Reed College Professor on Social Justice Left: 'I Am a Gay Mixed-Race Woman. I Am Intimidated By These Students'

Queer, leftist professors and filmmakers are afraid of being sent to the guillotine by self-professed radical students.

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"Fuck this cis white bitch." That's the message, you will recall, that Reed College students placed at the podium where Boys Don't Cry director Kimberly Peirce was speaking. Peirce is a queer, genderfluid woman—her movie, which debuted in 1999, is about the murder of Brandon Teena, a young transgender man.

The students who insulted Peirce—who shouted "fuck you scared bitch" at her—and tried to stop her from speaking are ostensibly allies of the trans community. They think the film is outdated, made money off of anti-trans violence, and should have cast a trans person in the lead role. (Keep in mind how difficult a feat that would have been in 1999.)

And, as Dean of the Faculty Nigel Nicholson pointed out in his letter, these students essentially refused to educate themselves or grapple with a different perspective. They had already made up their mind about Peirce—she was a transphobic bitch—and thus the only possible response to her presence on campus was to scorn and censor her.

The comments on the Bully Bloggers recap of the incident are illuminating. One person insisted that Boys Don't Cry deserved criticism for its trans politics in the same way that The Birth of a Nation (the original, not the similarly named 2016 film) deserved criticism for its racial politics (which are explicitly white supremacist). Another commenter, a self-described transmasculine Reed student who participated in the protest said the goal was to strip away Peirce's "sense of entitlement" and chide her for a lack of "understanding of transness."

But the most revealing comment came from Lucia Martinez, an assistant professor of English at Reed who identifies as a "gay mixed-race woman." Martinez wrote:

I teach at Reed. I am intimidated by these students. I am scared to teach courses on race, gender, or sexuality, or even texts that bring these issues up in any way—and I am a gay mixed-race woman. There is a serious problem here and at other [selective liberal arts colleges], and I'm at a loss as to how to begin to address it, especially since many of these students don't believe in either historicity or objective facts. (They denounce the latter as being a tool of the white cisheteropatriarchy.)

How many professors must confess that they live in terror of their far-left students before we start taking them seriously? Before we recognize that a thin-skinned, easily-offended super-minority of students has gained the power to censor academics and other students for broaching controversial subjects? Before we are prepared to do something about it? This is the elite American college campus: a place where even queer, leftist professors and filmmakers are afraid of being sent to the guillotine by self-professed radical students.

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  1. Good one, Robbo.

    1. “gay mixed-race woman.”

      Stay away from this one. If you so much as look that way you could lose your house, your job, one lung.

      1. A little bit of light humor regarding Dr. Peirce and her detractors is okay, but critics of either side should resist any untoward temptations to disseminate inappropriately deadpan “parody” of anyone involved in the dispute, for such conduct would violate certain regulations that we apply in New York when dealing with such delicate academic matters, to ensure that discourse remains within the proper bounds of civility. Surely no one here would dare to defend the outrageous “First Amendment dissent” of a single, isolated judge in America’s leading criminal “satire” case? See the documentation at:

        https://raphaelgolbtrial.wordpress.com/

    1. You should probably cook that goat first.

    2. For the artistically illiterate = that’s Goya “Saturn eating his son”…

      …the idea being that the god feared being overthrown by his children, and so ate them as soon as they were born. Not a bad analogy for how these teachers feel – but sadly, they’re toothless….otherwise i’d enjoy watching the spectacle.

      *footnote – goya actually painted that on the wall of his own dining room. creepy!

      1. That’s Saturn eating a horse, or possibly a unicorn.

    3. correction – its a photoshop? or a weird copy of it, where the body is changed to a horse?

      the original ; the horsey one

      1. I think it’s a unicorn-eating fetish site.

        1. I defer to your expertise in these matters.

          1. We all have our roles to play.

      2. I just spent 10 min trying to sort that out. People have linked to the horse one, intending to link to the original and apparently without noticing the difference. I think it might have been the creation of this guy in response to the 2013 horse meat scandal.

        1. yeah, you did more work than i did. I grokked that the guy made some ‘spoof’ of the original, i just couldnt figure out ‘why’ or how.

    4. I learned something today. Om nom nom nom nom nom.

  2. If every professor had the prerogative to simply dismiss anyone disrupting a class and give them an F for the course, this kind of behavior would likely cease in short order.

    These children are over-indulged. Stop indulging them, it’s not doing them any favors.

    -jcr

    1. And risk not being paid? $50,000 per year tuition is worth a lot of aggravation.

      1. Yeah, this is on the parents. Are they so clueless that they have no idea what their kids are up to?

        1. To be fair, once they’re at college and “adults”, the parents aren’t really responsible for what their kids do or how they act at that point.

          But I have no problem bashing them for producing such authoritarian, narcissistic shitbags.

          1. The parents could tell them to start acting like adults and start pursuing degrees that actually have economic futures, or the parents ain’t supporting them any more.

            1. They could, but that’s assuming they have the balls to hold that line in the first place. If their kids have reached this level of emotional psychosis, the parents have probably enabled that behavior and in many cases even encouraged it because they don’t want to be publically shamed for not supporting their brave (SO BRAVE!), hothouse, species and race-fluid offspring.

      2. Get tenure, then start failing them.

        1. I would say these professors are already failing these kids.

          1. Hell, the professors created these kids. Maybe not this particular professor, but academia in general.

      3. @And risk not being paid?

        Forgive me, but I distinctly recall paying quite a bit of money to flunk out of college. Did your experience differ?

      4. I always had to pay tuition at the beginning of the semester, no refunds.

    2. I think this is really a “question and answer” all in one: How do we get the left to destroy itself? As Waffles alludes, sit back with the popcorn and watch the festivities.

      1. By “we” I mean me.

      2. The problem is that the Left won’t destroy itself. It will take everyone down with it. It’s like a moron setting off a bomb in a ship.

  3. Robespierre might have had analogous thoughts that day on the Place de la R?volution.

    1. Is that a new nickname for Robby? I can’t keep up with all the shit you guys come up with to call poor Robby. But Robbyspierre sounds pretty far fetched to me. On the other hand, he did say:

      “The secret of freedom lies in educating people, whereas the secret of tyranny is in keeping them ignorant.”

      “Any law which violates the inalienable rights of man is essentially unjust and tyrannical; it is not a law at all.”

      “Again, it may be said, that to love justice and equality the people need no great effort of virtue; it is sufficient that they love themselves.”

      1. Not Robby, I was referring to the lament of the professorthingie in the the article.

      2. Robespierre’s Law: The power you give government to do unto others will be used to do unto you.

  4. Were you really teaching them anything before?

    1. I am scared to teach courses on race, gender, or sexuality, or even texts that bring these issues up in any way

      No.

      1. Are the tests multiple choice?

        Talk about trembling over your answer.

  5. “This is the elite American college campus: ”

    No, they and you just think it is.

    1. It’s a good school.

      1. Oh, please. Any school named in honor of Mr. Fantastic can’t be all that great.
        (Although I do like their sports team name, the Reed Gamma Rays.)

        1. You can’t spell Reed Gamma Rays without the Gays!

      2. Why does an ass like you keep changing the handle and posting the same crap?

        1. Cry more gramps. Then die of old age.

          1. Dude, stop being a dick or you are gonna get it long and hard, like your mom used to every day while you were inside her, causing your little fetal brain damage from the big cocks smacking your developing fontanels.

          2. Dude, stop being a dick or you are gonna get it long and hard, like your mom used to every day while you were inside her, causing your little fetal brain damage from the big cocks smacking your developing fontanels.

        2. Why do you care?

        3. Sevo, I’m guessing you meant that response for Hail Rataxes, it only looks like it’s for me based on the odd threading the comments get here.

          If it was meant for me, oh well.

          1. You are correct. I think it was meant for the OTHER asshole. : )

    2. OK, so what do you think the real elite American college campus is?

      1. ZOD’S SCHOOL OF ZODCASTING.

      2. Why on earth, after all your clown ass equivocation, and being by far the most insufferable poster here (sorry Tonio) do you think I’d voluntarily converse with you?

        1. To be fair, you are really a putrid pile of excrement.

          1. Looks like I made the right decision about you.

            1. Poor HR, still punishing the rest of society for his daddy issues.

            2. Which one was that? The decision not to voluntarily converse with me? You seem to be failing.

              1. con?ver?sa?tion
                ?k?nv?r?s?SH(?)n/
                noun
                the informal exchange of ideas by spoken words.

                See, you’re stupid, and even insufferable about that. You’re being insulted. You’re giving me nothing.

                1. You’re giving me nothing.

                  Consider it an in-kind donation.

                  1. “Consider it an in-kind donation.”

                    So you agree that it wasn’t a conversation. Glad you know I was right.

                    1. So you agree that it wasn’t a conversation. Glad you know I was right

                      Well, it’s tough to converse with a retard, but Zeb gave it his best shot with you.

                    2. “Red Rocks Dickin Bimbos|12.13.16 @ 2:56PM|#

                      So you agree that it wasn’t a conversation. Glad you know I was right

                      Well, it’s tough to converse with a retard, but Zeb gave it his best shot with you.”

                      See, this is what it looks like when you realize you got checkmated, and still feel the inexplicable need to continue, rather than leave the field with what little dignity you have left.

                    3. See, this is what it looks like when you realize you got checkmated and still feel the inexplicable need to continue, rather than leave the field with what little dignity you have left

                      You need those BOLDED WORDS and whining about aggression for the true Michael Hihn effect there.

                    4. Yes yes, trying to recover, I realize your ego requires it.

                    5. Then stop responding to me and you’ll starve that which you despise.

                    6. Yes yes, still trying to recover.

                    7. More like passive-aggressive Hihn.

                    8. Damn dude, still trying to recover.

                    9. Talking about your heroin addiction again?

                2. Then why do you keep suffering me?

                  1. It’s a Zeb post where he doesn’t, obviously, intentionally, take the other side of something.

                    *faints away*

                    (Still insulting)

          2. Do you mean to suggest, Zebulon, that you know of a better institution of fine education?

            1. The DUI school in the strip mall where the food lion used to be.

              1. Just a suggestion, but you might want to kneel before Zod.

            2. I know nothing. I’m just flattered that this turd has decided to have a special grudge against me for some reason.

              1. Zeb, you aren’t really one of us until you are hounded from thread to thread by someone you don’t know for some reason you don’t understand.

                1. Aren’t you the guy who lied about how he got diabetes?

                  1. Speak up, blank white space.

                2. Does that still count if it’s Hugh doing the hounding?

                3. SugarFree: Zeb, you aren’t really one of us until you are hounded from thread to thread by someone you don’t know for some reason you don’t understand.

                  Oh shit, my bucket list is not complete. Can someone please call me a putrid piece of shit?

                  1. It’s not that simple, Jimbo. First you need to attract the secret griefer/admirer, then call them a putrid pile of shit.

                  2. *crickets*

                  3. Jimbo,
                    You are a putrid piece of shit. To progs. Not to us.

                  4. Here, Jimbo. I will steal this from bacon-magic:

                    You are a putrid piece of shit. To progs. Not to us.

                4. Where do I do the job posting for my very own H&R nemesis?

                  1. Call the Urkobold. No, not toll-free.

                    1. I think the most fascinating part of all this is that the real “Hail Rataxes” , the one that has an L at the end of HaiL, is actually in this thread and tried to point out that it wasn’t him.

                      Badly, but still.

                      Anyway, thanks for being a large group of pile-on, don’t bother to check details retards.

                      Manipulating your mob mentality was amusing.

                      Now, please feel free to post your attempts at recovery.

                      That will amuse me as well.

                    2. Jill Stein approves this message
                      Amirite???

                  2. Just do a shout-out to AmSoc or PB.

                    You will have your nemesis in no time. Note that PB will be 8% more effective that AmSoc.

                    1. Ah, looks like you’ll be the last retard fished in.

                      Grats!

                    2. ^this guy gets it

                    3. Hey hey a latecomer!

                    4. I think it’s fair to say Hail Rataxes wants all the dicks. Right? As much of the dicks he can get at once.

                      *ahem, unzips*

                      This monster isn’t going to take care of itself Hail.

                    5. ^FANTASTIC!

                    6. “Hey hey a latecomer!” – things Hail Rataxes says when a john takes forever to finish in his overused ass, going past the allotted 30 minutes time limit that $5 gets you.

                    7. “”Hey hey a latecomer!” – things Hail Rataxes”

                      Yeah I hear that guy’s an asshole?

                      Ahhahahahahhaahahhaah

                    8. Amsoc accused me of planning genocide last night, does that mean I’m in the cool kids’ club?

                    9. John Titor, you were already in the cool kids’ club, because you consistently post funny comments that make us all laugh.

                    10. ^still doesn’t get it!

                      Ahahahahahahahhaan

                    11. Dude, you are a boring troll. This is only fun if you come back with something at least half-way clever or amusing.

                    12. Halfway clever would be about 49% greater than what he’s capable of.

                    13. “Red Rocks Dickin Bimbos|12.13.16 @ 4:18PM|#

                      Halfway clever would be about 49% greater than what he’s capable of.”

                      Ahahahahahhahaahahahaha how can you still not understand what the fuck is going on omg haahhaahahhahajahahahahajaha

                    14. Looks like Louise Mensch is commenting here now.

                    15. ^”Dude, you are a boring troll. ”

                      Ahahahahahhahha no shit retard!!!

                    16. Plus being accused of planning genocide by a *socialist* gives you more street cred with us.

                    17. Baby, it’s cold outside.

                    18. You know nothing, John Titor.
                      (One of these days this GOT reference will get old to me, but not this year)

        2. For someone not voluntarily engaging in conversation with zeb you already fucked up. Gosh you are a moron.

        3. Haha, honestly, considering that Mr. Zeb is among the most slow-tempered, even-keeled commenters around here, I’m wondering what you did to get into a row with him. You must really be an asshole even by our standards.

  6. A few professors with false consciousness are irrelevant.

  7. It occurs to me that a lot of large universities are state run. And most states are controlled by GOP legislatures and governors. Why not simply enforce the First Amendment? Shortly later, of course, privatize it all.

    1. Was it GA? One of the southern state’s university system is about to run into the legislative hearing buzzsaw. They will pine for the days when the Republicans took little notice of them other than to “underfund” the requested budget.

      1. Well, UGA suffers and education is freed? Double the fun.

        1. When GT was forced to go to semesters be the rest of the GA universities, I was hoping they would raise the money and go private.

          Quarter system is clearly superior for STEM education.

          1. Let us join for a moment of UGA hate.

      2. I hope our Robby diligently and voluminously covers any such hearings.

  8. Nothing to see here. Political correctness is simply about being polite to minorities. Tony told me so.

    1. Is political correctness just cow towing to incredibly stupid zombies?

      1. We’ve gone from lion towing to cow towing? How embarrassing.

        1. Could he mean cow-tipping?

      2. Towing the cow.

  9. Modern universities: teaching the ineducable to be unemployable.

    1. Joke’s on them, you can’t teach the ineducable.

      Actually the joke’s on whoever’s paying for it, which will probably be us.

      1. You could almost feel sorry for the dross they have to work with. Almost.

    2. My one friend who went to reed majored in dance

      1. I major in dance when I have lots of drinks.

        1. I never danced when I was a Major.

        2. I sometimes minor in dance. By which I mean I euphemistically ‘dance’ with minors. Probably shouldn’t admit it on the internet.

  10. Hey there little pussy, let me get my big boy pants on and Really take you on!!! What a snake in the grass you are you lying piece of shit too cowardly to confront me in real life so you do it on Bully Bloggers? You are the biggest faggot ass in the world biggest pussy! My dick is bigger than yours
    Which ain’t sayin much! What a true piece of shit you are! Lying faggot! I hope you meet your karma
    SLOWLY AND PAINFULLY

    1. was that an actual comment from “bully bloggers”?

      i just glanced over a few of them and after 2 or 3 i was like zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

      if there’s one thing these gender-politics people aren’t, its succinct

      Also: young Brandon Teena? would totally pick her for my touch-football team

        1. damn. she always had a short fuse.

          what would solve this is a mud-wrestling match between Cindy and Nelly from Little House on the Prairie.

          1. Make it happen, Donald John Trump!

  11. Hope you’re all appreciating the lack of to-be-sures.

    1. ^^^ – He reads the comments & he cares

    2. I’d appreciate a lack of you even more.

      1. Is your pharmacy out of midol or something?

    3. already re-positioned the goalpost.

    4. Suckup

    5. Links being provided on time, less to-be-sures, actually putting up alt-text once and while? We’ll make a Reason writer out of you yet. Now you just have to read something other than your Twitter feed daily.

    6. “Hope you’re all appreciating the lack of to-be-sures.”

      Keep it up, and you’ll get standing Os.

      1. Also known as “knee-tremblers”.

      2. I wonder what Rico’s “standing O face” looks like?

    7. You may not get into any more cocktail parties, but you’re always welcome to our rainbow chem parties.

    8. 2 B Sure was the best boy band going in the mid 90s. Of course, all anyone remembers about them now is the debacle of their third album, This Is How It Is. Rolling Stone mourned “…the abandonment of their trademark ambivalence”, as did we all.

    9. It’s a good start. Now try it next time a right-winger gets the same treatment.

    10. Oh, surely someone can come up with some reason to berate you and belittle you.

    11. I did notice that, Robby. Well done.

      This time. We’ll be watching.

    12. *pats Robbo on head* *wipes off hair grease/gel/whatever on Crusty’s jeans*

      1. Uh, I’m not sure those are jeans.

        1. He spray paints them on every morning. Most people don’t notice because the texture of his skin basically resembles denim.

    13. It was noticed and appreciated.

  12. How many professors must confess that they live in terror of their far-left students before we start taking them seriously?

    I don’t really take any “expressions of terror/fear” seriously. And i don’t see why we should.

    When i see teachers/professors pushing back against the monsters they’ve created – and defending other teachers who express ‘controversial’ opinions from student-censure …. and administrations telling their own students that attempting to silence speakers is grounds for expulsion…. etc. THEN maybe i’ll take the whining from college-professors seriously.

    These ‘far left students’ only have power because colleges have willingly granted it to them. If teachers feel uncomfortable, they should look for employment at schools where administrations will back them up.

    e.g. did the rest of the staff & administration @ Yale support the Christakis-couple? according to this, a single dean expressed support, but otherwise it seems that most schools react to student temper-tantrums with whimpers and consolation

  13. Interestingly enough, if you cease teaching people to hold back their inherent violent urges (even to encourage those urges against the “bad people”), they turn into a violent mob.

    Go figure.

    1. That’s the problem, this could go from talk to violence overnight.

      The day after though, maybe at least that school will rethink being a “gun-free zone”?

      1. For some reason, I don’t think they’d win that fight. Safe spaces, play-dough, letter blocks and puppy videos don’t make for good weapons, unfortunately.

  14. “This is the elite American college campus: a place where even queer, leftist professors and filmmakers are afraid of being sent to the guillotine by self-professed radical students.”

    Like I said, Girondins.

    Only a lack of power and skill prevents many of these radicals from putting their enemies in a literal guillotine.

    The “gay mixed race women” will be shocked to find that they’re being treated as if they were aristocrats or royalists.

    1. Just as a refresher – the Girondins were hot-to-trot revolutionaries in France until the Jacobins started calling them reactionaries and decapitating them.

      1. If memory serves me correct, the Girondins were the moderate, classically liberal faction of the Jacobins that were overtaken by the more radical Montagnards.

  15. O.T. – Too late for AM links, so…

    Lee Genes posted this little gem earlier: Advertising to Pearl Jam Fans is Totally Racist

    Apparently it’s only a crime if you don’t put the right feelz and intentions behind it. Here’s how it’s done if you want to not only get away with it but also win some sweet tax funding along the way: LGBTQ-Friendly Apartment Complex Gets One Step Closer To Approval

    1. The link for the LGBTQ apartment complex doesn’t work. Instead, the page reads “Something Went Wrong”. Well, duh: why the fuck do we need an apartment complex like that in the first place?

  16. “Fuck this cis white bitch.”

    I think we should just yell this at Robbie.

    1. Who made the joke about the Dark Lord of the Cis?

    2. FIGHT THE CIS-TEM

      (*from the linked pic)

  17. OT: I’m currently sitting in a downtown church listening to Thomas Friedman give a lecture. Clandestingly posting.

    A but too lightweight in topic for me – Friedman’s adventures in cyberspace and the digital media.

    This is the church that has a large sculpture of completely nude human figures ‘soaring’ at the main entrance.

    1. Is this a punishment? Or are you exploring differing viewpoints?

      And what denomination is this, that invites Thomas Friedman into the (pulpit?) but doesn’t want you to post about it?

      1. It’s a nearby church so it’s not a hassle to check out. See what he has to say.
        I don’t know the culture of using devices in church. I’m in back so it’s not too intrusive.

      2. My guess – Unitarians.

        I didn’t read “clandestinely” as a content blackout but as either a no-phones courtesy policy or not wanting to out himself as a [gasp] libertarian in a prog stronghold.

        1. A *polite* libertarian, no less

          “I don’t know the culture of using devices in church. I’m in back so it’s not too intrusive.”

          Although it could simply be obedience to the NAP.

        2. It’s a very liberal Presbyterian church.
          Google image: Paul Granlund sculpture The Birth of Freedom and, ironically, it’s NSFW.

          1. The birth of freedom ain’t pretty, just ask King George.

    2. Trying to spot some local big shots. Getting bored so now that the local boy is done speaking I’m splitting the scene….

    3. This is the church that has a large sculpture of completely nude human figures

      Your church was designed by an Art Deco fetishist?

      (Also known as Howard Roark)

    4. Friedman’s adventures in cyberspace and the digital media.

      [Mongo realizes Friedman is just relating the plot of The Lawnmower Man, and badly]

      1. “And then, right after I had the ENTIRE Encyclopaedia Britannica on just 17 CDs, I got an AOL account!”

        1. Sadly, this was 2009 for him, and not 1997.

          1. All his google searches are about beard grooming.

  18. Dr. Frankenstein, meet your creation.

    You’re the ones who’ve filled these kids heads with nonsense, including the nonsense that it’s not nonsense. They’ve figured out that words can mean whatever the hell anybody chooses to say they mean and they’re using your own logic against you. It’s a little hard to assert your authority when you’ve been teaching these kids there is no such thing as authority, isn’t it?

    But you could use one bit of their own logic against them, you know. They claim “hate speech” – any speech they don’t like – is an assault against them, if they say something hurtful then by their own logic they’ve just assaulted you, haven’t they? You’re allowed to defend yourself against an assault, so punch the little fuckers in the mouth. If they sue or try to have you arrested, call them as a witness for the defense and get them to testify to the fact that, by their own logic, they attacked you first. Hell, you’re an employed adult, you got money for a lawyer, the kids don’t. Fuck with ’em.

    1. At the very least, it seems to me you’ve got a claim against the college regarding a hostile work environment.

    2. Why, it’s just like the sixties all over again. Those who do not learn from history…

      1. …are majoring in gender studies, and history is cis-het-normative.

    3. I went to an engineering school where I was subjected to indoctrination by XON. You should have seen the room when I asked the oil company exec. About the Valdez.

      1. amsoc, you don’t have to attend engineering school to become a sanitation engineer.

        1. I made it all the way through engineering school before I learned I wasn’t going to get to drive a train or wear the cool hat.

        2. Ahem. Pool boy.

          Don’t forget the thread where he said he was a chemist but didn’t know how pool chlorine worked.

          1. He’s a chemical engineer, duh! – derp

          2. Eh. You win some. You lose some. In my experience the best thing to do is acknowledge an error honestly and then move on.

            1. At least you’re now admitting to being a lying piece of shit. Now pay your mortgage, leave the country for the socialist hell hole of your choice, and have a nice day. Don’t forget to send us those sweet bottled tears.

  19. So, now we’re against free speech if it makes good people feel bad?

    Are we saying that social justice warriors’ speech is awful, and that makes them hypocrites–but we’re not hypocrites since we support their free speech rights anyway?

    Are we saying that social justice warriors should have their First Amendment rights violated just like campuses violate the free speech rights of others?

    Does anyone know what this piece means?

    Does anyone care?

    “Fuck this cis white bitch.” is protected speech. So is holocaust denial. Free speech is about standing up for the rights of evil assholes to say horrible things–even if they’re being hypocrites.

    Why should that need to be said on a libertarian website?

    1. Because it’s a symptom of the greater issue. I see nobody here, least of all Robby, calling for punishment for these students. Just pointing out that they’re assholes, which they are, and discussing the way in which their attitude causes greater problems on modern college campuses.

      Free speech is about standing up for the rights of evil assholes to say horrible things. But it also involves my right to call them assholes for it.

    2. Since this was written on a libertarian website, you should know that I of course defend their right to say horrible, offensive, insulting things. They have no right to infringe on Kimberly Peirce’s speaking rights, however.

      1. “They have no right to infringe on Kimberly Peirce’s speaking rights, however.”

        Did they? Didn’t see that anywhere in the editorial.

        1. This article is a compliment piece to a different article from a few days ago.

          NOOB ALERT!

      2. Since this was written on a libertarian website

        Wait…

        reason is a libertarian site? Damn, I’m in the wrong place.

      3. I of course defend their right to say horrible, offensive, insulting things

        And some of us even believe that speech can and should have consequences, including being expelled from school.

      4. “Since this was written on a libertarian website . . . “

        So other than the masthead, there’s no way to tell?

        If this had been posted to Salon, would anyone have thought it was a libertarian take on free speech?

        The internal debate about whether equality before the law means everyone’s rights should be violated equally will always be with us. Both sides of that debate can be libertarian, but I don’t even see the libertarian side of either of those arguments being pushed to front and center here.

        I see a lot about how awful the speech of social justice warriors was because it unfairly hurt nice people’s feelings. That’s the social justice warrior take on speech. The problem with social justice warriors is not that their speech hurts people’s feelings. It’s not that they’re hypocrites. It’s not that the people whose feelings they hurt are nice people rather than bad people either.

        This piece, to my eye, is affirming the social justice warriors’ criteria as to what constitutes bad speech (can’t hurt the feelings of nice people), and if we’re using the same criteria the social justice warriors are using, then it shouldn’t be surprising that some readers are confused about what a piece like this is really saying–regardless of the masthead.

    3. I think it should be worth pointing out that there are people who are adverse to discussing facts, and will deny all facts as being part of an invisible oppression. They still have freedom of speech, but if a group like this gains too much influence, nobody else will.

    4. “Fuck this cis white bitch.” is protected speech.
      Sure, but what of my right to listen to the lecture?
      Perhaps these matter should be settled as God intended, with heavy and indiscriminate firepower.
      Then the last man or woman standing can either carry on screaming insults or sit down and enjoy the lecture.

      1. “Sure, but what of my right to listen to the lecture?”

        It doesn’t exist.

        1. Presumably he has a contractual right.

          More generally, I rather feel like there’s a line someone crosses into harassment you can rightly do something about, short of them doing actual physical violence, but that’s a hard line to set of course.

    5. Are we saying that social justice warriors’ speech is awful, and that makes them hypocrites–but we’re not hypocrites since we support their free speech rights anyway?

      I think that’s about right.

      Did you recently suffer some brain damage or something, Ken? You seem to have a lot of difficulty lately interpreting text.

      Why should that need to be said on a libertarian website?

      Why do we need 23 kinds of deodorant?

      1. “Need”‘s got nothing to do with it.

    6. The problem is that these kids don’t just say stupid stuff or picket, they disrupt and shut down speakers, try to get conservatives punished for wearing political hats or putting up a “wall”, block white people from getting to class, physically threaten people in the library. They get profs fired. They are one step away from rioting and killing people.

      1. “The problem is that these kids don’t just say stupid stuff or picket, they disrupt and shut down speakers, try to get conservatives punished for wearing political hats or putting up a “wall”, block white people from getting to class, physically threaten people in the library. They get profs fired.”

        Well, then, go after them for that.

        Why dwell on how they’re hurting people’s feelings with their speech?

  20. especially since many of these students don’t believe in either historicity or objective facts

    I’m sure Lenin and his cronies are happy to know that their project to turn the Western University into the manufactory of the New Soviet Man came off in only 100 years.

    1. Unfortunately for Lenin the schools haven’t produced New Soviet Men, they’ve produced Nietzschean Last Men.

      1. I think they’ve produced New Gendered Pajama Boys.

        1. Is that a Wham! cover band?

          1. Ooh. Sick Burn. Serious question: do you have to write an original song in order to be covered? I mean, isn’t Wham! just a cover band?

            1. There is a line between mere derivative and actual copyright infringement. Wham! seems to have stayed on the derivative side.

            2. George Michael wrote “Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go” among others.

  21. I believe the correct phrase is “chickens coming home to roost.” The collectivist professors are finally experiencing the results of what they have bred.

  22. especially since many of these students don’t believe in either historicity or objective facts

    That don’t bother the facts none, but if you don’t believe in reality, why the fuck should any university give you the time of day?

    1. I went to be able to sleep all day and chase tail and only get into an argument with my parents about my behavior when the grades came in.

    2. Wouldn’t this mean they shouldn’t expect anyone to accept their complaints? If there are no objective facts, then all their complaints are unverifiable.

      1. Consistent beliefs are also cisheteronormative patriarchy, you shitlord.

  23. the white cisheteropatriarchy

    ?and my pronoun is czie. Don’t you dare mispronounce it!

  24. Fuck this cis white bitch

    If you guys can’t handle being polite to minorities then you are just a bunch of whining babies and you aren’t voting based on any real issues.

    /Tony

    1. You’ll not find me defending this behavior. Or almost anyone else if you cared about assessing the actual situation more than picking out an anecdote to zing people with.

  25. They had already made up their mind about Peirce?she was transphobic bitch?and thus the only possible response to her presence on campus was to scorn and censor her

    And that’s Not OK because she’s not one of the ones who deserved it.

    1. Sorry Robby, I didn’t mean to pile on. That one was just too good to pass up.

      1. The first rule of Robby Club is, don’t apologize to Robby. Geez.

        1. I wouldn’t join any club that would have me as a member.

  26. Keep in mind how difficult a feat that would have been in 1999.

    Yeah, the time year/time period is what makes that difficult;
    Doesn’t count! Because reasons.
    Doesn’t count! Also reasons.
    Reasons!

  27. Yeah, I don’t know, somehow I don’t find Hillary’s base too sympathetic. Pretty glad that these little Robspierres will be out of power for the next four years.

  28. They think the film is outdated, made money off of anti-trans violence, and should have cast a trans person in the lead role. (Keep in mind how difficult a feat that would have been in 1999.)

    They got damned close with the actress they did cast.

    1. She survived the making of the movie, therefor, fake victim.

  29. There is a serious problem here and at other [selective liberal arts colleges], and I’m at a loss as to how to begin to address it, especially since many of these students don’t believe in either historicity or objective facts.

    Those things are right wing concepts. Of course they don’t believe in them.

  30. I’m at a loss as to how to begin to address it

    I don’t want to read too much into this one professor’s comments, but more generally, it’s tough for people on the left to combat these attitudes because they are all part of the same worldview. These students are just taking the next ill-informed step. If you center yourself around group identity then you aren’t going to have a good answer for people who center themselves around group identity in a more radical or even violent way (not saying there was violence in this particular circumstance, just looking forward to a possible future). The solution is to center yourself around individualism.

  31. I went to an anti-Trump rally here in my hometown in California. You want to guess how many times I heard income inequality, labor unions, and universal health care mentioned? I think people have a point when they talk about the gripping on the Left (are these people really Leftists?). Indeed, it’s remarkably similar to the victimization rhetoric that the Right uses. I suppose where I differ is whether or not I find a speaker who talks about lesbian, transgendered, bathroom empowerment annoying enough to vote for a right-winger who will gut Social Security benefits. So far, no.

    1. Please go away and take Steve Chapman with you.

      1. Is it the official libertarian position that transgender bathroom panic is 1,000 more important than economic issues?

        1. Completely the opposite. The tranny fiasco was created to distract the zombies form the fact that we are in debt, spending on wars forever, and imploding our own economic system.

          1. Not so sure about that anymore. Maybe if this were the 90’s that would be the case, but I seem to remember the Johnson was always pimping about how ‘socially inclusive’ he was, while simultaneously saying how he agreed with Sanders more than any other candidate. A so-called ‘libertarian’ candidate that lavishly praised an aging socialist. Square that for me.

            In the minds of certain ‘libertarians’, gay marriage, bathrooms, and abortion will always trump anything regarding taxes or the size of government (hell, they like using government to enforce those positions).

    2. By ‘gutting social security benefits’, are you talking about Bernie Sanders plan from his own website which shows SS benefits putting a crater in the ground around the time Millennials are suppose to start receiving them?

      1. Bernie means well and he’s old so therefore he cannot be evil.

    3. I went to an anti-Trump rally here in my hometown in California

      Did you go swimming in the ocean with the rest of the lemmings?

    4. who will gut Social Security benefits.

      Who’s going to do that? I can’t wait to hear who that is!

  32. How many professors must confess that they live in terror of their far-left students before we start taking them seriously

    Oh look, The Revolution has finished with the last of Mensheviks and it’s Old Guards turn.
    They need to confess their failings like good Party members would, and accept their just punishment for their many transgressions.

    1. transgressions

      ugh. verbal patriarchy.

        1. That makes you bae.

  33. Robert Heinlein couldn’t have made this shit up. Stranger in a strange land indeed.

    1. This age is reminiscent of the crazy years from his future history.

      1. Only he thought the theocrats would be a Christian-Morman hybrid, not a bunch of neopagan know-nothings.

        1. They’re puritannical twits. The underlying beliefs have changed, the urge to control and punish hasn’t.

  34. As long as we spend 10 times the number of column inches whining about these kids’ whining, maybe they’ll go away and leave all the thin skin for conservatives.

    1. I revel in your misery, you pathetic piece of shit

    2. Tony accusing Robby of being a conservative is the height of entertainment.

  35. Schadenfreude. Taking delight in the misfortune of others. Malicious joy.

    Leave it to the Germans to take something perfectly nice and make it sound bad.

  36. While I try my darnedest to not collectivize university educators, it’s hard not to. This is a singular mindset at work cobbling together identity politics and social justice and leftist thought and [insert buzzword here] into this creation they can no longer rein.

    But, of course, they could get a handle on it if they asserted academic control. That, unfortunately, would require not offloading blame to the authoritarian/reactionary other and taking responsibility and weathering the storm of mindless tirades and tantrums from the loud minority of their charges. That would mean treating students not as children but as the accountable adults they are. And it would mean banding together to force administrations to follow through.

    1. That would mean treating students not as children but as the accountable adults they are should be, but generally are not.

  37. President John Kroger issued a statement in response to this protest. “Expressing dissenting viewpoints is central to intellectual debate, as is made clear in Reed’s dissent policy,” he said. “All views, however, must be expressed in a way that does not deliberately obstruct others from sharing their ideas. Such conduct has no place at Reed College.”

    More detail at http://www.reed.edu/reed_magaz…..ponse.html

    1. Nigel Nicholson? (Dean of Faculty) ‘s statement was appropriately mealy-mouthed.

    2. President John Kroger issued a statement :

      “Price check on pig snout?”

    3. Such conduct has no place at Reed College

      Nobody’s been expelled, so I think it does have a place at Reed College.

  38. This is hilarious social justice being served to a moronic SJW.

    Any chance that a gay, gender fluid, mixed-race psycho leftist college teacher created these brain dead zombies in the first place?

    The best part is that these imbeciles have no idea that they are just re-branding postmodernism. That was the first attempt by confused Marxists to dismiss their idiocy as art by allowing all words and actions to mean whatever they wanted it to. They tried this stuff in the late 70s when the last stupid movement of failed Marxist thought had its last major push.

  39. Progressives must eventually eat themselves.

    *pours drink, salts popcorn*

  40. Don’t pay any attention to anything that happens in Portland. It is not representative of human beings anywhere else in the galaxy.

    For example, the reason they spend all their time attacking political allies is because they’ve never actually met a Republican in the wild and are skeptical that they even exist.

    Imagine the type of environment that would foster the belief that watching Boys Don’t Cry is a traumatizing event. That is a place where something has gone terribly wrong with the water pipes, not a place where we can learn anything meaningful about people.

    1. I lived in Portland for a year or so where I lived with a person who graduated from Evergreen College and another that went to Reed. While left-of-center they were entirely normal and reasonable people who were fun to be around who would Mock a protest against “Boys Don’t Cry” with glee. I suppose that there are people there who worry about this, but after a year of hanging out with roller derby girls and social science majors from Reed I never met a person That would have cared about casting Hillary Swank for a transgendered role. This is just people bitching about the color of the punch in the punch bowl. Who cares? Why does Reason keep posting this crap?

      1. Reason posts it for the same reason all other right-wing outlets obsess over anecdotes like these: it helps their cause politically to tie all of liberalism to its silliest fringes (but don’t dare call a rightwinger an enabler of racists!). It’s the expression of an absence of real ideas.

        I stereotype Portland but I swear to God every time I would accuse some lefty internet activist or Bernie cultist of living in Portland, they always did!

        1. They probably wouldn’t write about this so often if it wasn’t so common and it wasn’t supported by everyone’s tax dollars. All of the federal largess that goes to colleges in order to support little Robspierres sounds like a terrible use of money.

      2. Why come here to read it? You won’t be missed when you’re nestled snugly amongst your brethren at Salon.

  41. “and should have cast a trans person in the lead role”

    Just… stop and think about that for a minute. If you are shooting a film that covers the WHOLE life, pre and post transition of a trans person, think about all the crazy things that it would entail to hire a trans person to do that.

    Your best bet is to find an androgyny, regardless of their gender, and cast them since they can fit both pre-transition and post-transition rolls easily. So if you DEMAND the roll go to a trans person, you are demanding that they find a trans person (a small minority of people) who can act well (even smaller of a minority) and that is androgynous to pass as either male or female (even tinier minority of people). You are practically demanding that people find a unicorn.

    And also think about the IMPLICATIONS of your demand. Your trans actor will, in order to portray the character pre-transition, have to undergo a sort of un-transition. Do you really, REALLY, want to require trans people to temporarily untransition just so you, some liberal who wants to feel like they care about trans people, can feel good about the casting of a movie??

    1. Too much thought. Not enough feelz.

      Seriously, wouldn’t they just be protesting that the first part of the movie required a tranny to disown their True Gender Identity and conform to whatever cis-bullshit lives in their heads, blah blah?

      1. You can bet they’re gonna protest.

        These juveniles have no idea what they are even protesting anymore.

        1. The silent majority of apolitical trannies should tell the leftist ciswhiteheteros who make up 95% of these “activists” to sod off. “We don’t need your ‘help’ kthxbai.”

    2. You can imagine my annoyance at casting gay actors in straight roles. That’s why I voted for Trump. STOP PORTRAYING STRAIGHT PEOPLE WITH GAY PEOPLE!

      1. Then Hollywood has to shut down.

        1. I’m not seeing any down-side to this plan.

          1. C’mon guys, you gotta separate the actors from the movies. Hollywood ain’t all bad, it’s like this:

            Top Gun — fucking awesome.
            Tom Cruise — fucking crazy.

    3. If you are shooting a film that covers the WHOLE life, pre and post transition of a trans person, think about all the crazy things that it would entail to hire a trans person to do that.

      No.

      Get the best actor, and then let them act, because that is what they train and are paid to do.

      1. I think “acting” is problematic these days. Indeed, all of fiction is: according to identity politics, only a person in category X can write about or portray anyone in category X.

    4. Are unicorns eligible for Screen Actors Guild?

  42. Or you could scratch the whole premise because all of the tranny drama was 100% made up bullshit to distract

    and it worked out fantastically.

  43. 1. Once again, the Revolution eats its own.

    2. Yet another reason why Trump won.

    1. 3. *Almost* turns my disgust for Trump to sympathy.

    2. The Electoral College tracks with these things? Because I’m pretty sure fewer people voted for him.

      1. Tony you’re stupid.

  44. There is a serious problem here and at other [selective liberal arts colleges], and I’m at a loss as to how to begin to address it, especially since many of these students don’t believe in either historicity or objective facts. (They denounce the latter as being a tool of the white cisheteropatriarchy.)

    And you are completely (utterly!) at a loss to explain how this state of affairs came to be.

    1. And you are completely (utterly!) at a loss to explain how this state of affairs came to be.

      Shut up, queerphobic racist!

      Your questions are hateful!

  45. Take them seriously? Are you serious? No the only approach is to walk away and ignore them forever 100%. No conferences, no presentations, no discussion, no debate, no speakers, no guests, no invitations, no argument. They don’t want a dialog they want to scream and yell. Ok fair enough, scream and yell. Throw things. Who cares? It’s their $40,000 a year or whatever. With any luck they’ll eventually find some kind of employment that pays them to scream and yell and insult people. Again, who cares?

  46. Bravo! The wolves devour each other!

  47. How many professors must confess that they live in terror of their far-left students before we start taking them seriously?

    Just as soon as those same academics (and their administrators) admit that they’re largely responsible for the creation of the monster they’re now claiming to be in fear of.

    1. Guilty! Guilty! My evil self is at that door, and I have no power to stop it!

    2. Nailed it!

  48. Why would any employer hire ANY of those students at that forum? I hope they have a nice trust fund because there’s nothing else for them to do in life. No one will voluntarily associate with that kind of idiocy

    1. Employers won’t have much of a choice in the very near future. Colleges are churning out these over-sensetive little snowflakes in droves. It’s quite sad, really.

      1. Private employers will have choices. They can replace workers with automation; entice older workers to remain in or return to the workforce; send jobs to other countries; or just shut down and retire themselves. The real danger from snowflakes in the workforce is that they’ll flood government employment. They’ll be our teachers, social workers, law enforcement officers, librarians, bureaucrats, regulators, prosecutors, government attorneys, and politicians. That’s where they’ll do their damage. We’re seeing a preview of this in Title IX McCarthyism.

        1. Remember the Donner party? That is what happens if you let snowflakes get together in a big pile. Shine the bright and hot light of truth at every opportunity!

  49. Peirce is a queer

    I remember when talk like that could get you into trouble. She might cry all the way to the bank.

  50. “This is the elite American college campus: a place where even queer, leftist professors and filmmakers are afraid of being sent to the guillotine by self-professed radical students.”

    Yep…..that ’bout sum it all up. Liberals, you need to understand that YOU created this monster. Now YOU are gonna’ have to slay it. Ironic, isn’t it?!? The very definition of the word……….

  51. Always enjoy a good story about the left being eaten alive by their young…

  52. Well — what did you expect?

  53. Does it bother anyone that a gay mixed race woman is somehow assumed to be more equipped to teach about these subjects,

  54. You help unleash the Red Guard and now you can’t control them?

    Remember, the first people they eat are the teachers, professionals and all other “class enemies”. That’d me you. Shame you didn’t read Mao, Pot, Lenin, Aza?a or Marx. That’s what Bolsheviks do. Exactly what they do. Suck on it

  55. perhaps the real answer would be for colleges like Reed to simply end their genderqueerdysphoricsexualidentity “courses” as irrelevant to the needs of today’s college students? I mean, what are the EMPLOYMENT possibilities for such stuff? Instructing on this confusion at some OTHER college struggling to be more “relevant” or “correct”?

    Maybe this confrontation is a wake up call to reevaluate the whole charade of sexual identity as an “issue”. Not that long ago whenever a person was born, someone important took a q

    1. someone important took a quick look “down there” and declared “It’s a Boy/Girl” (clearly indicating which term applied, no doubt or confusion at all). So now we need college “majors” to help people understand the issue of sexuality, that having been plainly established for milenia?

      Methinks there be a rat about…..

    2. “what are the EMPLOYMENT possibilities for such stuff?”

      Compliance consultant.

  56. “Boys Don’t Cry” was a terrifically acted, thought-provoking film. The comparison to “Birth of a Nation” doesn’t make much sense. These students need to learn how to crack a book and how to think critically in actuality, not in name only.

  57. Sounds like a beat down is in order to have the students be more respectful…

  58. If you are afraid of them, what does that make you?
    Quit.

  59. This is a sad report. I went to Reed in the 1970s, shortly after all the Vietnam protests and other 60s movements had died down. Even during that troubled time, the campus, under leadership from its provost Marvin Levich, had managed to protect free speech. To see this kind of thing happen now, forty-five years later, makes you think college campuses are not a good place to be.

  60. This is a sad report. I went to Reed in the 1970s, shortly after all the Vietnam protests and other 60s movements had died down. Even during that troubled time, the campus, under leadership from its provost Marvin Levich, had managed to protect free speech. To see this kind of thing happen now, forty-five years later, makes you think college campuses are not a good place to be.

  61. I’m a trans-half-Japanese female, and I hang out with southern rednecks because these SJWs scare me!

    1. And those southern rednecks accept you among themselves despite your (to SJW) defects. As long as you bring the beer when it is your turn. Welcome home.

  62. What needs to happen at colleges all over the country where things like this happen is to treat these little pieces of crap like they treat others. They don’t believe in allowing free speech so give them what they want. Expel them. They are bullies. Further, the schools should publish their names on line for all the world to see.

    These people are just KKK types in different clothing. They are vile, evil people that do not believe in the human rights that they supposedly advocate for.

  63. evil people always eat their own first.

  64. The SJW’s scare off all the profs that teach their curriculum. Curriculum cancelled. Problem solved.

  65. How many professors must confess that they live in terror of their far-left students before we start taking them seriously?

    My guess is that it is as much as or less than the number of professors worried about right-wing students. This is certainly not a problem exclusive to the far-left scene.

  66. They created this monster. Where do they think these young scholars absorbed all this trash? Now reaping what they’ve sown.

  67. And that’s what they say the “first they came for…” poem…
    Quite realistic.

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