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A.M. Links: Trump Says 'All Options Are on the Table" After North Korean Missile Launch, Latest on Hurricane Harvey, Rand Paul Attacks Civil Asset Forfeiture

Damon Root | 8.29.2017 9:00 AM

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    President Donald Trump says "all options are on the table" in response to North Korea launching a missile over Japan yesterday.

  • Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe is calling for an immediate meeting of the U.N. Security Council in response to the North Korean missile launch.
  • Hurricane Harvey continues to cause massive destruction in Texas and the storm is now heading towards Louisiana.
  • "A top executive from Donald Trump's real estate company emailed Russian President Vladimir Putin's personal spokesman during the U.S. presidential campaign last year to ask for help advancing a stalled Trump Tower development project in Moscow, according to documents submitted to Congress on Monday."
  • Sen. Rand Paul: "No, the feds shouldn't give war machines to the police."

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Damon Root is a senior editor at Reason and the author of A Glorious Liberty: Frederick Douglass and the Fight for an Antislavery Constitution (Potomac Books).

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   8 years ago

    Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe is calling for an immediate meeting of the U.N. Security Council in response to the North Korean missile launch.

    They needed to talk to their HOA about him.

    1. Rufus The Monocled   8 years ago

      Hello.

      1. Fist of Etiquette   8 years ago

        You know who else used to greet people?

        1. Mauser   8 years ago

          Mr Rogers?

        2. Conchfritters   8 years ago

          Captain Kangaroo?

        3. loveconstitution1789   8 years ago

          Ronald McDonald?

        4. Chipper Morning, Now #1   8 years ago

          Are you saying Rufus has a future at Walmart?

          1. $park? leftist poser   8 years ago

            Welcome to Costco, I love you.

            1. Azathoth!!   8 years ago

              They really hate when you say that at Costco.

  2. Fist of Etiquette   8 years ago

    President Donald Trump says "all options are on the table" in response to North Korea launching a missile over Japan yesterday.

    Has it ever been someone else's missile that wakes Godzilla up? Because that option is on the table.

    1. Libertarian   8 years ago

      What a difference 72 years can make.

      1. Chipper Morning, Now #1   8 years ago

        Godzilla is now too busy watching Matlock.

  3. Fist of Etiquette   8 years ago

    Hurricane Harvey continues to cause massive destruction in Texas and the storm is now heading towards Louisiana.

    Big mistake. Harvey is about to get hit back with a little thing called the Interstate Commerce Clause.

    1. Conchfritters   8 years ago

      Where will the citizens of Nawlins go if they get flooded and Houston is still under water?

    2. Chinny Chin Chin   8 years ago

      Saw that the "Cajun Navy" has arrived in Houston to help evacuations. Good on 'em, and pleased that FEMA/Feds aren't prohibiting them from helping.

      1. Rhywun   8 years ago

        What is that, a guy with a rowboat and an indecipherable accent?

        1. Conchfritters   8 years ago

          And four or five sun burns layered on top of one another - no worry - they're harmless, and they only work for Skoal longcut.

          1. John DeWitt   8 years ago

            Skoal? I guess they're getting in on bloated government contracts, too. Why isn't Timber Wolf good enough?

      2. Libertarian   8 years ago

        I get so goddam tired of Governors and mayors holding press conferences and constantly praising one another and the heroism of paid first responders. Circle jerks.

        1. sarcasmic   8 years ago

          Don't forget that those selfless first responders have been on overtime for at least a week. By the time this is over they'll be clocking in several hundred hours apiece.

          1. CatoTheChipper   8 years ago

            At least they didn't abandon their posts like they did for Katrina

            1. Libertarian   8 years ago

              I doubt they'll be confiscating very many guns, either.

      3. Chipper Morning, Now #1   8 years ago

        You know who else is helping? The Black Beast. He even helped a guy with a confederate flag, cause he doesn't care about stuff like that.

        1. Chinny Chin Chin   8 years ago

          I look forward to antifa's response.

  4. Bee Tagger   8 years ago

    A top executive from Donald Trump's real estate company emailed Russian President Vladimir Putin's personal spokesman during the U.S. presidential campaign last year

    And the spokesman's personal assistant's name is Kennedy and Trump's real estate executive drives a Lincoln and they later met to discuss matters over a plate of bacon served by their waiter Kevin.

  5. Fist of Etiquette   8 years ago

    No, the feds shouldn't give war machines to the police.

    Step off, Rhodey.

  6. Bee Tagger   8 years ago

    Sen. Rand Paul: "No, the feds shouldn't give war machines to the police."

    If the military is allowed to police the world, the least the police should be able to do is militarize the country, right? It's only fair.

    1. Mauser   8 years ago

      Yup. Why not. The roles are reversed.

    2. widget   8 years ago

      The feds should give all the war machines to transexuals. Just keep them out of the hands of John McCain.

      1. chemjeff   8 years ago

        Are you suggesting John McCain isn't transsexual enough for his very own war machine?

        1. Careless   8 years ago

          McCain does have quite the history of getting his own war machines blown up

    3. Conchfritters   8 years ago

      Better question is why did we have Oshkosh trucking produce $$billions of MRAPs and then just use them for two years and then scrap them? Are IEDs not going to be a concern in future entanglements?

      1. Libertarian   8 years ago

        Hey, when it comes to defending against the wanton destruction of our Confederate statues, all options are on the table.

      2. RT   8 years ago

        ^THIS. I can see surplus trucks, boats, and the like (for use in situations like Harvey), but MRAPs just seem like something we can use again, leaving aside the argument of whether they have a legitimate law enforcement use.

      3. Wally   8 years ago

        They ain't given the Oshkosh ones away, It's the worthless solid axle crap made by Navistar, BAE etc.

  7. Bee Tagger   8 years ago

    President Donald Trump says "all options are on the table" in response to North Korea launching a missile over Japan yesterday.

    I'm surprised they can afford such a large table after all of the money being spent on Secret Servicemen

  8. Fist of Etiquette   8 years ago

    A top executive from Donald Trump's real estate company emailed Russian President Vladimir Putin's personal spokesman during the U.S. presidential campaign last year to ask for help advancing a stalled Trump Tower development project in Moscow...

    This is why you never want to elect someone president who's ever set foot one into the private sector.

    1. DJF   8 years ago

      This is why we needed Bernie Sanders as President, he is a pure government Top Man

  9. Mauser   8 years ago

    If I lived in Seoul I would be more terrified of Trump than North Korea.

    1. Rufus The Monocled   8 years ago

      Please expand what you mean.

      1. Tom Bombadil   8 years ago

        You ever go out with some high-strung friend who rubs everyone the wrong way and is overly aggressive?
        You figure there's a very good chance you're going to end up in a fight at some point in the evening.

        Seoul is you, and Trump is the ass-hole friend.

        *just an explanation.

        1. Chipper Morning, Now #1   8 years ago

          At a certain age, and after a fight or two, I stopped hanging out with people like that.

      2. Memory Hole   8 years ago

        Trump is a new wild variable on what was once a relatively fixed equation. I believe the concern is when Trump says he's willing to start WW3 if NK fires blank missiles in the direction of Guam. SK would suffer the worst of the conflict.

        1. loveconstitution1789   8 years ago

          South Korea is going to suffer sooner or later.

          Might as well make it sooner before Fat Boy-Un has more nasty surprises.

          Anyone who thinks the North Korea threat is going to just go away is living in a fantasy land.

          1. Eek Barba Durkle   8 years ago

            "threat"

  10. Old Mexican's Speedos   8 years ago

    TRADE WAR LEAK: Trump Rejected China Deal; Wants Tariffs
    Trump wants tariffs, good and hard.

    1. widget   8 years ago

      Always nice to hear what a Mexican nationalist thinks.

      1. Chipper Morning, Now #1   8 years ago

        You into tarrifs?

    2. Palin's Buttplug   8 years ago

      Der Trumpen-Furher might even try to blockade our ports to prevent Mexican imports.

      (his logic, not mine)

      1. John DeWitt   8 years ago

        No need for a disclaimer. Nobody would confuse your arguments with logical conclusions.

      2. loveconstitution1789   8 years ago

        Butt: You misspelled Fuhrer.

        Fuhrer=Obama

  11. Rebel Scum   8 years ago

    President Donald Trump says "all options are on the table" in response to North Korea launching a missile over Japan yesterday.

    I would say cue media and lefty (but I repeat myself) pants shitting, but the pants shitting is ongoing. That said, "all options" is the correct response when you don't want an adversary to know your intentions, which is desirable.

    1. Stormy Dragon   8 years ago

      Yes, because when dealing with a nuclear armed opponent, maximizing their confusion and paranoia is a really good idea.

      1. Rebel Scum   8 years ago

        The only problem would be if Kim believes his own propaganda. I suspect he smart enough to know that DPRK is in no way a military match to the US. That is why he backed down before.

    2. John DeWitt   8 years ago

      That part is fine to say...it's the rest of the shit he says that gives pause to rational people.

      1. Eek Barba Durkle   8 years ago

        They've been saying that shit for 65 years.

        Trump is just the first President too fucking stupid to understand the game.

        The Troll President is getting trolled by the Troll State.

        1. Eek Barba Durkle   8 years ago

          Nevermind, you were talking about Trump, and not KJU.

          Either way, they are both loudmouthed ignoramuses. The difference being, trump might actually mean some of the shit he says.

    3. Unlabelable MJGreen   8 years ago

      It's only a couple million lives on the line; I don't know why some people get so panicky.

      1. loveconstitution1789   8 years ago

        Panicky
        You misspelled appeaseable

  12. Rebel Scum   8 years ago

    Hurricane Harvey continues to cause massive destruction in Texas and the storm is now heading towards Louisiana.

    For those that are wondering, Cenk Uygur is still a massive d-bag.

    1. Zeb   8 years ago

      I could see that coming. These guys are just as classy as the assholes who said New Orleans had it coming because of all the homos.

      1. Rhywun   8 years ago

        My morning news was pushing the climate change = more hurricanes nonsense. You wonder why so many people are so massively misinformed about everything, look no further.

        1. Palin's Buttplug   8 years ago

          There does seem to be a logical reason for climate change to exacerbate a hurricane that was going to happen anyway (according to scientists at Yale anyway).

          https://goo.gl/srZG8Z

          I'm open to the possibility.

          I will listen to a reputable scientist before I will listen to an idiot conservative with a political agenda though.

          1. Tom Bombadil   8 years ago

            The problem with Harvey is that it stalled. Normally Hurricanes chug along at 20knots until they run out of steam. They're in and out of an area in 24 hours or less and can only drop so much rain in that amount of time.

            I'd be interested to see the link between Global Warming and Harvey not having much lateral velocity.

          2. Rhywun   8 years ago

            I'm not going to click one of your stupid anonymized links.

            Anyway, which reputable scientists - the ones who fudge the temperature data or the ones who pretend that any of this is anything more than reading tea leaves? And BTW, scientists at Yale have an agenda too - one which involves attracting more money to scientists at Yale.

            1. Palin's Buttplug   8 years ago

              It has to be," Trenberth says. "The air, being warmer, means it can also hold more moisture. There's more moisture in the air, especially coming off of the oceans."

              That extra moisture matters, adds climate scientist Katharine Hayhoe of Texas Tech: "So when that storm comes along, as it always does, there's more water vapor sitting up there for that storm to pick up and dump on us."

              Warm water is fuel for hurricanes. In fact, Harvey had weakened to a tropical depression as it crossed the Yucatan Peninsula days before it made landfall in Texas. But then it hit the unusually hot waters of the Gulf of Mexico and quickly reorganized into a powerful hurricane.

              As scientist James Elsner of Florida State University explained to YCC in 2016, "With warmer oceans caused by global warming, we can expect the strongest storms to get stronger."

              Perfectly reasonable and backed up by temperature data.

              1. Tom Bombadil   8 years ago

                You cannot attribute anything about Harvey to "Global Warming". It is a hurricane like thousands that preceded it.

                The 'higher temperatures equals more and stronger storms' prediction has already failed miserably.

                1. Palin's Buttplug   8 years ago

                  You're saying that there was NO extra moisture collected by Harvey due to higher atmospheric temps?

                  None?

                  Absurd. You are a political hack with a political agenda.

                  1. Chipper Morning, Now #1   8 years ago

                    You know who else had no extra moisture collected down there?

                    1. Crusty Juggler   8 years ago

                      Lucille Bluth?

                  2. Tom Bombadil   8 years ago

                    Hurricane activity is down over the last 15 years, which means the Earth is cooler. There is a direct causal link, correct?

                  3. Mickey Rat   8 years ago

                    All you can say for sure is the Gulf waters are warmer than usual, which does fuel the storm. You cannot pin down the cause of the warm waters to climate change as opposed to a normal variation of weather. Judt as the unusually cold winters we had a couple of years ago were weather rather than refutation of climate change.

                  4. chemjeff   8 years ago

                    "You're saying that there was NO extra moisture collected by Harvey due to higher atmospheric temps?

                    None?"

                    No, there is some. But the amount of extra moisture due to global warming is about 1/1,000,000th of the amount of extra moisture due to daily weather patterns.

              2. Rhywun   8 years ago

                Everything up to the last sentence is just weather; hell, it's eighth-grade earth science.

                The last sentence is pure conjecture backed up by nothing but faked data and crossed fingers.

              3. chemjeff   8 years ago

                "The air, being warmer, means it can also hold more moisture. There's more moisture in the air, especially coming off of the oceans."

                This is a scientifically true statement.

                However, one has to look at the relative magnitude of the effects.

                If global warming is producing an atmospheric temperature rise of a few tenths of a degree per decade, or about 0.01oC per year, or about 3 ? 10-5 oC per day, this is more than overwhelmed by daily weather changes that produce temperature swings of tens of degrees per day. Any amount of increased moisture content in the atmosphere due to global warming is a mere rounding error in the normal variation of moisture content due to daily weather patterns and temperature cycles. That is why the argument "global warming leads to stronger hurricanes" is bunk.

                1. chemjeff   8 years ago

                  Well, Reason's comment system doesn't understand the HTML superscript tags. Oh well. Imagine superscripts where they are supposed to go above.

              4. BYODB   8 years ago

                So we haven't had one single hurricane in years because...?

                So does increased frequency and strength mean fewer hurricanes? Because we've had fewer hurricanes. Or did Obama save us from those after all?

          3. Tom Bombadil   8 years ago

            Also, the "more and stronger" Hurricanes prediction by AGW's 15 years ago has been a fail, so you might as well listen to an idiot as listen to a reputable scientist.

          4. Chipper Morning, Now #1   8 years ago

            Oh for fuck's sake, Buttplug. Hurricanes are not a new thing.

            1. Palin's Buttplug   8 years ago

              Who said otherwise?

            2. Memory Hole   8 years ago

              Well fuck man, a 500 year flood and a 1000 year flood in TX and LA in the last year when the recorded temperature is the hottest ever. That's a hell of a coincidence.

              1. Tom Bombadil   8 years ago

                The correct jargon is "hottest evah".

              2. Tom Bombadil   8 years ago

                The decrease in hurricane activity in recent years proves the Earth is cooling... since they are linked and all.

              3. Rhywun   8 years ago

                the recorded temperature is the hottest ever

                LOL. Who was recording the temperature a hundred years ago? 500 years ago? Doesn't matter because "scientists" would be adjusting the data downwards anyway just like they are doing for the 1900's.

            3. Eric   8 years ago

              For otherwise smart people, many libertarians sound suspiciously like they reject AGW mostly based upon hatred of the left's religious-like embrace of it.

              1. Enjoy Every Sandwich   8 years ago

                LOL it is hard to avoid the automatic reaction of skepticism when a huckster starts waving his arms and yelling at you.

          5. MarkLastname   8 years ago

            The current consensus, based on empirical rather that speculation, is that global warming probably doesn't increase the frequency of hurricanes.

            It's interesting though that now you're suddenly open to considering possibilities that go against current scientific consensus.

  13. widget   8 years ago

    The upcoming 2018 Winter Olympics will be hosted by South Korea.

    Here are the 7 best ski resorts there:

    http://www.cnn.com/travel/arti.....index.html

    1. Tom Bombadil   8 years ago

      More like the Nuclear Winter Games.
      Ami'rite?

      1. loveconstitution1789   8 years ago

        1st annual nuclear winter games!

        cross country skiing (with gas masks and bio suits)
        speed skating (with gas masks and bio suits)
        ....

  14. Palin's Buttplug   8 years ago

    Rush Limbaugh warns of second civil war after Charlottesville violence

    https://goo.gl/BhX9LQ

    If we could put our top two race baiters in a room together (Fat Rush and Al Sharpton) and leave them the world would be better off.

    1. sarcasmic   8 years ago

      I'd rather see you and Red Tony in a cage match.

      1. Palin's Buttplug   8 years ago

        HE RUNNED OFT.

        1. sarcasmic   8 years ago

          I thought he was swallowed into the folds of a fat chick.

          1. Citizen X - #6   8 years ago

            There's no way to ever know.

            1. Chipper Morning, Now #1   8 years ago

              We can send in Brian to check.

          2. Domestic Dissident   8 years ago

            Like probably 90% of the people who used to be here, he finally had enough of Welch and Gillespie's bullcrap and left for good to go hang out at glibertarians.com.

            1. Tom Bombadil   8 years ago

              You talkin' bout Red Tony? I don't think so.

            2. sarcasmic   8 years ago

              I've been given the official invite to the Echo Chamber, but haven't managed to make it there.

              1. Citizen X - #6   8 years ago

                What's sad is, for all Mikey's praise of the glibs, they all think he's a dumb asshole too.

                1. Azathoth!!   8 years ago

                  What's sad is, for all Mikey's praise of the glibs, they all think he's a dumb asshole too.

                  It's true. Mikey gets crap for his mangled names and his occasional tinfoil hat ranting. Don't know if 'asshole' is the right word--though the people here would probably know best, given the preponderance of them among Those Left Behind.

                  Those who still have a few shreds of sense might just grasp the idea that the fact that Mike's not beloved--and knows it, yet still prefers the one to the other could mean that there's more than a little difference between the two. That perhaps substituting cocktail party leftism for libertarianism isn't a winning strategy.

                  Look at the status of the once vaunted commentariat--White knights for quasi lefty columnists, White knights for those white knights, lefty trolls, Hihn, lefty randos, a few sad 'also-rans', and the scarce few of us that go back and forth because we can't let go.

                  The corpse is little more than grist for the hagfish now.

    2. Rufus The Monocled   8 years ago

      Race baiting is a left-wing hobby.

      I never got the impression listening to Limbaugh that he was.

      1. Aloysious   8 years ago

        For all his faults, racism isn't one of them. That pejorative is simply a handy club to beat him with.

        1. MWG   8 years ago

          Sometime Rush works too hard, cares too much, and loves too deeply.

          1. Palin's Buttplug   8 years ago

            Especially when he is entertaining young boys in the Dominican Republic.

            1. MarkLastname   8 years ago

              Did you see him their on your last trip down there? Is that why you stick to Thailand these days?

              1. Azathoth!!   8 years ago

                Buttplug's mad 'cos he didn't get picked from the line up.

      2. Palin's Buttplug   8 years ago

        Rufus the GOP hack doesn't see conservatives race bait.

        http://www.thedailybeast.com/rush-the-race-baiter

        1. Tom Bombadil   8 years ago

          Of course GOP hacks race bait.

          I've never seen you criticize Obama for his egregious race baiting.
          Team Blue, anyone?

        2. Ron   8 years ago

          another article where they selectively take items out of context and sometimes even edit words out of the middle of a sentence to make it sound like he said something when he didn't. NBC did this to him just Like CBS did to George Zimmerman

          1. BYODB   8 years ago

            If memory serves, it was NBC that George sued as well. NBC likes to make fake news.

  15. Rebel Scum   8 years ago

    "No, the feds shouldn't give war machines to the police."

    Especially since soldiers in war zones have far greater trigger discipline than the average cop. And because police are not military.

  16. Libertarian   8 years ago

    Alabama. Took them forever to legalize micro-breweries, but apparently they have different priorities.

    "Confederate monuments are coming down across America in the wake of this month's violence in Charlottesville, Virginia ? except in Alabama, where a new one went up on Sunday.

    More than 500 people showed up for the unveiling of a small monument to "Unknown Alabama Confederate Soldiers" at Confederate Veterans Memorial Park, on private land in the town of Brantley, in Crenshaw County about 30 miles north of the Florida line."

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/.....smsnnews11

    1. Rhywun   8 years ago

      I give it a week.

    2. Citizen X - #6   8 years ago

      That's how you say "there is literally nothing else interesting about this state."

      1. Chipper Morning, Now #1   8 years ago

        Oh, there are a few other things...

  17. Domestic Dissident   8 years ago

    Jim Brown, a man who nobody will ever confuse with Sean Hannity, puts the Paperneckers in their place with a sentence or two. According to Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain-Dealer, Brown addressed the team and told them, "Do not disrespect your country, do not disrespect the flag."

    I want to see some professional fake libertarian or spoiled idiot SJW Millennial who doesn't know jack shit try and tell off Jim Brown. You don't have the balls, little children. So you won't be seeing anyone on the Browns at least pulling this silly crap anymore, and that's that.

    1. Palin's Buttplug   8 years ago

      No one here gives a fuck about Kapernick (sp?) you idiot.

      I love that the NFL is black-balling him (white balling) just like they told the race-baiter Rush Limbaugh to go fuck himself when he wanted to buy into the Rams.

      1. Domestic Dissident   8 years ago

        First of all Weigel, you're a liar. Second of all, you need to follow the example of your buddy Freddie de Boer and check yourself into the Richmond University Medical Center like he did so you can get the help you so desperately need. Either that, or at least consider just giving into those suicidal urges, you sick asshole.

        1. Palin's Buttplug   8 years ago

          Will you boycott the NFL this year, Mikey? Or more likely you don't even like football.

          1. Chipper Morning, Now #1   8 years ago

            Only homos don't like football, Buttplug.

            1. Domestic Dissident   8 years ago

              Well, Weigel is a homo and he likes the Eagles. Two more reasons why one could almost take pity on him if he wasn't such loathsome scum.

        2. $park? leftist poser   8 years ago

          check yourself into the Richmond University Medical Center like he did so you can get the help you so desperately need

          Holy shit, dude. Look in a mirror.

          1. Eek Barba Durkle   8 years ago

            Nooooooooo shit.

      2. Agammamon   8 years ago

        But are they freeballing him? Or is he freeballing them? Are they freeballing each other?

    2. Agammamon   8 years ago

      "Do not disrespect your country, do not disrespect the flag."

      Honest Translator: This actually has nothing to do with 'patriotism' but the punters are all hyper-partisan fascists so do. not. piss. off. the. customers. if you want to keep getting paid.

      When someone says 'do not disrespect' or demands respect what they're really demanding is *submission*.

      1. Citizen X - #6   8 years ago

        Mikey's been a huge fan of submission ever since his high school wrestling days. He still considers those the best 19 years of his life.

      2. Palin's Buttplug   8 years ago

        The NFL should tell anyone that puts race issues before football to go fuck themselves.

        They did for Limbaugh and now Kap deserves the same.

        1. Libertarian   8 years ago

          I am no Limbaugh fan, but I'd appreciate a quote from him that shows what a racist he is. Thanks in advance.

          1. Chinny Chin Chin   8 years ago

            In 2003 Rush said that Donovan McNabb wasn't that good, and implied he started because "the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well."

            The left predictably went berserk.

            1. MarkLastname   8 years ago

              Isn't this pretty much what leftists think of all white people? That we're not that good but the white supremacists who rule the world give us each a nice head start?

          2. Palin's Buttplug   8 years ago

            I said he is a race-baiter (he might be a racist too) just like Sharpton.

            Many examples follow:

            http://www.thedailybeast.com/rush-the-race-baiter

            1. Chipper Morning, Now #1   8 years ago

              I read that as Rush the face biter.

    3. widget   8 years ago

      Football is sliding down. It's not Kapernick and flag waving in the long run, it's the head injuries. It's a small family demographic change that causes this. A family with one boy will be less likely to send that boy to war or play football than a family with three boys. No spare boys.

      1. Palin's Buttplug   8 years ago

        Football is too popular to slide much.

        Boxing is still here and it would be subject to safety bans well before football.

        1. widget   8 years ago

          So Buttplug seems to be saying he actually payed to watch the mayweather vs mcgregor fight. This is how he knows stuff.

          1. Chipper Morning, Now #1   8 years ago

            I watched the fight. It was actually pretty entertaining.

            1. Eek Barba Durkle   8 years ago

              It was actually pretty entertaining.

              I guess...if you wanted to see an illiterate woman beater clown around for 3 rounds, and then systematically beat the shit out of someone far, far less talented and capable than himself.

              But, I know - Conor landed 110 punches! And the FULL THREE ROUNDS he had to throw anything he wanted at a stationary, non-fighting opponent had nothing to do with that.

              It was entertaining like pro rasslin is to some - it's not real, but it's good drama.

      2. lap83   8 years ago

        It's a small family demographic change that causes this. A family with one boy will be less likely to send that boy to war or play football than a family with three boys. No spare boys.

        I wonder about this. Do you know of any actual examples of people changing their mind about football because of the head injuries? Because the ones I know who are really into the sport don't seem to give a crap about the recent developments.

        1. lap83   8 years ago

          Personally, I would not actively encourage my son to pursue football in light of the head injuries...but I've never cared that much about the sport in the first place.

        2. Crusty Juggler   8 years ago

          Do you know of any actual examples of people changing their mind about football because of the head injuries?

          A few young professional football players have retired the last couple of years because they worry about head injuries, and there are plenty of stories - mostly from outlets like NPR, etc, - which push the theory that wealthier families are discouraging their children not to play football.

          I assume that the movie Concussion plays a role in influencing people, too. Whether or not people stop playing football in large enough numbers to matter, however, is just a guess.

          1. Crusty Juggler   8 years ago

            I would argue that a player like Chris Borland, who retired instead of playing out his first contract which would have earned him over two million dollars after four years, was experiencing the symptoms of some sort of head injury.

            Make that cheddah, kid!

          2. Chipper Morning, Now #1   8 years ago

            Some high schools are having trouble getting enough people for a football team. So far, it's only the ones with sucky teams, but this will become more common in the future.

            1. Crusty Juggler   8 years ago

              this will become more common in the future.

              Maybe! It could also just be a trend.

        3. chemjeff   8 years ago

          One of my coworkers, who is normally a big sports fan generally (mainly basketball, but he seems enthusiastic about all sports) has said point blank that there is no way he would let his son play football in highschool, because of the injury potential.

          1. Tom Bombadil   8 years ago

            It's also worth noting that it is a fucking retarded sport.

            1. Ron   8 years ago

              in reality any sport that can cause brain damage is stupid boxing football soccer baseball. Basketball is just people running back and fourth so thats brain numbing enough

        4. Ron   8 years ago

          My Brother played in High school but doesn't want his kids to play and he has three boys at the same time a friend of mine has a kid who plays football and they take him to summer camp out of California so that they can tackle. apparently they aren't allowed to tackle in practice anymore in California

    4. Unlabelable MJGreen   8 years ago

      What?

    5. $park? leftist poser   8 years ago

      Try to. Try and is incorrect usage.

  18. Rebel Scum   8 years ago

    OT: Hillary Clinton on tour and still blaming everyone except Hillary Clinton

    Hillary's going to set off this fall for an 15-city tour -- "Hillary Clinton Live" -- and her website promise she's going to "let loose" and "connect with audiences in a conversation about a story that's personal, raw, detailed and surprisingly funny." Well, she couldn't "connect" with voters before her crushing and humiliating defeat, but maybe she's better when she's getting paid.

    For the honor of sitting in that audience as the two-time loser blames the Russians and Barack Obama and Wikileaks and everyone but herself might cost you as much as $1,200.

    It will likely be humorous, just not how she thinks/means.

    "With humor and candor, she tells readers what it took to get back on her feet ? the rituals, relationships, and reading that got her through, and what the experience has taught her about life. She speaks about the challenges of being a strong woman in the public eye, the criticism over her voice, age, and appearance, and the double standard confronting women in politics," the website says.

    Um, ok...I don't think any of those words mean what she thinks they mean.

    1. Rebel Scum   8 years ago

      The whole show will be heavy on blaming Russia. "She lays out how the 2016 election was marked by an unprecedented assault on our democracy by a foreign adversary. By analyzing the evidence and connecting the dots, Hillary shows just how dangerous the forces were that shaped the outcome, and why Americans need to understand them to protect our values and our democracy in the future," the site says.

      **severe eye roll**

    2. Citizen X - #6   8 years ago

      With humor and candor, she tells readers what it took to get back on her feet ? the rituals,

      [ahem] Nightly blood sacrifices to the Black Goat.

      relationships,

      [ahem] Cthulhu.

      and reading

      A dog-eared copy of De Vermis Mysteriis bound in human skin.

      that got her through, and what the experience has taught her about life.

      How very, very, deliciously fragile it is in the face of the uncaring and unceasing horror of the universe.

      1. Chipper Morning, Now #1   8 years ago

        And by dog-eared, he meant the book had actual dog ears, which wiggled attentively whenever Hillary said something near the book, causing new lines to appear on the last page.

    3. lap83   8 years ago

      she tells readers what it took to get back on her feet

      hair of the dog?

      1. Tom Bombadil   8 years ago

        Forklift?

    4. Unlabelable MJGreen   8 years ago

      Is this her An Inconvenient Truth? Is she (occasionally) pacing around a stage and pointing to Powerpoint slides?

      With humor and candor, she tells readers what it took to get back on her feet ? the rituals, relationships, and reading that got her through

      What an ordeal it must have been, campaigning to rule the lives of 330 million people. I hope she recovered.

      1. Chinny Chin Chin   8 years ago

        Exactly what I was thinking. Had soooo many progressive friends complain, "Why didn't we see THAT Al Gore during the campaign?"

        1. Chipper Morning, Now #1   8 years ago

          Which copy number of the Al Gore are they referring to? I thought they all had the same programming.

          1. Zeb   8 years ago

            They tried to reprogram him once, but he just started banging whores.

    5. Libertarian   8 years ago

      "with humor and candor"

      Are those her pet cats, or what?

      1. Rhywun   8 years ago

        Her familiars.

    6. John DeWitt   8 years ago

      I see she's finally visiting Wisconsin. Wrong November, though.

  19. Tom Bombadil   8 years ago

    Kind of weird,

    NYC defies feds regarding cooperating with ICE saying the FEDs don't have anything to do with their local policing, but I'd wager they are first in line for the Military hardware handouts.

    1. loveconstitution1789   8 years ago

      NYT map of counties that received military surplus equipment as of Aug. 2014.
      Surplus map

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