Trump Vs. Leaks May Be More Important Than Trump Vs. Press
The 'fake news' fight a way to try to downplay embarrassing information coming from within.

When your boss calls you out in public for gossiping about company business:
The FBI is totally unable to stop the national security "leakers" that have permeated our government for a long time. They can't even……
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 24, 2017
find the leakers within the FBI itself. Classified information is being given to media that could have a devastating effect on U.S. FIND NOW
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 24, 2017
Those tweets from President Donald Trump this morning come on the heels of a CNN report that the FBI had refused a request from the Trump administration to publicly push back against previous news reports that associates of Trump's were in contact with Russian officials during the campaign.
The White House rejects that characterization and says that FBI representatives came to them to say the news reports were wrong. What the administration asked, White House spokesman Sean Spicer said, is for the FBI to publically state the truth.
It's all part of complicated, messy three-party conflict between the administration, leakers or whistleblowers (depending on how you feel about them) within the intelligence community, and the media reporting on all of it.
After Trump tweeted out the complaint about leaks this morning, he shifted oddly into accusing the press of making up the sources he had just accused the FBI of being unable to control in his speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference today. To wit:
[T]hey have no sources, they just make 'em up when there are none. I saw one story recently where they said, "Nine people have confirmed." There're no nine people. I don't believe there was one or two people. Nine people.
And I said, "Give me a break." Because I know the people, I know who they talk to. There were no nine people.
But they say "nine people." And somebody reads it and they think, "Oh, nine people. They have nine sources." They make up sources.
A little later he said:
They shouldn't be allowed to use sources unless they use somebody's name. Let their name be put out there. Let their name be put out.
Mind you, the Trump administration, like previous administrations, wants to use unnamed sources in the media when it serves its purposes. Indeed, in this very FBI story, the administration was asking for FBI officials to talk to the reporters "on background" to push back on the claims that there were communications with Russian officials.

So even though Trump this morning was complaining about leakers, just hours later he's saying that the media is just making up sources. It's not necessarily contradictory—one could believe both of these things depending on the situation or story—but in this case these two complaints seem to be about the same controversy. The Washington Post report about now ex-National Security Adviser Mike Flynn being in contact with Russian officials claimed nine sources. And Flynn resigned over all of this.
Obviously Trump is full of crap when he says he knows who the media is talking to or he wouldn't be complaining about the FBI's inability to stop leaking. If he knows who the press talks to, he can just go tell FBI Director James Comey, can't he?
But that's not really the point. As several of us have pointed out at Reason, the Trump administration is probably going to be the leakiest in modern history in ways they're not able to control. This is good because it will help keep the administration from operating in secret. It also can potentially be a problem as overly powerful, overly connected, and largely unaccountable bureaucrats and intelligence operatives use the adversarial relationship between Trump and the press to try to influence leadership and decision-making without having to take responsibility.
It's all very messy for the press and the public to navigate. Should we spend hours explaining the contents of a leaked executive order on LGBT issues before finding out whether the administration is seriously considering it? When it turns out the administration doesn't approve the order, was the coverage "fake news" or did negative reaction to the leak of the order help influence the decision—the old policy "trial balloon" tactic?
What Trump is attempting to accomplish here is clearly to attempt to dissuade the public from trying to navigate all this complicated coverage. News critical of the Trump administration is "fake news" and that's the end of it. Trump will let you know what's real. And indeed, some reporting of what is coming out of the Trump administration has turned out be inaccurate partly because of so many leaks, but also partly because of the rush to get information out as quickly as possible is causing journalists to make mistakes. Trump speaks vaguely about problems in Sweden and the press thinks he's falsely claiming there was a terrorist attack there. But he was actually talking about crime rates. He was still exaggerating the problem (and he brought the country up again in his CPAC speech), and his own inarticulate, stream-of-consciousness speaking style contributed to the mistake, but he never claimed there was a terrorist attack in Sweden, so now he has another "fake news" example to point to.
As for the leaks, Trump certainly isn't the first president whose administration conflates info that makes them look bad or to have possibly engaged in illegal or unethical behavior with information whose exposure has a "devastating effect on the U.S." Similar claims have been made under Barack Obama's administration against whistleblowers like Edward Snowden and Chelsea Manning with little evidence they're true. Trump is only different here for his crass way of openly berating people on social media in ways that most politicians tend to do behind closed doors.
Looking at this three-way fight, maybe the takeaway here is to pay closer attention to what the administration might do to leakers if they find them and maybe a little less about the media conflict. Neither Trump nor many media leaders can resist the urge to talk about themselves, particularly when they feel attacked. So this fight is likely to go around in a circle constantly for the next … oh, four years or so.
What the administration might do to those who leak embarrassing information or who blow the whistle to possibly illegal or unethical conduct is of more pressing concern. We all benefit from more information getting out into the public eye, even if it comes along with a challenge of trying to figure out what's real.
Read the transcript of Trump's CPAC speech here.
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...the Trump administration is probably going to be the leakiest in modern history in ways they're not able to control.
Fortunately this president, unlike previous ones, has a 140 character weapon he can use against those leaks.
and no qualms about continuing
his thought in a 2nd post
What's the over/under on number of days until he accidentally leaks something via Twitter then unwittingly attacks himself via Twitter for having done so?
Well if you believe in infinite dimension theories than there is an infinite possibility that this will happen; but there is also an infinite possibility (wait isn't that just certainty) that all things will come to pass in one of the infinite earths. O.o
I hope that Half-Vice who is banging Scarlett Johansson is enjoying himself.
I hope that Half-Vice who is banging Scarlett Johansson is enjoying himself.
Of course there would actually be an infinite number of Half-Vice's banging Scarlett Johansson if such propositions of infinite dimension were true. Such is the nature of "infinity" -- it is a mathematical truth (and I believe a universal truth as well) that a single object is infinitely divisible, i.e., 1 can be divided infinite times without ever reaching 0. Thus any difference between two objects is actually "infinite difference". Furthermore, this means that idea of 1 and infinity being different is just an illusion. O.o
Don't be too envious, he's probably stuck with blueballs all the time due to her hectic filming schedule.
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It's all very messy for the press...to navigate. Should we spend hours explaining the contents of a leaked executive order on LGBT issues before finding out whether the administration is seriously considering it?
Oh no, the media might have to do more than talk to a colleague or read a Twitter feed, the horror.
Or, even worse, find an actual victim or interview whomever it is that the government is paying to strangle babies. Or, absent any victims or measurable shifts in activity/process/victims just be objective/neutral?
This is where hysterical hyperbole becomes damaging. There are enough writers out there who believe the Trump is pure evil that they don't care about sketchy sources. And there are enough citizens who believe the same and are willing to swallow what they're fed also regardless of sketchy sources. If a news story confirms their views, there's no need to have solid evidence. The media in general is partly to blame for this, but human nature is still the biggest factor.
It's the collective action problem of it all that concerns me. All it takes is one 'respectable' outlet to run with a bad story for clicks, and then the credibility of the entire 'media' is hurt. There are good reporters everywhere, even at dumps like Salon and Gawker Media, and they may have high standards and considerable restraint. But all it takes is for one shitty reporter, with a lax or shitty editor, to go with the too-good-to-be-true story for the sake of being first and getting them clicks. And the good ones suffer, because they are also "the media."
It's in all of their interests to hold to publish carefully sourced and written pieces, but it's all too tempting to get on Twitter to exclaim BREAKING for anything that they can technically say was reliably sourced.
Man, this is the first time that I've fully agreed with you. Well put
Agreed. This is probably the biggest downside of 24 hour news.
The extreme 24 hour news cycle has been around for over a decade, and while I can't recall how bad it was in the aughts, it seems like it's worse now. Maybe my perspective is warped by the extreme measures taken against Trump. Still, I think social media is a big factor. Clicks are what drive much of the revenue now, and getting something to trend on facebook and between blogs is vital to that. You make money by provoking other outlets to recycle and comment on your content. Twitter has given journalists an echo chamber and bubble that transcends geography, giving many of them a distorted view of what issues people care about.
You throw Trump - President Trump! - into this shitshow, and I'm very curious as to how things will regress to the mean. I need to start taking notes, so I can reasonably compare today with the media landscape in 2019 or 2023.
The extreme 24 hour news cycle has been around for over a decade, and while I can't recall how bad it was in the aughts, it seems like it's worse now.
In my opinion, it's been building up to this as the 24 hour networks keep fighting to one-up each other. And as you say, now that social media is joining the crowd, it's just getting that much more fierce. It just seems to me to be a rather natural escalation.
All it takes is one 'respectable' outlet to run with a bad story for clicks, and then the credibility of the entire 'media' is hurt.
I'd say that shark has been jumped and greatly accounts for the media's lack of credibility among news consumers.
Right, it's been that way and I don't know how they can dig themselves out of it. I see a lot of criticism and calling out among journalos on Twitter, and I do think a whole lot of them get it and are trying harder to hold up some standards... but how can they fight against self-interest motivated by perverse incentives? It's Sad!
Now they're trying to jump the sharknado.
We should see to it that the president shuts it all down just to be safe.
That's an interesting take on what nobody said.
Thanks for the insight and quality alt-text, Shackfloor. I certainly hope we get more leaks into the public eye, and that enough press outlets smack themselves into covering those leaks responsibly. Keep up the good work.
Mariner2 said in a earlier article that contrary to conventional opinion it is the police who control the politicians, not the other way around.
Is he wrong? Case in point just look at this article, what we've seen in only a month of politicians (the most powerful politicians!) going toe to toe with the FBI (super cops). It does not seem like President Trump is wielding the authority of station, quite the opposite in fact.
Another case in point (apologies for using this in an earlier article), HRC -- regardless of her political views is/was one of the most power politicians in America (and subsequently the world) -- went toe to toe with a single FBI director and she lost.
Who really is the most powerful entity or entities in this nation? Well, there's two examples of presidential level politicians unable to control a bureaucratic organization, the FBI. Truly, the 4th branch of government is stronger than the other three combined.
I would say HRC won that battle since she wasn't charged and should have been imo
Yet some would say this single man or organization is what stopped her from achieving victory.
she wasn't charged and should have been imo
Also, lets not forget that we are discussing who is more powerful, cops or politicians, and I claim Hilary lost -- but this does not mean she isn't powerful, she is powerful enough to avoid punishment as one of the world's leading politicians; but she was not powerful enough to best the 4th branch, to which cops belong.
She's not getting off scot-free. Remember, Trump said if he were President Crooked Hillary would be behind bars and he's President now. I haven't heard anything lately about what he's doing to make sure she gets prosecuted for all her crimes, maybe he's too busy building the wall, but I know Trump doesn't kid and he's keeping his campaign promises so Crooked Hillary will get what's coming to her, believe me.
He said he wasn't planning on it.
She lost cause she was a terrible candidate not because of comeys announcement
The business model of the media is to get clicks by blowing things out of proportion and being overly hysterical. So please excuse me for not being fully on board when they report something.
I think that the leaks are a good reason to cut both the FBI and the rest of the Security State. If they have so little to do that they spend a lot of time leaking then its time they got their budgets cut.
Of course this will make places like the NYT and Washington Post cry since cutting off leaks will require them to actually send out reporters to find whats going on rather then sitting in their office's getting leaks handed to them.
Obviously Trump is full of crap when he says he knows who the media is talking to or he wouldn't be complaining about the FBI's inability to stop leaking.
And nobody cares, because the media's full of crap too so what difference, at this point, does it make who's the bigger sack of crap?
It's a yuge problem to seeTrump siding with the BLM folks in attacking the FBI, though, disrespecting our fine upstanding law enforcement officials who put their lives on the line every day to protect our freedoms, even while there's a war on cops going on. Sad.
"News critical of the Trump administration is "fake news"
To be fair, there has been A LOT of blatantly false things that the press has published recently. And it doesn't help anyone.
http://www.thefederalist.com/2017/02/.....trump-won/
Yea writers at reason seem to want to ignore this.
Trump is a petty blowhard and has quick to pull out fake news label when he shouldn't...however to act like any label by trump as fake news is dishonest seeing how the press has done plenty of things that are fake news worthy (like here with dead grandma)
There's an example included literally in the same paragraph quoted here.
Yea me culpa it is actually half way down. I read it earlier...forgot..then came back.
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Trump Vs. Leaks May Be More Important Than Trump Vs. Press
No doubt, but "Trump Vs. Press" is a lot more entertaining.
If the nyt is reporting a bunch of russian connections that were false per the fbi initiating convo...i have no problem with priebus wanting them to push back.
The press is being irresponsible when they do this. They seem to think it is okay for them to do whatever and dont like negative feedback. Trump is also irresponsible at times at well
I miss the good old days when real news was reported like when Hillary killed Vince Foster or when the 2016 election was stolen by a bunch of dead illegal aliens.
It is beyond belief that you people are here wringing your hands over this now.
Or hrc lost due to russia hacking election
Lol
Oh look, you're talking to yourself again. What a surprise.
What
AmSoc: you are a damn fool. You talk about the press as if its a monolith! It's not the Borg! It's millions of different people doing different things at once! You are less than a fool: a total fucking idiot!
Tony you lost deal with it
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The reason the FBI can't find the leaker is because Comey IS the leaker. Bad mistake keeping him on.
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So even though Trump this morning was complaining about leakers, just hours later he's saying that the media is just making up sources. It's not necessarily contradictory?one could believe both of these things depending on the situation or story?but in this case these two complaints seem to be about the same controversy. The Washington Post report about now ex-National Security ????? ?? ??
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