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A.M. Links: Trump White House 'Freaking Out' Over Mueller Investigation, Russian-Backed Facebook Content Viewed by 126 Million Americans, Happy Halloween

Damon Root | 10.31.2017 9:00 AM

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    "Everyone is freaking out." How the Trump White House reportedly reacted to yesterday's indictments of Paul Manafort and Rick Gates.

  • "Mr. Mueller almost certainly knows more than he is willing to reveal at this stage."
  • According to Facebook, Russian-backed content was viewed by an estimated 126 million Americans on Facebook during the 2016 election.
  • President Trump is expected to name Jerome Powell as the next chair of the Federal Reserve today.
  • Defense Secretary Jim Mattis says that "a new AUMF is not legally required to address the continuing threat" of terrorism.
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Damon Root is a senior editor at Reason and the author of A Glorious Liberty: Frederick Douglass and the Fight for an Antislavery Constitution (Potomac Books).

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  1. Bee Tagger   8 years ago

    "Everyone is freaking out."

    How is that different looking?

    1. Rufus The Monocled   8 years ago

      Hello.

      Freaking out is the new pink and norm pal.

    2. Rhywun   8 years ago

      Whoever's running the site this morning should be freaking out.

      1. Domestic Dissident   8 years ago

        The DuPont Circle office is busy celebrating Halloween by pretending to be libertarians.

        Whoops, hold on a second, that's not Halloween, that's just a normal, regular day.

    3. Don't look at me.   8 years ago

      Everyone is freaking out."
      To get back to the warning that I received. You may take it with however many grains of salt that you wish. That the brown acid that is circulating around us isn't too good. It is suggested that you stay away from that. Of course it's your own trip. So be my guest, but please be advised that there is a warning on that one, ok?"

  2. Fist of Etiquette   8 years ago

    "Everyone is freaking out." How the Trump White House reportedly reacted to yesterday's indictments of Paul Manafort and Rick Gates.

    No Drama Trump finally becoming unglued???

  3. Bee Tagger   8 years ago

    Defense Secretary Jim Mattis says that "a new AUMF is not legally required to address the continuing threat" of terrorism.

    It's unfortunately true when there's no functional congress.

  4. Fist of Etiquette   8 years ago

    I say we boycott Hit & Run until they fix the site once and for all. WHO'S WITH ME?

    1. Chipper Morning Truthjammer   8 years ago

      Do you mean "go on a strike"?

  5. Palin's Buttplug   8 years ago

    According to Facebook, Russian-backed content was viewed by an estimated 126 million Americans on Facebook during the 2016 election.

    PIZZAGATE IS PROOF CLINTONS CORRUPT!

    1. loveconstitution1789   8 years ago

      Clinton admitted in public that she mishandled classified information and that should be enough to indict her with a grand jury just like Mueller did to Manafort.

      Trump is allowing this to proceed because he knows he's clean and this will lead to Hillary's crimes being exposed. This time no Comey to protect her nor Obama to pardon her.

      Its "n"th D Chess. I look forward to you finally just collecting your own tears. I cannot even imagine what you will do when Trump wins reelection in 2020.

  6. Fist of Etiquette   8 years ago

    According to Facebook, Russian-backed content was viewed by an estimated 126 million Americans on Facebook during the 2016 election.

    The exact same amount of people who attended the inauguration. Coincidence?

    1. Chipper Morning Truthjammer   8 years ago

      Do you know who else was obsessed with Russian-backed content?

      1. chemjeff   8 years ago

        Her?

      2. CE   8 years ago

        Hitler?

    2. BYODB   8 years ago

      But how many sock puppets saw those ad's? Inquiring minds want to know!

      1. MarkLastname   8 years ago

        Jokes on them. It was just a hundred million Russian sock puppets viewing and repeating each other's propaganda to each other.

    3. Austrian Anarchy   8 years ago

      According to Facebook, Russian-backed content was viewed by an estimated 126 million Americans on Facebook during the 2016 election.

      Advertise with Facebook. $100,000 will get your message to 126 million voters in exactly the right places. Imagine what you could do with a $1m buy?

      Yes media, keep this advertising campaign going.

  7. Libertarian   8 years ago

    126 million Americans saw Russian Facebook entries. Millions were so disgusted that they didn't even vote. Poor Hillary.

    1. mashed potatoes   8 years ago

      yeah, i don't really get this. if these ads were so ubiquitous, show us one and we will obviously remember it to get a sense of what they are talking about. i also get rather suspicious with terms like russia-backed.

      1. Cyto   8 years ago

        I can guarantee that there is zero chance that Russia-backed advertising swayed the election.

        Clinton and the Democrats outspent Trump 2:1. Another million or two from Russia isn't even a drop in the bucket.

        Nobody voted for Hillary because 8 years of Obama was disappointing at best and Hillary is execrable as a candidate. So bad that even Donald Trump could defeat her. Even with a 2:1 money lead. Even with unanimous and unflinching support from the news media. Even with a big chunk of the Republican establishment pulling for her.

        That's how bad she was as a candidate, according to the American electorate. Big money donors backed Clinton. From USA Today

        [Trump's] long-shot bid also was fueled by small donors.Contributions of $200 or less accounted for about 64% of his total donations from others. By contrast, about 26% of Clinton's donations through Oct. 19 came in amounts that small.

        Why? Why did hedge fund magnate Tom Steyer spend $60 million of his own money to push voters to Clinton and the Democrats? Because these rich guys are so nice?

        Or maybe because the super-wealthy all thought they'd get more of their money's worth out of Clinton.

        1. NotAnotherSkippy   8 years ago

          Or maybe because the super-wealthy all thought they'd get more of their money's worth out of Clinton.

          Well the Russians sure did.

      2. Griffin3   8 years ago

        They all go like "I made $89381 last month working from my Mom's basement!"

    2. CE   8 years ago

      I was exposed to one million times more pro-Hillary TV ads, yard signs, bumper stickers and radio ads than anything on Facebook for anyone. And still I avoided voting for her.

      1. Austrian Anarchy   8 years ago

        Ditto.

      2. Austrian Anarchy   8 years ago

        Where I work, looking at ANY internet site with any sort of advertising resulting in seeing a Clinton ad. I work in a leftie government building, so I suspect those IP addresses were tagged for her commie shit.

    3. Austrian Anarchy   8 years ago

      Hey man, if Hillary said this is what lost her the election it must be. What are you, some sort of misogynist? If Hillary could have done it to Bernie it would have saved her a lot of money to do great things. /leftard retort

  8. Fist of Etiquette   8 years ago

    "Mr. Mueller almost certainly knows more than he is willing to reveal at this stage."

    But fortunately he has plenty of leakers to handle that for him.

  9. Bee Tagger   8 years ago

    Happy Halloween! Here's a selection of Reason's best writing on zombies, vampires, ghosts, and other eldritch horrors.

    Horrors like when Lucy left?

  10. Citizen X - #6   8 years ago

    According to Facebook, Russian-backed content was viewed by an estimated 126 million Americans on Facebook during the 2016 election.

    Do mail-order bride and AK-47 purveyors count?

    1. Chipper Morning Truthjammer   8 years ago

      Boy, there is a dilemma for a libertarian, huh?

      1. CE   8 years ago

        Which to order first?

  11. Bee Tagger   8 years ago

    According to Facebook, Russian-backed content was viewed by an estimated 126 million Americans on Facebook during the 2016 election.

    Considering 139 million people voted, I'm more enraged that 13 million voters don't have facebook accounts.

    1. Griffin3   8 years ago

      We are all Russian-backed bots down here on Facebook.

  12. Libertarian   8 years ago

    The "platforms" of Facebook and Twitter are more important than the platforms of the 2 major parties.

  13. Citizen X - #6   8 years ago

    According to Facebook, Russian-backed content was viewed by an estimated 126 million Americans on Facebook during the 2016 election.

    People who believe this matters are actually revealing their own deep disdain for, and mistrust of, basically all other people. It's a pretty fucked up way to think about society.

    1. Mitsima   8 years ago

      *shrugs* Sometimes, you've got to accept that sheople are going to sheep.

    2. Ron   8 years ago

      considering Facebook also reported that the Russians only spent $100k in advertising I'd say Facebook has inflated the numbers greatly or you get great coverage for your money with Facebook.

    3. Eek Barba Durkle   8 years ago

      People who believe it is true, as stated, are gullible as hell.

      I believe that there may have been 126 million total views of this content, in the same sense that ads are viewed trillions of times per day on Facebook.

      But there is NO way - zero, zip, zilch - that the ads from the Russians were viewed by 126 million Americans. Simply impossible.

      If Putin reached 126 million America with $100k of Facebook ads, he pulled off what is - by several orders of magnitude - the greatest advertising campaign in human history.

      1. BYODB   8 years ago


        If Putin reached 126 million America with $100k of Facebook ads, he pulled off what is - by several orders of magnitude - the greatest advertising campaign in human history.

        P.T. Barnum is indeed jealous.

  14. Conchfritters   8 years ago

    "Mr. Mueller almost certainly knows more than he is willing to reveal at this stage."

    Is he aware that his former crime lab fucked up hair analysis in hundreds of capital murder cases over decades? Does he know that the FBI had a serial killer as an undercover agent on his watch? Oh, he certainly knows more.

    1. Citizen X - #6   8 years ago

      Shady Government Agency Is Shady; Film At [is hauled into a windowless black van which then peels out]

      1. Chipper Morning Truthjammer   8 years ago

        Crusty got a new van!

    2. Roger the Shrubber   8 years ago

      FBI had a serial killer as an undercover agent

      Link?

      1. Conchfritters   8 years ago

        Google: "Whitey Bulger" and you might find one or two links.

      2. Conchfritters   8 years ago

        Sorry, paid informant.

  15. John   8 years ago

    The voice of God himself says Hillary should be in jail.

    http://yournewswire.com/morgan.....l-hillary/

    When you have lost Morgan Freeman...

    1. Palin's Buttplug   8 years ago

      fake wingnut news

      https://goo.gl/PBMQxx

      1. John   8 years ago

        You are the expert on lying. So I will defer to your expertise.

        1. Palin's Buttplug   8 years ago

          You are Mr Gullible. Fake news was made for you morons to disseminate.

          1. Sevo   8 years ago

            Turd, did you ever pay your bet? Still apologizing for rapists?

      2. Rhywun   8 years ago

        Cool. I can lose all respect for him again.

        1. John   8 years ago

          There is that.

      3. MarkLastname   8 years ago

        I got an ad from "Walmart" telling me I won an iPhone. Thanks.

  16. Jerryskids   8 years ago

    According to Facebook, Russian-backed content was viewed by an estimated 126 million Americans on Facebook during the 2016 election.

    It would be nice to have some context here. Like for example, how many people viewed Canadian-backed content? And what's the conversion rate between Canadian and Russian and American? (I'm pretty sure Canada uses the metric system, do the Russians still use the potato system?)

    1. John   8 years ago

      Yes. And just what was that content. If the content was true, then what difference does it make? To me, anyone, even a foreign power, propegating true information is not a problem. I want an informed electorate and I don't see why the source of truthful information matters. If a candidate is a crook, I want to know and the fact that the Russians or anyone else told me of this fact doesn't give the candidate a free pass. A problem only arises when a foreign power puts out disinformation for the purpose of affecting an election. I have yet to see any evidence the Russians or anyone else did that.

      1. Rhywun   8 years ago

        The English press for one are a lot more honest about American politics than the American press, that's for sure.

        1. John   8 years ago

          That is a good example. Is the fact that the Daily Fail will cover stories that are embarassing to Democrats that the mainstream US media won't cover the UK interfering with US elections? If not, then how is a Russian media outlet doing the same Russia interferring with our elections? I don't see how and I don't see how it being a state owned media outlet makes any difference. The information is the same in both cases.

          1. Hank Stamper   8 years ago

            I don't see how it being a state owned media outlet makes any difference.

            Yeah I love the BBC...oh wait sorry you were talking about Russian state owned media, they're evil.

            /sarc

            1. John   8 years ago

              Good point.

          2. Ron   8 years ago

            excellent point John does RT being on satalite TV mean that the Russians are interfering or just giving us a different viewpoint of the same info and if its all lies that some think should be outlawed then all news will have to be outlawed based on what I've seen from the main stream press.

            I only fear those who claim to know the Truth

          3. TrickyVic (old school)   8 years ago

            It's necessary to promote the narrative to make it sound like American's can't think for themselves. We are all brainless robots which Russia could easily sway with an social media ad campaign.

      2. Mike Laursen   8 years ago

        If the Russians helped leak embarrassing DNC emails, I consider that a legitimate act of journalism. If that's what we're talking about here, we should be thanking them for it.

        What I don't understand is why the Democratic Party wouldn't want to let that whole matter drop.

        1. Rhywun   8 years ago

          This. A lot of them seem to actually be under the delusion that they're "clean". Perhaps decades of cover from the press and the deep state have left them open to a surprise or two.

        2. TrickyVic (old school)   8 years ago

          ""What I don't understand is why the Democratic Party wouldn't want to let that whole matter drop."'

          When your God has been usurped, you must scream your injustice to the sky.

      3. mad.casual   8 years ago

        A problem only arises when a foreign power puts out disinformation for the purpose of affecting an election.

        Even then, IMO, there's a very big question (or a very emphatic "Nothing!") with regard to the question of "What should Congress and/or the DOJ do about it?"

        Lying about politics on Facebook is, arguably, protected free speech. You may have a point if the direct posters are agents of the Russian Government but there's plenty of proof for lots of these grassroots social movements that there were plenty of useful American Idiots involved. There may be a question of how knowing/culpable the idiots are of fraud/defamation.

        Unless the Russians have figured out how to use Facebook to rob people of their agency and take control of their motor functions, Congress needs to do little. If they have, they need to declare a state of emergency.

        1. BestUsedCarSales   8 years ago

          This is what we really need to focus on. A lot of us are thinking in terms of the Russian stuff affecting the elections. That was the narrative so far, but I think it's shifting. On the way to work this morning I listened to the radio and the entire argument about Russian meddling was about how this means we need to regulate Facebook/Google/Twitter.

          One of the guys made a comment about how he was thus advocating government regulation of free speech. The guy's response? "We are the government in America" and that "55% of Americans believe that Facebook should be censored in some way." I was disgusted. The first guy started just shitting down his throat but the second guy wouldn't budge.

          So we need to watch out. This isn't about Hillary, this is becoming about regulating the internet. And that is a bigger danger than the near 0 likelihood of her ascending at this point.

  17. John   8 years ago

    http://www.mediaite.com/column.....predators/

    Virginia governor's race turns ugly with ad depicting Republicans as racist predators. Remember folks, Trump saying mean things on twitter demeaned the standards of public discourse in this country. The claim by the political and media elite that Trump was somehow more vulgar or represented some kind of degrading of the public discourse has to be the biggest piece of hypocrtical bullshit I have ever seen.

  18. Tom Bombadil   8 years ago

    "Mr. Mueller almost certainly knows more than he is willing to reveal at this stage."

    No shit, Sherlock. There are 3 possibilities:
    1. Mueller knows less than he is willing to reveal (either impossible or he is making shit up)
    2. Mueller is revealing exactly everything he knows. (unlikely)
    3. Mueller knows more than he is willing to reveal. (duh)

  19. Domestic Dissident   8 years ago

    The America-despising cultural Marxist Block Yomommatards who constantly claim there's no such thing as a slippery slope and they would never go after George Washington have now started going after George Washington.

    1. Tom Bombadil   8 years ago

      The flag will be soon. The 13 stripes represent the original 13 states, many of which were "slave" states. Therefore it is a symbol celebrating slavery. Demands will be made to design a new flag with no reference to the nation's origins. I predict a rainbow with LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ stenciled at the bottom.

      1. Rhywun   8 years ago

        I think a plain white flag is what we'll get. And it will be apt.

        1. Chipper Morning Truthjammer   8 years ago

          Problematic!

        2. Tom Bombadil   8 years ago

          Good call.

        3. Don't look at me.   8 years ago

          It worked for the Beatles, but not today.

        4. lap83   8 years ago

          ooh, very European. I like it

        5. MarkLastname   8 years ago

          White?!! What are you a KKK member?

          No, it will be a plain transparent flag. Basically a sheet of Saran wrap.

      2. Citizen X - #6   8 years ago

        It can't be a rainbow flag, because that's cultural appropriation.

        1. Rhywun   8 years ago

          TL;DR - "We're not gay!"

      3. CE   8 years ago

        The flag will be soon. The 13 stripes represent the original 13 states, many of which were "slave" states. Therefore it is a symbol celebrating slavery.

        And secession. So the Stars and Stripes is basically the Stars and Bars.

      4. ace_m82   8 years ago

        My flag:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBxn9MqMOcE

    2. John   8 years ago

      It is funny how the ignorant idiots in the media slammed Trump for making the common sense observation that once this stuff starts, there is no stopping it. Iconoclasm is one of the most dangerous things that can get lose in a society. Once you start tearing down graven images, it is very difficult to stop because someone can find something wrong with any image. There are a couple of centuries worth of Byzantine art that is almost entirely lost to history because of the Eastern Church suffered a bout of iconoclasm. There are literally less than a dozen pieces of surviving Byzantine art from the seventh and eighth centuries, if I remember correctly.

      1. Rhywun   8 years ago

        Meanwhile we're renaming bridges with perfectly-good, neutral names after... this person I've never heard of. If I were more motivated, and if I thought it had a chance in hell of succeeding, I would consider digging up some dirt on the guy to stop it. Nobody is perfect, right?

        1. mad.casual   8 years ago

          this person I've never heard of.

          You should just call it the Henry Rollins bridge and be done with it.

          1. Rhywun   8 years ago

            That was my first thought. I'm sure his backstory is impeccable, too.

      2. chemjeff   8 years ago

        GOOD. The Founding Fathers were great men, but they were also MEN. As in, flawed human beings. Not gods. Not superheroes. We need less reverential worship of other human beings, not more. If we're going to erect statues and monuments, let's create them to celebrate ideas and values, not historical figures.

        1. John   8 years ago

          In other words, let's engage in iconoclasm and tear down all of the graven images. I am not sure I have ever seen a point go over someone's head quit as obvisouly as my point just went over yours.

          Jesus fucking Christ, you just argued for tearing down every statue of any historical figure and replacing them with "monuments to ideas" whatever the hell that means. That is called being dangerously stupid.

        2. Ron   8 years ago

          those historical figures enshrined those celebrated ideas in the forming of this country. something worth acknowledging.

        3. BestUsedCarSales   8 years ago

          We need less reverential worship of other human beings, not more

          I completely agree. One thing that is fueling this rage is an unfortunate belief that these people should be perfect, and when they are found to be less than certain people react with a berzerker's rage. We need to understand that all men are imperfect, and that greatness does not require perfection.

          If we're going to erect statues and monuments, let's create them to celebrate ideas and values, not historical figures.

          Ideas and values are as flawed as humans as they are made by us. One thing I might stand for is less government monument making period, leave it to individuals to do it. But they can be people and they can be ideas or whatever.

          1. Ron   8 years ago

            most monuments are privately funded and the governments give them permission to install them on government lands

            1. BestUsedCarSales   8 years ago

              Good, and we should also remove the government lands. That being said, I'm not particularly worked up about this. I express an ideal above, but my feelings on it are pretty unintense.

        4. CE   8 years ago

          How long before they tear down the statue of liberty then? Liberty means people are free to fail, and free to criticize each other. It's got to go.

      3. CE   8 years ago

        There are literally less than a dozen pieces of surviving Byzantine art from the seventh and eighth centuries, if I remember correctly.

        Just how old ARE you?

        1. BestUsedCarSales   8 years ago

          Old enough that he can just barely remember whispers of the fallen civilization that produced Hihn.

    3. Palin's Buttplug   8 years ago

      Fake poutrage, Mikey.

      No one is going after Washington. You're making shit up again.

      (some retard on the street corner is like you Mikey. They don't count.)

      1. Sevo   8 years ago

        Pay your bet yet, turd? Still apologizing for rapists?

      2. John   8 years ago

        Which part of "take down this commemorative plaque" do you not understand? I know you are stupid and generally illiterate but I would think even someone with your low IQ could understand that sentence.

        1. Palin's Buttplug   8 years ago

          (some retard on the street corner is like you Mikey. They don't count.)

          You can't read.

          1. John   8 years ago

            They are taking down the plaque at his church. But go ahead and claim they are not. It makes for good comedy.

      3. Domestic Dissident   8 years ago

        Uhh, anyone who reads the story can see that you're lying as usual, douchebag Dave Weigel.

    4. BYODB   8 years ago

      Uh, well, yeah. I think we all saw that one coming. As a matter of fact, that was the first thing most of us said when they started tearing down monuments.

    5. CE   8 years ago

      They laughed when we said it was only a matter of time. It's been months not years.

  20. Palin's Buttplug   8 years ago

    GOP tax plan will explode deficit: Wharton study
    BY NIV ELIS - 10/30/17 01:27 PM EDT

    http://thehill.com/policy/fina.....rton-study

    1. John   8 years ago

      If they are not careful, they will add more debt in 8 years than the country had previously in its entire history before that. Oh yeah, Obama already did that and you didn't give a shit and still suck his cock every day on here.

      Shut the fuck up Shreek. Stop pretending you care about running up debt.

      1. Palin's Buttplug   8 years ago

        Obama inherited a $1.2 trillion deficit and left with a $480 billion one. The Con Man will take us back to trillion dollar deficits.

        1. John   8 years ago

          No he didn't. We have had this conversation a million times. Obama could have stopped TARP and undid everything Bush did, and chose not to do so. He also was in the Senate and voted in favor of all of that debt.

          So either stop sucking his cock or admit you don't give a shit about the deficit.

          1. Tony   8 years ago

            Admit that you pretend to give a shit about the deficit but only when people with a certain letter after their names are in power.

            1. Fuck =><= sevo   8 years ago

              Why are you and the idiot rape denier talking about the deficit when john clearly typed "debt"?

            2. MarkLastname   8 years ago

              I'd love nothing more than for the GOP to finance their tax cuts with equivalent spending cuts, believevme. Would be even better if they cut spending by more than taxes.

          2. TrickyVic (old school)   8 years ago

            ""Obama inherited a $1.2 trillion deficit and left with a $480 billion one""

            Democrats were in control of the purse for the 1.2 Trillion deficit. Republicans were in control of the purse for 480 Billion.

            Not that either side is good when it comes to limited spending.

      2. jcw   8 years ago

        I guess as long as everybody is doing it, I'm okay with it.

        1. John   8 years ago

          No. If you had a problem with Obama doing it, then you should have a problem with the Republicans doing it. But if you cheered Obama doing it, you can't now came to care just becuase the wrong side is doing it. You completely miss the point.

    2. Don't look at me.   8 years ago

      Pfft. Numbers on a piece of paper. No big.

    3. guy who doesn't care   8 years ago

      "Wharton study"

      don't care

      1. CE   8 years ago

        Didn't Trump go to Wharton?

  21. Rebel Scum   8 years ago

    Team Blue quadruples down.

  22. Rebel Scum   8 years ago

    According to Facebook, Russian-backed content was viewed by an estimated 126 million Americans on Facebook during the 2016 election.

    And?

    1. Sevo   8 years ago

      "And?"
      And therefore, the hag lost!
      Jeeze...

  23. Jerryskids   8 years ago

    Defense Secretary Jim Mattis says that "a new AUMF is not legally required to address the continuing threat" of terrorism.

    I saw Tim Kaine on CNN making the argument that the AUMF certainly does need re-visiting as it's basically a blank check for the president to wage endless war wherever and whenever he pleases and presidents simply shouldn't have that sort of power. I didn't bother doing a google search to see if he'd ever made this argument before with previous presidents. Or maybe just one of the previous two presidents.

    1. John   8 years ago

      I think Article 2 and the President's duties as Commander and Chief are a blank check for the President to deal with immediate threats to the country's security wherever they are found. That is not a blank check to wage state on state war. But if there is some clown or group of clowns that are not affiliated with a nation state who are a threat to US citizens, the President has the power to whack them, provided that the country where said clowns are found is okay with the violation of its sovereignty of the US doing it or if the clowns are found in a place like Syria or parts of Yemen that are effectively stateless.

      1. BYODB   8 years ago


        ...provided that the country where said clowns are found is okay with the violation of its sovereignty of the US doing it or if the clowns are found in a place like Syria or parts of Yemen that are effectively stateless.

        The 'effectively stateless' exception would render the whole thing effectively moot as a limitation though.

        1. John   8 years ago

          I don't see how. Most of the world is under some kind of functioning and recognized government.

          1. BYODB   8 years ago

            Because the words 'effectively stateless' is a subjective statement.

            Just as a simple example one could point to virtually the entire continent of Africa as 'effectively stateless' by a lot of people's measure.

            I'm sure you had something more exact in mind, but as stated that would be a terrible metric.

  24. Sevo   8 years ago

    Maybe a book deal is falling apart?
    "Inconsistencies Cast Doubt On Tale Of 2 Women Claiming They Were Lost At Sea"
    [...]
    "Two Hawaii women who say they were lost at sea never activated their emergency beacon, the U.S. Coast Guard said, adding to a growing list of inconsistencies that cast doubt on this harrowing tale of survival."
    http://philadelphia.cbslocal.c.....ve-at-sea/

    1. lap83   8 years ago

      It was the men with whom they started the journey who refused to activate it and accept help. So they ate them

    2. Tom Bombadil   8 years ago

      Bro, do you even Hukilau?

    3. Ron   8 years ago

      they did look fairly healthy for being at sea for four months

  25. Ken Shultz   8 years ago

    "We have to fight propaganda and crackpot conspiracy theories"

    John McCain, October 30, 2017 in reference to Donald Trump.

    ----The Hill

    https://tinyurl.com/ya5mv524

    December 9, 2016: The date John McCain delivers the pissgate dossier to James Comey, head of the FBI.

  26. Ron   8 years ago

    Russian backed adds may have appeared on 126 million viewer accounts but that doesn't mean anyone paid attention to them

    1. Ken Shultz   8 years ago

      I used to not pay attention, until I followed a link from this site that said so and so's wife makes $4,385 a day working from home.

      1. Ron   8 years ago

        well theres one, anecdotal though

      2. TrickyVic (old school)   8 years ago

        Is that in rubles?

      3. Ken Shultz   8 years ago

        Have you guys seriously never seen the spam here saying that you can earn $3,287 a week working from home?

        1. Ron   8 years ago

          do you not get our sarcasm to your sarcasm

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