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Reason Roundup

I.G. Report Says Comey Was Insubordinate, Alleged FBI Efforts to Help Clinton Might Have Backfired: Reason Roundup

Plus: Steve Bannon believes in Bitcoin.

Robby Soave | 6.15.2018 9:30 AM

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The Justice Department's inspector general, Michael Horowitz, released his report yesterday on the actions taken by former FBI chief James Comey and his team during their investigation of candidate Hillary Clinton during the 2016 campaign. The report described Comey as "insubordinate" but did not find any evidence of bias.

The report was particularly critical of Comey's decision to hold a press conference announcing that Clinton wouldn't face charges for using a private email server. "We found none of his reasons to be a persuasive basis for deviating from well-established department policies in a way intentionally designed to avoid supervision by department leadership."

The report also criticized FBI officials Peter Strzok and Lisa Page. Strzok and Page, who were involved in the investigation, frequently texted each other about their manifest dislike of Donald Trump. Strzok even asserted that they "will stop" Trump from becoming president. This raises the possibility that Strzok improperly prioritized the Russia aspect of the investigation in hopes of turning up information that would damage the Trump campaign, but the inspector general didn't find hard evidence to support this theory. Still, "we did not have confidence that Strzok's decision to prioritize the Russia investigation over following up on the Midyear-related investigative lead discovered on the Weiner laptop was free from bias," the report said.

If Strzok wanted to keep Trump out of the White House, his strategy backfired badly. By failing to act swifty on the Weiner lead, he merely delayed matters, which meant that Comey's eventual decision to publicly announce the discovery ended up happening just days before the election. It's not actually clear whether this was what swung the election, though Clinton certainly believes it is. From her perspective, then, she should be pretty angry at a faction within the FBI that was possibly trying to help her.

15/ In other words, IG suspects Strzok was biased against Trump, and that may have influenced the decision to sit on the Weiner laptop for a month. Which might have ultimately set a course of events in motion that cost Clinton, his preferred candidate, the presidency.

— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) June 14, 2018

Reacting to the news that Comey himself used a private email server, Clinton tweeted:

But my emails. https://t.co/G7TIWDEG0p

— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) June 14, 2018

Comey says he respects the inspector general but believes he did nothing wrong.

FREE MINDS

A New York Times story highlights how Republican politicians in Arizona, Wisconsin, Georgia, and North Carolina have created new laws that force universities to punish students for heckling speakers. Ostensibly intended to protect free speech on campus, these laws create free speech problems of their own: They establish mandatory minimums for students who shut down speakers, and they prohibit university administrations from taking positions on controversial issues. But the line between heckling, which should be impermissible, and civil disagreement, which should be permissible, is not always clear, and universities don't always do a good job of extending due process protections to students accused of violating university policy. It's possible these laws will prompt universities to take actions against students who were themselves engaged in free speech, and this could have a chilling effect.

The Times notes that not everyone on the right favors such policies:

The model is not without disagreement on the right, however. Its mandatory punishment provisions drew a rebuke from the Charles Koch Institute, one of whose directors said conservatives were "giving in to the same fragility of which they so freely accuse their liberal counterparts.''

FREE MARKETS

Steve Bannon is a fan of Bitcoin. The former Trump advisor described it as "disruptive populism" in a recent interview. According to The Wrap,

Bannon has been talking to investors and hedge fund managers about launching new coins. He threw out the idea for a "deplorables coin"—playing off the dig Hillary Clinton took at half of Trump supporters in 2016—recently at Harvard University.

Bitcoin's true believers look at the banking system with a wary eye, blaming it for financial crises like the 2008 collapse of the housing markets. Digital currencies have also attracted libertarians and others dubious of regulatory oversight of the monetary system—something that Bannon seems to side with.

"It was pretty obvious to me that unless you got somehow control over your currency, all these political movements were going to be beholden to who controlled the currency," Bannon told the NYT.

QUICK HITS

  • Rob Rogers, a longtime cartoonist for the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, was fired after an editor rejected several of his anti-Trump cartoons.
  • Karl Rove discusses his mother's suicide in an op-ed for The Wall Street Journal.
  • A roller coaster at Daytona Beach Boardwalk broke down, seriously injuring six people.
  • A prominent feminist and literary theorist has been accused of violating Title IX—the reason is unknown—and celebrated feminists such as Judith Butler are rushing to her defense. The College Fix thinks there's some hypocrisy there.
  • Reason's Elizabeth Nolan Brown is getting married today, and the many, many D.C. journalists in attendance at the wedding have been instructed to avoid checking Twitter every five seconds. If you're a Trump official mired in scandal and hoping to avoid bad press when everything comes crashing down, now is the time.

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   7 years ago

    Steve Bannon is a fan of Bitcoin. The former Trump advisor described it as "disruptive populism" in a recent interview.

    Back in our good graces.

    1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

      I think you need to double check your math.

      (literally Hitler) + (something good) = Now that's literally Hitler

      Annnnnd...Bannon ruined bitcoin

  2. Fist of Etiquette   7 years ago

    Rob Rogers, a longtime cartoonist for the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, was fired after an editor rejected several of his anti-Trump cartoons.

    Friday Funnies is hiring.

    1. Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland   7 years ago

      Sounds like a comment from the depleted human residue left behind in western Pennsylvania's failed towns after generations of bright flight.

      Johnstown? Uniontown? Oil City? Waynesburg? Jeannette? Evans City? New Castle? Greensburg? Washington?

      Could be any one of hundreds of hollowed-out, shambling towns.

  3. Fist of Etiquette   7 years ago

    Reason's Elizabeth Nolan Brown is getting married today...

    Hopefully not to a sex robot that displays Twitter feeds on its face. No, way, hopefully so.

    1. Leo Kovalensky II   7 years ago

      Hundreds of libertarian hearts are breaking today. Hundreds... almost 95%.

      1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

        What?

        1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

          Congrats to the newlyweds. And my condolences to Leo and the hundreds of the broken hearted

          1. Leo Kovalensky II   7 years ago

            Come on, we've all had at least a slight ENB crush.

            Congrats to the newlyweds indeed.

            1. Chipper Morning Baculum   7 years ago

              Congrats to ENB! May she find hapiness and blossoming love in her union.

              1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

                ^ Look at this sentimental guy here

                *gives Chipper a noogie*

            2. 100% Satisfaction Guaranteed   7 years ago

              "Come on, we've all had at least a slight ENB crush"

              Nope. However, marriage is testing, and rewarding, and I wish her and her new wife well.

      2. BestUsedCarSales   7 years ago

        Mikey always called her a murderous Jew communist. And her fiance a beard and a cuck. But he only did it because he was in love. And now he will be crushed.

        1. General Skarr's Prize Petunias   7 years ago

          Will it get him to shut up and quit making our skin crawl?

          1. BestUsedCarSales   7 years ago

            No

      3. Half-Virtue, Half-Vice   7 years ago

        Ima drink a bottle of whiskey and burn my white knight cloak.

      4. Rat on a train   7 years ago

        I thought it was 8%.

  4. Fist of Etiquette   7 years ago

    The College Fix thinks there's some hypocrisy there.

    They always think there's some hypocrisy there. And they're right.

  5. $park? leftist poser   7 years ago

    that may have influenced the decision to sit on the Weiner laptop for a month

    I don't know, but I suspect a month is a long time to sit on a Weiner. Well played, Mr Tapper.

  6. Fist of Etiquette   7 years ago

    But my emails. https://t.co/G7TIWDEG0p
    ? Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) June 14, 2018

    Yes, your effing emails. And all the other baggage.

    1. Leo Kovalensky II   7 years ago

      Saddle baggage

    2. Zeb   7 years ago

      I have no idea what she was trying to say with that Tweet. Two wrongs make a right?

      1. Sevo   7 years ago

        Still trying, isn't she?
        Comey did not control that server (or farm, in the case of Gmail); her's was under her direct control, which she proved by destroying evidence.
        Not
        The
        Same.

      2. Bubba Jones   7 years ago

        She's no swampier than anyone else in DC!

      3. perlchpr   7 years ago

        That's how I read it.

    3. Sometimes a Great Notion   7 years ago

      Hillary is right. Throw Comey in a jail cell with her. Oh wait those are just for low ranking service members and employees of the DOD not cabinet officials.

  7. Leo Kovalensky II   7 years ago

    IG suspects Strzok was biased against Trump, and that may have influenced the decision to sit on the Weiner laptop for a month. Which might have ultimately set a course of events in motion that cost Clinton, his preferred candidate, the presidency.

    Do you even 5D chess, brah?

  8. Fist of Etiquette   7 years ago

    In other words, IG suspects Strzok was biased against Trump, and that may have influenced the decision to sit on the Weiner...

    HA!

  9. Citizen X   7 years ago

    Reacting to the news that Comey himself used a private email server, Clinton tweeted:

    Hillary Clinton
    ?
    @HillaryClinton
    But my emails.

    Kyle Cheney
    ?
    @kyledcheney
    IG found that on numerous occasions, COMEY used a personal GMail account to conduct official FBI business, according to source briefed on the report.

    Not that i believe for a second that Herself types out her own tweets, but it is an axiom of politics that one person's shittiness cancels out or excuses another's.

    1. Leo Kovalensky II   7 years ago

      She misspelled "muh emailz"

    2. Just Say'n   7 years ago

      I like how 21st Century politics is just basically an endless loop of hot takes. Everyone is just trolling each other.

      As an example, here were the first two comments to Comey's Tweet in response to the IG report:

      "Now just get ready for the Republicans to twist and turn this report in their favor. Thank you for your honesty and integrity."

      "Gargle his balls harder Krassenstein"

      1. Citizen X   7 years ago

        It is truly a time of marvels, when the mighty can be told to gargle balls by just any douchebag with an internet connection. I am being completely serious.

        1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

          Even Bailey was trolling yesterday. Everyone is savage now. I respect that

          1. Chipper Morning Baculum   7 years ago

            One could make the argument that most human communication is trolling, depending on how it is defined. But yeah, let's not go down that road. Let us be good to each other and comminicate to build rapport and understanding.

            1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

              Why don't you go gargle some balls!

              (seriously, one of the best troll remarks ever)

              1. General Skarr's Prize Petunias   7 years ago

                It is pretty amazing that anybody who wants to can straight up yell at Trump, the fucking President of the United States, the most military powerful country on earth, to GARGLE A HOMELESS PERSON'S BALLS!

                1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

                  It's so beautiful it brings a tear to my eyes.

                2. Citizen X   7 years ago

                  Not only that, but the President of the United States is more likely than not to personally respond and call you a loser, in a manner that will then be preserved in the Library of Congress in perpetuity.

                  1. Half-Virtue, Half-Vice   7 years ago

                    Better to own it. I want a wall of insults at the Trump Presidential Library to cement what it was really like for people who will have no idea down the road.

                    I picture two polished marble canvases with engravings, on one side "You're a slob"; on the other "literally Hitler" etc.

        2. Cy   7 years ago

          It is pretty amusing.

        3. perlchpr   7 years ago

          You've almost convinced me to get a Twitter account.

    3. Zeb   7 years ago

      it is an axiom of politics that one person's shittiness cancels out or excuses another's.

      That does seem to be the case. Every time I try to talk to normal people about politics that is what it likely comes down to in their minds.

      1. Bubba Jones   7 years ago

        It's all tribal competition. No one gives a fuck about policy.

        1. Zeb   7 years ago

          I point out that Hillary broke the law and get "well Chaney did it too" or something. So, what does that mean? We should never enforce the law because it didn't get enforced in some other case? Or is it more like you get a "get out of jail free" card when the other side does something bad and doesn't get punished.

          1. BYODB   7 years ago

            Honestly, I'd rather no one get punished rather than one side have the law selectively enforced but in no way would I consider that 'good', just' fair'.

            Now, about the IRS and it's selective enforcement...

    4. Shirley Knott   7 years ago

      Yeah, using an account on somebody else server is just like setting up and running your own server.
      I'd ask "how stupid does she think we are" but that's hardly necessary at this point. It's her very own twin set and pearls.

      1. Sevo   7 years ago

        "Yeah, using an account on somebody else server is just like setting up and running your own server."
        Thank you.
        That slimy hag is still trying to weasel out of it.

      2. Citizen X   7 years ago

        If she wasn't thinking contemptuously of the "common man," she wouldn't be thinking of him at all.

        1. Chipper Morning Baculum   7 years ago

          Howard Roark:Ellsworth Toohey::Hillary Clinton:common man

  10. Just Say'n   7 years ago

    Robby just did the best write-up of the IG report that I've seen. He basically combined the big takeaways that I've seen conservatives make with the big takeaways that progressives and the media (but, I repeat myself) have emphasized.

    Nicely done

    1. Zeb   7 years ago

      I knew that boy had potential.

      1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

        Robby gets a lot of undeserved grief. I imagine that he's secretly an agorist and all the hair products and inability to change a tire are all an act. In reality he's reading Konkin and Karl Hess every night.

        1. Citizen X   7 years ago

          He keeps those silky-haired Yorkies around because their fur is a convenient place to surreptitiously stash Krugerrands.

        2. BestUsedCarSales   7 years ago

          My theory? Robby is just a character written by 2chili

  11. Ken Shultz   7 years ago

    "Rob Rogers, a longtime cartoonist for the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, was fired after an editor rejected several of his anti-Trump cartoons."

    No one here thinks this is a First Amendment issue, right?

    Because libertarians who can't tell the difference between free speech and a hole in the ground are embarrassing.

    1. Leo Kovalensky II   7 years ago

      The first amendment doesn't protect your right to speech on a private platform.

      Is it troubling that politics has infected the media so much? Yes. Is it a violation of Rogers's rights? No.

      1. $park? leftist poser   7 years ago

        This pretty well sums it up.

      2. SIV   7 years ago

        Is it troubling that politics has infected the media so much?

        The editorial page is where the media is supposed to be political.

        1. Ken Shultz   7 years ago

          Do you think Robby thinks this is a First Amendment issue?

          1. Scarecrow Repair & Chippering   7 years ago

            I thought the point of the link was surprise that anything anti-trump was a fireable offense in the media these days.

          2. Zeb   7 years ago

            No.

      3. BYODB   7 years ago


        The first amendment doesn't protect your right to speech on a private platform.

        Actually, after the Trump / Twitter ruling it apparently does.

    2. $park? leftist poser   7 years ago

      No one here thinks this is a First Amendment issue, right?

      Because libertarians ...

      Seeing as how there aren't any libertarians here, I'm not sure what the big deal is.

    3. Just Say'n   7 years ago

      "No one here thinks this is a First Amendment issue, right?"

      No. Just football players who are forbidden from kneeling is a First Amendment issue for reasons I can't understand

      1. Leo Kovalensky II   7 years ago

        Just football players who are forbidden from kneeling is a First Amendment issue for reasons I can't understand

        Reason never called that a 1A issue that I'm aware of. They were trolling the butt-hurt on the right over having their feelings offended by having to see something that they don't agree with. I think that Reason has been consistent in calling out snowflakes on both sides of the left-right spectrum.

        1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

          Robby has been consistent, yes.

    4. Zeb   7 years ago

      The first amendment doesn't cover every aspect of free speech. But it's absurd for anyone to suggest that a newspaper (or any private organization) has any obligation to employ anyone or print any particular thing.

      Anyway, as far as I can tell, pretty much all editorial cartoonists deserve to be fired.

      1. Aloysious   7 years ago

        ^ this right here.

    5. chemjeff radical individualist   7 years ago

      One can argue that it's a violation of the *spirit* of the First Amendment, if that spirit is supposed to represent a commitment to free and open exchange of ideas.

      And as far as NFL players kneeling and the First Amendment goes, I don't think anyone at Reason went farther than that.

      1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

        I agree, we should promote the "spirit" of free speech. But, that only works if it's applied consistently. And I do have a slight problem with a cartoonist being fired for being too critical of the president.

        1. Cyto   7 years ago

          Well, based only on a blurb... apparently he turned in six consecutive anti-Trump cartoons. Then the complaint was that the editor didn't want a diversity of views....

          I'd say that if your editor says "give the Trump stuff a rest and find something else to comment on" and you don't... maybe it isn't the editor that has the problem.

          Hitting the same note over and over again isn't music any more. That's why you have editors.

  12. Citizen X   7 years ago

    Reason's Elizabeth Nolan Brown is getting married today, and the many, many D.C. journalists in attendance at the wedding

    Simple Mikey is bursting with so many dumbass things to say about this that his head is emitting a low whistling sound.

    1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

      Do you think Gillespie has a formal leather jacket that he wears only for special occasions?

      1. Citizen X   7 years ago

        No, but The Jacket has a more formal Gillespie that it puts on when the occasion warrants.

        1. Chipper Morning Baculum   7 years ago

          The Formal Gillespie has no hair anywhere.

    2. Shirley Knott   7 years ago

      Nah, that's just him standing cross-ways to the wind.

    3. Sevo   7 years ago

      "Reason's Elizabeth Nolan Brown is getting married today, and the many, many D.C. journalists in attendance at the wedding"

      It's YUGE!

    4. $park? leftist poser   7 years ago

      I just realized that as much as he claims to hate her he's never come up with a retard name for her. And she has an easy name to work with, Dizzybreath Nitwit Clown. Done.

      1. Citizen X   7 years ago

        There's definitely an element of latent twisted attraction there. Unlike other Reason writers who've encountered Mikey in the comments, she tends to react to him with bemusement rather than outright revulsion, which is no doubt the nicest treatment he's ever received from any female, including his mother.

        1. Chipper Morning Baculum   7 years ago

          I've seen enough suspense thrillers to know where this leads.

          1. Citizen X   7 years ago

            -1 pet bunny

  13. Brian   7 years ago

    Trump is the president, and Hillary's just a big nothing burger.

    No one at the FBI is going to jail for this, so it's a fake scandal.

    What difference, at this point, does it make?

  14. $park? leftist poser   7 years ago

    "giving in to the same fragility of which they so freely accuse their liberal counterparts.''

    If I know anything, I know that I'm not a snowflake.

    1. Zeb   7 years ago

      I'm a delicate flower.

      1. Eidde   7 years ago

        I think the "snowflake" thing comes from the idea the no two snowflakes are exactly the same (how do we know this?) and children are like snowflakes, each one unique.

        1. $park? leftist poser   7 years ago

          Feel free to use the motto of socialistic individualism (which was stolen from a cheap demotivational poster):

          You're unique, just like everyone else

          1. Eidde   7 years ago

            I think the "everyone is special thing" got deformed into "let's tell the children how special they are while soft-pedaling their responsibilities and not giving them the spankings they deserve when they mess up."

            1. Zeb   7 years ago

              Everyone is in fact unique. The problem comes when people decide that means that everyone is good they way they are, or that anyone else should give a crap about other people's uniqueness. Unique doesn't imply interesting.

              1. $park? leftist poser   7 years ago

                https://goo.gl/images/cAG5As

              2. BestUsedCarSales   7 years ago

                Except for identical twins. Which is why Libertarianism explicitly denies them rights.

                1. Nardz   7 years ago

                  Wrong!
                  One of them gets rights

                  1. Mock-star   7 years ago

                    ...the one who exits the thunderdome.

        2. Zeb   7 years ago

          Once you get past the scale of molecules, no two of anything are exactly the same.

  15. Just Say'n   7 years ago

    "and the many, many D.C. journalists in attendance at the wedding have been instructed to avoid checking Twitter every five seconds"

    Skinny jeans and male flood pants are suggested attire. Please remember to remove your infinity scarf before entering the service.

    1. $park? leftist poser   7 years ago

      Will the 21 bun salute still be held as they exit the chapel?

      1. Citizen X   7 years ago

        More importantly, is there enough fruit sushi in the entire world to cater the reception?

    2. JonBlack   7 years ago

      Should I bring my own Mason jar for beverages, or will they be provided to the guests?

  16. Just Say'n   7 years ago

    Everyone should listen to Michael Malice's podcast: "Your Welcome". He had a good episode with Stephen Kinsella a couple days ago

    1. $park? leftist poser   7 years ago

      I disagree that everyone should listen to it. Just because.

      1. $park? leftist poser   7 years ago

        Also because we don't know who's welcome he might be talking about.

        1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

          I don't know why he spelled it that way, but Malice is a strange guy.

          I learned that from Harvey Pekar

          http://www.amazon.com/Ego-Hubris-Mich.....0345479394

      2. Just Say'n   7 years ago

        You're probably right there. "Everyone should listen.." is a pretty demanding tone to use with people who pride themselves on being individualists

        1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

          "Nobody listen to this, because you probably wouldn't get it, you cosmos"

          ^ Better libertarian pitch

          1. Citizen X   7 years ago

            [immediately downloads podcast]

    2. Chipper Morning Baculum   7 years ago

      Kinsella is such a douche. I can't stand that guy.

      1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

        You take trademark law very seriously, I take it

        1. Chipper Morning Baculum   7 years ago

          It is not so much his ideas, as the tone he adapts when "debating" someone that disagrees with him. Also, he will not approve comments on his site that question/criticize his theories.

          1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

            I didn't know that.

  17. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   7 years ago

    ... Comey's eventual decision to publicly announce the discovery ended up happening just days before the election. It's not actually clear whether this was what swung the election, though Clinton certainly believes it is.

    Statistics genius Nate Silver, employing his characteristic rigorous number-crunching analysis, has proved that The Comey Letter Probably Cost Clinton the Election. Don't be an anti-intellectual science-denier and pretend this isn't the case.

    #StillWithHer
    #LibertariansForHillary

    1. Scarecrow Repair & Chippering   7 years ago

      538's analysis may or may not be correct, but it doesn't matter; that letter may have been the straw that broke the camel's back, but Hillary was the one who overloaded the camel in the first place. She did her damnedest to help Trump win the GOP primary. She did her damnedest to lock out Bernie. She thought the election was all but over, she got lazy and sloppy, she concentrated on the popular vote instead of the electoral college vote.

      When an election is as close as this one was, half the voters will be disappointed. You may as well have a coin flip. It was only that close because she fucked up her campaign something fierce. The only person who lost that election was Hillary.

  18. Longtorso, Johnny   7 years ago

    Sea Change
    Consider, for example, this poll question: "How serious a threat to Europe is the rapid population growth of Muslims?" Those who thought it a very or somewhat serious threat:

    Belgium 72 per cent;

    Netherlands 71 per cent;

    Germany 70 per cent;

    France 68 per cent;

    United Kingdom 63 per cent.

    When a policy concern of 65 to 70 per cent of the people is regarded as unmentionable by all mainstream parties, you have a crisis of democracy.

    1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

      The problem for European leaders is that they refused to compromise with the wishes of the electorate. If they had imposed some kind of limitation they might have avoided the reactionary backlash that is building. Open borders is a pipeline to fascism.

      1. Longtorso, Johnny   7 years ago

        That's one of my many issues with the Reason writers. Their absolutist position combined with the "we'll do what we want on this, peasants" attitude on the part of the political class, which Reason fully supports, is going to create a backlash that will be infinitely worse than a compromise position worked out earlier.

        1. Scarecrow Repair & Chippering   7 years ago

          You are reading too much into open borders, as if there is only one open borders position. I myself believe in open borders, but I also believe that if the government weren't controlling the borders, we would would not have an huge influx of immigrants. The EU has a problem because governments are practically begging refugees to enter, especially Germany, as if in atonement for the Holocaust.

          1. Cy   7 years ago

            "The EU has a problem because governments are practically begging refugees to enter, especially Germany, as if in atonement for the Holocaust."

            I think it has more to do with their abysmal birth rates.

            1. Chipper Morning Baculum   7 years ago

              It's both. Don't underestimate the collective national guilt that the Germans still feel for the Holocaust.

              1. Nardz   7 years ago

                Which is why it's convenient, and not just for Germany, to import Muslims that ALSO hate the Jews...

          2. Zeb   7 years ago

            Europe also has the disadvantage of being right next to the most fucked up part of the world.

            1. BestUsedCarSales   7 years ago

              Australia is thousands of miles from Europe.

      2. NotAnotherSkippy   7 years ago

        So Mission Accomplished or We Were That All Along?

    2. Tony   7 years ago

      Mass hysteria over a scapegoated minority also tends to be a problem for democracy.

      1. NotAnotherSkippy   7 years ago

        True. Just look at Occupy.

      2. Just Say'n   7 years ago

        Restricting immigration is not "scapegoating a minority". Burka bans and refusing to allow a food alternative other than pork in public schools is "scapegoating a minority". Which have occurred regardless of the open borders policy and even shrugged off by the open borders crowd.

        "Democracy" has nothing to do with any of that other than allowing the ruled to have a say in who rules them. The more you refuse to allow the electorate to have a voice in the ballot box the faster you get bad results.

        1. Tony   7 years ago

          Restricting immigration because the immigrants in question are political scapegoats is a problem not being addressed by rational thought but by easy fascist appeals to lizard brains.

          1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

            What you just said literally makes no sense. Seriously, I don't get what point you're making here

            1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

              I'll break this down for you: if only fascists will discuss immigration then people will vote for fascists. It's pretty simple. There's no nefarious secret cabal orchestrating this. There are just a bunch of elites who refuse to listen to the electorate.

              1. Tony   7 years ago

                The electorate are being duped by people who want to abuse them for their own purposes. Scapegoating minorities is literally the oldest play in the book.

                Do you not think there's a problem if the "electorate" thinks there's a major crisis with immigration when, in fact, there is no crisis?

                1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

                  How is there not a crisis if the people believe there is a crisis? Have they imagined the terrorist attacks or the tent cities?

                  No one is "duping" anyone. You are duping yourself to believe that somehow you are correct, even after election after election has relegated your viewpoint to minority status.

                  This is why the Left is being relegated to the dustbin of history. They think anyone who doesn't uphold their principles is somehow being duped.

                  1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

                    *Millions of people flood across borders*

                    Tony: There's no problem, because they can't afford to live in my tony suburb

                    *Leftists lose elections throughout Europe*

                    Tony: You were all duped into believing there was a crisis

                2. loveconstitution1789   7 years ago

                  At least Tony is admitting that electorate is being duped.

                  The Democrats have been fooling the lefties for decades.

          2. Citizen X   7 years ago

            easy fascist appeals to lizard brains

            Whoa, don't throw away the perfect title for your memoir on a Hit'n'Run comment!

        2. Zeb   7 years ago

          I think it is fair to say that a lot of people pushing for restricting immigration further do participate in scapegoating certain minorities, though. Whatever you think about immigration, you have to admit there are some pretty reprehensible views on both sides.

          1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

            If there are people scapegoating immigrants in European politics, which I don't doubt that there are, they are winning elections because the other parties refuse to address the issue. There are people who have always scapegoated others in politics, but they don't win elections unless they are discussing something of concern with voters.

            Open border dogma is leading to fascism

            1. Zeb   7 years ago

              I was thinking more of the economic and crime related scapegoating that goes on in the US. I got no idea what Europe should do about immigration.

              1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

                Oh. Well the original topic concerned Europe and that's what I was addressing. Nonetheless, you're point is right that scapegoating is occurring, but I contend that they would have no traction if elected leaders would at least address voters' concerns with immigration

      3. Brian   7 years ago

        Now you're getting it.

      4. Shirley Knott   7 years ago

        The problem for, really of, democracy is that it is two wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner.
        Which, in practice, turns into tribal and identity politics as everyone tries either to get more wolves or to protect the sheep.

      5. Cy   7 years ago

        "Mass hysteria over a scapegoated minority also tends to be a problem for democracy."

        Holy shit the irony!

        1. Microaggressor   7 years ago

          "KILL WHITEY"
          -Tony, probably.

  19. Sevo   7 years ago

    "Some Canadians are urging Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to seek peace with the U.S. president. Many others want him to hang tough even as Trump seeks to make political hay with his anti-Canada rhetoric.
    [...]
    there's broad agreement with this assessment by The Globe and Mail, a leading Canadian newspaper: "Relations between two of the world's closest allies are now at a perilous low."
    https://www.sfchronicle.com/world/article/
    Canada-US-relations-at-a-low-after-
    Trudeau-Trump-12995010.php

    I haven't bothered to read what Trump said, but what is Canada going to do? Build a wall to keep the Canuks from leaving for the US.

    1. Shirley Knott   7 years ago

      Shut down the mail-order pharmacies?

      1. Sevo   7 years ago

        Shovel the snow south?

        1. NotAnotherSkippy   7 years ago

          Stop accepting illegal immigrants from the US. Wait, they already did that...

          1. Ron   7 years ago

            They will still cross the border to the U.s. for medical treatment

  20. lap83   7 years ago

    Reason's Elizabeth Nolan Brown is getting married today, and the many, many D.C. journalists in attendance at the wedding have been instructed to avoid checking Twitter every five seconds.

    I'm picturing the wedding scene from Veep where they confiscate the phones. But I guess that would be coercion, so you just ask nicely? Good luck with that! But seriously, congratulations

  21. Ken Shultz   7 years ago

    "WASHINGTON?Beijing said it would retaliate immediately after the Trump administration announced Friday that it will move ahead with tariffs on $50 billion of goods from China, raising the potential for a trade war between the world's two biggest economies.

    A White House statement said it would implement a 25% tariff on $50 billion of Chinese goods "that contain industrially significant technologies."

    China's Commerce Ministry, in a terse statement moments after the Trump announcement, said Beijing will immediately launch tariffs on American goods in "equal scale and equal strength" to the U.S. measures."

    ---WSJ

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/wh.....1529065534

    1. Ken Shultz   7 years ago

      Up top, we discussed how important it is to know the difference between the First Amendment and a hole in the ground. It's also important to know the difference between announcements and things that actually happen.

      Let's follow the information from above.

      The Trump administration made an announcement.

      The White House made a statement.

      In response, the Chinese made a terse statement.

      This is describing a war of words rather than a trade war.

      When you're in a seedy pool hall, the guys to fear aren't the ones who threaten to sock you in the mouth. Threaten the guys you should be afraid of, and they don't respond with threats. They punch you in the mouth for threatening them. There's an important difference between threatening to sock someone in the mouth and socking someone in the mouth. It's important to now the difference.

      There's an important difference between making threats and a trade war, too.

      Here's to hoping there is no trade war.

      Anybody who reads this as a trade war itself needs to take a deep breath, should maybe join a yoga class.

      1. Leo Kovalensky II   7 years ago

        This is describing a war of words rather than a trade war.

        Do you deny that Trump has imposed a tariff on steel and aluminum imports? It's moved beyond just words, it's in effect. Reason even ran an article yesterday highlighting that InSinkErator (an American company) has already seen market share impacted because Chinese competitors are getting cheaper steel.

        1. NotAnotherSkippy   7 years ago

          Take the case of InSinkErator, a Wisconsin-based maker of garbage disposers. Thanks to the import tax, the production cost of the U.S.-made garbage disposers increased dramatically overnight. To survive, the company had to raise its products' prices, making them instantly less competitive globally. It's now losing consumers to Chinese companies that export much cheaper garbage disposers to the United States.

          So let's ask the question I ask of my engineers when they describe something this way.

          Where in the set of real numbers lie the following words: "cost, raise, price, less competitive, now losing consumers?"

          While I agree that it makes them less competitive (assuming that steel-containing products imported from china are also not included in the tariffs--you sure about that?), the complete lack of quantification doesn't help the case.

          1. Leo Kovalensky II   7 years ago

            Lack of precision in the reporting doesn't mean that it's not happening. It's not even a stretch to anyone with any sense of economic thought that raising the prices of raw materials in America will put producers of goods at a disadvantage against those who don't have to pay more for raw materials.

            Even if you added tariffs on imported garbage disposals, you have the government sopping up wealth through the price of goods both domestically produced and imported. Hardly a libertarian or conservative position.

            Domestically, reactions from elected officials often varied among regional lines rather than ideological lines.[8] The tariffs have seen widespread criticism from conservatives and Republicans.[9][10][11] Reception was mixed among Democratic officials,[12] with Democrats from Rust Belt states voicing support for tariffs on steel and aluminum imports.[13]

            Keep defending the tariffs though. You'll have something in common with the rent-seeking unionists. True bipartisanship!

            1. Shirley Knott   7 years ago

              And never forget the transaction costs.
              Tariffs require tariff collectors, managers, auditors, managers of auditors, and desks, offices, computers, HR staffing, etc., etc.
              Nothing the government does is done for free, and those costs are a direct loss, even granting that what the government does should be or need be done.
              Anyone who thinks those costs are inconsequential hasn't been paying attention.

              Then the iron law of bureaucracy kicks in.

        2. Scarecrow Repair & Chippering   7 years ago

          Shhhhhhh! He's got his eyes closed and hands over his ears.

        3. Ken Shultz   7 years ago

          "Do you deny that Trump has imposed a tariff on steel and aluminum imports?

          One side imposing a few tariffs is not a trade war.

          A trade war is more than one country trying to out do each other with escalating tariffs.

          That hasn't happened yet.

          It may happen.

          I hope it doesn't. China has already made numerous concessions in response to the Trump administration's demands--and seeing Trump walk away from something he could crow about getting because of his demands seems unlikely to me, especially in an election year. Unfortunately, I'm not sure tariffs against China is likely to lose Trump many swing voters come 2020.

          Regardless, there's a big danger of being the boy who cried wolf.

          There have been trade wars before, the run up to the Great Depression being one example. This isn't that, not yet.

          1. BestUsedCarSales   7 years ago

            I asked you this before. Could you please make explicit what you would consider a trade war. Because we now have one nation putting up tarrifs and another threatening to do so. Your argument is it's too small scale to be meaningful.

            So I ask again. What is your line?

            1. Chipper Morning Baculum   7 years ago

              If a Democrat does it.

              1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

                I don't remember a lot of talk about tariffs when President Obama and Bush imposed some

            2. Cyto   7 years ago

              Trade skirmish?

  22. ThomasD   7 years ago

    The talking points are clearly out:

    Even if the scales were tipped in Hillary's favor, no worries, 'cause she didn't win. But she didn't win because she's the real victim here.

    1. $park? leftist poser   7 years ago

      If I now visit eight other sites and pass your talking points along will I have good luck for the rest of the year? Did some poor girl from Kansas who didn't pass your talking points along die in a car crash?

      1. ThomasD   7 years ago

        Yes, those clearly are my talking points.

        Enjoy your pureed beets. Maybe they'll have bingo this afternoon.

        Just don't piss off your CNA.

        1. $park? leftist poser   7 years ago

          It's generally a good idea to not piss off the network admin.

          1. ThomasD   7 years ago

            The old lady changing your diaper is not a network administrator.

            But, if thinking that makes you feel better, go with it.

            1. $park? leftist poser   7 years ago

              Oh that's right, you're one of those guys. Never mind.

    2. Sevo   7 years ago

      And she broke the law maintaining her own comm system and destroying evidence, but we don't want to keep a criminal from running for POTUS, 'cause it's her turn.
      And the FBI was clearly biased toward her, but they really didn't do too much, so we'll just call them 'insubordinate' and let it slide.

      1. Tony   7 years ago

        FOX News rots brain matter.

        1. NotAnotherSkippy   7 years ago

          RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA

          1. Z565   7 years ago

            It's all Hannity et al discuss.

          2. Tony   7 years ago

            The investigation that's ongoing was not conjured in a Rachel Maddow masturbation session. It's actually happening, unlike The Hague trial of Hillary Clinton you morons all think is imminent just as soon as we rid ourselves of all those partisan Democrats at the FBI.

            1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

              Literally nothing related to your Russia fever dreams have been uncovered. And Maddow is insane now.

              1. loveconstitution1789   7 years ago

                ...now? She has been off her meds for years.

    3. Zeb   7 years ago

      Where is that quotation from?

  23. Crusty Juggler   7 years ago

    Reason's Elizabeth Nolan Brown is getting married today,

    Gross.

  24. Crusty Juggler   7 years ago

    S**t! Horrendous moment freak gust of wind sends portable toilet 100ft into the air as it sprays 'liquid' on screaming crowd below

    1. General Skarr's Prize Petunias   7 years ago

      Fake news, Wikipedia refuses to cite it.

  25. Just Say'n   7 years ago

    Kelly: The IG report was good, Mr. President. It raised a lot of questions and justified your firing of James Comey

    Trump: I don't need anyone to justify what I do. I'm very smart. Many people have told me

    Kelly: Yes, Mr. President

    Trump: I'm going to Tweet about this

    Kelly: For the love of God, please no

    Trump: I'm doing it. I'm going to Tweet about how Comey is scum

    Kelly: Please, Mr. President. You're going to have a good news day. Just leave it be

    Trump: You know, Tom.....may I call you Tom?

    Kelly: My name is John, Mr. President

    Trump: Tom, I have a good brain. Some people don't think that, but they're all just haters and losers

    Kelly: Ok, Mr. President

    Trump: My Tweet is going to be classy. Don't worry about it.

    1. ThomasD   7 years ago

      Curiously plausible.

  26. Crusty Juggler   7 years ago

    Sheriff deputy's teacher wife, 29, accused of performing oral sex on her 14-year-old student appears in court wearing her wedding ring and clutching a Jackie Kennedy biography

    1. Citizen X   7 years ago

      That's how you know she's a Lady.

    2. Just Say'n   7 years ago

      Way to go 14 year-old!

      1. Citizen X   7 years ago

        Where were all these wanton young teachers when i was a lonely 14-year-old? My confidence really could have used that kind of boost.

        1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

          I think any 14 year-old boy would like this kind of confidence boost, especially if there are pics he can share with his friends

      2. Chipper Morning Baculum   7 years ago

        He was bitten by a snake and she was just sucking out the poison, you guys.

  27. Eidde   7 years ago

    I looked up the Georgia campus speech bill, one of those laws the NY Times was so catty about.

    It looks good to me. Which parts of the bill are objectionable?

    (a) The board of regents shall adopt regulations and policies relevant to free speech and
    14 expression on the campuses of state institutions of higher education that address the
    15 following:
    16 (1) To assure that freedom of speech or of the press is protected for all persons;
    17 (2) To foster the discovery, improvement, transmission, and dissemination of knowledge
    18 by means of research, teaching, discussion, and debate of different ideological positions;
    19 (3) Each such institution shall maintain and publish policies addressing content-neutral
    20 time, place, and manner restrictions on expressive activities with the least restrictive
    21 means, in accordance with relevant First Amendment jurisprudence, necessary for
    22 providing use of facilities and resources under the control of the institution to all student
    23 groups and invited speakers, including security and rental fees for such use, to foster the
    18 SB 339/AP
    S. B. 339
    - 2 -
    24 discovery, improvement, transmission, and dissemination of knowledge by means of
    25 research, teaching, discussion, and debate of different ideological positions;

    1. Eidde   7 years ago

      26 (4) To assure that each such institution does not shield students, staff, or individuals on
      27 campus from speech protected by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution,
      28 including ideas and opinions which such students, staff, or individuals on campus find
      29 unwelcoming, disagreeable, or even offensive;
      30 (5) To assure students and faculty are permitted to assemble and engage in spontaneous
      31 expressive activity, as long as such activity is not unlawful and does not disrupt or
      32 interfere with the functioning of the institution or classroom instruction, and complies
      33 with the applicable institution's content-neutral time, place, and manner restrictions;
      34 (6) To assure that each such institution is open to any invited speaker whom a student
      35 group or members of the faculty have invited, provided any such speaker complies with
      36 the applicable institution's content-neutral time, place, and manner restrictions; and
      37 (7) To assure that any student or his or her invitee lawfully present on campus of these
      38 institutions may peacefully protest or demonstrate, provided any such students or invitees
      39 comply with the applicable institution's content-neutral time, place, and manner
      40 restrictions and:
      41 (A) Do not interfere with other previously scheduled events or activities on campus
      42 occurring at the same time; and
      43 (B) Do not prevent professors or other instructors from maintaining order in the
      44 classroom.

      1. Eidde   7 years ago

        45 (b) Subject to notice, hearing, and due process requirements, the board of regents shall
        46 establish a range of disciplinary sanctions for anyone under the jurisdiction of the state
        47 institution of higher learning who is found by his or her conduct to have interfered with the
        48 board of regents' regulations and policies relevant to free speech and expression on the
        49 campus of each such institution.

        1. BestUsedCarSales   7 years ago

          Calm down with the numbered list there, Martin Luther.

  28. lap83   7 years ago

    OT: how do you get rid of a raccoon hanging out in your trash can? I think he's trying to get cool. Heat index will be over 100 today

    1. ThomasD   7 years ago

      I'd say a .410, but depending on where you live that might not go so well for you.

      1. ThomasD   7 years ago

        Larger gauges are equally effective, if more messy.

        1. lap83   7 years ago

          We have a shotgun but hopefully it won't come to that

          1. ThomasD   7 years ago

            Is there a shortage of them in your area?

            1. Zeb   7 years ago

              Are you going to go clean up the can full of raccoon bits?

              1. lap83   7 years ago

                That. Also, I'm not in the country so there are some restrictions on discharging a firearm. I'm not sure the "it was him or me" defense will fly

                1. lap83   7 years ago

                  Happily, he left so I didn't even have to get the hose out.

                  1. Crusty Juggler   7 years ago

                    There won't be any raccoon murder, so I'm not taking my hose out, either.

                2. ThomasD   7 years ago

                  Well, that's why I said .410. No need to clean anything up (assuming you don't miss) you just leave it in there and let the sanitation people do the rest. It won't smell any worse than the three day old chicken carcass.

                  Assuming you get local pick up.

    2. Citizen X   7 years ago

      Spray him with a hose. He'll either leave, or you'll make a friend.

      1. lap83   7 years ago

        Good idea

      2. ThomasD   7 years ago

        Or, you'll need shots.

        The good news is they don't go into the gut anymore.

        The bad news is it costs a small fortune.

    3. Crusty Juggler   7 years ago

      This is why you don't buy a house.

      1. Zeb   7 years ago

        Or maybe it's why you do.

      2. lap83   7 years ago

        I thought you don't buy a house because the pet store gives you such a great deal on renting their dumpster

        1. Citizen X   7 years ago

          He's in the dumpster now? Did the chinchillas finally get sick of him?

    4. Crusty Juggler   7 years ago

      Start day drinking and then go after it with a baseball bat.

      1. Citizen X   7 years ago

        Once, after consuming a Certain Amount of beers, i punched a raccoon in my backyard. This is not a euphemism, or a boast, just a statement of plain fact. I'm not proud of my action, but in my defense the raccoon was being kind of a dick.

        1. lap83   7 years ago

          How much do you charge for your services?

          1. Citizen X   7 years ago

            A Certain Amount of beers.

        2. Crusty Juggler   7 years ago

          Oh yeah? Well, one time I drank so much I knocked four teeth out of the giraffe in my backyard.

          1. Half-Virtue, Half-Vice   7 years ago

            This one is a euphemism.

            1. Citizen X   7 years ago

              "Giraffe" and "backyard" are euphemisms, obviously, but by "teeth" he means actual teeth.

    5. H. Farnham   7 years ago

      If you can get close enough, throw in a chunk of dry ice and put the lid on the can. I'd be careful though, raccoons are pretty vicious when cornered. If he's active in the middle of the day like that, it's possible he's rabid.

  29. General Skarr's Prize Petunias   7 years ago

    Congratulations on getting married, ENB!

    1. Crusty Juggler   7 years ago

      Brown-noser!

  30. Just Say'n   7 years ago

    http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/se.....d=55866351

    Why does the #resistance always sound like Bill Kristol?

    1. ThomasD   7 years ago

      That's gotta hurt. You think you are being all high minded, and principled, and then you find yourself in league with Bill Kristol.

      1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

        .....on almost every issue

  31. Half-Virtue, Half-Vice   7 years ago

    Reason's Elizabeth Nolan Brown is getting married today

    I've lost all reason to live. Congrats I guess, *wipes away a tear*

    1. Crusty Juggler   7 years ago

      Friday weddings are garbage.

  32. Tony   7 years ago

    Trump's campaign chair just jailed.

    Now quick someone tell me how Podesta was the real criminal for his risotto recipe or whatever.

    Are the 90% of you who do nothing here but pathetically apologize for Trump just trying to bore me to death or what?

    1. Cy   7 years ago

      Trump sucks. Just not for the reasons you want him to. Hillary lost. Sorry, Not sorry.

      Do you really want to get into a pissing contest over whose politicians are shittier?

      1. Tony   7 years ago

        No need. Republicans are shittier. Trump is the shittiest. Fact.

        1. Citizen X   7 years ago

          Simple Tony can't conceive of non-binary situations. Sad!

        2. loveconstitution1789   7 years ago

          Tony's "facts" are like what kids consider facts.

          Ah the innocent and naive world of an 8 year old.

    2. Incomprehensible Bitching   7 years ago

      It is truly pathetic how the commentariat goes on and on about Podesta!

    3. $park? leftist poser   7 years ago

      You know they're out to get you when they start throwing your furniture in the slam.

    4. Just Say'n   7 years ago

      You pimped Russia fever dreams because you butt hurt about an election. You made common cause with Bill Kristol.

      To this day no one has been charged with anything related to the bat shut crazy conspiracy theories that you and totally not insane writers here assured us were totally true.

      Congrats on busting people for campaign violations, lying to the FBI about something that isn't illegal, and lobbying work that occurred before the campaign.

      I can tell you're in a healthy place

      1. Tony   7 years ago

        No one has been charged?

        FOX News pickles brains people.

        1. Just Say'n   7 years ago

          Who has been charged with colluding with Russia, Bill Kristol?

        2. Sevo   7 years ago

          "A federal grand jury indicted Manafort and a longtime associate, Konstantin Kilimnik, last week on charges of obstruction of justice and conspiracy to obstruct justice, adding to the multiple felony counts he already faced. The charges do not relate to his work on the Trump campaign or involve allegations of Russian election interference."

          Yep, they got him for something totally unrelated to Trump and our resident shit-bag is creaming his jeans.

          1. Tony   7 years ago

            That's just what you say in a similar situation with an Obama campaign chair, right?

            Or would it be a scandal 10,000,000 times more sinister than Fast and Furious or whatever the fuck?

            Do you even realize how lame you are?

    5. Half-Virtue, Half-Vice   7 years ago

      Trump's campaign chair just jailed.

      Was it made of Ivory?

  33. loveconstitution1789   7 years ago

    Reason's Elizabeth Nolan Brown is getting married today, and the many, many D.C. journalists in attendance at the wedding have been instructed to avoid checking Twitter every five seconds.

    The biggest Cosmo party of the year!

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