Donald Trump

In the White House, Everyone Hates Trump and Trump Hates Everyone

In his new book, Bob Woodward reportedly reveals a "nervous breakdown" inside the White House, with an unhinged president at the center of the mess.

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President Donald Trump is a terrible boss, an idiot, and a "fucking liar."

At least that's the picture painted by by Bob Woodward, the Pulitzer Prize-winning chronicler of presidential administrations whose forthcoming book Fear details a complete "nervous breakdown" inside the White House. In excerpts published Tuesday by The Washington Post and CNN, the veteran political reporter describes various scenes of dysfunction and abuse, with the president seemingly hating nearly everyone working for him. Many of his top aides seem to share that sentiment.

One of the more explosive quotes in the Post's account of Woodward's book comes from White House chief of staff John Kelly, who is described as frequently losing his temper over Trump's "unhinged" behavior. "He's an idiot," Kelly said of Trump. "It's pointless to try to convince him of anything. He's gone off the rails. We're in Crazytown. I don't even know why any of us are here. This is the worst job I've ever had."

Trump makes an apparent habit of verbally abusing his senior staff. He described Reince Priebus, who served as chief of staff before Kelly, as "a little rat" scurrying around the White House; referred to former national security adviser H.R. McMaster as looking "like a beer salesman" in cheap suits; and described Attorney General Jeff Sessions as "mentally retarded" and "a dumb Southerner" unfit to be a county lawyer in Alabama, according to the book.

Trump's temper and abusive management style have been previously reported in numerous news stories and through books like the ones written by famed tabloid reporter Michael Wolff and former White House staffer Omarosa Manigault Newman. Previous explosive accounts of internal White House fights have often been contradicted by the president or his aides, and by subjects of the books. It remains to be seen whether Woodward's reporting will stand up to critique, but the excerpts published Tuesday seem to confirm and deepen the view that the current administration is adrift and disorganized, led by a president with neither the knowledge nor the management skills to navigate the complexities of the most powerful office in the world.

And the chaos inside the White House has an effect on policy.

In one scene, Woodward describes Defense Secretary James Mattis' frustration after leaving a meeting with the president about foreign policy on the Korean Peninsula. "Mattis was particularly exasperated and alarmed, telling close associates that the president acted like—and had the understanding of—'a fifth- or sixth-grader,'" Woodward writes, according to the Post.

In another section, top aides told Woodward that they conspired to remove documents from Trump's desk that, if signed by the president, would have removed the United States from a trade agreement with South Korea.

John Dowd, Trump's personal attorney who quit abruptly in March of this year, reportedly described the president as "a fucking liar," according to CNN. Dowd issued a statement Tuesday claiming he had been misquoted by Woodward and challenging Woodward's account of a January 2018 mock interview of the president by his legal team intended to determine whether Trump could be trusted to testify before special counsel Robert Mueller. According to Woodward, the interview did not go well. It ended with Dowd warning that Trump would end up "in an orange jumpsuit" if he went under oath.

Dowd says none of that happened. "There was no so-called 'practice session' or 're-enactment' of a mock interview at the Special Counsel's office," he said Tuesday. "Further, I did not refer to the President as a 'liar' and did not say that he was likely to end up in an 'orange jump suit.'"

But the fact that such denials are even necessary gives some indication of just how far beyond the pale things have gone. It's also noteworthy that the White House seemed blindsided by the allegations in the book. Hours after the Post and CNN published excerpts of Woodward's book, there has been no formal push-back or denial from the president or his staff. The bizarre silence suggests that even if Woodward's account is not fully accurate, this White House is too dysfunctional and disorganized to quickly rebut explosive, firsthand claims of incompetence on two of the country's biggest media platforms.

Woodward's account should be subject to scrutiny—he claims to have hundreds of hours of interviews, mostly conducted on "deep background," according to the Post—but his status as a revered and trusted journalist will make it harder for the White House (and, perhaps more important, Republican lawmakers, party officials, and voters) to dismiss the obvious: Trump is a bad boss and an incompetent chief executive.

It seems like we already knew those things, but each new piece of evidence renders alternative explanations that much less believable.

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  1. 6/10 would bang with enough drinks in me.

    1. Are you talking about the Trump chicken? You will have to fight SIV to the death for it. That’s the love of his life.

      1. “That’s no chicken. It’s a smartphone-holding baby.”

        -Albus Dumbledore

        1. So you would bang a baby if you were drunk?

          [crosses Telcontrar off ‘approved libertarian babysitters’ list]

          1. Measured in Giant Small-Hand Bear (Arctodus Carrotensis) years, it’s well over the age of consent.

  2. America needs a pill to calm the fuck down.

    1. The American media, generally, is making a bloody fortune pretending that a Republican politician who couldn’t even get Obamacare repealed is so powerfully dangerous we must watch out for the end of democracy.

      Pimping fear is big business. If your marks are dumb enough to be scared of Donald Trump, how could you not rob them at every opportunity?

      I like that Woodward is at least going with a fresh approach. But it’s still the same shit.

      1. I’m not sure what’s so fresh about what sounds like a sequel to Fire and Fury. Make some shit up, part some idiots from their money, and the world keeps spinning.

        1. Seems like an awful lot of trouble to keep trashing public service for decades and decades until the only people who go into it are psychpathic grifters, just to prove yourself right.

          1. Spoiler alert, Tony: it has always been psychopathic grifters.

            1. Same with CEOs.

              1. You are probably right.

              2. Not necessarily.

              3. Same with CEOs.

                What a profoundly banal observation Tony Clifton! If only I was in any way compelled to do business with a private enterprise.

            2. Yes but they are each psychopathic grifters in their own special way.

              1. Everything is beautiful!

  3. It seems like we already knew those things, but each new piece of evidence renders alternative explanations that much less believable.

    There’s definitely plenty of credibility crises to go around.

    1. Don’t know why this is a surprise. It’s what you should expect when a guy runs only for the ego and the attention rather than the job – and gets elected to the job.

      1. Then again, doesn’t that describe pretty much all his predecessors?

        1. Are to trying to say that writing two autobiographies before you accomplish a single damn thing is egotistical?

    2. But the fact that such denials are even necessary gives some indication…

      But the fact that such a person was even elected gives some indication that the media and party establishments have failed those they purport to serve and lost their credibility as a result.

  4. described Attorney General Jeff Sessions as “mentally retarded” and “a dumb Southerner” unfit to be a county lawyer in Alabama, according to the book.

    And?

    John Dowd, Trump’s personal attorney who quit abruptly in March of this year, reportedly described the president as “a fucking liar,” according to CNN.

    The first liar president. In our lifetimes, no less.

    1. We were fortunate that no President ever lied before this one.

      If you like your doctor…

    2. “According to CNN”.

      That’s the first problem with that statement. Is Lanny Davis the source for that gem too?

  5. But the fact that such denials are even necessary gives some indication of just how far beyond the pale things have gone.

    That’s a ridiculous statement. Something was said, and someone rebutted it. I don’t know if it’s true or not, but to say that this exchange indicates we’re beyond the pale is just exaggeration.

    Otherwise, interesting article. It’s a curious president we have here. And good or bad, I don’t think the country on average is learning any meaningful lessons from this administration.

    1. That’s a ridiculous statement. Something was said, and someone rebutted it. I don’t know if it’s true or not, but to say that this exchange indicates we’re beyond the pale is just exaggeration.

      Yeah, I couldn’t tell if he was dislocating his own shoulder with the reach or simply beyond the pale himself.

    2. Not just this, the entire paragraph fails at being journalism.

    3. Our children are certainly not getting reinforcement on their manners.

      1. I don’t know what day politicians stopped being role models for children, but it was a good day.

      2. You are living proof that didnt happen decades ago in your family.

      3. Tony. It amuses me to no end how often you provide your utter ignorance. Presidents have rarely been role models. Go look at the actual history. Scurrilous attacks abounded. The president’s job is not that of a role model, it is to run the country’s executive branch.

        1. He is terrible at that too.

    4. There was some Colbert interview from his early work on the Daily Show where he asked someone “If you’re so innocent, why won’t you admit that you’re not?”

      If even half of what’s been reported on out of Woodward’s book is actually true, it’s disturbing, but Boehm ties himself in circles in this article trying to have it both ways.

      1. How is it disturbing? It just shows how much more aides and workers in the WH are willing to talk. Every administration has rumors of out of control behavior, the Clinton’s being especially bad. Just now we have an establishment and a media who both hate the occupant, so more is told.

      2. Neither Woodward or Bernstein are credible individuals. Amd that’s the problem here. All these leftists have worked round the clock since November 9th 2016 to destroy Trump’s presidency. The truth means nothing to any of them.

        So now if there is actually some legitimate problem with Trump, these assholes have cried wolf so many times that it’s just white noise. Destroying themselves in the process.

    5. You know what’s beyond the pale? The whole world!

      1. No, it’s Scotland.

    6. Yeah, that’s a goofy statement. I have no problem believing that Trump is an unhinged idiot, but still that statement in the article is silly.

      I mean, I’ve heard that the author of this piece is a goat fucker. He says he’s not, but the fact that such a denial is even necessary gives some indication of how far beyond the pale things have gone for Eric.

      1. It may seem like a contradiction to people on the left, but I’m willing to believe Trump’s White House is a dysfunctional, poorly managed mess, and that Bob Woodward is still lying his ass off for the sake of sensationalism.

        1. Sad part was that Woodward seemed very fair in Price of Politics, even though the left disavowed it for daring to push some blame to Obama. But in this book Woodward admits on the phone call that he didn’t try hard to get a long sit down with trump like he did Obama. He asked 4 random people to ask trump and ignored the president’s secretary.

  6. Everyone hates Trump but everyone else was so scared of Hillary that they were prepared to bow down to her if she had won and even now the people still clear a path for the queen of mean.

  7. It seems like we already knew those things, but each new piece of evidence renders alternative explanations that much less believable.

    You say this like I don’t want a POTUS that’s verbally abusive to every member of his staff. The sooner *everyone* realizes that The White House isn’t intrinsically some hallowed hall of noble justice as portrayed on The West Wing or Madame Secretary, the better.

    Anybody remember Obama’s ‘Team of Rivals’? Neither do I.

    1. Pretty much all of that. This is the sort of shit only nerd reporters care about. If Trump tomorrow were to do something you really supported and was important to you, whatever that is, would you really give a shit that the moment after doing that he called his Chief of Staff a homo and screamed at the National Security Advisor? I honestly can’t see why you would. What mattes are the President’s performance and policies.

    2. I suppose it’s questionable if I reply ‘me too’?

    3. You say this like I don’t want a POTUS that’s verbally abusive to every member of his staff.

      I don’t want people to romanticize the White House like it’s some sort of Camelot, but why would I want *anyone’s* boss to be verbally abusive towards them? You can have a clear eyed view of government power without wanting it to be a cluster fuck.

      Having said that, if someone is going to publish a book like this, I’d like them to have some hard evidence to support the claims. That seems to be lacking. I have nothing against Bob Woodward because I really don’t know that much about Bob Woodward other than that he was involved in Watergate reporting, but if he actually wants to convince people, as opposed to just reinforcing existing opinions, he ought to come with evidence.

      1. Writing books based on unsourced innuendo is Bob Woodward’s entire career. He writes one of these books about every presidency. And it always makes a big slash for one news cycle and then is completely forgotten. This will be no different.

        1. Basically, Bob Woodward has done very little of note (other than writing gossipy books) since Watergate. He is basically a one hit wonder trying to recapture that one time magic.

          1. The Billy Ray Cyrus of journalism.

        2. Except this time Woodward didn’t try very hard to interview the actual president.

      2. I don’t want people to romanticize the White House like it’s some sort of Camelot, but why would I want *anyone’s* boss to be verbally abusive towards them?

        The assumption that no one deserves verbal abuse ever is obnoxiously optimistic and unrealistic. The idea that the White House hasn’t been concertedly romanticized like some sort of Camelot both from within and and outside is obnoxious and unrealistic. The fact that you think it won’t be (or isn’t currently or previously) a cluster fuck because we pretend it’s a Camelot is obnoxious and unrealistic.

  8. In an attempt to negate my white privilege I got a degree in male feminist transgender transexual transracial white privilege yoga studies.

    Here is my take:

    Woodward has east coast elite fancy pants, Skull & Bones secret handshake, white male privilege and became a swamp creature years ago. It’s all about maintaining the swamp privilege .

    Since Trump, unlike Bush and Clinton, does not reside in the swamp, the swamp must attack him.

    Think of Trump as the Rodney Dangerfield character in Caddyshack.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW-enbDAsAg

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhRCD6MQ0Ps

    1. “Think of Trump as the Rodney Dangerfield character in Caddyshack.”

      Trumpster-to-the-dumpster “gets no respect” ’cause he DESERVES no respect!!!

    2. Think of Trump as the Rodney Dangerfield character in Caddyshack.

      Fail. Back To School is clearly the superior reference.

      1. That Dangerfield really could disappear into a role.

      2. Either way, it’s the slobs versus the snobs.

    3. The difference is Rodney Dangerfield had the chops to pull it off. His characters are really him making fun of himself. It is a clown act. Give him a horn, funny hat and no lines and he was Harpo Marx in those movies.

      Trump has no sense of humor because comedy requires self deprecation and he can’t do that.

      1. What are you talking about, Trump has made self-deprecating jokes before. Like his joke about being at a benefit dinner for veterans and not wanting to touch some passed out bleeding guy because he was all “bloody and icky”, but then the veterans who’d been seated at the back of the ballroom came in and took care of it.
        That’s self-deprecation and uplifting someone else, making himself the butt of a joke (but also making a mockery of benefit dinners that push the people they’re ostensibly about off to the side).

        Also, if you’ve watched “the apprentice” he blew up at a guy for referring to himself as white-trash.

      2. The difference is Rodney Dangerfield had the chops to pull it off. His characters are really him making fun of himself. It is a clown act.

        It is remarkable to see someone so completely miss the point of Dangerfield’s humor as this.

        Donald J Trump is the only president to ever hold a belt in professional wrestling.

        Ruminate upon that

  9. The “mentally retarded dumb Southerner” should go over well with his base.

    But who are we kidding, they’ll start wearing “mentally retarded dumb Southerner for Trump” T-shirts by Friday.

    1. I thought you’d be cool with this, Tony.
      Nobody hates the poor, the proles, the dispossessed, the fly-over folks, the Southerners, the plebeians, the workers, etc. quite like you and Kirkland.

      1. There are a lot of rich people I don’t particularly care for too. They just have nicer bathrooms.

        1. They just have nicer bathrooms.

          You gotta have finance to have romance.

        2. You gotta wash your stank dick off somewhere nice.

        3. Take comfort in knowing the entire human race thinks you’re a malignant retard.

  10. Eh. I understand why people want anonymity but it seems counterproductive at least to publish a bunch of stuff like this that you can’t prove. People who want to believe it will, and people who don’t, won’t.

    1. but it seems counterproductive at least to publish a bunch of stuff like this that you can’t prove

      1. Weird cut off part of my comment.

        but it seems counterproductive at least to publish a bunch of stuff like this that you can’t prove

        Pretty sure everything in the book that Woodward could prove would fit in the first paragraph.
        Honesty isn’t the point, helping out the Tribe is. As long as the agitprop keeps the useful idiots frothing and fighting, it’s not counterproductive.

    2. People who want to believe it will, and people who don’t, won’t.

      It is confirmation bias all around. And even if it were true, what difference does it make?

      1. Assuming this stuff was actually true? The part where aides are actively stealing things off of Trump’s desk so that he can’t sign them, because they think it would be a huge disaster, seems like a pretty big deal no matter which side you support. Ditto with the president’s personal lawyer believing that he is incapable of testifying without perjuring himself, or Trump refusing to educate himself about how the government and military that he runs actually works.

        1. All of those things are only “big deals” insofar as they translate to policy. And I don’t see where they have at all. And Bill Clinton couldn’t testify without perjuring himself. I am not sure anyone can given the amorphous nature of perjury and how depraved US Attorneys are. Think about what his attorney is actually saying there. It only reflects poorly on Trump if you assume it is possible for anyone to be questioned by a US Attorney without committing “perjury”. And you know as well as I do, it is not.

          Moreover, the fact that it hasn’t translated into policy makes it very unlikely any of it is true.

          1. Disagree. If his aides are stealing letters off his desk that are relevant to trade policy, that’s a big deal since it is actively thwarting the democratic process. And it’s also a big deal if his closest aides and own advisers are that terrified of his policies.

            I’d like to believe I could talk to federal prosecutor without committing perjury. And just because we have way too many laws and a bunch of them shouldn’t even be laws in the first place doesn’t mean that *every* law is bad and that I should be comfortable with a President committing perjury. I was young during the whole Clinton thing but I knew enough to know that you shouldn’t lie under oath.

            Also, Trump has instituted lots of policy changes related to trade and international relations (which seem to be the focus of what we’re talking about), so I’d argue that there are real policy implications if some of this stuff is true.

            1. I’d like to believe I could talk to federal prosecutor without committing perjury.

              I am sure you could if you think not committing “perjury” is telling the truth. Sadly, not committing perjury is saying whatever it takes for the person who is interrogating you to conclude that you are not committing perjury. And those are two different things. If you think telling the truth to DOJ is enough, you are very naive indeed.

              Trump has done things you don’t like. Sure, But he campaigned on doing those things. So those policies are not the result of this.

              I am sorry but just because Trump doesn’t agree with you on trade doesn’t mean everything that is said about him is true. You know what else? None of the horror stories you are telling yourself are going to come true. The Libertarian view of trade isn’t the whole story and the facts on the ground are going to show that.

              1. I love how a thread that started with me basically saying “Woodward seems to be lacking actual evidence” and that evolved into “but what would the implications be if these things *were* true?” ends with ” just because Trump doesn’t agree with you on trade doesn’t mean everything that is said about him is true”

                Never change, John.

            2. “I am sure you could if you think not committing “perjury” is telling the truth. Sadly, not committing perjury is saying whatever it takes for the person who is interrogating you to conclude that you are not committing perjury. And those are two different things. If you think telling the truth to DOJ is enough, you are very naive indeed.”

              Agreed that the DOJ has lots of tricks up their sleeves, and getting people for perjury because they have “witnesses” that will testify otherwise in order to gain leverage is not beyond imagination; surely you could find some who were telling the truth and went down/flipped for perjury regardless. And that is a sad, but true statement.

              But if you think the reason Trump would go down for perjury is because he was just gosh-darn honest and the prosecutors only got him because they had it out for him…well I’ve got a bridge to sell you and some great stock opportunities. The guy can’t have a normal conversation without spitting out a bunch of “truthful hyperbole” with flat-out lies sprinkled in.

              1. No, I think Trump would get charged with perjury and Hillary didn’t because you go down at the whim of the prosecutor. And if Mother Theresa were to somehow come forth and be his character witness, she’d be charged with perjury too.

            3. I’d like to believe I could talk to federal prosecutor without committing perjury.

              Gotta be nice to believe.

              Know how Scooter Libby committed perjury? He remembered a conversation differently than Tim Russert did.

              Do we KNOW Russert was accurate? Nope. We don’t.

              But Libby committed perjury due to that.

              So, yeah, hope you aren’t committing perjury talking to a prosecutor who, you know, WANTS to nail you for perjury.

          2. The only way to answer questions under oath with a US Attorney is to hold your hands over your ears and repeat ” nanananana…….I can’t hear you, I can’t hear you!”

            The sole purpose for Mueller to question Trump is to manufacture a process crime. Period.

            1. I wouldn’t do that, if I were you. You’d go down the river for lying about not being able to hear him.

              1. That’s why you cover your ears and say “nanananana” real loud. I think he covered this.

          3. No, actually it is a big deal as in it’s a federal felony. The guy literally confessed to committing a felony in the pages of the New York Times.

            1. Yeah, but he won’t be charged, just like Hillary will never be charged.

      2. The difference will be in the author’s wallet. A lot of people will buy it just because they want to believe. Sounds like a nice gig.

  11. Still not tired of winning.

    #MAGA

  12. Given that Bernstein has been exposed as a lying whore, why should we care what Woodward thinks?

  13. Everyone Hates Trump and Trump Hates Everyone

    Ugh, can’t help but remind me…You know, we keep hearing this infantile nostalgia for a less undecorous age of past. But our memories are so selective, and their lenses so rose-colored. If it means leaving this behind, then I’ll take the present any fucking day of the week.

  14. Bob Woodward is making up quotes and scenarios out of thin air just for shits and giggles and Trump is actually a very calm, rational person with great leadership skills.

    1. I have not quite trusted Woodward since he turned those stadium lights into fireworks while bleeding from where the Bolivians shot him.

    2. Woodward (and Bernstein) got something really, really right once upon a time. Back when I was in high school and people thought bell-bottom jeans were a good look.

      Since then, they’ve kind of been coasting on that one something. Bernstein just got himself embarrassed just last week…?.

      1. Who’s talking about Bernstein?

        So Woodward’s entire book is lies? Or a certain percentage? You know this having not read it how?

    3. And you’re actually not a mouth-breathing human tumor.

    4. I don’t know about calm, but the fact that he’s a billionare who managed to get elected President while being out-spent 2-1 does kind of suggest he might have great leadership skills.

      That’s not incompatible with being a lying asshole, there are nice, and not nice, effective leadership styles.

  15. A recurrent theme in Woodward’s book is Trump’s seeming disregard for national security concerns because of his obsession with money ? trade deficits and the cost of troops overseas.

    He questioned the wisdom of keeping US troops in South Korea.

    I remember back when libertarians were non-interventionists.

    1. Or when Libertarians didn’t trust the FBI or the Intelligence community. Good times.

    2. Is someone claiming Woodward is a libertarian?

      1. What is the point of giving that example if the assumption by the author isn’t that pulling out of South Korea is bad? SIV is talking about the author here not Woodward. You really need to try and do a better job of understanding what is going on before you respond to posts.

    3. Yeah, that’s a baffling complaint here. I thought our troops stationed overseas was BAD, per Libertarian theology.

  16. “But the fact that such denials are even necessary gives some indication of just how far beyond the pale things have gone.”

    What? You use the quote in your first line, and he denies it which is somehow further proof how bad things are? Is Reason just a gossip rag now?

    1. The fact that Reason has to deny that the staff fucks sheep is just a further sign of how bad things really are.

      How the fuck can someone be dumb enough to write such illogic?

    2. When did you stop beating your wife?

      1. The correct response is “Stop? I just gettin’ started! And she’s totally into it, just like a good masochist!”

    3. Colonel Kurtz on the Potomac?

    4. He who pays the piper calls the tune.

      Libertarians don’t have the kind of money to throw around that anti-Trumpers do.

  17. hundreds of hours of interviews, mostly conducted on “deep background”

    Is Woodward going to call his new source “Deep Rectum,” appropriately for our changing society and mores?

    1. Tony is his source?

  18. But the fact that such denials are even necessary gives some indication of just how far beyond the pale things have gone.

    “I don’t care if he’s a pig fucker or not, just get him to deny it.”?Lyndon Johnson

    1. I am putting that on a bumper sticker.

  19. Sounds pretty much like any after-hours grousing around the bar by any CEO’s chief lieutenants after any meeting where all the prima donnas didn’t get their way.

  20. 4% growth, historic low unemployment, new trade deals, NK not shooting missiles if this is incompetence I’ll have a second helping please.

    1. I thought Trump was supposed to be getting rid of the swamp. Not proving that it can run the place for four years on autopilot.

      1. So, your theory is that “the swamp” running things “on autopilot” is why things are going better under Trump than they were under either Obama or Bush?

      2. If this is autopilot for Trump, a second helping plz.

        Trump has Lefties, Lefty media, RINOs, and bureaucrats attacking his every move. If he can handle all that easy japanesie, then he is the best president in over 100 years.

        1. I’d be willing to believe a lot of it is autopilot. Presidents have a lot more power to screw things up in the short run, than to improve them. Just refraining from tanking the economy is a major accomplishment.

    2. Sure those are great things but Trump did not create the conditions for economic growth. We did that and do it every day. He did sign the tax cut bill which is about the only time congress has done something right. That has been kicked around for years. Even Obama knew we needed to cut the corporate tax rate, he just couldn’t get it done.

      Since the economy is doing so well why is he taking risks by fucking around with it? Oh wait he told us. He said ” we are playing with the banks money”. It is your money and mine and he is playing with it. Think about that because it is how he sees the world.

      As for North Korea. Great that Trump didn’t push his enormous button. The North Koreans got exactly what they wanted. Welcome to the nuclear club and we are standing down.

      1. While I do agree with some of that, I can’t give Obama any credit for the tax cuts. He didn’t ever seem like that was a priority, and don’t think he ever intended to.

        Trump gets points for the tax cuts. They are good. I would like them to be a little better, and permanent; but they are good.

        The economy part always crack me up as if we were in a grave recession and trump snapped his fingers and BAM! HUGE ECONOMY!

        Anyone who can read a graph/chart or has common sense can see the economy WAS in a recession (a big one) under O, and as you said, we, america got out of it. And then under O we had long steady growth for years, and the stock market climbed since then. Trump walked in the door after our (not Obama’s) hard work and he continues to benefit from our (not O or Trumps) hard work.

      2. NK has been in the nuclear club since the Bush administration. You can hardly pin that on Trump.

  21. If “the current administration is adrift and disorganized, led by a president with neither the knowledge nor the management skills to navigate the complexities of the most powerful office in the world”, where are the negative effects?

    I mean, the economy is doing well by the numbers, crime is down from where it was at the end of the Obama administration (according to the Brennan Center), US deaths in wars are averaging less than 1 American/month, there have been no invasions of US allies by foreign powers . . .

    The budget deficit is big, sure. Um, what else?

    I didn’t vote for Trump and I don’t like Trump-the-person. But, really, where are the objective indicators, rather than complaining insiders, that indicate Trump can’t handle “the most powerful office in the world”?

  22. No one is going to take Trump seriously until he builds a nation. Apparently declining to get bogged down h. Syria isn’t presidential enough. We need to democratize Yemen.

    1. Democratizing California would be a good start.

  23. Is anybody actually taking a book about Trump from Bob “Everything is worse than Watergate!” Woodward seriously? Wait, of course Reason is…

    “It seems like we already knew those things, but each new piece of evidence renders alternative explanations that much less believable.”

    Or it’s probably the more likely explanation of confirmation bias, but challenging one’s worldview isn’t much fun.

    1. No kidding. Isn’t that the EXACT DEFINITION of confirmation bias?

    2. The Democrats have done far worse since Nixon had his goons break into DNC office.

      Hillary, the FBI, Obama (the president), the DOJ, and a british spy worked together to spy on a political candidate and try to make sure they won the election.

      How have we not isolated washington DC and razed it to start over? Obama, Hillary, FBI executives, DOJ executives, and Steele have not even been indicted.

    3. So how much of the book is lies, roughly?

      1. Calling it a ‘book’ is a lie, Tony.

        It’s a screed. A drool filled insane screed.

        1. Yes, it’s the book that is droolingly insane while Trump is a dignified font of truth.

          1. See, no one said this–

            “Trump is a dignified font of truth”

            No one. Trump says all kinds of crazy shit.

            That doesn’t mean that the book isn’t droolingly insane.

            The two are not mutually exclusive.

      2. “So how much of the book is lies, roughly?”

        I think the copyright and publisher information is legit. Not much else.

  24. What I like is how the media claims that, even though the Wolff, Omarosa, and Woodward books are each suspect on their own, the fact that all three present a similar picture means that it must be true. The possibility that they were all written in order to bolster the pre-existing beliefs of leftists is of course not considered.

    I wonder if Dinesh D’Souza, Hannity, and Ann Coulter all came out with books saying that the Mueller investigation is a witch hunt, they would acknowledge that it must be true because all three agreed.

    1. No no, you’re misunderstanding it. Salem Witch Hunt logic is a fallacy, unless you;re actually sincerely hunting witches, then it’s accurate and unimpeachable.

  25. Woodward’s account should be subject to scrutiny?he claims to have hundreds of hours of interviews, mostly conducted on “deep background,” according to the Post?but his status as a revered and trusted journalist will make it harder for the White House

    Exactly — which is why he is doing this. He knows he can say whatever he wants and get away with it because he did some good stuff 45 years ago.

    Sound familiar?

  26. Stop it. You’re killing me… The tear-streaked and foam splattered expressions of Republican and Democrat looters snapping and clawing at each other is to grownups what The Three Stooges were to kids–eye candy!

    1. Golly Hank, which LP planks were they desperate to steal from this time?

  27. Bob Woodward trying to regain his 15 minutes of fame.

    1. I do not think Bob Woodward is after fame nor fortune. He has all that.

      He and Trump are about the same age now. Two 70+ year old bulls.

      Woodward is his worst nightmare. He does not make mistakes. He knows the game inside. Trump does not.

      Donald is a very stable genius. He told us that verbatim and twitted it to the word. Easy target.

      Few people will read the book. The media whom Trump declared war on and enemy of the people will blast it out.

      “Never argue with a man who buys ink by the barrel”
      Mark Twain

      1. “Never argue with a man who buys ink by the barrel”
        Mark Twain

        Bob Woodward doesn’t buy ink by the barrel.

        Bob Woodward doesn’t buy ink at all.

        Bob Woodward uses ink others pay for.

        What others?

        People like Trump.

  28. This columnist has unwittingly demonstrated “derangement” perfectly. He says that.”..the fact that such denials are necessary shows how far beyond the pale things have gone”. Followed by, “the White House seems blindsided….has issued no denials”. Both silence and speaking are evidence of dysfunction, so we know where he’s coming from.

    1. “Heads you lose, tails necessarily shows how far beyond the pale things have gone.”

  29. Isn’t Bob Woodward dead?

    I swear we just had a 47 day long funeral for him.

    1. The Mandela Effect.

  30. OMG, peepul–anuther lefty writed anuther book skreemin’ about how awful Trump is!!!! OMG!!!!!!

    THIS is the one that will take him DOWN !!!!!11!!!!1!!

    What’s that word? That word that the orange horror uses when confronted with another outburst of TDS?

    Oh, yes–

    Sad.

  31. “But the fact that such denials are even necessary gives some indication of just how far beyond the pale things have gone. It’s also noteworthy that the White House seemed blindsided by the allegations in the book.”

    Gone…with respect to the media’s endless attempts to capitalize on manufactured controversy? After Bob’s buddy just goes down in flames, Bob follows Michael Wolff and Omarosa into ignominy. How broke and desperate are these people?

  32. “It seems like we already knew those things..”
    That’s why it’s called confirmation bias.

  33. It is always impressive how a man we are told is a complete imbecile has managed to defang ISIS nicely, turned the economy around, slashed regulations WHILE fighting the bureaucracy from the word go.

    Makes Obama look like a fucking incompetent shit since he had the government BEHIND him and couldn’t accomplish a fucking thing of worth.

    1. Trump has both houses of Congress and has managed to achieve a tax cut for corporations and rich people.

      I take it you think Obama failed to implement stricter regulations and such? Or was he basically a tyrant on that count?

      1. Obama decided to abuse his powers exponentially worse than anybody has since FDR. He also, again, murdered American citizens with no trial and no warrant,

  34. The article is about as useful as the book. Heavy stuff.

  35. Bob cements his place as one of America’s greatest writers of fiction.

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