Hillary Clinton Says She Takes Responsibility for Her 2016 Decisions, But Blames Russia, Far Right for Loss; Philippines President Blasts Chelsea Clinton; Florence Mayor Hosing Down Church Steps to Keep Lunching Tourists Away: P.M. Links

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  The former FBI director, James Comey, will testify in the Senate next week about his meetings with President Trump. Elon Musk says he'll resign from his White House advisory council posts if Trump withdraws from the Paris climate agreement.

• The White House press secretary, Sean Spicer, says the president and a small group of people know "exactly what he meant" by last night's now-deleted "covfefe" tweet.
• CNN has dropped Kathy Griffin from their New Year's telecast after controversy over a Trump beheading photo. The president said his 11-year-old son Barron Trump was having a hard time with it.
• Speaking at a coding conference in California, Hillary Clinton says she takes responsibility for every decision she made in the presidential campaign but Russia was the reason she lost.
• The Pentagon released video of a successful test of a missile defense system it said was meant to protect against potential long-range ballistic missiles from North Korea.
• Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte lashed out at Chelsea Clinton after she criticized comments he made that he would defend abuses by his soldiers even if they "raped three women." Duterte asked if Clinton reacted the same way to allegations about her father, President Bill Clinton.
• Authorities in South Africa warned that protestors were wrong about foreigners being behind child abductions.
• The mayor of Florence says the city will be hosing down church steps to prevent tourists from eating lunch on them.

Comments

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

The Pentagon released video of a successful test of a missile defense system it said was meant to protect against potential long-range ballistic missiles from North Korea.

Staaaaaaar Warrrrrrrss du du da du nuuuuuu!

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

^the basic lyrics I always imagined for the Star Wars theme.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Hello.

"Speaking at a coding conference in California, Hillary Clinton says she takes responsibility for every decision she made in the presidential campaign, but that Russia was the reason she lost."

Hillary Clinton. The Cleveland Browns of politicians.

[Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting]

No, Browns fans know their team sucks and when they lose, it's because the people in charge made bad decisions. Democrats don't even have that level of self-awareness.

[Rufus The Monocled]

She's another level of loser then.

Hilaloser.

[Crusty Juggler aka "Chad"]

BOOOOOO!

*throws catfish at Rufus*

[Rufus The Monocled]

AT LEAST I'M TRYING.

[Fist of Etiquette]

There is no try.

Oh, wait, my mistake. There actually is try. I checked.

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

Thank god, you're safe. Say something unFisty if you are under duress.

[Chipper Morning, Now #1]

Heeeelloooooory

[pulls slot machine lever]

[Enjoy Every Sandwich]

And why the fuck was Hillary invited to speak at a coding conference? I think she's demonstrated beyond any reasonable doubt that she knows nothing whatsoever about information technology.

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

Wtf... this link disappeared! Are you trying to make me look like a fool, Ed?

Wait a minute... *Stands up and looks around office for shady Russian operatives*

[Ed]

Weird, not sure how that happened

[Calvin Coolidge]

Was it a link to the old Bill Murray lounge singer character? I still hear his lyrics every time the theme plays. "Star Wars .... if you must BAAAAR wars, please don't bar STAAAAAR Wars, bar it from meeeee"

[BearOdinson]

The Clinton's are masters at the taking of full responsibility while not taking any of the blame.

[Juice]

And that is why they failed. /yoda

[Chipper Morning, Now #1]

You screwed up your yoda tags.

[Chipper Morning, Now #1]

Your yoda tags screw up you did.

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

Not with you the force is.

[B.P.]

Well, to be fair, there was that one time Janet Reno stepped up to take the, um, heat on behalf of the Clinton Administration.

[BearOdinson]

AH! Janet Reno, now he was a man's man!

[timbo]

I wouldn't f*ck Bea Arthur with Janet Reno's d*ck.

[BearOdinson]

Maybe not, but I bet she had a bigger member than most of the guys in the Commentariat!

[BearOdinson]

About the steps in Florence, what if they are eating the flesh and blood of Christ? Huh?

[The Last American Hero]

You still can't leave the wrappers lying around.

[Chipper Morning, Now #1]

"PLEASE DISPOSE SHROUDS OF TURIN IN PROPER RECEPTACLES"

[BearOdinson]

Which always got me thinking, I am supposed to sacrifice something of myself to my gods. That is trade off. Give a little of yourself and the gods may listen to your prayers. Even in Judaism, prior to the destruction of the Second Temple, that was the basic thinking (yes, a bit different, but in practice very similar).
But then this guy comes along and says his father created everybody and everything. But he made it a rigged game because we all have free will, but everyone choose badly (we are all sinners, right?). So he then has these same people kill his "son" (what about Jesus' toe nail clippings, are they holy relics? How about his excrement.) And in return for killing his "son", people get a free pass to eternal glory in the presence of this god, and son. You know, the same one we all just killed.

And some people think MY theology is cracked!

[MikeT1986]

1) Holy Foreskin was a thing.

2) nah just that it seems to have lost quite badly in the long run.

[BearOdinson]

Well, I figure the Jews created the modern state of Israel. Maybe we can take back the fine arts of burning and pillaging!

[Chipper Morning, Now #1]

Holy Foreskin was, and remains, my nickname in certain circles.

[Scarecrow Repair & Chippering]

Would that make you a .... circle jerk?

[Zeb]

Most theology is pretty whacked if you look at it too closely. Christianity does seem rather contrived when you put it that way. Gives people something to do, I guess.

[BearOdinson]

I am sure you are right. But, as far as giving people something to do, lets compare:

Christians Germanic Pagans
No sex outside marriage As much sex as you can get
No drinking (for some sects) Drink plenty (just keep your sword handy)
Self-flagellation Make the other poor bastard pay
Spread the gospel Rape, pillage and burn (just kidding about this one for today)
Humility Take pride in your deeds, but don't forget your shortcomings as well
Follow all the rules, and accept Die bravely in battle: fight, drink and fuck every day until Ragnarok!
Jesus, spend eternity playing a
harp in a white toga.

This is not a difficult choice people.

[BearOdinson]

FUCK! I formatted it all wrong. GODS DAMMIT!

[Zeb]

I'm sure you made an excellent choice of religion. If I had to pick one, I'd go with that over Christianity.

[Chipper Morning, Now #1]

[Tickles Zeb with a noodly appendage]

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

Noodly appendage was my nickname in.... ah never mind.

[timbo]

If a religion was created today that said:

[You will eat my flesh and drink my blood or else}, the ATF would go in guns a blazin.

[Bubba Jones]

No, the evil Jews who killed Jesus don't get a free pass.

Even though without the evil Jews killing Jesus, there is no resurrection and no salvation.

But, whatever.

Honestly, more people should be on board with a religion centered around Bill and Ted's "Be Excellent to Each Other."

[Paloma]

No, it's even crazier than that! Because Adam and Eve disobeyed God, we all have Original Sin. (Not exactly cause and effect thinking). So regardless, everyone still has to get old, sick and die. Also childbirth is painful. And if you don't work, you die sooner. So God says, I'll send my son to suffer and die really really painfully, even though HE never sinned! For all your sakes! But what do we get? We STILL suffer and get old and sick and die, only NOW, you get to go to HELL forever after you die. Because YOU made JESUS die!

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

Because YOU made JESUS die!

No that was the Jews.

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

Bear you have some nimble fingers there.

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

The former FBI director, James Comey, will testify in the Senate next week about his meetings with President Trump.

This testimony has been brought to you by Don King, now enjoy the show!

[Ron]

who will be first to fake out great analogy

[paranoid android]

Speaking at a coding conference in California, Hillary Clinton says she takes responsibility for every decision she made in the presidential campaign, but that Russia was the reason she lost.

Well as I recall, by Clinton's own calculations, she ought to have been 50 points ahead in the polls, so if the Russians could create that big of a swing I'm mighty impressed.

[CE]

I thought Obama said she didn't go to enough fish fry type events in Wisconsin. Were the Russians at the fish fry?

[Calvin Coolidge]

They don't fry the fish, they just cut off the head and throw it into the Borsch.

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

The White House press secretary, Sean Spicer, says the president and a small group of people know "exactly what he meant" by last night's now deleted "covfefe" tweet.

Sorry Sean, I don't speak Russian.

[WakaWaka]

"Elon Musk says he'll resign from his White House advisory council posts if Trump withdraws from the Paris climate agreement."

Say, this wouldn't be related to the fact that the agreement disadvantages his competitors? Nah, the planet, of course. We're all going to die

[timbo]

I doubt he goes far. Pieces of shit that depend on government subsidy usually get on board the propaganda train when told.

[Chipper Morning, Now #1]

Elon Musk, human paladin, does not tolerate any deviation from the true and narrow virtuous path.

[Rufus The Monocled]

One less crony to deal with.

[Fascist loofa-faced shitgibbon]

One less egg to fry
One less moocher, to pick up after...
I should be happy, but all I do is cry.

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

CNN has dropped Kathy Griffin from their New Year's telecast after controversy over a Trump beheading photo. The president said his 11-year-old son Barron Trump was having a hard time with it.

Barron Trump, the only white house kid that is free game for everyone to use for political gain, including daddy.

[Rufus The Monocled]

He's the 'Pass Go' card.

[Crusty Juggler aka "Chad"]

Ex Cherryville High teacher gets deal avoiding jail for having sex with student

The 17-year-old student said the relationship started on the social media app Snapchat and continued on a daily basis until the exchanges became flirtatious. Sparrow ended up taking the teen to her home, where they engaged in sexual intercourse, authorities said. Search warrants in the case showed that the student took a nude photo of Sparrow and shared it with his friends on Snapchat, police said.

What a little lucky douchebag. Seriously, bow-chika-wow-wow.

[BearOdinson]

First of all, regardless of the ethics of a high school teacher sleeping with a student, the kid was 17. Isn't that above the age of consent?

Second of all, it is the kid who should go to prison for sticking his dick into that. I mean DAYUM!

[Not a Libertarian]

it is the kid who should go to prison for sticking his dick into that.

Now I admittedly have a somewhat low opinion of you heterosexual men, filthy depraved creatures that you are.

But can it not be taken as a given that a heterosexual 17 year old male is prone to insert his penis in many unlikely places...

gym socks, fruit pies, farm animals, knots of wood......

[MarkLastname]

Prison? Kid needs therapy.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Search warrants in the case showed that the student took a nude photo of Sparrow and shared it with his friends on Snapchat, police said.

No one owns 1s and 0s. Be careful when you give them up.

[BearOdinson]

I can't emote this strongly enough:

WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU WANT TO LOOK AT HER NAKED????

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

Thank you for sparing me from this most malicious Crusty bait-and-switch.

[Zeb]

It takes all kinds to make the world go round.

[BearOdinson]

Then stop the world, I want to get off!

[Rufus The Monocled]

You're a jerk.

Bow-chika- vomit.

[Juice]

Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte lashed out at Chelsea Clinton after she criticized comments he made that he would defend abuses by his soldiers even if they "raped three women." Duterte asked if Clinton reacted the same way to allegations about her father, President Bill Clinton.

Talk about walking right into something.

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

Speaking at a coding conference in California, Hillary Clinton says she takes responsibility for every decision she made in the presidential campaign, but that Russia was the reason she lost.

As much as I want to believe she is slowly being driven mad... No politican actually believes Russia "decided the election"... that's a story to beguile the plebs. So I reckon Hilary is playing a long con at somehow getting in office after Trump is impeached for Russia.

Like if they stick Russia to Trump than the play is Hilary ought to be president.

[BearOdinson]

I wonder if Hillary is Loki and Trump is Mr. Wednesday and they are both conspiring to pull the 2 man long con? Or is Putin Loki?

Full disclaimer: While I thoroughly enjoyed American Gods (the book) and am enjoying the series, I in no way endorse the view the Odin would act in such a manner as Mr. Wednesday. Trying to make sure I don't die in a some terrible calamity which keeps me out of Valhalla.

[Stormy Dragon]

Mr. Wednesday isn't Odin. He's American Odin.

[BearOdinson]

I know, I know. I won't give any spoilers because of the show, but one word: Iceland.

Just wanting to make sure that the Allfather understands that I know which side of my bread is buttered!

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

No, no, no... Putin is just a red herring, as all Russians are when it comes to American politics.

Russia is the equivalent of: 'Hey look over there!'; and American politics is: 'while I sneak this wallet out of your back pocket.'

[CE]

No, they get Pence.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Speaking at a coding conference in California, Hillary Clinton says

Why on earth is Hillary Clinton speaking at a coding conference?

[some guy]

Because all things must be politicized these days. That's how high our quality of life is.

[timbo]

Because a fool and his money soon part.

Who could still be stupid enough to pay for that to appear?

[loveconstitution1789]

She is trying to reach all those working people in California for another popular vote win in 2020.

Haha!

[CE]

Because all the California coders gave her a ton of money last year, and they want to get something out of it.

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

Duterte asked if Clinton reacted the same way to allegations about her father, President Bill Clinton.

Zing!

[WakaWaka]

http://circa.com/politics/bara.....-americans

Is Reason ever going to do an article on those declassified NSA reports? Or did I miss it?

[DOOMco]

SH! there are important things going on! like some photo, and some sort of tweet.

[paranoid android]

Looks like Shackford wrote a piece when Charlie Savage originally broke the story:

http://reason.com/blog/2017/04.....f-domestic

[Unlabelable MJGreen]

To be fair, Robby didn't post anything that day, so a lot of folks had no reason to visit HnR.

[Chipper Morning, Now #1]

Lol. A burn so savage it could have the starring role in the classic A Bullet In The Arse.

[WakaWaka]

That isn't directly related to this disclosure. Although the article does mention a change in policy somewhat related to what was disclosed. But, what was disclosed showed that the intelligence community had already been violating existing policy.

Also, this article was written nearly a month before the release of these documents. So unless Shack has psychic powers (or rather the New York Times does, as his article is related to a NYT article), I'm going to take this as a "no they did not cover this".

[paranoid android]

But Circa didn't reveal anything that the NYT hadn't already covered, as James Rosen (who was initially popularizing the "the media is covering this story up meme") now admits .

Also, Shackford very clearly quotes the section of the NYT piece that mentions that the NSA was found to be in violation of the guidelines at issue, so I'm not sure what you're getting at.

[Calidissident]

I think Shackford wrote another article about it last week.

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

*reads the article*

I know I've made reference to wood chippers a time or two but let me be clear once and for all: I LOVE BIG BROTHER!

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

How can the most powerful man in the world be expected to know everything going on in his vast empire?

[Crusty Juggler aka "Chad"]

'Eight slices of something so ordinary evoke independence, consolation and joy': Teen is accepted to Yale after making admissions officer LOL by writing about her love of Papa John's pizza - but she's going to Auburn instead!

We really need to send some decent pizza down to Tennessee.

[Conchfritters]

Papa Johns is the worst. It took Papa Johns to make Dominos respectable in my eyes.

[SIV]

Auburn has far better barbecue than New Haven.

[Crusty Juggler aka "Chad"]

The black half of New Haven probably has some good bbq, but I'm sure you're right.

[Meh.]

I wasn't really that impressed by the writing in her pizza essay, although she did manage to name-drop Pavlov's dogs. It definitely had a lot more to do with her essay on reading 100 books a year. And obviously her grades, extracurriculars, etc.

[Stormy Dragon]

Everyone is ragging on the typo. Am I the only one who is more disturbed by the sentence just ending half way through without actually saying anything. What despite negative press coverage?

[WakaWaka]

I just assumed someone wrestled the phone away from him, which would be the first smart decision to come out of the administration since Gorsuch was nominated

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

+1 Hearty Guffaw

[Juice]

Did he fall asleep mid-tweet? Seems like it.

[Unlabelable MJGreen]

He had a stroke mid-tweet, and as if to prove how feckless the media truly is in the Age of Trump, nobody is reporting on it. My sources tell me the Surgeon General has delivered a sealed indictment to the Minority Whip to initiate removal proceedings pursuant to the 25th Amendment.

[Crusty Juggler aka "Chad"]

Shocking story of the day: Kangol moved jobs from China to Pennsylvania; says it's now losing money on every hat

But as labor costs went up, profits went down. Way down. The 149-year-old company behind Kangol says it's losing money on every kangaroo-logo cap knitted at its factory in Adamstown, 60 miles west of Philadelphia.

"It has been certainly a bigger challenge than what we could've ever dreamed," said Don Rongione, Bollman's fedora-wearing president and CEO.

The nation's oldest hatmaker expects a relatively quick turnaround once U.S. workers get better at making the popular Kangol caps. But Bollman's early struggles with Kangol help illustrate why the labor-intensive garment industry left the United States in the first place.

Duh doy.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Moreover, more than 97 percent of America's wardrobe still comes from abroad.

Wow. What's her name?

[pan fried wylie]

Anita Break.

[Unlabelable MJGreen]

Start making pussy hats, ya dinguses!

[Juice]

Yeah, they're losing money because of where they moved, not because their brand is outdated and no one buys it anymore.

[Crusty Juggler aka "Chad"]

I can see you're unfamiliar with Bruce Arians, head coach of the Arizona Cardinals.

[BearOdinson]

There was an Abbott and Costello bit about the Susquehanna hat company. I wish I could remember it, but it seems rather appropriate here.

[Zeb]

But they'll make it up in volume.

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

Authorities in South Africa warned that protestors were wrong about foreigners being behind child abductions.

I'll take, 'the guy standing right behind you' for $1200, Alex.

[Conchfritters]

It puts the lotion in the basket eats lunch off the steps, or it gets the hose.

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

The mayor of Florence says the city will be hosing down church steps to prevent tourists from eating lunch on them.

Is eating the flesh and blood of Christ still permitted?

[BearOdinson]

Now I know why you were so complimentary of my typing!

Seriously, I just got lucky that I had some downtime at the exact moment the PM links were posted!

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

Some of us make downtime for Reason PM links lol

Sorry boss, ya jabroni.

[BearOdinson]

I know, I really have to plan my days better!

[LoneWaco]

It's that time of year again. The church in the story, Santa Croce, field the Blues/Azurra in Calcio Storico, Historic Football aka Calcio Florentino. I tend to pull for the Whites/Bianchi of Santo Spirito, but I like the Blues too. Semi finals this year are June 10th and 11th. Finals are always June 24th for the Feast of Saint John. It's quite a spectacle. Livestream at RTV38.com. Old matches are available on Youtube. The winning team gets a cow.

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

Strangest spam bot I've ever seen, and I've been tricked on Tinder 🙁

[LoneWaco]

you shut up!

[BearOdinson]

Yeah, I understand most of the words in that post taken 1 at a time. But put together, all I see is word salad.

[Rufus The Monocled]

I think this is the first time I ever saw anyone mention this in a thread.

Chapeau to you sir.

[Unlabelable MJGreen]

Elon Musk says he'll resign from his White House advisory council posts if Trump withdraws from the Paris climate agreement.

"Damn! This bastard's read my book..." - DJT

[Unlabelable MJGreen]

CNN has dropped Kathy Griffin from their New Year's telecast after controversy over a Trump beheading photo. The president said his 11-year-old son Barron Trump was having a hard time with it.

It's OK, little guy. Anderson Cooper will still be there.

[John]

Iowahawk, as usual, nailed it. He said, "I don't like it when people get fired over politics, but I didn't the mob rules". Maybe Griffin and that rodeo clown who wore the Obama mask can do some kind of comeback tour together.

[John]

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-.....s-a-hidden

It's a message to Russia!!

[John]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....ident.html

I didn't mean to show that picture of the naked woman I surreptitiously took to the world. I just posted it to my Instagram account that has like a million followers. How was I supposed to know they were all going to see it?"

Dear, you should have seen if brain implants came with that boob job.

[Crusty Juggler aka "Chad"]

Elon Musk says he'll resign from his White House advisory council posts if Trump withdraws from the Paris climate agreement.

"I can save the world, and all I need is a lot of your money."

[John]

He is going to build himself a green friendly suit and become a crime-fighting superhero who takes on the oil companies and people who drive cars with V8 engines or barbecue in their backyard. Just call him Carbon Man.

[Zeb]

Can't be any stupider than Captain Planet.

[John]

Maybe I need to pitch this to DC comics.

[Chipper Morning, Now #1]

The only thing stupider than Captain Planet is Captain Planned Parenthood.

[John]

Captain Planned Parenthood. I feel a multiverse coming on here.

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

I'd be an instant fan boy of any RL superhero.

[John]

http://www.theatlantic.com/pol.....cs/528015/

Ben Sasse thinks the way to improve America's virtues is for people to read more books. File under "things so stupid only an intellectual could believe".

[Crusty Juggler aka "Chad"]

Aren't you a big reader?

[John]

I am a huge reader. And no one is going to become virtuous by reading books. If you are not moral, to begin with, you will never learn the right lessons from the books.

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

^Lots of this.

Though few are born moral, its about upbringing more than anything. Saying books would make a person more virtuous is like saying going to church would make a person more virtuous, nobody buys that shit anymore.

[John]

You know what makes people virtuous? An example. Morality is one of the few things that to some degree is from the top down. Our "elites" can't manage the economy or run other people's lives or do any of the shit they think they can do. They can, however, set an example that other people will follow. People look to successful people as an example because they want to be successful themselves. And if successful and powerful people are total shit bags, people will act the same figuring it worked for the successful why not them. They will also follow the example of the successful and powerful out of a sense of equality if nothing else figuring if they can get away with it so should everyone else.

People become moral because their parents and to a lesser degree society at large set an example of behavior that showed them that was the way to be to be successful in society. Sasse doesn't talk about that because being an elite holding himself to any standard of behavior instead of preaching to the lesser mortals is just not something that is done.

[Crusty Juggler aka "Chad"]

I don't know if reading alone can make a person virtuous, but I do think that an art form like film or literature can help expand a person's mind, and help them empathize with the situations of others, or become more compassionate for others.

[John]

I think you are right about that in most cases. Again, you need to have some kind of basis on which to experience the art and learn its lessons.

[Fascist loofa-faced shitgibbon]

Wait, let me get my notepad. Mr. I-know-everything is back.

[Chipper Morning, Now #1]

I disagree. A large part of morality is innate, but a large part is learned. Reading books can certainly make one more moral.

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

But that's not really reading books -- more fundamental to what you are describing is Experience itself.

[Crusty Juggler aka "Chad"]

Knowledge can be gained in many ways, including reading.

[Chipper Morning, Now #1]

I didn't learn anything from that comment.

[Rufus The Monocled]

If you're wired crooked all tales take on a different turn, brah.

[BearOdinson]

Ain't never had much use for none of that fancy book learnin

[John]

Intellectuals, since they are clever and good with ideas and words, convince themselves that the words have a magic power to change reality rather than reflect it. So they think that you can become moral by just thinking and talking about things rather than living. Sadly, it doesn't work that way. Ethics are if they are to be meaningful, practical and lived. Any idiot can wax philosophical about their moral principles. Intellectuals because they are lazy and often socially maladjusted convince themselves that the principles and the talking are what matter. Sadly, life isn't that easy. And the hard part and the part that matters is applying those principles, all of which are flawed and limited in some way, to the real world in all its messiness and limited information and mystery.

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

This analysis is on point.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Mystic John.

[Fascist loofa-faced shitgibbon]

"Any idiot can wax philosophical about their moral principles."

And you're just the idiot for the job.

[BearOdinson]

What if I read books like:
How to throw the best swingers parties?

or

Learn how to do animal fetishes the right way!

Will they make me more virtuous?

(I really don't care, because my definition of virtue is not necessarily the same as many people's)

[John]

It might not make you virtuous, but it would probably make you more fun to be around.

[Chipper Morning, Now #1]

Animal fetishes? Do tell.

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

Why tell when one could show -- Beastiality is one quick google search away.

[Chipper Morning, Now #1]

But I don't know John's last name.

[John]

You just need to know my screen name; Frank Buck Naked.

[MarkLastname]

Now, of Ben Sasse had been a good Republican and fallen line for Trump John would be singing his book praises and lamenting people for giving up books for blogs or whatever.

[Crusty Juggler aka "Chad"]

How Jared Kushner built a luxury skyscraper using loans meant for job-starved areas

The move was legal, and other developers have used similar strategies in recent years, often aided by state officials who welcome the infusion of cash. But it illustrates how Kushner, who ran his family's real estate company before he became a senior adviser to President Trump, and his partners exploited a loophole in a federal program that prominent members of both parties say has been plagued by fraud and abuse.

So the solution is...?

[John]

He engaged in legal real estate development. The bastard!!

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

So the solution is...?

Impeach Trump?

[Meh.]

So the solution is...?

MORE REGULATION

[Crusty Juggler aka "Chad"]

Thank you.

[BearOdinson]

AH getting rid of fraud and abuse, two thirds of the holy trinity of good government.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Huh, Kathy Griffin is apologizing the fuck out of this Trump decapitation thingy.

[John]

Her apology video was tragic-comic. It was probably the funniest thing she has ever done. She had this look that said "the Secret Service and my booking agent have been working me over all afternoon. For the love of God please forgive me."

[Rufus The Monocled]

Seriously, how in the world could she have thought this was a good idea?

Are liberals that stupid?

[timbo]

Way dumber when diagnosed

[John]

Yes. And that arrogant. Imagine being surrounded by people who will agree with you and tell you how smart you are whenever you say something no matter how stupid it actually is. That is the world a lot of liberals, apparently, including Griffin, live in. As long as you stay on the party line, nothing you say is ever too stupid or too offensive. It doesn't really encourage a lot of self-reflection needless to say.

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

Seriously, how in the world could she have thought this was a good idea?

She and basically everyone else lives in a bubble of their own choosing. But Twitter mobs are nothing short of the modern Golden Horde and no protective bubble or group insulation of any sort, that I have seen yet, has withstood the full might of a Twitter horde.

[Zeb]

Everyone she knows or ever talks to thinks that Trump is literally Hitler so it never occurred to her that it might anger some people.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

It is kind of amazing how comedic-artistic 'resistance stunts' have such a fine line between getting celebrated interviews on NPR an HBO Special and Courage awards and pretty much everyone (even those who agree with you) running for the exits. I guess Griffin found that line.

[Crusty Juggler aka "Chad"]

She has had at least one gig canceled and has lost an advertising job, so she should be apologizing.

[Rufus The Monocled]

See? Trump IS evil. Why can't anyone take a joke anymore??!

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

I like Iowahawk's take: She was either grilled by the Secret Service or her Booking Agent.

[timbo]

Because she realized she has been riding a gravy train of complete unfunniness since her days on Seinfeld.

She must be shitting herself.

I hope so because she sucks anyway.

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

At her age, this could be her last gig. Though she is now a martyr for the left so.. Maybe someone will toss her a bone.

[Ken Shultz]

I'm not going to be a hypocrite about this.

I think Kathy Griffin sportin' some Gwar level angst is about the only interesting thing I've ever seen her do.

Incidentally, I've seen Gwar do worse.

Check YouTube, and you can find Gwar disemboweling George W. Bush on stage and then beheading Darth Cheney.

Once we had regime change, you can also find video of Gwar beheading Barack Obama.

Actually, here's Gwar beheading Barack Obama and then tearing off Hillary Clinton's mammary glands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tm-mGdT1ZbY

As far as I'm concerned, Kathy Griffin doing something rude and obnoxious makes her uniquely qualified to host a New Year's Day show.

[Ken Shultz]

You know what's in bad taste?

"Seacrest out".

That's in bad taste.

[Chipper Morning, Now #1]

I haven't been to a GWAR show in years. I think it is time.

[MarkLastname]

Ya know, I don't think I could care less about the whole thing. An excuse to clutch perls.

[Ken Shultz]

Remember when everyone was talking about how impeachment was inevitable?

Seems like last year, doesn't it?

Wasn't that just . . . a few days ago?

[John]

It is amazing how fast this nonsense fades and moves onto something else. Remember when Trump telling the Russian Ambassador "classified information" was the end of the world? That was like a week ago, wasn't it?

[Rufus The Monocled]

'Member him groping vaginas had progs wondering what to tell their daughters?

I guess everyone survived that.

Just like they're going to survive every other panic they invent.

[John]

The reality is that Trump is just another Republican only with an interesting twitter account and a good looking wife. Whether that is good or bad depends on your perspective. Whatever it is, it isn't the Trumpapocolypse the entire Washington establishment was convinced would happen. Worse, a real estate developer and reality TV star is doing at least a credible job that is the holy of holies, the sacred office, of every power grubing partisan hack in Washington. God, that has to be killing them and why so many of them have gone batshit insane with Russian conspiracy theories.

[Ken Shultz]

I keep thinking, "Now they've cried one 'wolf' too many", but the well never seems to run dry!

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

Problem is, unlike the boy who cried wolf with nothing to see, to the prog eye, the wolf is right there in front of them.

[John]

Meanwhile, it turns out Obama was using the FBI and the IC to spy on his political enemies. Five percent of the searches were illegal according to the FISA court. And no one says a word about that.

[Hank Phillips]

To qualify for impeachment, first you have to win in the looter sense of the word. Congress has an 80% tar-and-feather-them rating, and you saw how well those bastards did in their own party primaries, right? God's Own Prohibitionists had to choose between a Canadian and a Real-estate developer in order to get the votes--that and NOT ban electricity.

[MarkLastname]

Looks like John finally made parole. Unfortunately he's under house arrest so he'll be commenting 15 hours a day.

[John]

Naw, I just bribed the guards to let me have access to a computer once in a while. Cell phones and blowjobs will get you anything in jail.

[Chipper Morning, Now #1]

Based on the number of comments you have posted today, I have to say I like your work ethic.

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

Don't mind me, I'm just chopping liver over here.

[Chipper Morning, Now #1]

Ok, I make a joke about John sucking a lot of dick, and you go all Hannibal Lecter on us?

[John]

Would it really be reason if it didn't involve dick sucking jokes?

[MarkLastname]

I do hear some of the guards do give pretty good blowjobs.

[Sevo]

"Elon Musk says he'll resign from his White House advisory council posts if Trump withdraws from the Paris climate agreement."

A serious threat to Elon's picking of the taxpayer's money; he should be frightened.
Oh, and Elon? Door, ass; you know.

[Hank Phillips]

I'm gonna MISS that guy or gal!

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

"You don't need to install any software, our system uses a web interface!"

Luckily, I speak fluent bullshit. Allow me to translate:

"When it inevitably fails, support for our fucked up web system will fall entirely on you, the customer."

[Hank Phillips]

Elon Muscovite: bye!
Hillary: So classing marijuana with cocaine and meth (instead of legalize it) and joining Communist Chinese efforts to cripple and tax US power production (the only real difference in the Dem-GOP platforms) had nothing to do with the Dems losing?
The Filipino Fuehrer: He may be a genocidal nationalsocialist, but he's the GO-Pee's genocidal nationalsocialist! (and their platform got the votes)!
The anti-missile: Everybody BUT Commie Korea knew about missile defenses in 1989.
Eytie church tourists: Hose those chintzy foreign bastards! Let 'em eat Portuguese or Dutch food!

[Sevo]

"Hillary Clinton says she takes responsibility for every decision she made in the presidential campaign, but that Russia was the reason she lost."

Ya know, she's proving quite often that the US was very fortunate to have elected someone twice as smart as she is.

[Calvin Coolidge]

Every minute that She Persists in clinging to the spotlight is a minute spent sucking the air out of the room for other Democrats, and is a gift to the Trump administration.

[Rich]

CNN has dropped Kathy Griffin from their New Year's telecast after controversy over a Trump beheading photo.

Good thing they dropped her before she gets charged with a hate criHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!! Damn, couldn't quite get it out!

[MarkLastname]

Forget flag burning; beheading in effigy is the free speech issue of our time.

[loveconstitution1789]

Remember when Democrats bad mouthed Reagan for the Star Wars Anti-ballistic missile program as impossible?

The USA has a workable anti-ballistic missile program years ago and this is just another system to reduce the threat of nuclear attack against America.

[Calvin Coolidge]

Remember when Ted Kennedy called ballistic missile defense "Star Wars", and the press took that pejorative and ran with it for decades?

[GILMORE?]

Elon Musk says he'll resign from his White House advisory council posts if Trump withdraws from the Paris climate agreement.

oh no, not that. whatever will the country do without his valued input

[Fascist loofa-faced shitgibbon]

"Elon Musk says he'll resign from his White House advisory council posts if Trump withdraws from the Paris climate agreement."

Don't let the government subsidies hit your ass on your way out the door.

[Calvin Coolidge]

"I take full responsibility, but it wasn't my fault" may push "I'm sorry .... if you were confused by my explanations for the email server" out of the GOAT conversation.