Kellyanne Conway Invents 'Bowling Green Massacre,' Uber CEO Quits Trump Economic Council, How Legalization Changed Teen Pot Use in Colorado: AM Links

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  In an interview on Hardball Thursday evening, Trump counselor Kellyanne Conway defended his executive order on immigration by citing Barack Obama's response to the "Bowling Green Massacre," an incident "most people don't know [about] because it didn't get covered." It was not covered, however, because it is not a thing that actually happened.

• White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer told a press briefing Thursday that Trump was putting Iran "on notice" because Iran had attacked a U.S. naval ship; in actuality, suspected Houthi rebels in Yemen (a group loosely linked to the Iranian government, but definitely distinct from it) attacked a Saudi naval vessel.
• U.S. Senators voted 52-48 Friday morning to cut off debate about whether Betsy DeVos should be confirmed as the next education secretary, clearing the way for a final confirmation vote next week.
• A man with a machete was shot by a French soldier as he attempted to enter the Louvre in Paris, in what police head Michel Cadot called "an attack by a person … who represented a direct threat and whose actions suggested a terrorist context."
• Uber CEO Travis Kalanick has quit Donald Trump's economic council, according to the Associated Press. Kalanick told Uber employees Thursday that "joining the group was not meant to be an endorsement of the president or his agenda but unfortunately it has been misinterpreted to be exactly that."
• The Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment (CDPHE) finds that teen cannabis consumption "has not changed since legalization either in terms of the number of people using or the frequency of use among users."
• Eleven people were arrested after protesters stormed a room on the New York University campus where conservative pundit and former Vice editor Gavin McInnnes was speaking.
• A Georgia bill would ban universities from initiating sexual assault disciplinary hearings unless a criminal investigation had been launched.
• "The truth about Nazi Furries."

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Comments

[Fist of Etiquette]

So very many links.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Hello.

[Certified Public Asshat]

The people are leaving Fist, ENB is hoping more links will help.

[Swiss Servator]

I am about to fade into lurking, myself. Or leaving - whichever.

[lafe.long]

I just saw this in one of my feeds and thought of you:

"What's the greatest thing about Switzerland?"

"Well, the flag's a big plus."

[Swiss Servator]

*narrows gaze*

For me, batons kirsch.

[Florida Hipster]

Same.

[Fire Dalmia (DoM5k)]

I left for a while. Between being super-busy at work and just getting fed up with the hyperbolic Trump pants-shitting, I found that my time was better spent elsewhere. I pop back in from time to time (now, for example) but plan to spend a lot less time around here.

Still appreciate the commenters, of course. But the staff here has almost entirely lost its mind.

[Slammer]

You're on NOTICE, reason

[Rufus The Monocled]

Like they care.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

The dismissive tone on the response to Sloopy is what pisses me off most.

The TDS stuff will calm down, but that was a kind of a "Fuck you guys, you don't matter."

[Mr. Flanders]

Who the fuck is Sloopy and his mom? Why should I give a shit about this?

[Not a True MJG]

Well, yeah, we don't.

[Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?]

Reason needs to fact check their selves before they wreck their selves.

[Fist of Etiquette]

"The truth about Nazi Furries."

HT Jesse?

[That's A Bingo!]

You know who else linked to Nazi Furries?

[Chipper Morning Wood]

I think waffles was the one.

[juris imprudent]

Given there was no additional info I refuse to click on that link as I am pretty sure it must be worse than SugarFree material.

[Bee Tagger]

"joining the group was not meant to be an endorsement of the president or his agenda but unfortunately it has been misinterpreted to be exactly that."

Careful, you're going to make the left sound like that guy who said you're either with us or against us.

[Tyler.C Sloopy's mom matters]

They already have said that

[Bee Tagger]

But I bet they don't pronounce it newkular

[juris imprudent]

They already have said that

Without a hint of irony. If their skulls refuse to explode from the cognitive dissonance - we should be allowed to assist nature

[11H1P, Professional Beach Bum]

Anakin Skywalker to Obi Wan???

[Swiss Servator]

*applause*

[11H1P, Professional Beach Bum]

That whole scene seems to be prophesy from Lucas, esp. if you take the Oath as first and foremost to the Constitution...

[Fist of Etiquette]

Kalanick told Uber employees Thursday that "joining the group was not meant to be an endorsement of the president or his agenda but unfortunately it has been misinterpreted to be exactly that."

The only way to engage Donald Trump in dialogue is broken windows and a dumpster fire. Duh.

[Fire Dalmia (DoM5k)]

Anything short of that will be interpreted as a vigorous endorsement.

[prolefeed]

Apparently leftists will boycott a business if their CEO tries to give economic lessons masquerading as advice, to a president who is functionally illiterate about economics and who is threatening to start a disastrous trade war -- and if said trade war happens, will blame it on their political opponents who didn't do the boycott.

[Kongming]

My Aunt recently self-published a short novel via Amazon. Today she posted on facebook and asked people NOT to buy it because Amazon still stocks Trump products. I mean...I mean....

[VG Zaytsev]

Have the Cosmo's deigned to write a post about the beat down Sloopy's mom took from some local cops yet?

[tarran]

No. And it's not happening according to an email from KMW to Sloopy because "it's not right for Reason".

Count me among the people bailing. Because I want to read a news magazine that it *is* right for.

[Swiss Servator]

You too, tarran? Tonio is looking at a place for us to go to that might be, you know, libertarian. Others are working on another one too.

[tarran]

I look forward to seeing it. I really don't like the idea of losing touch with some of you guys.

But I think Reason and I are through. I've been getting better writing from FEE for a long time anyway.

[BigW]

Yeah, at least FEE's attacks on Trump are reasoned (heh) arguments, not regurgitating left wing bile....

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

FEE?

[Free Society]

There's still Mises.org, but the comment section isn't as good since it's Discus based.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Kinsella single-handedly wrecked the mises.org forum. It's an echo chamber mostly. And considering the old Christian fuddy-daddies associated with that organization, I seriously doubt they would tolerate the sort of crass humor that is required to maintain sanity in this unfree world.

[Not a True MJG]

That's unfortunate, CMW. For an insular institution, the Mises forum was quite diverse and interesting for several years. You could get into actual debates that weren't just Rothbardian or Hoppean circle-jerks.

[Groovus Maximus]

I'm done too, tarran.

For all the Reasonoids seeking second opinions, and the three I've treated in meatspace, I thank you for the privilege of doing so. If I am needed, don't hesitate to email me.

Paraphrased from my favourite movie and a shout out to a Reasonoid of old, Hercules Triathlon Savinien:

Final report of the commercial starship Nostromo erstwhile Reason, Dr. Groovus Maximus reporting. The other members of the crew Commetariat , RC Dean, Banjos, Sloopy, Lord Humungus, Riven, Hamster of Doom, Los Doyers, and tarran, are gone. Blog and threads destroyed. I should reach the United States in May to meet with the board, provided the Russians don't invade Odessa and otherwise stay in the Eastern Donets'k Oblast'. With a little luck, Dr. ZG will love the USA so much we will apply for her to have medical residency and maybe practice medicine in the USA with her husband. This is Dr. Groovus Maximus DO, last survivor of the Nostromo The Commentariat, signing off.

Come on, cat. And take care P Brooks.

**END OF TRANSMISSION**

[Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?]

You will all be missed. Try to keep in touch. Whoever gets a site set up, post the link or details please.

[Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?]

The Borscht was delicious by the way! Thanks Groovus. Hopefully I will not lose contact with you and all the other great people on here.

[Cdr Lytton]

Dr G and family are moving back to USA?!?!

Safe journeys, Doc. At least we don't have to worry about you like last time.

[Groovus Maximus]

Just visiting. I have to appear before the medical board, and Mama Maximus can finally meet her grandchildren in person instead of on Skype, before she passes on (her health is declining).

It's just for a couple of weeks and a family vacay to boot. I hope to meet Reasonoids in TX, AZ, and CA. Maybe MA, but not likely.

[Free Society]

*solemn bagpipes play*

[(((Renegade)))dicksoutforkaren]

Groovus, we'll be in touch. New setup will be running in the next week or so.

[Mollie the mare]

Long-time lurker, first-time commenter here.

Sorry to see so many of the commentariat leaving, although I can't say I blame them. For the past year, they've been the only thing keeping me coming back. I was another one of those people who thought reducing my annual contribution might make the powers that be reconsider their pants shitting. I know they are beholden to the primary patrons of the Reason Foundation, but they should know they aren't winning any hearts and minds by becoming "Vox light: now with Disqus!"

If Tonio or the others do get another place going please do link it publicly. The SugarFree stories alone are too valuable to be limited to private eyes only.

[VG Zaytsev]

Sounds like an admission that they on,y care about police abuse stories to the extent that they benefit Thr Narrative.

The proggy narrative, of course.

[VG Zaytsev]

He probably she have told them that she was beaten for stopping the game to protest Trumps racist Muslim ban.

They would've been all over a story like that.

[Rufus The Monocled]

The way you guys are talking all that's gonna be left are....Canadians.

[Florida Hipster]

At least it will be a polite board.

[rts]

Fuck you.

[Swiss Servator]

Can we take you , and maybe a couple others, to be our token Maple Leaf People?

[Rufus The Monocled]

Sure.

Why not?

/pulls down pants.

[Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?]

Ha ha *Nelson from Simpsons

[Mr. Flanders]

Who the fuck is Sloopy and his mom? Why should I give a shit about this?

[Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?]

Stupid Flanders. /truer words were never spoken by Homer

[Free Society]

A long time commentarian's mom who got a public beatdown from a cop for trying to give emergency medical care at a high school basketball game. It's the kind of thing Reason would have covered in the past, before they came to the conclusion that the only newsworthy police brutality stories worth their time are ones that further the Black Lives Matter program.

[Basketball Uber Alles, Jr.]

the only newsworthy police brutality stories worth their time are ones that further the Black Lives Matter program.

Which is why Robby Soave continues to cite Shaun King. /headdesk

[Mr. Flanders]

Whoa, what the fuck, Reason?

[Free Society]

Fuck. The commentariat is dropping like flies and the real shame is they're probably right to do so. There is to be sure a growing consensus among the long time readership that Reason has lost it's way, to say the least.

[Fist of Etiquette]

U.S. Senators voted 52-48 Friday morning to cut off debate about whether Betsy DeVos should be confirmed as the next education secretary, clearing the way for a final confirmation vote next week.

Seems like a party line vote, but wait!

[Konima]

Claiming that there was a Bowling Green massacre is pretty hilarious. When it comes to PR, the biggest difference between the Trump and Obama admins is that the Obama admin seemed to at least attempt to make their lies believable. I think the lesson that Trump and co took away from getting elected was that you don't have to put much effort into lying. The people who are fall for the lies are going to fall for them regardless of whether they're well thought out or not.

[Konima]

Ooops, wrong place.

[Fire Dalmia (DoM5k)]

Nah, Barry's lies were just as transparent. It's just that the media took any and all proclamations from him as the word of God.

[Konima]

I dunno. Talking about a fake massacre is a high bar. If the Obama admin said something as silly, I'd like to know about it because it would be pretty hilarious and I like funny things.

[Crusty Juggler - #2]

Oh no, that's not allowed anymore.

[BigW]

Ummm. "We've discovered the attack was the result of a YouTube video...."

[Konima]

But the YouTube video existed, right? At least that becomes a he said, she said type of deal. That was also said as events were unfolding, so it's a smart move to deploy a lie during that time period. That's still not as impressive as making something up that happened months to years ago.

[Fire Dalmia (DoM5k)]

Kinetic Military Action in Libya?

[Konima]

"Kinetic Military Action in Libya?"

See, that's absurd too, but at least it's clever. That was my only point.

[Swiss Servator]

Clever? No, laughable.

[Chip Woodier]

Visited all 57 fake massacres...

[Fatty Bolger]

"If you like the plan you have, you can keep it. If you like the doctor you have, you can keep your doctor, too."

[Bee Tagger]

U.S. Senators voted 52-48 Friday morning to cut off debate about whether Betsy DeVos should be confirmed as the next education secretary, clearing the way for a final confirmation vote next week.

Imagine how wrapped up in politics people would be if it was actually exciting in even the smallest of ways.

[UnCivilServant]

Politics isn't supposed to be exciting. Politicians are supposed to be so restrained that nothing within their purview can cause agitation.

The higher the stakes and the more rushed the judgement, the worse things are.

[Swiss Servator]

They will have to confirm her to find out what is in her.

[prolefeed]

Water adulterated with carbon compounds.

[prolefeed]

Politicians and bureaucrats deliberately make the nasty stuff they do so boring that sane people generally tune out and don't hold the government responsible -- aka the "OMG I'd rather claw my eyes out with a rusty butter knife than listen to a committee hearing" theory of enabling government malfeasance.

[Fist of Etiquette]

A man with a machete was shot by a French soldier as he attempted to enter the Louvre in Paris...

I guess he didn't like the art.

[Rich]

Serious question: Does sharia law require these clowns to yell "ALLAHU AKBAR!" during their attacks?

[UnCivilServant]

If they don't how are you going to know they're killing you in the name of Allah?

[Draco]

Especially when liberaltardians will claim that they are *not* killing in the name of you-know-who.

[Princess Trigger]

Not quite "required" - but it is the preferred nomenclature.

[Rich]

"INFIDELS SUCK!"

[Slammer]

Another Lone Wolf leaves the Pack

[Juvenile Bluster]

Why does Trump keep Kellyanne Conway around? She's dumb as dirt and ugly as sin.

[Fire Shikha]

Because she's actually quite smart, unless you think winning the last election was not an upset.

[Konima]

I think that almost every other Republican candidate would have won by a large margin. I think the Democrats would have won by a large margin if they nominated someone else as well. Trump fell into the perfect storm. Sad!

[Konima]

Larger*

[prolefeed]

I don't think that's necessarily the case. Trump won the critical Rust Belt states by pandering to economic illiteracy and promising to start a trade war. The other R candidates mostly seemed too sensible to steal that from the D playbook. Dunno what states they could have picked up in place of PA, MI, and WI.

[Konima]

You underestimate how many people were "choosing the lesser of two evils." A lot of people really, really disliked Hillary. A lot of people really, really disliked Trump. It's just that more people disliked Clinton, at least in the states that mattered.

[Tyler.C Sloopy's mom matters]

Yeah you can't just bullshit your way around, even if it worked for other people...

[SIV]

She helped him get this job one time.

[lafe.long]

Why does Trump keep Kellyanne Conway around? She's dumb as dirt and ugly as sin.

Perhaps he's a Denis Leary fan?

Denis Leary acknowledges he looks exactly like Kellyanne Conway, eyes Oscar-winning role

The comparison between The Amazing Spider-Man actor and the Counselor to the President was made on Twitter this week, attracting a ton of retweets.

Leary himself ended up jumping in, writing: "And I better win a fucking Oscar for this role".

[Idle Hands]

Well he would because that type of performance would be both stunning and brave. It would also show that manwoman definitely can be funny America, get over it.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Imagine if a celebrity made a joke about Michelle.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Bill Burr did.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

Peter Mayhew acknowledges he looks exactly like Michelle Obama, eyes Oscar-winning role?

Michael Dorn acknowledges he looks exactly like Michelle Obama, eyes Oscar-winning role?

[Cdr Lytton]

To the Academy, let the wookie win.

[Certified Public Asshat]

A grown man wrote this:

The Darkest Super Bowl

It starts with a story about him going to church because he feels bad about Trump, but then he snaps at his daughter and cries outside of church because Trump.

Continuing:

Things are NOT going smoothly right now. Right now everything is deeply fucked, and to willfully ignore it is either impossible or irresponsible. The last thing I need is the NFL trotting out a showy display of allegiance both to the flag and to its own, relentless tunnel vision. The whole thing feels tone deaf at best and passive-aggressive at worst ? a tacit demand that you sit there and adore all this pageantry, or else.

Again, I'm sorry about all this. The last thing I want is to sit here like some goth nihilist dipshit and lecture everyone, and douse a seemingly festive occasion in cold piss. I wanna snap out of it. I want EVERYONE to snap out of it. I want America to wake up in a fevered sweat and realize what it's done and rush to un-fuck everything before it's too late, if it isn't already.

[Rufus The Monocled]

/pops popcorn in mouth. Blinks.

So. Patriots or Falcons?

[UnCivilServant]

Who or who?

[Certified Public Asshat]

I'll cheer for Falcons, but assume Patriots.

[american socialist]

Wtf happened to deadspin

[Certified Public Asshat]

I used to like going to Gizmodo, Lifehacker (hey, every now and then something interesting would be there), Jalopnik...

but holy shit. Ever since Gawker went down it has spread to all of the other sites.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Progressivism, I'm telling you, is a virus; a plague.

[Chip Woodier]

They are like zombies. Hey! How come they never used wood chippers on The Walking Dead?

[Juvenile Bluster]

Lemme guess. Magary?

::clicks::

Yep. I miss when he wrote on Kissing Suzy Kolber and was actually a sane, non-asshole human being.

[Certified Public Asshat]

Me too 🙁

[Chipwooder]

He was funny then. The shtick went stale over time, he started letting the proggie flag fly more and more, and I completely lost interest in reading him anymore.

[Certified Public Asshat]

If you want to see how really derpy he has become, read one of his GQ articles.

[Red Rocks Dickin Bimbos]

His whole screed is shitthatdidnthappen.txt, especially the part where he and his daughter supposedly broke down crying outside the church and tried to buck each other up.

The worst part is that he doesn't SHUT THE FUCK UP and proceeds to fill bandwidth with a bunch of completely random shit.

It's like I said in the NYU professor thread, Trump's presidency has resulted in the activist left having a total psychotic break.

[Raven Nation]

I was at a social gathering yesterday and asked one of my friends about her family. She said her husband was not doing that well. A little worried, I asked her what was wrong and, as I should have guessed, it's because of Trump.

[BigW]

You should have said. "I really hope your husband recovers from his pajamaboyitis..."

[Chipwooder]

Should have said that Massengill should get the sand out of his vagina

[Rufus The Monocled]

I have (had?) a prog American friend who lost his shit with Trump. You know, 'what am I gonna tell my girls' stupidity. I basically told him to fuck off and be a man. It's been quite frosty ever since.

But know what? I don't give a shit. It's not normal to be like that. It's hyper faux-righteous, irrational partisan drivel.

[prolefeed]

I endured a lot of that stuff with my lefty GF, until we struck a deal to not discuss politics at all, and then her psychologist told her to chill out and quit listening to or thinking about politics because it was making her incredibly anxious.

[Raven Nation]

I had a brief disagreement with her about some of the facts, but then I pointed out to her that she has a job she likes, a husband who loves her, a 2yo daughter she adores. Why not focus on that and enjoy life? She thought that was a pretty good point.

[Rich]

I want America to wake up in a fevered sweat and realize what it's done and rush to un-fuck everything before it's too late

(Sung to the tune of "I Want To Buy The World A Coke")

[prolefeed]

By what? Having progs buy the guns they profess to hate and then assassinating Trump, Pence, and everyone else in the line of presidential succession until they get to a Democrat?

[John Titor]

I can see the Hollywood movie already. Shot of some man on his knees, distraught, outside a church as it rains and sad violin music plays in the background. Cue title card: "DARKEST DAYS."

[Slammer]

goth nihilist dipshit

Good band name

[Swiss Servator]

The last thing I want is to sit here like some goth nihilist dipshit and lecture everyone, and douse a seemingly festive occasion in cold piss.

No, sir, that is EXACTLY what you want.

[prolefeed]

Yeah, but progs don't understand economics, so they don't understand their revealed preference.

[BigW]

"The last thing I want is to sit here like some goth nihilist dipshit and lecture everyone"

BULLSHIT. If that were true his post wouldn't exist.

For evidence see all the posts I haven't put on Facebook defending Trump....

[Crusty Juggler - #2]

What Is the Democratic Party?

The popular progressive understanding of the Republican party and conservative movement is something like this: It is, at heart, a conspiracy of corporate oligarchs who use a collection of so-called social issues ? religion, bigotry, racial resentment, anti-immigrant sentiment ? to stir up the rubes in support of its own parochial economic agenda, tricking them into "voting against their own interests" in the popular progressive phrase. Wall Street guys pulling the strings and writing the checks, foot-washing snake-handlers manning the barricades. This isn't really true, of course, as anybody who ever has spent any time around actual Republican politicians or conservative activists knows. But might something similar actually be true of the Democratic party?

[Rufus The Monocled]

Oooo. Forbidden.

[Crusty Juggler - #2]

A working link.

[american socialist]

That is the democratic party. It is all projection

[Idle Hands]

That Williamson article was good it's a shame you didn't link it.

[Bee Tagger]

It was not covered, however, because it is not a thing that actually happened.

Quit trying to cover for your lack of coverage

[Bee Tagger]

Is it true that Sidd Finch was one the perpetrators?

[Juvenile Bluster]

He killed multiple people with a single 150 mph fastball.

[Swiss Servator]

He threw a pitch right through a catcher!

[Fist of Etiquette]

Yes, how do we know it didn't happen if there was no press coverage of it?

[Fire Shikha]

It did happen. There actually were people who were arrested there for planning a terrorist attack.

http://www.wave3.com/story/147.....n-kentucky

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/.....d=20931131

And as a result of this, President Obama suspended Iraqi refugee resettlement. No one wants to discuss this, because it ruins their current pant shitting narrative.

This is getting disturbingly stupid. We get it, you don't like Trump, but pretend, at least pretend, to not just be Leftist shills. Maybe discuss what happened there.

[Juvenile Bluster]

Give me a fucking break. There was no "Bowling Green Massacre". If she'd talked about refugees being arrested in Bowling Green that had carried out an attack in Iraq, fine. But that's not what she fucking said.

For all the TDS, the anti-TDS is getting deranged too.

[Tyler.C Sloopy's mom matters]

Yeah you can't call something a massacre of no one died

[Rufus The Monocled]

Why not? Rape is not rape-rape anymore. It's all moving of goal posts and sloppy sophistry now.

Your version of the facts are not mine and it's a micro aggression to suggest otherwise.

Now. Where were we?

Right. JERK STORE.

[Carl_b]

Alternative Timeline Facts!

Just because it occurred in some parallel timeline and not the one we observed doesn't mean that it didn't happen!

[Tyler.C Sloopy's mom matters]

Well I don't want to be called a science dernier... So I guess you are right.

[MikeT1986]

It's TDS all the way down, just pro or anti.

[Elizabeth Nolan Brown]

What happened there was the FBI set up two people who thought they were sending weapons back to Iraqi militants

[Tyler.C Sloopy's mom matters]

FBI foils FBI terror plot

[Swiss Servator]

*opera applause*

Do they get double credit?

[Bee Tagger]

Disguised as a shipment of makeup maybe? The Bowling Green Mascara is what she said.

[Swiss Servator]

You might be getting one of the last of these, Bee.

*narrows gaze*

[Tyler.C Sloopy's mom matters]

Don't leave Swiss!!!

[Fire Shikha]

I wasn't aware of that. That would be a good article, because a lot of reporters have referenced the incident

[Crusty Juggler - #2]

I wasn't aware of that.

No shit!

[Fire Shikha]

"An intelligence tip initially led the FBI to Waad Ramadan Alwan, 32, in 2009. The Iraqi had claimed to be a refugee who faced persecution back home -- a story that shattered when the FBI found his fingerprints on a cordless phone base that U.S. soldiers dug up in a gravel pile south of Bayji, Iraq on Sept. 1, 2005. The phone base had been wired to unexploded bombs buried in a nearby road."

From the ABC story.

Did this FBI fabricate this part of the story too? I wouldn't put it past them, but the story doesn't discuss a weapons sale back to Iraq

[Bee Tagger]

This is one of the very few times I'm willing to consider this to be Trump & associates playing the media. It has certainly worked to get the details of the actual story discussed as people rush to correct Conway.

[american socialist]

Yep i do wonder if this or just dumb luck

[Crusty Juggler - #2]

White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer told a press briefing Thursday that Trump was putting Iran "on notice" because Iran had attacked a U.S. naval ship; in actuality, suspected Houthi rebels in Yemen (a group loosely linked to the Iranian government, but definitely distinct from it) attacked a Saudi naval vessel.

The White House press corps wanted to know what being put "on notice" entailed, and Spicer responded by claiming that Iran's government took actions against a U.S. naval vessel, which would be an act of war. "I think General Flynn was really clear yesterday that Iran has violated the Joint Resolution, that Iran's additional hostile actions that it took against our Navy vessel are ones that we are very clear are not going to sit by and take," he said. "I think that we will have further updates for you on those additional actions."

Major Garrett of CBS News quietly corrected him, saying "a Saudi vessel," and Spicer then responded almost inaudibly: "Sorry, thank you, yes a Saudi vessel. Yes, that's right." He did not in any way address his false claim that it was an Iranian attack, however.

They all look the same.

[Swiss Servator]

Iranian proxies.

[Gadfly]

^This. It's funny we don't see the same level of parsing loyalties when the media is discussing the Russian proxies in Ukraine. Russia isn't at war with Ukraine, but we denounce them anyway because their proxies are. The same approach is fair for Iranian proxies across the middle east.

[BigW]

Well, I'm gonna count the people taking Iranian money to attack other people as Iranian subcontractors and assume their operating in Iran's best interests.

So you can take your fine grained equivocation and pound sand.

[Crusty Juggler - #2]

Did you just put me on notice?

[Citizen X - #6]

Finally!

[Rich]

People who dress up as animals are adopting Nazi-style iconography and calling themselves "alt-furry". What's behind it?

An attempt to make click-revenue?

[Tyler.C Sloopy's mom matters]

What!?? Your saying they're using our outrage to generate revenue! Why I'm going to leave them a nasty comment.

[Juvenile Bluster]

Yale keeping its "preferred first name" policy, despite misuse. Somehow the school seems shocked that students are treating it as a joke.

The new policy ? which was announced in a Jan. 17 email to the Yale community and met with widespread approval from the student body ? allows students to alter their first names on email addresses, student identification cards, online directories and other official Yale documents by completing a short form on the Student Information Systems website. Students can complete a name change regardless of whether they have legally changed their name.

Following the implementation of the policy, Yale College Dean Jonathan Holloway told the News that he was aware of instances in which the policy was misused, adding that administrators were "surprised" by some of the name-change choices people were making.

One student, Karl Notturno '17 changed his preferred first name to "God Emperor," attracting criticism on the Facebook group "Overhead at Yale." Several students viewed his actions as mocking a policy widely regarded as a step toward greater gender inclusivity on campus.

"We expected better from Yale students," Holloway said. "We expected more maturity."

[UnCivilServant]

"We expected better from Yale students," Holloway said. "We expected more maturity."

After not expelling miss "It's not about learning it's about creating a HOME here!"?

[Crusty Juggler - #2]

"We expected better from Yale students," Holloway said. "We expected more maturity."

Ha.

[prolefeed]

His student body is composed almost entirely of people who couldn't get into Harvard, so he might want to tone down his expectations a tad.

[SimonD]

I don't know. Merciless mocking seems to be the most rational response I can make for Yale's constant fuckery.

I thought Ivy Leaguers were supposed to be smart. At least, that's what they told me when they were sending me letters in my old HS days.

[Shirley Knott]

Good lord. Who expects maturity from college students?
It's not that it can't happen, it's not that it doesn't happen. But it sure as hell is not common. It never has been.
Have we forgotten the 50s? The 60s? etc?

And this twit *works* with college students.
The stupid, it burns.

[Chipwooder]

Create a stupid policy, get stupid responses. I'm just a dumb nobody who didn't go to Yale, but I have a basic grasp of fundamental human nature.

[Rufus The Monocled]

"We expected better from Yale students," Holloway said. "We expected more maturity."

I woulda gone with 'Wormer's dick' FWIW.

Nothing like an immature 40-something year-old.

[thrakkorzog]

I'm going to blame the foreign grad students. Some students don't have names that are on the list of approved American fake names, and that just throws them off.

[Bee Tagger]

"The truth about Nazi Furries."

Every [adjective] [noun] exists on the internet.

[prolefeed]

Caption contest: "You're not especially attractive as a woman, but you'd make an almost passable tranny."

[Crusty Juggler - #2]

Donald J. Trump Verified account
?@realDonaldTrump

Yes, Arnold Schwarzenegger did a really bad job as Governor of California and even worse on the Apprentice...but at least he tried hard!

3:24 AM - 3 Feb 2017

[Juvenile Bluster]

I'm becoming more and more convinced that this is staged.

[That's A Bingo!]

Isn't he suppose to be tweeting on the @POTUS account?

[Citizen X - #6]

His press team won't let him have the password to that one.

[Bacon-Magic et tu Reason?]

It's "Pas$word"

[John Titor]

Losers always whine about how they tried. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen.

[ant1sthenes]

Uh oh, this is going to end in a fight on WWE, isn't it?

[Crusty Juggler - #2]

Donald J. Trump Verified account
?@realDonaldTrump

Iran is playing with fire - they don't appreciate how "kind" President Obama was to them. Not me!

3:28 AM - 3 Feb 2017

[Konima]

Claiming that there was a Bowling Green massacre is pretty hilarious. When it comes to PR, the biggest difference between the Trump and Obama admins is that the Obama admin seemed to at least attempt to make their lies believable. I think the lesson that Trump and co took away from getting elected was that you don't have to put much effort into lying. The people who are fall for the lies are going to fall for them regardless of whether they're well thought out or not.

[Chip Woodier]

What I find hilarious is a new account popping up and making several posts on the same subject.
But that's just me. I have a good sense of humor.

[Konima]

What subject might that be? Trump? I can't imagine why someone would post something about Trump.

[The Late P Brooks]

A man with a machete was shot by a French soldier as he attempted to enter the Louvre in Paris, in what police head Michel Cadot called "an attack by a person ... who represented a direct threat and whose actions suggested a terrorist context."

Haven't we all wanted to take a machete to an art museum at some point?

[DJF]

From some of the art I have seen in modern museums it appears that the artist have already done it.

So expect an update on the story saying that some world famous artist I have never heard of has been shot.

[UnCivilServant]

Haven't we all wanted to take a machete to an art museum at some point?

A day with Danny Trejo?

[juris imprudent]

Danny Trejo Night at the Museum!

[Florida Hipster]

Weird fact: the only man that intimidated Danny Trejo is John Cusack.

[Citizen X - #6]

Other weird fact: Machete takes place in the same universe as the Spy Kids franchise. The kids refer to Danny Trejo's character as "Uncle Machete."

[The Last American Hero]

He was sexually confused and decided to engage in workplace violence.

[DJF]

""""""The Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment (CDPHE) finds that teen cannabis consumption "has not changed since legalization either in terms of the number of people using or the frequency of use among users."""

So its a failure.

[Slammer]

'Can she eat more kale?' Hordes of liberals want reassurance RBG's health is good

"I'm very interested in this." says Jeanette Bavwidinski, a community organizer in Pennsylvania. "I'm interested in what her daily regimen is. Like, what are you all feeding RBG? Is she getting enough fresh air? Is she walking? Is she staying low-stress? What is she reading? Is she reading low-stress things?"

"Can she eat more kale?" asks Kim Landsbergen, a forest ecologist in Ohio. "Eat more kale, that's all I can say. We love you. Eat more kale.

"I kept thinking, you know, I could organize a bunch of gays," says John Hagner, a consultant for Democratic campaigns who lives in Washington. "I could organize the gays, and we would just make a protective circle around her at all times. We could help her get up and down the stairs. We got this.""Can she eat more kale?" asks Kim Landsbergen, a forest ecologist in Ohio. "Eat more kale, that's all I can say. We love you. Eat more kale.

[Rich]

"RBG"? Oh, Ruth Bader Ginsburg! I thought she goes by "RuGi".

[Swiss Servator]

Oh?

[Slammer]

*squints at swiss*

[Idle Hands]

As much as I dislike most of RBG decisions, the level of partisanship that the some on the left in an attempt to push her to retire during Obama's presidency kind of made me feel for her a little bit. I also think may have pushed her to stay.

[John Titor]

Get ready for the 'Ginsburg was poisoned' conspiracy theories to start if she dies during the Trump Presidency.

[Tyler.C Sloopy's mom matters]

But it was true for scalia!

[Chip Woodier]

Only at a remote hunting lodge with a pillow over her face. (with Col. Mustard)

[Juvenile Bluster]

Eat more kale, that's all I can say. We love you. Eat more kale.

Wait, are you really a "forest ecologist" or actually a kale salesperson?

[UnCivilServant]

Kale subsidy lobbyist

[Trolleric the Goth]

nothing so gauche! she's a kale "evangelist"

[Citizen X - #6]

Does kale grow in forests? I don't know much about kale.

[Florida Hipster]

The only thing that's grows in this forest, is the suspicion Steve Smith is stalking you..

[Citizen X - #6]

STEVE SMITH HAVE SOMETHING THAT GROWS, TOO, BUT IT NOT GOOD FOR ANYONE'S HEALTH.

[Chip Woodier]

I was wondering if Rape Kale was really a thing...
Now I know.

[Mickey Rat]

Do they want Ginsburg to be healthier or to give up on life? Eating more kale could be taken either way.

[Fire Dalmia (DoM5k)]

?"The truth about Nazi Furries."

This was discussed in the comment of the PM Linx, ENB. I'm a little hurt that you don't studiously follow our conversations.

[That's A Bingo!]

A man with a machete was shot by a French soldier as he attempted to enter the Louvre in Paris, in what police head Michel Cadot called "an attack by a person ... who represented a direct threat and whose actions suggested a terrorist context."

Performance art.

[The Late P Brooks]

Uber CEO Travis Kalanick has quit Donald Trump's economic council, according to the Associated Press. Kalanick told Uber employees Thursday that "joining the group was not meant to be an endorsement of the president or his agenda but unfortunately it has been misinterpreted to be exactly that."

Can't handle those evenings all alone at home, I guess.

[DJF]

So the left has created the situation that because Trump is so evil nobody with different opinions is allowed to advise him and try to change his policies

Another lose for the non crazy left. The crazies have won again

[lafe.long]

Bearded Man Tosses Explosive Into Crowded Pasadena Restauarnt

Diners at the Cheesecake Factory in Pasadena were given a scare when a man tossed a homemade explosive inside the restaurant and fled the scene.

The small explosion sent patrons running for cover, but no one was hurt according to Pasadena police. Police evacuated the restaurant and are searching for the bearded suspect who remains at large.

[Tyler.C Sloopy's mom matters]

But the cake!!!!

[UnCivilServant]

Here, I'll bake another one.

[The Last American Hero]

Odds are it's just more workplace violence from a sexually confused man.

[lafe.long]

Howard Stern says presidency will be 'detrimental' to Trump's mental health

During Wednesday's episode of his eponymous radio show, Stern said he doesn't think running the country is "going to be a healthy experience" for Trump, whom he considers a longtime friend even though their political beliefs are very different.

"I personally wish that he had never run," Stern said. "I told him that because I actually think this is something that is going to be detrimental to his mental health too, because he wants to be liked, he wants to be loved. He wants people to cheer for him."

[Fire Shikha]

"he wants to be loved. He wants people to cheer for him."

Then he should have run as a Democrat. His policies line up with them pretty nicely, as much as they don't want to admit that

[Konima]

"...because he wants to be liked, he wants to be loved. He wants people to cheer for him."
Exactly what I've said in the past. A bit of confirmation bias perhaps. I must be a terrible armchair psychologist.

[John Titor]

Tell us again how Trump's tan and hair is obvious evidence of his narcissism, and not reflective at all of your own bias.

[Konima]

No, it's more reflective of the other mental issues that he has which accompany his narcissism. You didn't learn anything. Sad!

[John Titor]

"If I keep screaming that his appearance is reflective of mental issues it's true."

-Said no one who has ever worked in a mental health faculty, ever.

[Konima]

LOL. Appearance can't be indicative of mental health issues? Have you never heard of body image issues? Are you unaware of how prevalent such issues are in human beings? Jesus dude. Very science. Very smarts! You're either a part of Trump's PR team, or simply deficient mentally.

[John Titor]

Sorry, "LOL LOOK AT HIS HAIR AND TAN" is not accepted as an diagnostic technique. If you like I can actually discuss this issue with actual professionals and provide you feedback on why you're full of it. Your obsession with turning his appearance into an indicator of mental health issues says more about you than him.

You're either a part of Trump's PR team, or simply deficient mentally.

Yes yes, childish strawman about how you're either stupid or a Trump supporter if I don't accept your idiotic argumentation. You've done this enough times, guess what, it's just reflective of your inability to actually make a coherent point. You make an idiotic argument, then scream that if people don't accept it unquestioningly they're "THE OTHER" or stupid.

[Konima]

Wow, 10 seconds of Google and voila:

http://www.webmd.com/beauty/ne.....l-disorder

http://www.adaa.org/understanding-anx.....sorder-bdd

I don't need you to personally talk to your shitty Canadian psychologists, friend. We have a wealth of more accurate information at our fingertips, and it's only seconds away if you're interested.

Maybe this is a matter of life experience. I've been exposed to people who deal with issues, such as body dysmorphia, and have had conversations with them regarding it.

Now you've moved the goalposts. I'm supposed to employ diagnostic techniques? It sounds as if you can only be swayed by me hiring a psychologist to go and diagnose him in person.

[John Titor]

Nativist condescension, the quality of your statements continue. The fact that you think unsourced, not peer reviewed WebMD articles are 'more accurate' than licensed professionals (who are *gasp* dirty foreigners) says a lot.

I'm actually saying do this amazing thing called "make an actually good argument". Your entire argument is based on a shallow, lazy analysis of his appearance, where you openly admit an emotional bias. And then you demand that everyone accept it or they're all stupid or Trump supporters. That's a bad and unconvincing argument, and could easily be improved, but you insist that it's the only one you're going to make.

[Konima]

This is no longer challenging. You don't know what you're talking about, but you're too dim to realize it. This phenomena is known as the Dunning-Kruger effect. You would think that, being the one frothing at the mouth for sources, you would be volunteering your own. No, you think the solution is do go down the road and speak to a licensed professional whose opinion you think the authoritative one for some arbitrary reason.

I openly admit an emotion bias where exactly?

People who stick their necks out for Trump to the extent that you do are generally sycophants of one shade or another. I can't even imagine what it must feel like to be compelled to expend as much energy as you are defending a politician as you are. I admit,your form of mental illness is one that I have little knowledge of.

Also, your masked slipped without you realizing it. You trust a "licensed professional" over the bevvy of knowledge available to you. You're no libertarian.

[kbolino]

Alright, so it's pretty obvious at this point that Konima is Bo. Or at least a reasonable enough facsimile as to be dismissed for the same reasons. The arguments are tedious, the sense of self-importance is high, and the projection is off the charts. I wonder how long it will take before he just starts playing "I know you are but what I am" like last time.

[Konima]

Ignore the arguments, that you're either unable to comprehend, or unable to retort, and pretend I'm someone else. I'll give John Titor credit for at least being multitudes more intellectually capable than yourself.

"Oh no, Konima doesn't like my dear leader, Donald Trump. He must be someone whose opinion doesn't count!"

I wonder how long before you go back to the comment sections of Fox News.

[kbolino]

Project some more, why don't you? I already argued with you in one thread. You are a bore and a sophist who's not much worth engaging. Maybe if you were half as smart as you think you are you would offer up something of substance.

[kbolino]

I wonder how long before you go back to the comment sections of Fox News.

Oh, sick burn. Let me know when you find one of my comments on Fox News. Oh, right, there aren't any. But hey, you can divine a man's mind from his haircut, so I'm sure you can sniff out people who comment on Fox News. Tell me, are you a licensed haruspex? What do the stars foretell of my future, oh wise astrologist?

[Konima]

Boring! Sad!

[kbolino]

Boring! Sad!

Original! Intelligent!

[John Titor]

The Presidency should come with a label that says 'warning: may cut your lifespan short by a decade. Or more, depending on if you go to Buffalo.'

[Tyler.C Sloopy's mom matters]

Or Dallas

[prolefeed]

For our earliest presidents, the longevity effect was especially pronounced. The first eight leaders of the U.S. lived on average 79.8 years, yet life expectancy at birth for men in the 18th and early 19th centuries was under 40. Some presidents survived an exceptionally long time: Gerald Ford died at 93.5 years, Ronald Reagan at 93.3, John Adams at 90.7, and Herbert Hoover at 90.2. All currently living presidents have already exceeded their life expectancy, or are likely to do so.

If it wasn't for that "pissing off crazy people enough that they want to kill you" thing, being president is actually quite good for your health. Best health care ever. They ain't being shoved into the Obamacare or VA plans that the peons get.

[Tyler.C Sloopy's mom matters]

Those are using wrong life expectancy stats. It was so low due to infant mortality. Life expectancy given that you made it past infancy (a pre req for being president) was much much higher

[Gadfly]

True, and while I don't have the exact stats I know that life expectancy at the age of majority before the advance of 20th century medicine was generally somewhere in the 60s, so the Presidents still did outperform expectations (of course, for a true comparison you would have to compare life expectancies of the rich, not the average person, but I don't think they have those stats).

[lafe.long]

Restaurant manager charged after bullied teen's suicide

Much of the witness testimony focused on Suttner's manager, 21-year-old Harley Branham. Former coworkers said that she had repeatedly ridiculed Suttner on the job, making him clean the floor by hand while lying on his stomach, according to the Columbia Daily Tribune. Another coworker said Branham once threw a cheeseburger at Suttner after he made it incorrectly.

[Tyler.C Sloopy's mom matters]

While the bitch sounds like a horrible human being, this also seems like a bad precident on the face of it.

[Basketball Uber Alles, Jr.]

Some guys pay good money for that kind of abuse, and this kid kills himself?

[Rufus The Monocled]

My first job was in construction....I was 14.....with old school Italian men....they were merciless.

And the man who hired me - my BIL's brother (a real pugilist) - was of no help.

Lesson #1. Life is hard.

[lafe.long]

Trump to take steps rolling back financial regulations

In two executive actions, Trump plans to direct his administration to evaluate regulatory action taken by his predecessor, Barack Obama, with an eye toward eliminating what his advisers say are burdensome rules on financial services firms and consumers.
He'll also force the delay of an Obama-era rule that required retirement advisers to act in their clients' best interests.

[BigW]

Remember when the Attorney General of New York used a law to punish Exxon no behalf of the customers?

Regulations like this are made to be abused.

The true libertarian stance is that people are smart enough to take their business to where they get a good return without the governments interference. And before you hem an haw about how that "just isn't so", think a bit about where the money to pay for filling out all the forms to comply with the regulations comes out of.....customer profits.

[american socialist]

I hope preet can take down that AG

[Crusty Juggler - #2]

Caption contest:

"Would you? Would you!"

[Kurmudgeonly Kristen]

This tickled me.

[Rich]

Indeed. FD's long gone.

[Stormy Dragon]

That was the joke. The tweet was mocking Trump's mentioning FD at the National Prayer Breakfast in a way suggesting Trump thinks FD is still alive.

[Butts Wagner]

And then this

[lafe.long]

Former Norway PM held at Washington airport over 2014 visit to Iran

Bondevik, who is the president the Oslo Centre, a human rights organisation, said he was placed in a room with travellers from the Middle East and Africa who were also facing extra scrutiny.

He said he was ordered to wait for 40 minutes, before being questioned for another 20 minutes about his trip to Iran, which he had taken to speak at a human rights conference.

"I was surprised, and I was provoked," he said. "What will the reputation of the US be if this happens not only to me, but also to other international leaders?"

[DJF]

So he was treated equally like other foreign visitors to the US and he complains about being put in a room with Middle Easterners and Africans

[UnCivilServant]

To be fair, the middle easterners and africans had the same complaint. Not about the Norwegian, but about being forced to be in a room with each other.

[Free Society]

Fuck this guy. I am an American bursting at the seems with my supposed white privilege and damn near every time I fly back to the states, I'm taken aside and searched because I have so many Amsterdam stamps in my passport.

[lafe.long]

Maryam Mirzakhani Is The First Woman To Win The 'Nobel Prize Of Math'

Being the first female to win this prestigious award, people are considering this the first sign of many changes for the future. According to the National Academy of Sciences, studies show no biological differences that would explain the low representation of women in STEM academic faculty and leadership roles.

[The Last American Hero]

What does the NAS say about the percentage of women that major in STEM fields? Fucking math, how does it work?

[lafe.long]

Federal utility TVA going to trial over pollution claims

In 2015, state environmental officials informed Albert Hudson, whose home is near the plant, that his well water met U.S. Environmental Protection Agency drinking water standards. But they also said the water showed levels of the harmful chemical hexavalent chromium ? typically resulting from an industrial process ? were slightly above EPA risk levels.

But Brooks said monitoring data show no impact on river water from plant operations.

Additionally, he said, the utility tested Hudson's well again and it met drinking water standards for Tennessee, save for unrelated fecal coliform. He also said there are other potential sources of the hexavalent chromium, including natural occurrences.

More shit from the Feds.

[Rich]

Then you might enjoy this:

Federal workers turn to encryption to thwart Trump

"I'm suddenly spending my days comparing the importance of the oath I took when I started my career service and the code that I have as an American," an EPA employee said.

"As opposed to, you know, doing my job."

[Fire Dalmia (DoM5k)]

the code that I have as an American

That's, um, not a thing. If you have issues with the administration, then quit your job.

[Fire Dalmia (DoM5k)]

Has Reason issued a retraction and apology for the false story about the dead Iraqi grandmother? I'd hate for them to get designated "fake news" and lose their good standing with Salon and the Daily Beast.

[Crusty Juggler - #2]

The story was updated.

[BigW]

So, Dems got pissed at Uber and the CEO capitulated. It won't be enough to satiate the demands of all the Progressives and Uber will suffer. Also, now Trump supporters, who were fine with Uber's actions see the Uber CEO as a spineless weasel, and may take their business elsewhere.

Ah, I love the smell of the politicization of everything in the morning, smells like manure.....

[Tyler.C Sloopy's mom matters]

I wish politics was more of a third rail for more businesses, caused then they would stay b out of it.

[Citizen X - #6]

Business should be a third rail for politics, so that businesses wouldn't have to get involved in politics out of self defense.

[Tyler.C Sloopy's mom matters]

Touche

[Trshmnstr needs a new can]

and may take their business elsewhere

Where else? Lyft is fully on the prog crazy train.

[Idle Hands]

I love these Google searches by state lists. I don't even care if they're fake.

[Citizen X - #6]

Martin Shkreli Dog Poop would be just an okay name for a band.

Connecticut: "What are refugees?"

[Crusty Juggler - #2]

Eleven people were arrested after protesters stormed a room on the New York University campus where conservative pundit and former Vice editor Gavin McInnnes was speaking.

Kudos to Gavin for trying to capitalize off the political atmosphere, but "Proud Boys" is gayer than gay man scissor-banging another man.

[Elizabeth Nolan Brown]

have you seen the logo? http://twitter.com/ENBrown/sta.....5398300672

[Crusty Juggler - #2]

Wow. That is very subtle. He is shameless, and apparently has a thirteen-year-old male artist on staff.

[Tyler.C Sloopy's mom matters]

Did I miss something? Did Trump make calling people gay great again?

[Crusty Juggler - #2]

I was great before Trump, and I will be great after Trump.

[Tyler.C Sloopy's mom matters]

OK.

[Fire Shikha]

"Eleven people were arrested after protesters stormed a room on the New York University campus where conservative pundit and former Vice editor Gavin McInnnes was speaking."

Matt Welch was on his show not too long ago. I never listen to McInnes' podcast, but I saw Welch was on there so I listened. Good episode.

What if these little fascists now storm Reason's headquarters (you guys are 'climate deniers' according to Harry Reid)? How are you guys going to virtue signal yourselves out of that one? There'll be a lot of 'to be sures' thrown about, no doubt.

[Rich]

"Je suis Reason!"

[Fire Dalmia (DoM5k)]

Well, I would imagine that they would deserve at least some blame for inciting the ire of the Left, no?

[Tyler.C Sloopy's mom matters]

You know if victims of atrocities never existed, they wouldn't have been victims, so it really is their fault.

[Idle Hands]

Will Lady Gaga's politics take center stage at the Super Bowl?

Lady Gaga says performing at the Super Bowl half time show has been a lifelong dream. But the buzz surrounding the performance lately has been all about whether or not the singer will allow her politics to take center stage at the show.
A petition posted on Change.org, which has garnered about 2,400 signatures, calls for the pop superstar to be removed as the halftime entertainer because of her political outspokenness. Creator J. Stephen writes that because of Gaga's involvement in another petition that called for the Electoral College to reverse course on Trump's presidential win, the 30-year-old singer is "completely undeserving of such a platform as the Super Bowl."

I'm more concerned that she won't wear a meat suit and have crazy set designs that make no sense. Which is what made Katy Perry's show so entertaining with the sound off.

[DJF]

What is this "Super Bowl half time show" that you speak of?

Is there some sort of event happening?

And I assume that "Lady Gaga" is some sort of entertainers, is she a clown?

[Swiss Servator]

That, I believe, is something on during the reload-snacks-and-beer, bathroom break and check-the-squares-board time between halves.

[Rich]

Maybe she'll do a sarcastic performance of "I'm Proud To Be An American".

[Rufus The Monocled]

Whatever she does, the NFL will deserve it.

[The Last American Hero]

There were a couple of other things that made Katy's show visually appealing.

[Rich]

As social media sites like Facebook and Snapchat move to eliminate "fake news" reports from their sites, researchers from Stanford and New York Universities say Americans can be sure of one thing: the phenomenon did not affect the results of the presidential election.

Whew!

[Tyler.C Sloopy's mom matters]

So Facebook can stop and save thru monies?

[Tyler.C Sloopy's mom matters]

*their

[The Late P Brooks]

Yesterday, it seemed as if every time I turned around I tripped over some breathless examination of "Trump's botched anti-terrorist raid". Apparently, one of our guys was killed, others were wounded, and CIVILIAN WIMMINZ AND CHILLUNZ DIED. WAS IT WORTH THE COST?! Oh, Lordy, Lordy, how can such a thing be?

Where in the fuck were those teary-eyed "analysts" six weeks/months/years ago?

[John Titor]

I have yet to see an actual complete breakdown of what actually happened in the engagement, and I don't think I ever will, but for some reason some people think they're bloody Patton and could clearly do better.

[Crusty Juggler - #2]

The only good that comes from Trump being in charge is that some focus is going into how the war on terror is fought, however it is very disappointing how, because Trump is a dirty twat, how it seems like everyone instantly believes the grandfather's recounting of the events.

[Fire Shikha]

Glenn Reynolds said: "if you want an adversarial press, elect a Republican"

[John Titor]

The problem is that I'm seeing far less basic questions like "why the fuck are we in Yemen anyway, what's the point?" and far more "LOL the war on terror is awesome if it's done by a competent President like Obama, but Trump keeps fucking it up and killing civilians."

[Crusty Juggler - #2]

Oh yes, as of right now I agree with you, my fellow pro-pube friend, but I am being optimistic in that if enough coverage is focused on U.S. military engagements in that region, the basic questions you asked will be raised.

[american socialist]

This. Focus should be why there in first place or not...not whether civilians are killed which is a part of war

[Stormy Dragon]

We're in Yemen for the same reason for almost everything we do in the middle east: it's a proxy war between Saudia Arabia and Iran, and for some reason the elites think we should care about who wins.

[John Titor]

I'm not looking for the actual answer Stormy, I'm aware of it, I'm looking for more people actually asking the question.

[Drake]

Somehow Obama being presented with a planned raid and saying "go" is entirely different than Trump saying "go". They make it sound like the President is out there with the boat crew giving orders to SEALS.

[Tyler.C Sloopy's mom matters]

How do you know he isn't!?! It's all hush hush, to secret stuff.

[Fire Dalmia (DoM5k)]

Yeah, I'm definitely glad for the increased scrutiny of our country's unlawful military actions in countries with whom we are not legally at war, but it's hard to take these criticisms seriously, as they are clearly not made in good faith. It's not really about what we are doing but who is doing it.

[Fire Shikha]

Oh my God. Stop being a Trump apologist. When Obama killed civilians it was done in a humane way. The drones were super 'woke' and before they killed anyone they checked their aerial privilege.

Either way, shut up! He's not president anymore so citing the media's double standard doesn't count because this is literally fascism or something, etc.

[Tyler.C Sloopy's mom matters]

At some point it does get trying to cute the double standards because it doesn't change anyone's mind, because in the end it isn't supposed to. All you are doing is calling someone out for being a hypocrite, and they can then easily say, "I've changed" and boom you can't argue against them because the underlying point you agree with. All you feel now is frustration that a group of like-minded hypocrites are going to be okay with the contortions these people make. Then you realize that we live in a main of hypocrites and media bud does not matter to change people's minds.

/Rant

[Chip Woodier]

Well, Obama has evolved. He's no longer bombing hospitals and wedding parties.

[Idle Hands]

The White House Thinks Crimea Sanctions Should Stay Until Russia Returns It:

The White House on Thursday backed UN Ambassador Nikki Haley's assessment of the situation, including that "the dire situation in eastern Ukraine is one that demands clear and strong condemnation of Russian actions."

What's Putin's game here?

[DJF]

Don't worry, McCain will denounce Putin for it. He trying to get his Maverick title back

[John Titor]

Uh, so they're going to have to return it to the Crimean Khanate?

[Swiss Servator]

*vigorous Tatar cheering*

[UnCivilServant]

Don't be silly, clearly we have to give it to the Scythians.

[John Titor]

How many Tatars are left anyway, like six? Stalin did a number on them.

[Chipwooder]

Was there anyone Stalin *didn't* do a number on?

[John Titor]

Tatars got hit pretty bad in Stalinist Russia, even compared to everybody else. Starvation, followed by attempted complete destruction of their culture, followed by mass deportation and gulags.

[Stormy Dragon]

Is mass deportation really a hardship for nomads?

[Citizen X - #6]

Mass deportation to Siberia is hard on anyone.

[John Titor]

Completely uprooting a people and trying to spread them out across Central Asia and Siberia to force them to be absorbed into the local populations isn't fun regardless, but I'm unaware of how 'nomadic' the Tatars were by the 1920s. Would have to look that up.

[Pope Jimbo]

Well that will sure show Trump!

Local Somali nonprofit won't take $500K from Feds because it would be playing into Trump's hands or something.

I'm sure some crafty fund raiser at this group figured they could reject the money (supposed to be used to fight terrorism) and use the lack of it to raise more than $500K from proggies.

[american socialist]

Why are the feds giving 500k to a somali non profit

[Tyler.C Sloopy's mom matters]

Somali pirates >> letters of may
Marque >> Somali privateers

[DJF]

Because wasting the taxpayers dollars is the governments Prime Directive.

[Pope Jimbo]

To teach the muslim somali kids that extremism is no way to go through life.

It would be nice to see the Sons of Norway sue the Feds and say that it is totally unfair that they don't get $500K to teach their boys not to go off raiding France every summer.

After all the Somali leaders here love lecturing all of us about how they are just regular (but more oppressed) US citizens. So why should they get that loot?

[Rich]

George Orwell's 1984 heading for Broadway

I hear the musical numbers are double-plus-good. Especially "Rats!"

[Slammer]

Hmm. I wonder who the Goldstein is.

[Rich]

You know who else wondered about Goldstein?

[Fire Dalmia (DoM5k)]

This one has to be Hitler!

[American Memer]

O'brien?

[Rufus The Monocled]

Fuck. The lefties are going to fuck it up. Fuck.

[Fire Dalmia (DoM5k)]

Yeah, I find it really ironic that they're suddenly super-interested in 1984 given (1) the most harrowing part of the book was the appendix about Newspeak, which bears striking similarities to the PC movement, and (2) Barry was the king of Orwellian quotes (Kinetic Military Action, anyone?) and shoving unfortunate details down the memory hole.

Personally, I expect they'll draw all the wrong lessons from it.

[prolefeed]

It will be presented as a how-to manual.

That is all.

[Free Society]

Don't worry, all the actors will be non-white so it will be really good. They're just speaking truth to power Rufus jeeeeeeese.

[The Last American Hero]

Are you kidding? The Winston and Julia will be black. All the commie bad guys will be white.

[lafe.long]

Nordstrom Dumping Ivanka Trump Brand

It's unclear whether the #GrabYourWallet movement, which encourages shoppers to boycott the Ivanka Trump brand and any Trump-affiliated products, had anything to do with the development.

[lafe.long]

Gregg Popovich opens up on Black History Month, white privilege and 'our national sin'

As has often been the case of late when asked for his view on political and social topics beyond the boundaries of the hardwood ? like the election of President Donald Trump in November, last month's Women's March following Trump's inauguration, the administration's introduction of "alternative facts" into the national discourse and the chaotic rollout of the executive order banning refugees and immigrants from seven Muslim-majority nations from entering the U.S., for example ? the San Antonio Spurs head coach spoke freely, and at some length.

[american socialist]

Wtf is up with him? Good coach but dear lord give the preening a rest

[Free Society]

His views are so well thought out and original, no wonder he can't keep silent. These views need to be heard, I've never seen anyone argue that Donald Trump is racist and society is racist and the barista at Starbucks is racist and your dog is racist. I HAD NO IDEA THIS WAS SUCH A PROBLEM OMG

[Basketball Uber Alles, Jr.]

I've been a Spurs fan since I'm seven years old, and I can't wait until that douche is gone.

Great, great coach - but I suppose he's yet another person who assumes his mastery in one area makes him wise in others.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Clearly.

His 'we are Rome' quip was especially idiotic.

[Red Rocks Dickin Bimbos]

It was actually appropriate, but not for the reasons Popp thinks.

[lafe.long]

Hawaii Republican Leader, Vocal in Trump Opposition, Ready to Leave GOP

"What ended up being very problematic for me was that my caucus and others said, 'If you want to stay in leadership, then you need to make a commitment to not criticize the president for the remainder of his term,'" Fukumoto said. "And with what we've been seeing in the news with the different executive orders coming out every day, I didn't believe I could make that commitment."

[prolefeed]

She's in a swing district (to be fair, almost every Republican in the Hawaii House not from Hawaii Kai is in a swing district), and is probably thinking of joining the list of former Republicans who switched parties and had a much easier time getting reelected from then on, such as Mike Gabbard.

[Free Society]

A Georgia bill would ban universities from initiating sexual assault disciplinary hearings unless a criminal investigation had been launched.

They're doing this in Georgia so it must be racist.

[Fire Shikha]

No, it would by misogynist, you racist

[Free Society]

Racist misogynistic intersectional hate law. Not Okay.

[Tyler.C Sloopy's mom matters]

No more!!!

[Stormy Dragon]

Apparently there are Nazi Bronies too, which really makes my head hurt.

[Brett L]

They only let in thoroughbreds.

[Citizen X - #6]

Being a dumbshit regarding one set of life choices does not preclude being a dumbshit about another set of life choices.

[The Late P Brooks]

Somehow Obama being presented with a planned raid and saying "go" is entirely different than Trump saying "go". They make it sound like the President is out there with the boat crew giving orders to SEALS.

Some fucking jackass on PBS was whining about how the briefing (which "normally" would have been held in the situation room) was conducted during some sort of dinner meeting. With, of course, the same cast of characters who would have attended in any case.

"Now, it's impossible to be certain, but what if they had held that briefing in the proper manner and setting? Would the outcome have been different? We'll never know."

*shakes head sorrowfully*

[american socialist]

Trump should be giving them permission every step of the way! You can now move your left foot forward

[Stormy Dragon]

Military operations are actually the Presidential version of QWOP

[paranoid android]

So what is the worse crime; Trump continuing to illegally deploy the military in countries we are not at war with, spilling American blood and wasting American treasure for questionable gains with no regard for the cost to human life, or the media being big meanie hypocrites who wouldn't criticize Obama the same way?

[Citizen X - #6]

Can both be worse?

[american socialist]

The post above has nothing to do with what you brought up ....which is a valid point.

However

The post above was talking about pbs lamenting how briefing was in a different room which may have affected mission.

So not sure why you are posing this question here

[paranoid android]

It wasn't specifically to criticize Brooks. I've just been seeing a somewhat odd trend in comments about this story to the effect of "Why is everyone on Trump's back about it?" as if the damage caused by these military actions is no longer the President's responsibility.

[american socialist]

I think it has to do with at the annoyance on what the media focuses on.

What YOU brought up is what the discussion should be about imo.

What the media is focusing on is a distraction...whether in a particular room or civilians killed which is a part of war.

The issue should be on why even there in first place like you mentioned

[Free Society]

In case anyone missed it

shikha sood dalmia ?@shikhadalmia 1d1 day ago

Honest condemnation of #Berkley violence must also condemn those who invited him.What's point except baiting n inciting in Trump's America?

[Tyler.C Sloopy's mom matters]

A sad day for ... libertarianisim?

[Free Society]

For Reason at least. I'm certainly not going to claim her as ideological kin.

[Chipwooder]

Think she'll ever post anything to HnR again? The comment section to her next post, if there is one, will be a can't miss affair.

[John Titor]

It's going to be the internet version of burning an effigy of Dalmia on Reason's lawn.

[Citizen X - #6]

That's EVERY Dalmia comments section, though.

[John Titor]

Well this time we're going to piss on it at the same time.

[Fire Dalmia (DoM5k)]

And give it AIDS!

[Citizen X - #6]

Wouldn't that just put out the fire?

[Fire Dalmia (DoM5k)]

I usually avoid anything she writes, but I'm really looking forward to the next one.

[Free Society]

They haven't fired her in the past for her stupidity, they're not going to fire her now. I can't wait until the next Dalmia article commentariat dogpile. It's going to be a happening scene, everybody who is anybody is going to be there. It'll be beautiful, believe me. The best.

[Brett L]

Florida Man parks truck on top of car to prevent (other) Florida Man from retrieving gun in road rage case.

The victim's girlfriend screamed that there was a gun in the truck in an attempt to stop the attack when her boyfriend was unable to grab Aponte's hand. The girlfriend did not actually have a gun, police said.

Aponte told the family, "I'll show you a real gun," and then started to walk toward his vehicle. Traffic prevented the truck driver from moving forward, so instead, he backed up his truck and parked it on top of the Camry, so Aponte wouldn't get the gun and cause further harm to his family, police said.

I'm thinking of starting a GoFundMe to buy this young father a pistol.

[Tyler.C Sloopy's mom matters]

I'm so lost...

[Florida Hipster]

Florida Man WITHOUT a gun?!?

[Kurmudgeonly Kristen]

This is what my Super Bowl party is gonna look like

[Citizen X - #6]

Heavily pixelated and over quickly?

[Basketball Uber Alles, Jr.]

I'll thank you not to mention my love life again, X.

[Groovus Maximus]

Kristen, since you specifically asked the other day, Family Maximus is fine in Odessa which is much further west of all the fighting and bombing (though the occasional demonstration in the city can be a little wild).

Donets'k is a war zone now, we were there until 2015. If you see in the news that ports on the Black Sea are being overrun or bombed into oblivion, then you should worry. Otherwise, all is well.

Take care, Kristen.

[Free Society]

You went kinda dark for a few days after shit flared up again. Glad to hear you're all well in House Maximus.

[Kurmudgeonly Kristen]

Glad to see you!!!! Be safe over there!

[Ken Shultz]

"White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer told a press briefing Thursday that Trump was putting Iran "on notice" because Iran had attacked a U.S. naval ship; in actuality, suspected Houthi rebels in Yemen (a group loosely linked to the Iranian government, but definitely distinct from it) attacked a Saudi naval vessel."

He quickly corrected himself about it being a Saudi vessel.

"Linked" but "distinct" may or may not make much sense in the case of the Iranians and their proxy armies.

Since elements of what eventually coalesced into Hezbollah attacked our Marines in 1983, Hezbollah has generally avoided specifically targeting the United States. I don't believe anyone thinks that is because of the warmness in Hezbollah's heart or because they don't think of the United States as their enemy. The reason Hezbollah hasn't specifically targeted the United States is because they're a proxy for Iran, and Iran fears that if Hezbollah attacked the United States, the United States would rightly retaliate against Iran.

Hezbollah--and certain Houthi rebel groups--may be "linked" but "distinct" from Iran, but that doesn't mean Iran shouldn't be held responsible for what their proxies do. For honesty's sake, Iran is engaged in a proxy war in Yemen with Saudi Arabia.

[The Late P Brooks]

I've just been seeing a somewhat odd trend in comments about this story to the effect of "Why is everyone on Trump's back about it?" as if the damage caused by these military actions is no longer the President's responsibility.

I agree. I'm not defending Trump, I'm just pointing out the gross malfeasance of the media's suddenly rediscovering their horror at the thought of the death and destruction which is the inevitable and inescapable result of military adventurism.

Also, didn't "Obama" bomb a fucking Doctors Without Borders hospital with nary a peep of opprobrious chinscratching?

[Fire Dalmia (DoM5k)]

IIRC, he apologized and said we'll do our best not to do it again, and that was enough for CNN.

As I said above, for me personally, the issue is that it's just really hard to believe that this criticism is made in good faith and to take it seriously. I appreciate the increased scrutiny of our illegal military actions in Yemen and other nations against whom we are not lawfully at war, but the fact that this has been going on for the past eight years with nary a peep tells me that they are less concerned with what we are doing than with who is doing it.

Say the negative coverage manages to get Trump booted from the WH in 2020 and replaced by a Democrat. They won't hold that individual accountable if the illegal military actions continue; they'll just stop covering it again.

[Slumbrew]

Say the negative coverage manages to get Trump booted from the WH in 2020 and replaced by a Democrat. They won't hold that individual accountable if the illegal military actions continue; they'll just stop covering it again.

Precisely. Along with the "have you no decency?" bullshit.