The Fifth Column

Trump-Media Wars, Nancy MacLean's Smear, and the People vs. John McEnroe: New Fifth Column

Podcast takes aim at journalistic self-importance, politician awfulness, and Southie accents


Would the world be better served without having televised White House press briefings? Former press secretaries Ari Fleischer and Mike McCurry seem to think so, and so did Michael Moynihan and Kmele Foster…until I got all shouty about it near the end of the latest episode of The Fifth Column podcast. The three of us also dissect the Jake Tapper approach to factfulness in the Trump era, the president's war on Morning Joe, the dishonesty-riddled Nancy MacLean book Democracy in Chains, the effects of whiskey on Kmele's eye color, and John McEnroe's #problematic decision to answer a question about Serena Williams honestly. It's a fine episode, and you can listen to it right here:

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