Mueller Indicted Concord Catering for Conspiring in the 2016 U.S. Election. But Its Lawyer Says the Company Didn't Exist Then: Reason Roundup
Plus: Judge dismisses lawsuit to legalize prostitution in Utah and tech leaders talk artificial intelligence at the White House.

"The government indicted a proverbial ham sandwich—somebody that didn't exist." Concord Management and Consulting—one of three Russian firms indicted for ties to an alleged "troll farm"—pleaded not guilty yesterday in federal court to one count of conspiracy to defraud the United States. "The court appearance was the first by any of the Russian defendants accused by special counsel Robert Mueller of participating in a covert social media campaign aimed in part at helping Donald Trump defeat Hillary Clinton," notes the Springfield News-Sun.
One of the more interesting moments came when U.S. Magistrate Judge G. Michael Harvey asked Concord's lawyer, Eric Dubelier, whether he was also there on behalf of Concord Catering, another company named—along with the Internet Research Agency and 13 individual defendants—in the indictment. Dubelier said he was only there on behalf of Concord Management and Consulting, not Concord Catering, a company that he claimed didn't exist in 2016.
"The government indicted a proverbial ham sandwich—somebody that didn't exist…at the time period alleged by the government," Dubelier told the court.
He also expressed dismay at a federal prosecutor's revelation that she had seen the formal request, filed with the Treasury Department by his employer (the Pennsylvania-based law firm Reed Smith), for authorization to provide legal services to Concord Management and Concord Catering. The approval that was necessary since both companies have been on the U.S. sanctions list since June 2017. "We now know [prosecutors viewed] a confidential filing of [the Office of Foreign Assets Control], which in and of itself is a disturbing fact," said Dubelier.
Defendant Yevgeny Prigozhin—a 56-year-old Russian restaurateur, co-owner of Concord Management, and member of Vladimir Putin's inner squad—did not appear in court Wednesday.
The feds claim that Prigozhin owns the Internet Research Agency (which allegedly oversaw the illegal U.S. "trolling" labor from to 2014 to 2017), though he denies this. He admits to partial ownership of Concord Catering and Concord Management, neither of which are alleged to have engaged in the online shitposting that the agency did. They were added to the U.S. sanctions list last June because of their link to Prigozhin (who has been on the sanctions list since 2016) and to Mueller's February indictment because the Justice Deparment claims they financed the Internet Research Agency's work.
As to the claim that Concord didn't exist during the last U.S. presidential election: There are myriad old references to Concord Catering in Russian media, and press releases about Concord events and openings in Russia say that it was founded in 1996. It also still seems to be operational today. It's unclear if or when Concord Catering began doing any business in the United States. Searches of Nexis business info, the SEC database, and the National Business Register turn up no results for any company called Concord Catering except a small and unrelated business in Arizona.
Westworld meets White House. The White House is hosting a summit on artificial intelligence today. Officials will meet all day with leaders from IBM, Intel, Microsoft, Facebook, and other companies to discuss ending "barriers to AI innovation" in the U.S. and how AI is changing arenas such as transportation, health care, and farming. Chris Padilla, a senior lobbyist for IBM, tells Axios that when the Office of Science and Technology Policy "set the session up one of the first things they said to me on the phone was, 'We believe in an approach that lets industry innovate and does not have government regulate in a precautionary way.'" (Padilla notes that he is paraphrasing.) The bottom line, says Axios, is that "many of the administration's goals—like limiting regulation—seem in line with what much of the industry wants." Even a broken clock, or something?
Utah man loses lawsuit to legalize prostitution. A lawsuit seeking to legalize prostitution in Utah got shot down by a federal magistrate judge on Wednesday. The case was brought by Russell Greer, a 25-year-old Utah resident who sought to open a brothel in Salt Lake City. State authorities initially granted Greer a license for the establishment, then revoked it. Greer sued, claiming his constitutional rights were being violated by Utah's criminalization of prostitution.
Alas, Judge Dustin Pead disagreed. "At its core, Greer's action stems from an impassioned belief that Nevada's system of regulating prostitution and brothels is superior to Utah's laws criminalizing prostitution," Pead wrote in his decision.
While engaging, Greer's policy based claims do not control and it is not the role of this court 'to weigh the wisdom of the legislation.' Utah's Prostitution and Brothel laws are rationally related to legitimate governmental interests, and any claim that the laws are antiquated and out of line with popular convictions is a policy based argument that is appropriate for consideration by the legislature, not the courts.
The judge noted that Greer "was born with Mobius Syndrome, a neurological condition that causes facial paralysis and prohibits him from closing his lips or moving his eyes sideways." This "causes significant physical and social challenges for him," which led Greer to seek sexual and romantic companionship with sex workers in both Nevada and Utah. Greer said these experiences were "magical" and helped him "cope with his disability and depression."
- Three Americans who were detained by North Korea are now back on U.S. soil.
- Israel has begun bombing Iran-linked targets in Syria.
- The Swiss pharmaceutical company Novartis has told NBC News that it hired lawyer Michael Cohen as a consultant (for a fee of nearly $400,000) after he reached out to them "promising access" to President Trump and his people.
- YouTube says its removal of videos and channels promoting "smart drugs" was an error.
- "Just as sex without consent is rape, kink without consent doesn't exist—that's assault," says Sex with Shakespeare author (and Reason contributor) Jillian Keenan in an AP article about "the kink community" and former New York attorney general Eric Schneiderman (who retired Monday).
- A conservative reckons with his fellow conservatives about their treatment of transgender people.
4th Circuit rules that in light of the immense privacy concerns, forensic searches of electronic devices seized at the border must be justified by individualized suspicion. US v. Kolsuz: https://t.co/8GJcA7PJ3f
— Nate Freed Wessler (@NateWessler) May 9, 2018
- "Mostly what worried and worries me" is that "the group identified as the 'Intellectual Dark Web' appears to be so-identified because they have a lot of opinions," writes academic and author Alice Dreger. "I'm really tired of the valorization of opinions, and I think it is exactly what has gotten us into the mess we are in."
- Flying taxis are the future of Uber travel.
- Federal regulators are cracking down on people who buy crabs with food stamps.
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The government indicted a proverbial ham sandwich...
If they're talking about Trump, they got the ham part right. Am I right, people?
Hello.
Philosophical musing of the day.
If a tree falls in a forest (how it does is for you to imagine), does it make a sound?
Of course it does...don't be a self-centred douche.
Especially if you're deer hunting in heavy snow and it misses you by a few feet, right after you smoked a joint.
lol.
Three Americans who were detained by North Korea are now back on U.S. soil.
Hopefully the president verified their birth certificates before letting them in past the wall.
They were extremely vetted, bigly.
Since they are listed as Americans, your bad joke is VX gassed on arrival.
The Swiss pharmaceutical company Novartis has told NBC News that it hired lawyer Michael Cohen as a consultant (for a fee of nearly $400,000) after he reached out to them "promising access" to President Trump and his people.
Should have created a charitable foundation, genius.
Start mail order LSD again and I'll support you.
Sounds like they paid $400,000 for bupkis. Stupid Swiss.
Just as sex without consent is rape, kink without consent doesn't exist?that's assault...
BUT WHAT IF HIS KINK WAS TO NOT GET CONSENT. Gotcha.
So I have to tell slightly overweight chicks that I am into them because they look fat in that dress.
I guess the world can afford another incel.
Federal regulators are cracking down on people who buy crabs with food stamps.
Finally! Crab is totally not getting them very much bang for your buck.
You paid with food stamps, "what did you expect.... lobster?"
-Michael Scott
But how many food stamp spenders HAVE crabs?
4th Circuit rules that in light of the immense privacy concerns, forensic searches of electronic devices seized at the border must be justified by individualized suspicion.
Uh, just trying to bring a laptop or smartphone into or out of the country is very, very suspicious. Also, my drug sniffing dog totally signaled a hit on that iPad.
But doing that to regular citizens is totes cool?
Citizens shouldn't be checked. Non-citizens can go fuck themselves.
"the group identified as the 'Intellectual Dark Web' appears to be so-identified because they have a lot of opinions," writes academic and author Alice Dreger."
Imagine being so butthurt that the New York Times (of all places) is more open minded than your own publication that you link to a blog mocking the New York Times for being open minded
She's the Chuck Schumer of debate prohibition.
Flying taxis are the future of Uber travel.
Why would I need that when I can just strap on my jetpack?
Or live in virtual reality.
Hey, at least they're being honest in that they're burning money as fast as they can with improbable or impossible technologies! Next, I suspect they will reveal that teleportation is the future of Uber travel!
"The feds claim that Prigozhin owns the Internet Research Agency (which allegedly oversaw the illegal U.S. "trolling" labor from to 2014 to 2017), though he denies this. He admits to partial ownership of Concord Catering and Concord Management, neither of which are alleged to have engaged in the online shitposting that the agency did. "
Online shitposting is a crime?
Rut-Roh!
Westworld meets White House. The White House is hosting a summit on artificial intelligence today.
Hopefully no one resets Melania's Host Attribute Matrix.
The White House is hosting a summit on artificial intelligence today.
Maybe they should host a summit on REAL intelligence first. Ba dum CHHH
If they could find any.
Utah's Prostitution and Brothel laws are rationally related to legitimate governmental interests...
Thankfully that criteria isn't overly broad.
Reason Roundups? I'll settle for this instead of AM/PM links.
You just noticed this? It's been going on for like a month.
This "causes significant physical and social challenges for him,"
Alright, which one of you other commenters is Russell Greer?
Nobody here but Tulpas, Tulpas all the way down.
Je suis Russell Greer.
The correct pluralization is "tulpae."
Incorrect, it is "Tulpapottami"
Citizen X appears to have read a dictionary, but frankly that is pretentious and lexically wrong. In Tibetan the plural is something like sprulpasho, or sprulmasho if female (the 'sp' can sound close enough to a "t" in practice I wouldn't sweat that part) so it is not like we are conserving the actual word. Thus like every normal word entering English it should be Tulpa/Tulpas.
But I strongly suggest you use my data here to correct everyone who uses it wrong, especially the gendered part. A female Tulpa is a Tulma and a collection of them is either a Tulpasho pr Tulmasho. Idiot westen buddhists will be impressed and you might be able to get some money out of them by letting them pay you for a seminar, and just accuse everyone else of cultural appropriation. (Note: if you encounter an actual Tibetan during this process run as the males are surprisingly strong and fast for their size, which incidentally is not particularly small, and the females add to this a reputation for witchcraft)
No bro, it's my name. It's "Tulpapottami"
Trump brings them back alive.
Obama in a body bag.
But he did bring back a deserter alive!
And Obama also didn't even ask Iran to return the Americans they are holding hostage during the JCPOA negotiations. Unless you were a deserter from the Army, Obama really didn't give a fuck if some totalitarian country kidnaped you.
President Obama is a phenomenal player of basketball for a President of the United States, but as a black guy, he's just Okay.
/more tribute to Norm Macdonald
the group identified as the 'Intellectual Dark Web' appears to be so-identified because they have a lot of opinions," writes academic and author Alice Dreger.
That is because having an opinion that totalitarian assholes don't like is what makes one a dissident you fucking half wit.
Bret has the same dietary restrictions as me, so I figured that besides great company, we'd have a campus cafeteria that was gluten- and dairy-free, which would be awesome.
If that doesn't ring an alarm bell, it should. She doesn't eat dairy or gluten, therefore it's natural that nobody else should be allowed the option of eating dairy or gluten. (And she manages to work her gluten-free diet into the article twice.) The whole thing reads like "I think this is a stupid idea because it doesn't do what I think it should do." I wonder if she thinks the same thing about ladders and forks and Ford Mustangs. None of those things advance the cause of rigorous intellectual debate on the internet either.
The world exists to confirm her prejudices and indulge her preferences. Anyone who doesn't want to go along is just a racist and intolerant.
The greater irony of the whole thing is that after she has made all of the food on campus gluten and dairy free and forced everyone to conform to her tastes, she will still consider herself and oppressed minority fighting the forces of oppression in authority. These people can take over everything and put their boot on everyone's face and still tell the fact that they are the ones being oppressed. It is just sick.
Don't forget xenophobe.
If you don't ban gluten you are a goddam xenophobe!
Any half-wit that chooses 'gluten free' food but does not have celiac disease is almost by definition a retard. This whole modern 'gluten sensitivity' bullshit is...well...bullshit. Humanity has been eating primarily grain-based foods for something to the tune of 4000 years. If we're all suddenly becoming sensitive, we might as well prepare to die out as a species. Has Darwinism finally turned against humanity?
http://deadline.com/2018/05/nb.....202379871/
NBC News internal investigation finds "no harassment culture" within the organization. You let one newsreader make his office into a rape dungeon and everyone acts like its a big deal or that your organization has a problem. The nerve of these people.
Ummm, they've got males working there don't they? How can that not be a harassment culture?
Have you seen the newsreaders there?
"Men" is stretching it pretty far.
Remember, Keith Olbermann was an ALPHA DOG over there.
Ham sandwiches are not proverbial.
Kosher ham sandwiches on the other hand...
A deli near me serves something called a "Kosher Style Sub". It is pastrami, cheese, and cold slaw on a sub roll. It is a fine sandwich, but I have yet to figure out what is "Kosher Style" about it.
They showed it to a rabbi and he shrugged?
"Avi Shrugged".
One of my favorite novels.
They ceremonially cut the tip off of the pickle?
Needs moar love
Sounds like a 'Reuben', which sounds Jewish, thus is a 'Kosher style sub'.
We call them 'subs' up here near Boston. Where you posting from, John?
Why don't you just stick to chicken there, General Tso?
You know what a Paul Reuben sandwich is? Customer holds the pickle.
A reuben is made with corned beef, not pastrami, and it's not kosher. Corned beef may be a favorite ingredient in Jewish-American cooking, but if you add cheese, it's definitely not kosher. (Mixing meat and dairy is as big a no-no as pork.)
If the slaw separates the pastrami from the cheese, YHWH is pleased.
I am not much of a scholar of the Torah or one at all, but I am going to go out on a limb here and say that your view is a minority one among those who are.
Okay, maybe not pleased. How about pacified? I mean, YHWH has shown that it can be negotiated with.
Just don't be the first born son of an Egyptian and you should be fine, although I do wonder that god needed blood on the doorways to figure out who worshipped him and who thought he didn't exist.
I guess the Holy Spirit is blind, deaf, and dumb but can still smell blood?
I think cole slaw on a sandwich is southern, so maybe the fact that it is pastrami instead of pork (which goes with cole slaw on a Carolina sandwich) makes it "kosher"?
The "style" part is weird though. Reminds me of when people on toothpaste commercials say that their teeth feel clean. OK, but I want mine to be ACTUALLY clean after I brush
Kosher-style.
Definitely not kosher.
Correct. Nothing with meat and cheese is kosher. A hamburger could be kosher, but only if it's cooked in a kitchen which has never used cheese or any dairy product. A hotdog may be kosher, but serve it with a milk shake, and the whole meal is traif.
The court appearance was the first by any of the Russian defendants accused by special counsel Robert Mueller of participating in a covert social media campaign aimed in part at helping Donald Trump defeat Hillary Clinton...
This may be the dumbest, most unconstitutional thing yet. I can't imagine this going anywhere, even riding the current hysteria.
I suspect we have yet to plumb the depths of how far down this will go, and how stupid it will get.
The legal theory is that a foreign national going on the internet and pretending to be an American and speaking about the election is "committing a fraud upon the United States". They indicted people for sock puppeting. If it is a "fraud against the United States" for a foreign national to sock puppet about the election, I see no reason why it would not be an equal fraud for an American to do the same thing. In both cases, the person is creating a false persona to fool people. There is no meaningful distinction between the two of them. No one in the media has bothered to ask how criminalizing sock puppeting is consistent with the First Amendment because extremism in pursuit of the evil Russkies and Trump is apparently no vice.
"They indicted people for sock puppeting."
I just hope someone pleads guilty and collapses in gales of laughter.
What kind of someone? The sock, the puppet, or the hand?
I am actually surprised Mueller hasn't indicted a puppet. I am sure he is working on it.
What I want to know is, does this mean that voting in the Republican primary as a Democrat to get someone like Trump as the nominee means that they too conspired?
I'm guessing that's not something we really want to talk about as a nation, though.
What about Kermit? He's a frog, right? Sounds pretty illegal.
I think you're misrepresenting the actual legal argument. The argument isn't that it's illegal to sockpuppet on the Internet, the argument is that the firms and individuals indicted violated campaign finance laws, failed to register as foreign agents, and committed identity theft along with immigration, bank, and wire fraud in carrying out their operation. The conspiracy charge is that conspiring to commit these acts constitutes a "conspiracy against the United States."
The first link lays out most of the legal analysis, the second is just a reference for some of the charges that aren't mentioned in the first.
https://tinyurl.com/y8nur9yl
https://tinyurl.com/y9vzsc3z
The identity theft and the bank fraud are crimes in themselves. The problem with saying they "failed to register as a foreign agent" is that that law only applies to people inside the United States. Someone sitting in Russia talking on the internet is not subject to that law. If he were, everyone in the world who spoke about the US election would be subject to prosecution.
And the "conspiracy against the United States" is a conspiracy to corrupt the election by pretending to be someone you are not, i.e. sockpuppeting. People who violate the foreign agent act are never charged with conspiracy against the US. The conspiracy has to have an object not just be a restatement of the crime itself. Here, the object of the "conspiracy" is to influence the US elections by falsely pretending to be someone you are not. If it is a conspiracy and a crime to hire a bunch of people to pretend to be something they are not in order to influence an election, I don't see how it is less of a crime if the people involved are Americans. The result is stil the same, people being fooled into thinking posts they see on the internet are real when they are fake.
The indictments are absurd. And I don't see any way they would ever survive judicial scrutiny for anything other than maybe the wire fraud and identity theft, assuming that actually occured.
Of course.
This makes it blatantly obvious that you're not actually familiar with the charges. You just read something about people posting on the Internet under fake names and leaped to the conclusion that this is all they did and formed the basis for the charges, because it makes Mueller and the investigation look bad. Several of the people charged did in fact enter the United States to carry out their activities, hence the immigration fraud charges, along with the failing to register and illegal expenditures. Actually read the link I gave, people absolutely can be charged with conspiracy against the United States for participation in those crimes.
Several of the people charged did in fact enter the United States to carry out their activities, hence the immigration fraud charges, along with the failing to register and illegal expenditures.
I am aware fo that. But not all of them did. And that doesn't get around the problem of why it is fraud for a foreign national to do something but not an American. Moreover, registering as a foreign agent means you are lobbying the government. By Mueller's logic every foreign national who comments on the election should have to register as a foreign agent.
Set aside your hatred for Trump and just think about it objectively. And explain to me how someone is guilty of immigration fraud because they didn't disclose everything they planned to do here when they entered? If you think these charges are so great, think about how easily they could be applied to other aliens and get back to me.
It is clear you just hate Trump and will buy into anything as long as it damages him. I would ask you to consider the larger consequences of these legal theories. They won't just be applied in cases involving Trump. And that should bother you.
Before I answer the rest of your argument, what does Trump have to do with this argument? Just because the overall special counsel investigation involves him? None of the charges we are talking about here have anything to do with Trump or anyone associated with him, nothing to do with collusion, etc. Instead of accusing everyone who disagrees with you on anything of being blinded by hatred of Trump, maybe consider that you're the one blinded by your support for him.
What specific fraud are you talking about here? The bank/wire/identity fraud would be fraud regardless of who did it. I don't think I need to explain why immigration fraud wouldn't be something an American would worry about, aside from naturalized citizens, who it could still apply to. Campaign finance laws explicitly prohibit expenditures by foreign nationals (exempting dual citizens and permanent residents), Mueller isn't creating some new standard there. And even expenditures by Americans have all sorts of reporting and disclosure requirements.
A foreigner just giving their opinion doesn't have to register as a foreign agent, and never has. If you are working on behalf of a foreign government or entity then you do. Again, that's not some new standard Mueller invented, that's how the law has worked historically.
Why frame it like that? The indictment alleges they obtained visas through giving false and fraudulent information on their visas. Do I really need to explain how that could constitute immigration fraud? Are you saying we should abolish that crime entirely? In any case, I don't see how that would qualify as Mueller drawing up some novel legal argument.
A foreigner just giving their opinion doesn't have to register as a foreign agent, and never has. If you are working on behalf of a foreign government or entity then you do.
No. You can work for a foreign government or a foreign corporation without having to register. What makes you an agent is lobbying the government on behalf of a foreign government. Talking about the election on the internet is not lobbying and has never been covered by the act.
he indictment alleges they obtained visas through giving false and fraudulent information on their visas.
Which was, that they failed to say they were here to sock puppet. The information was all correct. They were not pretending to be someone they were not. That is what immigration fraud is.
These indictments are garbage and they were created so people like you would have talking points. All of the defendants were overseas and Mueller figured he would never have to actually defend them in court. Why indict people you know will never stand trial?
Read the actual statute. Specifically the definition of "Agent of a Foreign Principal." Definition (iv) covers what you say, lobbying - "represents the interests of such foreign principal before any agency or official of the Government of the United States." But that's not the only thing that qualifies. Definition (i) just says "engages within the United States in political activities for or in the interests of such foreign principal."
How could you possibly know all the information was correct? What are you basing that on? Please cite your claim that the only thing the government claims they did wrong on the visas was that they didn't disclose that they'd be commenting on the Internet.
You seem to think the government's argument is that foreigners cannot comment on US political matters on the Internet. That is not at all what they are arguing. They are arguing that they cannot spend money on US political campaigns - such as by buying political ads that call for a candidate's victory or defeat, paying people to campaign for your goal, and paying people to organize rallies (all things the defendants are accused of doing). That's all been law for a long time. If you're Joe Foreigner, you can give your opinion of the election on Facebook, but you can't buy a Facebook ad saying "Elect Trump, defeat Hillary" or hire people to campaign for that. This isn't novel legal ground Mueller is breaking, election and campaign finance laws have said that long before the Trump/Russia investigation was ever a thing.
Link to the FARA statute that I forgot to put in that post.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/22/611
What specific fraud are you talking about here?
The fraud against the United States. Bank fraud is a fraud against the bank not the country. You keep acting like this is some ordinary criminal case. And it is not.
And no the charges don't involve Trump. So why do you think such egregious abuses of the law are okay?
Mueller isn't creating some new standard there.
Yes he is. Immigration fraud is when you claim to be someone you are not or claim to come here on vacation but get a job. It is not coming here and doing something that is not prohibited by the terms of your VISA and failing to inform the government. I don't think you really understand the laws at play here and how badly Mueller is abusing them.
I don't get why this idiocy is compared to McCarthy when it is, clearly, a closer parallel to the Palmer Raids.
Democrats do hysterical overreactions better than anybody.
http://www.cnn.com/2018/05/09/.....index.html
Democratic generic polling advantage for 2018 midterms is nearly gone. In all seriousness, if the Democrats don't retake the House and lose ground in the Senate this fall, I think their base is going to have some kind of collective nervous breakdown. All these people have is the forlorn hope that the Democrats are going to retake Congress this fall impeach Trump and remove him from office. If that doesn't happen and they finally face the reality that Trump isn't going anywhere and has a good chance of being re-elected, some of them are going to go even more nuts than they already are.
Would Russia try to interfere in the midterms? I don't think you can rule it out *gets tinfoil hat ready*
There are Democrats on Twitter with pretty large followings who are claiming Kayne West is working for the Russians. These people are nuts.
What other explanation could there possibly be for an African American celebrity to advocate freedom of thought, approvingly tweet regarding a conservative Aunt Jemima, admit that he's not a Democrat, disavow his earlier criticism of Bush, and get on the MAGA train? It's even rumored that Kanye has listened to Jordan Peterson and quotes Thomas Sowell.
The only possible explanation is that he is a Russian agent. John thinks this theory is "nuts" because he doesn't understand what progressives understand. Progressives understand that African Americans are incapable of independent critical thinking and must be shielded from retrograde influences.
Like Drumphe, Kanye gets his dragon energy from Putin. Putin understands that if he can just peal off just 25% of the African American vote with Kanye, the Democrats are toast. With a pro-Russia Drumphe and a pro-Russia GOP Congress, America will belong to Putin. Impeachment and conviction will be off the table. Even worse, the Drumphe-Putin cabal might even have some success in draining the swamp. It's that serious.
These lefties have been nuts for some time. The writing is just on the wall now.
The only person that would have done more damage to the identity politics of the left is a black/indian trans woman. Lefties would have their heads exploding daily.
Lets be abundantly clear here, if Democrats don't retake the house and impeach Donny you'll probably find someone like John Hinckley Jr. comes out of the woodwork. Thankfully, I was wrong about that during both of Obama's terms but with Trump...it seems like the odd's are higher.
And, for the record, I never wanted Obama to meet a bad end. You can disagree with a political figure without wanting violence to be visited upon them, but after the Republican Congress got shot up I'm really not feeling very good about Trump's chances.
Unfortunately, I suspect the Secret Service has it's work cut out for them for the foreseeable future. Trump might be safer in North Korea than, say, Baltimore at this point.
The progs already had a Hinckley with that guy who tried to assassinate GOP members of Congress at baseball practice.
The Democrats will definitely take the House in November. (Not sure about the Senate.)
Neither Drumpf, nor any other Republican will win the presidency in 2020. It's going to be a Democrat. Drumpf needed Russian hacking and a biased media to "win" once, and even then he lost the popular vote by millions and only won the EC by a few thousand votes in swing states. Given how disastrous his presidency has been by almost any measure, re-election is out of the question.
This is what they think. And if that doesn't happen, they are going to lose their minds. I don't know what the Democratic Party is going to do if it ends up out of power again in 2021 and with a base even crazier and angrier than it is now.
The popular vote is irrelevant. If it mattered, Trump would have campaigned to win it too.
There was no Russian hacking. The only alleged Russian activity was stupid on line posting, just like everyone else in the world does.
The biased media was all in for what's her name, not Trump.
You only need to win the EC by one vote.
Which parts are disastrous? The lower taxes, the lower unemployment, the increase in the stock market, the reduction in regulations, which?
Yeah, well Mr. Smartypants, he's still guilty of being Trump!
Urgent #WarOnWomen update!
#JurassicWorld: Chris Pratt Paid $2 Million More Than Bryce Dallas Howard on Sequel (Report)
The next time one of your conservative in-laws doubts the existence of the patriarchy, male privilege, or the war on women, just mention this. They're starring in the same movie ? they should obviously be getting the same paycheck. But Drumpf's America is such a misogynistic dystopia, such a real world manifestation of The Handmaid's Tale, that even supposedly progressive Hollywood is oppressing women.
#77CentsOnTheDollar
I think one could also blame the patriarchy for the fact that everyone prefers Chris Pratt and no one gives a shit about Bryce Dallas Howard.
Precisely. Being a cis-male, Chris Pratt has had stardom practically handed to him. Bryce Dallas Howard, OTOH, doesn't have that level of privilege. She had to really earn her success.
She has had to struggle everyday with having to credit get famous father for launching her career. Poor girl
Speaking of whom...
Awesome, too bad I don't have Netflix anymore
You've made a huge mistake.
The sexiest gets paid the most. If Lauren Lapkus is in the sequel, and is underpaid then I will agree this is an Injustice.
Who the fuck is Bryce Dallas Howard?
*does a Bing search*
She was probably overpaid.
Ubuntu 18.04 LTS was just released. The LTS means long term service. They're guaranteed to keep updating this version through 2023.
The reviews for this version of Ubuntu Linux have been extremely positive.
http://arstechnica.com/informa.....-in-years/
What's this got to do with libertarianism?
This latest release of one of the best, easiest Linux installations is an engraved invitation to start taking responsibility for your own privacy. Some of the big guys (Apple, Google, Microsoft, et. al) are better than others about abusing your privacy--but they're only good on privacy in comparison to each other. You can choose to go without their software entirely. Guess what? There is little or no need for the government to regulate these companies on privacy when you're perfectly capable of addressing your own privacy concerns through your own consumer choice.
For anyone who tried Linux back in the day, this ain't your Dad's clunky Linux. I was a big fan of Microsoft Outlook--I find I like Evolution better in some ways. You can use Chrome (or un-googled Chromium) or Firefox just like you do in Windows. You can use Steam. You can choose to have the installation install Linux beside your existing Windows installation--so you can boot to either one. You can have the installation encrypt your hard drive as Ubuntu is installed. There's no need to make any sacrifices. You'll probably find yourself with features you wouldn't have otherwise because you installed Ubuntu.
I think a lot of people (especially libertarians) are put off by the "open source" label--as if this were all non-profit. Think of "open source" as being a guarantee of your privacy. Because anybody and everybody can look at the source, they know you're not selling their privacy short. That's pretty much it. Ubuntu, Fedora, and other distributions are actually maintained by for profit companies.
Your privacy is pounding on the door begging to be let in. Open the door. It's Ubuntu. Let him in.
I am all for open source software and God speed the people who loved Linux. But it always struck me as an operating system for people who did things like playing a buggy version of Zork for fun. It always seemed to be a lot of trouble to go to for marginal improvements over commercial operating systems, assuming you were smart enough to get it right. Maybe it is better now.
It seemed that way to me, too--back in 2001.
It simply isn't like that anymore. The only thing I've found that I can't do in Linux these days is use AutoCAD. That's AutoCAD's problem.
And I've found that Linux does some things that Windows simply can't--security and privacy being among them.
It is far, far easier to obtain a reasonable level of security and privacy with Linux. And, as I said, with the exception of AutoCAD, I haven't come across anything I wanted to do but couldn't.
If games are your thing, you can run Steam on Linux. I won't vouch for any particular game, but you can check it out yourself.
http://itsfoss.com/best-linux-games-steam/
Hard drives are so big and memory so cheap, you can partition a computer and run two OS's very easily. I might have to try that sometime. If I don't like it, I can just run windows again and kill the partition.
"Hard drives are so big and memory so cheap"
Not to mention they can host both secure and non-secure servers simultaneously.
My hard drive is big and cheap, ladies.
Something, something... RAM
+256 giggitybytes
I'm gonna write my RAM to your ROM.
Editor's Note: May be a rape joke
I programmed your motherboard last night.
Seek my disk.
I heard your disk was 3.5 inches and floppy, Scarecrow. BOOM
You should see it when it's a hard disk though.
#GrowersNotShowers
The 3.5 inchers weren't nearly as floppy as the 8 inchers. BA DA
Only because of their exoskeleton.
Thus, ewwww, gross!
I'm overclock my CPU every day.
Yeah, you might be able to run Steam but the games that you play through Steam not so much. Yes, some games do in fact work with Linux but...a lot of them don't.
Personally my solution to computer privacy is not to store shit on a computer that can access the internet. An air gap is the most effective way to make sure no one can get to my system. My gaming system, if 'invaded', mean's they now have access to my Battletech saves. I don't think that's what they're looking for.
"The government indicted a proverbial ham sandwich?somebody that didn't exist...at the time period alleged by the government," Dubelier told the court."
Hey, Tony! Really got the goods on Trump now, right?
It was all for show and to provide the media with talking points. They never thought any of the Russians who were indicted would show up to fight back. Well, this guy did and has made them look like the fools they are.
I said this before; Mueller and his team are crooked prosecutors who are adept at bullying people into guilty pleas and framing people who go to trial by withholding evidence. They have no idea how to investigate and prosecute a case where the victims can fight back and the public is paying attention such that it isn't just a media created lynch mob cheering them on. They are going to get their asses handed to them. You watch.
The twit with the Rev. handle asked how many people had been 'caught' by Mueller., figuring no one would reply, since it must be a lot.
Well, you can go right to Vox. We have two guys charged with financial crimes, which crimes, if they did occur, were long before the two had anything to do with Trump.
We have (a claimed) 19 guilty pleas, but they are all of the 'lying to the FBI' sort, and of the ones they did list, some had no connection to Trump at all, and most were low-level volunteers.
And then (drum roll!) we had 13, count 'em 13, indictments against the Russians and those Russian companies!
More than a year and a half of totally open-ended investigation, and this is what he's got to show for it?
I did not get a response from that asshole.
I welcome comparisons of progress of this investigation with that of its predecessors, you bigoted slack-jaw.
I also enjoy your half-educated observations concerning the course of the investigation.
Pres. Trump -- in your wingnut mind, the guiltiest-looking innocent man ever, obsessed by non-existent problems -- seems not to be enjoying this so much.
Perhaps because even his junior-grade legal team has been able to chart for him how this investigation is likely to develop.
When Cohen, Manafort, and Kushner flip -- and maybe a Russian or two, if Putin decides to throw a few flash grenades into this Stooges-style clustermuck -- your analysis should become even more entertaining.
Carry on, clingers. So far as the liberal-libertarian alliance allows you to go, of course.
Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland|5.10.18 @ 12:21PM|#
"I welcome comparisons of progress of this investigation with that of its predecessors, you bigoted slack-jaw."
I find your imbecilic comments amusing, you stinking pile of shit.
I wasn't *MY* observations asshole; it was copied and pasted from Vox. You know, that site with even fewer brain cells than you have.
And, yeah, I'm sure some Russki will "flip" and tell those guys about that un-paid parking ticket and Mueller will try to hang a 'lying to the FBI' charge on Trump.
Fuck off, you pathetic excuse for a human. Your salty tears will continue to comfort all those who watch you squirm for the next three years.
I expect this is akin to the Clinton investigation - what's being investigated is which side has greater power and influence. It'll go away when they finish figuring that out. The public story is on the level with priests explaining last night's thunder was the gods' indigestion after eating our sins.
"California counties join nationwide lawsuit against opioid manufacturers"
[...]
"Legal experts say lawsuits this complex ? involving hundreds of cities and counties and dozens of corporate defendants ? usually end in large settlements."
https://www.sfchronicle.com/business/article
/California-counties-join-nationwide-lawsuit
-12901268.php?cmpid=gsa-sfgate-result
If the taxpayers won't vote new taxes, we'll get the money somewhere else.
Let's allow the lawyers and the state governments to go take a big fat cut out of the drug companies' revenues. That should really do wonders for the price of healthcare in this country.
Drive the price of opioids up! It's much safer for people that need them to simply buy them off of the street.
BRILLIANT!
I seriously question the legality of class action suits. The parties harmed get jack shit out of it. Why would any court go along with this?
The Dotard's idiotic cancellation of the Iran NNP agreement has caused oil to hit 4 year highs. Russia and the Saudis thank him.
Since the idiot has no Plan B we may see $5 gas again soon like during the peak of the Iraq War crisis in 2008.
Speaking of twits, look who showed up.
So do the frackers in North Dakota. We are a net exporter of oil now dipshit. The economy no longer suffers when the price of oil spikes. We don't have to give a shit about the price of oil anymore. And it won't stay very high for very long anyway, as frackers in Canada and the US flood the market in response to the increase in price.
Of course all oil producers benefit, Mr Obvious. The point is that there is a Dotard-Bolton hostility premium building in the price and the USD is falling because of the Dotard's high deficits.
I didn't think he would be stupid enough to go to war with Iran but he is on that track.
The dollar hit a new high for the year yesterday dipshit
http://www.reuters.com/article.....SL8N1SG1TZ
It was over 102 in Obama's final year.
"It was over 102 in Obama's final year."
What does picking cherries pay now? Enough to pay off your bet?
Butt, its always funny because we never get a definite answer when an economy becomes the new president's.
At some point the good economy will have to be the result of Trump's good government policies to roll back government regulation and lower taxes.
Maybe next time there is a market correct that does not become a Great Recession because government does not try and bailout companies.
In anticipation of BO's departure, perhaps?
"...and the USD is falling because of the Dotard's high deficits."
So we'll be able to sell more stuff overseas? Good! Our export volume has fallen off with the rise of the dollar.
So we will use less gas, and cut our carbon footprint. A win !
Right?
The best Middle East policy is the one that leads to the cheapest gas. Nothing could go wrong with that axiom.
Fact checking Trump's lies about the Iran deal:
https://goo.gl/kLEiDv
George W. Trump all over again.
From your link, turd:
"This is unsupported by intelligence and other analyses."
Those aren't facts, they're opinions.
THE FACTS: This is unsupported by intelligence and other analyses. Iran was thought to be only months away from a bomb when the deal came into effect. But during the 15-year life of most provisions of the accord, Iran's capabilities are limited to a level where it cannot produce a bomb.
Already the deal has set its program back. Experts believe if Iran were to leave now, it would need at least a year to build a bomb.
Your little war boner is growing.
Your fantasies never end.
Analysis ain't facts and show me ONCE, anywhere, any time where I backed going to war, you lying piece of shit.
War with Iran is absolutely retarded but the deal was a piece of vainglorious junk pushed by a mediocre person without fricken Congressional approval.
Trump did the Constitution a favor and gave pause for future Presidents to not pull that shit if they don't want their legacies overturned.
Do it 'comme il faut' and get it ratified and it's binding.
Otherwise, don't be surprised if someone comes along and goes 'na-ah'.
Iran wasn't ever going to play ball.
"War with Iran is absolutely retarded but the deal was a piece of vainglorious junk pushed by a mediocre person without fricken Congressional approval."
Have some respect. You're talking about a Nobel Peace Prize recipient.
/OBL
That evil racist Trump just won't admit the glories of sending a billion dollars in untraceable cash to the world's largest state sponsor of terror and allowing its largest proxy to import heroin into the United State. Worst racist ever.
Here, you need some facts too
THE FACTS: It's not true that world powers paid billions to Iran. The deal allowed Iran to regain access to its own money, which had been frozen abroad as part of the sanctions that were lifted. As for Iran specifically getting some cash, that refers to a debt the U.S. had with Iran dating to the rupture in relations in the 1970s. Iran, under the shah, had paid the U.S. some $400 million for military equipment that was never delivered because the Islamic revolution cut off ties.
That money belonged to the Shah's government. It doesn't belong to the Mullahs. They just were not able to loot it.
Why is it your "facts" always turn out to be some lefty spin, turd?
Lefty spin + righty spin = the elusive Hihn's boson
That's a Michael Hihn / quantum mechanics joke right there folks. And they said it couldn't be done.
http://instantrimshot.com/index.php?sound=bomb
*they* were right...
And, yes indeed, let's "get money out of politics", all you lefties!
"Billionaire Soros funding reform-minded district attorney candidates"
[...]
"...Soros is using his money and influence to fix that, Cordell said.
"He's trying to bring in people of color and other candidates who want to change the system," she said."
It's really fine, so long as there's some melanin involved!
I saw a mention of Israel attacking Iran in morning links, but I thought this was the bigger story:
"Israel had been bracing for a retaliatory attack from Syrian territory after a number of deadly strikes against Iranian targets there. But analysts said the Iranians had been restrained from striking back while awaiting President Trump's decision on whether to withdraw the United States from the nuclear agreement with Iran."
http://www.nytimes.com/2018/05.....ttack.html
So, I guess, Iran is throwing a temper tantrum.
Is this the first time Iran has attacked Israel directly rather than through proxies?
Accidentally chopped of the headline:
"Iran Fires Rockets Into Golan Heights From Syria, Israelis Say"
What business of the Iranian-Israeli conflict ours?
For a so-called "libertarian" you sure like to go all Cheney on others.
No more so than the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, but I suspect you believe we should be involved in that, right assclown?
I don't give a fuck about Israel or the Palestinians.
Butt does hate jews, so that checks out.
You need facts too:
THE FACTS: Such unity is conspicuously lacking. Most allies are not in agreement with the U.S. on the threat posed by Iran. They believed the deal was sufficient to constrain the threat; Trump doesn't. Britain, France, Germany and others appealed to the U.S. administration not to withdraw. Among top U.S. allies, Israel agrees the deal fell short; others don't.
Seems like only Bibi the Rat and the Dotard think Iran is threat.
Yep, a "fact" that opinions vary.
It's no wonder you still live with your parents...
My, when France and the UK agree on something, they are NEVER wrong, are they?
"What business of the Iranian-Israeli conflict ours?"
That's a fair question.
Also a fair question:
Why would Iran attack Israel because Trump canceled the Obama deal?
'Cause Trump, for pete's sake! Does Tony have to connect the dots for you?
Iran has no way to project enough military power to threaten Israel short of building a nuclear-armed missile. Iran is in a tight spot. If Israel runs them out of Syria, they are humiliated and lose a lot of credibility with their already pissed off population. If they choose to fight Isreal in Syria, they will end up spending money they don't have and sending men they need to suppress their own population to their deaths at the hands of the Israelis and Americans in Syria.
The claims that Iran was going to dominate Iraq and Syria were always absurd. The US could barely control Iraq, despite spending a trillion dollars and committing by far the most lethal army in the world for 8 years. And Iran and their half ass Revolutionary Guards are going to dominate Iraq and also prop up Assad and Hezbollah? Yeah right.
The Iranians are trying to dissuade our allies from joining in sanctions by making as many waves as possible.
And it's not just our allies. Bibi is making inroads with Putin. We may seen Putin side with Israel on this rather than Iran.
Get to this article via the internet archive:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/at.....1525876793
That may be huge.
In other words, in addition to everything else they're worried about, they're worried about Israel making big inroads with Putin.
Iran and Russia are historic enemies. The only reason Russia supports them is that they like Iran to make problems in the Middle East which drives up the price of oil and because Russia's only ally in the region, Assad is also an ally of Iran and because the Russians make money selling arms and nuclear technology to Iran. If circumstances ever changed such that Russia no longer saw the value in supporting Iran, it would stop doing so. One of the keys to both containing Iran and eventually overthrowing the Mullahs running Iran is to convince or bribe or threaten Russia into no longer supporting them.
Normally you don't get too far into a criminal case until the defendant makes a personal appearance. I don't really understand why a judge would allow a fugitive to challenge anything.
His lawyer made an appearance. And it appears to be a facially invalid indictment. A defendant can send his lawyer to make arguments about the defects in the indictment without submitting himself to the court's jurisdiction. He can't some and try the case without being there. But he can send a lawyer to tell the court things like "the corporate entity that I am alleged to have owned and committed this crime did not exist at the time or the crime".
That's why Mueller is asking for delays which have so far been rejected. He didn't expect them to challenge the indictment since they're never going to be prosecuted. He fucked up
See my post above. Mueller and his team have no idea what to do when a defendant actually can fight back.
Federal regulators are cracking down on people who buy crabs with food stamps.
How about that, dirty hookers will accept food stamps now.
It's a little unsettling that the government is dictating dietary policy to the poor. If you want to eat a hooker so be it.
How much longer before food stamp policy is based upon corporate governance or something stupid like that?
"Mostly what worried and worries me" is that "the group identified as the 'Intellectual Dark Web' appears to be so-identified because they have a lot of opinions," writes academic and author Alice Dreger. "I'm really tired of the valorization of opinions, and I think it is exactly what has gotten us into the mess we are in."
Of course, her point of view is decidedly not an opinion. Which is why we should take this super serious.
It does seem strange that a New York Times opinion writer would write about opinions. As opposed to the factual argumentation employed by someone like Paul Krugman at the NYT
She didn't say she was tired of the valorization of her opinions. That is different.
National Business Register turn up no results for any company called Concord Catering except a small and unrelated business in Arizona.
Arizona in the news!!
The only other news in Arizona: "Myrtle passed away yesterday. It's a shame. 87, she lived to. Beautiful house she and Tom lived in. Now Tom's all alone in that big house"
Get it? Because there are a lot of old people who live there. Dry air is good for the arthritis
Also, old people love to complain about how hot it is.
But still turn the heat on when the weather outside dips below 70
So does my 30 year old fianc?, so maybe it's just a chick thing?
Here's hoping John McCain is next so that Arizona can once again have the full, functional, and legitimate representation she's entitled to have in our constitutional republic.
No shit. McCain is showing how it is, and always has been, about him. Another goddam sociopath with a death grip on his power. Fuck him.
Not Myrtle! I bought my tortilla from her
That was Myrtle's pool boy Paco.
Montana can only dream of that level of news coverage: "A Bigfork man was upset that the U.S. Postal Service had not delivered his mail for three months. Upon further investigation, it turned out the post office just didn't have any mail for the guy."
More evidence that it is truly the last best place.
"9:18 p.m. A bunch of cows and one big bull were blocking traffic near Columbia Falls."
you mean they were "non-violently expressing dissent on Trump's anti-bovine policies" ;
Three Americans who were detained by North Korea are now back on U.S. soil.
At least Trump will get credit for making that happen... or will he?
That National Review article on transgenderism is so naive it's cute. He thinks progressives will be open to some sort of grand compromise to end the conflict over the issue.
The compromise they want is "do what we say and maybe we won't ruin your business/career."
There's a difference between putting up with people's eccentricities (as we expect them to put up with ours) and embodying these eccentricities in public policy. The current "trans debate" is about whether progs will be able to do the latter.
Like the Terminator, the progs absolutely will not stop until the whole country is retarded.
"Conservatism is progressivism driving the speed limit"
- Michael Malice
It is folly to attempt to appease a force bent on conquest and looking forward to the rape and pillage phase.
Color me stunned that an NR writer would opine that the Right should engage in abject surrender on the topic.
Glad to see David French slapping him around for that idiocy.
Change your name? I'll call you by it.
I'm not going to call you a different sex. You cannot change that.
I am finding precious few conservatives who are not lambasting him for it.