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A.M. Links: Trump Says American Flag-Burners Should Face 'Loss of Citizenship,' Obamacare Critic Tom Price Named Trump's Health Secretary

Damon Root | 11.29.2016 9:00 AM

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    Donald Trump: "Nobody should be allowed to burn the American flag - if they do, there must be consequences - perhaps loss of citizenship or year in jail!"

  • Donald Trump has picked Rep. Tom Price of Georgia, an Obamacare critic, to serve as his secretary of health and human services.
  • Mitt Romney and Donald Trump will reportedly meet for a private dinner tonight.
  • "A plane carrying 81 people, including a top Brazilian football team, has crashed on its approach to the city of Medellin in Colombia."
  • Bruno Kahl, Germany's foreign intelligence chief, warns that Russia could use cyber attacks to "disrupt" next year's German elections.
  • South Korean President Park Geun-hye says that she will resign in the wake of a corruption scandal.

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Damon Root is a senior editor at Reason and the author of A Glorious Liberty: Frederick Douglass and the Fight for an Antislavery Constitution (Potomac Books).

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   9 years ago

    Let's work to get Reason off the fake news list!

    1. Rufus The Monocled   9 years ago

      Hello.

      "Mitt Romney and Donald Trump will reportedly meet for a private dinner tonight."

      What's on the menu? DOES ANYONE DO THEIR JOBS ANYMORE?

    2. Rich   9 years ago

      I'M WITH YOU!!

      1. Fist of Etiquette   9 years ago

        Or on it. Whichever gets them more views, I guess.

        1. Rich   9 years ago

          Cynicism FTW.

    3. Auric Demonocles   9 years ago

      They'd need alt-text to manage that.

  2. Bee Tagger   9 years ago

    Donald Trump: "Nobody should be allowed to burn the American flag - if they do, there must be consequences - perhaps loss of citizenship or year in jail!"

    Just wait until he tweets about wearing an American flag.

    1. LynchPin1477   9 years ago

      The 1A is so fucked

      1. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

        It's bluster.

        I'm 80% sure this issue was already ruled on by the courts.

        1. BigT   9 years ago

          It's the 1988 election campaign all over again! Deja vu

        2. LynchPin1477   9 years ago

          It's bluster, but I'd wager that a significant portion of the country would be on board with it. And if you switched "burn American flag" with "fly Confederate flag" I'd wager a different but even larger fraction would be on board.

          1. Free Society   9 years ago

            You really think "the South will rise again" crowd is bigger than the "don't burn my country's flag" crowd? I guess everyone is racist except you. Now go forth and signal your superior virtues.

            1. Dan S.   9 years ago

              No, he seems to be saying that the people who want to criminalize the "South will rise again" crowd is a bigger group than those who want to do it to burners of the U.S. flag. I tend to doubt that, but whatever. Burning the U.S. flag, flying (what people think of as) the confederate flag, or doing the reverse, all need to be protected by law. And they are, and will continue to be. That the man who will be our next president says otherwise is very sad, and yes, a bit scary. But since the president doesn't decide that, not that scary.

              1. Scarecrow & WoodChipper Repair   9 years ago

                Every election is the same -- the chosen candidate says and even tries to do some awful stoopid things. My gut reaction is always the same disgust and horror and surprise, but a second later, I imagine what the opponent would have done, and realize it doesn't matter.

                So --- imagine what Hillary would already be pounding on about. Imagine who her rumored cabinet picks would be, her day one agenda. Your blood pressure will drop.

          2. Krabappel   9 years ago

            Your Honours, I'm not some slick, big-city lawyer like my opponent here. But I am a veteran who has fought for his planet. You see this hand of mine? No, you don't [He takes it off.] 'Cause I lost my real hand plantin' the flag when we took back Halley's Comet! Yet it was worth it, so much do I love that flag. [The bench sobs.] I love it even more than I love my seven wives -- that's right, I'm a polygamist. [The court "boos".] Yet I would gladly eat a flag myself, had I not used my intestine as a rope to hoist a flag made of my own skin, if it would protect the freedoms of the proud people who salute that flag. [The court cheers.] Freedom such as polygamy. [The court "boos".] I rest my case.

    2. WTF   9 years ago

      The left should be on board with this idea to criminalize hate speech.

      1. PBR Streetgang   9 years ago

        Seriously. Wasn't one of Clinton's campaign planks choosing Justices who would overturn specific 1A precedent?

    3. Brett L   9 years ago

      I never cared enough before, but I might go buy one and burn it in my back yard just to have done it.

    4. Brett L   9 years ago

      There's a group called Being Libertarian on FB who is constantly fighting with people about this. They call the anti-flag burners flaggots. I laugh.

      1. Atanarjuat   9 years ago

        I just saw that yesterday. Good stuff. I never post political shit on Facebook, but I will troll others' political posts.

    5. Lee Genes   9 years ago

      I'm on board with a National Burn a Flag for the 1st Amendment Day

      1. Rich   9 years ago

        Um, do we get the day off for that?

        1. Lee Genes   9 years ago

          Sure thing, everybody except the federal government gets the day off.

      2. spqr2008   9 years ago

        It would be hilarious to set up a Burn a Flag for the 1st Amendment day, then set them all up to be flag destroying ceremonies, like they do in Scout camps nationwide. At one of my jobs, we donate the used flags to the scout camp just north of the property, and they destroy 4-6 a week during the summer with a ceremony. It would be an epic troll just to say it's Burn a Flag day, then destroy them respectfully, with the media looking on. Almost as epic as Trump announcing he wasn't a birther anymore.

    6. Lord Humungus   9 years ago

      Master troll moment? Or DT just being DT?

      I can't tell the difference anymore.

      1. Suthenboy   9 years ago

        There's a difference?

        1. Lord Humungus   9 years ago

          exactly.

          1. Mr Drew   9 years ago

            I think the trolling is baked in. I no longer think he is choosing, consciously to troll, I now think it is just his nature. He is a troll savant. And it's working for him but how are we supposed to take anything seriously? I'm afraid that we are all going to wind up in camps because we ignored "wear your underpants on your head" day because we all assumed that he was just fucking with the media again.

            1. Suthenboy   9 years ago

              I laughed.

      2. Crusty Juggler   9 years ago

        I don't know how that statement is trolling. He really has to stop Tweeting now that he is the new president.

        "Putin bad. Now we go to war."

    7. ant1sthenes   9 years ago

      The flag is a symbol of liberty. People who value the symbol of a thing over the thing itself are... weird. Reminds me of the plot of Small Gods in some ways.

  3. Fist of Etiquette   9 years ago

    Mitt Romney and Donald Trump will reportedly meet for a private dinner tonight.

    The press don't even want to attend this one.

  4. Bee Tagger   9 years ago

    South Korean President Park Geun-hye says that she will resign in the wake of a corruption scandal.

    She certainly didn't learn this behavior from watching us.

    1. Rich   9 years ago

      ROR

      1. Swiss Servator   9 years ago

        *narrows gaze*

        1. WTF   9 years ago

          *nallows gaze*

          1. Rich   9 years ago

            It's lacism arr the way down!

  5. Joe M   9 years ago

    Mitt Romney and Donald Trump will reportedly meet for a private dinner tonight.

    Geez, Trump even wants to privatize meals. Is there anything he won't stop at to crush our noble public institutions?

  6. Lord Humungus   9 years ago

    Fidel Castro was an unwavering champion of racial equality

    Castro's commitment to black Americans was shown early on, notably in 1960, when he came to New York City fresh from his leftist revolution in Cuba, and sat with Malcolm X in Harlem, cameras clicking for all the world to see.

    Five years later Malcolm X was assassinated, and many are still convinced the U.S. government was involved.

    Meanwhile Castro continued his commitment to racial fairness, a commitment that seemed evident in his face as he sat in fraternal delight that day in Harlem.

    In Cuba, before the Castro revolution, the city of Santa Clara was known for its entrenched racial segregation that was much like that of the American South. Residents of Santa Clara were known for their leisurely strolls around Vidal Park. But as they walked they did so in separate lines, "negros" on one and "blancos" on the other. Such traditions ended after Castro came to power.

    The most telling manifestation of Castro's determination to stand against racism came in the 1980s. That was when Cuba sent 25,000 troops to fight in Angola alongside factions opposing the old apartheid government of South Africa.

    1. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

      Everyone will be ground underfoot equally!

      1. Joe M   9 years ago

        A chicken in every pot, a bullet in every skull.

    2. Chipwooder   9 years ago

      Tell it to Oscar Biscet

    3. Rufus The Monocled   9 years ago

      Oh, really? Quite the sick, immoral liar Ron is.

      http://www.faithwire.com/2016/.....tro-today/

      1. Suthenboy   9 years ago

        What's this? Ron? To what are you referring?

        1. Suthenboy   9 years ago

          Oh. Nevermind. When someone here refers to Ron I automatically think Bailey.

    4. Rufus The Monocled   9 years ago

      "Howell teaches English and journalism at Brooklyn College."

      Outstanding.

      'Brav.

    5. Aloysious   9 years ago

      by Ron Howell

      *adds Ron Howell to ever expanding list of fucking idiots*

    6. Atanarjuat   9 years ago

      in a similar vein, for those who haven't seen it

    7. CatoTheChipper   9 years ago

      The MSM coverage on the untimely death of Fidel Castro is a great example of fake news.

      ("Untimely" in the sense that the world would have been a better place if the commie dictator had met his fate at the gallows fifty-five years ago.)

  7. Fist of Etiquette   9 years ago

    Bruno Kahl, Germany's foreign intelligence chief, warns that Russia could use cyber attacks to "disrupt" next year's German elections.

    Is Hillary running there, too?

  8. Bee Tagger   9 years ago

    Mitt Romney and Donald Trump will reportedly meet for a private dinner tonight.

    Just Mitt, Donald, and twitter.

  9. BigT   9 years ago

    Trudeau love at the Grey Cup.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgktEINkZcs

    1. Rufus The Monocled   9 years ago

      He did touch a nerve. Even the CBC had to grudgingly acknowledge what he did was stupid. But they'll go back to repairing his image; after all, they spent a lot of time and effort building this dope up.

      He won't attend the funeral. Problem is, he sent the Governor-General at our expense. Canada shouldn't send anyone but if they must, send a low level official.

      1. BigT   9 years ago

        Does he fly coach or on MapleSyrup One?

        1. Rufus The Monocled   9 years ago

          That's another thing. He needs to knock it off with the selfies and the traveling. I get the feeling he travels - in addition because he can - because he honestly thinks Canada lost its 'reputation' internationally. Ironically, he's done more damage than he could have imagined. Just a guess and hunch on my part.

  10. Lord Humungus   9 years ago

    House Dems brace for Wednesday's secret ballot

    Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), facing a challenge from Rep. Tim Ryan (D-Ohio), is seen as the heavy favorite in elections on Wednesday to keep her top leadership spot, where she's been perched for the past 14 years.

    Democrats will decide on their new leader in a secret ballot vote that highlights the caucus's restlessness and resurrects internal tensions that have simmered since Democrats lost control of the lower chamber in 2010.

    While House Democrats gained at least six seats this cycle ? several contests remain too close to call ? that figure was a far cry from the 25 pickups Pelosi had predicted. Seeking more accountability for the dismal results, dozens of restive lawmakers successfully delayed the party's leadership elections to this week to allow more time for reckoning. But in the eyes of Ryan and his supporters, nothing short of a change at the top will get the party back on a winning track.

    1. DJF   9 years ago

      So the war on women in the Democratic Party continues. They failed to elect Hillary and now they are going after Nancy!

      1. Lee Genes   9 years ago

        I think to be classified as a woman, you have to be human first. I'm not sure about Pelosi, I think it's more likely she's an alien.

        1. Eternal Blue Sky   9 years ago

          Nah.

          I mean, sure, her parents came from outer space, but Pelosi herself was hatched as a sleeper agent within the borders of the United States, making her a citizen and not an alien.

        2. CatoTheChipper   9 years ago

          Now that you mention it, maybe there is something to that reptilian alien theory.

    2. Brett L   9 years ago

      Please, God. Watching the sanctimonious white women on FB get the cat's ass mouth pucker at their own party's behavior would be so, so worth it. I'm so fucking sick of being lectured by white women with degrees whose idea of a hard time is drinking box wine and taking cruises instead of ecotours so they can pay their student loans.

      1. Atanarjuat   9 years ago

        You don't even see your own privilege, do you?

        1. Brett L   9 years ago

          Every time I open FB, I thank the universe that I am privileged not to live their lives.

      2. Mr Lizard   9 years ago

        Nothing a load a green slimy love goo from your favorite reptile. Seriously I'm free all weekend, and don't mind debasing myself long enough to inject a batch of act-right in these female mammals.

    3. Red Rocks Dickin Bimbos   9 years ago

      Except for 2006, Pelosi's time in the Dems top House spot has been wholly disastrous for them. They can't even make the case that she's good for cross-ticket races because she's fucking ancient and seen as the establishment now.

      1. Bobarian (Would Chip Her)   9 years ago

        She's absolute poison to any dem running anywhere not already hard left.

  11. Joe M   9 years ago

    The OSU attacker's motive was entirely political/religious: Ohio State attacker complained bitterly in Facebook post of treatment of Muslims 'everywhere,' reports say

    1. BigT   9 years ago

      Blowback from the Michigan win?

      1. Rich   9 years ago

        ISIS for Michigan

      2. Red Rocks Dickin Bimbos   9 years ago

        #HackABuckeyeForDearborn

    2. Suthenboy   9 years ago

      See. Trump's fault.

    3. Eternal Blue Sky   9 years ago

      So... Democrat fearmongering drove him too it??

    4. I can't even   9 years ago

      So logic dictates that killing a bunch of people will lead to better treatment of Muslims.

      When the only tool in the Koran is a hammer (or one of those big curved swords)...

      1. CatoTheChipper   9 years ago

        It's called a scimitar.

      2. Chip Woodier   9 years ago

        It seems he just wanted everyone to know Islam better. He's a better Muslim today than he was yesterday.

        1. ant1sthenes   9 years ago

          He can certainly now be reclassified as a good Muslim.

      3. Half-Virtue, Half-Vice   9 years ago

        ... is this a Skyrim joke or am I just too far gone?

        1. BenG   9 years ago

          Could easily be both.

    5. ant1sthenes   9 years ago

      The post... ends with a criticism of Western media, asserting that if Muhammad were alive today he'd be labeled a terrorist.

      I'm skeptical, judging by the media's treatment of Castro. It would be unusual for them to actually get a label right.

  12. Fist of Etiquette   9 years ago

    Donald Trump has picked Rep. Tom Price of Georgia, an Obamacare critic, to serve as his secretary of health and human services.

    Four years of HHS staff having to listen to him complain about Obamacare all day.

    1. Brett L   9 years ago

      This and BB&T CEO Alison would do more good for the US than just about any other picks.

      1. Juice   9 years ago

        OMG! That would be a dream pick for Treasury.

      2. CatoTheChipper   9 years ago

        This is the sort of thing that makes Trump better than Hillary.

        At least he's not 100% wrong on everything.

        The problem is that where he's wrong, he's wrong outside of normal parameters as PJ would say. Citizenship revocation for flag burning, for example.

        1. Free Society   9 years ago

          That's a good way to put it.

        2. Brett L   9 years ago

          I'm not disagreeing with what you are saying, but his most flamboyantly unconstitutional positions seem to be on things that he has no interest in actually doing anything about.

          1. Bobarian (Would Chip Her)   9 years ago

            Or capable of doing anything about.

            Which he probably realizes and therefore can use to twist lefty tails.

  13. Lord Humungus   9 years ago

    Is Sasquatch Being Added To California's Endangered Species List?

    Watch as people sign the petition to put Sasquatch, or the man/animal better known as Big Foot, on the California endangered list.

    Mark Dice is known for exposing the ignorance of Americans in hilarious fashion and this video is no different.

    Watch as Mark films person after person signing the petition to put Big Foot on the endangered species list in California.

    1. Rich   9 years ago

      Dice offered ten different people a chance to take a 100-ounce bar of silver or a Hersey's chocolate bar. ... Guess how many selected the silver?

      Just Sasquatch?

      1. Citizen X   9 years ago

        WANT TO KNOW WHAT STEVE SMITH DO WITH BAR OF SILVER?

        1. Lord Humungus   9 years ago

          STORE IN REPOSITORY. AND BY REPOSITORY I MEAN YOUR ANAL CAVITY.

          1. Bobarian (Would Chip Her)   9 years ago

            SUPOSITORY REPOSITORY.

    2. Swiss Servator   9 years ago

      STEVE SMITH APPRECIATE SENTIMENT. WILL SHOW APPRECIATION BY RAPING MARK DICE.

    3. Red Rocks Dickin Bimbos   9 years ago

      STEVE SMITH RARE NOT ENDANGERED...ONLY HIKERS NEAR STEVE SMITH ENDANGERED!

  14. Bee Tagger   9 years ago

    Donald Trump has picked Rep. Tom Price of Georgia, an Obamacare critic, to serve as his secretary of health and human services.

    I thought the election was over. Do we still have to pretend anything will happen to Obamacare?

    1. Princess Trigger   9 years ago

      Didn't you hear?
      He's a CRITIC.

  15. Lord Humungus   9 years ago

    Ohio State stabbing suspect Abdul Razak Artan was profiled in "Humans of Ohio State" in The Lantern

    1. Joe M   9 years ago

      It's mindblowing how he's so concerned about the way the media is portraying Muslims, and says he's the one who is afraid, then he turns around and tries to kill a bunch of innocents in exactly the way that people fear Muslims will do.

      1. Chipwooder   9 years ago

        How dare people stereotype Muslims as violent lunatics! That makes me so angry that I'm going to start stabbing random people with a butcher knife!

        1. Rich   9 years ago

          *** wrings hands ***

          We have to do *something*!

          1. WTF   9 years ago

            Moar gun control!

    2. Certified Public Asshat   9 years ago

      His head is shaped like a peanut.

      1. SugarFree   9 years ago

        Like Mr. Peanut? So he was a libertarian?

        1. Brett L   9 years ago

          I mean, the only guy more libertarian is Uncle Scrooge. And the Monopoly guy.

  16. Rich   9 years ago

    "there must be consequences - perhaps loss of citizenship or year in jail!"

    This is Trump talking about *Hillary*, right? RIGHT?!

    1. DJF   9 years ago

      No, he is making her the US ambassidor to Libya

      1. Rich   9 years ago

        Excellent.

      2. DJF   9 years ago

        Making Bush II ambassador to Iraq would be an excellent choice too.

        1. Brett L   9 years ago

          He's getting a little long in the tooth to dodge shoes.

        2. DJF   9 years ago

          While I am at it I nominate McCain as ambassador to Syria.

          1. BigT   9 years ago

            Obama has a sad.

            [Oh wait, maybe I can get Cuba!]

  17. Lord Humungus   9 years ago

    Jews get attacked 2.5X more than Muslims in America. Muslims get 25X more headlines.

    The latest FBI Hate Crimes statistics report, for 2015, shows that the number of antisemitic hate crimes increased by 9% last year, from 609 to 664.

    Hate crimes against Jews outnumber hate crimes against every other religious group.

    But anti-Muslim hate crimes increased sharply, by 67%, so most of the news headlines concentrate on how awful that is. But still, it is only 257 attacks, far less than the number of antisemitic attacks.

    I'm not saying that it is great, and it is a worrying trend, but Jews remain far more likely to be targets of hate crimes in America than Muslims are. Yet most of the news stories barely mention that.

    1. Lee Genes   9 years ago

      It's racist to talk about hate crimes against Jews, since they're most likely going to be committed by Muslims.

    2. Chipwooder   9 years ago

      Are these actual crimes, or are they the "Muslim girl claims random woman tried to pull her hijab off" variety of Hate Crimes?

    3. Eternal Blue Sky   9 years ago

      Problem with these stats:

      Antisemetic incidents: 664
      Antimuslim incidents: 257

      On the base of it, looks like there's way more discrimination towards Jews. BUT.

      Number of Jews in America: 5,425,000
      Number of Muslims in America: 3,300,000

      Percent of Jews affected by antisemitism based on above: 1.2%
      Percent of Muslims affected by antimuslim incidents based on above: 0.8%

      By this metric, Jews still are "affected" by antisemitism "more" but the numbers are a measly 0.4% away from each other, and both are overwhelmingly tiny. It's pretty much the same. Each year 1 in 100 Jews and 1 in 100 Muslims experience discrimination.

      Plus I'd be interested to see how much the total incident reports drop even further when you factor out all incidents of "criticized Islam" and "criticized Israel" from the equation.

      1. CatoTheChipper   9 years ago

        Your percentages are off by three orders of magnitude.

        664 is 0.012% of 5,425,000. Not 1.2%.

    4. Princess Trigger   9 years ago

      You do know who controls the Media, don't you?

  18. The Late P Brooks   9 years ago

    South Korean President Park Geun-hye says that she will resign in the wake of a corruption scandal.

    Fucking amateurs.

  19. Lord Humungus   9 years ago

    Cops: Fla. woman urinates, defecates in police car after tossing dog into traffic

    Officers first encountered Arlene Mena after they were called to a 7-Eleven convenience store in Hollywood, Florida, where employees said Mena had stolen three Yuengling beers, according to police.

    An officer spotted Mena leaving the scene, crossing a street while carrying a small dog. They say when she saw the officer, she began to run, but soon fell down. Police say she then threw the dog into oncoming traffic.

    Police said the officer then chased after the dog to save it from cars and was almost struck by multiple vehicles in the process. He eventually caught the dog, which was unharmed in the incident.

    Mena was then put in the back of the patrol car, where she allegedly kicked the back seat window and banged on the vehicle's plexiglass partition.

    Police said the officer warned Mena that she would be pepper-sprayed if she did not stop kicking the window, and when she continued, he lowered the rear window and sprayed her.

    Mena then allegedly urinated, defecated and spat in the car in retaliation, according to police.

    1. Swiss Servator   9 years ago

      Ah, Florida Woman - never change!

      1. Brett L   9 years ago

        Hollywood, FL is like the anti-Hollywood, CA. Nobody is attractive, rich, or classy.

        1. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

          Nobody is classy in Hollywood, CA either.

          1. geo1113   9 years ago

            At least those in Hollywood, FL know they aren't classy.

          2. Brett L   9 years ago

            Substitute well-dressed.

    2. Rich   9 years ago

      Now, *that* is a headline!

  20. The Late P Brooks   9 years ago

    Donald Trump: "Nobody should be allowed to burn the American flag - if they do, there must be consequences - perhaps loss of citizenship or year in jail!"

    Boy Scouts hardest hit.

    1. Brett L   9 years ago

      VFW second.

  21. SugarFree   9 years ago

    "A plane carrying 81 people, including a top Brazilian football team, has crashed on its approach to the city of Medellin in Colombia."

    Let the feast begin!

    1. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

      Too close to civilization.

      1. Rich   9 years ago

        You guys are killing me!

        1. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

          No, we'll let the cold do that.

          1. Rich   9 years ago

            Brr!

          2. commodious got a stew going   9 years ago

            Cold, man.

    2. BigT   9 years ago

      Too soon!

      1. Fist of Etiquette   9 years ago

        YES. FEAST OF TASTELESS, TOO SOON, AND QUITE FRANKLY OBVIOUS JOKES, I GUESS.

        1. Citizen X   9 years ago

          Oh shit, is STEVE SMITH there?!?

          1. WTF   9 years ago

            No, he's in Columbia raping the survivors. Or first responders, either way.

            1. BigT   9 years ago

              Dead, survivors, first responders....

              Eat, rape, kill?

              1. SugarFree   9 years ago

                That was the name of STEVE SMITH's book about finding himself after his divorce.

                1. Bobarian (Would Chip Her)   9 years ago

                  Holy fuck...

                  Coffee thru the nose and everyone looking strange at me for giggling for 30 seconds.

            2. commodious got a stew going   9 years ago

              See, this is why we double tap.

  22. Lord Humungus   9 years ago

    Egyptian Archaeologists Just Discovered a 7,000-Year-Old Lost City Along the Nile

    The Egyptian Ministry of Antiquities announced it excavated parts of Abydos, a "lost city" they believe dates back to 5,316 BCE and could have been part of the first capital of one of the earliest Egyptian empires. So far at the dig site, the team has uncovered fragments and remnants of houses, tools, utensils and at least 15 elaborate tombs belonging to royals.

    On Wednesday, the Ministry's head Mahmoud Afify made the announcement and stressed the importance of the discovery, saying it could lead to new information on Abydos and on ancient Egyptian history in general. On Thursday, the Ministry took to Facebook to share photos of the excavated site.

    1. Lee Genes   9 years ago

      Ben Carson gets excited.

      1. SugarFree   9 years ago

        7,000 years is older than the age of the Earth, so this so-called city is obviously a trick by the Devil!

        1. bacon-magic   9 years ago

          Tricknologists were the culprits.

    2. Get To Da Chippah   9 years ago

      Anything Ark-like in appearance?

      1. Mickey Rat   9 years ago

        Or a large ring with symbols along tbe edge?

  23. Idle Hands   9 years ago

    Donald Trump: "Nobody should be allowed to burn the American flag - if they do, there must be consequences - perhaps loss of citizenship or year in jail!"

    TTRROOOLLL!!!

  24. Fist of Etiquette   9 years ago

    "A plane carrying 81 people, including a top Brazilian football team, has crashed on its approach to the city of Medellin in Colombia."

    Never fly any airline from Venezuela.

    1. Juice   9 years ago

      I don't think they ever will again.

  25. The Late P Brooks   9 years ago

    I never cared enough before, but I might go buy one and burn it in my back yard just to have done it.

    Note to self:

    BURNING FLAG T-SHIRTS.

  26. Lord Humungus   9 years ago

    Montreal transit agency takes back $101 fine it gave man for offering free hugs on metro (he had no permit)

    Montreal's transit authority has rescinded a $101 fine it levied on a man who was offering commuters "free hugs" in the Jean-Talon m?tro station last week.

    Tommy Boucher, 29, literally opened his arms to strangers on the m?tro platform last Tuesday when he was approached by transit inspectors. They were drawn to his t-shirt, which read "free hugs," and asked him to present his permit.

    "I asked, 'Which permit?' " Boucher wrote on his blog, where he also posted photos of himself with his t-shirt on the subway.

    The inspectors then cited Boucher because he violated a section of the transit system's bylaws that prohibits people from selling or offering services without a permit.

    Related

    1. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

      "Selling"? "Free"? The inspectors need a remedial language lesson.

    2. Trolleric the Goth   9 years ago

      oh my god, underage kids drinking hugging without a permit!

    3. Chipwooder   9 years ago

      I smell an occupational licensing opportunity! We can't have unqualified people giving hugs out all willy-nilly.

      1. Chip Woodier   9 years ago

        I didn't spend six years in hug school just to compete with free hugging amateurs , thank you very much!

      2. Darth Squirrel   9 years ago

        WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN

  27. Rich   9 years ago

    House Dems brace for Wednesday's secret ballot

    Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), facing a challenge from Rep. Tim Ryan (D-Ohio), is seen as the heavy favorite in elections on Wednesday to keep her top leadership spot, where she's been perched for the past 14 years.

    Serious question: WTF is it with Pelosi?

    1. SugarFree   9 years ago

      She's the Trump of the left. That she is annoying and hated by their enemies means she's some sort of secret super-genius and that makes her qualified for the job.

      1. Rich   9 years ago

        the Trump of the left

        Nice band name.

      2. Idle Hands   9 years ago

        She also raises a ton of money.

        1. SugarFree   9 years ago

          Like a hooker, people pay her to go away.

          1. commodious got a stew going   9 years ago

            God damn you.

            1. SugarFree   9 years ago

              Too late.

          2. Idle Hands   9 years ago

            How much the "Other team hates so I give bucco bucks to person" mentality affects fundraising numbers is an interesting question. It's kind of like a chicken and the egg thing is Nancy Pelosi hated because she is a national figure or is she national figure because she is hated?

            1. SugarFree   9 years ago

              Familiarity breeds contempt.

              1. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

                Now I know something's wrong - SugarFree is quoting me.

            2. Yusef Adama   9 years ago

              Bucco? or Beaucoup?
              /pedant

        2. commodious got a stew going   9 years ago

          You don't pay her for the service, you pay her to leave.

    2. Aloysious   9 years ago

      Judging by her rictus grin, she's the first walking mummy to lead a major party.

      1. BigT   9 years ago

        Um....Wilson 1919-1920??

        1. Aloysious   9 years ago

          He was bed-ridden. Pelosi walks among us, endlessly grinning.

    3. Idle Hands   9 years ago

      She raises a ton of money.

  28. Lord Humungus   9 years ago

    Canada's Trudeau to skip Castro funeral after backlash

    Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau will not attend the funeral of Fidel Castro, his office said on Monday, days after Trudeau's warm comments about the late Cuban leader sparked a backlash.

    Trudeau referred on Saturday to Castro as a "remarkable leader" and expressed his sorrow at the death of "Cuba's longest serving president."

    Trudeau acknowledged on Sunday that Castro had been a dictator as political opponents called on him to boycott the funeral.

    Outrage and mockery about Trudeau's fond words for Castro, who had been an honorary pallbearer at the funeral in 2000 of Trudeau's father, former Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau, has threatened to end the Liberal leader's long honeymoon.

    1. Rufus The Monocled   9 years ago

      As mentioned up front, they're sending the Gov-Gen on our dime.

      Not any better.

      Pall bearer. Think of that. Pierre had a murderer carry his coffin.

    2. Rich   9 years ago

      Pussy.

    3. SugarFree   9 years ago

      Aw, c'mon... let him go to his Dad's funeral.

      1. WTF   9 years ago

        He does look an awful lot like a young Fidel. And his mom was a rather promiscuous admirer of Castro....

        1. Brett L   9 years ago

          Has anyone else seen the Australian movie Children of the Revolution? Aussie communist lady gets invited to meet Stalin, has a one night stand with him. Fast forward to her having a baby.

  29. Trolleric the Goth   9 years ago

    a plane crashed in Medellin? Pablo Escobar must have done it

    1. DOOMco   9 years ago

      no more extradition!

  30. chemjeff   9 years ago

    "Mitt Romney and Donald Trump will reportedly meet for a private dinner tonight."

    So, odds on Trump starting a food fight?

    1. Citizen X   9 years ago

      "Mitt. Hey, Mitt. While you were in the bathroom, i rubbed my balls all over your steak. What do you think of that?"

      1. Swiss Servator   9 years ago

        *gags whilst applauding*

      2. TheZeitgeist   9 years ago

        *Mitt starts eating - nay, savoring - the steak

        "Wow, you really DO want to be Secretary of State!"

    2. Episteme   9 years ago

      ""Mitt Romney and Donald Trump will reportedly meet for a private dinner tonight."

      Are they eating that Brazilian soccer team?

  31. chemjeff   9 years ago

    So Donald Trump thinks flag burning should be illegal.

    Interestingly, from the linked article:

    "A 2005 bill that would have reinstituted a ban on flag burning was co-sponsored by Hillary Clinton, then a senator from New York. That legislation was unsuccessful. "

    Yet one more issue on which Trump and Hillary agree!

  32. Lee Genes   9 years ago

    Trump is nuckin' futs, that's all I'm sayin'

    Trump is more seriously mentally ill than we think. He is looking more like a paranoid schizophrenic psychopath. He is lashing out at everything and everyone who even dares to criticize him. His obsessive tweeting and his escape from reality or restraint gets worse everyday. We are still far off from inauguration and what we see is a person like the creature from the movie Alien.

    He will too have access to the nuclear arsenal, all of our intelligence apparatus and the US military. He will be Commander In Chief of all our military and security forces.

    And we have a GOP that will NOT check him or his impulses because they do not believe in governing. If anything they want to shut down the federal government, privatize it and send most of it back to the states. We will have cabinet members who want to shut down and turn their agencies against the American people.

    We can thank Trump humpers for what we will now face.

    1. Citizen X   9 years ago

      He is looking more like a paranoid schizophrenic psychopath

      Well, a DU regular would know.

    2. Idle Hands   9 years ago

      Trump humpers

      So kind of like tub thumpers but different? The 90's band Chumbawamba called and wants it song back.

    3. WTF   9 years ago

      they want to shut down the federal government, privatize it and send most of it back to the states

      If only.

      1. Lee Genes   9 years ago

        want to shut down and turn their agencies against the American people

        If they're shut down, how can they be turned against anyone?

        1. Citizen X   9 years ago

          Forget it, dude, he's rolling.

    4. Chipwooder   9 years ago

      Oh, are they now in favor of armchair diagnoses? Because they got kind of aggravated when people were doing that to Hillary.

    5. Mercutio   9 years ago

      [Republicans] want to shut down the federal government, privatize it and send most of it back to the states.

      Would that this were true.

  33. AddictionMyth   9 years ago

    Flag burning is not protected speech. Trump gets that. That's why I supported him.

    1. Citizen X   9 years ago

      "Pay attention to meee!" the troll explained.

      1. Swiss Servator   9 years ago

        He is wanking harder lately, ne?

        1. WTF   9 years ago

          Go easy on him, it's all he has left.

          1. AddictionMyth   9 years ago

            This is starting to get interesting....

  34. Lord Humungus   9 years ago

    Amazon Worker Jumps Off Company Building After E-Mail Note

    An Amazon.com Inc. employee was injured when he leaped off a building at the company's Seattle headquarters in what police characterized as a suicide attempt.

    The man, who wasn't identified by authorities, sent an e-mail visible to hundreds of co-workers, including Chief Executive Officer Jeff Bezos, before the incident occurred, according to a person familiar with the matter. The man survived the fall from Amazon's 12-story Apollo building at about 8:45 a.m. local time Monday and was taken to a Seattle hospital, police said.

    The man had recently put in a request to transfer to a different department, but was placed on an employee improvement plan, a step that can lead to termination if performance isn't improved, said the person, who asked not to be identified discussing company personnel matters. More than 20,000 people work in multiple buildings at Amazon's headquarters.

    1. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

      It says the building has 12 floors, but which floor did he jump from?

    2. Brett L   9 years ago

      I can't imagine how this guy ended up on an EIP. He seems so stable.

    3. TheZeitgeist   9 years ago

      "Alexa, how high does one need to jump from typically in order to..."

      1. Ska   9 years ago

        Nice. I just ask her to play obscure tracks when I'm at my brother's house, and then get treated to random suggestions that have nothing in common with the song requests.

  35. The Late P Brooks   9 years ago

    [Trudeau] expressed his sorrow at the death of "Cuba's longest serving president."

    Fucking dictatorship- how does it work?

    1. Brett L   9 years ago

      Well, I think Trudeau like pretty much every executive officer of a nation would prefer "one man, one vote, one time".

    2. Citizen X   9 years ago

      The Cuban people loved him so much, they didn't even try to have elections!

    3. Red Rocks Dickin Bimbos   9 years ago

      Remember, the same people who clutch their pearls about Putin think it's just awesome that Castro was in charge of Cuba for so long.

  36. Suthenboy   9 years ago

    "Donald Trump: "Nobody should be allowed to burn the American flag - if they do, there must be consequences - perhaps loss of citizenship or year in jail!"

    Pandering. None of that shit would fly.

    Y'know Don, explaining to everyone how flag burning is pure political speech with a wall around it named the 1A would be more of a service to your country.

    1. Suthenboy   9 years ago

      Burning the First Amendment is a hell of a lot worse than burning the flag.

  37. Rich   9 years ago

    James Deen, porn actor accused of rape, nominated for 20 industry awards

    Including the Medal of Freedom, right? RIGHT?!

    1. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

      Speaking of - has any evidence been presented or any charges filed on those accusations?

      1. Juvenile Bluster   9 years ago

        They have hearsay and conjecture. Those are kinds of evidence...

  38. Lee Genes   9 years ago

    A little late for Thanksgiving but still derptastic.

    White people, obsessing over your own discomfort and displeasure this holiday season ignores the most vulnerable victims of this election. I'm tired of hearing you complain about your problematic families and whether or not you're going home this year. If you are not personally threatened by Trump's administration or if?as Mahroh writes?you do not have to worry about having a safety plan right now, step up this Thanksgiving?and don't try to snag cookies for doing it. Engage with your racist grandmas and cousins. Ditch the performative allyship. Do the work people of color can't and shouldn't have to do. And please, stop talking about how terrible this Thanksgiving is for you as a white person because we POC don't want to hear it.

    1. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

      Why is it Feminists always push for the course of action that leaves people friendless and alone?

      Oh, right, without the false feeling of victimhood, there are no Feminists anymore.

    2. DOOMco   9 years ago

      cant? they just cant?

  39. Lee Genes   9 years ago

    Word of the Day: Wokeness

    "Wokeness Log, November 2016. I've been victorious in my battle with the Angry Black Woman stereotype, and I can report that it no longer affects me. When I rage, I RAGE ? no hesitation."

    1. Chipwooder   9 years ago

      I so enjoy gibberish

    2. SugarFree   9 years ago

      So... she conquered the stereotype by becoming the stereotype?

      1. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

        Much like the noble amoeba, she absorbed her adversary.

      2. Lee Genes   9 years ago

        She's woke now.

        1. SugarFree   9 years ago

          I am so sick of your apostrophe privilege.

          1. Lee Genes   9 years ago

            *scribbles new type of privilege in wokeness log*

          2. Juice   9 years ago

            She woke now. Get it straight.

    3. Eternal Blue Sky   9 years ago

      Hey don't mock that!! Her Rage gives her a +2 to Strength and Constitution as well as bonus hit points and a bonus to Will Saves for 3 + Her Constitution Modifier rounds!!

  40. The Late P Brooks   9 years ago

    And please, stop talking about how terrible this Thanksgiving is for you as a white person because we POC don't want to hear it.

    POC= Pathetically Obsessed Children?

  41. Lee Genes   9 years ago

    DU gets intellectual

    1. Lord Humungus   9 years ago

      not clickling

      1. Idle Hands   9 years ago

        It's actually one of the better links submitted today.

    2. Suthenboy   9 years ago

      They are impossible to parody.

  42. Suthenboy   9 years ago

    I posted this yesterday but given all the STEVE SMITH jokes today I will repost.

    It is worth a click

    kami.com.ph/53288-guy-caught- bigfoot-masturbating-almost-got-raped.html

    Too lazy to write the html. Take out the spaces.

  43. Lee Genes   9 years ago

    Make what you will of this. I find it disgusting.

    I've been talking with my brother, who's a Democrat in a deep red state, about our common disaster. One of the topics has been the working class. He sent me this piece on fundamentalism in rural America. Read the whole thing, but the gist of it is that fundamentalist, white America cannot be swayed by reason, by populism or by anything else. I accept that thesis: the White Fundamentalist Working Class (WFWC) is, for the most part, lost to the Democratic party. Nothing we can say to this group will register because the constant diet of bullshit from Fox and the pulpit of their local church drowns out reason about a social safety net and real opportunity. When ~80% of evangelicals vote for Trump, it's clear that these sheep will vote for Satan if he said he'd punish sluts while quoting a couple of bible verses.

    That said, I think we need to separate the White Working Class (WWC) from the WFWC. Obama was elected with a significant number of WWC votes. House districts, and some Senate seats, will swing only if we can swing some of the WWC back to the Democratic column.

    1. SugarFree   9 years ago

      Needs moar acronyms.

      1. Lord Humungus   9 years ago

        NMA

        1. SugarFree   9 years ago

          CSB

      2. Rufus The Monocled   9 years ago

        Wtf.

      3. MikeT1986   9 years ago

        Join us in the military industrial complex. I have had entire discussions in acronyms.

        1. Darth Squirrel   9 years ago

          ikr

    2. Suthenboy   9 years ago

      So, the people that were constantly demonized and called irredeemable by the pinko candidate did not vote for her? The best way to remedy this is to double down.

  44. Lord Humungus   9 years ago

    Thriving on raw eggs, world's oldest person marks 117th birthday in Italy

    Morano lives alone and has outlived all her eight brothers and sisters, including one who died at 102. She has thrived despite an unorthodox, unbalanced diet.

    "When I first knew her she used to eat three eggs a day. Two raw, and one fried. Today she has slowed down a bit, reducing the number to two some days because she says three can be too much," her doctor Carlo Bava told Reuters TV.

    "She has never eaten much fruit or vegetables. Her characteristic is that she always eats the same thing, every day, every week, every month and every year."

    take that, vegans!

    1. UnCivilServant   9 years ago

      I'd wager the 117 year old Italian woman can kick their vegan asses.

    2. MikeT1986   9 years ago

      Lot of her diet is implicitly left out. An egg is 80-100 calories give or take. 3 eggs a day does not a diet make.

      Also I like the host of implicit assumptions in "despite".

    3. Episteme   9 years ago

      When the 117-year old had at least one other centarian sibling (the 102-year old), o e needs to ask how much genetics (rather than duet) has played in their aging.

  45. Lee Genes   9 years ago

    So I finally watched the BVS: Dawn of Justice debacle.

    Whoever came up with "Our mommies have the same name? We're totes besties now." deserves to be drawn and quartered.

    1. Lord Humungus   9 years ago

      I watched that movie the other week... was not impressed. There seems to be very little humor in the DC movies versus Marvel.

      I sorta liked Man of Steel though.

      1. Lee Genes   9 years ago

        Gal Gadot made good eye candy, but that was about it.

        1. Brett L   9 years ago

          She's no Linda Carter.

      2. Eternal Blue Sky   9 years ago

        DC just seems to me like they're trying to hard to be gritty and edgy whereas Marvel seems like they're not adverse to actually having fun.

        1. Brett L   9 years ago

          Right. Civil War was dark, but it still had the Iron Man/Spiderman byplay.

          1. bacon-magic   9 years ago

            Young Spidey was one of my favorite characters/part of the movie.

    2. Idle Hands   9 years ago

      I don't know what the worse part was that or them just discarding the only weapon that can kill superman into a puddle where anyone could find it or Louise Lane could attempt to drown in. The only redeemable parts of that movie involved wonder women's hawt body and that Ben Afflecks standalone batman movie might be good.

      1. cavalier973   9 years ago

        I hated that they changed Lois's name to "Louise".

    3. Mr Drew   9 years ago

      Amen. That was just weak and strange.

      1. I can't even   9 years ago

        It went from Barman being a raging dick for most of the movie, to a good buddy just because their mommies had the same name. It took me a while to realize the turn (which we all knew was coming) had even occurred over something so trivial.

        Glad I waited till it was on HBO to watch.

    4. Episteme   9 years ago

      So, guessing that YOUR mom isn't named Martha?

  46. The Late P Brooks   9 years ago

    It's snowing.

    1. Lee Genes   9 years ago

      these euphemisms....

    2. Suthenboy   9 years ago

      Yesterday I finally picked all of the lemons off of my lemon trees and squeezed them.

      *looks out window*

      It's not snowing.

      1. Lord Humungus   9 years ago

        these euphemisms...

        1. Mickey Rat   9 years ago

          Zeppelin had that one covered a long time ago.

    3. Derp-o-Matic 5000   9 years ago

      Winter is coming

    4. DOOMco   9 years ago

      boulder did not, but just up the hill did!

  47. Juice   9 years ago

    Russia could use cyber attacks to "disrupt" next year's German elections.

    So whenever the incumbent party looks like it's about to lose power, the Russians did it. Nice.

    1. Derp-o-Matic 5000   9 years ago

      Exactly. But if Trump suggests it, then it's an existential threat to the democratic process

  48. $park? is totally a Swifty   9 years ago

    I had a bizarre dream last night that I thought I'd share. I was sitting in my living room watching Trump be sworn into office. But instead of the Chief Justice, Obama was delivering the oath. Trump closed his eyes, put his hand on the book, then started repeating after Obama. About halfway through the oath, Obama just starts making weird noises and at one point sings some lyrics. The whole time Trump is just keeping his eyes closed and repeating everything.

    What does it mean?

    1. Lee Genes   9 years ago

      It means that you shouldn't eat carne asada just before bed.

    2. commodious got a stew going   9 years ago

      It means there's going to be four more years of winter.

    3. Derp-o-Matic 5000   9 years ago

      Pretty sure it's a sign of repressed homosexuality

      1. Lord Humungus   9 years ago

        Isn't everything a sign of repressed homosexuality? Or is it incest?

        *confused*

        1. BenG   9 years ago

          That's what I keep telling people, and it keeps working to get me laid.

  49. Derp-o-Matic 5000   9 years ago

    Donald Trump: "Nobody should be allowed to burn the American flag - if they do, there must be consequences - perhaps loss of citizenship or year in jail!"

    I keep expecting Trump-fatigue to set in, but we really are going to spend the next four years shitting our pants over every single thing he says, aren't we?

    1. Suthenboy   9 years ago

      Pants dont shit themselves. We need Trump.

    2. EDG reppin LBC   9 years ago

      I dunno, depends?

      1. MikeT1986   9 years ago

        *Narrows gays*

  50. Not a Libertarian   9 years ago

    And Justin Trudeau is apparently not the most besotted Castro-fan in his family:

    https://goo.gl/wQ4F7W The Star.ca

    The PM's brother Alexandre Trudeau wrote in this newspaper a decade ago that Castro was "something of a superman," whose "intellect is one of the most broad and complete that can be found." Alexandre Trudeau wrote that he "grew up knowing that Fidel Castro had a special place among my family's friends," even if ordinary Cubans "do occasionally complain, often as an adolescent might complain about a too strict and demanding father."

    1. Free Society   9 years ago

      For all the talk Canadians give us Americans about why we should be ashamed of our country, those people never really show their shame for Trudeau. I'm embarrassed for Canada every time I see Zoolander open his mouth.

    2. Lee Genes   9 years ago

      Wow, what an asshole.

  51. The Late P Brooks   9 years ago

    " even if ordinary Cubans "do occasionally complain, often as an adolescent might complain about a too strict and demanding father."

    Ai, Poppi! Spank me harder!

    1. bacon-magic   9 years ago

      +1 J-Lo

    2. The Fusionist   9 years ago

      An adolescent complaining about how Dad throws him in prison, tortures him, etc.

  52. Brett L   9 years ago

    Coolest thing about working for a company with "unlimited" PTO?
    Company: "Hey, none of your customers will be working the week between Christmas and New Years."
    Me: "How about I just take that week off?"
    Company: "Ok."

    Now I don't have to sit around and do fuckall that week so I don't lose my family vacation time.

    1. cavalier973   9 years ago

      ....
      .....
      ....
      Your company has its own Parent Teacher organization?

      1. Brett L   9 years ago

        Private Terminator Organocyborg

    2. Episteme   9 years ago

      I miss my recent employment (my boss suddenly died this summer, forcing us to close up) where I would likewise call dibs on "working from home" those days (a.k.a. perhaps check my email once or twice a day) because the authors our publishing-services firm used were away that week.

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