Charlie Hebdo Cover Mocks Flood Victims, U.S. Orders Russian Consulate to Close, Americans Disagree with Trump's Pardon of Arpaio: P.M. Links

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  Charlie Hebdo

  If you haven't read enough outrage over whether people are responding appropriately to the flooding and deaths in Texas, the latest cover of Charlie Hebdo, suggesting that the hurricane was killing off neo-Nazis, is here to poke the hornet's nest.

• Sources say President Donald Trump will end President Barack Obama's program of shielding young immigrants brought into the United States illegally from deportation, but will let those with jobs remain in the country until their work permits expire.
• In response to Russia ordering the United States to reduce embassy staff in Moscow, the United States is ordering Russia to close its consulate in San Francisco, as well as two annexes.
• A poll shows that 60 percent of Americans do not support President Donald Trump's pardon of former Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio.
• Things you should not do as a Georgia police officer being recorded by your own dashcam: Tell a white motorist at a traffic stop "We only shoot black people."
• A judge in Oregon has ordered a couple to bring their barking dogs to a vet to have their voices surgically squelched to satisfy neighbors.
• California Democratic Sen. Kamala Harris says she's backing Sen. Bernie Sanders' "Medicare for All" single-payer health bill.

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[Fist of Etiquette]

Sources say President Donald Trump will end President Barack Obama's program of shielding young immigrants brought into the United States illegally from deportation...

His heart is only so big.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Hello.

And yet, no Nazi Texans will shoot CH satirists down.

It wouldn't surprise me if the average European does indeed think America is controlled by Nazis. Talking to my friend in Holland gives me that impression.

[Palin's Buttplug]

To a European your average US conservative IS a Nazi.

[The Last American Hero]

And by European, he means Democrat.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Which makes them dumb-dumbs.

I thought they're supposed to be smarter and more sophisticated.

[MarkLastname]

So, Europeans dont know what Nazis are then?

[loveconstitution1789]

They forgot the horrors that was the leftist Nazis rampaging through Europe and America saved them.

[BYODB]

Yeah, while I don't much appreciate their insinuation I think they're still just upset that they couldn't hold onto our state for very long. They're one of the six, after all.

[mad.casual]

It wouldn't surprise me if the average European does indeed think America is controlled by Nazis. Talking to my friend in Holland gives me that impression.

To a person, every immigrant I meet or interact with has the distinct impression that the government, the unions, and the mob in Chicago/IL are as firmly tied together today as they ever were in the 20s... I suppose that's actually a statement in their defense.

[CatoTheChipper]

Here's why: immigrants did not get 13 years of state indoctrination about how wonderful the US government is.

They have an objective view of what is going on.

[Palin's Buttplug]

They're all rapists, of course.

[loveconstitution1789]

They have violated and are violating federal immigration law, that's for sure.

[Fist of Etiquette]

...the latest cover of Charlie Hebdo, suggesting that the hurricane was killing off neo-Nazis, is here to poke the hornet's nest.

Is it still satire if it doesn't seem to have a point?

[BestUsedCarSales]

Certainly mocking the raw points of everyone is a point.

[Fist of Etiquette]

WELL THEN THOSE FROGS SHOULD THINK TWICE ABOUT REMINDING EVERYONE ABOUT NAZIS.

[CatoTheChipper]

Didn't France's government actively cooperate with real Nazis in turning over Jews?

[Greg Loves His Woodchipper]

That story sounds Vichy to me...

[Fist of Etiquette]

YOU GET OUT OF HERE

[Jerryskids]

With that attitude, you're goering to make people think you don't appreciate a good pun.

[Mickey Rat]

It bears recalling that Charlie Hebdo now only makes fun of groups they think won't literally return fire.

[BestUsedCarSales]

Really? Did they actually default on the Islam thing? Damn shame.

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

The survivors of the shooting left the magazine after citing that Hebdo wasn't staying true to its principles -- something like that, if memory serves.

[BestUsedCarSales]

Actually, I think I do remember hearing that. It's a damn shame. Free speech needs people pushing the limits of it.

[Mickey Rat]

Yeah, I think I saw an article about it six months ago or so?

[Calidissident]

What are you guys talking about? They literally had an anti-Islam cover this month after the Barcelona attack.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/f.....dangerous/

I think the cover today is stupid, but much of the outrage has been dumb.

[amelia]

They recently had a cover about radical Islam, following the Barcelona attack.

I'm kinda thinking this Nazi cover is a criticism of the bourgeois American left and its preoccupations. From the perspective of Charlie Hedbo, the American left's furore over Nazis and "alt right" fascism, in contrast to its polite silence on Islamofacism, when clearly the greatest terrorist threat globally is from the Islamofacists...well, I can imagine that Charlie Hedbo would have a great deal of contempt for that. Also, if they are paying close attention they've probably seen plenty of virtue signaling from the American left over Harvey, despite that the population of Texas is largely composed of those the left despises. I'm sure seeing it all over the Facebook; seems like no one is more motivated to express their love and concern for Texas than the leftist nodes in my network.

Of course, all very speculative and probably more reflective of my biases than anything else.

BTW, I think the drowned Nazi cover is pretty hilarious.

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

Quixotic that's your cue.

[Juice]

Is Ted Rall their new chief editor? Seems to be on par with his stuff.

[Citizen X - #6]

I saw a funny Ted Rall cartoon once.

[Palin's Buttplug]

Once? Then hire him for Friday Funnies.

[Eek Barba Durkle]

That time shrike was right.

[BestUsedCarSales]

Was it funny on purpose?

[mad.casual]

"Just not haha funny."

[Careless]

Is it still satire if it doesn't seem to have a point?

Yeah, I really don't get it. I'm not offended. I'm confused. Is the only lesson that the Hebdo people are bigoted retards?

[Cyto]

They are in, like, this whole other country. Like, they probably, like, don't understand the finer points of regional differences in American culture.

Which isn't, like, all that surprising. Because, like, I don't think anyone in Los Angeles has a clue about Georgia or Virginia and their differences. They just think "South, racist hicks, Nascar and country music". And most of the people in New York City would have trouble telling you the difference between New Jersey and Missouri - all being part of the poor, huddled masses who are two stupid to live in New York City.

[Quo Usque Tandem]

Two stupid? You mean there is more than one?

[Bra Ket]

I think the foot of the corpse looking a saluting hand was the extent of the gag.

[Texasmotiv]

It's pretty tasteless, but I think that's what they were going for.

It's funny, I guess.

[Crusty Juggler]

A poll shows that 60 percent of Americans do not support President Donald Trump's pardon of former Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio.

The same polls that said Hillary would win?

LOL@Crusty!

[The Last American Hero]

Given that nobody outside of Arizona residents even know who the guy is, the only poll that matters is what Arizonians think. Well, libertarians know who the guy is because they care about civil rights, but Joe ain't running for any office with an L by his name.

[BestUsedCarSales]

Hey, he wasn't Arizona's toughest sheriff. He was AMERICA'S toughest sheriff.

[Fist of Etiquette]

...the United States is ordering Russia to close its consulate in San Francisco, as well as two annexes.

Russia should want to, considering all the gays in Sin Francrisco!

[BestUsedCarSales]

Sin Francrisco

You know, I always suspected you were Rush Limbaugh.

[Fist of Etiquette]

[ruffles papers next to mic]

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

LOL

[Crusty Juggler]

Blank Space: Taylor Will Not?and Should Not?Solve Your Donald Trump Anxiety

There is no good reason to care what Swift or Perry, who both make self-obsessive pop songs for a living, think about politics. It's worthwhile to interrogate the politics of their art (though the prospect of these artists making all their subtext and biases plain as press release language strikes me as, well, artless). And it's reasonable to expect that they should be as opinionated, vocal, and active as anyone else. But it is troubling when we begin to take pop stars especially seriously, not because they have demonstrated knowledge or competence but simply because they command massive audiences. It is the first step toward some much larger problems.

LEAVE SWIZZLE ALONE!

[BestUsedCarSales]

But it is troubling when we begin to take pop stars especially seriously, not because they have demonstrated knowledge or competence but simply because they command massive audiences. It is the first step toward some much larger problems.

Very curious as to whether they believe this is a recent phenomenon.

[Crusty Juggler]

Demanding a pop star denounce a politician has to be recent.

[BestUsedCarSales]

The Beatles were the start of all this madness. The original boy band.

[Cyto]

Yes. Because Louis Armstrong was never used as a political prop. And Sinatra never got involved in Politics. And Sousa..... don't get me started on Sousa.

[BestUsedCarSales]

I don't feel any particular hatred towards them though. So I repeat the Beatles.

[Paloma]

Weren't Frankie Lyman and the Teenagers kind of a boy band?

[Unicorn Abattoir]

As often as politicians have been called upon to denounce pop stars, I say it's about damn time!

And while Swift no doubt has political opinions of her own, I haven't heard about her voicing them.

[Sports Reporter Charles Manson]

Maybe she has no opinions, or she does but believes that lots of fans would be antagonized if she articulated them.

[Mendelism]

-1M Dixie Chicks fans

[Mickey Rat]

It was not that long ago that entertainers were socially regarded at the level of prostitutes.

[Cyto]

Yeah, I guess the fappening wasn't all that long ago...

[Fist of Etiquette]

A poll shows that 60 percent of Americans do not support President Donald Trump's pardon of former Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio.

The other forty are all "who?"

[The Last American Hero]

Poll is shit. I have no love for Chief Joe, but 60 percent of Americans have no fucking clue who he is.

[Sports Reporter Charles Manson]

If the poll has any validity (and I'm not going to assume that), then it may simply reflect a "hey, this guy got pardoned, that means he thinks he's above the law!" and they'd think the same thing regardless of the charges, whether dope smuggling or whatever.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Tell a white motorist at a traffic stop "We only shoot black people."

It's funny because it's true.

[Rhywun]

I'm surprised they didn't immediately sack him for making them look bad.

[This Machine Chips Fascists]

Maybe he turns up later with his tongue cut out, a reminder to never speak of this thing of ours.

[Texasmotiv]

Is it bad that my wife and I have the same joke?

At least he's self-aware.

[MarkLastname]

That she only does black guys?

[Fist of Etiquette]

A judge in Oregon has ordered a couple to bring their barking dogs to a vet to have their voices surgically squelched to satisfy neighbors.

Solomon would be proud.

[Juice]

Can they do that for my neighbor's kids?

[Crusty Juggler]

Is Taylor Swift a feminist icon or a whiny grumbler?

An entire album about a star's own reputation isn't a feminist victory, but exactly where feminism has gone wrong: Instead of standing strong as women who strive for betterment and goals regardless of sex, they stand around whining that the world hasn't appreciated them while blaming their problems on the patriarchy.

Or in Taylor's words, "Look at what you made me do."

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

"Is Taylor Swift a feminist icon?"

I think you have to torture people to be that, so.... yes?

[lap83]

whiny icon

[Sports Reporter Charles Manson]

What's with the either/or?

Anyway, if she's staying quiet about politics, maybe she isn't a feminist, or maybe she has found that it's not yakking about politics that made her rich, so why should she start now?

[TW]

Is there a difference between being a feminist icon and a whiny grumbler?

[Fist of Etiquette]

California Democratic Sen. Kamala Harris says she's backing Sen. Bernie Sanders' "Medicare for All" single-payer health bill.

Because it's California and six years isn't that far off.

[Palin's Buttplug]

IIRC, one must qualify for Medicare by paying Medicare taxes.

So "Medicare for all" would mean non-working bums would be shut off.

[MiloMinderbinder]

When you turn 65, you become eligible for Medicare if you:

You either receive or qualify for Social Security retirement cash benefits
OR

You currently reside in the United States and are either
A U.S. citizen or
A permanent U.S. resident who has lived in the U.S. continuously for five years prior to applying

[Palin's Buttplug]

"OR"?

So any resident qualifies at 65?

That sucks.

[The Last American Hero]

Why? You love single payer and government run healthcare for all.

[Palin's Buttplug]

Lying cunt.

I despise Medicare and single-payer.

[NotAnotherSkippy]

Explains why you defend barrycare so hard.

Just how much is your TANF check these days?

[Palin's Buttplug]

No, I only said Obamacare is superior to Medicare because it is market based and private insurance eligible.

[Texasmotiv]

"Market based"? Really? ...Obamacare?

[MarkLastname]

You just defend the ACA and any other 'reform' in the direction of socialized medicine to the death.

[NotAnotherSkippy]

Buttplug ignorant of entitlement law. That's not a first.

[Palin's Buttplug]

I am not entitlement eligible, you idiot.

[MarkLastname]

Buttplug no read words so good either.

[TrickyVic (old school)]

Also, Medicare only pays 80%. Most seniors need a supplemental plan.

[TrickyVic (old school)]

And doesn't pay for preventative services, except for a one wellness visit a year.

[Intelligent Mr Toad]

The Arpaio pardon is Chapter One. Chapter Two goes like this: a pro-abortion governor in a pro-abortion state decides that he doesn't want pro-life demonstrators carrying those ugly fetal-gore pics in front of abortion clinics, so he orders the cops to bust the pro-life demonstrators' heads. After a few spectacular brutalities, a judge says "Hey, you can't do that unless the demonstrators break the law! You know, that First-Amendment thing," and issues a cease-and-desist injunction, ordering the cops to back off and stand down. But the cops tell the judge "Your Honor, go fcck yourself", and go on busting heads anyway. The judge finds the cops in contempt, and orders that they be arrested and jailed, but, the pro-abortion governor pardons the cops.

Chapter Three goes: from that day on, the First Amendment only protects people whom the governor likes.

This was always a danger, a potential problem with the privilege of executive clemency. The Founding Fathers argued about it. Now, it is an ACTUAL problem.

Thank you, President Trump.

Machen Sie Amerika wieder gro?artig.

????? ??????? ??????? ???????!

[Paloma]

Can governors pardon "illegals"?

[Liberty =><= Equality]

Terrible analogy. The cops and governor are both breaking federal civil rights law (as well as ordinary state laws against assault) by beating the protesters, not merely in contempt of court. For them to get away with it, you'd need a complete breakdown in the rule of law at every level of government.

This was always a danger, a potential problem with the privilege of executive clemency. The Founding Fathers argued about it. Now, it is an ACTUAL problem.

How the fuck is it an "actual" problem now? It's not happening. I agree that it's a potential problem, but that's not Trump's doing.

[Crusty Juggler]

Former BHS coach enters plea of 'not guilty' of sexual misconduct with student athlete

The former Bainbridge High School coach accused of first-degree sexual misconduct with a minor after she allegedly had a romantic relationship with a student athlete entered a plea of "not guilty" during a court appearance Thursday.

Hubba hubba.

[mad.casual]

Hubba hubba.

I don't know. While the libertarian in me is shouting "No foul!" the rest of me (well, most anyway) reads;

"I want to know what's going to happen to her," the former student said, saying her life was thrown into disarray when an acquaintance disclosed the relationship to district officials. "I can't even talk to her, I can't even see her."

Although the former student said she does not consider herself a victim and wants to resume the relationship with the coach, the Sun is not naming her because she could be considered a victim of sexual assault.

And thinks it really smacks of disgusting puppy love/exploitation.

[DajjaI]

The purpose of Charlie Hebdo is to foist the hoax of French 'free speech': "Look at how offensive we can be!" That's why it's not funny, even as ardent secularists keep buying it in the hope that it finally will be. (Kind of like Reason magazine - HAHA j/k and I wonder why I got banned.)

[Crusty Juggler]

Guillermo del Toro on Splashy Aquatic-Creature Sex and 'The Shape of Water' in Venice

? Director Guillermo del Toro was in top form Thursday at the Venice press conference for his well-received Cold War-era fairy tale "The Shape of Water," in which a mute cleaning lady named Elisa played by Sally Hawkins becomes wrapped up with a gilled primordial Amazonian water creature. And yes, the characters have sex.

Describing what he called his film's "Beauty and the Beast" element, Del Toro said: "There's two versions of 'Beauty and the Beast' normally. One is the puritanical one where they love each other in a platonic way but they never f?. And the other one is really the reverse?and this is kind of creepy for me. I am not interested in either of them," he said.

"I wanted to make clear that character [Elisa] is a real woman, and a complete woman: masturbating and making her breakfast with equal ease, but also in terms of the sex in the movie. I wanted it to exist in a natural, beautiful non-exploitative, completely organic way," del Toro said, adding: "But they do f?!"

Literally can't.

[BestUsedCarSales]

I wish there was more non-Canadian literature about women making f*ck with non-human species.

[Juice]

So ... like, a reverse Splash!?

[Unlabelable MJGreen]

Is her breakfast also organic?

[This Machine Chips Fascists]

Squid eggs

[mad.casual]

masturbating and making her breakfast with equal ease

I feel like Guillermo del Toro, or someone else, is going to have to explain to me how you make breakfast without eggs, bacon, a wire whisk, spatula, toaster, hand mixer, milk, a frying pan, etc. Or, possibly, somebody needs to explain to him that there are easier ways for women to masturbate. I'm not sure.

I must say, though, that I admire his ability to roll "Make me a sandwich." and "Go fuck yourself." into some manner of compliment or vision of womanhood.

[BestUsedCarSales]

Important reminder for the audience here that owns a PS4. Yakuza Kiwami came out Tuesday.

It and Yakuza 0 are shaping up to be the best games of the year, and as I have infinite wisdom and impeccable taste I should always be trusted when it comes to video games.

Here is just an example of what awesome shit you are missing.

[Juice]

Things you should not do as a Georgia police officer being recorded by your own dashcam: Tell a white motorist at a traffic stop "We only shoot black people."

hahaowow.jpg

[BestUsedCarSales]

0w0 what's this?

[Juice]

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/.....94/001.jpg

[Crusty Juggler]

United States of Obesity: CDC map reveals at least 20% of EVERY state is clinically overweight

More than 20 percent of adults are obese in every state in America, according to new figures from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

In five states - Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, Arkansas and West Virginia - more than 35 percent of residents are morbidly overweight.

And 20 states, Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands have a rate between 30 and 35 percent.

The figures, released on Thursday, are a damning sign that public health efforts to improve nutrition and fitness aren't fixing the problem.

[BestUsedCarSales]

A lot of money was spent while attempting the fix, and that's what matters.

[Chipper Morning, Now #1]

When the supervolcano in Yellowstone goes off, we know who to blame.

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

I'm ready to worship the volcano tbh. Let that time be nigh, amirite?

[Paloma]

Is it clinically overweight or is it obese? They are not the same thing. And it looks like much of this is self reported. "How fat are you"? doesn't seem like a scientifically valid question.

[Unicorn Abattoir]

BREAKING - Reason's 2nd least-liked sheriff, Milwaukee's David Clarke, has resigned.

http://www.tmj4.com/news/local.....s-resigned

[Juice]

The sheriff was in Nashville at the time of his resignation

Cutting his new country album, duh.

[BestUsedCarSales]

Who's our first?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Lobo.

[NotAnotherSkippy]

BJ or bear?

[Unicorn Abattoir]

Dirty Lyle.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Omar.

[This Machine Chips Fascists]

I'm not real fond of my local Sheriff. SOB looks too much like HR Haldeman.

[Liberty =><= Equality]

The Nottingham one.

[gaoxiaen]

So the other four are still at large?

[Fist of Etiquette]

A judge in Oregon has ordered a couple to bring their barking dogs to a vet to have their voices surgically squelched to satisfy neighbors.

That's ruff.

[Tom Bombadil]

ruh-roh.

[This Machine Chips Fascists]

*GONG*

[Palin's Buttplug]

Bratfart vs Wikepedia

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/.....-movement/

[BestUsedCarSales]

Was the misspelling of Wikipedia a real typo or an insult I don't get.

[Juice]

Right? It's Wokepedia.

[BestUsedCarSales]

Also, sounds like Wikipedia being wikipedia. Current events always turn into editor wars like this. Kind of a non-issue.

[DajjaI]

Guys, quick question - if your jail loses its accreditation, should you still put it on your resume? Because I was thinking might be better just to leave it off entirely.

[Unicorn Abattoir]

Schools. They're called schools in this country.

[The Last American Hero]

I think you'll be safe as long as the accreditation wasn't lost because you failed to clean the bathrooms adequately. The prospective employers understand that janitors have little influence in the overall compliance aspects of the institution.

[Palin's Buttplug]

Full time conservative idiot Mark 'High Pitch Spermy Voice' Levin says AGW is not real because Archie-Medes and Issac Newton did not write about it.

https://youtu.be/lcNZ2LXE4kg

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

Mark...Levin?

You're spreading the fame of your enemies.

[MarkLastname]

Next Buttplug is going to tell us all about the wacky things the hobo at the bus stop by his place says, and how poorly it reflects on all of us.

[Jerry on the sea]

Kamala Harris says she's backing Sen. Bernie Sanders' "Medicare for All" single-payer health bill.

Time for Warren Buffett to pay up.

[CatoTheChipper]

I'm sure Charlie Hebdo is rigorous about their fact-checking, but I've lived in Texas for 58 years and I've never seen sign of a neo-Nazi or a Nazi of any sort. I've never seen so much as a swastika outside of a Buddhist Temple. About 45 years ago, I did run into a few Klansmen in the backwoods of East Texas, which was overwhelmingly Democrat back then. But I'm sure that even they hated Nazis as much as they hated blacks and Jews and Catholics (they insulted my "Kraut-engineered" Volkswagen.) And I haven't run into a Klansman since.

[IceTrey]

I've lived in the South for most of my life and I've never met a real neo-Nazi or Klansman.

[ChipToBeSquare]

Few people on the left seem to realize that the GOP views defeating the Nazis as America's greatest achievement, and for the hawks, a blueprint for successful foreign policy. That's why the warmongers are so quick to bring up Hitler when they're justifying regime change. "You just want to appease _____, and that didn't work against Hitler!"

[IceTrey]

Houston and Harris county voted Democrat.

[Palin's Buttplug]

OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!

[loveconstitution1789]

Just means that because Nazis are lefties too, Harris County is a hotbed of lefty Nazis.

[This Machine Chips Fascists]

I've got a bad feeling about Sen. Harris. Kamala looks like the new Hillary, all ruthless ambition and authoritarian stripes. I'm just not ready for another one yet.

[Palin's Buttplug]

Yes. Them bitches are all alike.

[This Machine Chips Fascists]

You've shoved that buttplug too far up your ass. I think it's poking you in the brain, touching you, changing you.

[loveconstitution1789]

Kamala Harris and Hillary are alike. Good job.

[Stormy Dragon]

all ruthless ambition and authoritarian stripes

As opposed to Trump, who is the epitome of chill slackitude.

[This Machine Chips Fascists]

No, as opposed to a Jabberwocky, you big silly dragon.

[Texasmotiv]

That's it, put another dollar in the whataboutism jar!

[Old Mexican's Speedos]

[his attorney claimed] that [the police officer's] comments [telling the motorist "we only shoot blacks, right?"] were meant to "de-escalate a situation involving an uncooperative passenger."

The 'uncooperative motorist' was clearly racist, otherwise how would the police officer know that his quip would sooth her?

[Of course the reality is that the lawyer is an asshole]

[Africanis]

Medicare for all, everybody cheer with me, Medicare for all *** Crowd Cheers***. Here is the cost *Crowd Chants WTF you said it would be free!!*

[Paloma]

Yup. They pretty much take it out of the Social Security check.

[Liberty =><= Equality]

A poll shows that 60 percent of Americans do not support President Donald Trump's pardon of former Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio.

Note that Reason links to a CBS News story about an NBC News poll. Could it be that they want to make it difficult to find the poll methodology and actual results?

Should most undocumented immigrants working in the United States be offered a chance to apply for legal status, or deported to the country they came from?

Yep, no false dichotomy there. Look at these push poll questions:

Do you support or oppose the DACA (Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals) policy, which protects those who were brought in the United States as undocumented children from being deported?

As you may know, President Trump granted former Arizona sheriff Joe Arpaio
a pardon from his criminal
contempt conviction for disregarding a court order in a racial profiling case. Do you think President Trump did
the right thing or wrong thing in granting Arpaio a pardon?

[loveconstitution1789]

Cannot further a certain open borders agenda if Americans have actual information rather than media propaganda.

[chemjeff]

So are we back to the "media polls are fake news" narrative?

I thought that narrative ended when the media polls showed public support for Trump's travel ban and expressed suspicion about the alleged Trump-Russia connection.

Or is that "fake news" too?

Just repeat after me:

"Polls which support my narrative are correct, polls which conflict with my narrative are fake"