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Has Donald Trump's Election Really Caused a Staggering Increase in Schoolyard Bullying?

The Southern Poverty Law Center says yes, predictably.

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The Southern Poverty Law Center has produced another report in support of its thesis that the election of Donald Trump has unleashed a wave of racist, sexist, anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim bullying in American schools.

The organization is invested in the idea that hate is rampant and things are basically always getting worse. That said, SPLC's latest report does contain an impressive amount of anecdotal evidence that a great many teachers are dealing with increasing levels of bullying, and some of it is indeed Trump-inspired.

Even so, the evidence is anecdotal. The SPLC's report, "The Trump Effect: The Impact of The 2016 Presidential Election on Our Nation's Schools," surveyed more than 10,000 teachers, but buries a crucial fact three-quarters of the way down the page—the survey was unscientific. Respondents were people who either subscribe to the SPLC's Teaching Tolerance newsletter or were forwarded the survey by an SPLC-aligned group. Bottom line: The people who participated in this survey are people who are predisposed to share the SPLC's extra-sensitivity to hate and bias.

Why describe them as "extra" sensitive? An examination of the kinds of things the teachers reported is useful. From the report:

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Students definitely shouldn't be using the N-word, or telling people they should be returned to slavery. But merely exclaiming "build the wall" isn't necessarily an act of malice. Is it not, in some sense, a public policy position? A bad public policy position, but a legitimate one.

Then there were examples like this:

"The day after the election, I broke up a fight in the locker room because of differing opinions around each student's choice for president." —HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER, ILLINOIS

But that kind of bullying has always existed. Students fight with each other. Students are capable of great cruelty. That cruelty is sometimes connected to things that are happening in the news.

The SPLC and its allies aren't just claiming that the usual bullies are now citing Trump: They are claiming that Trump has inspired an historically-unprecedented surge of bullying, violence, and hatred in schools. They might be right. Trump advocated some horrible things, and is himself something of a bully. He insulted his rivals. He mistreated a number of women. Do students take their cues from the president-elect? It's possible.

I don't blame Muslim and Latino students for being worried about their future, and it does seem like Trump might be having at least some effect on the tone and frequency of bulling incidents in schools. But it's going to take more time to process all this. As I noted in an earlier post, we don't yet have any actual data on bullying rates for 2016. Therefore, we should be cautious about making sweeping generalizations about the state of affairs.

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  1. They wouldn’t need to manufacture data if the actual data supported them. The moral panic over bullying is like every other moral panic, and people still fall for it every time

    1. But they would still need to wait for actual data. It’s just idiotic to think that we have enough information to say anything about trends following the election that was 3 fucking weeks ago.

      This shit is all just made up.

      1. “It’s just idiotic to think that we have enough information to say anything about trends following the election that was 3 fucking weeks ago.”

        An election where the winner is still two months away from taking office, to boot.

        1. This “Southern Poverty Law Center” claim must be fake news being distributed by Internet trolls. We look forward to dealing with it once the transition is complete, along with the flag burning. Satire too. Surely no one here would dare to defend the outrageous “First Amendment dissent” of a single, isolated judge in America’s leading criminal “parody” case? We will do everything to remove all such judges from the bench. See the documentation at:

          http://raphaelgolbtrial.wordpress.com/

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          1. You misspelled fap.

          2. Young Audrey Hepburn, by far the best looking dead broad.

            1. Okay, I’m just going to say it; I’ve never understood the AH worship. What about Grace Kelly (just off the top of my head)? Natalie Wood? Ann Margaret? Ida Lupino?

              1. Whatever floats your boat is fine with me. Also young Sofia Loren

                1. Raquel Welch.

              2. Got to agree. A woman who looks as fragile as a dried flower holds no appeal for me. I’m sure I’d break her with one passionate embrace.

    3. Also, they left ‘fag’ off that list.

  2. Has the thought occurred to the SPLC that Hillary Clinton, BLM, progressives, and other agents of intolerance may have caused an increase in bullying?

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    3. Sticks and stones can break your bones, but use a word that’s not approved and other kids can get away with beating you while the adults look the other way.

      Doesn’t quite roll off the tongue like the original nursery rhyme.

  3. But what of the OTHER bullies?

    You know, the ones who bully kids who support or whose parents supoort Trump or go to church on a regular basis or who are in any way out of line with the SJW orthodoxy?

    Surely the SPLC would never deny that those bullies existed would they?

    1. Don’t be stupid, bullies only exist on the opposite side of whatever the SPLC, and SJW’s in general, support.

      1. Indeed, there’s no projection going on here.

      2. Why is a confederate flag symbol bullying but a Che t- shirt is not?

    2. What’s bizarre is they are claiming a group who literally is prohibited by law from voting, and who have no incentive what-so-ever to know a single accurate thing about a single politician on the face of the Earth, are somehow paying so much attention to politics that they’re trying to kill each other over it?

      Sure. Yeah. That must be it. I’m sure it isn’t projection on the part of the no-doubt leftist Teachers who were overwhelmingly ‘with her’ or were ‘feeling the Bern’. That is unpossible.

    3. Crybullies don’t count.

  4. The day after the election, I broke up a fight in the locker room because of differing opinions around each student’s choice for president

    Which begs the question of who started the fight, and thus whether it was, in fact, “racist, sexist, anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim bullying”.

    1. (rising intonation) begs the question…. ?

      -pedant/sarc/i keed, I keed

      1. You are correct. Should be “assumes the conclusion”.

        1. Point take I’ll just show myself out.

          1. dammit…Point taken,

            (Can’t type, my ears were still ringing from the pedant boomerang hitting me in the forehead.)

            1. You know the Hillary supporter started it because had the Trump supporter started it, they would have said so.

              1. Unless it could have been between a Jill Stein supporter and Hillary supporter?

      2. No, he’s right, including it as an example of Trump-inspired animus is in fact begging the question.

        1. oh i know that now, that’s why I’m still concussed by Mr. Dean’s 1:29 comment.

          1. Bah! Sometimes I’m guilty of not scrolling.

    2. Which begs the question of who started the fight, and thus whether it was, in fact, “racist, sexist, anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim bullying”.

      If a student attacks someone wearing a Trump hat, it is clearly “Trump-inspired hate”.

      1. So….similar to when a cop shoots someone it’s an “officer involved shooting”

        1. when a cop shoots someone it’s an “officer involved shooting” crazed maniac whose potential murder-rampage was thankfully neutralized by bullets that struck the suspect while the officer was carefully assessing the situationn

      2. Strictly speaking, I suppose that’s true.

  5. Saying things that offend someone is not bullying, no matter what that hate group the SPLC tries to claim.

  6. The SPLC is a Hate group, and anything they say should be disregarded.

    1. ^^^This

    2. They really are.

    3. Is there anything wrong with the general existence of a group like the SPLC?

      If you could get an organization to work off of truly objective guidelines, wouldn’t it be helpful to distinguish between groups that are simply exercising their first amendment rights and other groups which are advocating and inciting violence? There was a time in history when the Nazi party was JUST a political party that was offering different solutions to the problems Germany faced, and then they quickly latched onto Anti-Semitism and militarism. It seems like it might be useful to objectively to keep track of “This is just nationalist advocacy group,” and “This group is actively attacking suspected illegal immigrants.”

      1. No, there isn’t. However, the SPLC is overtly political and yet treated like they’re objective.

      2. If that’s all they were, I would not make my claim.

        This group has not been objective.

        1. Well, yes. It’s a failed group whose social mores have suffered from the same type of echo-chamber mentality that many insular organizations do.

          I was just curious if the very idea of keeping a list of names like this might be anti-liberty, or if there’s actually a role for a reasonable group to take. I’m on the side that yeah, it’s probably a legitimate activity, since information should be freely distributed as long as it’s not doled out in a manner that advances a narrative. The problem is that you’d have to set an objective set of criteria for said organization to follow and recognize when those criteria are not met.

      3. wrong in general, no, but let’s not pretend the group is something other than the agitprop machine that it is.

      4. SPLC is treated like some kind of authority for “hate crimes” and “extremist groups” as if their decisions on which groups and people to include are not motivated by leftist political bias.

        1. Yeah, that’s the problem. That the media projects them as some sort of objective authority.

      5. If you could get an organization to work off of truly objective guidelines…

        WRT the SPLC, I think you’ve got the original sin of assuming that, per the name, poor Southerners are in particular need of legal attention.

      6. SPLC is one of those groups that has long ago outlived it’s usefulness, so it found other ways to stay in business. When it was founded, there really was lots of organized, racist violence going on and they probably had a legitimate contribution to make to the civil rights cause.

    4. They should be subject to federal investigation for seditious activities. I suspect their behavior and actions will be found wanting.

  7. The day after the election, I broke up a fight in the locker room because of differing opinions around each student’s choice for presiden

    Who instigated it?

    Eh, probably doesn’t matter. I’m sure Trump made them do it regardless.

  8. Also, 10,000 teachers, likely pre-disposed to notice this kind of thing, and I count 344 instances of what I would consider clearly racist behavior**

    * I leave off Confederate flags (I grew up in Lancaster County, PA, around 2000, and some of the “hicks” wore Confederate flag gear), build the wall, deportation, and pussy.

    1. Yeah. If people are looking hard for any kind of “bias incident” and that’s all they can come up with, I don’t think it’s a big problem.

      1. But we can only say that from our position of privilege.

    2. What I notice is that there aren’t any relative or control data either.
      54 mentions of ‘swastika’s and 4 mentions of ‘noose’ but ‘gimme’, ‘all’, ‘your’, ‘daffodils’, and ‘milk money’ have 152, 6, 88, 935, and 250 mentions respectively. None of which rise above the background of between 1,000 and 1,500 Nelson Muntz-style utterance that happen every minute of every day.

      1. Stop micro-aggressing yourself!
        Stop micro-aggressing yourself!
        Stop micro-aggressing yourself!

    3. You mean ‘Dukes of Hazard’ fans?

      1. Exactly

      2. Why are you talking that way?

        1. (skips ahead)

          What knockers !

        2. +1,000,000 Golden Books and Dick and Jane

  9. “The Southern Poverty Law Center has produced another report…” SHUUUUUTTTT THEEEEEE FUUUUUUUUCK UUUUUUUUUUUUUP!

  10. None of those things happened till Trump was elected. Therefore Trump’s election caused them. It’s just common sense.

    1. Just like the increase in Muslim hate crimes in 2015 was Trump’s fault.

  11. Bullies don’t bully because of politics. They bully because they’re bullies

    1. Same goes for internet trolls. That trolls are a combination of harmless weirdos seeking attention and normal people who do it for the lulz is the most astute observation the current season of South Park has made.

      1. What about our trolls, who seem to be paid shills intent on making us look like their fever-dream imagination of libertarians?

        1. Harmless and very weird, weirdos.

          1. Really? Tony’s been in here every day since the election with his “we’re all racists here amirite?” schtick. I wonder what he makes per word.

            1. About tree fiddy.

            2. Tony’s not paid, his ego is dependent on shitting on people he thinks beneath him. That’s why he always starts ranting about how stupid we are and how brilliant he is because he’s read Leibniz. Most of our trolls are like that, it’s just shitty ego trips all around. Amsoc is about his moral superiority to us, Palin’s Buttplug is all about how we’re secret Republican rednecks who bullied him growing up and are now losers, etc. They wear their insecurities on their sleeves.

              1. And MNG had read more about libertarianism than all the rest of us combined.

                1. and still had time to attend traktor pullz

    2. Considering the quality of our nation’s civics education that adults have, there’s little chance that the kids are receiving anything approaching acceptable.

      Ignorant children don’t know or care what the Nazis represented. They only know that adults lose their shit if they see a swastika, so they draw them. It’s not any more complicated than that.

      1. Indeed. When I see stories about “hate crimes” and swastikas being spray painted on buildings, I immediately wonder how old the perpetrators are. Twelve? Thirteen?

        1. It’s also cute to see that the media is so quick to jump on “anarchists” for destruction of property and violence during proggy protests. Being able to spray paint a stylized letter A with a circle around it and destroy other people’s shit does not an anarchist make. It is proggy violence and proggy destruction, MSM. Stop lying. Your perpetual disinformation campaign is what earned this country a Trump Presidency.

          Effective symbols are easy to draw, but the ideas they communicate are frequently difficult to articulate correctly. If a kid draws it, rest assured that he doesn’t know what it means. Smack him in the gob for the vandalism and make him clean it up, but ignore what he actually drew.

      2. I always just thought swastikas were cool looking symbols. I did know why people didn’t like them, and wasn’t looking for negative attention, so I always drew them pointing to the left. Somewhat surprisingly, my teachers accepted the explanation and nothing else happened.

  12. All aboard the Trump Terror Train.

  13. “The day after the election, I broke up a fight in the locker room because of differing opinions around each student’s choice for president.” ? HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER, ILLINOIS

    I hope you broke it up by explaining that the students were too young to vote for president, and even if they had voted they would have had no effect on the outcome of the election.

    1. I was 18 the November of my senior year (but it wasn’t an election year).

      1. I was too. And it was an election year.

        I think I voted for a communist because I thought it was funny.

    2. After all, it was Illinois, the undead vote wins every year.

  14. I’ll just leave this and this here

    1. Yeah, that’s not worth reporting on at all.

      Instead Reason should pay someone to say, “here’s an SPLC report – despite decades of previous reporting showing everything they publish to be utter horseshit, let me pretend to give it the benefit of the doubt”

      That’s much more helpful.

      1. The only coverage the SPLC deserves is some good old fashioned investigative journalism into their funding and management.

        1. good old fashioned investigative journalism

          Columbia Journalism School has replaced that course with “Advanced Copy/Paste Techniques”

          1. Is that before or after the “Disguising Confirmation Bias as Objective Reporting” portion of the curriculum?

      2. are we sure Robby is pretending ?

        1. He definitely knows he gets lots of shit for it in comments. So it’s either sincere, or he likes fucking with commenters. Or more likely some of both.
          I think he’s done a bunch of good reporting, so I don’t really mind. It is pretty funny how predictable it is (as well as the responses in comments).

    2. There are racists that speak English. Donald Trump speaks English. Therefore, Donald Trump is a racist.

      Fucking composition fallacy. We should be allowed to drag the fuckers who use this kind of sophistry into the street and kick the shit out of them for it.

  15. In Victorian England, the scariest boogeyman was a fire-breathing devil-man who could jump unnaturally high. Some said he was demon, while others thought he was just an extraordinarily agile human, but no matter what you believed about the legend, Spring-Heeled Jack was a name that inspired fear among the folk.

    Mainly attacking women, the figure/monster would ring a doorbell, and when someone would answer, it would ravage their clothes with its claws. Other sightings have him simply ambushing people who were out walking.

    Jack really took shape after two of his most well-known attacks. According to an account that was widely publicized at the time, in February of 1838, a man rang the doorbell of Jane Alsop, screaming that they had caught Spring-Heeled Jack, and that they needed help. When she brought the man a candle there in the dark street, he proceeded to breathe blue flame in her face and tear at her clothes and skin with metal claws. She ran back towards her house, but he continued to cut her with his claws, until Alsop’s sister came to her rescue, scaring off the attacker. Alsop described Jack as having eyes like red fireballs, and wearing a helmet and tight-fitting white outfit. It was a bizarre account, but Spring-Heeled Jack’s reputation as some kind of devil grew.

      1. Young? I think he was 30 or so.

      2. Hihn was never young. And he only likes to bang corpses.

    1. I remember that Ripley’s Believe It Or Not True Demons and Monsters comic on Spring Heel Jack when I was a kid.

      Scared the crap out of me…..

      1. A very in-depth look, if you are interested.

      2. A fun fact: Ripley’s Believe it or Not predates the designation of a national anthem for the United States. It was a Ripley’s article noting that the country had never selected one which seems to have led to the movement to do so. It culminated about a year later in the official designation of the Star Spangled Banner as our anthem.

    2. “So, me husband comes ‘ome unexpectedly and finds me ‘alf dressed and me blouse in tatters. Luckily, Big John had just dove out the window, so I was inna clear. So’s I tells me ‘usband, “that Spring-heeled Jack was just ‘ere. He went “thataway” and I commenced to sobbin’.

  16. Trump advocated some horrible things, and is himself something of a bully. He insulted his rivals. He mistreated a number of women. Do students take their cues from the president-elect? It’s possible.

    Sure, Robby.

    Although- I admit it; threatening to blow up the deficit even more with a lot of half-baked “infrastructure” projects is pretty horrible.

    1. He mistreated a number of women.

      A wise journalist would have thrown an “allegedly” in there. This is just baiting Trump to sue, and the man seems to have a proclivity towards it. He might even do it in order to make an example of someone too. He doesn’t even have to win. The process is the punishment.

      Until a conviction is obtained, it’s still all allegations.

  17. “I don’t blame Muslim and Latino students for being worried about their future, and it does seem like Trump might be having at least some effect on the tone and frequency of bulling incidents in schools.” Aaaaaaand there it is.

    1. Boy, you sure got him. Give yourself a big ole pat on the back.

    2. To be sure.

    3. Robbie implying every “Latino” student is here illegally is my excuse for not donating.

      Want to stem hurtful stereotypes? Don’t stereotype people.

  18. Students definitely shouldn’t be using the N-word*, or telling people they should be returned to slavery.

    “I’ll take shit that never happened for $500, Alex.”

    *I’m assuming this is meant to apply to unapproved usages of same.

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    2. I’m quite willing to buy 20ish possible instances of boorish kids making racist and/or hateful remarks about slavery. I’m sure nobody has ever celebrated the sophistication of 13-year-olds in American schools. And the incidence of the N-word doesn’t seem inappropriate given that kids have no historical perspective about why they can’t say it, and in fact may hear it used casually by musical artists or in films.

      1. These things might ring true for, I dunno, 1950’s Alabama. They don’t ring true at all today. They sure as hell didn’t ring true in my “inner city” high school in the 80s. If I tried that shit, I would have found myself in the hospital.

        1. There are a lot of kids out there. I’d be more surprised if no one called anyone “nigger” or said anyone should be a slave.

  19. Students definitely shouldn’t be using the N-word

    Don’t be so niggardly.

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        1. Well, she’s not niggardly.

          1. There you go calling a spade a spade.

    2. Yes, people are throwing around the term “Nazi” too loosely these days.

  20. Kids are assholes sometimes, who knew?

    This is a whole lot of people seeing what they want to see.

    1. Matt Groening before he did the Simpsons published a comic strip called Life in Hell. There is a Life in Hell book on school. In it Groening lists “things to do in 1st grade” and the first on the list is “form small tribes and brutalize outsiders.” That pretty much sums it up.

      1. Young children are psychopaths.

        1. It’s dog-eat-dog on the playground.

      2. It’s funny how almost everyone should remember this, and yet, they’re still shocked to see or hear about it.

  21. Let’s not forget that the SPLC added Ayaan Hirsi Ali to its list of anti-Muslim extremists.

    They’re intellectually bereft assholes.

  22. Do students take their cues from the president-elect? It’s possible.

    Did President Teleprompter teach them to be smug, arrogant, mendacious assholes?

    1. Uh… yeah.

      1. I think he’s more symptom than cause.

        1. But if you are a 19 or 20-year-old, he’s been President for about as long as you’ve been politically aware. Explains a lot, I think.

          1. I can see that, at least for the younger ones. Still though, it’s more a continuation of a long and whiney trend. It’s not like we were a nation of John Waynes in 2007

  23. Pussy? Really? 18 times?

    That word could be heard 18 times/recess in 1975.

    1. And anyone upset about hearing the word “pussy” probably is one.

    2. That’s back when Joe Don Baker was an action hero sex symbol right?

      1. Welp, now I’ve got the urge to watch the MST3K episode for “Mitchell” again.

        “Mitchell…even his name says, ‘Is that a beer?'”

        1. “Big old buttery moon up there. Sidewalk kinda looks like ice cream if you squint hard.”

        2. You guys watch Joe Don Baker movies?

        3. If you’re hungry, there’s a half-eaten sandwich under the couch cushion.

    3. What’s bad about it anyway? It’s just a shortened form of pusillanimous.

      1. We always assumed it was a spin-off of scaredy cat/fraidy cat.

  24. One more nitpick – haven’t read the report, but this sure seems like its a single data point. Without a baseline from an identical survey done previously, there’s absolutely no grounds for saying there is an increase.

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    3. When I was a kid we beat each other up for wearing stupid clothes or being some kind of maladjusted nerd. I never remember anyone getting into a political argument much less a fight over it. If kids are bullying each other over politics, the blame almost certainly lies with parents who have centered their entire lives and personal identities around politics and whose kids are now aping them.

      1. When I was a kid we beat each other up for wearing stupid clothes or being some kind of maladjusted nerd.

        It wouldn’t surprise me one iota if throughout history and continuing on into the future, seniority constituted the overwhelming majority of bullying. Only in populations where people are indistinguishably the same age would I expect not to find it. Otherwise, the cool 6th graders are going to ride in the back of the grade school bus and upper classmen in the back of the HS bus where the bus driver can’t see them. And both groups are going to enforce observe the respective seating arrangements with similar rigidity.

      2. I remember in second-grade, my elementary school thought it would be nice to get kids to vote, just to see what happened. The year was 1992. I voted for Bill Clinton just because of his picture, since he kind of looks like my favorite uncle. That was the full extent of my political awareness at age 9. I find it hard to believe that modern kids from ages 6-10 are much more aware than that.

        1. They usually do what they think will get the best response from the teacher.

          1. Well, they actually had a secret ballot and everything. Though naturally kids spent the next two days chatting about who they voted for. I’m sure the idea was that children at that age will almost precisely echo their parents, so they tallied the results and announced them at the end of the next day.

            One of my friends was horrified that I voted for Bill Clinton because he is “in favor of murdering children.” Which I of course took very literally and made me feel scared.

  25. “The day after the election, I broke up a fight in the locker room because of differing opinions around each student’s choice for president.” ? HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER, ILLINOIS

    But that kind of bullying has always existed.

    A fist fight isn’t bullying unless it is somehow an unfair one. And even if it were, who is to say it was the Trump supporting kid who wasn’t the one bullied?

    It is more than a bit ironic that the same people who claim to be deeply concerned about “Fake News” will take any story someone tells on the internet about Trump related bullying to be the Gospel Truth.

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  27. So far, amidst all these “bullying” stories, I’ve seen just one that involved actual harm being done to someone – the kid in Maryland who got his ass beaten by a mob for supporting Trump.

    1. There was a girl in the bay area beaten for supporting trump too

  28. Do students take their cues from the president-elect? It’s possible.

    I’ve noted an enormous surge in intellectual dishonesty over the last 8 years (see: Vox, et al)

    Thanks, Obama!

    1. So were kids giving and getting more blowjobs under Clinton?

      1. under Clinton?

        Probably

  29. The organization is invested in the idea that hate is rampant and things are basically always getting worse.

    Is it fundraising season already? Oh, how the time flies.

  30. the involuntary eyeroll upon seeing their name in print for this story was so powerful it nearly hemorrhaged my brain

  31. I’m gonna just go ahead and attack the premises here, regardless of any “evidence” of “bullying”:

    1) Bullying, properly defined, is not a good thing, but it is an instructive thing. Bullying, like all bad things, is a part of life. Learning to equip yourself with tools to properly combat it or deal with it (not running to the nearest authority figure) is a good, useful thing.

    2) I doubt much of the “bullying” is real bullying, but instead are just things that trigger sensitive snowflakes. There’s a big difference between, “I hate everything about your kind. Go back to Africa and die of AIDS” and “Trump won, and your side lost. Suck it! Haha!”

    1. Even when the bullying is real, the bully is a kid as well. I look back at the school bullies in my school and they were all pretty troubled kids with fucked up families, a lot of problems and poor prospects in life. As an adult looking back, I feel pretty bad for them now. I don’t think villainizing kids who do anything short of murder is a very good idea.

      1. I was always taught that bullies bully because they are insecure. The best way to counter them is to stand up to the them. Like most kids, I got picked on a bit. I also picked on other kids from time to time. Adults rarely, if ever, got involved. AND THEN I GREW UP INTO A REASONABLY FUNCTIONAL AND SUCCESSFUL ADULT MYSELF.

        1. And the bullies are often the ones with the most feral survival skills. So, I have no doubt that a common tactic today is to bully a kid until he responds in some way and then run to the teacher and get him punished for being a bully. Like most moral crusades, I bet the one against bullying is having the exact opposite effect intended.

          1. I freely admit to this. Guilty to the point where a school administrator had to step in and forcefully tell me to stop picking fights. The implication being that the next fight that I ‘started’ and ended without throwing a punch would boil down to the same ‘he said/he said’ as recorded by the administrator himself.

            A couple of my/the ‘victims’ were already pretty atrocious individuals who went on to do some pretty horrible things. The majority turned out to be reasonable people who quite willingly admit to being an asshole and fully understand that I was or could be just as much of one.

            1. My experience is that the grade school bullies became the high school hoods became the local town police force.

          2. I’ve got One kid in High School, 2 in middle school and you just hit the nail on the head

    2. One minor quibble, this is the age of the Internet so insults like this:

      I hate everything about your kind. Go back to Africa and die of AIDS

      Are standard fare now. Insults just aren’t effective unless they are ridiculously offensive and call for someone to be raped and/or killed. I believe it’s a sign of a more tolerant America.

      1. The more over the top they are, the more harmless they are. “I am going to kick your ass and stick your head in a toilet” is something to worry about because it might happen. “Go back to Africa and die of AIDS” is just an insult.

      2. That’s one perspective. I guess that’s true via anonymity via twitter. But, if someone said something like that to my face, I’d violate the NAP with great pleasure. That person would likely not as quickly speak that way to me again. I’d gladly take my punishment for handing them theirs.

  32. “He’s a drug addict and schizophrenic and autistic and stupid and a narcissistic masturbator!”
    “It’s true Mr Trump. I seen him smoking dope and wankering. And then he gangs up on us online with his sockpuppets and makes us cry!

    1. Even we don’t care about your sex life.

    2. Wanker and the Sockpuppets

      album: Narcissistic Masturbator

  33. Jeez, the public school environment has always been a petri dish of insults, bullying, and other bad behavior. To take kids who are brimming with energy and lock them up en masse in a boring depressing shithole for several hours a day and then complain about how they behave is the height of stupidity.

  34. Back in my day, a bully hit you. The bully liked it. I liked it. And, by God, America liked it.

    1. What Hollywood never shows is that some people like to fight and even kicking their ass doesn’t do any good. In the movies the bullies runs off when he loses the fight. In real life, he often comes back the next day for another round. And truthfully, if you fight enough, you do grow to like it after a while, win or lose.

      1. That reminds me of the scene in Stand by Me when the kid drives of the bully (Kiefer Sutherland) and his gang with the .45. They live in the same small town, so how would that work in real life? A day or two later, Ace and gang way lay the kid and beat his ass. He didn’t prevail by threatening the bully with the gun, he just made his life worse for the vengeance that he invoked.

        1. I never thought of that, but you are right. Unless he planned to carry and at some point use that gun, it was not going to turn out well for him.

        2. Or perhaps he just put off the same ass-whooping to another day.

    2. The bullies used to throw snickers bars at you, didn’t they?

      1. [runs off crying]

  35. I think it’s not necessary to enumerate the “values” of the SPLC. Using one of their “research studies” as the basis for an article reflects poorly on Reason.com IMO.

  36. I’ve certainly anecdotally noticed an uptick in hate directed toward me because I apparently “stole” a vote from HRC. Like, you know, woman traitor n’ shit.

    1. Madeline Albright is going to kick your ass.

      1. She’d have to stand on a box to do it. You couldn’t even see her hat when her security detail closed up.

    2. Never let the people you work with know your politics. There is no upside to it.

      1. My former colleagues were almost all libertarian/conservative. No idea where my new colleagues stand, and they don’t know where I stand.

        This “hate” was on various blogs, in person (those Gary Johnson bumper stickers give it away, every time), and on the Facederps.

        1. My liberal friends have been pretty nice about things. I think they are in too much shock to be angry.

      2. Good advice. I remember being blackballed from a fraternity because I wore a Goldwater button and apparently some minimum number of “brothers” objected. I always hoped these LBJ lovers got their asses packed off to Vietnam after graduation.

    3. The funny thing is if you presume all of the votes that went to GJ or Jill “No Vax” Stine in several of the narrowly won Hilary states (Like VA), went to Trump, the third party candidates ‘stole’ a state from Trump.

  37. MEANWHILE THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NO CONFRONTATIONAL OR NEGATIVE TONE IN RESPONSE TO THE ELECTION OF BARACK OBAMA. I MEAN IT’S NOT LIKE HE WAS ELECTED BY A RACIST PERSONALITY CULT OR ANYTHING.

    FFS can we PLEASE stop paying attention to this NONSENSE HYPERVENTILATION? It’s JUST AN ELECTION.

  38. Yeh. I’m gonna go ahead and call bull shit.

    This is going to be a self-fulfilling prophecy.

    And it won’t end well for anybody if they keep fabricating panics like this.

  39. I’m sure that, before Trump came on the scene, no high school boy ever used the word “pussy.” Clearly that’s something they would have zero interest in, until Trump got them all talking about it.

  40. So advocating enforcement of federal law now counts as “bullying”…?

  41. Saying “Trump” is hate speech.
    See? Now we have a hate-speech epidemic.
    It’s fun and easy!

    1. This is literally what happened on some college campuses. Snowflakes got angry, scared, and offended that, in addition to the “Vote for Hillary” materials available on campus, someone wrote “Trump 2016” on the pavement in chalk. The name itself was a hate-crime or a bias incident.

  42. There is a Hoax Presumption: Pro-trump “hate crimes” are hoaxes until proven otherwise. Burden is on the claimants. NOW FUCKING PROVE IT

  43. A sketch on “Bullying” by Million Dollar Extreme*

  44. Students definitely shouldn’t be using the N-word, or telling people they should be returned to slavery. But merely exclaiming “build the wall” isn’t necessarily an act of malice. Is it not, in some sense, a public policy position? A bad public policy position, but a legitimate one.

    Care to explain why telling people they should be returned to slavery isn’t a public policy position?

    1. Well, I can think of some good reasons why it isn’t a legitimate policy position. But it certainly is a policy position.

      1. Well it’s an insufferably bad policy, but illegitimate? I mean if moral considerations about a policy determines a policy’s “legitimacy”, then clearly nothing the government does owing to one stolen cent of other people’s money is legitimate, which is a position I agree with for the record. I’m just going to assume that you’re a deontological anarcho-capitalist from here on out.

  45. Oh by the way. Way to light the Hihn signal Robbie.

  46. The Southern Poverty Law Center has produced another report in support of its thesis that the election of Donald Trump has unleashed a wave of racist, sexist, anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim bullying in American schools.

    Welp, I’m convinced. It’s not like the SPLC has any kind of ideological axe to grind or anything. /sarc

  47. As I noted in an earlier post, we don’t yet have any actual data on bullying rates for 2016. Therefore, we should be cautious about making sweeping generalizations about the state of affairs.

    That’s no way to build a narrative.

    Seriously though, the same assholes who bullied other kids before are going to continue to find anything they can use to continue to bully others now. If a bully knows that his favorite target is shitting their pants over Trump’s election, they’ll use that as ammunition, but if Clinton had won they’d find some other weapon to use against their favorite targets. It doesn’t matter to the bully so long as they make their target’s life miserable.

  48. The SPLC has so little credibility at this point that if I was in an elevator with Morris Dees and he correctly told me the color of my shoes I still wouldn’t believe him.

  49. “”The day after the election, I broke up a fight in the locker room because of differing opinions around each student’s choice for president.” ? HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER, ILLINOIS”

    Was this a fight? Or bullying? Fights in schools are not always prompted by bullies. Kids fight. Did they pad the numbers with fights to “prove” bullying?

  50. Students definitely shouldn’t be using the N-word, or telling people they should be returned to slavery.

    Nincompoop?

  51. I would pay good money to see any of these grievance mongers put on some trump gear and walk around my neighborhood for a couple of hours.
    Then maybe if they live through the night, they can reassess their thoughts on this bullying epidemic.

    1. So much this. Rock that MAGA hat in downtown Oakland or Berkeley, see how free speech and expression Team Blue country works out for you.

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