War on Terror

Rand Paul Throws Incredible Shade At Lindsey Graham for Being a Warmonger

What kind of cheerleader for war doesn't know how many troops are where?

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Rand Paul unloaded on Lindsey Graham today, in the way that only Twitter in the Trump Era can:

His comment was in reaction to the senior senator from South Carolina's stunning, but perhaps unsurprising, admission that Graham didn't know the U.S. had more than 1,000 troops in Niger in the war on terror.

Douglas Graham/Roll Call Photos/Newscom

If only he were a Reason reader, he might!

Paul's broadside is a substantive and stark reminder of how much the war on terror has transformed U.S. military policy and how far the Republican party has drifted from the heady days of 2013, when a veritable "civil war" seemed about to break out over non-interventionism's place in conservative philosophy.

Paul is absolutely right: the U.S. military is engaged in counter-terrorism operations, fighting too many wars in too many places around the world. And the almost complete lack of interest in a substantive engagement of foreign policy in the mainstream political debate compounds the problem.

Despite a U.S. military presence across West and Central Africa as well as Somalia, the only African country mentioned in any of the presidential debates was Libya, the site of one of the Obama administration's greatest foreign policy blunders, borne of needless interventionism.

Barack Obama eventually admitted the haphazard nature of the intervention was his administration's "worst mistake." Notably, Hillary Clinton, his first secretary of state and the 2016 Democratic presidential nominee, avoided drawing any lessons or admitting any mistakes.

Earlier this month, when news of the U.S. fatalities in Niger first broke, I predicted the U.S. war in West Africa would quickly recede from the public consciousness again. But for President Trump botching public and private remarks about the dead soldiers, it probably would have.

Before the election, I suggested Trump might be a less alarming candidate than Clinton because "at least with Trump you might have a Congress motivated to reassert its powers vis-a-vis the executive branch."

Paul and the other members of Congress skeptical of America's never-ending war on terror and string of aimless interventions have an opportunity to use Trump's clumsiness over the Niger deaths to expose the country's unchecked and—judging from Graham's reaction—largely unknown nature of this ever-expanding war.

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  1. Well done Ed and thank you Rand.

  2. We’re fighting a global war on terror, the war takes us where it takes us, for as long as it takes us, and our duty is to follow, no questions asked. So why are you asking questions? Do you want the terrorists to win or the war on terrorists to win?

    1. If only there were a song with lyrics appropriate to your comments….

      https://youtu.be/EvoVI8r8hZw

      1. +1 Dar Williams

        1. She’s why you should never let your politics pick your music. Been following her since she was playing in Borders bookstores, seen her live many times.

          1. One of her songs was in the movie Smoke Signals, right? Lovely and melancholic. Road Buddy. Great movie too.

    2. Because we believe in causality not duty.

    3. Is this a joke? My duty is to not ask questions and let the government do whatever it wants? Are you high? Or are you being sarcastic?

  3. I predicted the U.S. war in West Africa would quickly recede from the public consciousness again. But for President Trump botching public and private remarks about the dead soldiers, it probably would have.

    MAGA

    Fake news Ed* has NO FUTURE on the 9th dimensional chess beat.

    (* M.S. COLUMBIA)

    1. The 9th dimension is an infinitesimally small area of space folded onto itself. So rather quite analogous to Trump’s brain I quite agree.

      1. If you’re smarter than Trump, why aren’t you rich?

        -jcr

        1. His personality keeps getting in the way.

  4. How have I not been banned again yet?

    1. Introduce yourself to the group and start commenting and let’s see what happens.

    2. What on God’s earth do you have to say at Reason to get banned?

      1. Ed,

        The link you provided for Senator Graham does not seem to be functioning.

        1. My apologies to Ed and Tony – my comment was for the author of the article and I mis-posted it.

          1. Fake News Ed flunked hyperlinking at Columbia

            1. Fake News Ed flunked hyperlinking at Columbia

              In Ed’s defense, I have it upon good authority that Ed and his ancestors did not flunk flanks, like did.

      2. “What on God’s earth do you have to say at Reason to get banned?”
        He was constantly posting inanities and insults, so was the person reported for spam. Even spambot never got banned.

        1. He was constantly posting inanities and insults

          So then why hasn’t Tony been banned?

  5. Before the election, I suggested Trump might be a less alarming candidate than Clinton because “at least with Trump you might have a Congress motivated to reassert its powers vis-a-vis the executive branch.”

    That’s a really bad motivation to believe something (he’ll be so bad that countervailing forces will make everything better). Also, if Congress turned out Republican with President Hillary, it would be as exhaustive as you like with respect to her powers.

    Also, they’re going to let the war on terra continue as-is without talking about it as long as the people don’t give a shit, which they don’t.

    1. After the election, I was relieved that the hag (and you) lost.
      There is a lot to dislike about Trump, and I don’t have to compile a list; the lefty press does so every day.
      They ignore, however his successes: DeVos, Pruit, Gorsuch, the slow-down of the regulatory state, and others, not to mention keeping you and every other lefty idiot jumping around like your ass is on fire.
      It’s simply a pleasure watching losers demonstrate they are barely adolescent as they stamp their feet and hold their breath!

      1. And I just wandered on to this:
        “Trump is reportedly talking about Supreme Court justices’ health issues, privately predicting he’ll be able to appoint 4”
        […]
        “President Donald Trump has already appointed one Supreme Court justice, and he is reportedly telling people he believes he will appoint three more.”
        https://www.bing.com/search?q= business+insider+leftist&qs=SC= business+insider+lefty&sk=SC1& sc=3-22&cvid=C2ECBE 4857164805A06F042BAD 9B02D3&FORM=QBRE&sp=2

        You’d think a lefty site like BI would auto-shrink their URL, but no. Commies always leave a mess.

        1. I tend to think of Microsoft as the least commie of the big 3 in tech. Though, I guess it is like picking your favorite between Franco, Mussolini and Hitler.

      2. You’re just mindlessly listing the same inane empty nonsense that that other cousinfucking moron listed the other day. DeVos? Possibly the most discredited cabinet member in the history of the country. What kind of bubble do you have to live in…? Ah, fuck it.

  6. Good on Rand, but I just have to say I hate this term “throw shade”. I always picture someone throwing a beach umbrella at someone else.

    1. I agree with Hee Haw, but I always picture an old timey plantation game.

      1. *except* I always picture.

        Never type while stuffing your face full of Chipolte.*

        *No, that’s not the name of my spicy chica.

        1. *Chipotle, not Chipolte.

          {Grammar Stuka zooms off into the night}

    2. I picture someone taking off their sunglasses while a Thug-Life logo appears above their head and tossing it at the victim.

  7. I like a lot of what Rand has to say, but he seems to be one step away from being the old man yelling that the TV news like they can hear him.

  8. He’s right, but this was an extremely stupid thing to do. McCain and Graham have a lot of power in the Senate and just got reelected. They can make life very difficult for Rand. Policy differences can be overlooked but personal insults like that, not so much.

    If he thinks anybody in the Senate has his back on this, I hope he was careful to buy the stuff he’s high on in a state where it’s legal.

    1. It’s nuts how not wanting war leaves you without allies.

      1. Running his mouth about it certainly isn’t stopping, and hasn’t in the past stopped, any wars. This rash act probably costs him what little influence he had.

        1. “Running his mouth about it certainly isn’t stopping, and hasn’t in the past stopped, any wars.”

          So there’s no use objecting to them? Good plan.

          1. So there’s no use objecting to them?

            Apparently. Depends on whether you want to live in the real world or a fantasy where saying something is inherently significant.

            1. “Apparently. Depends on whether you want to live in the real world or a fantasy where saying something is inherently significant.”

              Ah, yes! The claim of ‘fantasy’ for those who would prefer principle! How
              .
              .
              .
              not surprising.

              1. I will be okay when McCain finally dies. The hagiographies written for him will be nauseating, but at least there is a hope that his replacement won’t be so driven towards murder.

        2. Oh, and fuck you and your non-pastable handle. I’m sure you feel very smug.

          1. It’s super lame that I have to write & lt to call him a fag.
            Liberty =>< = Equality is a fag.

          2. I know i do you stupid old shitbag

      2. A policy position is one thing, Throwing about personal insults publicly probably is not going to get anybody in the Senate on his side.

    2. Yeah, principle isn’t worth a comment, right?

    3. Nobody in the country likes Graham or McCain. I don’t think he went out on a limb attacking Graham, especially since the guy who legitimizes him is going to die of cancer soon.

    4. Nobody in the country likes Graham or McCain. I don’t think he went out on a limb attacking Graham, especially since the guy who legitimizes him is going to die of cancer soon.

  9. You know who else didn’t know there were troops in Niger…

    1. Kublai Khan? Sacagawea? Most 14th century Australian Aborigines?

    2. Gaddafi?

  10. Forget about the troops — I didn’t even realize Niger only had one “g”.

  11. Well, what exactly do you expect would happen?

    “Oh hey, people and government of Niger, we’re removing our troops, so enjoy your new Islamist government!

    At least until they decide to launch an attack on the US, then we’ll be back to blowing stuff up randomly.”

    Small wars are better than large wars. And fighting on other people’s territory always makes more sense, at least for you.

  12. JeremyR|10.23.17 @ 11:21PM|#
    “Small wars are better than large wars. And fighting on other people’s territory always makes more sense, at least for you.”

    And no wars are better than small ones.
    Are you worried about the boogie men under your bed?

    1. This would be so much more persuasive if you guys weren’t always pissing your pants about cops and the war on drugs and the government not buying junkies free needles. What are you afraid of the dirty needle in your closet.

      Don’t exaggerate the threat of things and then turn around and dismiss other peoples’ exaggerated threats.

      1. One of your three insults is not like the others. What do you think is exaggerated about the skepticism towards police and the war on drugs?

  13. No empire no open borders. The left figured this out during the Obama years which is why Obama was such an enthusiastic convert to empire. Sooner or later Reason will figure this out and all the anti-interventionism will disappear. And Hazel and others will be here shrieking at any one that points it out.

    1. Reason is somehow under the assumption that Open Borders will increase liberty, when in fact it will only be used as an excuse for ever more distant rulers to lord over us all.

      Sickening how much the Kochs influence this magazine.

  14. The link you provided for Senator Graham does not seem to be functioning.

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