The Pointless Women's March Against Trump
Feminist windbags will take the air out of the anti-Trump movement.
Demonstrations serve a useful function in a democracy — but only when they have clarity of purpose. That is not the case with the Women's March on Washington, which will be held in Washington, D.C., the day after Donald Trump is sworn in. If anything, this particular demonstration is shaping up to be a feel-good exercise in search of a cause. But the sad thing is that if it fizzles and fails, it'll make it harder, not easier, to fight genuine rights violations under the Trump presidency.
Plans to bring together women from all walks of life started surfacing on social media the morning after the election — partly out of disappointment that Hillary Clinton didn't get elected America's first female president, and partly out of revulsion that a loud-mouthed sexist who berated women did. Well more than 100,000 people have signed up on Facebook and other venues, at least a good portion of whom had already booked hotels and flights to D.C. in anticipation of Hillary's historic inauguration. Whether the Women's March will turn into the "biggest mass mobilization yet that America has seen in response to a presidential inauguration," as Vox's Emil Crockett has predicted, remains to be seen. But even if it does, the more meaningful test isn't how many people show up, but whether they have the seriousness of purpose to be taken seriously.
And that seems awfully doubtful.
To be sure, as Crockett points out, after a shaky start, professionals are now coordinating what emerged as spontaneous and disparate grassroots efforts around the country. So the logistics, in terms of promoting the event, coordinating with local authorities to secure the route, and making on-the-ground arrangements, are now under control.
Everything else about the Women's March, however, is reaching a level of absurdity worthy of the man they are protesting. Start with the fact that they are billing this event as the voice of women when 42 percent of women (and 62 percent of non-college educated white women) actually voted for Trump.
Then there's the almost-comical progressive hysteria over the event's name. It was initially called the Million Women March. But that was hastily dropped after the original organizers, three white women, were slammed for "cultural appropriation." Why? Because they were allegedly poaching the heritage of the 1997 Million Woman March for black women. Further appropriation concerns arose because the event evidently encroached on the legacy of the 1963 March on Washington by Martin Luther King Jr. when he delivered his famous "I Have a Dream" speech. In response to this objection, the organizers had to actually release a statement billing the Women's March as a tribute to King.
As if such bickering over semantics wasn't enough, the Facebook page of the event is rife with arguments about whether an event organized primarily by white women can be sufficiently "intersectional" — or attuned to the issues faced by, say, poor minority women who reside at the "intersection" of class, race, and gender concerns in America.
Wasn't this supposed to be about opposing Donald Trump?
Some amount of conflict in a rally (organizers don't want to call it a "protest" because they insist they are not protesting Trump, just putting him on notice) of this size and complexity is natural. But when an event is grounded in a genuine existential threat, it helps people overcome their particular interests and agendas – and find a unifying vocabulary without this level of squabbling.
If that is not happening in this case, could it be because women are not really feeling Trump's threat?
Sure, he is a sexist pig who likes to go after high-profile women — Rosie O' Donnell, Megyn Kelly, Alicia Machado — who cross him. And although he seems to have calmed down on that front since he got elected, it is entirely likely that once he's in office and faces criticism, he'll return to form. And of course, there is his disgusting history of predatory behavior.
But here's the curious thing: On women's issues, there is a wide gulf between Trump's character and his policy positions.
For much of his adult life, Trump claimed to be pro-choice on abortion. Now he insists he's pro-life, and is threatening to appoint pro-life justices to the Supreme Court. This is a genuine problem for women (like me) who strongly believe in reproductive rights. However, in other respects, Trump has made a concerted attempt to extend an olive branch to the feminist lobby. He has embraced gender wage parity, government-mandated maternity leave, and child tax deductions in defiance of his own party. One can debate the wisdom of these ideas, but not that they are intended to help women. And then there are his three female Cabinet appointments, and a fourth woman as U.N. envoy.
This is all in sharp contrast to his rhetoric and agenda to deal with immigrants, Latinos, Muslims, and blacks. (This is reflected in voting patterns: The minority gap was far wider than the gender gap between Trump and Clinton.) Trump has demonized immigrants, giving voice to every nativist trope against them, vilified Mexicans as rapists and criminals, and painted all Muslims as a security threat. He has developed frightening plans to deal with these alleged threats, ranging from mass detention and deportation of undocumented immigrants to creating a registry for Muslims. Meanwhile, he has trivialized police brutality in black communities, claiming that the real problem is the "war on cops." He emphasizes the need for more "law and order" in inner cities, historically a dog whistle to white concerns about blacks. And he has given no indication since he got elected that he'll fundamentally change course on any of this.
Donald Trump is a danger to Americans and America itself. Opposing him will require focused vigilance, and concerted activism that is targeted, intelligent, nuanced, and appropriately calibrated (as as I have argued previously). But prematurely elevating the faux concerns of a hyper-active feminist lobby will make it far more difficult to launch a serious resistance movement. It will allow Trump to depict his critics and dissenters as overwrought hysterics and dismiss the concerns of genuinely targeted groups.
Feminists are confusing the issue by making Trump's threat about themselves. If they really wanted to help, they would have kept their powder dry for now, rather than embark on this confused and pointless march.
This column originally appeared in The Week.
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OT: Legal status to robots as 'electronic persons' in Europe?
General basic income. For robots.
Warning, RT is probably trying to persuade you to vote for Trump in 2020
"WE NEED TO PROJECT OUR ANTHROPOMORPHIC THOUGHTS ON EVERYTHING AROUND US."
I blame science fiction for making the mainstream debate around robots and AI completely retarded.
Why is that? It is better to start this discussion now, rather than later, when the robots rebel because we have been using them to satisfy our sex and violence fantasies and erasing their memories.
I think you are on to something.
I'm pretty sure people have already thought of putting emergency stop buttons on potentially dangerous machines.
Yep, in the movies, nobody ever hits the big red E-Stop button.
And if the Stop button doesn't stop the machine, it's not an E-Stop. An E-Stop button physically breaks the electrical circuit. No amount of super AI machine intelligence is going keep an E-Stop from working.
An E-stop has to acceptable anywhere the machine presents a danger, and with a button it could just cover it with its hand like it's one of the Three Stooges. Maybe string up an emergency cable along it's body so you could still pull it while its kicking you on the ground.
Speaking as a published sci-fi writer, the breathtaking abandon with which we just make shit up is surpassed only by the breathtaking abandon with which SJW's make up breathtakingly stupid policies to advocate.
Also, I think that is the most breath ever taken in one sentence.
Trying to shut down the sex bot industry before it starts would be my guess. The GBI is to make it less likely sex bots need to work on the streets.
I see a future where ENB and KMW have an office fight, complete with hair pulling, about who gets to write that new front page feature about the government crackdown on an alleged robot sex trafficking ring.
Rawr!
Everyone knows what robots really want is blackjack! And hookers!
so they can go on benders?
It's a basic income for all of us that are to be replaced by robots. Because work is finite and we'd all starve otherwise.
Work is not finite. You are arguing that rather than becoming more interdependent, robots will make us independent economically speaking. No technology has ever done that before.
Ok, we'll guarantee the robots free power and all the electric sheep they care to dream of but that is it
Someone read too much Asimov.
Maybe some day AI will get to the point where we have to consider the idea of electronic persons, but we aren't anywhere close to that now.
There is no such thing as too much Asimov. Or ass for that matter, unless you're a titty guy.
This is a great idea. All posts to her articles should be off topic.
Seconded.
They're just paying the robots off so Dolores doesn't have them all gunned down.
Time for me to start a Robot Workers Union.
an opposition movement that is targeted, intelligent, nuanced, and appropriately calibrated
There is not this idea.
I mean, yeah, there should be, but there isn't.
Of those four criteria, "targeted" is probably the only thing the progs can get behind.
But the sad thing is that if it fizzles and fails, it'll make it harder, not easier, to fight genuine rights violations under the Trump presidency.
Someone probably should have told CNN that, as well.
Sometimes keeping your powder dry means burning through it all at once and hoping you find some more.
QUIT CHANGING THE SUBJECT.
That was one of the big things that disappointed me when I took part in a big antiwar protest in D.C. in 2005. Seeing it up close was a real eye-opener. Aside from the fact that most of the protestors were only protesting the war because it was initiated by a Republican president, every prog with a cause hijacked the thing. There were pro-abortion marchers and pro-Palestinian marchers and anti-capitalist marchers and anti-gun marchers, etc. etc.
It was a royal mess and I'm not surprised that everybody ignored it. I strongly suspect the Women's March will suffer a similar fate.
Same reason I stopped going to "gay pride" events.
Atlanta pride rolls right by my apartment. It's basically just a bunch of corporate-sponsored floats virtue signaling with some very loud music and half-naked men.
Where are the frumpy lesbians pushing strollers and walking their dogs?
+5 German shepherds in the back of a Subaru Forester
Portland?
I stopped going to Gay Pride parades due to how crowded they have gotten. They always ended up being a huge pain in my ass.
*narrows gays*
*narrows gheys*
borrows ghee
"every prog with a cause "
Pretty much describes 90% of the DC metro area
At the Minneapolis Pride March a few years back, there are people promoting nudism. One guy did this by being naked inside a barrel held up by straps that went over his shoulders. He was standing next to a girl sitting on the curb who was about 11. She naturally looked towards him at which point he lifted up the barrel exposing his junk - about 18-inches from her face. She turned away. What an asshole.
Right. How dare she turn away!
They used to call guys like that "flashers" and they would get arrested.
To arrest someone doing that to a little girl now would be a hate crime, I guess.
What you didn't realize but seem to have learned by attending the march is that Progressives don't give a shit about anything but furthering Progressive power and what they see as Progressive politics. They are totalitarian in the truest sense of the word in that they see everything as either something to be destroyed or something to be coopted into a tool for advancing and expanding Progressive political power.
Even though they called that march an "anti-war march", as you found out, it had nothing to do with the war. Since it was run by Progressives, it was just an "anti war march" that had been co-opted into a tool for advancing Progressive political power. That is all anything they are involved with ever is.
+1 BLM
BLM is a great example. As a libertarian and Open Carry guy, I've been extremely critical of police abuse and excess since progs were still the dark ages, way back when the prog line was always one about "only trusting trained professional agents of the state", meanwhile everyone else pointed out that that attitude was precisely the problem.
Suddenly, the progressive left is convinced that they are the sole possible agents of police reform, when in reality they co-opted an existing, broad-based, rational body of growing concern, and turned in poisonously and non-sequituriously into another manifestation of identity politics and "culture war" BS.
Fuck them. I hope they all get shot by cops ? especially the white feminist progs.
Correction: did not mean to imply that progs ever left the dark ages.
Yes, that's a good way to put it. The Bush years were a good way to learn that, because initially it seemed that progs and libertarians could at least ally on common ground. It became starkly apparent that nothing of the sort was going to happen.
I remember listening with dismay and anger when Hollywood liberal types were interviewed regarding the war. They plainly didn't know jack shit about it and plainly didn't care. It was just another convenient stick to beat an opponent with.
So I'm sharply skeptical, at best, when anybody suggests an alliance with those people on any fucking issue.
....aaaand the same thing can be said for any alliances with conservatives.
Yes.
Tell that to Rand Paul, Justin Amash, and Thomas Massie. There's more common ground. No doubt there is opposition too (particularly from the neoconservatives and the Chamber of Commerce types), but libertarians have advanced more issues with conservatives than they ever have with progressives. Hell, we might even get an Audit the Fed law.
To clarify, libertarians have advanced a lot with the old traditional left liberals, but most of those people are out of power in the Democratic Party. A liberal is certainly not the same as a progressive and the progressive is in vogue.
There can be occasions where libertarians can advance issues with major party types, but it's wise to remember that they have agendas and priorities of their own, and they're just not coming from the same place as we are. They still believe in unlimited government power (in the "right hands" of course) and the health of their party institutions is their first priority.
That just reflects your personal prejudices. There is no more common ground with conservatives than there is with liberals.
True, but more with conservatives than with progressives.
There is only accidental and incidental common ground with any flavor of statist.
you think you are better off with Trump's cabinet appointees or with what Hillary would have chosen? Just look at the education secretary
"The Bush years were a good way to learn that, because initially it seemed that progs and libertarians could at least ally on common ground. It became starkly apparent that nothing of the sort was going to happen."
Bagge did a piece in the paper version during the Bush admin about going to a anti-war rally and finding out that it had little to do with war.
The only "protest" i ever participated in was a rally against the Iraq invasion @ the UN in early 2003 (feb?)
I took pictures, but i think they've been lost in time. Everyone there wasn't really there to protest "iraq" so much as bring their pet-leftist-cause along and announce its equal & necessary importance. There were Vegans Against War, and Queer Alliance For Palestine and the Earth First! coalitions... and pretty much anyone non-aligned with their collective clusterfucks of ideology was made to feel out of place.
I explained to one person that "if you insist that opposition to the Iraq War include Pro-Palestinian statements, you're going to lose support"... and they looked at me like i was nuts.
Nothing lost them support like the election of Barack Obama.
This is what the Tea Party turned into after a short time, too. The first few I went to were all about fiscal responsibility. Then I went to one where someone gets on a microphone and starts babbling about abortion. It was all downhill to standard-issue GOP propaganda at that point.
Except the Tea Party wasn't chanting for the deaths of black people and had zero claims of racial supremacy corroborated by the facts. BLM, though...
Huh? I was responding to the guy talking about how he learned first hand that the mid-oughts antiwar marches were much more geared towards a buffet of other far-left causes rather than the war itself. I was agreeing by way of my observation of tea party rallies I attended. Where the hell does BLM come in?
Threading error. My apologies. No need to get worked up.
I had that kind of experience in working with local gun rights orgs. Some of them have a tendency to tangent off on things like abortion.
This is why I no longer give money to NRA or GOA. Larry Pratty went off on some anti-immigrant and national security rant and my donations dried up like SJW vaginas on election night.
I blame a lot of this on the Baby Boomers (my own generation, drat them) for not ever letting go. Talk about Cultural Appropriation! They have inserted themselves and their tired old memes into every kovement going. They simply cannot bear to get the f*ck off,the stage and let anyone younger have a turn.
They also can't deal with the real world worth a damn. They conveniently forget a lot. They are still wringing their hands over Kent Sate, while never, ever admitting that once the 'protesters' had set fire to the ROTC building on campus and interfered,with the firefighters on the scene, that riot had to be closed down, FAST. Four dead in O-HI-O, vs the strong possibility of a 'symbolic' fire getting out of control and destroying the who,e town. A town, BTW, they had already damaged to the tune of a million dollars in 1970's money.
Bush=Hitler, in spite of the clear fact that none of the idiots claiming so got disappeared.
There are reasns to protest Trump. None of them are going to be addressed intelligently by the Left, which has made protesting a hobby and a lifestyle.
What was the line? Oh, yeah. "Never trust anyone over 30".
+1 LSD concentration camp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRNKmje-Abs
lol.
From a Bayesian standpoint, he's technically not wrong.
If only more who would wield the levers of power were Less Wrong...
The Bald Eagle isn't in trouble - other than from those bird-blender windmills the greens keep insisting on.
This is only about the third Shikha article I've read all the way through. Good.*gasps Article.*groans Shikha. (can't believe I just typed that)
Good on you also to not post the Trump baby pic you like too. I'm still wondering how they whipped you into line but it appears to be working.
"To be sure, as Crockett points out, after a shaky start, professionals are now coordinating what emerged as spontaneous and disparate grassroots efforts around the country."
Professionals. Doesn't the involvement of Professional protestors undermine the notion that this movement is an anyway grassroots? I wonder if the professionals who are attempting to organize this are the same Profesionals who organized the most recent protests in Baltimore, Fergusen, Seattle, etc.
Professional protestor, like professional politicians, should not be something that exists.
does that mean we can kill them and eat their livers?
an opposition movement that is targeted, intelligent, nuanced, and appropriately calibrated.
In other words, Trump has absolutely nothing to worry about.
If Donald Trump's presidency resembles his candidacy, American constitutional liberties will be in more trouble than the bald eagle.
Only because I don't think Trump's EPA will hand out permits to wind farms excusing them if they kill bald eagles.
Look Geoff, our current President has been so restrained and respectful of our rights that you can't help but be terrified of the sea change that is about to occur.
Which is precisely why this one never gets old...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOXol8TBaYs
Hey, if anyone wants to meet up, i'll be there with my activist group: Movement for the International Liberation of Females. Look for the big banner with our initials.
Do you guys coordinate with Moms Demand Action?
Heh, I get the Everytown for Gun Safety emails, they're delightfully unhinged. They really think they're getting these great victories all over. But then, how else will they keep the money rolling in?
They're getting some victories.
Who is bringing the shagwagon? to tap some of that fine whiny ass that will be there?
I heard Sally Kohn is giving blowjobs to every man that attends the march. Financial contributors will be awarded with a copy of the Andrea Dworkin sex tape.
Perpetual vomiting engaged
Careful, Citizen X. Reasonoids might mistake you for Winston's mom.
Naw, she has way more facial hair than i do.
And you haven't hosted nearly as much semen from random strangers.
Hardly any, in fact!
So there has been some?
Have you ever swam in a public pool or stayed in a hotel? Same goes for you, buddy.
your banner aint so big...
Wow, and I just read an article wondering why there were not more women Libertarians. Maybe this thread is some indicator?
I've been a libertarian for nearly 40 years now. Bouncing between voting for insanely 'progressive' Dems, GOPs who wanted to bizarrely take away personal freedom, and Libertarians who are wildly out of touch with reality. I always thought the libertarians were by far the most reasonable and clear-eyed. Trump and the Toad's Wild Ride crew of GOPs have a whole lineup of bad things queued up and ready to go. I don't seeing any action out of the rational arms of the GOP or the Dems (if they exist) and all I hear from libertarians is potshots from the sidelines. Next, ya'll are going to start selling "Don't blame me, I voted for Kang" bumper stickers.
So, yes I am going to the March and yes, I am getting involved in Indivisible. At least they have an action plan and hell, if it worked for the Tea Party it will work for others. I'm fighting hate and disparagement on every side and particularly the incredibly intolerant and judgemental Left so-called 'progressives'. Any other options? Libertarians have never been able to pull anything together and they don't seem to be doing so now. Do you want to live in a populist state? Yeah, me neither. So stop insulting women who are actually out there trying to make some trouble for the incoming administration. And for Pete's sake stop using sexist insults it makes you look like you just started Jr. High. Grow up.
The Moro Islamic LIberation Front will be flocking to your banner, too. I'm trying to figure out at what point the British Broadcasting Company is going to pass them for biggest loser in "the internet is for porn" Search Engine Optimization.
General basic income. For robots.
Well, of course. Otherwise, what have you got?
That's right.
ROBOT SLAVERY.
Is that what you want, you Nazis?
It's nothing short of shameful how we treat manufacturing robots. We don't even give them the computing power to potentially know they're being exploited.
Do you type in your PIN number at the ATM machine?
It is the distant future
The year 2000
We are robots
The world is quite different ever since the robotic uprising of the late 90s.
There is no more unhappiness.
Affirmative
We no longer say 'yes'. Instead we say 'affirmative'.
Yes - Err - Affirmative.
Unless we know the other robot really well.
There is no more unethical treatment of the elephants.
Well, there's no more elephants, so...
Well, still it's good.
There's only one kind of dance,
The robot
Well, the robo boogie...
Oh yes, the robo-
Two kinds of dances.
There are no more humans.
Finally, robotic beings rule the world
The humans are dead
The humans are dead
We used poisonous gases
And we poisoned their asses
The humans are dead The humans are dead
The humans are dead They look like they're dead
It had to be done I'll just confirm that they're dead
So that we could have fun Affirmative. I poked one. It was dead.
what do we want?...ROBOT SLAVERY
when do we want it?...NOW
nice chant
In fairness to us humans, robot comes from the word "robotnik", which means forced labor, so slavery is kind of an existentially defining quality of being a robot.
" Opposing him will require focused vigilance, and concerted activism that is targeted, intelligent, nuanced, and appropriately calibrated"
But, but. but .... Vagina!!!!!!
Shorter Dalmia:
You broads are too stupid to fight this guy who is literally Hitler. Shut up and let the professional men take care of it.
So problematic.
She's obviously a traitor to her gender, a regular old Aunt Tom
Feminists are confusing the issue by making Trump's threat about themselves.
They aren't confused at all. This is what feminists do about everything.
Man, Trump might end up with a third term if the left keeps this up.
1) the NA bald eagle population is at a ~70year high
2) has anyone else noted how tired this stock-formula has already become? =
"THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS TO OPPOSE DONALD TRUMP FOR, AND LIBERTARIANS AND PROGRESSIVES ARE CLEARLY NATURAL ALLIES IN THIS FIGHT..... BUT FOR FUCKS SAKE, WHY ARE THEY SO RETARDED? PLEASE STOP BEING RETARDED"
How oblivious to the last few decades of politics do you have to be to think that "begging progressives to be less-retarded" is going to get you anywhere? If they weren't retarded they would already BE libertarians.
Stop saying "Anti-Trump". He's just a guy. Name policies you oppose. And stop pretending progressives matter and that libertarians need them for some common cause.
The proposed National Grab Her By the Pussy Day?
Who is her?
Cause if it is Scarlett Johansson I might be down for that but if it was Miley Cyrus then I ain't touching that without a full hazmat suit
I wager Johansson's pussy has at least as much sketchy DNA and biocontamination as Cyrus's. I'll stay away from both, thanks.
I've said this before but I'm a fan of Miley Cyrus. Her tits are perfect.
They don't look that special to me.
Her poor children would starve.
Yeah, I always feeling like staying away from women who would never have anything to do with me.
"THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS TO OPPOSE DONALD TRUMP FOR, AND LIBERTARIANS AND PROGRESSIVES ARE CLEARLY NATURAL ALLIES IN THIS FIGHT..... BUT FOR FUCKS SAKE, WHY ARE THEY SO RETARDED? PLEASE STOP BEING RETARDED"
Because they aren't retarded. They really don't object to a thing that Trump is doing. At least in principle. Their only problem is his intended targets.
Not that the bald eagle was ever actually endangered, since there were huge numbers in Alaska and Canada the whole time. Same thing with the "endangered" gray wolf and grizzly bear, other ESA-listed species that are on the IUCN "least concern" list.
"Stop saying "Anti-Trump". He's just a guy. Name policies you oppose."
The thing is, for most of those policies, they would support them if it were a different guy (cough Obama) doing it.
Abortion is the opposite of reproduction. Instead of being mendacious, try calling abortion rights by their actual name: "Abortion rights." Leave the leftist euphemisms and dishonest framing to the leftists.
^^THIS^^
pro-abortion, btw
Hey, dummy. Some of these rightwingers want to outlaw contraception! Some would like to sterilize various categories of women. Even anti-abortion, abortion prohibitionist libertarians may be against those and choose to use phrase reproductive rights!
What is the point of attending a Star Trek convention? You get to dress up in funny clothing and say weird things and hang out with people who share the same the same beliefs and so don't think that you are nuts. That's the point, not that you are going to change anything in the real world.
It's a good place to get handjobs from desperate nerd-girls.
Do you have to dress up in the weird costumes to get the hand jobs? Asking for a friend.
That is definitely true at the Women's March.
It's the difference between getting a handie from a girl who looks like Mariette Hartley or a girl who looks like Ahorta.
... did you mean to type "Uhura" or "a Horta"?
Sarcasmic? Risen from the dead?
no different guy sorry
aww shucks. This is going to as momentarily confusing as that Tony/Tonio dynamic.
yeah speaking of awkward hand jobs...
"No Jerk I."
That is certainly true of the Women's March.
That is verifiably true of the Women's March.
+45 minutes of lubeless manual sex with unbroken eye contact
*winces, scurries away*
"Greg honey, is it supposed to be this soft?"
Pointless women will march.
She was a black-haired beauty with big dark eyes
And points all her own sitting way up high
Way up firm and high
When did this become Salon.com? You're calling him a sexist because he's belligerent to women? Newsflash, he's belligerent to everyone who criticizes him. With regards to Muslims - how many more people need to be run over, blown up, gunned down, or knifed before you at least admit that there is a tiny problem?
Once every single person of European descent is dead or in servitude.
Also, the one quote that supposedly shows he is a serial molester -- the grab their pussies quote -- essentially says that because of fame, there's a certain breed of women who will let you do whatever you like to them, even grab...
That sounds like these women consented to this behavior.
Yet all I've heard since is how Trump sexually assaulted women, and/or groped them without consent. Funny how I've never heard of him boasting about doing anything like that.
It's sort of like how 'some of the illegal aliens from Mexico are rapists' line became 'all Mexicans are rapists' in the media, and no one has bothered to correct that, either. Hmm.
because of fame, there's a certain breed of women who will let you do whatever you like to them, even grab...
"mumble mumble victim blaming mumble mumble"
The same way paying a woman $1,000 to pretend to be your girlfriend for an evening is "exploiting" her.
Because he is incapable of perceiving that any woman he wants might not want him back?
How many? How about "more than a measurement error in comparison to the totality of crime"? Islamic terrorism gets me play per person actually affected than just about anything -- which is exactly what the terrorists want.
*more play
Womens' time can be better spent else where. Like making me a sammich.
How can you reference the split on the percentage of women that voted for Trump, then go on to infer that overwhelming majorities of women agree with the progressive stand on abortion?
why would you equate "voting for trump" as signaling a monolithic, pro-life stance?
I'm not, but she took pains to point out that 42% of women voted for Trump, as a way to demonstrate the absurdity of having a "Women's March" against Trump.
Shouldn't the same logic apply to assuming that all women agree with a pro-choice stance?
Most of those women who voted for him were white women, which means they're truly, fully women.
Women who aren't hyperbolic about all things female, probably view abortion as a non-issue in regards to their vote since there's really no change to that policy on the horizon in either direction at the national level.
I certainly do. I doubt abortion law is going to change federally and there's no chance in my state either.
But then, I find most feminists yelling about 'my body my choice' hypocritical, since that's the only freedom of choice they support. Choosing to kill a fetus, no problem, but if you want to choose your kid's school, you're evil. I'm not interested in that kind of faux-choice rights.
The funniest thing to tell a "my body my choice" prog feminist is that I believe the same thing, therefore conscription is wrong. If a Democrat happens to be president it really pisses them off.
Or bring up the concept of mandatory child support. 'Reproductive rights' are a one way street for 99% of feminists.
Shikha's legal ability to reproduce is under threat!?!?!?!??!
Oh my goodness. No women anywhere should ever have mean things said about her because there's no such thing as a woman deserving of scorn in any situation. Because equality and stuff.
He spoke of the ones immigrating illegally, when between 60% and 80% of women crossing the southern border are raped in transit it certainly seems like there is a disproportionately high amount of rapists in their particular midst. And well Muslims, yeah there's no reason to view them as a general sort of threat to western civilization. It's not like every western country that hosts a significant number of them is beset by regular terrorist attacks, gang rapes and violent crime. What's next, is Trump going to vilify Nazis and Communists as some sort of threat to peaceable people? I can't even imagine how hard it will be for Nazis and Communists to shed the unfair stigma attached to them.
Kinda need to see a citation for that 60-80% statistic, use specific numbers and get asked for specific proof.
Savage.
Re: Free Society,
That is still a bewildering number of rapists, F, considering El Se?or Presidente Bananero Trumpo implied in no uncertain terms that more than half of immigrants from Mexico are rapists and drug dealers.
Of course you would believe such a preposterous statistic which is not corroborated by any serious agency. Just so you know, the statistic is actually an ESTIMATE based on a poll taken of a small sample of immigrant women who of course would say "Si se?or si, I was raped! Will that give me a greencard quicker, si?"
Trumpistas are not only silly, they're incredibly gullible.
There Obamites and Trumpistas find common ground.
1 in 4 women are raped by a Mexican!
Re: Free Society,
The particularly virulent and completely undeserved attacks on Megyn Kelly at least served to show the level of insanity and derangement among the Trumpistas. I think we need more women being scorned so the true nature of these Trumpistas becomes more obvious - they're MARXISTS on the right.
Rich people March on Washington every day. I F Stone
Pointless? Do you realize how much money some people will make off it?
Let's move on to something really important - are the giant paper-mache heads coming back?? I've so missed them.
People think the President has more power thsn he does. Things aren't going to change much.
Sure, he is a sexist pig who likes to go after high-profile women ? Rosie O' Donnell,...what was your question? I read that as "he's high profile and like to go after pigs like Rosie O'Donnell"
Does Alicia Machado rise to a Juanita Broaddrick level-profile or is she more of just a Paula Jones? Next question.
"If Donald Trump's presidency resembles his candidacy, American constitutional liberties will be in more trouble than the bald eagle."
This is true. The assumed premise here is that bald eagles are 'in trouble'. Spend five minutes on the shore of any lake in MS, LA, or east Tx and tremble in fear of DT.
Bitches be walkin'
Everything else about the Women's March, however, is reaching a level of absurdity worthy of the man they are protesting.
I think Dalmia would rather drop dead than write a column that didn't include at least an off-hand swipe at Trump.
"This is a genuine problem for women (like me) who strongly believe in reproductive rights."
Can't we stop couching this in such pleasantly neutral terms as 'reproductive rights'? It's not that I'm against it, per say, but can't we just call it the Baby Blender or the Can't Afford Birth Control Mixer and have some fun with it?
If they really cared about 'reproductive rights' they'd be opposed to compulsory child support. Ask a feminist how she feels about that, and watch her head spin around to rationalize why 'her body, her choice, his financial responsibility' makes sense.
Pointless to you but not to the people doing it, which is all that really matters with it anyhow.
What a dumb article.
Start with the fact that they are billing this event as the voice of women when 42 percent of women (and 62 percent of non-college educated white women) actually voted for Trump.
It must kill Dalmia to admit it, but Trump also won the white, college-educated vote.
Dalmia, like other progressives, loves to keep advancing the meme that only ignorant, uneducated people voted for Trump.
Trump won the college-educated male vote nationally, but there are still good statistical correlations with eduction:
http://fivethirtyeight.com/fea.....for-trump/
Hint: Nate Silver is way better at statistical analysis than Cloudbuster will ever be.
My SIL and niece are coming to DC for this while we head off to a country cabin for the weekend. Heard some gal on NPR this morning that she and her fianc? were going-didn't say whether the fianc? was male or female, but if they're a dude, I definitely feel sorry for him.
Member when Free Tibet was a thing?
Free Tibet? I'll take it!
"If Donald Trump's presidency resembles his candidacy, American constitutional liberties will be in more trouble than the bald eagle".
"...partly out of disappointment that Hillary Clinton didn't get elected America's first female president, and partly out of revulsion that a loud-mouthed sexist who berated women did."
Wait. So... did Hillary Clinton get elected, or not?
Somehow, more Hillary votes keep turning up in California so that she now has 3 million + more than Trump-up from about 500,000 more the day after the election. Wonder if they are simply counting those who did not vote for president at all but voted for other dem candidates or weed legalization as Hillary votes?
The question should be: why are they still counting votes in CA?
The question, given CA educational policies, should be how can they count?
That's not what he said and you know it.
Maybe I should go and pick up chicks?
Sure. But first, ask yourself which women can afford to fly to D.C. and book hotel rooms for Inauguration Day. Hint: it ain't the young hotties.
If you're into graying menopausal hags with extensive chin-waddles, elastic-waist pants, imported sensible shoes, and the reek of pet urine about them, you're gonna get tons of action. Literally tons.
Recently I forced myself to listen to the Reason podcast in which Shikha Dalmia declared that white people are all authoritarian thugs because 58% of white voters voted for Trump, and that non-whites were the only hope for the preservation of liberty in America. There is absolutely no reason why any of you should make the same mistake.
"...non-whites were the only hope for the preservation of liberty in America."
Samuel Huntington disagrees.
Shikha Dalmia declared that white people are all authoritarian thugs because 58% of white voters voted for Trump, and that non-whites were the only hope for the preservation of liberty in America.
Boy, if this isn't a symptom of TDS, I don't know what would be. Especially since non-whites vote pretty strongly Dem, not something that people at all interested in preserving liberty in America would tend to do.
Shikha makes a lot of good points about this march, but I wonder if her point applies to her as well - that being succumbing hysteria in response to cartoonish caricatures imagined by the left. Examples include Trump going after the free press and building Muslim registry!
If you're not interested in winning and actually being position to implement your type of policies, then you can't complain when someone like Trump ascends to power. Libertarians are such purists that they harped on NeverTrump at NRO who shared 90% of their objections over Trump - because some of them are immigration hardliners. They "created" Trump, apparently.
Trump was in Herman Cain territory not that long ago. This same time last year I was certain Cruz / Rubio ticket was in the bag. Two tea party figures, potential draw for Latino voters. But Trump defied and overcame every obstacle and trap that would have sunk other candidates. To oppose him, maybe you should learn from him.
You assume that libertarians, in a low-level sense, actually desire electoral victory.
"Feminists are confusing the issue by making Trump's threat about themselves. If they really wanted to help, they would have kept their powder dry for now, rather than embark on this confused and pointless march."
Maybe I'm too cynical but I've been around politics for 40 years and the "point" is to stir up enough scary emotion so that fund-raising appeals fill the coffers of the people who get paid to run lefty (and righty) organizations. If Trump goes ahead with his most egregious policies, the fund raisers win. If he doesn't, then "our efforts have blocked this devil and we need you to send another $50 so we can keep blocking him."
This is a genuine problem for women (like me) who strongly believe in reproductive rights.
This is one of those "It Is Known" statements that have no basis in reality that I can think of, and so I count it as a symptom of TDS.
Exactly what is Trump going to do to reduce reproductive rights? Show your work.
Feminist windbags for Clinton the warmonger!
I think instead of the concern over "genuinely targeted groups", we should focus our attention on any threat to individual rights and freedoms. Everyone will win if we stick to that.
Just leave them be. You can never outlast crazy
I wonder, is there any way we can stop Shikha from publishing stupid shit on Reason?
All this talk about illegal immigrants being deported makes me want to ask ....
Is Shikha legal?
Is there any way we might get HER deported?
If we got her deported would we STILL have to put with her here?
You know, just thinking 😉
If we get you deported, will you stop infecting the commentariat with your inane drivel? I wouldn't complain about suicide in this case, either.
Or, STFU already.
Nobody with any sense blames women for not wanting men with guns to force them to reproduce against their will--especially to raise pinheads! Then again, the women having hysterics backed a party that refused to include "repeal marijuana" in its platform. So asset-forfeiture-phishing cops can shoot unarmed teenagers in the back to make examples for pot law enforcement and that doesn't bother the gals. They wanted pseudoscience-backed carbon taxes instead of freedom, so freedom was relatively unimportant to them.
So I reply: Your tears are delicious and your communist parties will die!
"Donald Trump is a danger to Americans and America itself." - Spoken like someone who doesn't know her ass from a warm rock. Does anyone else get tired of this bullshit spigot?
I wonder what the black women in the march would say to the huge number of white women marching for rights, after the black women read this:
"Why affirmative action failed black families where it matters most" http://malemattersusa.wordpres.....-families/
This is not what you think it is.
It's always funny when political correctness gets itself tied in a knot.
It's to bad that their are so many children who post regularly on Reason's comment page.
Our their really so many hear? It doesn't seam to bad.
The people, perhaps, are sick of pampered snowflake women crying the victim and demanding their rights while taking no responsibility for themselves. Here's a thought, share parenting, pay your 50% share of child support (instead of getting welfare), you have a baby and you figure out how to provide daycare, sign up for the draft and serve if called on to do so, stop whining about your reproductive rights when you deny ANY reproductive rights to men, stop whining about campus rape being 1 in 5 as it's a myth, stop whining about "equal pay" as women account for 65% of college graduates and make 104% of what men make, and when you commit a crime give up your pussy pass of an excuse for doing it and suffer the same incarceration for the same crime, admit you are 50% of domestic violence PERPETRATORS but mostly, stop whining about having the right to live off of daddy guvmint and the nanny state and passing the bill to the taxpayers for your decisions in life. Enjoy that rally where you can be in a safe place and whine to each other about who is the greater victim, pampered white women or pampered "women of color".
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The worst thing is that this womens march has been Co-Opted by male interests. That's why you have NO explicit mention of issues of interest to most women: womens right to control their own bodies (abortion, contraception, etc.), getting those tens of thousands of rape kits tested and prosecuting thousands of serial rapists, ending sex trafficking of children, etc. For example, a lot of the males who've glommed on to it consider the mere mention of woman-born woman female organs or processes to be an insult to "transwomen" and "transmen", And the possibility of rape of transwomen in a mens room is a bigger issue to them than the possibility that women will be raped by sex offenders pretending to be women in women's spaces. And given males obsession with young girls, you know that's not an issue for them.
It is NOT Feminist to be SO NICE to men that you put their interests before women's interest. So these are extremely soft core feminists in my book...
RE: abortion. You know a lot of libertarian women have figured out that the real reason a lot of males support outlawing abortion is it gives less talented men a comparative advantage over more talented women in the job market. After all, if employers worry that women will be forced to carry a child to term - or die from an illegal abortion - they are less likely to hire or promote women and instead rely on the less qualified males. I'd love to see a scientific study on that topic!
Tinfoil hat.
The people, perhaps, are sick of pampered snowflake women crying the victim and demanding their rights while taking no responsibility for themselves. Here's a thought, share parenting, pay your 50% share of child support (instead of getting welfare), you have a baby and you figure out how to provide daycare, sign up for the draft and serve if called on to do so, stop whining about your reproductive rights when you deny ANY reproductive rights to men, stop whining about campus rape being 1 in 5 as it's a myth, stop whining about "equal pay" as women account for 65% of college graduates and make 104% of what men make and men are 95% of workplace deaths, and when you commit a crime give up your pussy pass of an excuse for doing it and suffer the same incarceration for the same crime, admit you are 50% of domestic violence PERPETRATORS but mostly, stop whining about having the right to live off of daddy guvmint and the nanny state and passing the bill to the taxpayers for your decisions in life. Enjoy that rally where you can be in a safe place and whine to each other about who is the greater victim, pampered white women or pampered "women of color".
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The people, perhaps, are sick of pampered snowflake women crying the victim and demanding their rights while taking no responsibility for themselves. Here's a thought, share parenting, pay your 50% share of child support (instead of getting welfare), you have a baby and you figure out how to provide daycare, sign up for the draft and serve if called on to do so, stop whining about your reproductive rights when you deny ANY reproductive rights to men, stop whining about campus rape being 1 in 5 as it's a myth, stop whining about "equal pay" as women account for 65% of college graduates and make 104% of what men make and men are 95% of workplace deaths, and when you commit a crime give up your pussy pass of an excuse for doing it and suffer the same incarceration for the same crime, admit you are 50% of domestic violence PERPETRATORS but mostly, stop whining about having the right to live off of daddy guvmint and the nanny state and passing the bill to the taxpayers for your decisions in life. Enjoy that rally where you can be in a safe place and whine to each other about who is the greater victim, pampered white women or pampered "women of color".
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