Donald Trump

Trump Now Faces the Same Public Distrust That Propelled Him Into Office

He enters the presidency with extraordinarily low approval numbers.

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When Donald Trump takes the oath of office tomorrow, he'll be standing in the wreckage of shattered institutions. That's true in the sense that the movement that elected him was in large part driven by disgust with some of the dominant institutions of American life. It's also true in the sense that the institutions that once would have blocked someone like Trump from the presidency turned out to be too weak for the task. And it's true in the sense that long before Trump ran for office, Americans' confidence in everything from Congress to banks to the media has been sinking. For years polls have told the same story: People are putting less faith in authority.

Now the polls are telling a new variation on that story. Trump's approval ratings are extraordinarily low for an incoming president, ranging from a high of 44 percent (NBC) down to 37 percent (CBS). Contrast that with Barack Obama, who had 71 percent in NBC's poll as he took office. Or with George W. Bush, who came to power under extremely contentious circumstances but still had 57 percent the first time NBC asked the country how he was doing. (That's not a perfect apples-to-apples comparison, since the network didn't get Bush's first approval rating until March.) Both men's numbers later had their ups and downs, but each launched his presidency with a honeymoon that Trump doesn't seem poised to enjoy.

The public distrust that helped propel Trump into the White House isn't going to go away now that he's there. Americans may yet persuade themselves that Trump is making the nation's institutions great, but for now he's the face of another institution in decline.

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  1. but for now he’s the face of another institution in decline.

    Which institution though? Divorce? Bankruptcy protection? Self-tanning? Help me out here.

    1. See my comment below. Reality tv.

    2. The Ringling Brothers and Barnum and Bailey Circus.

    3. The application of gold leaf.

  2. There’s a TV on in the teriyaki joint where I’m eating my lunch, and there’s a show on that looks a lot like “ow, my balls!”

    1. Isn’t that “Kenny vs. Spenny” or somesuch?

  3. Contrast that with Barack Obama, who had 71 percent in NBC’s poll as he took office.

    I’d like to attribute that to the overwhelmingly positive press the first black president enjoyed as opposed to the overwhelmingly negative coverage the first orange one is getting. I’d like to, but it’s Trump.

    And being Trump, he’s going to dismiss both the moonbattery coming from journalists as well as the legitimate stories of his constituency’s disdain for the wreck of a ship he now helms.

  4. I put zero stock in any of those approval numbers poll. They’ve shown the polls to be skewed, especially with their aggressive oversampling.

    He will be trailing in approval numbers as he wins his 2nd term.

    1. I really wouldn’t be too surprised if they are more or less accurate, though. I get the impression that a lot of people who voted for him didn’t really approve of him, but liked the alternative even less.

  5. I’ve said all along that the best thing about a Trump presidency is we’re all going to get a president we can loathe.
    Best case, he severely damages the cult of the presidency.
    Worst case, we have a president that pretty much everyone deeply loathes.

    I don’t see a downside to his low approval ratings. He earned them. His predecessors are still vile and horrible people, each one worse than his predecessor. I expect Trump to carry on that tragic tradition.

    1. Unfortunately I like Trump because he is a president everyone will deeply loathe. Being a perpetual contrarian is easy until it’s not.

      1. Being a perpetual contrarian is easy until it’s not.

        It’s not easy when it’s easy.

        1. “It Ain’t Easy Bein’ Easy”
          …Janie Fricke

    2. I wish that were the case, but the progs aren’t going to say “We should rethink the entire office of the presidency”. They’re gonna be the ones eating the Memberberries this time around, thinking “Member when the presidency was for smart, serious people like Obama?” and then try their hardest to find a new messiah

  6. Obama gave the voters exactly what they wanted: he went in half black and he came out half black.

    My biggest problem with Obama is he didn’t spend 2,922 days golfing.

  7. Donald Trump…is he the “You’re fired!” guy?

    1. He is the guy who ruined the USFL.

      *burns New Jersey Generals jersey*

    1. Indeed. If someone from a major party had to be, he’s the guy.

  8. What is obsession with polls?

    The last two with high approvals were so wonderful

  9. These are the same people whose polls predicted Hillary would win with 300 electoral votes. How did that work out?

    I don’t know what Trump’s approval rating is. But, the media has a clear record of conducting push polls and polls that are heavily weighted towards Democrats as a way to push their narrative and convince anyone who disagrees they are in the minority and outside of mainstream opinion. .

    I am a bit disappointed that Jesse, who is normally much smarter than this, takes these polls at their face value.

    1. Pundits get caught up in looking at stated small sample size instead of revealed preferences

      Like progs all concerned people wont like aca repeal

    2. Well, if the poll reinforces my existing belief, then face value it is!

      1. Yup – polls are “skewed”, until they produce a result I like, then they are suddenly awesome again!

        1. The polls were never awesome, except for one known as the election. You were on here saying Trump couldn’t win a state. How did that work out? Why don’t you do yourself a favor and shut the fuck up for a while so you will stop embarrassing yourself.

        2. What were Trump’s “negative numbers” before the election? How much did that mean you fucking moron?

    3. “But, the media has a clear record of conducting push polls”

      No they don’t. A push-poll is where the pollster asks questions like “Given the fact that Trump beats his wife daily, how much more likely are you to vote against him?” They don’t pull crap like that. Polls for partisan organizations? Sure. Not polls from the media.

      “and polls that are heavily weighted towards Democrats as a way to push their narrative”

      Oh for heaven’s sake. What they did, was use a likely voter model based on the 2012 results. Turns out, Trump pulled in some unlikely voters, and Hillary deterred some otherwise likely voters from voting. Do we really have any concrete evidence that media organizations deliberately construct polls so as to push a particular narrative, other than generalized bitching about the media?

      1. Yes, Trump won despite the fact that every media outlet said the day before the election that he had no chance and they had the polls they said proved it.

        For fuck’s sake you idiot, Trump won. No one gives a shit about your polls or your opinions or really much of anything else the major media has to say. They couldn’t stop Donald Trump from being president. They are utterly irrelevant outside of the giant fart bubble the various die hard retards like you inhabit.

        1. Somewhere oit there is a poll that says trump didnt win the election.

      2. to be fair (I love saying that) a push poll can certainly be in the eye of the beholder. Here’s a poll from CNN that was seen by many as a ‘push’:

        What should be the main focus of the U.S. government in dealing with the issue of illegal immigration ? developing a plan that would allow illegal immigrants who have jobs to become legal U.S. residents, or developing a plan for stopping the flow of illegal immigrants into the U.S. and for deporting those already here?

        The argument being that the question didn’t allow for an opinion that doesn’t line up with these limited options:

        It’s a poorly-designed question in many ways. For example, it suggests that if you do support legalization you must also oppose stopping the flow of new illegal immigration. Couldn’t some who support legalization of those already here also oppose new illegal immigration? This question wouldn’t allow for such a response.

        1. CNN with the false dichotomy

        2. CNN with the false dichotomy

      3. “Oh for heaven’s sake. What they did, was use a likely voter model based on the 2012 results. Turns out, Trump pulled in some unlikely voters, and Hillary deterred some otherwise likely voters from voting.

        In fact they did that despite being constantly told that it was a mistake, and they were presented with evidence both in polls and anecdotally with the giant enthusiastic rallies, which they simply dismissed as populist rightwing racisms and whatnot.

        While I’m never one to underestimate the stupidity of the media, I do think their trumpeting of poll estimates they liked did have an aspect of hope, that even if it was wrong, it could create a self-fulfilling prophecy. I bet there’s research showing this happens and if it exists I bet they know about it.

    4. These are the same people whose polls predicted Hillary would win with 300 electoral votes. How did that work out?

      But, the media has a clear record of conducting push polls and polls that are heavily weighted towards Democrats as a way to push their narrative and convince anyone who disagrees they are in the minority and outside of mainstream opinion. .

      Not to get too conspiratorial here, but I wonder how much of this is rather explicit narrative science. That is to say, they can’t all be so dense as to fail to realize that they’re navel gazing. I wonder how much of it is “Exactly how effective has our pro-Hillary campaign been with white women been as opposed to our anti-Benghazi email campaign among white men?” with any smug satisfaction one way or the other as a side effect that maybe happens to keep the lights on as well.

    5. Jesse was never that smart, highly over-rated hack writing totally untrue and unfair hit-pieces for a failing magazine nobody reads any more. He’s only attacking me because I wouldn’t give him any money for his failing little foundation when he came to me begging for me to save it. Sad.

      1. 7/10. Needs more exclamation points!

    6. I don’t know shit about anyone’s opinion other than mine, and I am entertained as fuck.

    7. I wonder what the question is exactly for the approval rating polls. If it’s just “do you approve or disapprove of Donald Trump”, that seems fair enough.

      It seems to me that the biggest problem with polls now is getting a sample that’s really representative. Not to say that there aren’t lots of polls that are exactly as you describe. But some actually try to get accurate data.

      1. I neither approve nor disapprove…some of his proposals I like, some I detest.

  10. Unless the poll is conducted by Emily Ekins with an accompanying video, I am not interested.

    1. Actually, just skip the poll. And audio.

  11. “It’s also true in the sense that the institutions that once would have blocked someone like Trump from the presidency turned out to be too weak for the task.”

    Someone like what? A graduate from a “second tier” ivy?

  12. This suggestion that he’ll remit his profits to the US Treasury is such bullshit. Motherfucker won’t even release his tax returns but we expect to see his books to verify his profit sharing racket. God damn I hope this motherfucker goes to jail.

    1. You clearly don’t understand what a racket is.

      A racket is a service that is fraudulently offered to solve a problem, such as for a problem that does not actually exist, that will not be put into effect, or that would not otherwise exist if the racket did not exist.

      Where is he creating the problem that doesn’t exist in order to get money to his business? Do you have proof of this? Is his business offering to solve a problem for someone else? Maybe free dinner and room in the hotel….perhaps free golf.

    2. Profits aren’t indicative of a racket either

      1. Ah, you must be one of those right-wing “free market” fanatics.

        /sarc

  13. People are going to shower his companies with money only because he’s President and that’s fucking corruption!!!! It’s a criminal conspiracy in the making!!

    1. Needz moar sarc tag.

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