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Cohen Hush Money to Trump's Lovers May Have Meddled More Than Any Russians: Reason Roundup

Plus: new paid parental-leave proposal pits libertarians against GOP

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All political hell broke loose Tuesday evening, as President Trump's former campaign manager, Paul Manafort, and former personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, were both convicted of fraud in federal court.

Cohen pleaded guilty to five counts of tax evasion, one count of lying to a financial institution, and—most importantly—two counts related to making illegal campaign contributions, telling the court that in 2016, he had paid Stormy Daniels and former Playboy model Karen McDougal to keep quiet about trysts with "a candidate" and this candidate later reimbursed Cohen. (See Cohen's plea agreement here.)

Some suggest the dirt buried by Cohen's hush money may have swung votes in the 2016 election—that the president romping about with sex workers while his wife was at home pregnant or caring for a newborn may have been the proverbial bridge too far for certain evangelical conservative voters. "The money spent to silence these women had a bigger impact than anything Russia spent on Facebook," suggests Federalist publisher Ben Domenech on Twitter.

"Even if the payment had been totally legal, it would've constituted a deliberate, immoral, classically politician-like effort to mislead voters about the choice before them," writes Conor Friedersdorf at The Atlantic.

"Trump's infidelities were obviously well-known but it's not crazy to think the particular egregiousness of this one might've moved a small % of voters," tweets journalist Michael Tracey.

Even Cohen's lawyer is now calling for Trump's head:

But a few folks have been challenging the dominant Cohen narrative from a non-#MAGA position, suggesting that as much as some may want the Cohen plea to mean Trump and his team are uniquely guilty, it doesn't.

"It's impossible to do high-level politics or business w/o committing technical criminal violations," tweets Clark Niely, vice president at the Cato Institute, in response to Friedersdorf's article. "Upon reaching a certain level in those circles, you get a tacit free pass to commit a fairly broad range of non-violent crimes." And "that free pass is revocable but rarely revoked—because mutually assured destruction." Read Niely's whole thread here. "FWIW, I'm utterly underwhelmed by the Cohen [charges]," he concludes.

Indeed, I assume DOJ could get nearly every high-ranking campaign official/fixer to cop a plea similar to Cohen's—ticky-tacky campaign finance violations, seriously? ALL campaigns commit them. Every. Single. One.

It's possible, however, that we're just getting started on the Cohen admissions…

Staff at the National Enquirer are also coming under federal fire for their role in suppressing the sex stories, notes Justin Miller at The Daily Beast.

Here's what Trump, ever the grownup, had to say:

Meanwhile, a jury convicted Manafort of eight counts of tax evasion and bank fraud. Unlike with Cohen, Manafort's legal woes are independent of his work for Donald Trump and his campaign. This allowed Trump and his cheerleaders to focus on Manafort when asked questions yesterday, and it may work to their advantage in spinning all of this as things that don't implicate Trump.

Of course, Trump had every reason to know damn well that Manafort was a snake when he took him in, to borrow one of the president's favorite parables. When Manfort offered to do pro bono work for the Trump campaign, Manfort's sketchy dealings were already very well-known. (I remember talking to a senior person on the Trump campaign who was furious when Manafort was brought onboad. When I asked what made Manafort bad, he didn't know where to begin.)

As Scott Shackford wrote here last night:

Manafort is one of many, many folks with troubled backgrounds and histories of bad behavior who have worked with Trump and influenced his policy leanings….Those of us who care little about the highly politicized fight over "collusion," or who take a dim view of the absurd idea that Russian social media buys made people vote for Trump, should still recognize that Manafort representats a much more dangerous problem: Trump's terrible judgement….No amount of "Deep State" conspiracy complaints and screams of "Witch Hunt" can erase the reality that the former head of his campaign was financially beholden to a foreign power.

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A new fight over paid parental leave is heating up, this time pitting libertarians and Republicans against each other. On the latter side, Marco Rubio and others are proposing a tweak to Social Security that would let people use some of their alleged future benefits upon the birth or adoption of a child. They have been framing this an alternative to more invasive proposals seeking to mandate paid leave for new parents—which, yes, obviously.

But that doesn't necessarily make it a fiscally prudent policy, folks like Cato Institute analyst Vanessa Brown Calder and Mercatus Center economist Veronique de Rugy have been warning. Yesterday, the Wall Street Journal editorial board also weighed in against Rubio and co.'s proposal. "Republicans should consider the consequences before signing up for a major expansion of the entitlement state," the Journal said. More here.

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  • Republican Rep. Duncan Hunter (Calif.) and his wife were indicted yesterday for allegedly using campaign money for personal expenses, including dental work, video games, tequila shots, and travel.

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  1. Were Trump’s mistresses at least partially Russian?

    1. If Trump bans ancestry.com next, we’ll have our answer

    2. Russian to get paid.

    3. Hello.

      Lost in all this is Asia’s father is Dario Argento.

    4. And did they enjoy micturating in front of the president?

      1. “Every time a candidate with a bad rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the hooker?”

  2. A federal air marshall got hauled off a plane after a flight attendant mistook him for a scary gun-toting passenger.

    Awk-ward.

    1. Funny as hell.
      Sow, reap.

    2. Whats next, pilots joking about ‘bombs’ and being escorted off the flight?

      1. in mid-air.

  3. New Jersey is poised to legalize recreational marijuana next month.

    I can’t wait to see the corruption they manage out of this endeavor.

  4. Actress Asia Argento denies allegations…

    First rule of Cougar Club…

    1. I guess we do not need to believe accusers any longer.

      1. Well ones with no physical evidence anyway.

        Lewinsky had that dress with stains or she would have never been believed.

        1. And on that note, TMZ has pics of the couple in a naked post-coital embrace. I’d say that they are authentic because the kid has that self-satisfied “dude, I just scored!” Look on his face.

          What is amazing is that Argento didn’t think this would ever come out.

      2. The only thing about the kid’s story that I don’t believe is that he wasn’t a willing participant.

        When I was 17 if a hot 30-something Hollywood actress had pulled my pants down and started going to town on me I don’t think I would have said no. Nor would have 90% of other 17 year-olds.

        That said, it was statutory rape and as such the kid has the legal right to change his mind about the event because he could not give consent in the first place.

        1. Buyer’s remorse, most likely.

        2. Sounds like the vast majority of Weinstein’s “victims”, no? They had no problem sucking his cock if he got them jobs, no?

        3. Actually, it is incest level creepy.

          She had worked with him in a movie when he was 7, and had been a part of his life since then.

          10 years of “grooming” a child.

          At 17, of course you want random Hollywood actresses to blow you. But probably not your surrogate mother figure for the last 10 years.

  5. “The Hunters spent substantially more than they earned,” the indictment said. “They overdrew their bank account more than 1,100 times in a 7-year period resulting in approximately $37,761 in ‘overdraft’ and ‘insufficient funds’ bank fees.”

    Another “fiscally responsible” Republican.

    Trumpism is here and has infected the entire GOP.

  6. Paul Manafort, and former personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, were both convicted of fraud in federal court.

    Oh great, another 200+ comment edition of the left vs right “Authoritarian Wars” coming right up.

    1. I doubt it. The idea that Trump paying off his mistresses before he was President is going to change anyone’s vote is so stupid even the leftist trolls can only half-heartedly cut and paste their talking points.

      1. Everyone involved has had a full night to dream up new talking points. Number 11 will shock you!

        1. Where do I click to see it?

          1. Just below here. Basically… anywhere.

            1. Looks pretty slow.

              Reason will send in intern socks to liven things up.

              1. My prediction lacked the foresight that Hihn is back in his rubber room and doesn’t get rec time until later this evening.

                1. So did Hihn really get banned such that he is now posting under a set of absurdly obvious sock puppets?

                  1. So did Hihn really get banned such that he is now posting under a set of absurdly obvious sock puppets?

                    Yes. If you go back to old articles, you can see in the comments where there are holes where its shitposts used to be.

                    But sadly, the programmer appears to have signed up for a new account (or five) and attached the robot to them, so it’s shitting up the comments again.

                    1. So now Reason is censoring people? That’s un-American, and now we can sue them for any libel from posters?

                    2. Deleting machine generated spam is only “censorship” in the most broad of terms. It’s really more like covering up graffiti than anything.

      2. Fat Nixon has it coming because he is a scumbag.

        1. And just like Nixon he will be re-elected. Unlike Nixon he will finish out his term.

          Your misery and anger are so lovely. Please never deprive us of your miserable ignorant life.

        2. Hey Weigel. How goes it with the problem acne?

          1. It is zitiful.

      3. Why do they keep saying ‘former campaign manager’? Sure, it’s true but his shenanigans precede that role. It creates the false impression Manafort did these things mostly under Trump. If you want to argue Trump has bad judgment (as noted) then focus on that.

        File under: Games editors/journalists play.

        1. Why do they keep saying ‘former campaign manager’?

          Because saying “former sixth-grader” would sound silly?

        2. Gotta keep the narrative going.

          Election 2018 is coming up and they haven’t impeached Trump…yet.

        3. Actually, the exact opposite appellation, “future campaign manager” would be more accurate.

      4. The idea that Trump paying off his mistresses before he was President is going to change anyone’s vote

        That’s not even the idea. The idea is that knowledge of the affairs would change someone’s vote.

        1. Yes, him having affairs was quite unknown.

        2. Yeah, I am totally shocked to learn that Trump fucked porn stars and models. The country thought he was just a simple country real estate developer when they elected him.

          It doesn’t change shit.

          1. Whether it actually changes anything is a separate question.

            1. And the only question that matters.

            2. A rhetorical question?

        3. “The idea is that knowledge of the affairs would change someone’s vote.”

          And Trump didn’t want that news to get out. Is that the shocking news for today?

        4. Cathy, does it require tiny hands to grasp such minuscule straws?

          1. You used that one already. D-

  7. On the latter side, Marco Rubio and others are proposing a tweak to Social Security that would let people use some of their alleged future benefits upon the birth or adoption of a child.

    Is this like a reverse mortgage?

    1. And you get to keep the kid!

    2. It really doesn’t go far enough. I think we need a law that mandates not only 6 months of paid leave for anyone who has a kid, but their employer should be required to give them an additional 6 months pay, lump sum, up front, to help deal with the costs of the new child.

      After all, children are our future. And those fatcat business execs can all afford to take the minor pay cut they’d need to support this policy. Any business that can’t afford every burden I feel like placing on it shouldn’t even be in business anyway.

      1. OBL, eat your heart out. This is how it’s done.

        1. Indeed, that deserves a *golfclap*

    3. This social security, Obamacare, Medicare, and Medicaid is not going to pay for itself.

      We need babies and corporations need to do their share.

    4. This is a stupid issue to be dividing other Republicans from libertarians, whom I suspect to be merely oppositional & wanting to seem different. The Cato analyst’s only good argument against it is that by spreading the benefits of SocSec to more demographics, it will increase the pool of voters interested in keeping up the Ponzi scheme. That analysis is wrong, because the more the benefits are strewn around, the less concentrated they are, & therefore the lower stake any of the beneficiaries have in it. Old people are the most reliable voters, & reducing their retirement benefit (because they’ve already taken some out for family care) will reduce their attachment to SocSec as a voting priority.

      If gov’t’s taking people’s $, why shouldn’t they at least have more choice in accessing their reimbursement? It’s the same logic as favors public school choice & vouchers as long as schools are tax supported. Same logic as food stamps instead of some gov’t-chosen foods to be distributed. It’s not as good as the freedom you’d have by keeping the $, but at least it’s less a reduction in liberty as if the benefits were more narrowly constrained.

  8. Republican Rep. Duncan Hunter (Calif.) and his wife were indicted yesterday for allegedly using campaign money for personal expenses, including dental work, video games, tequila shots, and travel.

    Hopefully he at least got his dental hygienist’s vote out of it.

    1. You can’t trust a politician whose gums bleed when you floss for him.

  9. Some of the creepy porn lawyer’s prognostications have now proven to be true, including his prediction that Michael Cohen would fold.

    1. That wasn’t a tough prediction to make.
      What are ‘some’ of the others?

      1. That Cohen would be charged and that he would plead guilty.

        1. Does that fall under “folding”?

          1. You could argue that pleading guilty falls under folding, but not being charged.

            Listen, I think Tucker Carlson’s appellation “creepy porn lawyer” is LOL funny, but, Avenatti was making these predictions before Cohen’s office, apartment and hotel rooms were raided.

            1. Either the ‘creepy porn lawyer’ is really good at guessing, or somehow has information that is inexplicable given his position. I sort of want to go with ‘really good at guessing’, but I guess it’s also possible that someone in the FBI or other bureau is feeding him information for some reason.

    1. “But, but, but, they are private entities doing this for a foreign government, not the US one, so STFU”

    2. Facebook is rating the trustworthiness of its users on a scale from zero to 1

      Life is basically becoming an episode of Broken Mirror.

    3. Hmm, seems like my trustworthiness score on Facebook oughta be NaN considering there is zero data related to my trustworthiness in my Facebook posts and viewing habit

      I’m sure their Big Data algoeithm will come up with a number, though ? what could possibly go wrong?

  10. The year is 2067. A gray-haired old woman gathers ’round her grandkids for story time, cackling and slapping her knee as she nears the end

    Why 2067? And how can a woman gather around *anything* other than, say, a slice of pizza?

    1. Just think of how gross looking Stormy Daniels will be in 2067?

      1. *** skips lunch ***

      2. Yeah, the original quote didn’t mention she was slapping her knee with the tit that’s hanging down to it.

        1. Depends… what’s the half life on silicon? They may just radiate away by then.

          1. I’m pretty sure silicone has the same sort of biodegradability as other plastics. They’ll probably still be around after even the cockroaches are extinct.

      3. She’s already gross looking. Blech.

  11. I kept telling you Drumpf’s presidency would not survive all these scandals! After yesterday there’s no way he won’t be kicked out of office before his term is up!

    #Resist
    #Impeach
    #NotMyPresident
    #StillWithHer

    1. #StillWithHim
      #InternsToo
      $ChildrenToo

    2. Looking forward to President Pence that much? Me too. He seems like a hella stable guy, and very keen on fetus rights, too!

    1. Good thing it’s “legal”, huh?

    2. Yes, but unfortunately or fortunately, depending on your perspective, H&R commenters have no power.

  12. Even if the payment had been totally legal, it would’ve constituted a deliberate, immoral, classically politician-like effort to mislead voters about the choice before them…

    The worst charge yet, that Trump is the same as the rest of them.

    1. Breaking News: Politician doesn’t want electorate to know his true character.

    2. “The worst charge yet, that Trump is the same as the rest of them.”

      Trump – all the shallowness, lack of ethics, and self-aggrandizement of the average politician with none of the slickness.

    3. So one’s sex life is not a private matter bearing no relevance on how a politician does his job? Or are we going to have to wait for a Democrat to be president before that is the principle right thinking people go by again?

      1. Bingo!

  13. Donald J. Trump and the creepy porn lawyer agree on one thing: Michael Cohen sucks.

    1. creepy porn lawyer

      Nice band name.

      1. It sucks 🙂

  14. No amount of “Deep State” conspiracy complaints and screams of “Witch Hunt” can erase the reality that the former head of his campaign was financially beholden to a foreign power.

    Cool story, bro. Now do the Clintons.

    1. I guess it is a good thing Trump fired him.

    2. Its was fun yesterday and today to see the propaganda arm of the Democratic Party connect dots and squares in their attempt to get Trump.

    3. What About Ism isn’t just a fanfic sequel to the Bill Murray classic sitting in a drawer in my basement.

      1. Bill Murray died in Zombieland. No more Bill.

        hhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhh….a….hhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhh.

        1. He had no regrets other than making Garfield.

      2. One of the reasons Trump has made it this far has been the glaring hypocrisy of his critics on the Left and in the Media.

        Hillary Clinton was arguably the most corrupt major party candidate for president in US history, but the Establishment treated her as if she were Margaret Thatcher.

        People saw through the bullshit and voted for the loudmouthed huckster who at least pretended to truly care about their concerns.

        1. Obama had to give back millions of dollars in foreign donations after the 2012 election, yet we are all supposed to think the 2016 election was invalid because of a few Russian trolls on Facebook. The whole thing is almost surreal in its hypocrisy and arrogance.

          1. As far as I can tell, that never actually happened. That’s the difference.

            The biggest foreign donation I could find was a man who took $80k from an Albanian politician and gave it to a party fundraising committee. The committee did not know the source of the funds.

            At no point did anyone ever accuse Obama of directing a scheme to violate the law. Now, we have someone swearing under penalty of perjury that Trump did.

            1. Obama’s campaign was fined $375.00 for reporting violations with no jail time.

              this actually happens all the time to many politicians because the laws are designed to trick people not help them

          2. I was waiting for someone to point that out. also its never been illegal to have non-disclosure agreements, even with porn stars. If the money didn’t come out of campaign finances and still considered campaign monies even if its his own money? then the congressional office thats been paying off people on behalf of congressmen would also be a campaign payout.

            1. Except that Cohen just told that the payoffs were discussed at campaign meetings with him in attendance. So, the prosecutors got the campaign tie-in they needed.

          3. ” The whole thing is almost surreal in its hypocrisy and arrogance.”

            The Big Lie

            All of the Left’s complaints are absurd
            That they take on the force of law, even in a Republican administration, shows that the rule of law is about dead

            If the ocean of crime of the Obama administration is not punished in the Trump administration, pick your preferred dictator and vote for him. Self government and rule of law will have been shown to be dead as a doornail.

  15. Why is the Department of Housing and Urban Development going after Facebook?

    the new version of why does member of department x carry a gun

  16. http://pjmedia.com/news-and-po…..ming-city/

    Austin residents oppose renaming the city

    1. I dunno. I still think “Shame, TX” has a nice ring to it.

    2. No shit, people who live in Austin might be ‘woke’ but they don’t really give a shit what Austin the individual might have done. They might be rabid liberals, but they love their city. It’s almost a state of being rather than a place.

  17. 1. Doesn’t expand government

    ahem: lol

  18. Anyone want to see Kathy Griffin celebrating topless?

    1. *** hesitantly ***

      You know, Johnny — that question can be read in more than one way.

      1. I’m pantsless, not topless.

    2. Johnny. My ability to get an erection is very important to me. Don’t fuck around.

      1. So what you’re saying is that you’re not interested in Her Hillaryness’s most recent trip to Ibiza?

        1. I’m warning you, Alice. One more word… one more… To the moon!

  19. Conservative New York Times columnist Bret Stephens said Tuesday that President Trump should resign or be impeached.

    Stephens made the comment in a tweet after longtime Trump lawyer Michael Cohen pleaded guilty to eight federal charges, possibly implicating Trump in the process.

    “I’ve been skeptical about the wisdom and merit of impeachment,” Stephens tweeted. “Cohen’s guilty plea changes that. The president is clearly guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors. He should resign his office or be impeached and removed from office.”

    The Hill

    1. I am sure all 12 people who care about Stephens’ opinion are really concerned. LOL

      1. “Conservative New York Times columnist”

        Yeah, right. That’s like calling Bloomberg a Republican and mean it.

        1. Shut up, you Nazi sympathizer alt-right shit-for-brains.

          1. You seem even more angry and irrational than usual.

            1. Lefties have had a rough 1.5 years.

              Now Mueller’s witch hunt is winding down into nothing.

              Buttplugger is mad that more and more Reasonites are ignoring him, so he goes straight for insults today.

            2. He’s just upset that all these investigations are turning up nothing but nothing burgers

              1. Yeah, I think even Shreek is sentient enough to see that.

          2. Oh come now. He’s not actually a Nazi sympathizer, and I doubt he’s even actually “alt-right”.

        2. My understanding was that, in the context of NYT, ‘conservative’ meant ‘Stalinist’.

        3. His picture is in the dictionary for “controlled opposition”

    2. Is he a token conservative like that clown Brooks?

      1. He just woke up (with his head in a cone, wondering where his balls went).

    3. Please list the high crimes and misdemeanors.

      Is one of them that he tried to win the election, or even, god forbid, tried to influence peoples’ thinking?

      1. One crime is that Trump refuses to listen to the media and do what they say.

      2. He prevent the Queen and savior from taking office.

        1. It. Was. HER. Turn!!!

    4. NOBODY is more conservative than Stephens. Just as nobody is more Libertarian than Wiegel.

    5. So impeach him. I don’t care. Shit, I think every politician in that shit town should be expelled toot sweet. What are you plonkers waiting for?

    6. Never Trumpers gonna Never Trump

  20. “The money spent to silence these women had a bigger impact than anything Russia spent on Facebook,” suggests Federalist publisher Ben Domenech on Twitter.

    and if i step one foot closer to the edge of a cruise ship, i’ve increased the likelihood it will tip over.

    1. Says a lot about how little the Russians influenced the election..

      Is Trump not permitted to impact the election he is running in? I’ve never heard this election philosophy.

      1. Dont ya know, Lefties can use whatever methods they want to win.

        Non-Lefties have to get their methods okayed by the media and deep state Corruptocons.

        1. Too many double standards to count.

    2. Was it a bigger impact than actually campaigning in the swing states in the Midwest?

    3. Of course spending money to silence a bunch of women (which they happily accepted, it seems, so it’s not a one-sided agreement) helped ‘influence’ the election. That’s obvious to anyone with a brain.

      The part that apparently isn’t obvious is that politics is entirely about influencing opinion and this particular way of influcing opinion is completely and absolutely legal, assuming no campaign funds were used. And there is no evidence that we’re aware of that they were, and it doesn’t even make sense that Trump would do so knowingly given that he is already rich as fuck. It would be insane if he did, or if Cohen did and was repaid out of Trump’s private funds.

      No one believes that anyone on the left actually cares about paying off women he slept with. Clinton is still a hero to them. What they are hoping is that a sex scandal is still effective at derailing Republicans. I’m not so sure the electorate today really cares as much about that, but we’ll see. After years of being beaten about the head and neck by progressives, it would be irrational for conservatives to care as much about sex scandals when they’re getting what they want politically.

      Of course, voters are mostly irrational so…

  21. 6 reasons to support our #PaidFamilyLeave bill:

    1 reason to not support PaidFamilyLeaveBill
    Government needs to stop forcing companies to pay for stuff.

    I knew Rubio was a RINO.

    Trump was the right candidate. MAGA!

    1. 1 reason to not support the plan: Something that’s not even in the plan.

      Got it.

      1. The extra 12 weeks that companies will be without their employees, even if it has no actual cash cost, still has an opportunity cost for the business.

        Shit. Matching wits with LC1789 and losing. That’s… that’s hard to do.

  22. Even Cohen’s lawyer is now calling for Trump’s head:

    who better to deliver a non-biased take

    1. Lanny Davis – how deep into the Swamp did he have to dive to find that old Clinton creature?

      1. He didn’t choose him at random, that’s for sure. I suspect this is a planned move on the part of the Hillary 2020 campaign.

        1. So Hillary tried to influence election 2016 with a British spy who cooperated with the Russians and she planted a friendly lawyer in Trump’s inner circle?

          I got $10 bucks the FBI doesnt do shit about it.

          1. Other than giving those players immunity?

  23. A federal air marshal on a United Airlines flight was handcuffed by authorities and removed from the plane after a flight attendant thought he was a civilian who “flashed a gun,” according to reports.

    If that marshal is Black, the attendant should be prosecuted for a HATE CRIME!

    1. At no time during this debacle did the marshal say “OBTW, I’m the air marshall” and the “authorities” didn’t say, “hmm, lets check”?

      1. *let’s

      2. WHAT?! And blow his cover?!

      3. Well, for one thing if the air marshal has his gun where people can see it even inadvertently he should be fired given that any yahoo on the plane could identify who and what he is and then they know exactly where to get a gun while on the flight.

  24. Anyone else wondering why ‘Antifa’ is leaving the Catholic hierarchy alone despite all the allegations in PA? Its almost like they want to beat up isolated randos for intimidation value but don’t want to mess with an organization with the means and willingness to defend itself.

    And no, I’m not calling for violence, just noticing who the left is physically assaulting.

    1. Wouldn’t they turn the other cheek?

    2. I’m not really wondering. I pegged Pantifa as a bunch of cowards all along.

    3. Systemic child abuse is irrelevant to Antifa unless it is something it can use to advance it’s agenda. Also, as you said, they’d be drastically outnumbered and that wouldn’t be fair…

  25. Anyone else wondering why ‘Antifa’ is leaving the Catholic hierarchy alone despite all the allegations in PA? Its almost like they want to beat up isolated randos for intimidation value but don’t want to mess with an organization with the means and willingness to defend itself.

    And no, I’m not calling for violence, just noticing who the left is physically assaulting.

    1. I’ve wondered it at least twice now.

  26. Trump is once again threatening to impose massive tariffs on all auto imports from the European Union.

    get at the root cause, trump. flip the “import from EU service” start option to manual, my man.

  27. http://www.americanthinker.com…..egins.html

    As Brazilian troops move toward the Venezuelan border to sort that hell out, and Argentina of all places takes Venezuela to the World Court for crimes against humanity, and the U.S. sends out the USNS Comfort to aid thousands of Venezuela’s starving, sick refugees desperately huddled in Colombia, there’s obviously a whirlwind coming that that socialist regime is overdue to reap.

    Economically, they’ve just committed suicide, with dictator Nicol?s Maduro’s socialist solution for the country’s economic meltdown a simple matter of lopping five zeros off the virtually worthless currency, as if that will fix the five-digit-going-on-a-million-percent inflation, devaluing it 95%, pegging it to a made up crypto-currency that’s even skeezier than bitcoin, known as the “petro,” and raising the minimum wage 6,000%, a move that will shut down pretty much every private business left in Venezuela, given that businesses cannot raise prices.

    We are looking at complete mayhem. Even the Castro dynasty in Cuba, which rules through collective economic ruin, hasn’t achieved anything on the scale of this lunacy.

    This ought to hang around the Western Left’s neck like an anvil. Sadly it won’t. It will be different next time!!

    1. As a direct result, Reuters reports that the Mother of All Human Waves is about to break, with would-be refugees leaving that hellhole even earlier than planned. Already a new report holds that 4 million out of the country’s 30 million have fled, most of them in the past year, and rapidly becoming a refugee crisis even bigger than Syria’s.

      In the meantime, ordinary Venezuelans have enacted something classical rabid lefties have dreamed about for years, ironically against one of their beloved socialist regimes: an actual general strike.

      Don’t those people understand that slaves to the state cannot strike?

    2. What happens when the left takes Mexico down this route?

      1. We have to deploy the army to the border to stop the flood of refugees.

      2. Mexico becomes four new US States?

        New New Mexico.
        Old Mexico.
        Old California.
        Central America Border Wall Zone.

      3. Hopefully there’s some sort of physical defensive barrier in place. Some kind of wall, perhaps.

        1. I think I’ve seen this in a World War Z …

          1. Running zombies are stupid.

            If the zombies are that coordinated, why not just drive a car?

            I never understood why Hollywood thinks a horde of zombies coming for you is not terrifying. You cant run forever.

    3. Castro had USSR backing him up for many years. Which super power backs Venezuela? { Stupid Hollywood creatures don’t count.}

    4. …and the U.S. sends out the USNS Comfort to aid thousands of Venezuela’s starving, sick refugees desperately huddled in Colombia.

      The media has not been giving Trump credit for sending a US vessel to help people dying because of Socialism? Shocked!

  28. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018…..s-say.html

    Maybe reason can do a piece on the horrors of deporting this guy. He was just a dreamer.

    1. Shikha would simply say that the outrage is based on his skin color, while Gillespie would talk about how they called his ancestors criminals, too.

    2. He was NOT a murderer rapist bad guy.

    3. I would like to ask everyone to take a moment and recognize the spark of divinity in this not-animal.

      1. Maybe this is why open border people dont want to be responsible for sponsoring and housing immigrants until they become citizens.

    4. LOL I saw some comments by Lefties on another blog that actually said “hey, the timing of this is suspicious! Right when the news about Cohen and Manafort came out!”

      Because, you know, everything that happens in the world is about that Lefty wet dream of Trump being thrown out of office.

      1. Did you see the Lefties comments begging Trump not to pardon Cohen and Manafort?

        Lefties just hate the Constitution and its enumerated powers, with all their being.

        1. A seasoned politician would wait until their last days to give Cohen and Manafort a pardon or commute their sentence.

          We’ll see what Trump does.

          When did Clinton give his Marc Rich a pardon? Oh wait, it was right after Rich’s wife donated $450,000 to the Clinton Library.

  29. Let’s take a moment and remember when John said Obama was pissing on this country because he skipped Scalia’s funeral — those were the days.

    1. He was. Obama trolled the right just like Trump trolls the left. Obama was the master of doing shit like that that he knew would piss off the right but ultimately wouldn’t make a difference. Trump is similar in that regard.

      Do you not like someone doing it to you? What is your point here other than you are too stupid to have one?

      1. What is my point? I thought it was pretty obvious.

        Calling me stupid doesn’t change the fact that you thought Republicans were using Trump as a joke candidate to divert criticism away from real candidates. I sometimes like pulling up old articles and seeing your opinion of things change on the wind (or who’s in power).

        You are the gift that keeps on giving, so I thank you for that. Watching you do mental gymnastics on a daily basis is so entertaining. It’s so interesting to think that we thought so similarly (or so I thought) for so many years but what a wake up call.

        1. I think a lot of people were surprised at how great Trump is doing as president.

          I didnt think he was a joke candidate but quickly saw how RINO Rubio and Bush were. Rand was always my choice for Republican. I wished the LP had a better candidate than GayJay but voted for him to up the Libertarian numbers.

          If or one didnt realize that Trump had it in him to fight the Lefties like he has.

        2. Calling me stupid doesn’t change the fact that you thought Republicans were using Trump as a joke candidate to divert criticism away from real candidates.

          I never thought that at all. And I defy you to ever come up with a place where I said I did. I always considered Trump a serious candidate and was pretty far ahead of the curve both taking him seriously and supporting him.

          I sometimes like pulling up old articles and seeing your opinion of things change on the wind (or who’s in power).

          Then do so and provide some links to what you are talking about instead of talking out of your ass.

          It’s so interesting to think that we thought so similarly (or so I thought) for so many years but what a wake up call.

          That is just not true.

          1. And I defy you to ever come up with a place where I said I did.

            Thanks so much for asking this. Here’s you on 7/13/2015 literally calling Trump a clown.

            I hope you are right but I doubt it. Trump is nothing but another Perot only with immigration rather than the deficit as his issue. Perot was a clown too. A bigger one than Trump in many ways. And he still got 19% of the vote.

            Thanks for playing.

            1. Yes, In July of 2015, I figured Trump was running as a third party to screw things up. I was wrong and changed my opinion. I changed my opinion fairly early. \

              So what is your point? The facts showed my opinion to be wrong, so I changed it. Isn’t that what you are supposed to do? I don’t really see how your still believing the same erroneous opinion in the face of three years of evidence to the contrary is a point in your favor.

              1. I don’t understand. So now you are agreeing with me that you said those things? At first you “defied me to find a place where you said it.” Feel free to keep moving goal posts, that’s fine.

                Good on you for changing your opinion. I’m glad we can both agree that you did in fact say stuff about Trump but changed your mind.

                1. I don’t understand. So now you are agreeing with me that you said those things? At first you “defied me to find a place where you said it.”

                  Sure. I never remember thinking that but apparently, I did. But so what? I was wrong. Note the date on that, 2015. I changed my mind long before it was popular or anyone thought Trump had a chance of winning. You seem incapable of doing that and somehow think that speaks in your favor.

                  1. I don’t have a side here, so there’s nothing that speaks in my favor. Except that it’s hilarious and shows that you think paying off bitches you had affairs with is somehow less terrible than skipping a funeral.

                    1. Paying off bitches is meaningless.

                      Skipping a funeral for a fellow high ranking bureaucrat can be considered disrespectful among those who care about what bureaucrats think. If people skip Obama’s funeral, the media will go on about it for weeks.

                    2. I should clarify- paying off bitches is meaningless for Libertarians.

                      Republicans used to care until Clinton precedent decided that issue.

                      Lefties want to catch Republicans in little moral quandaries, to undermine them.

                    3. Yes I do. This is espcially true when the actions occur while you are President. get back to me when Trump does something as president.

                    4. Why are you so confrontational? I guess Reason.com brings it out in you.

                  2. You fell for it John. He went back to 2015 and found your comment and and stuffed it into a perjury trap.

                    1. If John was a democrat he could just say he “misspoke” and the controversy would go away.

    2. That’s a strange thing to say.

      Obama didn’t need to show up to piss on the country.

      He did that all the time.

      In fact, if I were endowed with any kind of talent (or intelligence for that matter), I would sculpt him peeing on a USA map.

    3. Obama purposely pissed on Whitey House and Amerika all the time. He hates America and Americans.

      Obama is a chump though as Trump pen and cell phone is YUGER.

      1. It’s funny, my Mom told me the other day that Obama “literally came from nowhere.” I told her that Obama has SO MUCH to criticize in his presidency, but his employment history is not a great route to go down for criticism. Sure, he wasn’t a senator for very long, but he was a constitutional law professor for a long time and a state senator for awhile before his stint as an actual senator. She absolutely refused to acknowledge my facts.

        I guess your comment that he hates America and Americans prompted that story. It seems like your being sarcastic but a lot of people say that and I just think; man, there are so many real and legitimate concerns about his presidency but you say that? It just seems to be the wrong way to approach this conversation.

        1. ” Sure, he wasn’t a senator for very long, but he was a constitutional law professor for a long time”

          Inflated credentialism applied to someone who actually didn’t remotely resemble any sort of authority on the actual Constitution.

        2. but he was a constitutional law professor for a long time

          No he wasn’t. He was an adjunct at the University of Chicago for a couple of years. Obama has never published any legal writing of significance or done any real legal scholarship in his career. He also never practiced law. He got the adjunct job at Chicago for a couple of years to pad his resume and accomplished nothing of note while there.

          and a state senator for awhile before his stint as an actual senator.

          And he had no legislative accomplishments while a state senator. And he was only a state Senator because he managed to get his opponent in the Democratic primary disqualified before the election.

          When you consider the opportunities afforded someone who was editor of the law review at Harvard, Obama’s career was strikingly unaccomplished.

          1. so just to clarify, all of you think Obama “came out of nowhere” like my mother? lol okay.

            1. Just to clarify, you have no substantive response to the points I made. He was an adjunct law professor and a state senator who never authored any significant legislation. Compare that to the careers of anyone else who was editor of the Harvard law school and then explain how it was anything but nondescript/

              1. you have no substantive response to the points I made

                I don’t because your comments do not refute my idea that Obama did not “come out of nowhere.”

            2. No he wasn’t. He was an adjunct at the University of Chicago for a couple of years.

              I don’t really understand the distinction. Here is an excerpt from a statement from the University of Chicago:

              “Several times during his 12 years as a professor in the Law School, Obama was invited to join the faculty in a full-time tenure-track position, but he declined.”

              1. I don’t really understand the distinction. Here is an excerpt from a statement from the University of Chicago:

                There is an enormous distinction. Virtually anyone who has a decent idea for a class can be an adjunct. I have been. But that doesn’t make you a law professor, as in you do it full time and are on a tenure track. When you say someone is a “professor” the implication is that they do that for a living, not teach the odd class in their spare time, which is what Obama did. The two things are entirely different. Anyone can teach as an adjunct. Getting a job as a professor is a much harder proposition.

                Several times during his 12 years as a professor in the Law School, Obama was invited to join the faculty in a full-time tenure-track position, but he declined

                Bullshit. I don’t believe that. Obama never published a single legal article of significance. You don’t get invited to join a faculty if you have never published and never practiced law or worked as a clerk for an appellate court.

                Obama never did shit before being elected to the Senate.

                1. That excerpt came from the University of Chicago. You are saying you don’t believe them?

                  https://www.law.uchicago.edu/media

                  1. Again, he did nothing to deserve that offer. Show me one thing Obama ever published. Obama is not a legal scholar. And a post facto claim that they offered him a job as one doesn’t change that.

                    1. Again, I don’t have anything to say about that and I don’t have a horse in that particular race. MY point is related to the idea that he “came out of nowhere” which is unequivocally not true.

                      Can you just stop with the nonsense? You are so adversarial that you can’t just admit when you are fighting a losing battle. I don’t even like Obama. God forbid someone says something neutral about Obama.

            3. I don’t think he “came out of nowhere”. I think he was groomed and given preferential treatment for much of his life. I also think he is/was essentially an empty person.

              1. I think he was groomed and given preferential treatment for much of his life.

                Based off what I know, I actually agree with this sentiment.

                1. John is spot-on with the adjunct / professorship distinction.

                  I have taught law related classes at community colleges, four year state institutions, and small private colleges. In all cases, I was an adjunct. A poorly compensated one at that.

                  1. Here’s another excerpt from that statement:

                    “The title of Senior Lecturer is distinct from the title of Lecturer, which signifies adjunct status.”

                    1. I am an adjunct currently, and I can tell you that the requirements for that position are much lower than for a full time, tenured professor, sometimes entailing only a Master’s degree and no working experience, depending on the field.

                    2. I’m sure you can objectively define “coming out of nowhere” just as being a state senator for a whopping 7 years followed by 2/3rds of a whole Senate term before becoming president counts as “a while” and is quantitatively dispositive.

        3. How does a young man who barely spent any time in the USA and does not actually like the Constitution, get to teach constitutional law?

          Oh yeah, he’s a black man who wanted to use government force on Americans to make them do something they didnt want to do. The irony of that.

          1. hey man, I appreciate you wondering how he got the job (I wonder that too), but does that mean he came out of nowhere? That’s what I’m focused on.

        4. “…but he was a constitutional law professor for a long time…”
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cly_2pGTNw
          Second verse..,same as the first

        5. Sounds like your Mom is smarter than you.

        6. It’s funny, my Mom told me the other day that Obama “literally came from nowhere.”

          Very few people had heard of Obama before he ran for and won the presidency. Could that be what she meant, and nothing more complicated than that? Some of us don’t spend our lives following the careers of every politician in the country.

          1. Based off her response to my response, I’m guessing she didn’t mean it that way; but it’s always possible. I guess in that context, every president comes from nowhere unless he/she is involved in your state or other local activities.

            1. That’s how I would have meant the phrase “came out of nowhere” if I had said it. I actually feel like I pay a fair bit of attention to politics, and I’d never heard of Obama before he showed up as the leading Dem candidate. Obviously, I can’t speak for what your mother meant.

              I guess in that context, every president comes from nowhere unless he/she is involved in your state or other local activities.

              I think you skipped a step here. Every politician comes out of nowhere, at the beginning. But very few freshman Senators are elected President.

              Hillary has never been a “local” politician for me, but as the former First Lady, she had a pretty solid national presence. Trump had never even been a politician before, and he was likewise not really an unknown. Bob Dole wasn’t local, but he was a prominent politician before he ran.

              To be fair to your point, I’d never heard of Romney before he was a candidate either.

              Still, I think the point I’m trying to make is that Obama didn’t have very much exposure on the national stage before he was suddenly the D candidate, and then the bloody President.

  30. Open letter to ENB:

    There are people called “journalists” who do this thing called “journalism”, where they gather all relevant facts of a story and present them in an objective manner.

    An important part of this process is identifying any significant bias in your sources.

    Which brings me to the subject of Lanny Davis, Cohen’s lawyer. Any objective story including quotes about Trump from him should include ever-so-tiny-but-highly-relevant detail that HE WAS BILL CLINTON’S LAWYER AND IS A LONG-TIME ASSOCIATE OF THE CLINTONS.

    He is NOT an unbiased source. As a result, anything he says about Trump should be taken with a whole shakerful of salt.

    1. You know Trump is also a long-time associate of the Clintons, right?

      1. We already know. It’s how Trump became so racist, misogynistic, and xenophobic. Trump learned from the best.

      2. Attending a few functions with Bill and Hill and sucking up to them for political reasons is hardly the equivalent of being the consigliere of the Clinton crime syndicate.

        Lanny Davis is not doing this for Cohen, I can guarantee you that. This has all the hallmarks of a Clinton operation.

        1. Yep, which is why Davis arranged for Cohen to plead guilty to two non crimes in exchange for leniency on the actual crimes he did commit.

          Cohen committed fraud, then Davis and SDNY committed fraud and arranged for Cohen to commit more fraud.

          Fraud all the way down

      3. “”You know Trump is also a long-time associate of the Clintons, right?”‘

        Wouldn’t that make her a racist then?

      4. Yes Cathy, Trump often bought influence that the Clintons sold. I am not really sure that fact makes the point you hope it does, however.

    2. “There are people called “journalists” who do this thing called “journalism”, where they gather all relevant facts of a story and present them in an objective manner.”

      We’ve wondered for a long time why the staff’s commitment to reason (small “r”) has diminished in recent iterations.

      I wrote recently about a dog I rescued that was capable of courtesy. The dog would hover two inches away from my nose while I slept–because she was so eager to get fed, she wanted to be there the moment I woke up. She wouldn’t wake me up because . . . well, that’s courtesy. She’d just sit there and wait.

      Once I realized the dog was capable of courtesy, I started seeing the other things she did in a new light. No, she didn’t tear my project apart while I was away because she’s incapable of courtesy. More likely, she was tired of the competition for my attention.

      Maybe we’re making incorrect judgements about the motives of staff here because we’re making incorrect assumptions about their capabilities. We assume they should make rational arguments because we assume they’re capable of making rational arguments. What if they’re not?

      1. Maybe we’re making incorrect judgements about the motives of staff here because we’re making incorrect assumptions about their capabilities. We assume they should make rational arguments because we assume they’re capable of making rational arguments. What if they’re not?

        I think that is 90% of what is going on here Ken.

        1. Agreed and saddened by it.

    3. Libertarians have long been enamored of reason (small “l”) because reason leads to libertarian conclusions. If others aren’t capable of making those arguments using reason, we’d see something a lot like what we see: journalists picking libertarian topics and getting to conclusions at random. Not only that, but their conclusions on libertarian topics might not even be libertarian at all. They’d think we’re all supposed to support them because their motives are good. Isn’t that a lot like what we’re seeing?

    4. Umm, the Reason writers put out a magazine, which adheres to all the highest standards of journalism: fact checking, editorial oversight, all that.

      Hit and Run is a blog that, right there in the title, is titled “hit and run”. The idea of a morning “roundup” is that ENB quickly writes up a blog post with her morning bagel and coffee, including copying and pasting stuff from Twitter, and hits, “Post”. It’s a freakin’ informal morning blog, a side project of the Reason writers’ day jobs.

      1. The main journalistic criteria is to give Fist something to comment on every morning before he gets too antsy.

  31. ENB,
    Please don’t say “Trump’s Lovers”. Ewww.

    1. Please don’t say “Trump’s Lovers”. Ewww.

      Completely agree. Please be more descriptive. We need some better way to differentiate between Stormy and lc1789, for instance.

      1. For Stormy, I would prefer “Jizz Engineer”. Hold the phone, that’s worse. How ’bout “short term rental”?

        1. “”How ’bout “short term rental”?”‘

          Yeah, but she keeps the deposit.

          1. Hey-ooohhh!

  32. Seriously? Trump paying money to two women to make problem disappear, is a huge scandal because it may has “swayed votes”, but Clinton, deleting emails. wiping a hard drive and destroying devices to eliminate records subpoenaed by Congress is perfect okay? She did all of it to protect her campaign and what she did was ACTUALLY illegal and yet NO ONE is screaming about it and the media went out of their way to pretend it was NOT illegal. Give me a break….

    1. No Break for You!

      /Break Nazi

    2. Chris Cuomo (or was it Tapper?) went on the air to tell viewers that it was illegal for them to read wikileaks.

      Are we now going to consider Cuomo’s salary and CNN’s production budget a contribution and violation of campaign finance “laws”?

      1. Are we now going to consider Cuomo’s salary and CNN’s production budget a contribution and violation of campaign finance “laws”?

        Maybe? I keep thinking it would be funny to have Occasional-Cortex fill out paperwork so the GOP can properly report her in-kind contributions…

  33. “Some suggest the dirt buried by Cohen’s hush money may have swung votes in the 2016 election?that the president romping about with sex workers while his wife was at home pregnant or caring for a newborn may have been the proverbial bridge too far for certain evangelical conservative voters.”

    And “some suggest” you should at least try for a fact or two in a pile of bullshit.

    1. If there is a bigger bullshit term than “some suggest”, I cannot think of it. If you think something is true, then say it and defend it. It is just pathetic.

      1. Doesn’t this level of ‘journalism’ come with tits on page 5?

    2. Yeah.

      “some suggest” is of no more consequence that “some suggesting” that the moon is made of green cheese.

    3. Some suggest that the suggestion that others suggest it suggests the opposite suggestion.

    4. “Some”, “many”, . . . these are weasel words.

      They let the writer weasel out of citations, fixed interpretations, . . .

      Word of the Day: “weasel”.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel_word

      1. “Sources say”

        “According to anonymous sources”

        “There have been reports”

        “People close to the ________ are telling me”

  34. Is this going to be John Edwards all over again?

    1. No, because we have There are two Americas down pat, thank you.

    2. Trump would shoot someone in the street for that hair.

  35. “Some suggest the dirt buried by Cohen’s hush money may have swung votes in the 2016 election?that the president romping about with sex workers while his wife was at home pregnant or caring for a newborn may have been the proverbial bridge too far for certain evangelical conservative voters.”

    When you’re a “sex worker” feminist that gets so twisted that you start rooting for social conservatives to be even bigger prudes? You might have Trump Derangement Syndrome.

    1. Well spotted.

  36. http://dailycaller.com/2018/08…..sanctions/

    US slaps more sanctions on Russia. That is just what a Russian agent would do to throw us off his trial. Those Russkies are clever ones.

    1. Russia going bankrupt is all part of a clever plan to employ more piss-prostitutes.

    2. Any news on if the Rusal sanctions were postponed again?

  37. Some suggest the dirt buried by Cohen’s hush money may have swung votes in the 2016 election?that the president romping about with sex workers while his wife was at home pregnant or caring for a newborn may have been the proverbial bridge too far for certain evangelical conservative voters.

    Yes…they’d have sided with exceptionally pro-abortion Hillary who ALSO allowed her husband to cheat relentlessly while peddling influence as if it was going out of style and openly loathes most of them.

    This seems to be the argument.

  38. >>>Some suggest the dirt buried by Cohen’s hush money …

    Others suggest the opposite. What to think?

  39. “…while his wife was at home pregnant or caring for a newborn…”

    It’s funny how people can’t stop imagining these people living normal lives.

    Yes, she was taking care of a baby, when she wasn’t washing dishes or doing the laundry.

    And Hillary Clinton stops at the grocery store on the way home to pick up milk and eggs.

    They’re just like us, really.

    1. That is funny. I am sure Melina was toiling away in the Trump penthouse somewhere.

      1. But, you can also be sure that whatever Melina is doing in the kitchen and the gym, Hilary is not : )

      2. Trump fucks porn star as a private citizen — scandal.

        Clinton gets blown by an intern as President — meh.

        Just want to insure I get the dichotomy down cold here.

        Mind you, Clinton ALSO tried to hush her by getting her cushy jobs before calling her a psycho stalker et al.

    2. whats also funny is that lots of societies while pregnant or even caring for a newborn the wife allows the husband to be taken care of by prostitutes, not someone else who they may fall in love with.

      My theory is that Melania told Cohen to pay off the women and Trump has had to come in and pay off Cohen.

  40. The difference between the Clinton presidency scandals and the Trump presidency scandals?
    Trumps associates get to live long enough to go to jail.

    1. Ron Brown could not be reached for comment.

    2. Oh, snap!

  41. Robby’s article on the Portland Antifa American flag attack read basically like an Onion parody of a “concerned progressive” Atlantic essay. Among other surrealisms, he referred to Antifa and their “resistance strategy” as “deeply misguided.” They are, of course, quite properly and clearly guided about their purpose: They hate the American flag and everything that it stands for; and their so-called “counterprotesting,” like their other “direct actions,” normally and proudly involves beating peaceful innocent people, often with pipes and bike locks and so forth. (They were a lot further outside the Overton window quite recently than people seem to remember, especially since Charlottesville.)

    Anyway, this is worth mentioning at this late time because I have been clicking around to read more about this incident and have found something quite remarkable: I was wrong about my assessment of what Robby’s piece in an ostensibly libertarian publication actually resembled. In fact the mainstream media’s coverage of the assault has actually been substantially better than Robby’s. Go ahead, see for yourself! “Portland Antifa clubs Sanders supporter/ fellow counterprotester in head for carrying American flag!” is covered rather straight by all of them; none of this ridiculous nonsense that we get on these pages.

    1. Diego,

      I was informed by multiple commentators that since Robby said “violence is wrong” the entire rest of the article concern trolling about how Antifa beating up the wrong target might hurt the cause didn’t matter.


  42. most importantly?two counts related to making illegal campaign contributions, telling the court that in 2016, he had paid Stormy Daniels and former Playboy model Karen McDougal to keep quiet about trysts with “a candidate” and this candidate later reimbursed Cohen.

    One minor problem with this, that isn’t an illegal campaign contribution unless Trump used campaign funds and thus far we’ve seen no proof that is what happened.

    Is it possible? Absolutely. Is it unethical? Probably. Is this the reason they had Cohen enter into a plea deal? Quite definitely. It’s an attempt to create a crime out of ostensibly legal behavior, and I suspect it’ll fall flat on it’s face unless the Trump campaign used campaign funds, which seems unlikely for a guy with as much cash as Trump.

    1. I find that people who have cash don’t use their own money, thats why they have cash.

    2. Didn’t he fund most of the campaign?

    3. You’re confusing two crimes, one that Cohen pleaded guilty to and one that Duncan Hunter was indicted for.
      Cohen, at Trump’s direction, gave a gift valued at $130,000. There is taped evidence that it was done to aid the election effort. That is an illegal contribution.

      Hunter used campaign funds for personal expenses. That’s misuse of campaign funds. Cohen/Trump were not charged or implicated in that.

      1. talking also aids in an election effort is that also an illegal contribution now as well? wouldn’t that make bill clinton an illegal contributer to Hillary or for that matter anyone who speaks on anyones behalf now an illegal contribution? This is a false crime that outlaws first amendment actions

        1. Or leaking that Access Hollywood tape.

          Should NBC have its license pulled?

    4. There were also fraudulent invoices to the Trump Organization for reimbursement, in coordination with Trump. Fraud and tax evasion.

  43. Gosh, being on the West Coast is tuff-I may have missed another thread.
    But, getting to the Social Security, Rubio story that no one is commenting on.
    As long as libertarians buy into the mainstream story about the income tax, including payroll taxes, which are, actually, just income taxes without the allowed deductions, there will be attempts by Congress to give people more incentives to pay into them.
    The income tax is not what they tell you it is! It is a limited tax on those who profit from federal privilege. Its in the law, folks, even if Doherty says the law doesn’t count, it does. The problem with the income taxes is not the taxes themselves, but the disinformation about them spread since WWII to maximize revenue for the welfare/warfare state.
    And unlike The DEMOCRAT PARTY, I have PROOF!! in the form of thousands and thousands of complete refunds of all withheld tax, including Social Security, Medicare, etc since 2003 when a libertarian named Pete Hendrickson figured out the best way to legally fix the problem.
    If most Americans can get full refunds of the tax, why would Rubio’s proposal make economic sense for those folks?
    Read my latest blogpost, and view the 2 minute video by an ordinary guy just like you, only less cynical, at the end.
    http://www.nontaxpayersforronpaul.blogspot.com

  44. Funny how we get the right man for job at the right time. Trump will thumb his nose at the media, Congress, social democrats, conservatives. . ..anyone. Finally have a POTUS that will say f??you the proponents of self aggrandizement in such a self aggrandizing manner.

  45. It’s not a crime to pay someone for the purpose of influencing an election. People pay newspapers all the time to influence elections (it’s called a campaign ad). And payment to Daniels would not be an in-kind payment to a campaign. An in-kind payment to a campaign has to be paid TO THE CAMPAIGN. An example of an in-kind payment would be letting a campaign use your building as a campaign headquarters free of charge. By Cohen pleading guilty he’s just showing that a prosecutor can make a suspect say anything. Cohen might just as well have pleaded guilty to possessing a dvd player. Or Mueller’s group might just as well have commanded Cohen to do the chicken dance in court. Given the power of this prosecutor, I suspect Cohen would have danced.

    1. This is all just based on a quick read through the attorney’s charges posted here yesterday by ENB: Cohen told the prosecutors that he had meetings with Trump campaign staff where they discussed making payments to the women. It’s those meetings that allegedly make the payoffs part of campaign spending.

  46. “two counts related to making illegal campaign contributions, telling the court that in 2016, he had paid Stormy Daniels and former Playboy model Karen McDougal to keep quiet about trysts with “a candidate” and this candidate later reimbursed Cohen. ”

    There is just absolutely nothing illegal about having your lawyer do work for you and invoicing you later for it.

    This is yet another Big Lefist Lie, at the heart of our political system.

    Self government with the Left is probably impossible at this point. This level of dishonesty in the legal system, at the highest levels of politics, means the Rule of Law is done.

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