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Protests

Left and Right Street Mobs Rain on Portland Parade

The drama started with the inclusion of the Multnomah County Republican Party in the parade.

Christian Britschgi | 4.26.2017 2:00 PM

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The kick-off parade of Portland's annual Rose Festival was cancelled yesterday thanks to escalating threats from left-wing Antifa and pro-Trump militia types who over the past few days have been swapping promises of violent street confrontations at the event.

Thus, yet another aspect of American public life has succumb to the self-reinforcing provocateur tactics of extremist fringe groups.

The drama centers around the inclusion of the Multnomah County Republican Party (MCRP) in the 82nd Avenue of Roses Parade, which begins the city's Rose Festival.

Trouble began when Antifa leftist activists—acting under the monikers Direct Action Alliance and Oregon Students Empowered—created Facebook events which promised to confront the MCRP for the usual charges of hate mongering and fascism normalizing.

For the uninitiated, Antifa—short for anti-fascism—is a loose connection of anarcho-communists groups who seek to undermine the oppressive capitalist system we all toil under, mostly through blocking traffic and setting garbage cans on fire. These groups were part of the recent Berkeley brawl, and also showed up to smash Starbucks windows in DC on inauguration day.

The group said they were going to show up in force to protect minorities, including and limited to their LGBTQ+, Muslim, Latinx, Black, and Native neighbors from harassment and intimidation.

For the record, it's hard to think of a more embattled and despised minority than Portland-area Republicans.

James Buchal, chairman of the MCRP, said that the group was certainly concerned about threats from Antifa groups —which included promises on social media that Republican marchers would be "stabbed to death"—but said he was still saddened by the cancelling of the parade.

"Its a tradition," he says of the parade. "We march, the Democrats march, even the Greens now march." He noted that the MCRP had marched in every Avenue of the Roses parade without incident since he has been chairman.

Not helping the MCRP any was the promise from Joey Gibson—of the Facebook page Patriot Prayer—to also march in the 82nd Avenue of Roses parade as a means of protecting Portland Republicans.

Gibson released a video on Patriot Prayer's page Monday in which he ranted about his plans to confront any masked Antifa who dared to not show their face on the day, blending a professed support for free speech with grade-school level taunts.

"There's going to be a bunch of us going down on Saturday. You know the place, you know the time," he said in the video. "If you want to hurt us and you want to kill us, well the real men will be down there, and we'll be waiting."

The same day this video came out, an anonymous email was sent from an Antifa sympathizer to parade organizers saying that if the MRCP were allowed to march "we will have two hundred or more people rush into the parade, into the middle, and drag and push those people out" adding that "you have seen the power we have downtown and that the police cannot stop us."

The email also promises that protestors will only use non-violent methods (which you think would exclude pushing and dragging).

That email proved the final straw for parade organizers who said in a Tuesday announcement that "following threats of violence during the Parade by multiple groups planning to demonstrate at the event, we can no longer guarantee the safety of our community and have made the difficult decision to cancel the Parade."

The Direct Action Alliance sent out a press release expressing disappointment that the parade had been cancelled while still defending their actions saying "no Portland child will see a march in support of this fascist regime go unopposed."

Joey Gibson also released a video bemoaning the cancellation of the parade to a soundtrack of sad music. "These kids are extremely selfish," he said in reference to Antifa. "They don't care about other people, they don't care about their community."

What is perhaps most interesting about this sad little episode is that both Antifa and Joey Gibson's Patriot Prayer crowd framed their actions as some sort of defense of the parade and the Portland community.

Yet the only thing preventing the parade from going off without a hitch was the actions and threats of these two groups. Both were all too happy to sandbag a pretty innocuous parade for the purposes of political posturing and YouTube views.

Hopefully one day, Portlanders can again plan an event (with a handful of Republicans included!) where the only chance of cancelation comes from the very credible threat of rain.

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  1. $park? leftist poser   8 years ago

    Antifa?short for anti-fascism?is a loose connection of anarcho-communists groups who seek to undermine the oppressive capitalist system we all toil under

    Is this really what they claim their goal to be?

    1. WakaWaka   8 years ago

      I think behaving like fascists while accusing everyone else of being a fascist is what they actually do

  2. WakaWaka   8 years ago

    Seems like one side threatened violence (antifa) and another group threatened to use self-defense (prayer whatever group). Doesn't seem like both are equally to blame.

    1. SUPERHEAVYDOODY   8 years ago

      You are correct. I live in Portland. The reason given by the Rose Festival Assn. for canceling the parade was the threats issued by the anarchists. The Deplorables were simply responding, (much like bikers responding to the Westboro Baptists ). I'm very disappointed by the decision. Many community members, both participants and spectators will be denied a great time. If this was a threat to lgbtqlmnop participants it would not stand. In other news from the people's republic of the northwest, look for what one Seattle city councilwoman has called for city employees to do.

  3. Citizen X - #6   8 years ago

    Man, the new season of Portlandia's taken a turn.

  4. Fist of Etiquette   8 years ago

    For the record, it's hard to think of a more embattled and despised minority than Portland-area Republicans.

    Every Rose Festival needs its thorns.

    Really, Britschgi, you couldn't have thought up something as rudimentary as that pun and at least included it as alt-text? It's amateur hour around here.

    1. MarkLastname   8 years ago

      I know, what a britsch.

    2. GILMORE?   8 years ago

      Every Rose Festival needs its thorns.

      And every cowboy sings a sad, sad song.

  5. Mickey Rat   8 years ago

    Would there be "right" mob if the "left" mob had not promised to do violence to people they disagree with?

    The parade's cancellation is on the so-called "Antifa" thugs.

  6. Ron   8 years ago

    sounds like the right wing is promising to defend itself against the violence promised from the extremist left. I don't think the right is being extremest at all ,just defending themselves unless Reason no longer believes in the right to self defense. I can't call self defense extremism

    1. Zeb   8 years ago

      I think this is pretty much correct. The "Antifa" do seem to be the ones instigating the whole mess in the first place.

      The taunting from Joey Gibson goes a bit beyond just saying "we will defend ourselves". More like "bring it on assholes". Which I don't think is helpful. But others might see it differently.

      1. Mickey Rat   8 years ago

        Maybe not helpful, but the "Antifa" deserve nothing but scorn and contempt.

        1. Zeb   8 years ago

          I won't argue with you there.

        2. mtrueman   8 years ago

          ""Antifa" deserve nothing but scorn and contempt."

          Yes, Republicans are far more effective when it comes to violence, murder and mayhem.

          1. Zeb   8 years ago

            Well, yes, they do have a lot more people in government.

            The same can be said of Democrats.

            Antifa area bunch of pikers, doing all of their violence and mayhem on their own without any taxpayer support.

          2. MarkLastname   8 years ago

            Um ok.

      2. Ron   8 years ago

        it may not help but if the right stops defending then the left will have silenced them. The only reason the antifa assholes have had success is due to people sitting back time to stand before the antifa become more emboldened

        1. Zeb   8 years ago

          Maybe I'm too optimistic. But I think you just let the screaming assholes do their thing and they will annoy and alienate enough people. Make a point of fighting them in the streets and you give others an opportunity to draw false equivalences.

          The Antifa people are like the alt-righ white nationalists. They exist, but they are fringe actors and not at all part of the political mainstream. Let's not act like they have more power than they do, it will only make people think they are more relevant than they are.

        2. MarkLastname   8 years ago

          "Opposition never coverts an enthusiast, only England's him."
          I'm sure people like this Joey guy like to imagine they're intimidating leftists everywhere with their bravado, but the reality is they're only galvanizing them and escalating the conflict.

          That is how political violence works. I also seriously question the self discipline of the local Trumpkin militia to avoid committing acts of violence.

      3. Bill Dalasio   8 years ago

        I agree that it isn't helpful. But, I also don't think people have an obligation to be helpful. People have a right to say bring it on to people threatening them.

    2. Professor Woland   8 years ago

      That would be true if the Multnomah County Republicans had asked them to come and help. They did not. The right wing groups wanted to come there in the hopes that there would be a brawl. Had it just been the threats from the Spartacist Larpers, the parade likely would have gone on, ironically, Portland cops really like bashing hippies. It was the threat of of another outbreak of risible, Berkley style street fighting that led to the cancellation.

      I don't think it's a good idea to treat antifa's right wing reflection as heroes of freedom. They aren't. I will defend their right to speak freely, etc., but we shouldn't romanticize them anymore than some romanticize McCarthy/HUAC era commies. Yes, they deserve to have their rights respected just as much as anyone else, but alt right goons are not friends of freedom, they talk a good game about the Constitution and liberty when it's convenient for them, but just like the 50s commies, if they ever ascended to power those bastards would be every bit as bad as Bernie bros or Liz Warren or any of the ghouls of the left.

      1. Hal Jordan   8 years ago

        No, you have that wrong. The MCRP invited Trump support groups to come and march with them. There was no "hope for a brawl" at all. The hope was the ability to be more visible in the community, carry some pro-Trump signs and flags, and meet with other like-minded friends. But since antifa believes that any Trump supporter is automatically a Nazi, they created an event for the same date and time as the parade and started making threats on their Facebook page. One of the antifa posters threatened to shoot, stab, or fight the Nazis (us). That entire thread was deleted, but then someone decided to send a threatening email to the parade organizers, so that was the end of that event.

        As for the "if they ever ascended to power" comment, that has already happened, and the interested student may notice that the planet is still spinning on its axis.

  7. Kivlor   8 years ago

    Remember kids, in Libertarian Land, threatening to stab to death people marching in a parade is no worse than pledging to protect said people from being stabbed to death. Both sides are equally to blame. Or at least close to equal. There's no real distinguishable characteristics between those two positions.

    1. Half-Virtue, Half-Vice   8 years ago

      Nobody left here has any illusions about that point.

      1. Kivlor   8 years ago

        Scroll on down to Hazel, just below me. All them evil Fascists in charge of the Republican party...

        They're just as bad.

        1. Careless   8 years ago

          Fuck, she's getting stupider by the day.

  8. HazelMeade   8 years ago

    To be fair, the label "anti-fascist" seems more fair ever since the Republican party got taken over by the alt-right with their volksgemeinschaft politics.

    This all seems to very reminiscent of 1930s Germany where the lead opposition to the fascists was the communists.
    National socialism vs. international socialism.

    1. WakaWaka   8 years ago

      Woah- that was a sublime degree of derp

      1. Microaggressor   8 years ago

        If you have an R next to your name, you're literally no different than Donald Trump. Bash the fash!

    2. NotAnotherSkippy   8 years ago

      Gorsuch and Goering both have names that start with 'g.' Coincidence? I think not!

      1. Scarecrow Repair & Chippering   8 years ago

        Don''t forget the two G-eorges, W. and III.

        1. J. C. Salomon   8 years ago

          But they're G as in Goebbels, not G as in Goering.

    3. Quo Usque Tandem   8 years ago

      I personally see very very very....little similarity between the US today and Germany in the 1930s. Because someone wins an election with "populist" support or "Volksgemeinshcaft" politics does not a Nazi make. Trump may be a lot of things [megalomaniac comes to mind] but he is no Hitler, as much as you may want him to be.

      Of course you are welcome to see whatever you believe, but just don't expect much sympathy outside your own little echo chamber of like minded rubes.

      1. HazelMeade   8 years ago

        There are a number of overt similarities between Trumps professed beliefs and fascism.
        1. Support for the basic structure of the social welfare state - Trump supports social security and medicare, and isn't too interested in actually repealing the ACA.
        2. Corporatism. He wants "public-private partnerships" to build infrastructure. Enlisting private industry to pursue national goals - especially national greatness agendas.
        3. National greatness, nationalism in general. I mean this one is really obvious - Trump is as nationalist as they come. Anti-trade, anti-immigrant, flag worshipping, wants to dramatically increase military funding. Make America Great Again.
        4. Scapegoating of immigrants and minority groups like Muslims and Mexicans.

        That said he's not Hitler, he's somewhere more on the level of Juan Peron. He's an American version of the Latin American caudillo.

        1. J. C. Salomon   8 years ago

          1. So he's no more "fascist" than any other mainstream American politician. Okay, I get it: he's more Statist than you'd like, but that doesn't get the fascist label?especially when the conversation is about comparing him to other politicians.
          2. Please look up what fascist Corporatism actually involved, instead of guessing at its meaning from the part of the word you recognize.
          3. Nationalism is not indicative of fascism; please stop spreading Soviet propaganda.
          4. 'Illegal' immigrants and 'jihadi' Muslims.

    4. Quo Usque Tandem   8 years ago

      I personally see very very very....little similarity between the US today and Germany in the 1930s. Because someone wins an election with "populist" support or "Volksgemeinshcaft" politics does not a Nazi make. Trump may be a lot of things [megalomaniac comes to mind] but he is no Hitler, as much as you may want him to be.

      Of course you are welcome to see whatever you believe, but just don't expect much sympathy outside your own little echo chamber of like minded rubes.

    5. Careless   8 years ago

      you really are a retard.

  9. Citizen X - #6   8 years ago

    For the uninitiated, Antifa?short for anti-fascism

    Pay no attention to the enthusiastic embrace by antifa types of fascist tactics and ideas about freedom of expression!

    ?is a loose connection of anarcho-communists

    There is not actually this idea. You cannot get to a stateless society by first making the state omnipotent. I'd rather take political advice from Richard Marx than Karl.

    1. Libertarian   8 years ago

      What's Groucho, chopped liver?

      1. Citizen X - #6   8 years ago

        He would never belong to any political movement that would have him.

        1. Libertarian   8 years ago

          Those are my principles and if you don't like them, well . . . I have others.

    2. Microaggressor   8 years ago

      The Marxist article of faith is that the state will "wither away" after the New Soviet Man has been created, by the total state's eugenics program.

      To these people, the ends justify the means.

      And yes, they are really that stupid and they really believe they can eugenically stamp out individual self interest. And they really believe that a total state will voluntarily relinquish its power.

      Now you know why commies get thrown out of helicopters in some parts of the world with first hand experience of what happens when they come to power.

      1. Zeb   8 years ago

        Commies are definitely the evil ones, but libertarians might have a similar problem of realism in believing that they can stamp out people's apparently innate desire to be ruled and taken care of by powerful leaders.

        1. Microaggressor   8 years ago

          Most libertarian activists I know try to educate people peacefully, not put them into camps.

          1. Half-Virtue, Half-Vice   8 years ago

            It's grueling work.

          2. Zeb   8 years ago

            Of course. I'm just narrowly comparing the necessity of changing human nature to make either political philosophy really work out.

            Obviously, I have a much more positive view of libertarians than anarcho-commies. And libertarians have a better understanding of human nature, I think. But they do have a little blind spot in underestimating how much less most people care about individual liberty than about safety and security. I also think libertarian ideas have a much more positive effect on existing government and politics than communist ones do.

            1. MarkLastname   8 years ago

              inwould cynically contend that human nature's imperfections are a driving motivation for a smaller (but non nonexistent) state. The state is the most efficient means by which the masses convert their imperfections into (disastrous) policy.

        2. Azathoth!!   8 years ago

          Why would libertarians try to stamp out people's apparently innate desire to be ruled and taken care of by powerful leaders?

          People can want that if they want.

          People can surrender to 'leaders' if they want.

          There's nothing wrong with that.

          Wrong comes when you try to coerce other people into doing the things YOU like against THEIR will.

    3. HazelMeade   8 years ago

      I'm not sure the antifa are actually state socialists in that way. They aren't necessarily following Marx's formula. Most of them would likely argue that the true anarchist state would lack formal property rights and therefore have less of a state than the libertarian minarchist state. They would have some sort of consensus committee based system for deciding who gets to use what stuff.

      That said, most of them are probably not terribly intellectually coherent and are just in it for getting laid and smashing shit up.

      1. Microaggressor   8 years ago

        You do not need a state to enforce property rights. Jesus Christ.

        They would have some sort of consensus committee based system for deciding who gets to use what stuff.
        Only a state can enforce these decisions.

        1. HazelMeade   8 years ago

          Go argue with them. I'm just saying they have their own wierd philosophy and it isn't identical to Marxist state communism.

          1. wareagle   8 years ago

            Their philosophy is no more complicated than "we hate everyone that does not believe everything that we believe."

            1. HazelMeade   8 years ago

              There's certainly a high degree of tribal identification involved.
              It's almost not really about beliefs at all, but if you are "one of us", or "one of them". Being "one of us" essentially involves mouthing the correct denunciations of the capitalist system. Best not to get into too much detail about what you would replace it with. The agenda is set by others, mainly intellectuals in academia.

      2. Rhywun   8 years ago

        Yes, most of them are just standard-issue leftists. "Give me free shit" and the like.

        1. Scarecrow Repair & Chippering   8 years ago

          That's it, spoiled brats who are so used to free stuff from mommy and daddy that the idea of having to earn your way is anathema to them. So they throw temper tantrums in the street instead of the kitchen floor.

        2. MarkLastname   8 years ago

          There may be a slight difference. Standard prog: "give us free shit, government." Anarch-commie: "let's take shit from people and not pay for it because it really belongs to us; and let's burn some stuff on our way out."

      3. Quo Usque Tandem   8 years ago

        "They would have some sort of consensus committee based system for deciding who gets to use what stuff."

        Or, to put it another way, "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need?"

        Sounds pretty Marxist to me.

    4. Zeb   8 years ago

      And yet, there seem to be a lot of them about. I've never been quite able to figure out what they do believe. I don't think they advocate for an all powerful state, to be followed by peaceful anarcho-communism. But I have no idea how they think you do get there. But to be fair, I also don't know how an-caps think you get from here to anarchy either.

      I'm more of your pragmatic, philosophical anarchist: anarchy is reality. Government is just some people who think they can tell everyone what to do.

      1. Microaggressor   8 years ago

        I also don't know how an-caps think you get from here to anarchy either.

        I don't think you can.

        I'm more of your pragmatic, anarchism would be the ideal economic model for growth, but it's not achievable in the real world. Human nature leads to the formation of states. But I would love to be proven wrong.

      2. wareagle   8 years ago

        they appear more of an against group than for anything in particular beyond favoring the silencing of anyone who disagrees with them. They don't march or gather or whatever to advance any idea; it's almost always in response to someone else and carries the implicit threat of violence. I'm telling you; someone is going to have to be killed before we get more than Bernie saying Coulter's speech is not scary.

        1. Zeb   8 years ago

          It does look that way sometimes, but anarcho-communists have been around for a long time and they do have their own intellectual tradition.

          But if you are talking about the current crop of "antifa" people, it does seem to be mostly reactionary against whoever they decide is representing the fascists.

      3. Scarecrow Repair & Chippering   8 years ago

        I also don't know how an-caps think you get from here to anarchy either.

        My feeling (!) is that it will follow in the very general footsteps of how the church got pushed aside as governments came into power. The church used to run everything, one way or another, but as societies got a little richer and kings started appropriating more of that, kings had their own agendas and the church gradually got isolated into the spiritual side of things while kings took over the materialistic side.

        I think it possible that Bitcoin, Uber, AirBnB, and the like may gradually shift a lot of day-to-day life into a realm that the government can't control very well. Darkweb and all that. Some small things may or may not be weather vanes here, the Libertarian moment of Welch and Gillespie -- even Obama complained about excessive occupational licensing. Maybe in a decade or two, things like that will be seen as the beginning of government retreat from controlling daily decisions. Carter got the government out of a lot of airline and trucking decisions.

        I don't insist on it. I won't argue for it. I just think that may be one possible route to practical anarchy. Eventually the government would handle the crap that doesn't really matter to most people, still sucking up taxes, but gradually less and less, just as we now have much better quantity and quality of food at much less cost.

  10. Longtobefree   8 years ago

    With all the military equipment given to the cops, how the hell can they NOT guarantee public safety?
    As the sergeant said "kill 'em all and count the bodies".

    1. Half-Virtue, Half-Vice   8 years ago

      The day the cops open fire on these kids is the day their, whatever, 'movement', gets a tenfold boost.

      1. Hal Jordan   8 years ago

        After antifa got chased out of a recent Berkeley event, they have been talking about going to martial arts training and carrying guns. I don't know what the result would be if they tried to "off a pig," but it wouldn't be a tenfold boost.

  11. Half-Virtue, Half-Vice   8 years ago

    Conflating standard issue team red with alt-right fringe and calling them fascists is just beyond the pale of successful strategy.

    These kids are just plain dumb. They don't have the numbers to fight everyday conservatives numbering, what... 50 million?

    1. HazelMeade   8 years ago

      This is fair. Pretty good chance that whoever these people are marching they are boring mainstream Republicans, and not alt-right fascist types.

      That said, who the hell is "Patriot Prayer" ? Sounds like some sort of religious militia group, but who knows. Maybe they are alt-right aligned in some way.

      If there actually was an alt-right group involved, I'd probably just sit back and pop popcorn and let them beat the shit out of eachother.

      1. Kivlor   8 years ago

        Well, their page self-describes as "Patriot Prayer is about fighting corruption and big government with the strength and power of love. JOEY GIBSON."

        The video Gibson put out is about not being violent. It's about getting along even if you don't like Trump--and continuing to oppose him without violence. It's about coming together to support freedom. Pretty funny actually, he's a bit of a goof. He even tries to say that it's only some of antifa that's bad, and that they just need to work together to clean up the violent members.

        That's the evil alt-right Patriot Prayer's violent message to Antifa. Boy. What thugs.

      2. Careless   8 years ago

        If you weren't too stupid to be morally culpable, I'd call you a real piece of shit.

  12. Libertarian   8 years ago

    Does that guy in the pic look like he's in crisis? Because to me it doesn't look like he's having a crisis.

    1. Rhywun   8 years ago

      Maybe there's a Republican standing outside the frame.

  13. Azathoth!!   8 years ago

    How do you write this--

    What is perhaps most interesting about this sad little episode is that both Antifa and Joey Gibson's Patriot Prayer crowd framed their actions as some sort of defense of the parade and the Portland community.

    After writing this--

    Trouble began when Antifa leftist activists?acting under the monikers Direct Action Alliance and Oregon Students Empowered?created Facebook events which promised to confront the MCRP for the usual charges of hate mongering and fascism normalizing.

    And then have the nerve to say this--

    Yet the only thing preventing the parade from going off without a hitch was the actions and threats of these two groups. Both were all too happy to sandbag a pretty innocuous parade for the purposes of political posturing and YouTube views.

    The only 2 groups that caused ANY problem here were the DAA and the OAE. Gibson's group was entirely reactionary.

    (con't)

    1. Azathoth!!   8 years ago

      And then this--

      Hopefully one day, Portlanders can again plan an event (with a handful of Republicans included!) where the only chance of cancelation comes from the very credible threat of rain.

      after writing this--

      "Its a tradition," he says of the parade. "We march, the Democrats march, even the Greens now march." He noted that the MCRP had marched in every Avenue of the Roses parade without incident since he has been chairman.

      The MCRP has been in EVERY parade--until the antifa terrorists forced this one to be cancelled.

      STOP EQUIVOCATING.

      1. WakaWaka   8 years ago

        This is his cocktail piece. Gets him into a lot of respectable parties

        1. Half-Virtue, Half-Vice   8 years ago

          Damn your nimble fingers Waka!

      2. Half-Virtue, Half-Vice   8 years ago

        Cock. Tail. Parties.

        You'd understand if you'd ever been.

        1. Rhywun   8 years ago

          Cock. Tail. Parties.

          You make them sound a lot more interesting than they probably are.

          1. Microaggressor   8 years ago

            You get to share fruit sushi with Robby.

            1. Rhywun   8 years ago

              I've never heard it called that before, but... OK.

          2. HazelMeade   8 years ago

            Yeah, it's not about the cocktails. It's the access to people who can get you drugs. Good drugs. Not meth and opiods, but LSD and Ecstasy and coke and weed.

            If you hang out with conservatives, at best you're going to get some oxycontin pills. If you hang out with progressives you'll have a much easier time obtaining weed and other party drugs.

    2. HazelMeade   8 years ago

      True, but the better reaction to being threatened with anti-fascist mobs is to explain that you're not a fascist, make it clear that you're not fascist with your words and actions, not to invite some fascists to show up to defend you (assuming that's what Patriot Prayer represents).

      If Patriot Prayer is some sort of alt-right aligned militia type organization, then their presence (if not strictly disavowed by the MCRP) would legitimize the "anti-fascist" protests. That would be playing into their hands, in other words.

      1. Microaggressor   8 years ago

        explain that you're not a fascist, make it clear that you're not fascist with your words and actions

        If you really think that would work, maybe you need a holiday in Cambodia.

      2. wareagle   8 years ago

        you're giving the antifa people credence that is wholly undeserved. These people have been nuts since the election. And how do you explain that "you're not a fascist" to people who believe everyone outside of themselves is a fascist? They don't draw any line between Aryan Nation and RINOs.

      3. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   8 years ago

        True, but the better reaction to being threatened with anti-fascist mobs is to explain that you're not a fascist, make it clear that you're not fascist with your words and actions

        There's a long history of this being highly effective.

        And it's fair. Like that one time when I had someone scream at me that I was a racist because I thought the government footprint could be slightly smaller, the onus is totally on me to prove I'm not.

        1. HazelMeade   8 years ago

          Punching them in the face doesn't prove you aren't a racist, either.
          A lot of politics is about which side *looks worse*. By refraining from punching the other guy in the face, you make HIM the bad guy. Responding to screaming with violence makes you the bad guy.

      4. Ron   8 years ago

        I think talking to the antifa groups along time ago hence their violent reactions of late to people even before they speak. Antifa as declared war on free speech, time to make speech free again

        1. HazelMeade   8 years ago

          I would definitely prefer it if the anti-fascist groups directed their ire at ICE raids and deportation orders rather than Milo Yiannopolous speeches. They are kind of pussies for choosing targets who aren't actually armed agents of the state/

      5. Bill Dalasio   8 years ago

        True, but the better reaction to being threatened with anti-fascist mobs is to explain that you're not a fascist, make it clear that you're not fascist with your words and actions,

        Yeah, lots and lots of luck with that whole "reasoning with totalitarian thugs". thing.

        http://reason.com/blog/2017/02.....d-white-ma

      6. MarkLastname   8 years ago

        The appropriate response is to tell them to fuck off and if they get violent, call the police.

        It's cops' jobs to put these douche bags in cages when they get out of hand, it's what they get paid (and in theory trained) for.

        I'm happy to let them fire water cannons on rioters; and if they go to far, maybe we'll get some lefties to support public sector union reform.

        1. HazelMeade   8 years ago

          Right. You make a polite civil response and then walk away, and if they get violent, you call the police. You don't respond with "we're going to send some of our boys down to beat the shit out of you" or anything to that effect.

      7. Katherin Kirkpatrick   8 years ago

        The mobs are politely explaining that they will hurt people who disagree with them. And no doubt they are also holding their pinkies up when hurling bricks through shop windows. Emily Post would be pleased.

  14. Don't look at me.   8 years ago

    Hooray! We finally found a way to stop wasting time on stupid parades.

  15. damikesc   8 years ago

    Not sure how this can be blamed on pro-Trump militia types. Antifa threatened violence. The "militia" said they'd protect Republicans from the usually violent antifa groups who will, eventually, murder somebody.

    Antifa needs to be shot down hard by the government. And since Progressive governments are in bed with them (funny how few arrests have arisen from the Berkeley riots and the mayor is a supporter of one of the most radical antifa groups, BAMN), it's up to the Feds to protect the rights of all citizens.

    How can a group that has promised to stab Republicans and already promised violent somehow equivalent to a defensive group who promises to return fire with fire? The police sure as hell won't do it.

    Why Portland simply doesn't deny access to the parade to anybody who is wearing a mask is baffling.

  16. RG   8 years ago

    The fringe left seems to get away with violent threats and actions with no repercussions from campus/local police, the media, etc.

    Compare that to the national media/politician pants shitting when Jewish centers received threats. There were demands that Trump address it. That was up until a black leftist and an Israeli teenager were found to be behind the threats.

  17. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   8 years ago

    I'm really trying to be all fair-minded here, getting all "on the one hand/on the other hand", but it sure seems like this Antifa people started it.

  18. Citizen X - #6   8 years ago

    One thing's for sure - Elliott Smith would never have stood for this crap.

  19. Unicorn Abattoir   8 years ago

    The group said they were going to show up in force to protect minorities...

    That's awful nice of those anarcho-communists to look out for us free-market libertarians like that.

    1. Microaggressor   8 years ago

      You wish. Everyone knows the R next to your name means you're seconds away from shooting the nearest Muslim transgender, but on friendly terms with the Randroids.

      1. Unicorn Abattoir   8 years ago

        If we called ourselves Randinistas, they'd welcome us with open arms.

    2. Rhywun   8 years ago

      protect minorities

      They do seem to be all straight white people, don't they.

  20. DanO.   8 years ago

    Thus, yet another aspect of American public life has succumb [sic] to the self-reinforcing provocateur tactics of extremist fringe groups.

    OMG the leftist thugs are taking over America OK just a couple of places on a couple of dates but still.

    1. NotAnotherSkippy   8 years ago

      It was just a few broken windows.

    2. Careless   8 years ago

      And here's DanO to defend fascism. You keep on keeping on, you brave soul

  21. Ron   8 years ago

    for those complaining about Patriot Papers role in this just consider them a voluntary police force for the MCRP since the government police refuse to do their jobs whenever the Antifa groups show up.

    1. DanO.   8 years ago

      Libertarians calling for more jackbooted thug police presence to bash leftist heads. Hilarious. The chickens are roosting in droves.

      1. RG   8 years ago

        Who said anything about busting heads? The leftists threatened stabbings. Try reading comprehension.

        1. Unicorn Abattoir   8 years ago

          DanO is a true socialist. He's got a bucket of stupid and he's gonna spread it around to everyone.

      2. MarkLastname   8 years ago

        Not really. We are required to pay the police to protect us; it's entirely fair that we demand they carry through.

        The whole "omg libertarians using public servinces!!" Schtick will only be ironic when paying for those public services becomes optional.

        Also, learn to read, shit for brains.

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  23. Fuck You - Cut Spending   8 years ago

    I pity those who find pleasure in state-sanctioned parades.

    1. Quo Usque Tandem   8 years ago

      Fuck you quit spending.

      I like it; they should rename this whole blog FYQS; gets right to the point of the matter.

      Problem is a plurality of citizens in this country are quite convinced that none of us can survive, much less remain civilized, without government taking over more and more of their lives. And making sure everyone else does what they want them to do.

  24. Rebel Scum   8 years ago

    hate mongering and fascism normalizing

    All the while advancing hate mongering and fascism normalizing...Someone really needs to teach these snowflakes what fascism actually is so they maybe they can stop advancing it.

  25. Uncle Jay   8 years ago

    RE: Left and Right Street Mobs Rain on Portland Parade
    The drama started with the inclusion of the Multnomah County Republican Party in the parade.

    Yeah, democracy can be messy.

  26. Uncle Jay   8 years ago

    RE: Left and Right Street Mobs Rain on Portland Parade
    The drama started with the inclusion of the Multnomah County Republican Party in the parade.

    Yeah, democracy can be messy.

  27. Uncle Jay   8 years ago

    RE: Left and Right Street Mobs Rain on Portland Parade
    The drama started with the inclusion of the Multnomah County Republican Party in the parade.

    Yeah, democracy can be messy.

    1. SUPERHEAVYDOODY   8 years ago

      Oh you mean the inclusion that happened ten years ago? This is nothing more than anti-Trump zealots who have been empowered by the nonresponse of the city following the election. These people are nothing more than fascists dressed up as fascists.

      1. Hal Jordan   8 years ago

        What "nonresponse of the city" are you talking about? The Portland Police have been doing a great job since the Mayor let them do their jobs against the violent protesters.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puefy10gvcg

        Here's my favorite example. Not much happens until about 6:00, and no one could call that a nonresponse. I love how the guy with the bullhorn gets cut off in mid-chant.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2i9mjPSdxw

  28. SUPERHEAVYDOODY   8 years ago

    I'm still wondering ,after living in Portland for 40+ years, what minorities need protection from the Mult.Co. Republican party. Cops with dead animals and nooses left on porches of blacks? Yes. Mentally ill persons killed by police? Sure. Absurd zoning laws for gay owned business? Absolutely. I wonder why these asshats don't burn city hall instead.

  29. GILMORE?   8 years ago

    The group said they were going to show up in force to protect minorities

    Unless of course its a minority opinion

  30. SUPERHEAVYDOODY   8 years ago

    Christian Britschgi. Do you even fact check? Come home lad. Or how about speaking to the R.F.A. or the M.C.R.P.? Not only were threats of dragging issued, but stabbings and shootings of the M.C.R.P.. Also given as a reason by the R.F.A. was the police and mayors unwillingness to allocate more resources.

  31. pan fried wylie   8 years ago

    Antifa area bunch of pikers, doing all of their violence and mayhem on their own without any taxpayer support.

    Their parents probably pay taxes.

  32. IceTrey   8 years ago

    Why can't they still meet up and go at it?

  33. Katherin Kirkpatrick   8 years ago

    Left "and right" street mobs? You don't get 'round to Portland much, do you Mr. Britschgi? Perhaps they should rename your magazine Make Believe.

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