NBC Forced to Backtrack on Story About Feds Wiretapping Michael Cohen: Reason Roundup
Plus: More campus madness, and sex robots for all

NBC originally reported that federal authorities had listened in on at least one phone call between Donald Trump and his former attorney, Michael Cohen. If that were true, it would be a potentially game-changing development in the legal fracas involving Trump, Cohen, and porn actress Stormy Daniels.
But the news network had to revise its scoop after three senior officials disputed its account. The feds had merely monitored a log of calls that Cohen made to various people; they had not tapped the calls themselves. According to NBC's corrected story:
The calls are logged by a machine called a pen register, which records the number of the phone that made the call and the number that received it, but does not record the contents of any conversation.
NBC News originally reported that Cohen's phone lines had been wiretapped, meaning a judge had given investigators approval to listen to phone calls. Three senior U.S. officials now dispute that, saying the monitoring of the calls was limited to a log of calls.
At least one phone call between a phone line associated with Cohen and the White House was logged, the person said.
Correction: Earlier today NBC News, and this reporter, said that Michael Cohen's phone lines were wiretapped. 3 Senior U.S. Officials now dispute that, saying the monitoring was limited to a log of calls (pen register) not a wiretap of Cohen's lines. We will continue to report.
— Tom Winter (@Tom_Winter) May 3, 2018
It is much easier for investigators to obtain pen registers than it is for them to obtain wiretaps, which means the story isn't anywhere as explosive as it initially seemed.
Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who recently joined Trump's legal team, has instructed the president never to call Cohen again. Giuliani may have made a colossal mistake of his own, however, in contradicting Trump's story that he never reimbursed Cohen for a payment to Stormy Daniels.
FREE MINDS
A recent free speech event at the University of New Hampshire hosted by Turning Points USA and featuring commentator Dave Rubin went about as well as you might have expected. Protesters formed a blockade in an attempt to prevent attendees from entering the event. One activist, Nooran Alhamdan, argued with Rubin about hate speech, asking: "What will it take to be hate speech, and when will I actually become the victim? When I'm dead?" according to The New Hampshire. Rubin countered that the Supreme Court has never identified or defined a hate speech exception to the First Amendment.
The event proceeded as planned, though hecklers continuously interrupted. These disruptions call to mind recent incidents at CUNY and Duke.
FREE MARKETS
Everybody is still talking about—and to a great degree, profoundly misreading—this Ross Douthat column about incels and "the redistribution of sex" (itself a response to this post by Robin Hanson of George Mason University). As Conor Friedersdorf pointed out on Twitter, Douthat wasn't actually endorsing the thing the column was about:
Internet: Ross Douthat does not call for or believe that there should be a sex right.
Douthat is a traditionalist Catholic conservative. The future he predicted in his column is one he is *deeply opposed to* and huge amounts of his published work can verify that. https://t.co/qN3GCShOn7
— Conor Friedersdorf (@conor64) May 3, 2018
Reason, I should note, is more optimistic than Douthat about the good that sex robots could do.
QUICK HITS
- The younger brother of Parkland shooter Nikolas Cruz has filed suit against several Broward County officials who he claims "tortured" him during a recent jail stint. Zachary Cruz, who was held for driving without a license, says he was effectively punished for his brother's crimes.
- Twitter says that all 336 million users should change their passwords.
- Former Reddit CEO Ellen Pao sent a tweet warning text companies of "incels"—men angry about their inability to find sexual partners—in their midst. She also challenged them to do something about this, though employers asking workers intimate details about their sex lives seems like it could run afoul of anti-harassment law.
- The Kilauea volcano in Hawaii erupts.
- A sex abuse scandal forces the Nobel Prize panel to cancel the 2018 prize for literature.
- The Atlantic held an in-house conversation between Jeffrey Goldberg and Ta-Nehisi Coates about the Kevin Williamson firing. Read it here.
- Justin Amash, international man of mystery:
If I had a dollar for every cryptic Justin Amash tweet about timing I would have at least two dollars pic.twitter.com/VkDwpKKXmA
— Haley Byrd (@byrdinator) May 4, 2018
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Twitter says that all 336 million users should change their passwords.
Even if they use Cyrillic?
Hello.
Rubin now sees what his former side really is like.
They're insane.
A sex abuse scandal forces the Nobel Prize panel to cancel the 2018 prize for literature.
You can't spell laureate without Lauer. Think about it.
I'd rather not.
Fist has a button under his desk that locks his office door, but instead of flopping out his hog he forces trapped coworkers to listen to him rant about Philadelphia, hockey, and Star Trek.
He's a monster.
Fist works from home. Poor Mrs. Fist.
Poor FoE you mean. Her handle is "Fist of Ravishment"
Go on....
Let me just say that's mentioning Star Trek in the same sentence as that "city" is unacceptable and I am done with this thread.
What will it take to be hate speech, and when will I actually become the victim? When I'm dead?
Um...
Everything I know I learned in Kindergarten:
... but words will never hurt me.
Now, we need common sense sticks and stones control for sure.
When you change your name to Shrieking Harridan, we'll look into it.
The calls are logged by a machine called a pen register, which records the number of the phone that made the call and the number that received it, but does not record the contents of any conversation.
The contents of the call are recorded by a different machine, but NBC didn't need to know about that.
I hope it's the machine that goes "Ping".
...or the most expensive machine. In case the administrator comes.
Very few people know: The hospital leases the machine back from the company they sold it to, and that way, it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.
Extra funny because this is a thing real companies do.
Governments also do it when the stupid greedy voters vote down a bond issue for whatever white elephant the government's pushing as an "investment".
Twitter says that all 336 million users should change their passwords.
True fact: 211 million of those passwords are "password."
But they only found one user with the password "bigly"... Ironically that user made 336 million posts.
What are the odds Trump will pay attention and update his password?
Former Reddit CEO Ellen Pao sent a tweet warning text companies of "incels"?men angry about their inability to find sexual partners?in their midst.
Sex robots? On-prem brothels? Masturbation booths? Dating advice?
So now in addition to being qualified men will also have to prove they can get laid if they want a job.
Oh No!!!
And, of course, if they prove they can get laid they are fired for harassment.
Your move, men!
~3rd Wave Feminists
Pao thinks it's unfair they're promoted despite not having sex.
If Pao is so worried about them, maybe she should go find and law a few of them. Then they wouldn't be in sos anymore. Think of the lives she might save.
The problem with incels is that they think their inability to get laid is because women are horrible bitches. And here comes Pao, swooping in, kicking them in the nuts, shrieking that she's not a horrible bitch just because she wants them all fired and their lives destroyed, generally shitting all over the place like a huge bitch. The sad thing is that this strategy of providing exactly the evidence the incels need to prove their case is probably going to work. Irony is lost on the SJW's.
And of course, referring to Pao as "former Reddit CEO Ellen Pao" buries the lede - her current title is "Chief Diversity and Inclusion Officer" at the Kapor Center for Social Impact. George Orwell wasn't making a funny when he named it "The Ministry of Truth", he knew.
Ok, SIV, that was funny.
It was very funny.
Yeah, that's definitely how I interpreted "She also challenged them to do something about this"
It's not like they can stop hiring nerds.
Just tell the female employees to start putting out for the male employees for the good of the company.
Wasn't that the alleged reason for hiring women up until like... 2009?
And the male employees, too. No need to get all cishet shitlord here.
"Former Reddit CEO Ellen Pao sent a tweet warning text companies of "incels"?men angry about their inability to find sexual partners?in their midst."
Where's Henny Youngman or Rodney Dangerfield with the hilarious quip in response to this?
Correction: Earlier today NBC News, and this reporter, said that Michael Cohen's phone lines were wiretapped. 3 Senior U.S. Officials now dispute that, saying the monitoring was limited to a log of calls (pen register) not a wiretap of Cohen's lines. We will continue to report.
...wrongly.
I am really surprised at how sanguine the country is about the FBI raiding the office of the President of the United State's personal attorney. There's so much unprecedented in that sentence, and yet the reaction of the press is somewhere between cheer leading and calling the horse race.
Can you imagine the reaction to such a thing in days gone bye? Even during Watergate, that would have been beyond belief. And if it really is over the Stormy Daniels payoff, I cannot imagine that such a transaction would have triggered such high level FBI attention absent a political motive. Plenty of well known members of the media have paid for silence and managed to avoid having their attorney client privilege violated like that.
I'll add amazement that an "investigation" has continued for more than a year and a half absent a specific charge. This passed from "investigation" to "fishing expedition" long ago.
This passed from "investigation" to "fishing expedition" long ago.
Says you. I'm pretty sure we're well into poorly-written Melville knockoff at this point.
I don't think the country is. I think Democrats, the media and the Never Trump Right are. Republicans and Independents are generally outraged and see the Mueller investigation as hopelessly tainted.
Generally Outraged And Hopelessly Tainted was John's nickname in law school.
That and power chewer.
Yikes. Well, I know who I am not letting give me head.
It is an acquired taste
I thought Generally Outraged And Hopelessly Tainted was a sex act?
It is thus the nickname
So now I have to sit here and think about John hate-fucking someone's taint.... thanks
You knew the risks coming here.
You sure it wasn't General Hopeless Taint?
Ok, I should have scrolled one more inch.
That's what John's victim(s) said.
Hopeless Taint is my secret oral sex move.
I own the copyright on that move. Expect to be hearing from my attorney
In that case, I'm naming mine Helpless Taint. Sounds better anyway.
Meh. Our politicians used to have actual duels.
Trump challenging Mueller to a duel would be awesome.
Pitching Wedges at 50 yards.
I'd actually prefer banjos.
Doesn't work if they're both retards.
BANJOS 4 EVAH!
Pitching wedges would unfairly handicap Trump, he's never used one. It's on the green in one every time.
Trump would turn the dual into a deal, and we know how bigly he wins all those.
The Atlantic held an in-house conversation between Jeffrey Goldberg and Ta-Nehisi Coates about the Kevin Williamson firing.
Next, on a very special The Fifth Column.
Am I supposed to know any of those names?
Not if you are lucky. If you are lucky enough not to know who they are, just count your blessings and move on.
Guffaw! If I had been drinking coffee.....
The Caps are losing their cool.
Who expected them to win twice in a row in Pittsburgh?
The series will go seven games.
True, but two cheap shots for no reason is not a good trend!
It's only gonna get more intense moving forward. Good stuff.
Everyone is saying that the Caps will wilt under the pressure of a must win game five. Maybe but the pressure is no more than it was before game 2 and they did alright then.
Yes, but no headhunters left on the ice to take out opponents. Last year they attempted to decapitate Crosby when stressed out and it didn't work out. This year for Game 2 it was Pittsburgh's most reliable defenseman. But they got greedy in Game 3, wasting a suspension on ZAR, so they're likely back to being quite stressed.
""""they had not tapped the calls themselves""""
They left the wiretapping to the NSA.
It's not even just wiretapping anymore; Zuck and the head of the FBI both have tape over their laptop cameras.
Where's Soave to tell us how 'snowflake conservatives' are just as bad, to be sure, as CUNY left-wing ignoramuses?
He's resting. Posting the Roundup takes a lot out of him.
Why would he do it himself when he knows some helpful commenter will do it for him?
SOAVEFLAKES, ASSEMBLE!
Crusty, I told you to stop playing with Robby's dandruff.
ROBBY DOESN'T HAVE DANDRUFF, YOU ASS. His hair is Perfect.
Something something drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's.
SARWARK REPORTING IN
How do you have time to comment here with your busy schedule of smearing Tom Woods?
I'm not doing any other work am I?
I think Robby has actually gotten a lot better. Now when he writes "to be sure" he adds (lol- nothing matters). It's fun watching Robby's soul being crushed by the utter stupidity of our times
"The Kilauea volcano"
97% of scientists agree that it's caused by to much CO2 in the atmosphere.
I'm sure the actual pronunciation is something like Ki-la-we-ah, but I can only read it in the punniest way possible: The Kill-you Volcano.
She also challenged them to do something about this, though employers asking workers intimate details about their sex lives seems like it could run afoul of anti-harassment law.
Incels are dudes whose personality flaws and unrealistic standards have already combined into a perfect storm of entitled rage. So yeah, calling attention to it as a condition of employment seems like a great idea.
Let's start asking women the same questions.
That's how you really solve the problem. Stock the company fishing hole.
Incels are internet personas.
I think people being strange enough to want to pretend to be incels on the net is a bigger problem than any actual incels.
... for now.
Social pressure and government involvement do a great job of turning harmless malcontents into actual bona fide threats.
Ok, I gotta ask. Besides Longtorso, how many incels do we have among the commentariat?
You just outed yourself by knowing what an "incel" is
Chipper's love life is a horrific shambles, it is known.
I think I'm a volcel right now.
Though if I pursued it, maybe I wouldn't get any and would be an incel. It's safer just to not try.
If married and impotent does it count as incel? Asking for a friend...
/guess who
Gold star to anyone who can suffer through 13,000+ words of The Atlantic's navel gazing. Christ.
Nathaniel Bedford Forrest?
Bing Crosby?
Sherman-Williams?
You owe Sherwin an apology.
Unless this was a Sherman Hemsley, Sherwin-Williams mashup... in which case, you score double.
Ahhhh .... fuck
Jimmy Sturr?
I couldn't read all of that tripe. Coates is so obtuse and boring.
And he's comic stinks.
If he thinks that's because I view him as 'less than human' so be it.
It's not that. He just comes off as a pseudo-thinker.
his
Didn't like Black Panther?
Neither did Marvel's accountants.
He is a full human. he is just a really stupid one.
Of course he is. But I could only get through about 3/5ths of that article.
Stoking racial tensions in America by pretending we're still living in 1950's Alabama is hard work but someone's gotta do it.
Racism is like radon, just because you don't see it doesn't mean it's not deadly.
Rachel Dolezal?
San Francisco isn't gonna get caught in a regulation deficit again!
"SF to transportation startups: Play nice, get permits, share data"
[...]
""I don't even want to speculate what it will be ? dockless jet packs?" said Jeff Hobson, the transportation authority's head of planning."
https://www.sfchronicle.com/business
/article/After-scooter-invasion-is-
San-Francisco-ready-12885947.php
He has no idea what it might be, but it'll get regulated early and often.
When asked if he had anything to drink that night, he didn't lowball his estimate.
"Rolling an ambulance several times indicates a significantly fast speed."
Or parking on a significant slope!
This is Virginia Beach. Aside from a giant pile of garbage, the entire city is as flat as a white girl's ass.
Pancake ass > all other ass.
You got that backwards. If done right, no can defend. All ass become pancake ass.
I'm not judging, merely describing.
Just leave.
Penetrate and absquatulate?
I am not that kind of guy.
Mount Trashmore,
Come for the view.
Stay because you died of methane poisoning.
One activist, Nooran Alhamdan, argued with Rubin about hate speech, asking: "What will it take to be hate speech, and when will I actually become the victim? When I'm dead?"
"Our feminism needs to include the LGBT community. Trans women. All women. Our feminism can't be the 79 cents to a dollar anymore. Our feminism needs to be about revolution to change a sexist society," Alhamdan said.
Sounds like Alhamdan will finally shatter Hillary's glass ceiling.
Look, if you're so fragile that some mean words will literally kill you, i don't think that's even a crime.
"What are you rebelling against?"
"Whaddaya got?"
Sounds like Alhamdan will finally shatter Hillary's glass ceiling
She is Palestinian, so it will probably be with a rock.
If Transwomen are included in feminism, doesn't that basically mean that everyone is already a feminist and any patriarchy you might think you see is merely a figment of your own imagination?
I mean, honestly once you've included biological men...well...what are you fighting for again, exactly?
How Professional Wrestling Is Inspiring Freedom In The Arab Peninsula
People love their wrestling.
"If Ric Flairs don't cross borders, soldiers will"
WOO!!!
"What a country man. Make him humble. Suplex him, put him in the camel clutch, break his back, and then fuck his ass. Make him humble."
-The Iron Shiek
"Khhhhahmble!!"
That guy is a national treasure.
Fine. This is good, healthy in fact. This vindicates free speech without creating martyrs. These protesters will be ridiculed as fools and won't be radicalizing behind bars.
FYI- the "heckler's veto" is not constitutionally protected, nor is it "free speech"
With a Glance Backward, Brooks Brothers Looks to the Future
They must be making bank at their other places.
The Douthat response just illustrates that people are morons and there's no point in engaging them.
The funny thing is that feminists with all of their body affirming bullshit are actually doing for women what Douthat ironically suggested to be done for men. The fat, homely unpleasant broads at places like Jezibel think that any man who refuses to have sex with them is just a sexists. They are effectively demanding sex redistribution for ugly women just like Douthat demands it for nerdy guys. The only difference is the Jezebel chicks actually mean it.
Douthat doesn't demand anything.
I know. He was doing it ironically. I said that. Thought that was clear.
Yeah, I misread.
and then misresponded.
Mr. Arnault had groped Sweden's crown princess, Victoria.
Now THAT takes balls. Frankly, I am impressed.
Me too. Any pervert can grope a stranger. But it takes a special pervert to grope a Queen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQPmxDB04Ps
Veep did it better.
New Jersey 'mystery pooper' was schools chief, say police
Always Sunny did it better.
He is the Pooperintendent.
Good lord.
CNN did it yesterday.
The police determined who it was by first asking the question, "who smelt it?"
As did Vice Principals.
How was the second season? Never got around to it.
I haven't seen it yet either, but i've heard good things.
Army Special Forces Secretly Help Saudis Combat Threat From Yemen Rebels
Nothing wrong with sex robots. But it won't stop the incel rebellion. Why? Because incels don't want sex. They want the social status of having a hot girlfriend. So this talk of sex robots is really a cruel troll on them. Not that they don't deserve it. (Similarly the Good Doctor on ABC is a troll on autistic kids.)
It is worse than that. They want the victim status of being an incel. So giving them a hot girlfriend won't do any good.
Wrong. Nothing angers them more than seeing a couple holding hands. Also, the root problem is autism 'treatment': "There is something wrong with your brain and you will never have normal peer interactions." This is the common thread in ALL these cases. It's a massive troll on these poor kids and needs to stop.
It does seem like something of an investment. Going from whining about not having something to having it is not usually how these things play out.
So just out of curiousity, is an incel someone who isn't getting any or someone who isn't getting any and is mad at the world about it?
The second one. The first one is just called "married."
MAY THE FOURTH BE WITH YOU!
Yeah, so you're an "incel" too apparently
REY IS SO BRAVRE!
Happy Cinco de Quatro!
I think you mean happy Siete de Nueve (7 of 9), and you're either confused thinking this is a Star Trek Voyager thread or you meant to post this in the sex robot thread.
And if you meant the latter, my answer is a firm "yes, please"
Learn about what culture is.
Trump to appoint Belichick to White House Sports Council: report
Literally an epic troll.
He really seems to enjoy inflicting misery on his enemies
But does he drive them before him and hear the lamentations of their women?
Donald Trump says he could launch a SPACE FORCE alongside other branches of the military to fight extraterrestrial wars
Fact: Martian Marines > Earth Marines.
I'm not sure how i feel about Trump being such a yuge fan of The Expanse.
We can't let Iran get the protomolecule.
NO SPOILERS
Martian marines are all criminals. And they're only armed with rocks.
Doom Guy is a fucking hero and I will not sit here and let you slandering his service.
Man, this makes me hope we get to the point of the tech in "Old Man's War". If so, I'll sign up for the Colonial Defense Force in my old age.
Just because FOX News never retracts anything doesn't mean they're not big fat liars.
NBC News originally reported that Cohen's phone lines had been wiretapped, meaning a judge had given investigators approval to listen to phone calls. Three senior U.S. officials now dispute that, saying the monitoring of the calls was limited to a log of calls.
If you read the tweet, it says the same thing - three senior US officials now dispute that. That's not a retraction, a correction or even a clarification, they're merely admitting that there's a we said/they said situation here. Who you gonna believe, NBC's anonymous source or three senior US officials?
Well, going by the standards of the media the past year, we should totally believe the anonymous source.
Fuck twatter. I just got to a place where I had a system of remembering all my passwords. Few things are as frustrating as trying to buy some fucking Gap trousers and not being able to just get into your account. Bring on the biometric dystopia.
Somebody braver or stronger-stomached than me wanna ask him what a gap trouser is?
I thought they were still called chaps?
I will give him credit for 'fucking gap trousers'.
U.S. judge questions special counsel's powers in Manafort case
Good news for the country, but bad news indeed for the Negro Nixon, his cabal of Deep State plumbers, and his minions in the JournoList (including the PFLs here at Reason).
"What will it take to be hate speech, and when will I actually become the victim? When I'm dead?" according to The New Hampshire.
Yes, when words kill you we can call it 'hate speech' I suppose. That makes sense.
"Neil Caputo"
"Cavuto BAILS, with LENGTHY list of the more blatant lies."
"CAPUTO INFECTED BY TDS! (lol)"
If you were worth listening to, you would get that right.
Dumbfuck Hihnsano finally woke up from his prune-juice bender.
People much closer to the issue than Hihn don't refute the swamp and assert that Trump is muddying the waters, which ensures that Hihn's view from 30K feet is crystal clear.
It's like he doesn't even realize how retardedly crazy, "Somebody on the *news* thinks you're guilty, so you must be guilty!" sounds. At least if he yelled at clouds and swung cats around by the tail it would be funny.
Now there is a phrase that leads to an image that I'll never get out of my head.