Bad Trump Grill Review Makes PEOTUS Mad, Will Ivanka Trump Be the Real First Lady?, Facebook Fights Fake News: P.M. Links

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  Some people are mad over reports that Ivanka Trump will be using workspace normally reserved for the First Lady. Trump's spokesperson denies the reports.

• Donald Trump seems to be mad about Vanity Fair's negative review of Trump Grill.
• Marijuana is legal in Massachusetts, as of today.
• Facebook has announced new features to fight "fake news."
• Only about 1,000 people have been evacuated from devastated East Aleppo.
• Missouri school district issues apology after its students hold up Trump sign, then turn their backs on black basketball players during introductions.

Comments

[Fist of Etiquette]

Donald Trump seems to be mad about Vanity Fair's negative review of Trump Grill.

Trump is going to hit them back with a bad Yelp review.

[Clich? Bandit]

I hate you

[Fist of Etiquette]

There's someone in my office yapping at me, and I had to do a lot of tagging to reverse the italics on the magazine title. No excuse for not beating me today.

[Crusty Juggler]

There's someone in my office yapping at me

"Hold on, I have to be first."

*furiously hits F5*

[Pay up, Palin's Buttplug!]

Opera can automatically refresh the page based on a timer.

I'm sure there are extensions that can do the same thing for other browsers.

[Crusty Juggler]

He has explained it before. He typed it out step-by-step for Pete's sake. However, that will not preclude me from claiming he refreshes the page constantly.

Facts, much like organ donation, is for losers.

[Fist of Etiquette]

I thought no one remembered that.

And I could sure use a kidney, chumps.

[Trshmnstr, Grump Apprentice]

There's someone in my office yapping at me

[Trshmnstr, Grump Apprentice]

okay, that was not my fault... i used reasonable to format it.

It said "Yes, it was your IT guy, he's there to clean out your parallel port"

[Fist of Etiquette]

...if you know what I mean.

[MarkLastname]

Did you finish those TPS reports yet?

[AlmightyJB]

It's illogical to hate an algorithm.

[Clich? Bandit]

and since when is the sneaky tactic of putting TWO articles out at the pm links time.
I HAD TO SCROLL

[Libertarian]

I HAD TO SCROLL

First World problems.

[Playa Manhattan.]

I'll tell you how he does it. For a price.

[Tonio]

I think I know, too. Going to be investigating this further in the coming days. I had previously maintained that he was simply lucky enough to be closer to the H&R server than anyone else in terms of network topology, but PM got me thinking about things...

[Pay up, Palin's Buttplug!]

Are you getting to the bottom of things?

[Tonio]

Ha!

[bacon-magic]

Playa, I thought you were going to be first today? *watery-eyed kid who meets his hero only to find out he's a bum

[Playa Manhattan.]

I didn't get home in time. Could have, but hit 2 red lights.

[bacon-magic]

That's what I tell my orphans when they want more gruel.

[Eternal Blue Sky]

I think he just types "http://reason.com/blog/[current year]/[current month]/[current day]/pm-links#comment" into the URL around 4:29 and then clicks f5 until the url stops giving him a 404.

Either that or he has Warty's timesuit.

[Tonio]

Rico dropped a hint, perhaps unintentionally, recently when he described how he had to repost the links one day but Fist's comments stayed. Some jiggery pokery with the comment numbers?

[MarkLastname]

He gives Robby sexual favors in return for publishing his pre-written comment simultaneously with the links. Simplest explanation.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Sexiest, too.

[Citizen X]

"Terrible magazine. Not classy. Sad!"

[Rufus The Monocled]

Hello.

Looks like they removed the 'thumb up/down' option on that ridiculous celebrity video:

http://bit.ly/2hSir7k

It must have been that bad.

[Free Society]

I watched the video earlier, at the time of AM links this morning, it was about 2,100 likes and 27,000 dislikes.

[bacon-magic]

Same here but the dislikes were at 29,000. I became a tattle tale "hero of you tube" today and reported the video for infringing my rights.

[Free Society]

God bless you.

[bacon-magic]

Come on, I feel dirty enough already. *goes outside and chokes a hooker

[Free Society]

You monster. Have the decency to use a lead pipe.

[Lee Genes]

I don't take well to condescending patronizing from idiot actors.

[gaoxiaen]

Other than Martin Sheen, who are those people?

[Chipwooder]

Of the ones I recognize : James Cromwell and Bob Odenkirk are still working steadily. Debra Messing, no idea if she's been in anything since Will & Grace went off the air. Mike Farrell and Loretta Swit are known solely for a TV show that ended 33 years ago. No one's listened to Moby for at least a decade. BD Wong still does Law & Order, I guess?

The rest of them, your guess is as good as mine.

[Free Society]

Who was the woman with the giant mouth? It was so startling to see my heart skipped a beat. Looked like she had plastic surgery a few hundred times.

[Chipwooder]

Hah! That's Loretta Swit, Hotlips Houlihan from the TV version of M*A*S*H.

The guy after BD Wong looks almost exactly like Tony Romo, actually.

[Lee Genes]

Loretta Swit (Mash)

[Free Society]

Maybe she retrofitted her mouth to scoop up plankton from the ocean.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Wong was Dr. Strange on 'Gotham'.

[Lee Genes]

Good god, Loretta Swit is a plastic surgery disaster.

And I'm supposed to take advice from someone with that level of judgement?

[Free Society]

I've never seen one of these old women who get plastic surgery to look young not coming out looking like a total monster in the end. I guess that's the mark of good plastic surgery, when you can't tell it happened at all.

[Groovus Maximus]

There are two vital ingredients to successful and realistic looking plastic and reconstructive surgery, Freebie:

1) The overall health and quality of the patient's existing tissues that they want corrected, as well as their underlying structures and landmarks (this is variable with respect to ethnicity and racial demography - some stereotypes hold true medically). The ultimate modifier here, happens to be, age.

2) The skill of the surgeon, his knowledge base, and the quality of tools (and medical software, if applicable, dependent upon procedure).

Most old gals are terrible surgical candidates, and regardless of prognosis, will enter into a procedure for which they are poor candidates, where an average to superior, natural looking result is highly unlikely.

[Free Society]

Thank you, Dr Maximus. Good points.

I have to wonder if these old women so invested in their looks actually recognize how ugly they are after plastic surgery? So many of them keep going back for more and more surgery as if each one is an improvement upon their beauty, as though they look in the mirror and see something less hideous than they would see if they were looking at a face that was aging normally. I mean this truly, there is no female face any uglier than one that's undergone an excess of plastic surgery.

That woman who had her face and hands literally ripped off by a chimpanzee, that's what plastic surgery is for. She's still ugly as fuck, but compared to the previous fleshy crater she's looking much better.

[Tonio]

+1 Lillian Hellman in Brazil

[You ARE a Prog (MJG)]

Hah! Awesome.

[Trolleric the Goth]

those dicks.

[Clich? Bandit]

NEVER APOLOGIZE stupid schools

[kbolino]

Why is the district even apologizing for the behavior of students?

[Tonio]

Because otherwise they'd get sued. This is one of the few instances in which I am siding with a public skool.

[kbolino]

We live in a strange place where you can sue a school district because some students are dumbasses.

[esteve7]

I'm sure there's more in the story than that. But all progs care about is the white kid vs. black kid...

[Citizen X]

Only about 1,000 people have been evacuated from devastated East Aleppo.

Where?

[Libertarian]

It's okay. They're still in Syria.

[You ARE a Prog (MJG)]

The capital of East Syria.

[You ARE a Prog (MJG)]

*Correction: Damascus is the capital of East Syria.

[You ARE a Prog (MJG)]

**Correction: The country of East Syria does not exist.

[Crusty Juggler]

East Timor, however, does exist.

[Chipwooder]

We have always been at war with East Syria

[Curt]

I still can't name a single leader of East Aleppo that I admire.

[Yusef Adama]

Moe? Curly?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Some people are mad over reports that Ivanka Trump will be using workspace normally reserved for the First Lady.

Rotating first ladies.

[The Fusionist]

BILL CLINTON [Perking up]: "Now, why didn't *I* think of that?"

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

*Looks at Hilary's purse, sees the handle of The Geldinator poking out*

"Oh, right, that!"

[Groovus Maximus]

Ironically, that was William Weld's Hotmail Messenger handle to her during the campaign.

[jack sprat]

Nice

[straffinrun]

On a spit? Trump is quite the misogynist.

[esteve7]

How exactly is Trump 'unqualified'? There are exactly three qualifications for President, and he meets all three. I'm only 30, but was born here and in 2024 I will be qualified to run for President.

They are presenting their worthless opinion as fact.

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

He's a Republican. In a just world that would automatically disqualify him from being a President.

/Voxplained

[thrakkorzog]

Name one community he's organized.

[esteve7]

The They Took Our Jerbs Community?

[Zeb]

Well, there are the legal qualifications, and then there is the ability to actually do the job. I don't know if Trump is any more or less qualified in that way than anyone else.

If Bush and Obama managed not to burn the whole place down, I think Trump will probably manage.

[But Enough About Me]

If Bush and Obama managed not to burn the whole place down, I think Trump will probably manage.

Yep. I've told every one of my fellow Canucks that'll listen that Obama was living proof that anyone can indeed be President of the United States, and Trump's just proof that Obama wasn't a one-off.

On the other hand, I'm still trying to figure out just what the Hell Justin Trudeau's election proves, other than the old maxim "the average Canadian's not very bright, and half of them are even dumber than that."

[Eternal Blue Sky]

"How exactly is Trump 'unqualified'?"

EVERYONE knows he was really born in Kenya!! That birth certificate is a FAKE.

[Yusef Adama]

Kenya? Kanye? I sense a disturbance in the Farce...

[Lee Genes]

A textbook example of why intersectionalism is doomed to fail

2. 'We Need Unity'

This is another phrase that shows up as a fake show of solidarity. Unity's nice, but unfortunately, this particular sentiment is bullshit.

In mainstream feminism, the concept of uniting to support "women's issues" usually manifests as focus on white, middle class, cisgender, able-bodied women.

These days, the dominant narrative of how we should unite is what's known as "white feminism" (insert #NotAllWhiteFeminists disclaimer here).

Cat Young wrote for BattyMamzelle about what she means when she says "white feminism," describing it as "'one-size-fits all' feminism where middle class white women are the mould that others must fit."

The rest of us shouldn't have to set aside our own needs in the name of unity.

And stepping over marginalized voices to pursue a narrow vision of equality is not a cause worth uniting over.

[Juvenile Bluster]

HOW DID I KNOW THAT WOULD BE EVERYDAY FEMINISM

That site has to be satire. It has to be. My mind cannot accept otherwise.

[Tonio]

Not all parody is intentional. Unconscious self-parody is the cruellest and therefore funniest form of humor. Conscious self-parody can also be fun - like the Shat.

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

I want to believe the content is churned out by four white guys sitting at their homes, chuckling like mad while coming up with ever-more implausible biographies for their pen names.

[jack sprat]

Some of those names HAVE to be made up.

[Lee Genes]

The actual author of that article. (she's not lacking in the self-esteem department)

Some of what's been said about Maisha lately:
"Inspiring and brilliant young mind."
"Maisha has passion and vision and practical smarts, as well as a social conscience - all of it embedded in her writing rather than overlaid on it."
"I bet the Z stands for 'zex appeal.'"

"she is a water drop in a wind tunnel
the howling eye in an ink storm
a microphone submerged in a bathtub ..." -poet Sam Sax

[Mr. Flanders]

Obviously super-duper oppressed.

[Pro Libertate]

Damon Zex?

[Chipwooder]

"Poet"? That's the kind of shitty poetry 19 year olds write when they want to seem deep.

[Michael]

a microphone submerged in a bathtub

Say what?

[Yusef Adama]

ZAP!

[SugarFree]

Your underwater farts are so lovely.

[flye]

PLAY WHITE RABBIT!

[Lee Genes]

For some real humor, check out any of the alt-texts on EF articles.

[Citizen X]

Nuh uh, you're not tricking me into going to that site.

[Lee Genes]

In that case, I'll just have to bring the alt-text to Muhammad.

A frustrated person looking at their laptop with their hands on their temples.

Water drop pouring out of a plastic bottle on a blue background.

A person with long hair points and laughs at the viewer.

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

OK, I'll speak somewhat in their favor.

If that's the actual alt-text, they are one of the few places to use it correctly. The original intent of the tag was to put information about the image for people who can't see it (either they browsed with images off in the olden days, or they are relying on text-to-speech browsers due to eye problems).

But browsers decided to be cute with alt-text, so now it's used for shit posting. If I remember right, you are supposed to use the 'title' tag for that, leaving alt for helping blind people.

[Lee Genes]

It's straight from the stock photo descriptions that they're licensing. In the context of the presentation, it's actually pretty funny. It adds to the whole "we're a bunch of simpletons" aura.

[PapayaSF]

Those are perfect examples of what alt-text is supposed to be, to help visually-handicapped readers. You hater.

[Lee Genes]

Are you checking my privilege?

I THOUGHT THIS WAS A LIBERTARIAN SITE.

[Trshmnstr, Grump Apprentice]

"Turn your head and cough"

[gaoxiaen]

A frustrated person looking at their laptop with their hands on their temples.

Would.

[Citizen X]

Relevance and effectiveness are cishet patriarchal constructs!

[Clich? Bandit]

The Peoples Brazier Liberation Front disagrees.

[Playa Manhattan.]

Is "able-bodied" code for "not a fattie"?

[PapayaSF]

Being differently-abled comes in other forms, too. You hater.

[Juvenile Bluster]

RIP Craig Sager

[Rufus The Monocled]

Didn't realize he passed on.

[Gojira]

FUCK

I'm super depressed now : *(

I'm going to wear the most ridiculous suit I can rent this weekend in his honor.

[PapayaSF]

In other deaths: Bernard Fox.

[Rhywun]

I can't believe Dr. Bombay was still alive.

[Chipwooder]

Not a surprise, everyone knew he was on his way out, but depressing nonetheless. In a profession loaded with arrogance, preening, and condescention, Craig Sager was an island of humility and good humor.

Fun fact - he was one of the reporters at home plate when Hank Aaron hit his 715th homer.

http://tinyurl.com/j87os5c

[Fist of Etiquette]

Missouri school district issues apology after its students hold up Trump sign, then turn their backs on black basketball players during introductions.

Maybe they're amateur cheerleaders. Facing the crowd and holding signs.

[straffinrun]

Didn't cheerleaders turn their backs on Shawn Kemp, too?

[Injun, as in from India]

I can't open the page because I use Tor and Faux News blocks Tor clients.

Is it as bad as Fisher's summary calls it: straight-up racism?

[SIV]

The Warrensburg district's superintendent Scott Patrick said in an interview with the Star that the tradition of the student section turning its back on the opposing team is a longstanding one, but that this incident was different

The TRUMP sign is what made it not okay.

[waffles]

It seems like this Trump outrage machine is getting tired. Maybe I'm being too optimistic but shouldn't we save the outrage for when Trump actually violates the constitution? This petulant whining is why we got Trump in the first place. For fucks sakes people.

[Mad Scientist]

The left is determined to learn nothing from this.

[esteve7]

Or ever. See Venezuela, Cuba, The USSR, ...

[Tonio]

I think we're just experiencing a lull. There will be another surge on Monday when the EC votes, then a really big surge after the inaguration. Will be interesting to see how long they can keep that up.

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

If my memories of Bush Years serves me....12 years?

[Groovus Maximus]

And counting. Even American ex-pats I've run into in Euro-landia STILL blame BOOOOSH for everything that ill hath befallen.

[Injun, as in from India]

This petulant whining is why we got Trump in the first place.

I don't recall a whole lot of whining from the left or the right, with the exception a few, and the usual libertarian-ish crowd when Obama droned Al-Awlaki's kid. The left's going to remember civil liberties after an 8-year hiatus.

[John Titor]

Christmas lull, people are too busy with their actual lives to freak out sufficiently. Once January hits there will be more outrage until a total temper tantrum on the 20th.

[Pay up, Palin's Buttplug!]

Nope, they're just getting started...

The election results really should be invalidated, and the GOP leaders that supported this should be removed from power.

/u/----root, 278 points

At least millions of people are going to die because Trump was elected. That's not hyperbole, it's simply a fact.

/u/Yosarian2, 20 points

California's GDP is greater than than the bottom half of states combined:
Alabama, South Carolina, Kentucky, Oklahoma, Iowa, Utah, Kansas, Nevada, Arkansas, District of Columbia, Nebraska, Mississippi, New Mexico, Hawaii, New Hampshire, West Virginia, Delaware, Idaho, Rhode Island, Maine, Alaska, North Dakota, Montana, South Dakota, Wyoming, Vermont
Yet we are given less electoral votes *per person and we have to put up with the anti-science backwardsness and bigotry of the failing redstates. "Ever more perfect union" my ass.
I fail to see why we, the clear cultural leader and forefront of economy and innovation, should be held hostage by a few barren wastelands in between the rockies and mississippi.

/u/branamuffin, 3259 points

[Red Rocks Dickin Bimbos]

I fail to see why we, the clear cultural leader and forefront of economy and innovation, should be held hostage by a few barren wastelands in between the rockies and mississippi.

I wonder if these idiots realize that the nation's missile wings are located in red states.

[Trshmnstr, Grump Apprentice]

I fail to see why we, the clear cultural leader and forefront of economy and innovation, should be held hostage by a few barren wastelands in between the rockies and mississippi.

'cause we have all the guns, hun.

[The Other Kevin]

Only about 1,000 people have been evacuated from devastated East Aleppo.

Ah, the Lower East Aleppo. This really sucks.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Marijuana is legal in Massachusetts, as of today.

Jeff Sessions disagrees.

[Ted S.]

P?ivi Paunu, 1946-2016

Because I know how many of you love Finnish death metal.

[Ted S.]

Oh, and P?ivi is the woman in the above death metal duet. Here is another of her death metal classics, although it's not original to her.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

She's no Tarja.

[gaoxiaen]

Those were the days, my friend.

[Eternal Blue Sky]

East Mongolia does have some nice music.

[bacon-magic]

Spam reported.

[Ted S.]

Would you rather I started another abortion or circumcision thread?

[bacon-magic]

Yes. You didn't expect that answer did you? You eat deep dish pizza weekly.

[$park? is totally a Swifty]

Marijuana is legal in Massachusetts, as of today.

Legal to have, not yet legal to buy.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Facebook has announced new features to fight "fake news."

Couldn't possibly backfire.

[uncletom_1]

The Facebook link doesn't work.

[waffles]

It's fake news. Working as intended.

[The Other Kevin]

That's because it's a fake news article. See? It's working already.

[Kurmudgeonly Kristen]

Sheriff Joe keeps bringing the crazy. No idea he sent a staffer to HI to "investigate".

[Brochettaward = (((pants)))]

Obama doesn't have a birth certificate because he's a reptilian. We all know this.

[Citizen X]

Ok, where's his hatching certificate, then?

[Brochettaward = (((pants)))]

My hunch is somewhere at the reptilian capital located underneath Area 51's Sector Four.

[Yusef Adama]

Mr. Lizard to the White courtesy Phone....

[gaoxiaen]

He's about eight years late. What does he want, retroactive impeachment?

[Lee Genes]

Trump: The Embodiment of Racism

While we do, indeed, face a dire situation, this is not new. Trumpism is as American as apple pie. There could be no Donald Trump without America's first black president. Brother Van Jones got it right on election night: we experienced a "whitelash." And we must be clear: every stride toward freedom in U.S. history has been met with this same backlash.

[esteve7]

Only in the mind of a prog does counties voting for Obama twice then not voting for a white women == Whitelash

[Mr. Flanders]

"Backlash" is very close to blacklash. What are they trying to say here?

[Chipwooder]

I assumed this was another from Everyday Feminism. What an unexpected surprise!

"Brother" Van Jones....bahahahaha.

[Chipwooder]

I assumed this was another from Everyday Feminism. What an unexpected surprise!

"Brother" Van Jones....bahahahaha.

[Injun, as in from India]

Facebook has announced new features to fight "fake news."

Fake News outlets not hit hard:

NY Times
Washington Post
Rolling Stone

[esteve7]

All those ant-muslim attacks that happened after the election - not 'fake' news
Hands up don't shoot - not 'fake' news
Mattress Lady --- not 'fake' news

See?

[straffinrun]

I read in the NYT that Jason Blair had his hijab ripped off by John McCain's mistress as she screamed racist epithets.

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

Oh yay, election countdown in BC has officially started.

So, one of the reasons Canada is credited with escaping mortgage bubble meltdown is that, in order for your mortgage to be insured (and thus govt. be on hook for it, and you get a good deal on interest rate), you have to downpay 5% of the price (up to $500K, where it becomes 10% for portion over $500K).

Real estate in BC (specifically, Greater Vancouver Area) is very expensive.

Government to the rescue: B.C. offers interest-free loans up to $37,500 to first-time homebuyers.

The B.C. Home Owner Mortgage and Equity Partnership program will provide a maximum of $37,500 ? or up to 5 per cent of the purchase price ? with a 25-year loan that is interest-free and payment-free for the first five years.

"The dream of home ownership must remain in the grasp of the middle class here in British Columbia," said Premier Christy Clark.

The intention of the program is to assist people who can afford the mortgage payments on a new home but are challenged to make the down payment.

Literally, the "let's inflate the mortgage bubble" plan. Of note, this is the non-socialist party doing it.

[kbolino]

Is there a Canadian equivalent to the mortgage interest deduction?

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

Nope. Every government, provincial and federal, has held the line on that. Probably wise, too - all the deduction does is move money you'd pay in taxes into buying a more expensive house. With our welfare state being what it is, that'd be a double whammy of badness.

[But Enough About Me]

The Americans I've had this discussion with are always agog that most Canadians pay for their homes the old-fashioned way, by saving for them. The only way to avoid mortgage interest here is to pay off the principal as fast as possible. The spousal unit and I have bought three different houses this way; the longest we've ever waited to pay the mortgage off was four and a half years. Paid the latest one off in just over a year.

And yes, there were sacrifices in order to do that, but we're several hundred grand better off in terms of lifetime wealth acquisition. I don't wanna eat dog food in my retirement years.

[AceDroman]

"The intention of the program is to assist people who can afford the mortgage payments on a new home but are challenged to make the down payment."

So...being a little thrifty and saving for a few years is just so impossible?

[Kurmudgeonly Kristen]

Tweet about the state of martinis at the Trump Grill.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Dear God. That changes everything.

[Kurmudgeonly Kristen]

I know, right?

[Brochettaward = (((pants)))]

If you order a martini you deserve to have piss thrown in your face. There. I said it.

No one fucking cares about your olive, you nancies.

[thrakkorzog]

Damn, how do you screw up a martini that badly?

[mad.casual]

So, Anthony Podesta walks into a Trump Grill...

[gaoxiaen]

That's why you should always order tequila shots.

[lap83]

Josh Barro ?@jbarro 2h2 hours ago
@Olivianuzzi serves him right for ordering a vodka martini really

this^

[Rufus The Monocled]

A local CBS report about Obama's birth certificate being fake:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q1m487bijU

Thoughts?

[Aloysious]

It's not about TRUMP, therefore it doesn't matter.

[Brochettaward = (((pants)))]

I love how he starts with, "Oh my god. No one wants it." I totally want it.

But I still hold Obama is a reptilian - not an Ethiopian or wherever the fuck in Africa his biological father was from.

[Crusty Juggler]

Thoughts?

Let's go back in time and impeach him!

*Thrusts Doomcock decoder ring into the air*

[bacon-magic]

You stole my decoder ring!

[MarkLastname]

I don't think you want it back

[PapayaSF]

At the time it was released, I saw a very interesting analysis that said the PDF had numerous layers, far more than would exist if a paper document were simply scanned and converted to a PDF. I do not know enough about PDFs to judge, but it sounded like a valid criticism. I'm glad someone has followed up on it.

[Crusty Juggler]

Some people are mad over reports that Ivanka Trump will be using workspace

I don't see the issue with him letting his daughter and daughter-in-law work for him. He is a seventy-year-old man and he needs people he can trust. It's not like Valerie Jarrett and John Podesta are any better.

[Libertarian]

I think Trump is a buffoon, but he could walk on water tomorrow and the Left would criticize him for mocking Jesus.

[PapayaSF]

One form of the joke: walking on water proves he can't swim.

[mad.casual]

Dangerous disregard for long-standing Cuban immigration policy.

[You ARE a Prog (MJG)]

That's sacred workspace! For the very real position of First Lady! Only his spouse can use it!!

[Eternal Blue Sky]

I'm just surprised the First Lady even needs workspace.

[MarkLastname]

Yeah since when is a kitchen called a wrk space?

[bacon-magic]

Ivanka might as well be the first lady. I think Melania wants nothing to do with being mocked for 4-8 years. What's sad is if Trump was a Dem the Media would be having fangasms on how hot and classy(European) she is.

[Red Rocks Dickin Bimbos]

Yeah, by my reckoning Melania seems to hate dealing with the press and has been perfectly satisfied being a mother and the trophy wife of a filthy rich real estate hustler. Ivanka, on the other hand, appears to be a legitimate hardass and can probably handle being in the spotlight a lot more than her stepmom.

[bacon-magic]

Ivanka might be a Presidential candidate someday...I would and wood unashamedly.

[mad.casual]

It has been foreseen.

[ant1sthenes]

A PILF?

[lafe.long]

California's Governor Just Launched A Warning Shot To Trump In Fiery Address

Governor Brown vows to deploy its lawyers, its scientists and "its own damn satellites" if necessary to protect the climate.

[I can't even]

It must be awesome to have an unlimited budget. Obviously a state that needs zero federal assistance.

[Pay up, Palin's Buttplug!]

Brown's got a supermajority in the state legislature? he can do anything he wants.

[esteve7]

Amazing that the left thinks about states rights the moment they lost all federal power

[Injun, as in from India]

"its own damn satellites"

Yeah, right. Try that one, Moonbeam.

[Brett L]

Right. As soon as they figure out how to pay all the pensions they already can't afford.

[thrakkorzog]

Maybe you should figure out how to build a railroad before trying to launch satellites.

[Kurmudgeonly Kristen]

Cop on "paid leave" and arrested for home invasion for kicking down ex's door to threaten her. In uniform.

[Juvenile Bluster]

Aw c'mon Kristen. Surely any other person would receive the same. There's no double standard.

[Injun, as in from India]

The poor guy was probably sex starved and needed some.

[Clich? Bandit]

Hey KK, you skiing CO this year?

Fam and I are doing 9 days at copper again, kid is in school for both two skids and one skid.

[Kurmudgeonly Kristen]

I am! Copper Feb 4-11! When are you heading there?

[Kurmudgeonly Kristen]

Also, I'm bring my neighbor. She has never even remotely come close to skiing in any way shape or form before. Should be....interesting.

I'm getting her an adult group lesson.

[jack sprat]

Oh the euphemisms

[MarkLastname]

Remember, pizza, French fries, or your gonna have a bad time.

[bacon-magic]

^SkiGate
Keep talking in code, we all know what you're doing! *smug lascivious smile

[DOOMco]

im usually there on the weekends, although this winter i might be at eldora more.

[Kurmudgeonly Kristen]

Let me know if you're there Feb 4 or 5 - we will be acclimatizing (not skiing), but would be up for apres ski.

[DOOMco]

absolutely!

[Eternal Blue Sky]

Well thank Allah he had his uniform on, otherwise we wouldn't have even gotten the arrest.

[Brett L]

"It was an accident."

That's his story. He accidentally kicked down her door. He was just so frustrated about the goddamn war in Syria and that sonofabitch Trump.

I woulda gone Marion Barry, myself.

[Injun, as in from India]

"It was an accident."

Just like a toddler wetting himself.

[Kurmudgeonly Kristen]

The article says he only became a cop in March. I'm thinking he probably became a cop solely to get away with shit like this.

[MarkLastname]

Someone should've told him you can just buy the uniform on amazon.

[Crusty Juggler]

U.S. Faces Tall Hurdles in Detaining or Deterring Russian Hackers

The United States has few options for responding to such hacks. Russia does not extradite its citizens and has shown that it will not easily be deterred through public shaming. At times, the American authorities have enlisted local police officials to arrest suspects when they leave Russia ? for vacation in the Maldives, for example. But more often than not, the F.B.I. and Justice Department investigate and compile accusations and evidence against people who will almost certainly never stand trial.

"You can indict 400 people. They don't care," said Robert E. Anderson Jr., who until last year served as the F.B.I.'s most senior executive overseeing computer investigations.

Solution: re-start Treadstone.

[Lee Genes]

As a nation we're losing our collective shit because some technology ignorant asshole fell for an obvious phishing email.

I'm embarrassed.

[Brochettaward = (((pants)))]

Meanwhile, Wikileaks has gotten as specific about where they got those documents without naming names. But I should trust anonymous sources ('American officials') who are relaying what a secret CIA report believes is true.

[Injun, as in from India]

Don't forget the leak about the secret tarmac meeting between Loretta Lynch and Bill Clinton. If I recall correctly, that was done by a DoJ insider.

[Brochettaward = (((pants)))]

A meeting so innocent that they barred the press from photographing or mentioning it, if I recall correctly. Who could forget?

[Yusef Adama]

? what is this Treadstone?

[DOOMco]

you wish.
/blackbriar

[Yusef Adama]

Mr. D really, What is this thing/

[DOOMco]

*shrugs*

[Brett L]

I'll post this under possibly really good news, but taken with a large grain of salt. Autism linked to Vitamin D deficiency in pregnancy. If true, its going to make a lot of women really sad. The whole "vaccines cause autism" was seized on and run with by parents (mostly mothers) who had tried really hard to be perfect incubators and parents and wanted it to be someone else's fault. How crushing will this be to them if true? But on the really good side, obviously a simple prescription to take more sun without sunblock, drink whole milk and eat eggs and fish, plus a higher dose in multivitamins (not the best way, but a way) could destroy 95% of autism cases.

[Lee Genes]

While this will be good news for some, autism is a spectrum disorder and a description of symptoms more so than a diagnosis. There usually isn't just one thing going on.

[Rat]

Yep. Some cases are probably genetic. I'm HFA as is my son. My sister and daughter are normal.

[Crusty Juggler]

I hope it's true.

drink whole milk and eat eggs and fish

What about soy and/or almond milk?!?!??!

Cage free, right? RIGHT?

Fish? Yeah right, not with how polluted the war is. Plus, mercury.

[Playa Manhattan.]

Unfortunately, a lot of those foods trigger morning sickness. My wife couldn't be in the same room as eggs for the first 3 months.

[Brett L]

Good point.

[Playa Manhattan.]

You know, I'd be curious if they were able to establish a link to morning sickness too...

[Ted S.]

You did remind her that she had a whole bunch of eggs right in her body, right?

[SIV]

If true this could lead to a 'sperg holocaust.

[RAHeinlein]

Not having children at age 40 could destroy 99% of autism cases...

[mad.casual]

I'd love to see that data. Everything I've seen shows marginal differences. My favorite is where they find a correlation with maternal age that's overwhelmed by the correlation with paternal age and then talk about fetal development like pure bullshit isn't pouring forth from their keyboards.

[The Fusionist]

"Corpus Christi [Texas] - A Nueces County jury has delivered a not guilty verdict in a case where a man accused of shooting three CCPD SWAT officers.

"Ray Rosas was found to be not guilty in a shooting that happened February 19th, 2015. Police were serving a warrant at his home on Churchill Drive when they say he opened fire and shot three officers....

"The defense argued Rosas did not know he was firing at police, after SWAT actions were not carried out simultaneously and he was disoriented by a flash-bang grenade going off in his bedroom. "

[Brett L]

Holy shit.

[Jimbo]

The Missouri school story seems bad until they tell you it's a tradition. It was that EVIL Trump sign that turned it nefarious, since I guess Trump wants to deport blacks? Or something?

[Free Society]

Yeah you gotta use HTML quotes to grab people's attention. At the very least, we commentarians need bright orange links or maybe some boldface print before we'll read.

[lafe.long]

This Political Theorist Predicted the Rise of Trumpism. His Name Was Hunter S. Thompson.

What made that outcome almost certain, Thompson thought, was the obliviousness of Berkeley, California, types who, from the safety of their cocktail parties, imagined that they understood and represented the downtrodden. The Berkeley types, Thompson thought, were not going to realize how presumptuous they had been until the downtrodden broke into one of those cocktail parties and embarked on a campaign of rape, pillage, and slaughter. For Thompson, the Angels weren't important because they heralded a new movement of cultural hedonism, but because they were the advance guard for a new kind of right-wing politics. As Thompson presciently wrote in the Nation piece he later expanded on in Hell's Angels, that kind of politics is "nearly impossible to deal with" using reason or empathy or awareness-raising or any of the other favorite tools of the left.

[John Titor]

Nothing like decrying the obliviousness of 'Berkeley types' and then proceeding to dehumanize your opponents into an irrational violent mob incapable of reason.

[AlmightyJB]

Yeah, the Hell's Angels definately fit that profile but the idea that you can extrapolate their ethics to the rest of of the "downtrodden" is idiotic at best. I did think the article made a few good points. I do think a lot of Trump's appeal has a retaliatory revanchist component. I also agree that some of the Nazi symbolism coming from some quadrants if the"alt-right" is nothing more than trolling the left which the article alludes to. You just can't get from Hell's Angels to Trump being elected. That's beyond a stretch.

[KerryW]

The left using reason? Please.

[gaoxiaen]

Sonny Barger for President (of the USA)?

[ant1sthenes]

As Thompson presciently wrote in the Nation piece he later expanded on in Hell's Angels, that kind of politics is "nearly impossible to deal with" using reason or empathy or awareness-raising or any of bullshit and whining, the other favorite only tools of the left.

FTFY

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

Eric S Raymond, the open-source icon and a staunch gun-nut of Libertarian persuasion adds to the chorus of what Democrats should do.

the country needs you to get your act together. Yes, ideally I personally would prefer your place in the two-party Duverger equilibrium to be taken by the Libertarian Party, but there are practical reasons this is extremely unlikely to happen. The other minor parties are even more doomed. If the Republicans are going to have a counterpoise, it has to be you Democrats.
...
Here's what I've been building up to:

You Democrats don't just need to reform your gun policy, you need to reform your attitude towards the voters to a place from which your present policy looks as vicious and absurd as it does to them.

You Democrats don't just need to reform your rhetoric about racism and sexism, you need to reform your attitude towards the voters to a place from which your present rhetoric looks as vicious and absurd as it does to them.

It's all of a piece. You've forgotten how to be the party of the people. Trump was the price of that forgetfulness. Now, you need to relearn it, for all our sakes.

The alternative is that something like the Republicans, or possibly worse, dominates American politics for the foreseeable future. I don't want that, and you should fear it more than I do.

[Brochettaward = (((pants)))]

Democrats have nothing to offer libertarians besides as obstructionists. Unfortunately, they're more likely to obstruct the few libertarian things Trump wants to do.

[Injun, as in from India]

They won't get it. Expect more doubling down.

[Rufus The Monocled]

They won't get it because they can't believe and accept people don't understand what's best for them and what's best for them is what the progs present.

[GILMORE?]

I read that piece last night. Excellent - worth reading twice.

[Rhywun]

Good stuff. I really need to stop confusing him with Richard Stallman.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

?Only about 1,000 people have been evacuated from devastated East Aleppo.

Damn, just when the Al-Jeffersons had finally succeeded in movin' on up to the East Side.

[CPRM]

For all the effort Sugerfree puts in to entertaining us, I thought I'd do a little something.

[Eternal Blue Sky]

*reads url*

Not clicking that at work...

[Crusty Juggler]

Porn fiction has a cover? Oh no...

Good work!

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

Are you not familiar with works of one Chuck Tingle?

Of course they have covers.

Disclaimer: you may want to use private browsing, or at least not be logged into your Amazon account, when you follow said links.

[Crusty Juggler]

I am aware of the good Doctor, thank you.

[gaoxiaen]

I hate to use this, "butt" LOL.

[GILMORE?]

No comment other than you have an interesting spelling of the word "Sugar"

[GILMORE?]

Other comment = warty needs a beard, and i feel like his jock isn't prominent enough

[CPRM]

you can't go full doom cock on the cover.

[Crusty Juggler]

its porn ficshun fer retarts, an retarts cant spill.

[SugarFree]

It's fucking gorgeous. Thank you.

[SugarFree]

Chapter Four is up, in case anyone missed it in the morning links.

If you don't mind, CRPM, I'd like to put that on the Warty Hugeman blog as the cover art for the story.

[CPRM]

put the new one I just posted below.

[SugarFree]

The image is up if anyone wants to take a look.

[CPRM]

fixed the spelling and moved text to get more crotch exposure, added trimmed beard. I aim to please.

[GILMORE?]

Striking! it really does things the other one didn't. the nazi-eyed girl seems to be staring at his more-prominent crotch, and his beard suggests uncontrollable hormone imbalance. Well done.

[SugarFree]

Mmm... crotchy...

[OneOut]

Who's crotch ? The chicks ?

Is that a massive camel toe ?

[Jimbo]

Love it!

[bacon-magic]

Good job! Needs moar boobz tho...

[Clich? Bandit]

sold

[straffinrun]

So this is what P.M. lynx looks like? Not impressed.

[Free Society]

Missouri school district issues apology after its students hold up Trump sign, then turn their backs on black basketball players during introductions.

The Warrensburg district's superintendent Scott Patrick said in an interview with the Star that the tradition of the student section turning its back on the opposing team is a longstanding one, but that this incident was different.

"I think in this case, (the Trump sign) was really the difference in what took this from something that was unsportsmanlike to something that was insensitive, not necessary and inappropriate," Patrick said.

So this is a longstanding tradition at this school to turn their backs on the opposing team but apparently the presence of a Trump sign turned it into a white power rally.

And who could possibly think the left and it's media mouthpieces are hyperbolic and can't be trusted?

[Eternal Blue Sky]

The media's really starting to sell me on the point about how we need to address fake news.

[Free Society]

No shit. If it wasn't so utterly frustrating to hear, I would have been laughing my ass off to hear NBC, NB-FUCKING-C, cry about the scourge of "fake news". This lack of self-awareness of a news organization that literally edits interviews and 911 calls for political purposes, is something to marvel at.

[straffinrun]

Longstanding tradition or not, it is known what they were thinking in this case. Totally different.

[Free Society]

huh?

[Jimbo]

It's called sarcasm/joking.

[straffinrun]

Jimbo gets me. He really does.

[Free Society]

How do you know he's not being sardonic smart guy?

[straffinrun]

He? He?! My preferred pronoun is "pronoun".

[Free Society]

I feel like you and I have grown apart. When this is all over, we should get an apartment together.

[straffinrun]

In Ohio? Uhhh....

[Free Society]

All the corn you can eat!

[Jimbo]

Oh, I get it. I post this at 4:47 PM, but I guess I still don't know the secret password or something.
*runs off sobbing*

[PapayaSF]

This is similar to how anti-Trump graffiti with a swastika becomes a hate crime against minorities.

[cavalier973]

Some people are mad over reports that Ivanka Trump will be using workspace normally reserved for the First Lady. Trump's spokesperson denies the reports.

The only solution to this important problem is to have Melania and Ivanka mud-wrestle for the right to use the FLOTUS office each week.

[AlmightyJB]

I'll take the winner, and the loser.

[But Enough About Me]

Naked. You forgot "naked."

[AlmightyJB]

We all pictured it that way. Except for Crusty.

[B.P.]

"Marijuana is legal in Massachusetts, as of today."

*Looks out window onto East Colfax Ave., Denver*

Okay wandering masses shouldering giant backpacks, you can go home now.

[straffinrun]

Can't we just go to Pete's Diner? I want some eggs.

[B.P.]

I'm not drunk yet.

[True Scottsman]

I'll go to Pete's Diner with you, best damn smothered burritos anywhere.

[straffinrun]

Wasn't sure they were even still in business. Haven't been there in decades. Good news!

[Crusty Juggler]

Are you anti-hipster bro? What do you have against squatting and football?

I've been told the bearded hipster-bro dominates Denver's hipster movement.

[DOOMco]

we do.

[DOOMco]

my favorite is the guy who gets as much candy as he can legally purchase, and then drive off in the var with Illinois or kansas plates.

[gaoxiaen]

Just wait till summer.

[But Enough About Me]

Facebook has announced new features to fight "fake news."

Facederp's shutting down?

AWESOME! LIBERTARIAN MOMENT!!!

(I keed, I keed ? there's nothing Libertarian about it.)

[B.P.]

"Donald Trump seems to be mad about Vanity Fair's negative review of Trump Grill."

I'm sure Trump Grill is a perfectly shitty restaurant, but the Vanity Fair article's strident attempts at humorous barbs were painful.

[Crusty Juggler]

the Vanity Fair article's strident attempts at humorous barbs were painful.

Yes. My guess as to why: they suck.

[Ken Shultz]

That article comes across like when your girlfriend is mad at you,

When she's mad at you, she doesn't like your house, the way you decorated, or where it is. When she's made, she also doesn't like your car or the way you dress.

She doesn't like your friends, she doesn't like your dog, the way you talk, she doesn't like your food, and she doesn't like your favorite restaurant.

Say, "Okay, we'll go to your Mom's house for Christmas", and it all goes away.

Trump can't go to all their Moms' houses for Christmas, so they'll just keep hating on his restaurants, his cars, and especially his haircut. God, they hate his haircut!

[Chipwooder]

It reminds me of the NYT review of Guy Fieri's restaurant - I don't doubt that the joint is terrible, but the review was such a relentless assault of snark and condescension that it actually made me feel sorry for Fieri and hope that his place succeeded.

[Ken Shultz]

"Facebook has announced new features to fight "fake news."

Twitter is for trolls, lazy journalists, and the celebrities they cover.

YouTube commenters are psychopaths.

Facebook is for retards.

[waffles]

I've got the trifecta!

[cavalier973]

Lazy Psychopathic Retards needs a drummer.

[GILMORE?]

Well i wasn't worried before... BUT...

US Sen Warren "100% Concerned" about Russian Hacking

Her previous comments about the content of the DNC emails were slightly different =

U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Warren is calling the Democratic National Committee's email scandal an "embarrassment to the nation" after leaks showed the party actively ?favoring Hillary Clinton over Bernie Sanders, and adds she was flummoxed by Clinton bringing the DNC chief who resigned in disgrace into her campaign.

[Mazakon]

Trump met with Judge Napolitano to discuss SCOTUS

Judge Andrew Napolitano met with President-elect Donald Trump about the Supreme Court vacancy following the death of Justice Antonin Scalia earlier this year. Napolitano spoke with Fox Business Network's Stuart Varney on his meeting with Trump.

"He was interested in a broad range of ideas and attitudes about the type of person who would best fill Justice Scalia's seat," Napolitano told Varney.

Napolitano spent an entire hour with Trump this morning discussing everything from the DOW to the qualities of a Justice Scalia replacement.

[Free Society]

The Judge for Justice! His written dissents will feature a long series of "what if" questions.

[GILMORE?]

I imagine Trump was like, "he's the italian one, right? We need one of those. great people!"

[Red Rocks Dickin Bimbos]

"I love the dagoes!"

[Chipwooder]

Not gonna lie - that picture makes me want one of those disgustingly fattening taco salads.

[waffles]

The unedited transcript of my drunk interview with Milo Yiannopoulos.

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

OK, I give up and will report to my nearest Canadian Government Multi-Cultural Reeducation Center, because I've clearly gone off the deep end.

I read the [UNMENTIONABLE]'s intro. Then I read the transcript. I read it again, and still think Milo came off as a clear winner in the exchange. No, I don't agree with his solution. No, he sounds perfectly rational to me when he outlays the problems. And the intro seems to as be divorced from the reality of the interview as possible without being 4chan-style randomLULZ.

[waffles]

There some cocktail parties rationalizations for sure. We live in strange times. What a total eclipse this election has been.

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

She doesn't even nail him on the easiest, simplest point where he says something factually incorrect

And a points-based system like Australia has zero Islamic racial immigration

Utter. Fucking. Nonsense.

[Free Society]

It seems like whatever the solution is to the problem of the Muslim invasion of the west, it's not going to be pleasant and it's not going to seem very libertarian. For starters, the Italian coast guard should fire some live rounds into the next couple boats trying to come ashore. Yes it sounds callous, but then you can sit back and enjoy the lack of Muslim boat people drowning at sea every other week and hell maybe even fewer gang rapes of European women and children while we're at it.

[american socialist]

Yay. Libertarianism at its finest. Police firing into boats filled with desperate people fleeing the armed gangs that were enabled by the illegal occupation of the ME by rich Western nations. The supremacy of White Nationalist thinking is just so fucking self-evident!

[Free Society]

Border guards firing into boats of those with no legal basis for entry. It is that simple.

[OneOut]

Desperate people plus the one fake Egyptian with the drowned baby who's father told him to immigrate to Europe so he could get free dental care for his rotten teeth.

YEAH. War Refugees , one and all.

Why did most leave all their women and families behind to starve and be killed in the war zone ?

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

To be fair, those who actually come from Syria

a) they left their families in refugee camps in Jordan and Turkey. Yes, that means by conventions they have no right to claim refugee status in Greece, let alone Germany. But fuck rule of law when it comes to Special People.

b) they certainly intend to bring them over as soon as possible. So that 1.8 million or whatever number is gonna blow up, unless they are not allowed to bring them. Which would mean a whole lot of Angry Special People getting angrier.

[Wasteland Wanderer]

Yay, a fucking moronic socialist taking a self-described completely unlibertarian stance and proclaiming it's libertarianism at it's finest.

Tell me, amsoc, just why do you keep eating the lead paint? It can't taste that good...

[Buddy Bizarre]

Lead paint is delicious! Just ask the Romans who used lead to sweeten their wine.

[Brochettaward = (((pants)))]

Milo isn't a libertarian. I don't get the argument. Should I hate the guy because of that? Does it mean he doesn't make good points? Or that I have to agree with everything he does and says? The answer is no. Overall, I view him as a positive force and entertaining albeit disingenuous.

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

And best of all, after being hosted by Young Americans for Liberty University of Wisconsin Milwaukee, he allegedly used a photo of a trans woman and named her and mocked her in front of an audience. Yeah, she might be a liberal, so no doubt libertarians disagree with some of her goals and expectations. But yeah, she had the audacity to want to use the locker room of her identity at her college. Yeah, she noted the contradiction in policing that? if you're female-identified, are growing breasts, but still have a penis, where would they like you to change? Male locker room? Female? A broom closet? Far away from the scared, scared administrators?

Literally second coming of Hitler. What does it have to do with the interview? Nothing. But SHE HATES HIM SO MUCH!!!!!!

BTW, [UNMENTIONABLE], when proggies were shitting on me, where were you? Let's search your blog...

No results for "gamergate"

Well then.

[Brochettaward = (((pants)))]

I was never in Gamergate. I don't know the specifics of whatever Milo said about this specific individual. If it was as written, I'd probably disagree with it, but it still wouldn't be enough to hate him for me. I don't know. I'm just not cosmo enough.

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

I wasn't "in it" but Milo was the one who brought out the fact that, oh yes, video game journalists have their own mail list, they are using to coordinate talking points and the talking points are there to drive the progressive values into the industry, fuck what gamers want (culmination being a slew of "Gamers don't have to be your audience" articles that showed up on bunch of sites within 72 hours of each other).

And I'm not asking for impossible - a Reason female libertarian contributor is capable of not shitting on me.

[John Titor]

The constant throwing around of the term 'sociopath' in regards to actions like this doesn't work either. This is not the action of a sociopath, this is the action of a dick.

To be fair Gamergate got very stupid very fast.

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

Yeah, but fuck it, it put progs on the defensive. From comments on Eric S Raymond's post on alt-right.

It's been my opinion that the alt-right basically started gaining traction as a thing as the progressive Social Justice Warriors began seeking to expand their influence into new areas, such as science fiction (see: the circumstances leading up to Sad/Rabid Puppies), video games (see: Gamergate), open-source software development (see: this post by Our Host), and even heavy-metal music (see: this description of "Metalgate"). Clearly, they'd like to see their brand of political correctness spread everywhere.

"Always leave your opponent a line of retreat?unless you want a fight to the death." The SJWs don't want to leave any lines of retreat. Consequently, it seems inevitable that a group of people, drawing from some of the same groups reacting to the above developments, would decide to band together and proclaim, "If it's war they want, then war they shall have!"

[John Titor]

It put the social justice crowd on the defensive, not the progressives. Gamergate was filled with "I'm a liberal and I want government to take care of me but these people are annoying and control freaks" types. The alt-right (again I speak of the the Taylor-Spencer types, not the vague "anything we don't like" definition) have existed since at least the Bush administration online, and they haven't gained 'traction' so much as 'attention'. Sure, they're getting a few free keyboard warriors from the attention, but a lot of these people are young and likely to distance themselves as they get older. To be a Hegelian asshole, social justice is the thesis, alt-right is the antithesis, and they feed off each other's controversy like social parasites.

[John Titor]

It doesn't help that she sells the exchange as "proof of how unlibertarian he is" and then the discussion quickly starts off with Milo bitching about how worthless the TSA and Department of Education are.

[Brochettaward = (((pants)))]

The cosmos tend to prioritize the social acceptance part of libertarianism over all else. Milo is smart, despite her criticisms. He knows how to speak to his audience.

I think libertarians need allies, even if temporary, wherever they find them. I think most cosmos are very eager to get on board with that notion when its some leftward leaning cause. Less so the other way.

[GILMORE?]

It doesn't help that she sells the exchange as "proof of how unlibertarian he is"

Being libertarian is all about being outraged when people say impolitic things about fat people, trannies, and jihadists, duh.

[GILMORE?]

*finally getting around to reading this

A first thought = i've read 2 or 3 things recently where people have written "non-complimentary introductions" of their subject BEFORE actually getting into the details of the interview.

And i don't mean the standard "this person is considered controversial by many for reasons such as X and Y"...

..I mean more of the, "I don't like this person, and here's the conclusion you should draw about them before you actually hear what they have to say" - possibly because they didn't actually come off as much of a total-shit as the interviewer might have liked?

It sets up a dynamic where subsequently interpret all the interviewers questions as implicitly hostile. You can't then just dive into the Q+A with an open mind - you're specifically searching for confirmation of the thesis that's just been presented = "this person is a dickhead and fundamentally dishonest"

I think its bad form, whatever one might think of Milo.

[Trshmnstr, Grump Apprentice]

Agreed, it colors the reader's perception of the exchange. It actually makes Milo more sympathetic because it plays into his "troll the outraged" persona.

[GILMORE?]

RIP Craig Sager

While I was never much of a fan of his sideline-interviews, his ... unique... taste in sportcoats inspired me to devote myself to curing others of this preventable condition

related =

Irishman Dies of Stubborness, Whiskey

[Ted S.]

I get a privacy error.

[GILMORE?]

oh, sorry. the reuters link shouldn't have an "S" after the http

there was a 3rd link which i deleted. it was an attempt to make them all fit.

here

[Crusty Juggler]

Beautiful.

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

Anyone else fighting ALS and stage 4 pancreatic cancer would have gone quietly into the night, but Connors was stark naked drinking Veuve in a house full of friends and family as Al Green played from the speakers. -

Fucking hell, what a man. Mr Bear Odinsson, please tell me there's a Valhalla loophole for dying in combat against forces of mediocrity!

[The Late P Brooks]

For Thompson, the Angels weren't important because they heralded a new movement of cultural hedonism, but because they were the advance guard for a new kind of right-wing politics. As Thompson presciently wrote in the Nation piece he later expanded on in Hell's Angels, that kind of politics is "nearly impossible to deal with" using reason or empathy or awareness-raising or any of the other favorite tools of the left.

I read the Hell's Angels book a long, long time ago, but I do not recall any of that
right wing politics" crap. The Angels were a bunch of deranged one-per-centers who didn't give a flying fuck about the Berkley chin-strokers or their limousine liberalism.

[Free Society]

"nearly impossible to deal with" using reason or empathy or awareness-raising or any of the other favorite tools of the left.

Since fucking when does "reason" feature among the left's favorite tools?

[american socialist]

BUILD DUH WALL!!!

[Free Society]

^case in point

[american socialist]

I don't really care because failed nation states aren't my bag, but shouldn't electors protect us from the mob who has been unduly influenced by a demogogic cretin? ITS A REPUBLIC, NOT A DEMOCRACY!!!

[kbolino]

I don't really care

At this point I am convinced you don't know what the word "care" even means.

[kbolino]

Other words/phrases whose meanings elude amsoc:

- failed
- nation-state
- the mob
- unduly
- influenced
- republic
- democracy

[Free Society]

-demogogic
-cretin
-bag
-protect
-the

[american socialist]

American democracy is the God that failed. I'm in favor of an enlightened clique of a few individuals that will make the right choices for the unwashed masses.

[Free Society]

Someone's been reading the covers of books!

[american socialist]

How come when I even start to scratch the surface of the weak tinpot ideologues you guys promote I find out that they ?? People like David Duke? WHITE POWER!

[kbolino]

How come when you say stupid shit people call you an idiot?

Mysteries of the universe.

[kbolino]

And how will this "enlightened clique" be chosen, exactly?

[american socialist]

Oh, I'm in favor of a rule by enlightened pale O'Conner stove ideologues who will talk about libertarianism and how we need to deport people who don't believe in Western values.

[american socialist]

It was paleoconservatives, but pale O'Connor stove ideologues will work too. As long as their for property rights and plutocracy it's all good with me.

[kbolino]

plutocracy

What, like the DNC handing out political favors to the biggest donors?

[kbolino]

I don't speak moron, do you have that in English?

[american socialist]

It's a spectator sport at this point. I'm wondering what will happen first: a.) the technological singularity or b.) the day White working class people realize class consciousness

[kbolino]

the day White working class people realize class consciousness

I too yearn for the day when hackneyed political gibberish is used as the justification to usher in violent and despotic regimes.

[Mad Scientist]

White men! White women! The Jew is using the black as muscle against you. And you are left there helpless. Well, what are you going to do about it, whitey? Just sit there? Of course not. You are going to join with us. The members of the American Socialist White People's party. An organization of decent, law-abiding white folk. Just like you.

[bacon-magic]

Socialism is embraced in other countries. Find one and go there.

[kbolino]

"embraced" is a strong word, "imposed" might be more accurate

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

You can do both. Ask STEVE SMITH...

[GILMORE?]

Jesus, Peanuts, and Assholes

Republican Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton filed legal papers against a school district on Thursday over its refusal to allow a nurse's aide to display a poster featuring a Christian message from the holiday television cartoon "A Charlie Brown Christmas."

Paxton, a conservative Christian, said the Killeen Independent School District had unlawfully stamped out religious expression when it banned the poster from a middle school earlier this month, and his office intervened on behalf of the nurse's aide to ask a state district court judge to find the district at fault

*Footnote = in my majority-jewish high-school of the early 1990s, they put up St Patrick's Day decorations in the school cafeteria. There was a leprechaun over the front door, with a bubble coming out of its mouth, stating "Mazel Tov!"

[But Enough About Me]

That's awesome.

[Brochettaward = (((pants)))]

If Killeen, Texas, has been lost to political correctness...we're doomed.*

*Did not read much of the comment, let alone the article.

[The Late P Brooks]

There was a leprechaun over the front door, with a bubble coming out of its mouth, stating "Mazel Tov!"

A veritable maelstrom of cultural appropriation. I'm surprised the Earth did not open up and engulf you.

[The Fusionist]

It makes sense - he's jealously guarding a pot of gold, after all.

[The Fusionist]

/sarc

[Free Society]

I want to live in a society where sarc tags on mildly offensive jokes aren't seen to be necessary. Make your Jew jokes with dignity, I say.

[DOOMco]

caught i puck last night. picked up might be more accurate. my dad also called and told me i was on tv.

i was wondering why we still insist on singing the anthem at the beginning of a sport. 90% of these guys are Canadian anyway. seems odd.

[DOOMco]

caught i puck last night. picked up might be more accurate. my dad also called and told me i was on tv.

i was wondering why we still insist on singing the anthem at the beginning of a sport. 90% of these guys are Canadian anyway. seems odd.

[Brochettaward = (((pants)))]

Because Canada is just a province of America.

[DOOMco]

+1 hat

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

Do they not also sing "Oh, Canada"? I am on the verge of writing a strongly-worded but polite letter!

And US anthem is remarkably non-jingoistic compared to others, so why not?

[DOOMco]

they did not. i think they do that when a Canadian team is in town.
it does not offend me. i just was thinking about it.

[american socialist]

I want to shoot up some immigrants and call myself a libertarian.

[Brochettaward = (((pants)))]

Makes TOTAL SENSE, you commie shitbag!

There. Did you get the attention you wanted?

[kbolino]

Look, he's just following the example of... literally no one. But hey, the caricature exists in his head, so it must be right. Acting like a 3-year-old who was denied a toy in the toy store is rational, right?

[american socialist]

No, I got the idea about ten posts up. Here...

Free Society|12.15.16 @ 6:02PM|#

It seems like whatever the solution is to the problem of the Muslim invasion of the west, it's not going to be pleasant and it's not going to seem very libertarian. For starters, the Italian coast guard should fire some live rounds into the next couple boats trying to come ashore. Yes it sounds callous, but then you can sit back and enjoy the lack of Muslim boat people drowning at sea every other week and hell maybe even fewer gang rapes of European women and children while we're at it.

[Free Society]

Yeah if there were fewer people needlessly drowning at sea, I'd say that's a good thing.

[american socialist]

Rule by libertarianism sure seems to involve a lot of police and guns... police to shoot immigrants, soldiers to fight wars against Islamists, police to keep the poors off our propertay

[kbolino]

police to keep the poors off our propertay

How many impoverished individuals have you opened up your mortgage-shirking house to, amsoc?

[kbolino]

Yes, libertarianism is defined by the things that people explicitly say aren't very libertarian.

[kbolino]

Weak. It's like you're not even trying. It's just one fucking election, stop being such a pathetic loser.

[american socialist]

You think my problems with this Evil Empire that has thousands of nuclear weapons that could kill a couple billion people in an afternoon started with Trump? Read some recent history... Vietnam, Central America, Iraq. Another generation another war criminal willing to lead the flock. Do they have this problem-- you know, murderous impulses that lead to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people-- in other Western European countries?

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

Still not sure why you contribute to that Evil Empire when Western Europe seems much more your speed. Sweden, Netherlands and Norway have high levels of English proficiency, so your monolingual ignorance won't be an obstacle, either.

[american socialist]

Sounds good to me.

Hey, why do you think the responses below include things like the Napoleonic Wars? I'm talking about the superiority of the modern Western European Welfare state not Sweden circa 1811.

Why can't we as libertarians admit that shooting immigrants and spending hundreds of billions of dollars on the military are activities best left to our enemies-- fascists and militarists?

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

Because history matters? You'll have to learn that if you go to Europe.

Real history, too. Where 50 years is nothing and 200 is recent past.

[kbolino]

Nobody's (actually) shooting any immigrants or defending the size of the U.S. military budget. Why don't you stop straw-manning for five goddamn seconds? Oh right, because you're a lying hypocrite.

[John Titor]

No, what you're actually talking about is a collection of European states being defended largely by the American military. You're praising a system that is enabled by the United States spending billions of dollars on a military that takes up their slack you moron.

Thank America for a peaceful Europe.

[kbolino]

Do they have this problem-- you know, murderous impulses that lead to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people-- in other Western European countries?

Is that a joke? I realize you may be functionally retarded, but most people have at least heard of these things called "World War I" and "World War II".

[John Titor]

And the Napoleonic Wars, the centuries of French-English conflict, the constant back and-forth between France and Germany, France and Prussia, France and Austria, France and the HRE in general, Spain and everybody except England and Portugal (mostly), the dozens of random Italian conflicts, the Thirty Years War, the entirety of the hundreds of years of the Protestant vs. Catholic thing, succession wars, Baltic conflicts, Sweden's massive history of warmongering, Poland and pretty much everyone around them...

[kbolino]

Look, the Europeans are better now! They have monetary union and free healthcare. They'll never go to war ever again.

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

Ooh, and 750 years of wars with Ottomans (Manzikret - Smyrna) until they were finally rolled back out of Europe (though it's bookmarked by huge Turk victories against Greek-speakers, oddly enough).
Oh, and martial law in effect in France RIGHT THE FUCK NOW.

[John Titor]

I didn't count the Ottomans because they technically "started" it. Not that the Catholics wasn't gung-ho for a round of 'Kill the Turk' once and awhile.

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

And there was some...unpleasantness about anti-colonial disagreements in Kenya, Congo, Algiers, Angola, Indo-China...

[kbolino]

Also, the French are in Africa right now in sizable numbers to address that whole "terrorism" thing.

[american socialist]

In the last 50 years. Psst, the model I favor is post war European Welfare states. Did Norway kill a million people in Vietnam?

[kbolino]

I'm sure you've already packed your bags and booked your flight to Norway, then?

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

Seriously, man, are you Noam Chomsky? Cause if not, I doubt anyone pays you to repost his 70s stuff, so why bother?

Norway sounds fine - go there. Live. Be free and happy in knowledge that you will not be contributing to the Evil Empire.

[straffinrun]

The prewar welfare state, on the other hand...

[kbolino]

the model I favor is post war European Welfare states

Like Cuba, and the Soviet Union...

[John Titor]

Lectures people about reading 'recent' history, whines when someone points to history that disagrees with his childish rants. Also clearly unaware of post-war colonial massacres and atrocities by the French and British.

But do continue on.

[kbolino]

But do continue on.

Hey, he thinks Norway is in Western Europe. What do you expect?

[kbolino]

In the last 50 years

Like when every Western European country still had colonies?

[Rhywun]

I can't be the only one who read that as FOETUS.

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

Well now you're not. I can't unsee it!

[straffinrun]

Makes the pic of Trump eating the taco bowl quite intriguing.

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

He did support Planned Parenthood...

[straffinrun]

Soylent Parenthood.

[HerbertBaker]

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[Aloysious]

Collusion. Profiteering. Price fixing. Windfall profits.

This is why we need TOP. MEN. policing the intertoobs.

[PapayaSF]

My guess was that there's a test directory for Hit & Run, but I have been unable to find it.

[Clich? Bandit]

it USED to be that the Next Article link at the bottom of articles was pre-loaded. They nerfed that a couple of years ago though. Like the Day of commenters, that shill live on in glorious history.

[Playa Manhattan.]

Even easier than that.

[Pro Libertate]

Truly a great day. It's hard to believe it actually happened.

[Yusef Adama]

Glorious Filthy Evil Commenters!!

[Pro Libertate]

The Day of the Commenters, that is.

[Fist of Etiquette]

The Day of the Commenters...

The day the Hit & Run died a little.

[DOOMco]

heck yes!