Kellyanne Conway Admits Bowling Green Massacre Mistake, Chelsea Clinton Gets 'Edgy': P.M. Links

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  Olivier Douliery/SIPA/Newscom

  In a rare example of a Trump administration person admitting something they said was false, Kellyanne Conway conceded that the Bowling Green Massacre never happened. She called it "an honest mistake."

• Read my column at The Daily Beast on why Steve Bannon and President Trump welcome the kind of violence that prevented Milo Yiannopoulos from speaking at Berkeley.
• "Liberty is meaningless where the right to utter one's thoughts and opinions has ceased to exist. That, of all rights, is the dread of tyrants. It is the right which they first of all strike down. They know its power. Thrones, dominions, principalities, and powers, founded in injustice and wrong, are sure to tremble, if men are allowed to reason of righteousness, temperance, and of a judgment to come in their presence. Slavery cannot tolerate free speech. Five years of its exercise would banish the auction block and break every chain in the South." - Frederick Douglass, A Plea for Free Speech (via Spiked's Brendan O'Neill)
• President Trump really screwed up that Yemen strike.
• Cops in Chicago schools have very little oversight.
• The opposite of this headline about Chelsea Clinton.

Comments

[Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?]

In a rare example of a Trump administration person admitting something they said was false, Kellyanne Conway conceded that the Bowling Green Massacre never happened. She called it "an honest mistake."

So rare.

[Red Rocks Dickin Bimbos]

Is there such thing as a dishonest mistake?

[Crusty Juggler - #2]

Like when you say you're sorry for cumming in her hair?

[Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?]

Never say your sorry. /pua

[Citizen X - #6]

Pshh. I say "You're welcome."

[Chipwooder]

You cum anywhere but the mouth???

[Mr Lizard]

A true gentleman always bullseyes the cervix

[Chipper Morning Wood]

As a lizard, this must be something you have read in a book.

[Cis Species Lord of Feces]

Indeed. Where does a gentlelizard aim?

[Mr Lizard]

You're mother's left eye

*drops hammer, then skitters off*

[Mr Lizard]

*picks hammer back up and slinks away, mumbles something about autocorrect*

[Mickey Rat]

Right in the cloaca?

[Chipper Morning Wood]

[Tries to extinguish SIV signal]

[Libertarian]

At the eggs.

[Red Rocks Baiting n Inciting]

Never apologize, never explain.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Crusty, the only apology you owe is to your dishwasher.

[BakedPenguin]

Is there such thing as a dishonest mistake?

Setting off the burglar alarm would count.

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

Lol bacon that name change is hilarious

[Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?]

Thank you. Did you click my name also?

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

Uhhh, I don't get it : /

[Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?]

Look up the meme...it's a Dr. Phil episode that went viral meme crazy.

[AceDroman]

Welcome to the internet H-V,H-V

[We are all Sloopy's mom (RBS)]

Did you click my name also?

Oh goddamnit.

[Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?]

God didn't dammit, the beavers did.

[Basketball Uber Alles, Jr.]

Unlike previous administrations, where the mea culpae were issued on an hourly basis.

[DOOMco's Ref Chipper]

Whaaaaaaaaaaat?

[Rufus The Monocled]

Hello.

She's one up on Obama.

[Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?]

Yes sir.

[Injun, as in from India]

What's up with the et tu Reason? I've missed stuff.

[Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?]

Oh, you've missed a lot. Someone with better linking skills will bring you up to speed. Again I say, don't leave!

[Rufus The Monocled]

Linking skills?

These euphemisms are OUT OF CONTROL.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Did he mean slinking skills?

[Password: pode$ta]

Shikha did this

And they refused to cover a story about cops beating up sloppy's mom while she was trying to help a kid in major physical distress during a basketball game (she's a nurse) because it is 'not quite Reason...

There were 20-some articles about the Trump immigration EO.

Those are the three major ones leading up to the mass exodus, AFAIK.

[John Titor]

It's a good thing there's no female libertarians, or we would have lost, like, a quarter of them in a week.

[Col. Chestbridge]

SF'd it

[Col. Chestbridge]

I would link it myself but my linking skills are subpar.

[Ted S.]

Learn HTML.

[Col. Chestbridge]

I know HTML. My problem lies in finding the URL to link.

[Password: pode$ta]

Here it is

[Free Society]

Don't forget these gems:

shikha sood dalmia ?@shikhadalmia 4h4 hours ago
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No matter what the moral rot on the left, the right always manages to outdo it! Sad!

shikha sood dalmia ?@shikhadalmia 26m26 minutes ago
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When facts are always "alternative," brute force is all that's left in settling with intellectual opponents!

[Rufus The Monocled]

I have no reason why she's remotely connected to a libertarian publication.

I'd love to know how the right outdoes the left where moral rot is concerned because from where I sit progressives have that market cornered.

[Threedoor]

It has to be that thing she does.

[Tonio]

Thank you, P:p

[DOOMco's Ref Chipper]

We have lost a good number of commenters in 72 hours.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Histrionics.

[Tyler.C Sloopy's mom matters]

I know. It makes me sad. So as that I might leave. But then this place would get better, and I can't let that happen.

[commodious rebrands]

They'll be back.

They always come back.

[darius404]

I hope most of them get over it. People just have to accept that Reason won't necessarily cover their preferred nutpunch.

[Not a True MJG]

OK, now you're posting first; I'm very confused.

[Tonio]

Fist was, I believe, one of the first to jump ship.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

And Hihn will be the last.

[Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?]

*giggles* *farts* I have won against the BULLIES!!!!!/Hihntler

[Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?]

Did he? I thought I saw him yesterday. Fuck.

[Fist of Etiquette]

No, I'm still around, just a lot more sparingly until things cool down. I hate it when mom and dad fight.

[Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?]

You are loved. I even changed my name yesterday in a bro type roasting fashion. *drops gloves and hugs fist(still doing it right, Tundra?)*

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Yeah, we all love you Fist.

[Fist of Etiquette]

I even changed my name yesterday...

THAT WAS YOU? You know, the last one to spoof me was Mary. JUST SAYIN'.

[Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?]

I changed to Fist of Bacon-Magic. I not the name stealing type, I want full credit for my madness.

[Fist of Etiquette]

I not the name stealing type...

I'm just joshing you. But maybe a weekend full of uninteresting filler posts and repeats will get everyone's head right. A Superbowl thread might just be what the doctor ordered.

Get on that, Bacon.

[Col. Chestbridge]

I think you have to pull his jersey over his head.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

KMW and The Jacket?

[Fist of Etiquette]

KMW and The Jacket?

I never thought of it, but I guess you're right. That would be it.

Wait a minute, KMW replaced Welch...

[Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?]

NTTAWWT

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Are you gonna argue with the fact that Welch has more nurturing feminine energy than Gillespie?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Than KMW, for that matter.

[ant1sthenes]

But hey, at least it got the media all chattering about the couple of would-be terrorist chumps who slipped through the cracks and got into the country, causing Obama to temporarily restrict immigration like Trump did. You sure showed her, media.

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

God bless the man who linked videos from The Last Waltz the other day

This performance is giving me Omega Feeelz

[Brochettaward]

I don't understand. No girl twerks in this video? What's the point?

[John Titor]

You really want to see Joni Mitchell try to twerk?

[Rufus The Monocled]

'It makes no difference' and 'I shall be released'.

And I always stop and take time from whipping my orphans to listen to the 'The Weight'.

[John Titor]

NEO-CONFEDERATE!

[Gojira]

Hey, can one of you gun-nut "don't call it a clip" weirdos point out to me where I can get the best deal for a quality but low-cost AK? I'm looking to add to the arsenal but am looking for some alternatives to the gun shows I usually buy from .

I ain't gonna lie, part of it is because I convinced my wife that leftist mobs are coming to kill us all in a Bolshevik revolution, and I'm keeping the AR with me and she's Chinese so by law she has to use an AK. So the Berkley thing was a huge win for me, in that, 1) it personally cost me nothing, and 2) provided me the fodder for retarded hyperbole in order to justify something I wanted to do anyway.

[Gojira]

My only requirement is a folding stock. I'm open to the 7.62 or 5.45 variants.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

Here's a wide selection, but honestly, AK's aren't as cheap as they used to be, for the price you can get a decent AR.

[Gojira]

Already got one. I want to diversify. One for precision shooting, one for using the chamber as an ersatz toilet where I know it'll just work again and fling shit out with the ejected shells with no jamming.

[Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?]

I like my Ruger mini-14. It will fit the bill of being rugged and jammie proof. That and it is also same caliber as your AR.

[Gojira]

I'll look into that, thank you.

[Suellington]

I second that, and own one. There are a ton of mods available for it too. How can you go wrong with BA Baracus' gun?

(Well, he didn't actually manage to hit anyone with several thousand rounds shot, so there is that.)

[dschwar]

I thought BA was always driving something. It was Hannibal and Face who couldn't hit anything except car tires right before hidden ramps.

[Florida Hipster]

You can get AR that are piston drive like AK if you believe it's more reliable. My Sig 516 is piston and I've never had a misfire.

[Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?]

^Rich Florida Hipster
*jealous glare*

[Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?]

It's heavier than your AR, but it was modeled after the M-1 garand system...durable and reliable. Get the heavier barrel version. I have the tactical version and love it. The old ranch styles barrels are too thin so repeated shots can warp it. Not so with the tactical and other heavier/updated versions.

[Sir Digby Chicken Caesar]

You're a Plano-area resident, as I understand. Try Gander Mountain (Lewisville or Frisco) and/or Cabella's. Gander tends to have quite a few consignment guns. But, then again, I think Cabella's does, too. If you're gonna find one brick and mortar, I believe those would be starting places.

Cheaper Than Dirt has a store in McKinney that deals more with weapons and ammo than it does with accessories, as I recall. It's just east of 75 on 380.

[Viking1865]

Maybe Trump reverses all the Russian import bans?

[Trolleric the Goth]

don't get an underfolder, they totally suck to shoot. I hate mine.

[Trolleric the Goth]

don't get an underfolder, they totally suck to shoot. I hate mine.

[Gojira]

^^thank you, quality advice

[Rufus The Monocled]

You laugh but you're seeing why the government (and progressives) shouldn't know where the guns are.

[Pan Zagloba]

Buy Serbian!

[Rufus The Monocled]

Does it come with the guy and the pickup?

[John Titor]

No but if you promise to use it on Bosnians they throw in a discount.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

That'a just a made up nationality.

[John Titor]

Serbian Arms Dealer: You. I like you. Half off.

[Rufus The Monocled]

+1 Commando 450.

[Gojira]

I've bought one Serbian thing in my entire life, and will never make that mistake again.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

[TRIGGERED]

[mr simple]

Jesus titty-fucking christ. Just from reading that I will never be the same again.

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

I also want to stock up for the coming purge. Guns have always kind of freaked me out, but I enjoy martial arts and martial pursuits, I think as a man, I should know how to properly use and own a firearm.

[Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?]

You should. One of the best starter home defense weapons is a shotgun. 12 gauge with double aught buck shot.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

I enjoy martial arts and martial pursuits,

How about marital aids?

[Mr Lizard]

I thought your mother retired?...

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Who do you use now for the prostate milking?

[Mr Lizard]

Well if the squirrels keep this up then I might just have to enslave one of them for such proclivities.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

You are gonna get milked twice. The second time is not enjoyable.

[Trshmnstr needs a new can]

12 gauge with double aught buck shot.

I have #6 bird shot in mine. I don't want to kill my next-door neighbor along with the intruder. As long as you aren't shooting through 2 walls to hit the intruder, #6 is plenty lethal, but it doesn't have nearly as bad an overpenetration issue.

[Mr Drew]

^^^Strong agree. Buckshot is kick ass but not the right tool against unarmored targets.

[DblEagle]

The sound of a pump shotgun being chambered is an international recognized phrase for "go away".

Turkey rounds. They have a mix of medium and smaller shot with additional powder. If you have a pump, just check to make sure they cycle well since most of the shells are slightly longer than for upland bird loads.

[Florida Hipster]

Do yourself a favor and take a firearm safety class.

[jesse.in.mb]

I think as a man, I should know how to properly use and own a firearm.

Eh if you can throat punch someone I feel like you're totally squared on manly violence. Guns are a blast, but they're impersonal and designed to make violence (defensive or otherwise) available to people who aren't able to pull back the drawstring on a bow, cleave someone's skull like a melon with an axe or knock someone out with a throat punch.

[Chipwooder]

You say that as if it were a bad thing!

God made man, Colonel Colt made them equal.

[Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?]

^This
Jesse, do you watch Vikings on History? Great show.
*bites shield berserker style*

[jesse.in.mb]

I watched the first couple of seasons. My roommate has been watching it religiously since and I catch an ep here or there, but having seen some of them it's hard for me to jump in and binge the last few seasons.

Fantastic television.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

The best home defense weapon is a sword.

[Crusty Juggler - #2]

Punch throats? You pussy. I rip throats.

[Mr Lizard]

It's worked the same for my species over the last million years

[Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?]

From the inside out?

[Mr Drew]

Against one guy, sure. I'm a big tough guy, or at least I look like one, and against more than two opponents, I'm going guns up.

[AnonCowHerd]

if you're handy, it's best/cheapest to build your own. IO Inc does some American made copies that don't cost much, but if you want high quality you'll have to pay for one of the Yugo's or other high end maker

[Regicidal Maniac]

I haven't heard anything good about the quality of I.O. AKs. Lots of improperly riveted recievers, bad headspacing, etc. The default cheap AK for the last few years has been a WASR. Last I heard, Atlantic Firearms sells a QC inspected one that lets you avoid some of the more obvious problems with cheap AKs, like canted sights or wobbly magwells.

[The Last American Hero]

Whatever you do, be sure you get one with one of those thingeys that pops up.

[Gojira]

^^quality advice, would solicit again

[Wasteland Wanderer]

Unless your wife handles recoil well, go with the 5.45. 7.62x39 has significantly more recoil. It isn't huge, but it might be enough to make it unpleasant for her to shoot, which means she won't want to practice with it at all.

[Cdr Lytton]

Get the AK, well because, then get a 2nd AR for the wifey. If SHTFU, you'll want common ammo and magazines. Then get something in 7.62/.308 for decent knockdown power. As for the missus, when you're right, they totally let you grab the pistol grip.

[Bubba Jones]

Budsgunshop.com usually has good prices on everything.

[Mr Drew]

Agreed.

[That's A Bingo!]

President Trump really screwed up that Yemen strike.

But Hillary had nothing to do with Benghazi.

[Fire Shikha]

That was also a strike approved by the previous administration and signed-off by other in the administration, but keep getting your news from Slate

[Rufus The Monocled]

As if he personally had anything to do with it.

Presidents taking credit or criticism for these action and arguing about it is stupid.

[Fire Dalmia (DoM5k)]

Shoulda claimed he first heard about it on the news just like everyone else.

[Crusty Juggler - #2]

She looks good there.

[Citizen X - #6]

Crystal meth is a hell of a drug.

[Tonio]

I'm sorry, but I've stalled on my H&R alternative project due to some personal issues that took precedence. I understand that others have started working on an alternative. Rather than duplicate efforts and create unnecessary divisions I've decided to join with those others. I'll revisit my plans if nothing else comes up.

More fiction is forthcoming as well, but I've chosen to to take a different direction from my previous Tales from the Staff Room story and have had to start afresh.

Stay tuned.

[Basketball Uber Alles, Jr.]

Related: who was it that set up the Steam community for HnR? I'd like to get involved though I know dick about Steam. I only joined yesterday and bought the original Deus Ex for $1.74, on Pan Zagloba's rec IIRC.

[Pan Zagloba]

Keep in mind that original is a 2000 vintage game. Graphics are....rough. Servicable, but rough.
There's a user mod you might be able to download from Steam that pretties it up a bit.

Other thing is, despite being years ahead of its time, some of design choices are...questionable. And non-lethal is hard as balls to do, because you don't have insta-takedown.

[Basketball Uber Alles, Jr.]

Oh, of course. I'm not a graphics snob. I don't play many games newer than 10 years old.

[John Titor]

Also there's something up with the graphics on modern computers where it's way more dark, I can't remember how I fixed it.

And chasing NSF and engaging in police brutality with the riot baton 'non-lethally' is one of the best parts of the game.

[Somalian Road Corporation]

The writing is substantially better, though. If you want me to sum it up as succinctly as possible, one is and feels like it was written by people in Texas, the other, people from Montreal.

There are a lot of eye-rolling themes and lines. The absolute obsession with PMCs that seems to be very popular right now, as well as one about how corporations aren't accountable like government is, when earlier you literally just went through a FEMA camp where they're conducting brutal vivisection-esque human experiments.

Also, I'm not a fan of prequelitis, where there's some massively earth-shattering event that takes place in the prequel that is never dreamed of or alluded to in the original because it's an entirely new idea, but it's so important that it should have been a major fixture in the original, but, well, it's part of the canon now retroactively...

It's been a while so I don't precisely recall everything, and I know some folks will think I'm being a curmudgeon. DX:HR is still an alright game but I'm just tired of the omnipresent anti-capitalistic themes in absolutely everything, especially when the actual events in the game clash with the narrative. Haven't played MD yet.

[John Titor]

Credit where credit's due, they resisted the urge to turn David Sarif into an evil corporate mastermind. A lot of this is Montreal politics leaking into the game. Once I heard in Mankind Divided a guy call a pro-aug debater an SJW I had to roll my eyes and realize I should never expect decent political writing in their games.

[Not a True MJG]

Glad this has reminded me: Mankind Divided is up for $18 now, worth getting? I heard a lot of criticism, particularly that it doesn't really end, making me think I ought to wait for the "Directors Cut" or whatever they wind up calling the complete version.

[BakedPenguin]

For all those interested in old games, Gog.com has tons of them.

[Pan Zagloba]

I don't have it, but my friend who enjoyed HR said that, mechanically, it's even better. Story is....eeehhh....
But yeah, I'm waiting for GOTY while I work through the queue.

[John Titor]

I'd wait until they do a full Director's Cut with DLC or whatever, tends to be the better choice nowadays, wait a year or two so you can get the complete game.

[Somalian Road Corporation]

That's precisely the reason why I'm waiting, especially after the nickel-and-diming director's cut release of HR. It's a single-player game so it's not going anywhere.

Also, I've been perfectly happy with Rimworld, Factorio, and TW: Warhammer in the meanwhile.

I actually initially got into Rimworld because I read people elsewhere crying about the developer's "terrible politics," which I learned were libertarian, so I laughed and checked it out. I normally avoid early access stuff, but it's quite playable and featured now and is still being actively developed.

[John Titor]

Yeah if you've already got TW Warhammer you already have one long-standing DLC line to get through before the full game. I'm waiting for more of the DLC to come down and then Steam sale, but I haven't really liked the direction TW's been going since Shogun 2.

[Somalian Road Corporation]

I almost exclusively care about multiplayer only, which was fun and customizable in Shogun 2 despite some Skinner box malarkey, and I skipped R2/Atilla after hearing dismal things. Apparently TW: Warhammer sold much better than anticipated so I hope they'll flesh some things out--the multiplayer is fun but relatively barebones--but they've really going to try and bleed every last drop on the DLC.

[John Titor]

Ugh, I got Rome 2 at release and it was godawful. The base game's still not great, but the Divide et Impera mod at least makes it into something decent.

[DblEagle]

I find that the original edition of Rome is much more player friendly. Rome 2 added some nice ideas but it seems like they spent their capital on graphics and not only play-ability. At least that is my humble opinion.

[ant1sthenes]

My favorite part of DX:HR was where they gave you a side mission to go do something that a cynical/paranoid person would see as the conspirators trying to screw people, and you can basically ignore it and get vindicated later.

[jesse.in.mb]

I *loved* Deus Ex when it came out. I tried to play it again after playing 2 and couldn't get through it because of the graphics (and I'm generally not a snob on that front).

It's still the bar I hold other games to for a balance of thoughtful context and engaging gameplay. Also the first place I read any de Tocqueville.

[Somalian Road Corporation]

Heh, yep, it's the reason I read The Man Who Was Thursday. There are texture update packs that spice up the graphics, but I'm also somebody who's spent too much time in commandline environments, so the visuals aren't a big deal for me at all.

[jesse.in.mb]

I think if I hadn't been stepping back directly from two which had so many quality of life improvements I wouldn't have minded. It can be brutal having to contend with weird interface issues when you know that some simple tweaks would've made such a difference.

[Caput Lupinum]

Riven. I'm on my phone, so it's hard to grab the link, but check last night's PM lynx for her handle.

[Trshmnstr needs a new can]

What's your handle on Steam?

[Basketball Uber Alles, Jr.]

reason_exile_jr

[DOOMco's Ref Chipper]

Nice.
Invites went out, my handle there is coloraDOOM.

[John Titor]

Figured that was you.

[DOOMco's Ref Chipper]

I figured it was close enough to not worry.

[Ted S.]

I joined as "cineastted", from my blog name and my real name. (Yes, I'm a movie buff named Ted.)

[Cis Species Lord of Feces]

Pear of Wisdom.

[Chipwooder]

I was going to join, but they want 5 bucks for me to make a friend request. My name's not Rockefeller, goddammit.

[Col. Chestbridge]

What? I've used Steam almost since release and have never had to pay for a friend request.

Did you download the Super Capitalist version or something?

[Chipwooder]

I clicked the link someone posted to the group yesterday, took me to a website, I created an account, tried to initiate a friend request, and it said I needed $5 in my Steam wallet or to spend $5 on the site to have that permission.

There was no download, it was just a website. I'd never heard of Steam before and I'm not a gamer. I only use mobile (phone and tablet), not an actual computer for this stuff because my laptop is from work and I can't install anything on it anyway. I guess I'm doing it wrong.

[Col. Chestbridge]

Huh. Well that explains why I've never run into that issue, I've spent far too much money on games through them.

At any rate it sounds like a few people are working on an alternative that is not Steam-based.

[Wasteland Wanderer]

Steam is primarily a video game market. I'm not surprised they put in a few blocks to keep people from using it solely as social media.

[ant1sthenes]

I think it's more to prevent scammy behavior -- it gets you banned, but if accounts are free, that's not really much of an obstacle.

[Not a True MJG]

Riven told people to find her on Steam to stay in touch. Agamemnon organized a Reason steam group a year or two ago.

[ant1sthenes]

If you want older games, GOG is also a good option (though it doesn't come with an expat Hit n' Run group). Lots of people in the boat of trying to figure out how to make them work on modern hardware, and DRM free.

[SirNiko]

Hey folks, long time lurker and small time donater here, first time poster.

I'd like to get involved with the steam group as well, with the intent to keep in touch when somebody (Riven?) comes up with an alternative site/forum/etc so I can lurk (post?) there too.

I go by TheGreatSirNiko on Steam. Are you guys okay with Reason comment lurkers joining too? I usually read at work when I can't comment, but I'd like to become more active. I sent a friend invite to Homo_Cyberneticus, but as a lurker they wouldn't know who I am.

Love reading your comments more than the articles, hope I can keep doing that in the future too.

[Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?]

*staying tuned*

[Col. Chestbridge]

*tunes*

I'll be posting the remaining four parts of my own short story over the course of next week. Title undetermined.

[Tonio]

Looking forward to that, Chesty.

[Not a True MJG]

some personal issues that took precedence

Traitor.

[Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?]

Link for Steam?

[DOOMco's Ref Chipper]

Aga left the link in the *of course* article last night.
I can get on my computer and send it soon

[Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?]

Thanks. The Jacket article?

[DOOMco's Ref Chipper]

Yes. Its private, so we need an invite in. Ive been adding people from that group.

[greasonable]

http://steamcommunity.com/grou.....Commenters

[DOOMco's Ref Chipper]

Or, ill get someone else to do it.
Thanks

[Kevin Sorbos Manful Locks]

Can someone send me an invite?

"Senator Clay Davis"

I'm the one with "Money Laundering" set to my real name.

[greasonable]

What's going on? I might be able to help..

Coordination is more of a problem than the technical details. Anybody can set up a bulletin board. If that is all we needed, we could just take over Grylliade... /jk

[Fire Dalmia (DoM5k)]

What is this Steam business people keep referencing?

[Crusty Juggler - #2]

Steam is the vapor into which water is converted when heated.

[Florida Hipster]

Witchcraft!!!

[Somalian Road Corporation]

Steamed hams. Old family recipe.

[Fire Dalmia (DoM5k)]

Well, I'm from Utica and I've never heard the expression "steamed hams."

[Crusty Juggler - #2]

I'm from Utica

Oh my God...

[R C Dean]

Tonio et al:

Popped by on a conference call and saw this. I'll join you in a libertarian alternative site.

I haven't seen anything yet that makes me regret my decision. Brushing off the story about sloopy's Mom really confirmed it for me. I believe that Reason is following the trajectory described by IowaHawk (hashtag "#lefties"):

(1) Identify a respected institution
(2) Kill it
(3) Gut it
(4) Wear its carcass as a skinsuit, while demanding respect

[Somalian Road Corporation]

If you want to feel worse, stop by Dalmia's Twitter account.

[R C Dean]

One more way that IowaHawk has the New Reason (tm) pegged, given their brush off of sloopy:

Journalism is about covering important stories. With a pillow, until they stop moving.

SRC:

I don't twitter, and I never will. The Dalmia twits that have been posted on this thread are more than enough to convert my disdain for her into loathing.

[Drake]

Seriously, did Soros quietly buy Reason?

[Somalian Road Corporation]

Is it time to legitimately blame the Kochtopus now? And I used to laugh that shit off...

[Tonio]

Psshhhht. Roger that, Romeo Charlie.

And that's some tasty prose. Burge is a national treasure.

[GSL in E]

I'll repeat my suggestion from yesterday, insofar as many of us aren't gamers and don't want to spend money on Steam: we could recreate a commenter community easily and cost-free by using Slack.

[Injun, as in from India]

Sup, bitchez!

[Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?]

Welcome back, don't leave!

[Injun, as in from India]

Thanks bacon! I've been swamped with a work project. First time I'm getting a breather in weeks.

[DOOMco's Ref Chipper]

Hey-o

[Fire Dalmia (DoM5k)]

It's been a rough week for HnR commenters

[Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?]

"Liberty is meaningless where the right to utter one's thoughts and opinions has ceased to exist.

Tell that to Reason.

[Mickey Rat]

"Some thoughts and opinions make us feel icky defending."

[Fire Shikha]

No, they believe you can voice your own opinions. They just think that you can use violence against that person if they have the 'wrong opinions'.

'Woke Minds and Intersectional Solidarity'

[Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?]

Shikha makes Pol Pot look like Ghandi

[Fire Shikha]

Shikha-ism

"Before we condemn Pol Pot, we must first condemn all those people he killed who decided to be uppity enough to read books and wear glasses"

[Fire Dalmia (DoM5k)]

Fucking uppity nerds

[kinnath]

They just think that you can use violence against that person if they have the 'wrong opinions'.

No, they are apologizing for assholes beating the crap out of innocent 3rd parties who said nothing.

[Fire Dalmia (DoM5k)]

BUT SHE WAS WEARING A HAT!!!

[Citizen X - #6]

Robby Soave|Feb. 3, 2017 4:29 pm

Oh my god

[Jerry on the sea]

I guess that was an honest mistake.

[Not a True MJG]

He knows what he's doing.

On his last day, he's going to post the PM Links 5 minutes after the AM Links.

[Free Society]

His last day? Robby doing a walkout too? *tears of hopeful joy*

[The Last American Hero]

Probably got an offer from Slate.

[Not a True MJG]

All good things must come to an end.

[Free Society]

So he's really leaving? To where?

[Not a True MJG]

No, not as far as any of us know. But when the Links are posted at a ridiculous time, then we will know.

[Free Society]

ha ha got it

[Col. Chestbridge]

Or worse: 5 minutes before the AM Links.

[Pan Zagloba]

11:59 - AM links
12:01 - PM links

Technically Correct!

[Col. Chestbridge]

The best kind of correct.

[John Titor]

He's doing it just to fuck with us now.

He should know that Dalmia has now given us justification to pepper spray him because of his incitement.

[Basketball Uber Alles, Jr.]

Cops inChicago schools have has very little oversight.

[That's A Bingo!]

Cops in Chicago schools have very little oversight.

[Fire Shikha]

"Read my column at The Daily Beast on why Steve Bannon and President Trump welcome the kind of violence that prevented Milo Yiannopoulos from speaking at Berkeley."

Your coworker Shikha approves of that violence too. Get woke

[Basketball Uber Alles, Jr.]

That's really the only thing needed to throw at her with any time she posts something: "You approve of violence, Shikha."

[Juvenile Bluster]

Jesus Christ, she's a moron, but if you're this shitty at reading comprehension when it comes to what Robby said go back to 4th grade.

[Fire Shikha]

Your coworker Shikha approves of that violence too refers back to the headline that says "Steve Bannon and President Trump welcome the kind of violence that prevented Milo Yiannopoulos from speaking at Berkeley". Not Robby.

[Drake]

I bet Robby spends half the article virtue signaling about how nasty Milo is. A subtle apology for halfheartedly defending his right to free speech.

I'll pass.

[Fire Dalmia (DoM5k)]

Yep.

[Drake]

But they don't get why the mood here has taken an ugly turn.

[GILMORE?]

Read my column at The Daily Beast

Because this one is surely different from the others.

[Rufus The Monocled]

I never go to the TDB ever since I went the first time hoping to see a daily pic of beasts. Instead I got Robby and Nick.

What a gyp.

[GILMORE?]

I used to go to read the hysterical lefty-comments on nick-stories.

now, there's no point.

[Col. Chestbridge]

To be sure, Gil. To. Be. Sure.

[Not a True MJG]

It's the one he pimped this morning! Now he's double-dipping.

[Crusty Juggler - #2]

yo home sperm test brings male fertility testing to smartphones

yo home sperm test brings male fertility testing to smartphones: medical electronic systems (MES), the gold standard in automated semen analysis and an established manufacturer of commercial-grade automated semen analyzers for the past 20 years, announces the launch of 'yo home sperm test', the first home male fertility test kit powered by a smartphone platform and supported by an interactive app experience complete with sperm education, animations and sperm trivia. yo provides consumers with the ability to both view and measure the number of moving sperm in their sample?the key to male fertility?from the comfort of their smartphone.

[Citizen X - #6]

the gold standard in automated semen analysis

You ever read something that your brain doesn't have a place for, and it's like getting bit on the stomach by a horse?

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

This feels like a conspiracy by Crusty to molest someone's smartphone.

Playing the long game, eh Crusty?

[Fire Dalmia (DoM5k)]

I, for one, am sick and tired of automated semen analyses that do not deliver on their promises!

[Rich]

yo home sperm test brings male fertility testing to smartphones yo mama

FTFY

[Citizen X - #6]

Yo mama does so much male fertility testing, she had to get powered by a smartphone platform and supported by an interactive app experience complete with sperm education, animations and sperm trivia.

[Basketball Uber Alles, Jr.]

Well, if my phone screen's gonna get spooged on anyway...

[Mickey Rat]

"Sperm education"?

Does it give them swimming lessons?

[Rich]

It euphemistically gives them the lash.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

They are definitely getting a beating.

[Password: pode$ta]

Yiannopoulos isn't even a particularly strong vehicle for the anti-censorship message, given that his own supporters lash out at their critics with just as much illiberal fervor, and occasionally, with violence.

The single, solitary citation for Milo supporters being violent has a couple of problems.

1) The source doesn't even mention whether the shooter was a Milo supporter. The reader has to track down other sources to find that.
2) More importantly, the 'protests' had become violent and the shooter later turned himself in. That strongly suggests that he was acting in self-defense. Libertarians don't typically think of self-defense as "lashing out with violence."

[Password: pode$ta]

As a matter of fact?
The police let the guy go because he was apparently acting in self defense. And prosecutors are still debating whether or not to charge him. If there was strong evidence that he was not acting in self-defense, they would have charged and arrested him by now.

Seriously Robby, I dig the college beat stuff for the most part, but the violence and illiberal activities really only go one way. There's no reason to call Milo supporters violent at all or 'as illiberal' as the campus leftists. Doing so by misrepresenting your sources is also not ok, FWIW.

[Fire Shikha]

The violence on college campuses is completely one-sided. More false equivalencies by the woke minds at Reason

[Krabappel]

"CAN I GET SOME MUSCLE OVER HERE!"

[Tonio]

Sigh. Any violence committed by anyone perceived perceived by SJWs to be right of them is unprovoked violence. They had it coming, anyway, because they were fascists (right, Shika?). Any violence commited by SJWs on anyone they perceive to be to the right of them is justified because words are exactly the same thing as bullets.

[Somalian Road Corporation]

Here's a video where you can clearly see the shootee very deliberately close in on the shooter.

As noted above, police themselves thought it was self-defense. The last thing I read was that they were both opposed to Milo and one mistook a crossed-out swastika tattoo for, uh, a regular swastika tattoo, so it was actually a hilarious case of left-wing blue-on-blue fire, but I'm not sure if recent developments hold that up was true, and attempting to look through articles right now is revealing that there's a pretty dismal signal:noise ratio in this regard.

[Password: pode$ta]

Note: that's the one incident Robby managed to dig up of Milo supporters being 'violent and just as illiberal as the left'. And it was self-fucking-defense.

[Hangin' with Agent Cooper]

Yiannopoulos isn't even a particularly strong vehicle for the anti-censorship message

Bullshit. There are zero degrees of being anti-censorship worthy.

[Fire Shikha]

At the end of the day, if a so called libertarian publication doesn't defend free speech- then what the fuck do they stand for? Free speech is a pretty god damn core principle.

And when they come for Reason, no amount of virtue signaling is going to save them then, to be sure

[Trshmnstr needs a new can]

if a so called libertarian publication doesn't defend free speech- then what the fuck do they stand for?

Woke Minds and Intersectional Solidarity

[GILMORE?]

President Trump really screwed up that Yemen strike.

this is like people arguing in 2009 how Obama really fucked up "that whole Iraq thing".

[The Last American Hero]

Well, he did promise to leave by 2009, so while I didn't expect progress by February, he owned that dogpile by December.

[GILMORE?]

My point was that Obama's people planned the Yemen strike months beforehand, and all Trump did was say, "Ok" when informed it was the plan.

I don't think any president deserves credit OR blame for the success or failure of these sorts of special-missions, and i think robby is being just as petty and shallow as the rabid Obama-haters were in this regard.

[waffles]

I liked Robby better when he was an alt-right sympathizer. This lefty schtick isn't a good look.

[Chipwooder]

From Althouse via Instapundit, this was a surprisingly insightful quote from Bret Easton Ellis, of all people:

"If you wanna protest, protest the DNC, protest Hillary, protest whatever. But what you're protesting here is an elected president. I think the protest is aiding this divisiveness, social media is aiding this, celebrity culture, the worst, is aiding it.... It is all about image and how people are swayed by surfaces and Trump disgusts people.... They see this big orange lump, angry, big puffy face and it really is quite a different step from the celebrity hep-cat, glamour of Obama.... People love celebrities, I love celebrities, I'm obsessed with celebrities, I've written books about celebrities, so I love that celebrity culture exists. But when celebrities become these kind of strident, political advisers, wagging their finger, really people don't buy it. I do think there has been an overreaction to what's going on."

http://tinyurl.com/gocbc39

[Rich]

Chelsea Clinton finally finds her political voice ? and it's edgy

*** facepalm ***

[straffinrun]

I was expecting "raspy wiith a hint of oak".

[Citizen X - #6]

"Burbling and much lower-pitched than you'd expect"

[straffinrun]

***lubedpalm***

[Rufus The Monocled]

Does it sound like Golum?

[Rufus The Monocled]

GoLLum.

[Swiss Servator]

Fellow H,
I am doing as RC Dean, and refraining from adding my voice to this site ? a site that seems to have decided that being a thoughtful advocate of "Free Minds and Free Markets" is too constraining, and that they must be something else. I came here a "refugee" from TEAM RED, having realized that true freedom required shunning almost every aspect of politics, and dominion over ones fellow man ? for any reason other than to prevent actual harm. Now, I am seeing far too much equivocation by the editors/authors

I will peek in, every once in a while ? nothing is permanent (or at least I hope).

But for commentary and a libertarian discussion. There will be alternatives, soon?

And the OLD GUARD said, I have surely seen the affliction of my fellow commenters which are in Hit and Run, and have heard their cry by Reason of their Webmasters; for I know their sorrows;
And I am come down to deliver them out of the hand of the Dalmians, and to bring them up out of that site unto a good site and a large, unto a site flowing with snark and information; unto the place of the Catoites, and the Hihnites, and the AEIites, and the Politicoites, and the Huffingtonites, and the Jezzebelites.

*narrows gaze, fades out, Cheshire Cat style*

[Password: pode$ta]

You will be missed, Swiss

[Tonio]

[golf clap]

Yeah, me too.

[Rich]

Tonio -- Is that "me too" meaning "missing Swiss" or "I'm leaving"?

[Tonio]

Vastly reducing my presence on here.

[Rich]

8-(

Please inform about the, um, alternative(s).

[Tyler.C Sloopy's mom matters]

I know, or else we will have to congregate at mises or something. I miss yalk

[PBR Streetgang]

Throws a wan "narrowed gaze" through teary eyes back at Switzy.

[Basketball Uber Alles, Jr.]

Goodbye, Swiss - stay neutral, keep your cheese full of holes, and your tiny red knives festooned with semi-useful attachments.

[Juvenile Bluster]

Well

bye

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

*throws roses*

[Florida Hipster]

I'm also finished giving clicks and money after 5 years of loyal support. The slide from solid articles to click bait, twitter analysis and refusal to report on a loyal supporter's legitimate story are too much. I'd like to thank all the commentariat that provided useful commentary, honest debate, fashion resources and book suggestions. You will be missed.

[Rich]

Farewell also, F H. 8-(

I am intrigued and encouraged by Swiss's "There will be alternatives, soon?"

[straffinrun]

Damn. Well, if that is how we're doing this. Let me know where you all are going and I'll check it out. Steamer? Don't even know what that is, but not much point hanging out here anymore.

[Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?]

You will be miss. Don't leave!
*imploring gaze*

[Tonio]

There is an alternative site in the works. You can join us there.

[DOOMco's Ref Chipper]

Whats the plan on that? User submitted articles?

[Tonio]

I don't know. I was going to put up a blog but had to stop working on that due to personal issues. I understand that others have taken up the work.

[DOOMco's Ref Chipper]

Gotchya. We will figure something out.

[We are all Sloopy's mom (RBS)]

There is an alternative site in the works. You can join us there.

Whats the plan on that? User submitted articles?

You know, sloopy tried that once. It did not end well...

[Basketball Uber Alles, Jr.]

Did Playa Manhattan leave too? Haven't seen him about in a while.

[Crusty Juggler - #2]

No. He walked into a Chipolte and ever walked out...

[Free Society]

Yes as I recall.

[Col. Chestbridge]

Or Irish, or Nikki.

[DOOMco's Ref Chipper]

Suthen. Banjos. Sloop.

[Free Society]

RC and Tonio

[Password: pode$ta]

RC, Humungus...

[Basketball Uber Alles, Jr.]

Lord Humungus.

[DOOMco's Ref Chipper]

Riven.

[Trshmnstr needs a new can]

Groovus

[OneOut]

OneOut.

Oh wait.

Im just waiting for Tonio to know where to go.

I've never paid much attention to the articles here anyway.

I always came for the comments and where the commentors go, so shall I.

[(((Renegade)))dicksoutforkaren]

And me, along with my OMWC and edna former personalities.

[Threedoor]

Wow. I haven't been reading the last week and missed it all.

[Threedoor]

Mainly read for the comments.

[Pan Zagloba]

God dammit. God fucking dammit.

It's alright, I still love Big Robby.

[John Titor]

Jesus they did a number on you Pan. What did your Room 101 have? Anime girls, Zombie Slobodan? Happy, breathing Bosnians?

[Rufus The Monocled]

BUT WHO WILL ADMINISTER THE NARROW GAZES?!?!?

[Chipper Morning Wood]

We need to find an Asian. East Asian. Sorry, Injun.

[Krabappel]

But then all the gazes are narrow. -_-

[This Machine Chips Fascists]

There ought to be a drink called The Narrow Gaze

[jesse.in.mb]

Cape Cod using diet cranberry cocktail?

[DOOMco's Ref Chipper]

*takes swig*
Sorry man. Stay in touch.

[Emmerson Biggins]

Damn man.

[straffinrun]

I may have received more "narrow gazes" than anyone. This is like hearing your brother won't give you noogies any longer. *Salutes the Swiss*

[Free Society]

NO I HAD THE MOST NARROWED GAZES DAMN IT

[straffinrun]

Only because of your overuse of caps lock. QUIT SHOUTING AT ME.

[Free Society]

I'm sorry. The doctor says Reason magazine has become hazardous to my cardiovascular system.

[Trshmnstr needs a new can]

*narrows blurry eyed gaze, tries to hide tears streaming down cheeks*

I hope to see you at one of the alternatives. Your presence here was a positive one and I looked forward to your contributions. (I can say the same of many of the commenters who have decided to leave)

On a similar note, upon hearing Tonio's update and with great hope that a good and long-lasting alternative will come to be, I'm packing my trashcan and rolling on down the street. I'll hang out for the rest of the evening, but I'm out starting tomorrow morning. I'm not gonna hash out the reasons why, but I'll just say a goodbye and God bless.

For riches are not forever, Nor does a crown endure to all generations.

- Prov. 27:24

[Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?]

Stay in touch. I'm not saying goodbye to any of you fuckers. You will be back hopefully.

[DOOMco's Ref Chipper]

Sad week.

[Tonio]

If that is really your vehicle, then you are awesome. If it is not, then you have excellent taste.

[John Titor]

Tis a shame.

Godspeed sir.

[Free Society]

Amen. Sad to see you go. It was good having you, Swiss. I cherish every narrowed gaze.

[BakedPenguin]

See you, Switzy

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

Fuckity-fuck-fuck----FUCK!

I too, am thoroughly disgusted with recent turns here.

I'll likely hang until a solution is developed, but Reason has seen the last of my donations.

See you on the flip-side, SS!

[Crusty Juggler - #2]

You all are going about it the wrong way. The key is to harm Reason's brand by posting stupid comments on their many frivolous articles.

[DOOMco's Ref Chipper]

Whats your favorite color, CJ?

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

He'll show you, on your smartphone.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

That's my secret plan.

[This Machine Chips Fascists]

I cum not to praise Reason but to BURY IT!

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Now THAT is how you quit social media, people. Remember, three paragraphs minimum.

Farewell, Swissy, we will miss you. I like ya. But it does sound like you never really left Team Red.

[Fire Dalmia (DoM5k)]

Good night, sweet prince

[jesse.in.mb]

*Stands outside of Lucerne holding a boombox playing KC and the Sunshine Band's Please Don't Go*

[Tonio]

Of note: Shika Dalmia does not appear on the list of Reason staff. Anyone know if this is a change, or if she wasn't listed previously since she's more of an infrequent contributor.

[Crusty Juggler - #2]

She works for the Foundation.

[Tonio]

Thanks.

[Pro Libertate]

In the box where they keep the Hari Seldon projector.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

[Tries to extinguish Krugman signal]

[Pro Libertate]

True, but I still like Asimov.

[Threedoor]

I too like incrediably boring books.

[Rufus The Monocled]

No, you mean 'The Foundation'.

/wide gaze.

[Chipwooder]

I think it was always like that because she's technically employed by the Reason Foundation, not the mag.

[greasonable]

When in doubt, check the Wayback Machine

[Crusty Juggler - #2]

Your phone is trying to control your life

One billion of us own a smartphone, and we know how addicting it can be.

One former Google employee says this is no accident. Indeed, it is by design. And he became troubled by the relentless efforts of app developers to keep us glued to the gadgets.

So, Tristan Harris founded an organization called Time Well Spent. He is asking the tech industry to bring what he calls ethical design to its products.

Phonergate.

[Rich]

Indeed, it is by design.

Those *bastards*!

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

More interested in Bonergate.

[greasonable]

The same design that leads food producers to sell products people prefer to buy.

[Somalian Road Corporation]

Wow, a device that has easy access to almost the whole of human knowledge: millions of books, movies, songs, and games. Instantaneous global communication whether text, voice, or video. Can integrate, differentiate, help me do my taxes. Keeps perfect time and wakes me up when I want it to. Shows me precisely where I am and navigates to where I'm going. Fits in a pocket and weighs less than a handgun.

Who'd want to frequently use something like that?

This guy just puts out a bunch of vague techie-primitivist babble, if you ask me. Projecting his own issues. If he's checking his phone 150 times a day to play some Skinner box clicker game or whatever and feeling bummed about it, that sounds like a personal problem.

The kind of wankery I'd expect from a PBS/The Atlantic piece, heh.

[Chipwooder]

Best random clickbait ad yet: 20 Hot Celebrities with the Best Melons.

Does Al Bundy write these?

[Pan Zagloba]

They come straight from Big Robby's id.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

It's a fruit delivery business. Don't fall for it.

[GILMORE?]

File Under = Silver Linings

Free College For People Banned from US By Trump

In Bosnia. Still! I hear they have great programs... in landmine-recovery, and, uh... election hacking....

[Krabappel]

Is that one of the countries that George Soros owns?

[Injun, as in from India]

Has that NYU town crier / professor been ID's yet?

[PBR Streetgang]

NYU said she isn't one of theirs. Maybe she is a SUNY professor. Or a community college one.
Or a Gilligan's Island one.

[Tonio]

Or maybe just faking it. Black bloc - never to be trusted.

[PBR Streetgang]

"Lying" is definitely the most likely answer.

[GILMORE?]

White House Now Free To Begin Torturing Kittens as Part of Its Long-Term "Abusing Animals" Strategy

[Injun, as in from India]

Who would have guessed "Grab 'em by the pussy" was a reference to bestiality?

[Ted S.]

Mrs. Slocombe?

[Rich]

Over 100,000 visas have been revoked as a result of President Trump's ban on travel from seven predominantly Muslim countries, an attorney for the government asserted in Alexandria, Va. federal court Friday. ... That figure was immediately disputed by the State Department, which said the number of visas revoked was roughly 60,000.

OK, if Trump wants to "drain the swamp" he can start by firing both the attorney and the spokescreature.

[Rufus The Monocled]

IT'S NOT TRUE.

105 000 were revoked.

[Pat (PM)]

Filming Cops made a video comparing Clinton and Obama immigration policy to Trump, got called fascist

Filming Cops
Everybody is interpreting the video how they want and a few people are calling us "fascist" (?), so here is our own interpretation: the video shows that presidents have expanded state power in the name of border security for quite some time and to varying degrees. Obama deported 2.5 million immigrants, more than any other president in history. Bill Clinton went so far as to deny thousands of immigrants welfare -- even food stamps -- even though many of the immigrants were legal. Why are we supposed to pretend this never happened? Why are we supposed to narrow our focus onto Trump's wall and act hysterical instead of being honest about the political reality that led to this moment? What is so "fascist" about recognizing that the State itself is the problem? We cannot fully understand the present if we fail to situate it in its historical context. It is possible to cut through the party politics of "D vs R" and reject unmitigated State power, regardless of who the president is. We will disagree with Trump if/when he expands a police state, just as we disagreed with Obama and Bush and Clinton in the past, sorry if that makes us "fascist," lol.

[Chipwooder]

Silly man, don't you know that the definition of fascist is "anyone who upsets far left rioters"?

[GILMORE?]

This is the same sort of wailing that someone like Nick regularly makes towards the left, expecting them to finally recognize that the problem is "State power" rather than simply 'the wrong people in charge'

what's the definition of insanity, again?

[Pan Zagloba]

Omg, I get to link one of my favorite scenes in a game that was sometimes much cooler than it had any right to be.

[GILMORE?]

i was actually vaguely alluding to that very scene. obviously the quote predates that reference by many years,but culturally many people seem to think it originated w. Far Cry3

[Half-Virtue, Half-Vice]

Shit, I'd love to chat bros but obligations etc. I shall return after the weekend. This is the hill I've chosen to die on. Get your shit together Reason.

[GILMORE?]

DO NOT CELEBRATE BEYONCE BEING PREGANT BY SHOOTING GUNS IN THE AIR

/an actual offical statement by an Atlanta PD

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

*thinks*

I get it. Beyonce fans are mostly chicks and gays so yeah, that tweet was very funny.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

*googles to confirm*

[Chipwooder]

The tight body blonde on the right definitely gets a big thumbs up

[Free Society]

The reemergence of high waist jeans for hot women is a travesty.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

This libertarian thinks there oughtta be a law!

[C. S. P. Schofield]

Oh, gods, poor Chelsea Clinton! Being dragged down into the morass of Political Scumbaggery that surrounds her hideous parents! Couldn't she find something more moral, more ethical, less degrading to do with her life? I'm told that internet pornographers are always looking for young women willing to be filmed mating with large dogs. Or she could become a hit-woman for the Drug Cartels.

[The Last American Hero]

She could always get a job at the CGI. Ooops, that dried up once it became clear that it couldn't be used to launder bribes to the President.

[Somalian Road Corporation]

Yeah, and, speaking of, it also became clear that the scion wasn't exactly waiting in the wings ready to deliver with her own political malfeasance. If she hasn't been shoved into some office by now... well, maybe she just doesn't have the raw lust for power her parents did. Small favors?

[Basketball Uber Alles, Jr.]

But she was so terrific on NBC!

[GILMORE?]

Couldn't she find something more moral, more ethical, less degrading to do with her life?

She's not pretty enough to do bukakke films

[Free Society]

Who doesn't fantasize about Webb Hubbell with tits covered in jizz? Amarite?

[C. S. P. Schofield]

I'm sure she could find work in some fetid corner of the porn industry. And I'm equally sure that, whatever it was short of snuff, it would be less degrading than letting her revolting parents use her as a political puppet.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

the question has long been not whether she would get involved in the family business,

So everyone now just comes out and admits that politics for the Clintons is a family business.

Kay.

[Chipwooder]

You know who else had a "family business"?

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Bob's Burgers?

[Florida Hipster]

You're all terrible...

[DOOMco's Ref Chipper]

I dont say that.

[Private Chipperbot]

But it's true.

[Libertarian]

Wendy's hamburgers.

[Hangin' with Agent Cooper]

Peter Defazio?

[Cdr Lytton]

?

[Hangin' with Agent Cooper]

The Pizza Bowl (Laverne & Shirley)

[Hangin' with Agent Cooper]

The Pizza Bowl (Laverne & Shirley)

[Pan Zagloba]

Crusty, I got some good news for you!

Breast flash GMP police chief Rebekah Sutcliffe keeps job

A top police officer who exposed a breast and mocked a colleague's "boob job" has been allowed to keep her job.
Assistant Chief Constable Rebekah Sutcliffe, 47, told temporary Supt Sarah Jackson she would "always just be known as the girl who had the tit job".

Man, BBC is converging with The Sun. Thanks, Trump!

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

"Allowed to keep her job"?

Um, if you flash your boobs at me at work, you should get promoted.

[Rich]

"Can I see some identification?"

[The Last American Hero]

+1 Cannonball Run

[Crusty Juggler - #2]

For some reason that makes me think: "Simon is acting like a massive tit. Stop him."

[GILMORE?]

Have you ever had nightmares about "Transgender George W Bush"?

Stare at this picture

[Rufus The Monocled]

Prepares to have sex with Jenna. Turns away.

'I can't. I just can't. It's too much freaky!'

[Basketball Uber Alles, Jr.]

Barbara was the hotter one, by a good margin.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

You are an evil fucker for making me do that.

[ant1sthenes]

I saw a picture of her the other day and thought the same thing. It's fucking creepy.

[Crusty Juggler - #2]

Tostitos' New Breathalyzer Chip Bag Is Here to Be Your New Best Friend

Just in time for the biggest snacking and drinking holiday of the year ? Super Bowl Sunday, of course ? Tostitos is launching a new bag of chips that doubles as a breathalyzer.

The limited-edition "Party Safe" bag is meant to discourage drinking and driving, and will even provide those with a trace of alcohol on their breath with a $10 Uber code on the day of the big game. The company promises it comes equipped with an alcohol sensor that, when breathed into, will turn red if alcohol is detected and green if it's not.

[Rich]

"Tostitos is the tits!"

[straffinrun]

Kellyanne Conway conceded that the Bowling Green Massacre never happened. She called it "an honest mistake."

Now Mucho Grande? We'll never get over that.

[Bronson, Missouri]

How he survived...was a miracle...

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

So WaPo is reduced to covering Twitter spats. 4th estate indeed.

[american socialist]

Lol. I love how the press writes stories about how twitter lost it or how twitter destroyed so and so

Oh so epic

[Chipper Morning Wood]

WaPo is a total joke these days. Reads like a teenage blog.

[Fire Dalmia (DoM5k)]

People need to stop treating WaPo as if it has any significance whatsoever. They are a bunch of self-important hacks who aren't even good at their pathetic jobs.

[american socialist]

So was the yemen thing approved by obama admin and carried out by trump?

Anyway nymag? Wtf is up with providing links to heavily partisan political blogs. I dont get it

[Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?]

I was going to start bitching about it but that article references a Reuters article.

[american socialist]

Ah thanks. So why not link that. Journalists love to do this...cant they do own work?

[Chipwooder]

Thing is, who the hell knows what to trust when it comes to anonymous "sources" now? Not that I don't think Trump is capable of fucking up on a grand scale in many ways, but I also believe that many, many bureaucrats (and that's exactly what most generals are) are perfectly willing to lie through their teeth to make him look bad.

[Rich]

After being robbed a handful of times in the past few months, one Baltimore coffee shop is no longer accepting cash to stop the robberies and keep their staff safe.

*** pulls out dollar bill, reads "... for all debts ..." ***

[DOOMco's Ref Chipper]

Look, you start selling caffiene, youre gonna need a gun.

[greasonable]

You can't get in debt until a service is provided.

[Hangin' with Agent Cooper]

I think I've located the problem:

Coffee? No.
Cash? No.
Baltimore? Hmmm.

[GILMORE?]

AP has interesting gloss about McInness event @ NYU

McInnes is the founder of a group called the "Proud Boys." He dubs himself a "western chauvinist," uses racial epithets in his essays and has argued that women make less money because they are less ambitious than men.

Its interesting how much they have to tart up descriptions when its not some left-wing group like the SPLC

[GILMORE?]

Reuters seems to at least be more-honest (or less ridiculously desperate to demonize him), and merely calls him a "Conservative Comedian"

[Pat (PM)]

Louvre attack: Egyptian man, 29, believed to be assailant

French authorities say they believe the man who tried to attack the Louvre museum in the capital Paris on Friday was a 29-year-old Egyptian man.

Prosecutor Francois Molins said he is thought to have travelled to Paris from Dubai on a tourist visa last month.

Police are trying to establish if the man acted alone or under instructions, he added.

The machete-wielding attacker was critically injured after he was shot by French soldiers in a bid to stop him.

One of the soldiers received minor injuries when the man tried to enter the museum.

At the time of the incident, hundreds of visitors were inside the Louvre, which is home to numerous celebrated art works, including the Mona Lisa.

President Francois Hollande praised the soldiers' actions, saying "this operation prevented an attack whose terrorist nature leaves little doubt".

[John]

Probably one of those damned Egyptian Buddhists again. I hate those guys.

[The Last American Hero]

Don't pick on the dude. He's sexually confused and engaging in workplace violence as a result. It's a tragedy.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Did he shout anything?

I'm guessing 'we must fight obesity!'

[Trshmnstr needs a new can]

"All o' you, rat parts!"

We're still trying to figure out what it means.

[Gray Ghost]

The bad guy got shot six times in the legs and guts, IIRC. On the one hand, this'll mean they have to keep him around, OTOH, they can talk to him about who and what he knows.

In other news, some "male of Hispanic or Middle Eastern descent, 6'0, thin build, with a heavy beard and wearing all black clothing and a black beanie" threw a bomb into a Cheesecake Factory in Southern California last night.

I continue to thank God that our home grown terror-causing idiots lack the explosives manufacturing skills of their European or Syrian/Iraqi brethren.

[Gray Ghost]

And I now realize I could have just scrolled down to see the SoCal bombing news. Oh well.

Shameful that Dalmia still has a job here and that Reason didn't feel that the arrest and beating of Sloopy's mom merited their time.

Tonio, if you know anything about any alternative project, please keep us informed.

(Why is going en masse to Gryillade not an option?)

[John]

Authorities were searching for a man who threw a "homemade pyrotechnic device" containing gunpowder into a crowded downtown Pasadena restaurant Thursday night, sending diners scrambling for cover, police said.

The man who threw the device was described as about 6 feet tall with a thin build and heavy beard. He wore all black clothing and a black beanie.

The motive is not known, police said.

What could it possibly be?

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/n.....47633.html

[Rich]

He really, *really* hates cheesecake?

[PBR Streetgang]

Robert Reich is certain it is an alt-righter in disguise.

[ant1sthenes]

There is a certain sense in which you could call islamists an alternative right. Especially ISIS, which basically just took Nazism, crossed out all the places where it said "German" and scribbled "Muslim" in over it. That's why opposition to Islam is racism now -- you can't be the Master Race unless you're, you know, a race.

[Password: pode$ta]

The motive is not known, police said.

We may never know! Can you ever really know what's in a man's heart?!

[Mr Lizard]

Well after you have torn his throat out with your teeth. Then you must sink your claws into the left side of the rib cage between two ribs. Then yank up and down simultaneously until they separate. Scoop out contents and examine.

MUST I TELL YOU MAMMALS EVERYTHING!!!!

[Password: pode$ta]

Don't leave, Mr. Lizard. I value your knowledge of human anatomy.

[Florida Hipster]

Mr. Lizard, you may begin your orbital bombardment.

[jesse.in.mb]

HEY! Some of us are still he

*is crushed by space rocks*

[Florida Hipster]

*places finger is Jesse's open wound, a la Feinstein*

[jesse.in.mb]

See! I'm going to miss the shameless flirting. Nobody else here would just *know* how much I like a good Feinsteining.

[Florida Hipster]

*hugs Jesse*
/lots of homo

[Basketball Uber Alles, Jr.]

CHARLIE: Someone check his pulse.

DEE: HE DOESN'T HAVE A HEAD!

[Hangin' with Agent Cooper]

Have you seen their menu? It's too big. There's no way you can cook all of that that well.

[Emmerson Biggins]

What's with Steam being a possible place to seek refuge for the scourge of the cosmos?

I thought that was for buying games. Somebody unignorant me.

[Trshmnstr needs a new can]

There's a social/messaging aspect to steam that people are leveraging for a temporary refuge from Reason until a canonical alternative is established.

[Free Society]

shikha sood dalmia ?@shikhadalmia Feb 2

Honest condemnation of #Berkley violence must also condemn those who invited him.What's point except baiting n inciting in Trump's America?

shikha sood dalmia ?@shikhadalmia 4h4 hours ago

No matter what the moral rot on the left, the right always manages to outdo it! Sad!

shikha sood dalmia ?@shikhadalmia 26m26 minutes ago

When facts are always "alternative," brute force is all that's left in settling with intellectual opponents!

[John]

Did she ever elaborate on how the right has out done the left? Was there a rightwing riot I haven't' heard about?

[straffinrun]

Voting Trump was the riot.

[PBR Streetgang]

voting the wrong way IS violence

[Chipwooder]

Hate speech is as deadly as a gun, man.

[Free Society]

She did not elaborate. But to put in context for you, she said it as a relativity defense of the vicious mob of antifa thugs in Berkeley trying to silence, maim or kill Milo.

[straffinrun]

When facts are always "alternative," brute force is all that's left in settling with intellectual opponents!

Holy fucking shit. That is possibly the most irresponsible thing I've seen posted by a "journalist".

[Free Society]

She's lower than a journalist. She's a bottom feeding useful idiot for Marxists.

[Password: pode$ta]

No matter what the moral rot on the left, the right always manages to outdo it! Sad!

I saw this too and almost posted it earlier.

What the fuck was she referring to?

It reminds me of this one:

shikha sood dalmia ?@shikhadalmia Jan 30
More
Did I call this one or did I call this one? Minority Activism Will Save the Constitution in Trump's America

How? Where? What are you talking about, Shikha?

[Free Society]

She's saying either white people are inferior or non-white people are superior.

[Gray Ghost]

I find it hilarious that pretty much the only Twitter commenter engaging with Dalmia on today's posts is that psychopath Kizone.

Was it ever established that the moniker was one of Mary's personas?

In any event, Reason, no matter how much right now the Koch's or other donors' money makes you feel invincible, it is extremely embarrassing for a magazine that values free minds and markets to have on their foundation, a writer who is publicly advocating, "When facts are always "alternative," brute force is all that's left in settling with intellectual opponents!"

[John Titor]

When facts are always "alternative," brute force is all that's left in settling with intellectual opponents!

My god am I sick of people who would end up whimpering on the ground in fair fight calling for violence against others. Not that I want ex-Marines beating the shit out of people either, but the cowardice is disgusting.

[Chipwooder]

Ex-Marine? Ain't no such thing, baby! RAHHHHHHHHH!

I suffered for five years - you're damned right I'm going to milk it for the rest of my life.

[John Titor]

Among the top books chosen, Mattis recommended "No True Glory" by Bing West, "Battle Ready" by Tom Clancy, Sun Tzu's "The Art of War," ten of the most difficult books to read of all time, and The Bible. Marines, however, were only assigned four coloring books.

"Four? Good Lord, that's unfair," said Lance Cpl. Anderson Malcolm, a Marine infantryman who proudly displays his "good enough degree" on his barracks room wall.

My sympathies.

[Gray Ghost]

I get this confused all of the time. Which is the one that pisses you guys off: "ex-Marine" or "former Marine?"

There's got to be a shorthand for someone who was once in the Corps, and now isn't, but didn't retire.

[John]

It is. I hold people like her in more contempt than the actual; leftist thugs. At least the thugs have the balls to risk jail or someone fighting back. They are despicable but that is still better than someone like Dalmia who cowers in the corner encouraging and excusing them but would never do anything herself.

[Hangin' with Agent Cooper]

Shikha is advocating for Americans to kill Americans on the streets.

[Pat (PM)]

Yeah, with that last one, I think I'm done here as well. Everybody worth talking to is leaving anyway. If I want left leaning immigration commentary I can get it from The Atlantic from far cleverer writers who don't have a violence fetish. Fuck Shikha and fuck the Reason foundation for employing her. I only hope that some day this overprivileged cunt chooses to live the courage of her convictions and learns a hard (but brief) lesson about armed self defense. Welcome to America.

[Fire Dalmia (DoM5k)]

Everybody worth talking to is leaving anyway.

Your dig at us loyal hangers on is sharp but fair.

[Private Chipperbot]

But so far it's not clear what ? if anything ? could have been done to prevent the tragic events in Yemen.

President Trump really screwed up that Yemen strike.

Reason is a fucking dumpster fire.

[Password: pode$ta]

He just needed more time in the simulator!

[GILMORE?]

My favorite RHNB video yet.

the sound effects (and the eyes) are what get me. I need to GIF this.

[Jerms]

Kellyann Conway says something dumb--wall to wall coverage.
One of the honorees at the womens march said Osama Bin Laden is a hero--crickets.

[Chipwooder]

Well, no one cared that one of the organizers is a women who kidnapped, tortured, and murdered a man in a ransom plot, so yeah I can see why no one cares about an idiotic statement.

[Rich]

TPTB knew she meant "Obama". It's a common and innocent mistake.

[Free Society]

Read my column at The Daily Beast on why Steve Bannon and President Trump welcome the kind of violence that prevented Milo Yiannopoulos from speaking at Berkeley.

Fuck yourself you lying halfwit

[Aloysious]

Joachim Bueckelaer, the well stocked kitchen.

Because I'm hungry.

[GILMORE?]

why Steve Bannon and President Trump welcome the kind of violence that prevented Milo Yiannopoulos from speaking at Berkeley.

I'll have to amend my below summary of "Robby Rationales"

The issue, as Robby posits it, isn't that aggression is de-facto wrong, isn't that its merely unwarranted and unjust, isn't that it justifies (and may even demand) violence in response (as we've recently seen)...

...its that it fails to achieve the (apparently valid) goals of the people being violent.

(*OR - Makes Bad People Happy)

[Password: pode$ta]

It's worse than that. See my comments above. He basically says the Milo supporters are just as violent/illiberal as the leftists and his source is a link where a pro-Milo dude was acting in self-defense at a violent protest.

[GILMORE?]

He basically says the Milo supporters are just as violent/illiberal as the leftists

FINE... i'll go read the thing...

Yiannopoulos isn't even a particularly strong vehicle for the anti-censorship message, given that his own supporters lash out at their critics with just as much illiberal fervor, and occasionally, with violence.

All that said, it remains a fact that Berkeley is a public university, and students should have the right to bring someone to campus who has the sole intention of hurling insults at people.

'All that said' is today's "To be sure".

Never lead with the principle of the matter! Make sure the throat-clearing-denunciations precede any appeal to basic decency or civility. Also = Equivocate about violence, comparing destructive mob-riots with a single-instance of self-defense which has no clear connection to any 'supporters'.

[Free Society]

I think most people are by now on board with the notion that Robby is a symptom of what's wrong with this publication.

[GILMORE?]

I don't think "the publication" is inherently compromised.

i think there have been a few silly editoral and hiring decisions. I was here before they came, and i'll probably be here long after they're gone.

What does bother me is that they seem very very slow to recognize failing strategies. The people who argue that the tenor of the mag is to serve as "outreach" to non-libertarians have one serious flaw = Its not working

In the last 8 years, i haven't seen any enlargement of the libertarian POV being represented anywhere among millenials. Instead, i've seen things like Milo's version of the "Alt right" boom out of nowhere (*read, the "not really racist" version).... and libertarians are mostly seen as useless and toothless.

If there were a new strategy under Trump, i'd like to think it was more coherent than, "Just repeat the moaning complaints that everyone else in the media does".

[Free Society]

What does bother me is that they seem very very slow to recognize failing strategies. The people who argue that the tenor of the mag is to serve as "outreach" to non-libertarians have one serious flaw = Its not working

Non-libertarians are a group that includes non-leftists as well as leftists. Nick can deflect and proclaim there is no "right or left", but as a matter of fact those two labels broadly describe one's views on human nature. Leftist's are not the natural allies of libertarians, they are natural enemies.

As I've said previously, Reason can reach out to leftists all they want but they're not going to make the left more libertarian, they're far more likely to make libertarianism more leftist. Most of those people cannot possibly be saved or redeemed. So they need to put their arguments out there and let them stand on their own merit, if a few leftists become libertarians, that's fine. But god damn it they shouldn't be accepting fallacious leftist premises in an effort to get progs and socialists to board our ship without first discarding their baggage.

[ant1sthenes]

The fact that so many writers have a foot in the door at a non- or anti-libertarian publication is what's wrong with this publication.

A man cannot serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other; or else he will be devoted to one and despise the other.

[GILMORE?]

I think there is probably truth to this.

Its a launching pad for some, and a destination mostly for people who wouldn't *want* to be anywhere else.

the trick is finding the right kind of people for that former category. Its hard, i'm sure. Most hiring decisions are more a matter of finding 'competent' people who also are pleasant people to work with. Often the latter is more important than the former. Actually finding people with passion and talent is maybe more luck than hiring-foresight.

also, libertarians are like freaking hens-teeth. most people who say they ARE one often are the wrong sort entirely. its the people who don't really know they are who turn out to be the best ones.

[Rhywun]

people who also are pleasant people to work with

When I'm interviewing someone, I don't even bother asking about skills anymore. Granted, there's vetting before they get to me but that's all I care about.

[John Titor]

Robby just wants the left to push their agenda through non-violence means like debate...so they can then use a violent institution to enforce their will over you.

You know, like a libertarian should.

[Free Society]

I'm not one to walk away from stupid people making bad arguments when there is so much dialectical slaying to be done, but I can absolutely understand the growing body of commentarians that just can't tolerate it anymore. Robby writes like a parody of himself.

[lafe.long]

Kellyanne Conway conceded that the Bowling Green Massacre never happened. She called it "an honest mistake."

Another link to this:
Conway says she misspoke on 'massacre'

^^^^ So AP has a "Fact Check" category now.

Of course nothing before Nov 29 2016.

[lafe.long]

Sweden's 'feminist government' takes swipe at Trump

Sweden's Deputy Prime Minister has posted on Facebook an all-woman photo including herself signing a proposal for the country's new climate law -- a photo many online commentators have taken as a direct swipe at Donald Trump.
Friday's picture shows Isabella Lovin seated in front of the document surrounded by seven female members of her staff.

Swedish media say it resembles photos of U.S. President Donald Trump in the Oval office surrounded by his male advisors.

[Somalian Road Corporation]

What a group of joyful-looking women.

[Rich]

Looks like the one on the right has a bun in the oven, too.

[Free Society]

She was raped but decided to marry the father so he wouldn't be deported, because that would play into the hands of the right wing!

[blighted non millenial]

This is not the Sweden I have been led to believe exists.

[Rufus The Monocled]

It's, erm...cute.

/face palm.

[The Last American Hero]

Trump, the pro-choice supporter of expanding family paid leave?

[american socialist]

What the fuck is a climate law?

[Hangin' with Agent Cooper]

Conway not real woman.

[lafe.long]

Cartwheeling teacher wasn't wearing underwear, arrested for indecent exposure, police say

Police in northern Oklahoma say they've arrested a substitute teacher on an indecent exposure complaint after she reportedly did a cartwheel in front of students while wearing a skirt but no undergarments.

The Pawhuska Police Department says a student recorded the incident on a cellphone. Police Chief Scott Laird says the incident reportedly happened during a high school choir class in Pawhuska, about 100 miles northeast of Oklahoma City.

The substitute teacher, whose name has not been released, was arrested Tuesday afternoon. Pawhuska police say she remains jailed Wednesday morning.

Sorry, no pics. =(

[The Last American Hero]

Wonder what the teacher's goin' to look like this year.

whoooaaaa

[Free Society]

From the comments:

According to Fox Alternative News, the high school is home to the, "Pawhuska Beavers".

[lafe.long]

Advice from cops: Don't talk to cops

All around this country, every day and night, police officers are advising other people's children to give up their right to remain silent by answering a few questions, or to consent to a search that the officer has no right to demand.

But, it turns out, when these same officers go home at night, they advise their children to do just the opposite.

That pretty much sums it all up, and tells you just about everything you need to know about dealing with the police.

[Chipwooder]

My tipping point for that was the "don't talk to cops" video that a lot of people have seen, where a law professor has one of his students, a former detective, explain how often he saw people inadvertently incriminate themselves because they talked without a lawyer.

Like a lot of people, I grew up a good law and order type. It took a while and many stories before I realized that cops are not your friends.

[Somalian Road Corporation]

Yeah, this is one of those things where kids get straight-up life-destroyingly bad advice from their parents, not just police giving talks in schools.

[lafe.long]

Romanians protest en masse against corruption decree

Romanian Prime Minister Sorin Grindeanu has appealed for calm after a third night of nationwide demonstrations against an emergency law that would essentially decriminalize corruption.

"Unfortunately a peaceful protest tonight turned into a violent one. I must start by saying that I respect the right of Romanians to protest," Grindeanu said in a statement on his Facebook page.

Wait... the Romanian Prime Minister's Facebook Page?!?

[Pan Zagloba]

So much classier than a Twitter. Oooh, those elegant Europeans...

[The Late P Brooks]

The opposite of this headline about Chelsea Clinton.

What the fuck is that even supposed to mean?

[Pro Libertate]

Just keeping the legend alive.

You know, it's hard not to see the Clintons as educated white trash.

[Aloysious]

Titian the flaying of marsyas

Because I'm cranky.

[straffinrun]

For you D&D fans out there. Build that wall.

[Aloysious]

kewl.

[jesse.in.mb]

So I had the opportunity to lose my virginity several years earlier than I did, but talking to the guy he kept saying kewl both verbally and in instant messages (it was the '90s). I just couldn't bring myself to do it.

[Aloysious]

It is an indicator of nerdiness...

I'm in a looking at paintings mood, here's one for you.

NSFW - nude male buttocks.

[jesse.in.mb]

In '98 I perceived it as trendy and overly affected.

I do like male butts, painted or otherwise.

[DOOMco's Ref Chipper]

I may or may not read all your comments in tina belchers voice.

[Florida Hipster]

That's going in the butt bank...

[jesse.in.mb]

Butts Community Bank

Dick Pic Vault in basement.

Totally unrelated (I promise) I've been asked to make sure I have your contact info in case one of the alternate sites gets up and running. Feel free to drop me a line at the linked email in my handle. Dick pics not required.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

"I like male butts, and I cannot lie,
Your other parts can't deny,
When a guy walks in and he all shitfaced,
And a tight round anus in your face,
You get sprung, you get rough,
Cause you notice that butt never been stuffed,"

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Yeah, for some reason I read Jesse's comment above in Sir Mixalot's voice.

[Florida Hipster]

There is a documentary on Netflix about a guy who makes models of dungeons so you can see the story.

http://m.imdb.com/title/tt5170428/

[straffinrun]

That guy is awesome. Reminds me of the first time I played D&D. My brother invited me to play with him and his, hmmm, socially challenged friends. I was always a poon hound and gave up my Saturday night to sit in the basement with these dudes. They created a character for me which was actually me and did a little vote to evaluate my score. These fuckers gave me a 9 on charisma. I looked at their scores and they had all given each other 17s and 18s. Made me chuckle.

[Florida Hipster]

Have you watch the documentary? There is an insanely hot Asian lady with an eye patch. If I knew that was part of D&D I would have played.

[straffinrun]

I've only seen that video you posted. Seems like a KEWL guy. I'm not an obsessive D&D player and never was but always appreciated dorks that embraced the things they loved even if they were mocked for it. *Especially if they were mocked for it.

[Florida Hipster]

It's a really inspiring story. I won't give any spoilers, but if you have Netflix it's worth a watch.

[jesse.in.mb]

an insanely hot Asian lady with an eye patch

Is it weird that I know someone like that?

[Chipper Morning Wood]

I would love to do a libertarian centric campaign. Haven't played D&D in years. Anyone wanna start something?

[Florida Hipster]

Anyone wanna start something?

*throws whiskey bottle, rips off shirt*

COME ON! YOU SMELL PRETTY!

[Chipper Morning Wood]

[Rolls charisma check]

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Audi steps on its own dick, social signals on gender wage gap, then defends its own gender wage gap on the arguments which debunk gender wage gap *takes deep breath* HAHAHAHAHAHA!

[DOOMco's Ref Chipper]

Haha awesome.

[John]

That commercial is pretty bad. On the other hand, the people who buy Audis, likely think it is great. So, I am not ready to say Audi stepped on its dick here.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Best comment on the article:

Audi sedans are still priced at 53% more than Ford sedans. As a consumer that believes in progress, I am committed to equal pay for equal product.

[John]

They are wildly over priced for what you can get from a Ford or even a Cadillac. That wasn't always the case. But American car makers have gotten their shit together over the last five years.

You buy and Audi or a BMW for status or emotional reasons.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Audi is just a Volkswagen with a bit more make-up.

[John]

Yeah. The only true German car left is Porsche and Merc

[Free Society]

Fucking hell I've been posting at reason for about 5 years and at the rate the Old Guard is fleeing, I'm becoming a senior member. Not the kind of promotion you like to get. Look yourself in the figurative mirror Reason.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

I'm from the school they tore down to build the old school.

[Pro Libertate]

I go way back. Met VP at a conference when she was EIC. Harry Browne and Milton Friedman were there, among others. Must've started commenting 2000 or earlier.

[Rich]

How was Harry in person? If anything like his books must have been OK!

[Chipper Morning Wood]

I would have loved to have met Harry. Now there's a libertarian. Last good LP nominee.

[B.P.]

Met Harry a couple of times. Nice guy. Soft spoken. He broke complex issues down into digestible bits that appealed to the audience.

[Pro Libertate]

I only talked to him briefly, but he seemed like a serious libertarian. Friedman was impressive--and very short. David Brin was there, too. Talked to him a bit on privacy.

[We are all Sloopy's mom (RBS)]

Jesus christ, did you tie an onion around your belt? I've been here since about 2006 though. The first issue of the magazine I actually read was the "Ova for Sale" one.

[Free Society]

It was the style at the time!

[Stormy Dragon]

Must've started commenting 2000 or earlier.

Hit & Run

Hit & Run is Reason's group blog. It is maintained and written by the staff of the magazine. It was started in 2002.

[Basketball Uber Alles, Jr.]

Maybe Reason had another outlet for comments before Hit and Run?

[B.P.]

I too am a charter commenter. Many an interesting character has drifted through this forum. Or maybe it's just one of you with thousands of personae.

[Gray Ghost]

They had something for comments before 9/11. I want to say I even lurked here before I moved from CA in 1999.

It may not have been called Hit and Run though.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Pro L just meant "commenting"... that didn't mean online.

I sit in my basement and make comments all the time.

[Pro Libertate]

Or I was just going from memory. Seems like it was before 2002, but I won't swear to it. And there must've been some time spend lurking, right?

[Feet First (Kevin)]

I feel like there was a comment section somewhere here before then too. I think I've been lurking since before 2000. I picked up a print copy of Reason on the USAir shuttle 1998 or so.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

You are gonna have to start dispensing wisdom.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Why start now?

[Free Society]

It stings.

[GILMORE?]

This photo says so much about European Politics

the first thing that occurred to me was, the title of the story is about "Europe Uniting"

... but the three people pictured (Tsipras, Hollande, Merkel) are nothing if not the poster-children for "WHY THE EU IS LIKELY TO COLLAPSE"

I mean, I'm pretty sure every single one of them is going to be out of a job in the next 18 months (or sooner), and all of them are to blame for country-specific woes, as well as collective EU-relationship dissolution. what could they possibly be laughing about?

[straffinrun]

Francois Hollande, the outgoing Socialist president of France, led criticism of Trump, calling it "unacceptable" for him to applaud Brexit

Advocating Remain, however....

[GILMORE?]

this is sort of funny = Brits unimpressed by Obama's use of the term "queue"

[Rich]

At a Vietnamese restaurant in London he asked "Is this the pho queue?"

[american socialist]

I hope the EU breaks up

[Free Society]

Monster!

[Rhywun]

what could they possibly be laughing about?

They're drunk?

[lafe.long]

Frederick Douglass, A Plea for Free Speech (via Spiked's Brendan O'Neill)

To be sure, Douglass said some reprehensible things that should be criticized.

One and God make a majority.
~Frederick Douglass

[Password: pode$ta]

Frederick Douglass's supporters were just as illiberal and violent as the other side. To be sure.

[Stormy Dragon]

And they refused to cover a story about cops beating up sloppy's mom while she was trying to help a kid in major physical distress during a basketball game (she's a nurse) because it is 'not quite Reason...

Commenting here clearly obligates Reason to get directly involved in all of our personal problems. I'm still pissed Gillespie didn't bring me breakfast in bed this morning as I ordered him to!

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Unless your breakfast consisted of Foie Gras, there was nothing libertarian about it.

[Stormy Dragon]

Fried sea turtle eggs seasoned with orphan tears.

[John]

I don't know what good it would do anyway. Who has ever been saved by reason covering their story?

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Who was that dude that was taken off death row?

[John]

They got someone off death row? Really? Good for them.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

John will never leave us.

[GILMORE?]

Cory Maye

Balko's was the last great thing this mag really did (at least that i can remember). I'd count Ira Stoll's NYT nail salons piece up there, but sadly they didn't really stick with the idea. (busting the mainstream media in lies)

[John]

Maye counts. and I think they were of some assistance to the poor bastard down in Virginia who shot the cops kicking in his door by mistake.

But all of that was Balko. They lost Balko and hired Soave. There is no sugar coating it, that wasn't an upgrade.

[Free Society]

Why should Reason care about mainstream media's lies? Their lies are useful to them now that there's a Republican president.

[DOOMco's Ref Chipper]

Some of the parents who have been fucked with for letting kids walk places?

[Basketball Uber Alles, Jr.]

Such an accurate summary!

[The Late P Brooks]

From Trump's BotchedRaid link:

The Obama administration spent months planning the raid, but the New York Times reports that President Obama did not authorize the attack because the Pentagon wanted to conduct the attack on a moonless night, which wouldn't happen again during his term.

One of the three officials told Reuters, "The decision was made ? to leave it to the incoming administration, partly in the hope that more and better intelligence could be collected."

It sounds like having that plan hanging on the line for a few weeks might have provided al q with an opportunity to collect more and better intelligence.

[B.P.]

"...the Pentagon wanted to conduct the attack on a moonless night, which wouldn't happen again during his term."

And then Trump was elected and the light, which had shone bright for eight years, went out all over the world.

[The Late P Brooks]

The Reuters report does not offer any more detail on whether the officials fault the Obama administration for inadequate prep work as well, or what exactly they think the Trump team should have done differently.

Huh.

[american socialist]

Was this in the nymag article? wow props to them

[John]

http://pjmedia.com/parenting/2.....stry-jobs/

Charter School trains kids for oil and gas jobs. This is for Progs what a school run by wife swapping atheists that taught kids satanism would be for SOCONs. The horror. These charter schools are corrupting our children!!

[Rhywun]

Trade schools? How unbecoming!

[Ken Shultz]

Kellyanne Conway misspoke?

Oh noes!

How will the Union survive?

[The Late P Brooks]

Was this in the nymag article?

yes

[american socialist]

Kind of shocked lol. Usually they just try to steer readers to a conclusion

[Florida Hipster]

So I just tried to delete my Reason account and got a 404 error. WTF did you use the money I gave you for?

[John]

You can only check in. You can never check out.

[Free Society]

Sort of like the Hotel California.

[commodious rebrands]

Man, come on, H&R had a rough week, and we hate the fucking Eagles, man.

[Free Society]

Here I thought they really tied the commentariat together.

[Trshmnstr needs a new can]

Hey FH,

before you go, make sure to get plugged in with somebody here so that you can get info about the alternatives that are coming in the near future.

I don't check it often, but you can send contact info to (the first word of my username) [at] gmail.com. If you do, I'll make sure to keep you up to date.

[The Late P Brooks]

So I just tried to delete my Reason account and got a 404 error. WTF did you use the money I gave you for?

They hired an Indian call center. Somebody with a funny accent will call and wheedle you into giving them one more chance, and please accept this special offer as a token of appreciation.

[Free Society]

[insert Shikha Dalmia joke]

[Branded Man]

As a long time lurker, regulars, please don't leave. Your banter must continue, if only for my personal amusement. Although, I do get that #sloopysmommatters.

[MetalBard]

I haven't posted anything for awhile, but I do still occasionally lurk around. Sad to see Reason fall apart like this, another life claimed by Trump Derangement Syndrome, will we ever find the cure?

Anyways I noticed a lot of people posting about finding a new place to post, and comment, and I wondered if any of you guys have ever heard of Minds.com it's brand new, still in beta, but it allows you to create your own groups, and it could really use a Libertarian group. I've been posting in a anti-SJW group there for awhile (although sadly it looks like it's being infiltrated by a bunch of racist idiots).

Go there and make a group called Hit n Run exiles or something, I would do it myself, but I don't feel like playing moderator.

[straffinrun]

See what happens when you conflate issues? Violent responses to words and peaceful assembly are wrong. "I agree, but Pam Geller is...". I don't care. The issue is not her point of view. What's the point of denouncing the people whose free speech is being violated? It's just so damn vain.

[Fire Dalmia (DoM5k)]

When the reaction to speech is violence, the content of that speech becomes irrelevant.

[The Fusionist]

I haven't read the comments yet...I bet they'll be tame and anodyne, right?

First, let me read Rico Suave's column on the campus riots...

[The Fusionist]

I hope the last person at H&R remembers to turn out the lights. Sheesh.

[Free Society]

Shikha Dalmia's latest abject stupidity:

shikha sood dalmia ?@shikhadalmia 43m43 minutes ago

Here's the absurdity of the right: Fox guest compares fear she felt w/ Obamacare to fear generated by Trump's purges of actual people!

So Trump's purge is what? Him firing federal workers or him suspending immigration temporarily from a small list of countries that was drawn up by Obama? Is Shikha trying to paint him as a Stalinist? That would be funny considering that she is an apologist for the violent actions of Stalin's ideological kin.

[Fire Dalmia (DoM5k)]

firing federal workers for open and very public insubordination

Let's be perfectly clear on what happened

[Free Society]

Yeah but they were actual people, unlike those right-wingers!

The most ridiculous part though really is that she's ridiculing this person and "the right" for having more anxiety over the unfathomable catastrophe that is Obamacare than they do about some left-activist federal employees and Obama appointees getting fired from their tax funded jobs. At what point will someone with some sayso pull her fucking card? I'm sure the No True Scotsman arguments will flow, but this woman is nothing resembling a libertarian and she's a damn fraud for claiming such.

[Tonio]

Anyone wishing to contact me may now do so at my new email address:

[e-mail]

Jesse and Groovus can verify that this is the real me.