Tufts University Student Government: Free Speech Resolution 'Harmful,' 'Unsafe'
According to one student senator, the organization didn't want to give the wrongful impression that free speech is, like, the greatest.


Tufts University's student government voted down a resolution (26-0) asking administrators to clarify whether the institution's commitment to free speech is in conflict with its policies forbidding sex jokes.
According to one student senator, the organization didn't want to give the wrongful impression that free speech is, like, the greatest.
"50 percent of students on this campus are not from America, and there are other countries with free speech issues, and some countries handle them better than America," said one member of the Tufts Student Senate, according to The College Fix. "I think saying First Amendment rights, best kind of rights, is not okay."
Not okay, and actively harmful, another student contended.
"I think clarity in itself is subjective so I don't really know what we're voting on, which is why I oppose this resolution," said another student leader. "I just don't think [the resolution] protects students in the way that it should. I think that actually really harms students."
In fact, merely proposing such a resolution—which was only intended to protect students' free expression rights—made people feel unsafe.
"We instantly heard that people were feeling unsafe on campus," said yet another student leader. "Survivors of assault were feeling unsafe, students of color, queer and trans students, disabled students, students from all different marginalized identities, were feeling unsafe on this campus."
Let's take a look at this resolution. There's nothing in it about hurting, threatening, or harassing marginalized persons. It's just a short statement asking administrators to define their terms. The university prohibits "inappropriate language, hurtful words, sexual jokes, innuendos," and a whole host of other activities, under certain ill-defined conditions. There's an obvious confict between a stated commitment to free expression and a prohibition on inappropriate language. Left unresolved, this conflict almost certainly chills free expression.
Student Jake Goldberg, who authored the resolution, told The College Fix he was frustrated but would continue advocating free speech at Tufts.
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"would continue advocating free speech at Tufts."
Talk about rolling the boulder uphill...
To those wishing the administration to clarify their terms I say, "Tufts shit."
BOOOO
Give 'em hell, Quimby!
Vote Quimby!
I say, "suck it up pussies".
"We instantly heard that people were feeling unsafe on campus," said yet another student leader. "Survivors of assault were feeling unsafe, students of color, queer and trans students, disabled students, students from all different marginalized identities, were feeling unsafe on this campus."
After reading quite a bit of Robby's stuff, I'm now pretty sure I could replace most college students' reactions to nearly anything with a short PERL script.
That would be a cruel thing to make PERL do.....
But it could be done with an impressively tiny, completely unreadable script! That's almost begging to be done.
Some inspiration
#!/usr/local/bin/perl
print "Unsafe!\n";
This is readable and, thus, in the tradition of PERL, demands a rewrite.
And the PERL script would probably be more likely to pass The Turing Test.
Complaints grow over whites turning Dakota Access protest into hippie festival
http://www.washingtontimes.com.....ss-protest
Absolutely hilarious.
"Need to get something off my chest that I witnessed and found very disturbing in my brief time there that I believe many others have started to speak up about as well. White people colonizing the camps," said Alicia Smith on Facebook.
"They are coming in, taking food, clothing etc and occupying space without any desire to participate in camp maintenance and without respect of tribal protocols," she said. "These people are treating it like it is Burning Man or The Rainbow Gathering and I even witnessed several wandering in and out of camps comparing it to those festivals."
Her Nov. 14 post, now making the rounds on social media, said outsiders are "literally subsisting entirely off the generosity of native people (AND YOUR DONATIONS if you have been donating) who are fighting to protect their water just because they can."
A local deputy who asked to remain anonymous told WDAY-AM's Rob Port that most of the protesters are white, and that some have used racial slurs against black, Hispanic and Native American officers.
You missed the best part!
That's the joy of being a progressive. Consequences? Somebody else's problem!
Heh, David Archambault II.... wow wouldn't peg that for a native american's name at all.....
He may not be 100% Native American, but I'm guessing he's 100% douchebag.
Here he is.
Looks like he's got some Indian in him.
What's with picking on the names? Do you think all Indians are called "Big Moose Walking Feather" or something?
You have to admit that Archambault the Second sounds like an Austrian Duke's name.
I share a surname with plenty of Indians from the northern plains, and I'm whiter than Elizabeth Warren.
Wonder if he is any relation to Russ Archambault the kid who dropped a dime on Clem Haskins and the Gophers because he was kicked off the team.
Best is after that wonderful write up in the NY Times, he gets busted for drinking and fighting with an awesome mugshot
*gentle chuckle building to hearty belly laughs*
Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
I'm trying to find info on Alicia Smith but judging from her last name she is just another white girl who is oblivious. Or she is the descendant of John Smith and Pocahantas.
A GoFundMe page=
She ain't a real Ojibwe. I grew up next to the Ojibwe in White Earth (NW Minnesoda) and I know that they hate the Sioux with a passion. Call them "dog eaters".
I can't believe that any real rez Ojibwe would join up with the Sioux.
I don't think that the name is much to go on. She looks pretty American Indian in the little picture on the page GILMORE links.
White privilege!!!!
Heh, eat your own, eat your own....
I found one of the comments interesting:
Evil Libertarian:
The irony in this quote is astounding:
"They (white people) are coming in, taking food, clothing etc and occupying space without any desire to participate in camp maintenance and without respect of tribal protocols," she said.
Hmmm now she knows how us white people (and conservative Hispanics, Blacks, Asians, etc) feel, but when we say the same thing about 3rd world illegal immigration (who do the exact same as above) we are called xenophobes and racists. Leftists are the world's dumbest, stupidest, most ignorant, mouth breathers ever conceived.
Don't necessarily agree fully but he does make a point.
Well, that last sentence was dead on accurate.
It would be nice if he didn't presume to speak for all white people and conservative non-whites.
Someone of European descent advocating restrictive immigration policy to a native American is pretty ironic too.
I even witnessed several wandering in and out of camps comparing it to those festivals
"Social justice" "activism" is a form of entertainment for well-to-do white kids? Well, I never....
I always figure that's what all of these "protest" things are.
pussies
God help us all when these kids graduate college and start taking their duly appointed positions in HR departments everywhere.
One of the many reasons that big old companies will always collapse in on their weight and competition from start-ups.
until they get bailed out by the government!
Sovereign debt... making fantasies appear to be viable realities for almost a century!
At least one of those exclamation points was superfluous. Probably both.
Exclamation! Points! Are! Never! Superfluous!....!
"I think clarity in itself is subjective so I don't really know what we're voting on, which is why I oppose this resolution," said another student leader.
Well, that makes sense.
Does it? I'm not even sure what they're trying to say.
The sentence is impossible to diagram without mapping it on a Klein bottle. It contains universes. It is not only sufficient unto itself, but completely without reference to any larger reality. It does not allow for even the possibility of outside observation. It is beautiful.
Outside observation of the Proggy Particle causes it to immediately retreat to a safe space which exists outside of normal space. Reality falls into the safety well, never to escape, though some amount that isn't directed at penetrating the bubble may orbit it. The protected proggy inside is incredibly dense.
Outside observation of the Proggy Particle causes it to immediately retreat to a safe space which exists outside of normal space.
AKA "n-dimensional Derp-Sitter space."
He is saying that truth is subjective, that it is malleable and can be molded at will. it is the heart of progressive thought.
I bet that this exact "student leader" could be encouraged to sign the "Ban Dihydrogen Monoxide" petition.
Or ban the Bill of Rights, I bet all 26 would sign.
"'Bill?' Sounds like a cis-het patriarch kinda guy, and that's Not Okay."
How did Tufts get so many candy-asses enrolled there? Do they advertise for cowards and the mentally/emotionally handicapped, or something?
It is in Boston (Medford really). That says it all.
Well, if you ignore the other half of Boston that would beat the shit out of you if you said that to them.
Southie and the North End aren't what they used to be. They went and gentrified the mecca of urban white-trash.
This article concerns 26 people who gravitate toward student government, so it's not clear how widespread this phenomenon is.
"Yeah, i peaked when i was 22. It's all been downhill since. No, the male pattern baldness started when i was 13."
Yep. My memory from undergrad was that student government was almost universally ignored by everybody not involved in it. If the rest of us thought at all about it was with frustration that we couldn't abolish it and get back the student fees they charged us to fund it.
The people in student government took that shit super cereal though.
I vaguely remember some sort of student government coup when I was in school. I was writing opinion pieces for the paper at the time so I attended a meeting. I remember Roberts Rules of Order and nothing of consequence.
50 percent of students on this campus are not from America, and there are other countries with free speech issues, and some countries handle them better than America
Sigh. Honestly, I do wonder how many of these special little snowflakes have been shitting their pants for the last two weeks about the fact that someone they consider an out-and-out fascist has won the presidency. And yet they're still spouting the "free speech is overrated" line. I guess it really is true. You really just can't fix stupid.
Half the student population at Tufts are from outside the US? Doesn't that seem a bit high?
Lefties never just make stuff like numbers or other facts out of thin air, so it must be accurate.
According to their Accepted Sudent profile 145 of 2,890 admitted students for the class of 2020 are foreign citizens. But, hey 5%, 50%, they're Liberal Arts, not STEM people.
http://admissions.tufts.edu/ap.....t-profile/
My favorite admissions factoid was that in 2015, North Dakota State U had one freshman from Hawaii.
I often wondered how that poor fucker left paradise on earth and ended up suffering through a winter of hell at the bottom of Lake Agassiz
These kids will be so confused when they finally see what life is like.
People wonder why the Cultural Revolution happened in China, and watching these college students, you can see why it happened.
If they could, these sorts would burn books which contradicted their views on society and their ideals. Along with prosecuting those who they see as disrupting their quest for a Progressive utopia. That's why it's important for us to continually fighting these people because the moment they grab on to power is the moment we all lose.
They so desperately want to radicalize. They are begging for the right leader to come and turn them into killers. I am starting to think that it won't happen, but if it doesn't, it won't be because they don't want it to.
I think the difference between the youth in China during the 1960's and our youth now, is that in China, the students didn't have a problem with committing the violence themselves. Here in our time, the youth have been conditioned that the government should commit acts of violence on their behalf but they themselves wouldn't have the guts to touch anyone. Which in a disturbing way is somewhat a major benefit.
As long of course, we have the Second Amendment.
In the following sequence of events, order is extremely important:
1. Confiscate privately held firearms
2. Cultural Revolution
They, in some nascent way, recognize that the other side is well armed. Agitation for violence is less effective when you think the other guy's got a shot at winning the fight. Their solution, of course, is to disarm those they'd like to oppress.
I don't know. The transition from Social Justice Warrior to actual warriors seems pretty far fetched. It would require all sorts of unpleasantness - missed trips to Starbies, bad food, exercise even in bad weather, not to mention touching yucky guns.
Easier just to bitch.
^This^
Spoiled pampered trust fund snow flakes don't have the temperament to become real warriors. You know who does? The "rednecks" "cis-hetero male 'gun nuts'" and assorted other "deplorables" that they hate.
Almost un-noticed during the run-up to the election was the Clinton campaign's promise to 'crush news organizations that have no right to exist'. I was astounded that it was barely noticed. I am betting the list of 'fake news' organizations is the list of people she intended to crush. There it is, right there: naked tyranny.
I have yet to find an accusation leveled against Trump which not only applied to Clinton as well, but usually moreso.
"Trump is going to silence his opponents!" -- Meanwhile, Clinton says she's going to push for repeal of a case that was specifically about criticizing her, personally (although it obviously had a broader conclusion)
"Trump is going to bomb the Middle East!" -- Meanwhile, Clinton is pushing for a greater commitment in Syria which is not only in the Middle East but also is entangled with a Eurasian nuclear power
"Trump won't respect the outcome if he loses!" -- Meanwhile, ...
"I think clarity in itself is subjective so I don't really know what we're voting on, which is why I oppose this resolution"
Haahahahahahahah
That's good parody.
the resolution asks for ambiguous policies to be rewritten for clarity specifically with regard to protections under 1A. and it was voted down 26-0.
schools my kids may consider attending on my dime:
Tufts
Build that list and you'll probably eliminate every school except for Absorbine Jr College.
Come to Arizona. We are friendly folk.
The Death March to Idiocracy continues.
This isn't surprising. Progs never want their ridiculous rules to be clear and well-defined. They prefer that the rules be vague and subjective; they want those goalposts permanently mounted on well-greased wheels.
Hey Jake, I hope you continue to Tuft it out as best you can.
Paging Swiss?
*narrows gaze*
STEVE SMITH TELLS JOKE: WHY DID MY PENIS CROSS THE ROAD?
BECAUSE IT WAS STUCK IN CHICKEN!
http://www.washingtontimes.com.....s-protest/
More proof that hippies ruin everything. You are out in the Dakotas trying to protest the white man and a bunch of pale faces show up and turn it into Burning Man.
Leftists know that everyone loves them, except for white males of course. But everyone else loves them, in their own minds.
Live by the Call-Out, Die by the Call-Out
Student Jake Goldberg, who authored the resolution, told The College Fix he was frustrated but would continue advocating free speech at Tufts.
Keeping tilting at that windmill. Meanwhile, a second term awaits President Trump.
Yes, other countries are much better at dealing with free speech by use of the death penalty, floggings, and imprisonment. Perhaps this is what these assholes want, except that their little snowflake identity groups would also be subject to these punishments in such places.
Send all of them to North Korea or Saudi Arabia. Let them take their pick. There, they will be protected from any opposing viewpoints or else disappear, get flogged, or sent to the camps. They'll be in one giant safe space!
Their reaction to Hillary's loss was not unlike that of N. Koreans to the death of Kim Jong-Il.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-16250499
Yeah, but at least the North Koreans were only doing that out of fear of being sent to the camps. Whereas the American snowflakes, they're really that stupid.
Some of the North Koreans may actually be that brainwashed.
Some of the Norks really are that stupid. Some of the high ranking party officials/ bureaucrats were probably just scared that their meal ticket might be up now that his fat retarded son was in charge.
Wow, I really hope this den of leftist idiocy has plenty of coloring books and soap bubbles for these overgrown infants. Can't have free speech, someone might tell them that Donald Trump is president! Or worse, that Castro is dead!
How are they going to survive in the real world?
They'll have to remain in academia their entire lives or work for some lefty organization. I fail to see how it's possible for American Universities to survive for much longer if they don't put an end to this bullshit. You cannot have the inmates running the asylum, it doesn't work that way.
I think you are right. It is just a matter of time before employers turn elsewhere. And if going there doesn't get you a job, why go?
Already there. Not a STEM or business major? Good luck making lattes.
To feel like you are the most important person in the universe! Many of these kids will probably end up in Brooklyn or LA and work as social/eco/gender justice bloggers supported by mommy and daddy until they're 30 when they'll get married or be forced to go back to school for a degree that will pay the bills.
Someone really should alert them to the fact that this type of thing will ultimately destroy the prestige of the American university system, and all that foreign-student tuition money will go elsewhere. They'll listen to that.
That might have an effect on the administrators behind all this bullshit. But, not the student fodder. Of course, the administrators believe it will all be made up by Uncle Sam's teet. One thing I do hope President Trump does is cut off the gravy train.
There's nothing in it about hurting, threatening, or harassing marginalized persons.
It shuts the door on shutting the door on unfavored speech. Duh.
Seems like the university has reverted back to its monastic roots-everyone wear robes and observe a vows of chastity and silence.
By all means, cosmos, find common ground with the Left. You'll just have to sell-out on speech, now, too. But, on the upside, there are cocktail parties. Which is nice
Truly the Snow Flake Generation: Fuck 'em all....
Truly the Snow Flake Generation: Fuck 'em all....
Nobody else said it so I will:
Fuck your feelings.
50 percent of students on this campus are not from America, and there are other countries with free speech issues, and some countries handle them better than America
And I say to them, with no ill will or malice, that if they have a problem with our free speech protections then they are free to go back to their home countries. And this student is welcome to join them. This is not a call to "love it or leave it". This is simply how we do things here, and if that is a problem for someone, then perhaps it would be better for everyone if they found someplace more to their liking.
I hear that in Venezuela, lots of space is being freed up for new residents.
"If you don't like it, you can git out!"
When did 'right and wrong' become supplanted with "okay/not-okay"?
I know we joke about robby's frequent use, but i didn't realize that it was so ubiquitous
The problems with the whole "Okay/Not-Okay" thing (imo) is that it normalizes irrationality.
It isn't asserting any principle; its saying, "all things considered, in context, because of feelings and stuff...."... here is the consensus opinion.
And that consensus isn't based on any reasoning; its based on social-acceptance/popularity. Basically, "The first amendment is not in vogue; ergo, don't be like lecturing people about this " ut the constitution" stuff when we tell you to shut up"
"When did 'right and wrong' become supplanted with "okay/not-okay?"
When you're a retarded snowflake.
I'm more surprised that he used the word "I think", rather than "I feel", in that sentence.
RE: Tufts University Student Government: Free Speech Resolution 'Harmful,' 'Unsafe'
According to one student senator, the organization didn't want to give the wrongful impression that free speech is, like, the greatest.
1. After reading this article, the university should be re-named to Tough Shit University.
2. Yes, free speech is dangerous. But only to tyrants and their cronies.
3. I guess Tufts University doesn't teach US Government 101.
4. The student senator who is against free speech has a great future ahead of him as a democrat or a republican.
this one is strong in the ways of post-structuralism
I think Hume said something about us being stuck with skepticism, logically, but only a fool would ignore the pain of reality. I think that's about where western thought is, right now--ignoring the pain.
that's certainly one way of looking at it.
I think the reason leftists/academics love them the 1960s post-structuralist sort of thinking... is that it basically provides a bottomless pit/endless-loop of recycling material.
There's no longer any real contest of ideas; there's just the "problematizing" process. Which is why they're constantly sucking in pop-culture and turning it into subject for further ideological-deconstruction. I imagine there's a few dozen PhD candidates who did their doctoral thesis on something to do with "Hip Hop"
If you've never read "The Closing of the American Mind", its worth a once-over. There's certainly a lot in its that's technically 'wrong', but his general critique was about the intellectual-direction of modern college-campuses... and he predicted where everything was going back in the 1980s. Everyone thought he was a reactionary old coot... and in ways he was.... but he was certainly right about the fact that cultural-relativism was a cancer destroying the American intellectual world.
I think cause-and-effect is a little muddled. Once they took control of government and administration, it didn't much matter how they justified their continued existence. Those paychecks aren't going to stop coming, as long as they don't become too "reactionary".
I think saying First Amendment rights, best kind of rights, is not okay.
Fully agree, snowflake. I'm a big fan of Second Amendment rights. Now shut the fuck up and get back to class.
"50 percent of students on this campus are not from America, and there are other countries with free speech issues, and some countries handle them better than America," said one member of the Tufts Student Senate, according to The College Fix. "I think saying First Amendment rights, best kind of rights, is not okay."
Do they teach English at Tufts?
Hey, I went to Tufts! That was my safety school! So don't talk to me about hardship!
Or they can go an work for the government.
What are "NGOs", chopped liver?
Between government itself, government-funded "non-profits", government-funded academia, there are plenty of jobs for precious snowflakes. Just as long as the tax base doesn't dry up...
Government bureaucracies, non-profit organizations, HR departments (shudder), and for quite a few: a lifelong career as baristas at Starbucks.