Killing Bill O'Reilly
As the longtime Fox host is shown the door, let's pause to remember that ever-so-brief moment when he represented something new.


You young folks might not believe this, but there were a few months in 2000 and 2001 when Bill O'Reilly felt refreshing. It's not that the Fox News host was all that better then than now: He was already a blustering blowhard with a transparently phony man-of-the-people schtick. It's just that he's the guy who knocked Larry King Live off its ratings pedestal, and at that point Larry King was so damn tired that you can't imagine what a relief it was to have a new 800-pound gorilla in town. Besides, that changing of the guard didn't just mean that one show was drawing more viewers than another. With King dethroned, a new era of more explicitly opinionated cable news was fully underway; and as terrible as the new order could be, I still preferred it to what came before.
If anyone at CNN came close to the impossible goal of not having a point of view, it was King, if only because he had reached some ethereal state where he didn't seem to know who he was interviewing half the time. O'Reilly may have had some dumb opinions, but at least he had opinions in the first place, and at least he wasn't shy about owning them. He even had some opinions that were unusual for Fox: At various points he has opposed the death penalty, endorsed campaign finance reform, and otherwise broken with the current conservative consensus. In the cable-news environment at the turn of the century, this felt almost like authenticity.
The O'Reilly age soon felt nearly as predictable and contrived as the order it had overthrown, and O'Reilly himself quickly showed us how often he could be a bully or a fool. Fortunately, still more alternatives were on the way: The internet became a mass phenomenon, and for all its flaws the net is still a great leap forward over the cable crew. And now O'Reilly's reign is coming to a formal end: He faces multiple credible accusations of sexual harassment, and with antsy advertisers pulling out of his show Fox has decided to cancel it.
I can't say I'll miss him. But I'll remember those months, or that month—or maybe it was just a week?—when the buffoon on Fox at 8:00 represented a step forward. As Jeremy Lott once put it, "He at least used to be an interesting crank."
Bonus video: That time O'Reilly told Reason's Jacob Sullum, "don't come near my family":
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He made some good points now and then but his stance in drugs negated them all.
don't forget the moral outrage over "sex offenders", locking 18yo's up for being with their 17yo GF, etc. And the ridiculous sex offender registry which isn't used primarily for sex offenders --- friend of a friend is on there for peeing in a park at 2am when he was walking home drunk. O'reilly helped start that bullshit.
Weren't there a few months in 2008 when Tom Stossel seemed refreshing?
Fox fans in the Yemens report O'Reilly sounds better on qat, but have not specified if the leaves are fed to him or the audience.
who is Tom Stossel?
John's un-mustachiioed, Communist twin brother.
I have absolutely no idea who the fuck Tom Stossel is.
But if by some chance you're referring to Fox Business Channel host (and one of the only real, honest to goodness libertarians left who still contributes to Reason magazine) John Stossel, well buddy, you aren't fit to shine his shoes.
Mikey, in case it ever comes up, i've compiled an exhaustive list of the things you DO have any idea about:
1. Shitty nicknames
2. Believing, based on no evidence, that all of the people who disagree with you must be the same person and Occam's Razor be damned
3. What earwax tastes like
4. Odd and proprietary definitions of "libertarian"
That's it. You're welcome!
Oh come on, John Stossel's a decent guy. He doesn't deserve this.
It's like when Mikey praises Glibertarians. I like a lot of those folks over there, and really appreciated their contributions to Hit'n'Run in the Before Times, when the Glibbening had not yet rent us all asunder. But when Simple Mikey goes on and on about how much better glibertarians.com is than Hit'n'Run, well, i sort of feel like i don't ever need to go to that site again, you know?
I feel ya, brother.
He's just another mindless, anti-government, bellowing blowhard.
New troll....?
If Michael Hihn's 3rd sock is "new".
Tom Stossel? The AEI guy? That's an odd reference.
Funny thing, that actually is John's older brother.
O'reiIly had several anti 2nd amendment opinions as well.
Funny, I wouldn't want Bill O'Reilly near my family either - - especially my daughters.
What will Dennis Miller do now?
Fuckin' thing SUCKS.
So who will get the spot, Bolling or Ingraham?
Gutfeld.
Supposedly they're giving it to Carlson.
That will be... odd. I've never seen Tuck try to pull off cranky old man.
There is apparently such a thirst for political team jibber-jabber that Carlson will probably thrive in that spot, and whomever they put at 9 will thrive as well.
Or that asshole, Judge Janine?
Please not Nancy Grace.
Since Megyn Kelly and Greta Van Susteren left, Fox will want to get a female into some prime time slot. My guess is either Dana Perino or Kimberly Guifoyle.
In a lawsuit against Roger Ailes, a Fox News contributor said that Ailes told her that Guilfoyle would get on her knees for anyone, so my money is on Guilfoyle.
If serially sexually harassing women is wrong, then damnit I don't want to be right.
100 lb gorilla?
That is my new Best Typo Ever. Fixed; thanks.
You should have left it! The mental image of a skinny little great ape was making me chuckle. Then again, i'm sleep deprived.
Then again, i'm sleep deprived.
Hentai and Cheetos?
That was your nickname in college, yes?
You should have left it! The mental image of a skinny little great ape was making me chuckle.
I'll recycle it in a post where it makes more sense.
I'm not sure where "100 lb gorilla" would ever be more relevant than a Bill O'Reilly article, but i'm not the professional writer, so what do i know.
I'm not sure where "100 lb gorilla" would ever be more relevant than a Bill O'Reilly article
Maybe a John Oliver article.
Aaaand respect restored.
I thought that was the intent, and thought highly of Jesse for it.
No longer.
It's entirely possible that my typos are more clever than I am.
Best Typo Ever was my parents' nickname for me when i was a kid.
ok, I'll bite...100 lb gorilla was my nickname in college
Pics? Thanks.
Ha ha! Let the right-wing hate monger get off the stage! This is the way it always is with the right-wing: deep down, they're all savage sexual predators, because they read too much Ayn Rand.
This is only the beginning. Before it's over, I'm pretty sure all of faux news will be tried for treason and reckless endangerment! Because lies!
Faux news has caused every problem in this country. Kill it!
Well the handle sure gave it away.
Hah hah! "Faux news". Gettit? Comedy gold AddictionMyth, comedy gold.
I've been enjoying it. Does what it says on the package.
What is it, a Hail Rataxes parody?
Good riddance. I never liked his show. It wasn't good even 'back in the day'.
It wasn't good, but it was occasionally interesting.
*This is a discussion, you let me get my points in and I'll let you get your points in (talks over guest for the rest of the interview)
*I'll give you the last word. (But I don't like you refuting me so I'll talk last anyway)
* I'm not a hypocrite, (yeah.. right)
In the early days a friend tried to turn me on to O'Reilly. So I watched one show.
"Oh, I get it", I said. "He's an extreme moderate".
No spin. None at all
Sullum never did get to run over Bill O'Reilly's family.
I won't miss him but I am beginning to wonder if this is the tip of the iceberg of women targeting prominent conservative men with harassment claims.
If prominent conservative men don't want to be targeted with harassment claims, maybe they should do the right thing and not be conservative.
Its a war of the sexes and since Hillary lost her rightful throne, conservative men are now targets.
To be fair, O'Reilly was a douche.
To Jesse: On your comment about Larry King vs O'Reilly. You could have just not watched either. I have not purposely watched anything from CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, FOX in over 15 years. The fucking airports always have some talking head on.
Tucker Carlson gives me the impression that he finishes the job--murder, dismemberment, and disposal.
A clever cudgel of velvety tits and a pussy so mauve knocks millions from flat-footed pockets.
Well, I'll be making falafel tonight.
What a disgusting euphemism.
Man, i don't think i even like Middle Eastern food anymore.
He's generous with the tzatziki.
Grab her by the lavash.
no matter what you think of O'rielly, what I don't like is people being fired before proof of crime and asking people out is not a crime. its unfortunate that Fox paid off accusers which always makes you look guilty even if not. Whatever happened to Trumps accusers?
Trump doesn't need advertisers to keep his job (anymore).
it was a rhetorical question since Trumps accusers have left the building or more accurately never showed up
If this were about Bill Clinton, how do you think you'd respond? What about the right-wing media?
This is the best exchange I've ever seen on his show.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaZkJsaXSsc#t=153s
Check out "All White Prom in Georgia" for more details.
I sincerely believe it all could have been so very different -- so much better -- between men and women. Maybe there's still hope. See:
"How We Waded Into The Sexual Harassment Quagmire: Digging Out With True Equality" http://malemattersusa.wordpres.....-quagmire/
This may be the most thorough analysis you can find of what I think has for many decades been the sexes' most alienating and destructive behavioral difference. I believe this difference results in much of what is called sexual assault of women.
So glad to see this rude lout go.
How rebellious and anti govt.....
Anybody have a clue as to what exactly he did ? Did he rape someone? did he tell dirty jokes? What?
One of the older allegations was that he forced interns to have phone sex with him. Not physically, but in order to keep their job. Supposedly there is a recording of it.
what did he do ? I mean exactly or even approximately who did he harass and how did he harass his accusers? I am not buying this unless I get some details
The [New York] Times story painted a textbook case of sexual harassment: O'Reilly would allegedly make lewd and explicit advances, promising to use his influence at Fox to help women if they acquiesced to his propositions. If they rebuffed him, he'd turn cold and vindictive, even threatening to "destroy" one when she started litigation.
O'Reilly, who's been off the air since April 11, denies all of this, declaring that he is being targeted because he is "prominent and controversial." That would have been more believable if his victims?who include co-workers and guests of his show?weren't all independently reporting the same pattern of behavior (and if two of them didn't have taped phone conversations as proof!).
From: http://reason.com/archives/201.....ists-he-de
The [New York] Times story painted a textbook case of sexual harassment: O'Reilly would allegedly make lewd and explicit advances, promising to use his influence at Fox to help women if they acquiesced to his propositions. If they rebuffed him, he'd turn cold and vindictive, even threatening to "destroy" one when she started litigation.
O'Reilly, who's been off the air since April 11, denies all of this, declaring that he is being targeted because he is "prominent and controversial." That would have been more believable if his victims?who include co-workers and guests of his show?weren't all independently reporting the same pattern of behavior (and if two of them didn't have taped phone conversations as proof!).
From: http://reason.com/archives/201.....ists-he-de
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