Wall Street Not Happy About Trump Tariff Plan, Le Pen Charged for Tweeting ISIS Images, Ben Carson Tries to Return Furniture: P.M. Links

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  The Dow Jones Industrial Average plunged after President Donald Trump announced the United States will establish new tariffs on steel and aluminum imports.

• A Massachusetts man has been charged with sending a threatening letter with white powder in it to Donald Trump Jr. and sending additional threatening letters to others, including Democratic Michigan Sen. Debbie Stabenow and actor Antonio Sabato Jr., who is running for Congress in California as a Republican.
• French prosecutors are charging right-wing nationalist political leader Marine Le Pen with "distribution of violent images" for tweeting pictures in 2015 showing violent executions by the Islamic State, She is not pro-ISIS, obviously. She was attempting to illustrate that the French government isn't doing enough to protect citizens.
• Related: The European Union is considering a rule that would require social media platform to remove "terrorist-related material" within an hour of being notified. Yeah, that's going to end up getting abused a lot.
• Ford has selected Miami as a test site for its self-driving vehicle fleet, prompting all sorts of "jokes" about how it will make driving safer there.
• Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson is now trying to cancel the $31,000 dining room furniture order that got him all sorts of bad publicity.

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[Fist of Etiquette]

The Dow Jones Industrial Average plunged after President Donald Trump announced the United States will establish new tariffs on steel and aluminum imports.

YOU DON'T KNOW THAT'S WHAT DID IT.

[Citizen X - #6]

But it tickles my biases!

[Chipper Morning Baculum]

You keep your biases in your underwear where they belong.

[loveconstitution1789]

That chick wears underwear with dick holes in 'em.

[BYODB]

Well, it can only really go in two directions. Throughout history, the best oracles are the binary ones. That's mostly because you hedge your bets with a 50/50.

I think when people coined the saying 'markets have spoken' people got confused and thought the market was actually making pronouncements.

Not to say it couldn't be true that this is the reason, but it seems unlikely any particular daily average of up or down has any particular relation to steel or aluminum tariffs. A finer data set of averages among industries could prove telling, but is DOW purely a manufacturing market?

[Citizen X - #6]

Similarly, people tend to talk about the "invisible hand" as if it were some sort of conspiracy or top-down guided action, rather than a metaphor for the sum of everybody's decisions. It's the most democratic thing there is.

[mad.casual]

Similarly, people tend to talk about the "invisible hand" as if it were some sort of conspiracy or top-down guided action, rather than a metaphor for the sum of everybody's decisions.

When you put it that way, the difference between an unseen hand and an invisible hand is so obvious it's a wonder more people don't see it.

[Chipper Morning Baculum]

Throughout history, the best oracles were unassuming old black ladies.

[loveconstitution1789]

High on the weed.

[Chipper Morning Baculum]

High on potenuse.

[Scarecrow Repair & Chippering]

Larry Ellison has never produced an even good Oracle, let alone a "best" one.

[Conchfritters]

+1 Mother Abigail

[Murray Rothtard]

Umm... Actually we clearly do know that's what did it. The domestic steel companies soared, ask the customers of steel got crushed. That's what tariffs do by definition. If the entire market was down, we could kinda pretend it's something else. But this was totally logical winners and losers from tariffs.

You can pretend tariffs don't do any of that if you'd like. But what the stock market is saying is that the vast majority of people who can vote with their money understand that that's how tariffs work.

[Ship of Theseus]

This is correct.

[MarkLastname]

I'm fairly certain First agrees, and was being satirical.

[Fist of Etiquette]

A Massachusetts man has been charged with sending a threatening letter with white powder in it to Donald Trump Jr. and sending additional threatening letters to others, including Democratic Michigan Sen. Debbie Stabenow and actor Antonio Sabato Jr., who is running for Congress in California as a Republican.

Equal opportunity corn starch enthusiast.

[The Last American Hero]

So it was really just a protest against corn subsidies?

[Citizen X - #6]

A Massachusetts man has been charged with sending a threatening letter with white powder in it to Donald Trump Jr. and sending additional threatening letters to others, including Democratic Michigan Sen. Debbie Stabenow and actor Antonio Sabato Jr., who is running for Congress in California as a Republican.

Leave Antonio Sabato Jr. alone!

[Fist of Etiquette]

She was attempting to illustrate that the French government isn't doing enough to protect citizens.

And the government responded.

[DiegoF]

Wow. Turns out Macron was the one to "lock her up," and the poor woman didn't even get a warning during the campaign. Speak softly and carry a big stick, Trump. Watch and learn from the master.

[The Last American Hero]

How's he gonna carry a big stick with those tiny little hands?

[LarryA]

Trump has people to carry his stick.

[Citizen X - #6]

For has selected Miami as a test site for its self-driving vehicle fleet, prompting all sorts of "jokes" about how it will make driving safer there.

Sure, until all the cars get stolen and either chopped or pushed into Biscayne Bay.

[BYODB]

I predict that in a year the program will have been 'put on hold' after some little reported accidents.

[Unicorn Abattoir]

Will the cars be programmed to drive off if a sheriff's deputy cowers behind it?

[sharmota4zeb]

Ahhhh, driverless cars programmed by the industry that gave us those automated phone trees.

[Scarecrow Repair & Chippering]

I wonder what the fix or repair duty cycle is, if not daily.

[gaoxiaen]

They'll be found on roadside dead.

[LarryA]

They'll go right where Google Map tells them to.

[MarkLastname]

Fictional roads into the Atlantic Ocean?

[Fist of Etiquette]

The European Union is considering a rule that would require social media platform to remove "terrorist-related material" within an hour of being notified.

The Brexiters are kicking themselves right now.

[DiegoF]

Pss. Like the British Parliament ever saw a speech restriction, surveillance expansion, or security measure they didn't like. You don't need Brussels to do anything for you you can do yourself. Fuck, given EU bureaucracy they might beat them to it.

[Citizen X - #6]

Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson is now trying to cancel the $31,000 dining room furniture order that got him all sorts of bad publicity.

It's nice when a bureaucrat is responsive for once.

[Chipper Morning Baculum]

Only because he found out that the actual Last Supper table has just been listed on ebay.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson is now trying to cancel the $31,000 dining room furniture order that got him all sorts of bad publicity.

Alternately he could choose not to stiff the maker and pay for it himself.

[Stormy Dragon]

Alternately he could choose not to stiff the maker and pay for it himself.

That would be against administration policy.

[Jerryskids]

As I understand it, his wife was the one picking out the furniture so maybe she could pay for it. I don't know what Carson's net worth is and I'm sure he can afford a nicer table than me ($75 bucks at a yard sale) but 31k is about 10 times what a "nice" table ought to run. Isn't this a good object lesson in Milton Friedman's 4 ways to spend money?

[BigT]

Booze, sex, drugs.....but what was number 4?

[Unlabelable MJGreen]

Scott's alt-text is a mouthful.

[Citizen X - #6]

Alt-alt-text: "But i have this whole pyramid full of grain, where am i supposed to eat it?"

[Entropy Drehmaschine Void]

He is making up for Britches.

Thank you, Mr. Schnacklfurt.

[BYODB]

?French prosecutors are charging right-wing nationalist political leader Marine Le Pen with "distribution of violent images" for tweeting pictures in 2015 showing violent executions by the Islamic State, She is not pro-ISIS, obviously. She was attempting to illustrate that the French government isn't doing enough to protect citizens.

That moment when the truth is subversive.

[Tony]

Because Marine Le Pen is against ISIS unlike all the rest of us pro-ISIS people.

[BYODB]

I was referring to the irony, but you might not be smart enough to get irony.

She was attempting to illustrate that the French government isn't doing enough to protect citizens.

And, to show the people how well they're protecting their citizens from terrorists they shut down the speech of those who say otherwise!

After all, what says 'we beat the terrorists' more than shutting down free speech? (And yes, I'm aware it's France and not the United States.)

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

After all, what says 'we beat the terrorists' more than shutting down free speech?

Proving you're tolerant of differing opinions by firing any employee that disagrees.

[Brian]

Nobody wants to take your free speech away.

[NotAnotherSkippy]

They just want it to keep the guns company for a while.

[The Last American Hero]

Well, the Lightworker was all about giving out weapons to anybody who was anti-Assad, and that included a bunch of guys in, you guessed, ISIS.

[Chipper Morning Baculum]

Looks like the scimitar was...

[dons ski giggles]

mightier than Le Pen.

[skies off]

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

ski giggles? Is that when you wipe out and hit your...

*dons snowboard goggles*

funny bone?

[Fist of Etiquette]

For[d] has selected Miami as a test site for its self-driving vehicle fleet, prompting all sorts of "jokes" about how it will make driving safer there.

If Skynet cab can make it there, it can make it anywhere.

[Jerryskids]

Is HUD going to return all the billions of dollars it's spent turning cities into shitholes?

[loveconstitution1789]

Yeah, that's like giving blacks reparations for slavery.

[buybuydandavis]

When are we going to bill them from liberating them from slavery?

That's what the majority of the country did, after all.

[Crusty Juggler]

Defining generations: Where Millennials end and post-Millennials begin

In order to keep the Millennial generation analytically meaningful, and to begin looking at what might be unique about the next cohort, Pew Research Center will use 1996 as the last birth year for Millennials for our future work. Anyone born between 1981 and 1996 (ages 22-37 in 2018) will be considered a Millennial, and anyone born from 1997 onward will be part of a new generation. Since the oldest among this rising generation are just turning 21 this year, and most are still in their teens, we think it's too early to give them a name ? though The New York Times asked readers to take a stab ? and we look forward to watching as conversations among researchers, the media and the public help a name for this generation take shape. In the meantime, we will simply call them "post-Millennials" until a common nomenclature takes hold.

tfw u just became what you hate

[Citizen X - #6]

Oh fuck, i'm a millennial now? Christ on a pony, i did not need this today.

[Chipper Morning Baculum]

[points]

Haaaa-ha!

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Every comment you enter screams "snowflake".

[sharmota4zeb]

Christ on a pony!? Did he trade in his ass?

[Scarecrow Repair & Chippering]

Yeh, and we got Trump.

[Stormy Dragon]

I think 9/11 is a good cutoff:

1981 - 2001 = Millenial
2001 - = Homeland generation

[Stormy Dragon]

It's a good cutoff, because people born after 9/11 grew up in a completely different country than those before.

[Crusty Juggler]

Say what you will about Stormy, but he never forgets.

[Chipper Morning Baculum]

He's like an elephant, in more ways than one.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

She... she's like an elephant.

[Chipper Morning Baculum]

Stormy is a girl? Oh boy, is my face red. Sorry, Stormy.

[Stormy Dragon]

I'm an occluded front.

[BYODB]

I'll actually agree with you on that one Stormy. The country today isn't recognizable from when I was a kid in the eighties. Post-2001 kids ask me the most bizarre questions about that era, then I realize it's because they don't even remember a time without the Brownshirts.

[sharmota4zeb]

Yeah, I remember meeting people at the gate at the airport.

[Stormy Dragon]

I should note I'm a proponent of the Strauss?Howe generational theory, and the term "Homeland Generation" comes from them.

[SusanM]

Oh, come on, Firefly wasn't that popular...

[A Thinking Mind]

You take that back.

[Bubba Jones]

I think it's safe to say that people born in 1996 don't remember what life was like before 9/11.

[Unlabelable MJGreen]

1996 has been my cut off for a while. There are people around me who weren't alive when Independence Day came out? smh

[DiegoF]

That's why when my kid was born I punched him in the fuckin face and said "Welcome to earth!"

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Pew Research Center will use 1996 as the last birth year for Millennials for our future work

The science is settled?

[DenverJ]

Meh, at my age they're all punk kids who need to get the hell off of my lawn!

[TLBD]

we think it's too early to give them a name ? though The New York Times asked readers to take a stab

Generation Tide-Pod?

[Unicorn Abattoir]

Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson is now trying to cancel the $31,000 dining room furniture order that got him all sorts of bad publicity.

Wow, IKEA has gotten expensive!

[Tony]

Trump hired Ben Carson because he thought he looked like one of the poors who live in public housing. He was totally off-message with this.

[Citizen X - #6]

So you assume that everybody in public housing is black? That's pretty racist, Tony.

[Tony]

Yeah Trump is pretty racist. It's not like Carson was hired because of all his experience in the sector.

[Citizen X - #6]

Citizen X - #6|3.1.18 @ 4:49PM|#

So you assume that everybody in public housing is black? That's pretty racist, Tony.

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Tony|3.1.18 @ 4:50PM|#

Yeah

Heh.

[BYODB]

If it wasn't for projection, people like Tony might never find a way to show their true colors!

[Chipper Morning Baculum]

From now on, it's "admitted racist Tony."

[The Last American Hero]

That's a promotion from "admitted pro-slavery Tony".

[Robespierre Josef Stalin Pot]

Hey Tony, You're being called a racist because you think Trump appointed Carson to be HUD Secretary because he's Black. That must sting.

These SJWs on Reason really know how to hurt someone.

[sharmota4zeb]

Ummm Urban planning started with attempts to eliminate disease, and Carson has an MD.

[Rebel Scum]

Proggies are the most racist people I know, despite constantly preaching anti-racism.

[Tony]

What an original thought and definitely not part of the racist cousinfucking list of talking points.

[sharmota4zeb]

Cousin fucking is rare in the USA. We have some of the strictest incest taboos on the planet. Fortunately, the National Institute of Health has a 2012 article about consanguineous marriages that says:

Consanguinity is a deeply rooted social trend among one-fifth of the world population mostly residing in the Middle East, West Asia and North Africa, as well as among emigrants from these communities now residing in North America, Europe and Australia.

I knew that all those hours watching Arab porn would come in useful one of these days.

[sharmota4zeb]

In related news, New Jersey hands the Governor's Mansion to the Democrats after former Governor Christie signs a bill to outlaw bestiality.

[Tony]

Trump supporters already brag about not responding to polls, so you do the math.

[Bubba Jones]

Kinda like how Hollywood has been preaching against misogyny and sexual harassment for years?

[buybuydandavis]

"one of the poors"

Limousine socialists can't go 10 seconds without a tell

[Rebel Scum]

The Dow Jones Industrial Average plunged after President Donald Trump announced the United States will establish new tariffs

Duh. I hope SOMEONE in the admin. learns from this and corrects his position.

[Stormy Dragon]

No, he'll get mad at wall street and lash out with them while doubling down on the tariff.

Expect lots of tweets about how international corporations are. Bonus points when some of them are vaguely anti-semetic, followed by a news cycle about how ridiculous it is to accuse Trump of being anti-semetic.

[Rebel Scum]

Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson is now trying to cancel the $31,000 dining room furniture order that got him all sorts of bad publicity.

Always tryna keep a brotha down.

[Robespierre Josef Stalin Pot]

Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson is now trying to cancel the $31,000 dining room furniture order that got him all sorts of bad publicity.

He's probably keeping the picture of him and his Jesus pal though, right?

[Brian]

Why you gotta be so racist, hater?

[DiegoF]

No one is trying to take your furniture.

[Scarecrow Repair & Chippering]

If you like your furniture, you can keep your furniture.

I guess he just doesn't like his furniture.

[Robespierre Josef Stalin Pot]

I'll just admit it. I'm prejudiced against weirdo Prosperity Gospel Jesus freaks. So there. Get over it.

[Brian]

Say what you will about Ben Carson, at least he's not a communist. He's got that going for him.

[Robespierre Josef Stalin Pot]

some government employee just ordered a $31,000 desk and Trump's fanboys want to talk about Marxism. Pathetic.

[Brian]

As a real libertarian, I find government spending abhorrent.

What your problem is, I have no idea. As a Marxist, would it make you feel better if he tried to nationalize a furniture manufacturer, or something?

[Robespierre Josef Stalin Pot]

Why don't you stick to the subject? I'm interested in your take on how a government employee bought a $31,000 desk. We can discuss Bakunin when the afternoon links bring him up, ok?

[Brian]

Geesh: aren't we a control freak.

Who died and gave you ownership of the conversation, Mr. "Everyone Owns Everything Equally And Some Shit"?

[Robespierre Josef Stalin Pot]

some government employee just ordered a $31,000 desk and Trump's fanboys want to talk about Marxism. Pathetic.

[Brian]

Marxist wants to talk about Big Bad Government to the tune of $31k.

Convenient.

[Robespierre Josef Stalin Pot]

You sound like every dumb bureaucrat who justifies her waste by pointing out how little it costs compared to the size of the whole budget. What's a real libertarian anyway? Someone who supports Trump's 700billion dollar defense budgets? What's happened to you, man. You sick?

[Brian]

As a real libertarian, I find Trump's government spending completely repulsive.

Still, better than communism. What your problem with it is, I have no idea. Needs more SJW?

[DenverJ]

Huh. Couldn't be because he made millions as a world renown brain surgeon, and millions more from 6 best selling books.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

The black man tries to get ahead and this is how we treat him.

[Entropy Drehmaschine Void]

Prolly a Black Jesus, tho.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

You know who else is in trouble for foreign meddling in an election?

[DiegoF]

Fun fact: The Australian Labor Party is spelled that way, unlike any similarly monikered parties in the Commonwealth, because it is named specifically for the American labor movement, not for the concept of work in general. So they are just paying back a bit. (Also, Australia itself has accused New Zealand Labour of meddling in its own elections.)

[Entropy Drehmaschine Void]

Barack Hussein Obama for meddling in Israeli Elections?

[Conchfritters]

Not the CIA

[DenverJ]

Hitler?

[mad.casual]

Haeckez!

[DenverJ]

Ford has a "d" at the end of it.

[Juice]

You know who else had a D in the end?

[Robespierre Josef Stalin Pot]

French prosecutors are charging right-wing nationalist political leader Marine Le Pen with "distribution of violent images" for tweeting pictures in 2015 showing violent executions by the Islamic State

I'd be with this guy--> The notion that we are gonna be able to corral, that we're gonna be able to contain, what's said and what's not on the internet is unachievable and contrary to the values of an open society that both the United States and Great Britain and most of the advanced world adheres to." He advocated against "a world in which the state is making the decisions about who says what.... but it turns out that according to libertarian wackadoos Barack Obama is a National Socialist Black Power voodoo worshipper.

Libertarians have destroyed all my heroes-- except for one, Donald Trump. He's still ok.

[NotAnotherSkippy]

The same Obama who had a guy arrested over a movie ridiculing muslims? The same Obama who sicced the FBI on Rosen and recorded other reporters' conversations? That Obama?

I can see why he's your hero...

[Robespierre Josef Stalin Pot]

I've turned over a new leaf. My new hero is Donald Trump because I want to support ICE and there mission to ethnically cleanse America.

[NotAnotherSkippy]

I think you're confused. Louis Farrakhan and Keith Ellison aren't Donald trump.

[loveconstitution1789]

If only all the murdering socialists had deported people instead of kill them.

[NotAnotherSkippy]

The children of the UK will never know snow again:

National Grid has warned that the UK would not have enough gas to meet public demand on Thursday, as temperatures plummeted and imports were affected by outages.

How are all those solar panels working under all that snow? Inquiring minds want to know.

[DenverJ]

Fun fact: Ben Carson's parents married when his dad was 28 and his mother was 13.

[Inigo Montoya]

French prosecutors are charging right-wing nationalist political leader Marine Le Pen with "distribution of violent images"

I hope somebody warns Quentin Tarantino to never set foot in France!

[buybuydandavis]

"French prosecutors are charging right-wing nationalist political leader Marine Le Pen with "distribution of violent images" for tweeting pictures in 2015 showing violent executions by the Islamic State, She is not pro-ISIS, obviously. She was attempting to illustrate that the French government isn't doing enough to protect citizens."

Shithole country

[Hank Phillips]

The Le Pen story is funny. Frogs call conservative mystical bigots (except Mohammedan berserkers) AND classical liberals/libertarians "le Far Right". Since Quiet Days in Vichy the French have circled their wagons and declare all non-communists (except German Econazis) "un sangue impur." Next I suppose they'll shut down their reactors and become another Puerto Rico. That's a shame...

[Robespierre Josef Stalin Pot]

Why are we in a shooting war with another nuclear superpower. Dumb. maybe you could ask the leader of your favorite boy band, Le Trumpis Digitales, why he's risking an apocalyptic war with Russia over a country with a shitty Leader, who isn't remotely on the list of national security threats. Jesus Christ, if Obama was doing this you guys would be doing shit cartwheels.

NYTimes:Dozens of Russians Are Believed Killed in U.S.-Backed Syria Attack

[NotAnotherSkippy]

So about that whole RUSSIA collusion thing... And since you clearly didn't read the article it was actually the RUSSIANS who attacked.

Much about the attack and the associated casualties has been obscured in the fog of war. For reasons that remain unclear, Syrian government troops and some Russian nationals appear to have attacked a coalition position, near Al Tabiyeh, Syria.

At no point, an American military spokesman said, was there any chance of direct conflict between United States and Russian forces.

"The 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because the Cold War's been over for 20 years." - Your hero.

[mad.casual]

And since you clearly didn't read the article it was actually the RUSSIANS who attacked.

Also, Russians and Syrians backed by the US in Syria is a proxy war not a shooting war.

[GamerFromJump]

Where's the vitriol for congresscritters getting 2 million dollars for their offices?

[Sanjuro Tsubaki]

Trump is dumbass. And that prolly means he'll secure the dumbass vote.