Why Minorities Will Save American Constitutional Traditions in the Age of Trump
Don't count on resistance from the white establishment
The American right has long been telling itself a simple morality tale that goes something like this: The white Christian establishment is the original source and

continuing guardian of America's tradition of liberty, free markets and limited government and minorities are a threat to it because they don't share the same attachments. One of the major arguments that restrictionist right-wing pundits make for clamping down on immigration is that immigrants, hailing from Big Government countries, dilute these American principles.
This has always been nonsense. But Donald Trump's election has turned this story on its head given that whites are the ones who voted for him because they wanted economic nationalism and protectionism. And minorities voted against him because they feared the loss of their liberties.
Indeed, if America's constitutional freedoms have a future, it is no longer with Trump's overwhelmingly white backers, but with his minority opponents, simply because they need them more.
Trump is a natural authoritarian who ran on a platform that blended populist economic policies with an aggressive law-and-order state. So he has promised to shut down trade and immigration to protect the American working class and use the strong arm of the government to bend businesses to his will – forcing them to stay in the country and hire workers at wages he mandates. (Hence his flirtation late in the campaign with a $15 minimum wage, even though it departs from his party's orthodoxy.)
And economic liberties are not all that he'll trample.
Ejecting millions of undocumented aliens, his signature campaign initiative, will require a vast expansion of the police state to hunt down and detain illegals. But that's far from the worst of it. He ran as a law-and-order candidate who wants to end the "war on cops." So he isn't likely to have much appetite for reining in police abuse, especially if Rudy Giuliani is his attorney general. In fact, he speaks of African-American communities with casual disdain and has explicitly promised to expand racial profiling and stop-and-frisk policies where police can stop people on the street they suspect of carrying contraband or drugs without a court order. He vowed to ban Muslims from the U.S. And on and on and on. And then there is his threat to loosen libel laws to go after the press and use anti-trust laws to chasten media conglomerates that challenged him.
All of this will need to be forcefully resisted. But where will this resistance come from? Not whites. His promise to protect their economic interests has proven to be sufficient for them to overlook his anti-constitutional proposals.
Indeed, exit polls show that 58 percent of white voters went for Trump. A majority of white men (63 percent) backed him. But so did a majority of white women (53 percent). They weren't just non-college educated, low-information voters. As expected, 67 percent of that group voted for Trump — but so did 54 percent of college-educated white men. Among white women, about 62 percent of the non-college educated went for Trump and — shockingly — also 45 percent of college educated.
Now, obviously, not all the white folks who voted for Trump necessarily approve of his character or tactics or agenda – or because they are all active racists. But they simply don't think that his executive excesses pose a huge danger to their interests — or else they wouldn't have pulled the lever for him.
With minorities, it's the exact reverse: It is not that all of them disapprove of all his economic ideas. But he poses a direct threat to their rights and liberties, which is why they pulled the lever against him.
The Latino firewall that was supposed to stop Trump on Election Day failed. Latinos did not come out in high enough numbers. About 29 percent actually voted for Trump, defying expectations and besting Mitt Romney by 5 percentage points. However, in literally every swing state except Florida, according to exit polls by Latino Decisions, Trump got less than 17 percent of the Latino vote. It was in reliably red states that Trump ran up his numbers with Latinos.
Among blacks, Trump got less than 8 percent of the vote. Meanwhile, two-thirds of Asian Americans, who have historically voted for Democrats at rates that rival those of blacks, said they were "scared" of Trump being in the Oval Office.
The fear and trembling that Trump is striking among minorities, about 40 percent of the population, could be a potent force to protect America's limited government traditions and the Constitution that Trump threatens. Minorities have every reason to heighten their vigilance because they need the constitution's protections. This is one reason why so many of them are out on the streets protesting Trump's election. These protests will escalate if the Trump presidency unfolds as expected – as will lawsuits against his administration by civil libertarian outfits. In fact, we may be entering a new era of minority activism.
This is, in a way, in keeping with the constitutional design. The whole purpose of the constitution is to protect the most vulnerable groups from tyranny. The only foolishness is the right-wing fairytale that the abstract commitments of the white majority alone today could be a reliable custodian of America's freedoms.
A version of this column ran in The Week
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Didn't Reason run this exact same stupid article with the exact same stupid picture just two weeks ago?
They linked to it on the 11th. Now you get in full surround sound.
add an 'it' to the mix.
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No, last time the alt-text was "Trump Clown" not "Trump Joker". And there was an article in-between, with a "Trump Hands" picture, instead.
It's still stupid.
Identity politics have given organized minorities power. To suggest that the organizations would move away from the one thing that has given them influence is laughable.
If Shikha expects the NAACP, the SPLC, BLM, CAIR, etc... to start shouting the primacy of the individual from the rooftops, she's out of her mind.
That said, if the members of those organizations would move towards a recognition of individual rights, it would be a welcome change. But the organizations themselves will never do so.
Sorry, but Shikha does not expect them nor want them to shout the primacy of the individual.
She doesn't believe in the primacy of the individual herself. She is clouded by foggy identification of humanity as clusters, injustices as collective, of freedom as amorphous blobs of statistical contortions. The generalizations in this nearly-incoherent essay are a demonstration of the problem, and an affront to level headed understanding of the singular-times-6-billion human condition.
A pity what's happened to this publication.
A poetic yet lucid characterization. Nice comment.
Agreed! Bravo, bravo.
she's out of her mind.
She never had much of a mind to be out of. Where did they find this woman?
Cocktail party?
she the infiltraiter found them?
She remind of two man hating dykes that's used to write for WSU's newspaper when I attended undergrad school there. They wrote shit calling every frat member a defacto rapist and how men should actually be neutered. One was for Israel. She reminds me of Dalmia. The other one was 200 lbs. and very mannish.
I knew the huskies one as she lived in the same res. hall where a longtime friend of me was an assistant RA. They were kind of friends. One day I needed up at lunch with my friend, a few other people, and the huskier lesbo. I had to listen to her monologue about how persecuted she was. I interrupted and suggested if she didn't write antagonistic shit about every mens related group on campus, or just men in general, that she might be treated better. The look of disbelief on her face was priceless. She kept attempting to make arguments about discrimination. I pointed out some people are just dicks for no reason at all, but being a vicious bitch wasn't helping her case.
She first Malloy figured out I was actually trying to help and not being a jerk, but ultimately she was in massive denial. She clung to her victimhood and identity politics the way us deplorable cling to our guns and our bibles.
I'm not sure she does. I think she's too busy celebrating white demographic decline to let things like historical examples and statistical fact get in the way of the story she wants to tell, about how non-whites will save the country from the mismanagement of the white menace in flyover country.
Oh, no wonder I recognize the same list of bullshit lies.
She's going to drive this well-crafted Photoshop right into the ground. You might as well count on this picture accompanying every Shikha article every week for the next four, possibly eight, years. Because if she was writing almost nothing but Trump before the election, it's wall-to-wall orange going forward.
Please do include this photo on all her articles, makes them easy to identify.
When I first saw the photo and "Reason Staff" I figured it had to be SD.
It wasn't funny when they did the Obama/Joker thing and it's not funny now.
Which is it: Trump is Literal Hitler who will impose iron-fisted authoritarianism on the land, or Trump is the Loki the trickster god who will deliberately sow seeds of discord to "watch the world burn?" The two characterizations are not the same except to simpletons.
Slapping a Joker face on one's personal most-hated-politician reveals not only political immaturity, but a lack of the basic cognitive abilities needed to understand Batman? comic books.
Sad!
After all, it was Lex Luthor who was the self-made billionaire who ran for and became president.
I guess they wouldn't get the same 2nd-grader-with-a-coloring-book therapy out of trying to make Trump look like Lex Luthor. Coloring is fun.
Maybe they could try a Play-Dough claymation Trump/Luthor mash-up. That would surely get their point across in a manner befitting the educated urban elites who were too smart to succumb to Trumpkinism.
Correct.
No SD just uses the same arguments and drivel in all her articles.
Shikha must loathe working for Reason; I bet everyday she sends a new resume over to HuffPo, Salon and Vox.
I mean she has to do all this work recreating the same article over and again with minor differences and for what? To have it critiqued by the people she most hates in life? That must be awful, to be surrounded by and interact with the racial group you despise.
Because let's be honest, besides HM and Injuin -- the majority of the commentariat is white men -- it's got to be just abhorrent for her.
Something tells me instant she jumps ship to Salom or whatever, she will publish a memoir about how she escaped the right wing sexist racist cult of libertarianism and it's flagship, Reason. Or maybe she'll claim she was working undercover the whole time to expose how horrible it is.
"I left the Libertarian Party using this one weird trick"
"You'll never guess what happens next."
*grabs popcorn*
The Week to Reason pipeline o' Derp.
I'm having The Week's October 28 cover image put on a t-shirt.
Is that the one with the Orange Brigade brandishing pitchforks and spittle?
Yes, amid their pathetic deranged cries that Hillary stole the election following her inevitable victory.
Yule, 2016:
"Oh, you got me a "Reason Staff" article! Let me open it and see who --"
"Dalmia."
"No, it's fine. I like it, really. It's fine. Let me just..., it's fine."
I had guessed as much from the title and the picture.
Save the planet and re-gift it to your least favorite friend.
Trump got a lower percentage of white votes and a greater percentage of Hispanic and black votes than either Romney or McCain. Go look it up. So what is this "white base"?
Moreover, black people work in factories too. Hispanics have their jobs moved overseas as well. Dalmia is an appealing racist. She really is. She apparently thinks that every black or Hispanic person either works for the government, mows lawns or is on welfare. Otherwise, how are things like protectionism and or immigration controls "handouts to a white base'?
This isn't the first time Dalmia has engaged in really offensive racial stereotyping. A few months ago she said something to the effect that Hispanics were going to "stop putting up drywall and come out and vote against Trump" as if every Hispanic is some low skill itinerant construction day laborer.
We kid about this stuff but it has gotten offensive. It really has. Perhaps because she is not from the US and apparently doesn't get out much, honestly doesn't understand that there are millions of blacks and Hispanics in this country who fit every possible description and work in every field. Whatever it is, someone needs to explain to her that she is making some pretty disgusting generalizations about minorities and whites.
Dear John,
Take Dalmia's writing deathly seriously like everyone else's. DO NOT consider the possibility that her foggy libertarian notions might effuse onto the progdience for whom she writes.
Love,
Sanity
A few months ago she said something to the effect that Hispanics were going to "stop putting up drywall and come out and vote against Trump" as if every Hispanic is some low skill itinerant construction day laborer.
Even then, hasn't Dalmia been claiming that low-to-semi-skilled labor is the core of Trump's base?
She also said immigration was good for the military because it gave them more cannon fodder.
Re: John,
Here are the demographics:
El Trumpo received half a million more votes than Romney and about 1 - 1/2 million more votes than McCain.
________Romney_________El Trumpo
Whites___ 59%____________58%
Blacks___ 8%_____________9%
Hispanics_27%___________ 29%(*)
(*) The 29% considers people of Hispanic descent regardless of race.
You should consider that two and a half million MORE people voted in 2016 than they did in 2012 (131,635,447 vs. 129,085,410) which means those percentages actually represent a higher number of voters than in the 2012 election, and that the percentage of Hispanics include people who would've been counted as "white" in 2012.
Does this mean that Shikha is right about a white base? I don't know. Maybe. I don't know.
All I know is that El Trumpo promised a wall to protect people from Mexican butt-sex and from "Takum Er Jebz!" and doggonit he's building that wall up for us white folk and the purity of our "precious bodily culture, Mandrake!"
Blah blah blah libertarians lumping people into groups when convenient blah blah blah
If Trump were actually a white nationalist running on protecting the white Race, I would think he would have gotten no non white votes. Instead he got nearly a third of Hispanics and almost 10% of blacks. Moreover, if he really were some white nationalist you would have thought blacks would have turned out to vote against him rather than returning to their historical norm for turnout.
And as far as culture goes, maybe you should stop being such a cultural racist and imperialist about your own culture and stop assuming every Hispanic is just like you and sees opening the border as some kind of racial duty. Twenty nine percent of Hispanics voted for Trump, Perhaps the cultural problem is yours not the dreaded white people you seem to hate so much.
Maybe there is more to the Hispanic population in this country than what you hear at LaRaza meetings. Just saying.
Re: John,
He isn't a white supremacist and he wasn't running as one. He was running a campaign of fear-mongering against easy targets like immigrants and international trade in order to garner the mediocrity vote, which proved to be numerous enough.
For God's sake, John. Listen to yourself. Who have been arguing in favor of "protecting our precious bodily culture, Mandrake" if not Trumpistas? I've always found the "culture protection" argument against immigration to be unconvincing, first because of the attractiveness of the American culture and because the argument is a strange admission that your culture needs "protecting". Only fragile things need protection, which means the person making the argument has no confidence in the strength of his or her culture.
I don't know what happens at La Raza meetings. I come here, because I am a libertarian, not a Marxian.
He isn't a white supremacist and he wasn't running as one. He was running a campaign of fear-mongering against easy targets like immigrants and international trade in order to garner the mediocrity vote, which proved to be numerous enough.
Yes because anyone who understands there could be a downside to international trade and immigration is just fear mongering. You are the one who is fear mongering. You can't defend your own positions. So you avoid doing so by calling anyone who points out any flaws in them a racist.
Moreover, if you admit Trump isn't a white Supremacist, then stop saying stupid shit like this
All I know is that El Trumpo promised a wall to protect people from Mexican butt-sex and from "Takum Er Jebz!" and doggonit he's building that wall up for us white folk and the purity of our "precious bodily culture, Mandrake!"
Don't make an accusation and then pretend you didn't after someone calls you on it.
I don't know what happens at La Raza meetings. I come here, because I am a libertarian, not a Marxian.
Maybe you should join because you seem to have the kind of racial attitudes that would find them agreeable.
It's such bullshit that these people act like Trump isn't distinguishing between illegal and legal immigrants. It's also irritating to hear them act like Muslims are a race, as opposed to a belief system. The idiots have not learned that words have distinct meanings.
Maybe they need remedial kindergarten.
Robby just posted a clear-headed analysis about crying wolf over Trump, and then this happens.
Sorry, it was Elizabeth.
But what difference, at this point, does it make?
It's common knowledge that Robby is just one of Elizabeth's sock puppet accounts.
I mean come on, like Robby Soave could actually be real name! It's as fake as Carlos Danger. And clearly the pic of "Robby" is just some male model from google images.
'Dalmia is an appealing racist.'
Thanks John 🙂
One of better John-o's of late
couldn't read pass the second paragraph it starts with false premises and continues form there and oh yea its all white people fault.
SD;SNR
^Correct. Most sane people just go to the comments.
With all due respect, Ms. Dalmia, this article is a mess. You provide little if any justification for antagonism between Mr. Trump and various minorities other than free-floating anxiety. And the claim that Mr. Trump's policy is now an appeal specifically to white wishes for protectionism are belied by the better minority levels of support you yourself cite.
There will undoubtedly be valid, legitimate reasons to oppose Donald Trump. Fever dreams are not in that category.
It seems delusional to think that the Democrats will be the ones that will preserve the Constitution or Constitutional Traditions.
Democrats have been destroying things in order to save them since about Andrew Jackson.
You think she sullies her eyeballs in the comment gutters to read our brilliant critiques?
She's probably sitting in some trendy DC lunch spot right this moment, pretending to be interested in something Ezra Klein is saying between mouthfuls of crab louie, at a big table next to six other aspiring hacks.
Podcast = Kremlinologists Don't Think Putin Planned on Trump Victory
*these 'war college' podcasts are hit-or-miss. mostly good. the hosts are not as good as the guests. definitely worth listening to at some point just for sanity re: Russia in particular. they basically contradict everything that the wider media seems to want to believe. the last time they had this same guy on, he basically explained that - media pants-shitting aside - Russia's military is still sort of rusty, disorganized, and barely capable of the sort of expeditionary thing they're doing in Syria at the moment. they provide a dose of 'realism', basically.
The Russian intelligence services rely on open sources for their information. Given that, I am sure they were as shocked by Trump winning as anyone else who relied on the American media for their information.
The New York Times and WaPo's paywall make life difficult so they rely solely on HuffPo, Pornhub, and Hillary Clinton's email server.
Speaking of which, I came across a Hillary + Donald porn video. I did not watch it; that's just a bridge too far for me.
Also, regarding the premise of secret messages in porn, has anyone else seen the movie 'The Nice Guys?'
Why Minorities Will Save American Constitutional Traditions in the Age of Trump
Don't count on resistance from the white establishment
These two statements do not mix the way Shikha seems to think they do. If there's a "white establishment", that suggests that whites have been maintaining the status quo since before Trump. The only reason it seems now is the time for minorities then to try and save constitutional rights is because there's a white guy in office, and "we're super serious this time about this guy being a racist".
Also, since the end of the election, I haven't seen any true statements of hate against minorities and even if there are, they don't seem to be any number than the usual. I have however seen plenty of people connecting the white race to negative things, or outright statements of disgust or hatred against whites.
In lefty identity politics for which sheeky is a standard bearer (on the no whitey side, of course) all whites are inherently flawed, oppressive, and tribal. Luckily the noble savages that are subjected to the oppression are monolith in their ideology, which of course is never flawed, oppressive or tribal, but pure and, I'll say it again for emphasis, shared by each and every individual who is thankfully not white.
Related: Trump didn't say or endorse this but people who publicly support Trump think this way.
Like the Muslim-Concentration-Camp supporter?
Or like Megyn, who shuts him up because she knows batshit-'Murica-firsters make for bad optics?
RE: Why Minorities Will Save American Constitutional Traditions in the Age of Trump
Now don't any of you out there fret none.
Trump the Grump will eliminate all vestiges of the pain-in-the-ass US Constitution, civil rights, civil rights, etc. in a short while.
Then we'll all live in a fascist state he's coveted in no time.
Ah, yes...just like the Joker? did in that movie Dark Knight?. I see the connection now.
It's too bad we didn't elect Hillary, that stalwart defender of the people, and their individual rights.
SD;DR
I saw the photo and knew this was another crap article from Dalmia.
Dalmia continues her campaign to be the worst writer to post at Reason in the last decade or more that I have been hanging around for.
I can't figure out why reason continues to employ her. What exactly does she do beyond enrage and insult the magazine's readership?
Good blow jobs?
Maybe they all spitroast her once a week?
I dreamed of a street, smoke billowing from the ruins of every government building and in the dim light I saw the lifeless bodies of jackalopes decorating every lamppost. The mythical carrion were all wearing reason T-shirts
In fact, he speaks of African-American communities with casual disdain
From the morning links:
When I am President, I will work to ensure that all of our kids are treated equally, and protected equally. Every action I take, I will ask myself: does this make life better for young Americans in Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit, Ferguson who have as much of a right to live out their dreams as any other child in America?
It is my highest and greatest hope that the Republican Party can be the home in the future and forevermore for African-Americans and the African-American vote because I will produce, and I will get others to produce, and we know for a fact it doesn't work with the Democrats and it certainly doesn't work with Hillary.
African-American citizens have sacrificed so much for this nation. They have fought and died in every war since the Revolution, and from the pews and the picket lines they have lifted up the conscience of our country in the long march for Civil Rights. Yet, too many African-Americans have been left behind.
No group in America has been more harmed by Hillary Clinton's policies than African-Americans. No group. No group. If Hillary Clinton's goal was to inflict pain on the African-American community, she could not have done a better job. It's a disgrace. Tonight, I am asking for the vote of every African-American citizen in this country who wants a better future.
I understand the whole "Trump hates Mexicans and Muslims" claims. I think they are grossly misreading what Trump actually said but with those claims there is at least some statement to misread. In the case of the claims that Trump is racist towards black, there isn't even that. Exactly what has Trump said or done that causes them to think he is racist against blacks much less "speaks of them with casual disdain". I can't think of a single thing Trump has said that could be interpreted that way. And hateful half wits like Dalmia never give any examples to illustrate it. They just say it is true.
Re: John,
I have to agree with you on that, John. There is much misrepresentation of what El Trumpo actually said.
For instance, El Trumpo didn't say that all Mexican immigrants are rapists and drug dealers. No, he established in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS that MORE THAN HALF of immigrants from Mexico are drug dealers and rapists. he established this by adding "and some, I assume, are good people", perfectly closing the universe of Mexican immigrants to include SOME who are not drug dealers and rapists and then the rest who are rapists and drug dealers. Draw a Venn diagram and you will see. Oh, and before you do, read his announcement speech where he DIDN'T say that he was talking about undocumented immigrants. He merely assumed MOST people "sent" by Mexico are bad.
And he didn't claim all Muslims are bad people. Only those that come from Muslim countries. But he did change his qualification and claimed only those Muslims that believe in Sharia should be excluded, which is like saying Catholics who believe in the Catechism should be stopped at the border, the lousy papists!
F.Y.I.
Here is what he said
When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.
That is not saying more than half of them. Moreover, who the fuck are you kidding? Take this horseshit somewhere else where you can sell it to stupid white people who have never been to Mexico and dont' know anything about it. What Trump said may have shocked American ears, but it reflects what most of Mexico actually thinks about their fellow Mexicans who come to the US. Maybe you should go home once in a while. If you ever did, you would find out that Mexicans see the US as a dumping ground for their problems and the Mexicans who come here of the lowest class. They Caucasian elite in Mexico looks down on Mexican immigrants more than you look down on poor white people.
Re: John,
Learn to read, John. The VERY MOMENT he added the determinant "SOME" and the conjunction "and" he CLOSED THE UNIVERSE of "Immigrants from Mexico" to include only drug dealers, rapists and 50% minus one who are good people, because in the ENGLISH LANGUAGE, "some" cannot mean half or more than half.
You're such an asshole, John. People see the US as a land of opportunity just like everyone else. Perhaps there are a few who see the U.S. as the eternal interventionist in Mexican affairs or the aggressor in international affairs, but if there's ONE thing professionals in Mexico want to do is migrate to the US.
Yours is the very thinking that Shikha is talking about.
Which part of "some of them are no doubt good people" do you not understand?
You're such an asshole, John. People see the US as a land of opportunity just like everyone else.
Not the ones who stay in Mexico. If they saw it that way, they would come here.
Perhaps there are a few who see the U.S. as the eternal interventionist in Mexican affairs or the aggressor in international affairs, but if there's ONE thing professionals in Mexico want to do is migrate to the US.
Maybe they do. But that doesn't mean they don't view current immigrants with any less disdain or don't see the US as a dumping ground for their problems. The US can be both a place they would want to immigrate to and also a dumping ground for the low class Indian trash they so can't stand.
It is a big country. And the professionals in Mexico wouldn't live in the same neighborhoods as the illegal immigrants should they ever come to the US.
Take your "all brown people are wonderful" bullshit somewhere else. We don't have any or many stupid white people here. The people on this board understand that people are people and bullshit generalizations good or bad are just that, bullshit.
What bullshit. Trump never said that about all immigrants from Mexico. He was talking about illegals only. You are similarly full of shit about your characterization of Trump's Islamic statements.
Jayne you would be more at home peddling that line of shit on a Slate or HuffPo?
Exactly what has Trump said or done that causes them to think he is racist against blacks much less "speaks of them with casual disdain".
I dunno, maybe it has to do with how he ran a company that discriminated against them.
Oh really? What was that?
Be careful John, what with your argue disability that Hail alluded to earlier. It's not your strong suit according to him/her/xe.
Trump's father's company allegedly discriminated against black applicants in the 1970s when approving tenancy agreements for rental properties the company owned. A settlement was reached after Trump took control of the company but no one admitted any guilt.
Yeah, that is really convincing.
So, does this mean Obama can safely be called a misogynist because there's a gender 'wage gap' among people who work on his staff?
He ran for office as Not-a-Democrat. Therefore he hates black people, qed.
off topic but I someone on msn claim that Trump was firing staffers like a Stalinist purge. The idiot is showing their overblown reaction since when Stalin purged people they were taken out back and shot. Trump has gotten no where near that point yet, but we can always hope.
Ode to Shikha the Racist:
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Wa wa wha wah?
Wahhh, wa wa wa!
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
The end.
(This makes more sense then anything she has ever written.)
Sometimes it doesn't seem like Dalmia likes Trump much at all.
And there's so much to like. Uh, like, he's not HillRod.
What else?....
(Help me out here)
Hot wife
Hotter daughter.
Daughters.
He has salted the Earth with tears of progs.
He wants to get rid of ObamaCare and Dodd-Frank.
Re: Ken Shultz,
He wants to?
He might just settle for making Obamacare great again.
Doubtful. As taking away obama's legacy is reward in and of itself.
Nonsense. She clearly masturbated to his speeches every night, and when she is in the tub.
SD;DR
I like how they label it "Reason Staff" on the TOC, and don't review SD as the author until you click.
They screwed up and mentioned her by name in the teaser (web version), so I'm just here for the comments.
I knew just from reading the title.
What the American right is saying is:
The racism and exhortation of the establishment is something that you are adding that has no basis in reality. Shikha: you're reflecting the racist thinking of the Democrats.
FWIW, as an immigrant of "white" European ancestry, I certainly do not want my former countrymen to immigrate to the US without restriction; after all, I came to the US to get away from those people. However, since European populations are shrinking, that restricting immigration from Europe just isn't an issue.
Generally, I think the US would do well to limit immigration from countries where anti-democratic ideologies prevail to those who can clearly demonstrate that they are committed to liberty and democrac; anti-democratic ideologies includes: socialism, communism, fascism, and political Islam.
Problem with that is twofold: how do you possibly get them to demonstrate love of liberty, and I would think people fleeing totalitarians are good candidates for Americans.
Re: Rational Exuberance,
What other restriction do you think there should exist besides THE MARKET?
Don't you want more of YOU to follow? Or is it rather a case of "I have mine and I don't want you to have yours"?
You mean like anarcho-capitalism, perhaps? Or what the fuck are you talking about?
No one has a right to come here Mexican. Just because you don't recognize nation states or borders doesn't mean no one else does. Stop begging the question and calling people racists for not sharing your fucked up assumptions.
Whether you know it or not, there are a lot of people out there you don't want to meet much less living next door to you. Just be thankful you live in a country where you can safely pretend otherwise.
Re: John,
Yes, they do, John. Everyone is born with freedoms, including the freedom to move. People have EVERY right to move to the US provided they do so peacefully and voluntarily, which entails engaging in property exchanges with other individuals who live in the US.
If what you want to argue is that YOU don't want anyone to migrate to the US, then that's a different thing that arguing on the basis of rights.
Don't put words in my mouth. I haven't called anyone a racist. Xenophobic and economically illiterate knuckle-draggers, perhaps. But I don't throw around the word 'racist' lightly because I know perfectly what it entails.
haven't called anyone a racist. Xenophobic and economically illiterate knuckle-draggers, perhaps. But I don't throw around the word 'racist' lightly because I know perfectly what it entails.
And you are an idiot who doesn't even understand his own position. You just want your fucking pony. You don't even know why you want it but you know you should have it.
So exercising this right requires they engage in property exchanges with others?
Curious sort of right that required a predicate act from another.
Almost communal....
The "freedom to move" refers to your freedom to leave where you currently are; it does not imply a duty of people to welcome you wherever you want to go.
The question of rights comes in two varieties.
The first is the "right to immigrate to a nation state", like the US. That is decided by current legal frameworks, and they do not recognize such a right.
The second is the "right to immigrate to an area" under classically liberal or libertarian principles. Under libertarian principles, no government can keep you from immigrating to an area, but the people living there certainly can, through private agreements. For example, in a libertarian world, and HOA or a town could decide "no Mexicans" or "no Muslims".
You apparently want the limitations on the freedom of association that come with a nation state (non-discriminatio, welfare system) with the government non-intervention of a libertarian state; that combination makes no sense.
This is one of the few areas where I disagree with libertarianism. If all people everywhere had respect for individual rights then we could have open borders, but look at the rape and sexual assault numbers in cities in Europe where large numbers of ME/NA men are arriving. Letting people come in as many numbers they want is fine if they come from a region with a culture that respects others...but that isn't always the case. We can't pretend that all immigrants are equal.
I don't think you are disagreeing with libertarianism. Libertarianism doesn't call for open borders for nation states, it calls for open borders for libertarian states.
No they don't have the right to move anywhere they want. And wishing real hard doesn't make it so. We are a sovereign facing nation, with borders, language and culture. Those things are important.
Listening to your bullshit just reinforces the point of why we need the border wall.
I'd be perfectly fine with "THE MARKET" being the only restriction. Under "THE MARKET", immigrants would not receive any government benefits, and anybody could discriminate against anybody else based on arbitrary criteria. But we don't live under "THE MARKET", we live in a social welfare state with strong restrictions on private association.
I want small numbers of highly skilled immigrants to follow from any country, after careful vetting. Small numbers of skilled immigrants aren't going to change US politics.
I view my immigration to the US as an equitable deal: I had certain specialized technical skills the US wanted, and the US paid for it with citizenship. Coming from Europe, there were complete, lifelong, trustworthy government records on me, including security clearances, educational history, religious, and political information. The US government obtained those and used them for vetting. The US was never under any obligation of taking that deal and could have reneged on it until the day I got citizenship. That's I think the way immigration ought to work in the US, and that's how it would work in a libertarian society.
I mean that the US uses the criteria that it has used in the past and that are widely used by other Western nations: immigration between Western Europe, the US, Canada, Australia, Japan, or New Zealand, is relatively easy, while immigration from totalitarian states, theocracies, and poor nations is much more restricted. That's a reasonable, practical non-libertarian immigration policy between non-libertarian democracies.
I think that's rather absurd actually. Many of those European immigrants came from countries with strong socialist or theocratic traditions; within a generation or two they were arguably better friends of liberty than the people who were here before them. Restricting immigration of people prone to violence or unable support themselves makes sense; but not letting someone in because the president of their country is a socialist? That's idiotic.
The most vehemently anti-socialist people in this country are the ones who lived through socialism, and came here to get away from it, and the most anti-capitalist are usually American born and only sympathize with socialism because they've never seen it up close.
If your reasoning is: we need to stop people from coming here who will probably vote democrat, fine, but. Then you can hardly complain when they vote democrat because the other side wants to kick them out. See what happens? Republican takes for granted than Mexican will vote dem, and so supports deportation; Mexican takes for granted that Republican supports deportation, and so votes dem. It's a cycle.
"I think that's rather absurd actually. Many of those European immigrants came from countries with strong socialist or theocratic traditions; "
That's because they were escaping from that shit. Most of the people that left Europe did so to get away from the class and oligarchy that had been oppressing them in search of freedom and liberty.
These days the INS shuns these types, and makes it as hard as possible for them to come here, while our elite and the political class seems to want those that want bigger government and can be controlled (be it through welfare or class warfare).
Its not necessarily where they are coming from but tends to be. White European settlers left Europe because they wanted something different. They wanted economic, religious and social freedoms from oppressive regimes in Europe.
Many immigrants don't want something different, they want money and a non-shithole to have a bunch of kids. I guess technically that is different.
They are fine with economic, religious and social rules as long as they benefit. That is the key difference.
The America those people integrated into was very different: it was a country that expected assimilation, had few government services, and didn't have private non-discrimination laws.
And those people came from failing socialist and communist regimes, not insidious European welfare states.
My reasoning is simple: (1) immigration to a nation state is a privilege, not a right, (2) people ought to comply with immigration law and immigration law ought to be enforced, (3) immigrants should demonstrably make a net economic contribution, and that means not using government welfare or other services for a decade until they naturalize, and (4) people coming to the US should be carefully vetted (which is easy if they come from Western Europe, hard when they come from hostile regimes).
"But Donald Trump's election has turned this story on its head given that whites are the ones who voted for him because they are Republicans. And minorities voted against him because they are Democrats."
Fixed.
Left out of the whole mention on immigration is the word ILLEGAL
Reason has decided not to even mention that as a valid point.
I suspect that is because Reason supports the socialist idea that public property in public for the world in order to support an "open borders" policy
What is it called when the government tells you you're not allowed to host someone on your private property because they didn't get the governments permission to do so?
That doesn't sound like private property at all.
What about when the government tells you you should host someone you didn't invite in the first place, or else?
The government makes you host illegal immigrants on your property?
Or is your position that public property belongs to you because you pay taxes? In which case, doesn't an illegal immigrant who pays taxes have as much a right to use public property as you?
If that's the question, whether they should be made to pay taxes, great. But rather than arresting them for "being here illegally" and carting them back to Mexico, why not arrest them for tax evasion, and have them pay back taxes? Seems less expensive and better for everyone.
What do you call it when the person you are hosting is paid for out of my pockets?
Oh yeah...a Socialist Welfare State!
You may host whomever you please when **I** am no longer forced to financially support your relationships.
Well, we don't live in a libertarian country right now. So, the government prevents you from "hosting" people on your property, which is wrong. But the government also forces others to associate with people they don't want to associate with, and more importantly, pay for the schooling, health care, retirement, housing, roads, etc. for others. So, as long as the US is not a libertarian country, all of us have to live with certain restrictions, and we have to work those out through the current political process.
If the US ever becomes libertarian, those processes become different. For example, you may still not be allowed to "host someone on your private property" because of the CC you had to agree to when buying that property.
Anyone should be able to come and visit, as long as they have someone who wants to host them. But they don't have a right to become citizens automatically unless they can demonstrate they respect pluralism, individual rights, etc. We don't want cities to start becoming Brussels and Cologne. It would take a lot longer here because we don't have a land bridge to the ME/NA but it could eventually happen.
It's unfortunate we can't have open borders but it wouldn't work because not all cultures respect fundamental human rights. If they did we could finally have open borders and even anarchy.
Fuck off Shika, you're a sorry, and almost always wrong, sack of shit.
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WTF? Oh so now "reason" supports identity politics. I'm sorry but for the last 16 years - and more - the individual has been screwed regardless of their "minority" status. Democracy without protecting the individual is nothing but two wolves and a sheep talking about what they will have for dinner. An putting every single person into some identity box is extremely anti-individual. In my twitter feed, a reason tweet, which appears to be nothing more that click-bait, appears next to the Mises Institute. Ones the adult, ones the child - I think Shika knows which is which deep down.
The left has brought us identity politics. Only now whites are embracing it. Good or bad it doesn't matter, that's what multi-cultural societies lead to.
I think Shikha is just trolling us now. Yeah sure, minorities are all for limited government and the constitution so they must be protesting HitlerTrump because he's threat to both! Is marijuana legal in Detroit now because she must have smoked a lot before writing this article.
I think it took about 1 sentence before I realized this article had to be written by Dalmia. The strawman she constructs here is pretty fucking impressive.
Just for the record, most conservatives and libertarians would say that the evolution of liberty came from western civilization (Though as many will credit the Enlightenment and classical Greek and Roman thought, as others will Christianity). However, outside of a few alt-right wackjobs, most of us non-leftists don't refer to race at all. And those of us who aren't totally open borders folks, do have a concern regarding the values of people coming here (nothing to do with religion. Remember, I am a fucking heathen. Literally.)
Now one can argue whether or not it is true that a majority of immigrants from certain areas do or do not tend to integrate the ideals of liberty into their hearts. But just starting off with "The American Right blah blah blah White Christian Establishment...."
Jonah Goldberg? Clarence Thomas? And are Italians considered white now? How about Greeks? And aren't the majority of those from Central America Catholics, therefore Christians? Or are we still considering papists as non-Christians? Who is talking about banning Hindus? or Buddhists?
Every time I read something like this article I want to ask the author if they think Ben Carson would have won the election had he taken the stances Trump did. You damn straight he would have. Yet someone, this whole thing is about protecting white people.
And what does she make of Nikki Haley? Or Bobby Jindal? I realize they are Christians now but, Haley was raised Sikh, and Jindal raised Hindu.
She wrote an article a while back referring to them as token Indians and alluded to them being Uncle Toms because they don't shout their racial loyalty from the rooftops.
It's kind of frustrating how Dalmia so concerned with promoting ethnic and religious group loyalties but when it comes to white people, it's racist for them to think of themselves as members of some sort of group, even when doing so as a reaction to having been placed in that group by her ilk in the first place.
Dalmia probably won't fare well when HUAC returns.
"Just for the record, most conservatives and libertarians would say that the evolution of liberty came from western civilization (Though as many will credit the Enlightenment and classical Greek and Roman thought, as others will Christianity)."
For all intents and purposes, this is true. And I'm endlessly amused at how people take offense to this notion.
The modern world essentially came from western society. I don't dress or act like some Ming dynasty scholar because most of Asia adapted western style clothing, architecture, and thoughts. The west is the birthplace to just about every scientific, medical and cultural breakthrough that transitioned most of the world from the dark ages to enlightenment.
Of course humanity has fought for a more representative government throughout the world. But white Europeans were the first to even implement something that even resembles a functioning democracy. America was probably the first nation with not only a constitution that guaranteed freedom but also dedicated citizenry (and checks and balances) who would stop tyrants from rewriting it.
That's something that zooms right by the left. "Dur the constitution was written by a bunch of white slave holders".
Hey, they tweet
All of my friends despise Reason Magazine nearly as much as this author despises white people.
I think if I start linking them to this author's articles they may come around; but than again I never before have advocated for organizations idealistically opposed to racial groups so I cannot in good faith promote Reason Magazine anymore as it publishes racially demeaning trash.
When minorities discover Trump is trying to get them jobs as well as the underemployed whites they will sing a different tune. It is still about the economy. I don't think he is going to be really successful at job creation, but I do believe he will try and start in the cities.
This is what really scared the DemoRats. If they lose a whole new generation of blue collar workers to the Republicans, the Democrap Party is finished.
Is it funny how when non-white racial groups get together on the basis of race to advance their own racial agenda it's supposed to be noble, but when whites do it, it's supposed to be racist?
"given that whites are the ones who voted for him because they wanted economic nationalism and protectionism"
You think that's why they voted for Trump?
FFS, you idiots will never learn...
BS, those minorities will keep electing big government liberals for as far as the eye can see
To repeat the comment I made when the article was first posted.
Minorities are consistently against first and second amendment rights, and they're generally down with watering down due process protection and increasing the executive power - especially if doing so enables the government to address their undying grievances and coddle their victimhood mentality. The twitter purge and the dystopian society being established in colleges everywhere are done on THEIR behalf.
Even beyond militant black racialists and Latino socialist sympathizers, most minorities cling to the idea of an "activist government" that works on behalf of the people. Reducing inequality, empowering the voiceless, protecting the weak - which is often accomplished by government force. If immigrants band together against Trump's immigration plans, it won't come from a deference to the constitution and limited government. Because they'll just as easily support Trump's populist regulatory scheme aimed at punishing Wall Street and the banks.
When government gets to pick who wins and who loses, we all lose...
"The whole purpose of the constitution is to protect the most vulnerable groups from tyranny. "
Well, that's an interesting read. How bout protecting everyone from tyranny? Or do the white folks who support Trump not deserve the same unilateral promise of protection that other oppressed minorities do?
Not according to the race baiters and collectivist nanny staters that get and hold power by deviding and conquering....
It then is an evil thing written by honkey slave holders.
daBoss, I was waiting for someone to catch that: "The whole purpose of the constitution is to protect the most vulnerable groups from tyranny"????
The Constitution's purpose is protect individuals from the tyranny of groups, and the Constitution does not recognize "group vulnerability." That this writer doesn't seem to get that is very disturbing. We are all "vulnerable" and the most vulnerable among us is an individual facing an audit by the IRS. I'd love to see a racial breakdown on who get's audited the most, huh? Think it's Muslims or Hispanics? Think again!
Some minorities are better than other minorities. What really matters is which minority groups are morally superior to all the others.
I'm told the 20-something leftist minority is morally superior compared to the white male minority.
I can only assume you're being facetious. If so, kudos on your sense of humor.
When Trump has the ability to pass legislation on his own, your hysterical nightmares just might come true...
You do not no the future. You speak with unwarranted certainty of things about which you can only speculate. Cool your jets.
Get it right. He HAS pledged to shut down the massive importation of illegal invaders coming here to leach off what little remainsof our wealth and prosperity, and desure to impose the policies, laws, values that have led to these hordes wanting to leave their former homes. VERY DIFFERENT business, that.
Face it, his WIFE is an immigrant and if memory serves, so were his parents.
Once you realize "white people" is Dania's shorthand for her concept of mainstream Americanism, then this will all make more sense.
Minorities will save the Constitution by voting for permanent one-party rule by the Democrats. And by "save," I mean "violently sodomize with a 20-grit sandpaper condom." Got it. Thank you, Shitstorm Dahmer, for another scintillating article.
Two words: Horse. Shit.
Is this site Reason or The Nation?
It is clear to me that SD knows nothing of what she writes about. Any idiot can regurgitate facile progressive pieties like this and then smear the usual suspects, the unwashed masses of the hinterlands. As a matter of fact, only idiots subscribe to progressive pieties. Hey SD, minorities don't need protection from Republicans, they need to be rooted out from under the Democrats who have failed these people miserably for decades. And Democrats fail because they don't so much govern as to help all, but connive to keep power.
I'm white, male, underemployed professional, atheist (formerly Christian) and center-right voter and I'm living here in what is evidently bigot land. And don't see any bigotry to speak of. We haven't hanged a nigger in some time now. And we stopped executing gays too. However, it did take us some time to give up our rape rooms, but we finally did.
That sea of red on the county-by-county electoral map populated by these poor, ignorant, flag waving, church going, family loving people just saved this country from electing the most corrupt, venal, and incompetent candidate for POTUS in my 58 years on this planet. Perhaps a "Thank you." is more in order than this virtue signally crap.
Donald Trump raises the rainbow flag, the convention audience applauds, and SD still thinks Trump and the Republicans have some deep-seated animosity towards minorities. I guess SD doesn't know that a larger percentage of Republicans in Congress voted for 60's civil legislation than Democrats.
It's obvious that Democrats in the large metro areas need to reassess their prejudices against their fellow citizens who don't live in LA or DC or NY. I would suggest that some libertarians might benefit from doing they same.
The progressive Left has made we Midwesterners and anyone else who votes center-right across the nation the whipping boy for supposedly everything that is wrong with America. They've had enough. I've had enough. Racism has no power in this country and hasn't had for some time, even here in Jesusland. It's still an issue ONLY because the Left use it every election cycle to smear their opponents, and by extension, their supporters. If you haven't figured that one out, well, what can I say.
And for several years now, center-right voters and those that speak for them have been routinely maligned by a whole cabal of left-wing "comedians" who seem to revel in berating them for who and what they are. Stewart, Colbert, McFarlane, Oliver, etc. hurl contempt and invective with relish. And I'm disgusted at all the Democrat partisans who live with us here who refuse to come to our defense. Probably afraid they will called racist by their fellow Donks or something, go figure.
This atheist is proud of the people here in "flyover country" and thank them all, ESPECIALLY all you Evangelicals, for stopping the progressive Borg freight train, at least for now. Reason, not so much.
A self discrediting article since latinos actually voted in larger numbers than expected for Trump. And for those who didn't, since when is a vote for democrats a vote for constitutional liberty and free markets? And since when is it a "right", in the language of the author, to work illegally in the united states? This article is complete fail.
I live right on the border in the Rio Grande Valley which was inundated with juvenile migrants the last couple years fleeing the violence in Central America. Not only has it strained city resources but the strongest push for crackdown of illegal immigration came from my contractor customers who are legal immigrants themselves. They realize that the rule of law is a necessary condition for civil society and if we start ignoring immigration law for "the feelz" then where does it stop.
"Immigrants, hailing from Big Government countries, dilute these American principles. This has always been nonsense."
The Mexico and the countries of Central America have never been known for their large governments. To the contrary. Their anarchic governments and plutocratic economies and the lack of the opportunity that exists as a result are the primary drivers of mass migration across our Southern borders.
The countries of the Middle East, with their backwards monarchies and oppressive dictatorships are not models of big government, and it is those countries from which immigrants flee to Europe.
To suggest that Christianity and the notion of the Individual that it fostered are not the basis of Western Civilization is balderdash in its highest form.
None of this is meant to suggest that immigration is not a net benefit to this Nation, it most certainly is. Mexicans work unbelievably hard for exploitation wages and Muslim Americans are industrious as well. However, the author rashly diminishes the value of the traditions that allowed liberal democracy to take root and that lies within the Christian value system that developed in Europe in the Middle Ages.
No, most minorities voted against Trump for the same reason they vote against every Republican, because they saw him as a threat to their government 'freebies'. Love of the Constitution had little, if anything, to do with it.
I never understand why this closet leftist Shikha Dalmia gets space on reason with her progressive views masked ans pseudo libertarian views. Since when did Libertarians started talking like bigots on left who always see everything as "white men doing this", "Blacks doing that" ?
The bullwark of liberty need not be painted with colors of race. Yet, almost every single statistical study goes to show that chinese, japanse, Indian immigrants overwhelmingly support more and more leftist ideas and do not believe in liberty as much as normal white americans do. We must remember that Indians, Chinese etc. come to USA because they FAILED to build a free market based economy in their own country.
Maybe she is one of Fonzie's girlfriends. According to Happy Days the the Leather Jacket dude had over 100 girlfriends.
Open Borders Uber Alles!
Data is waycissss!
Only feelz matter!
Notice how Shikha neglected to provide any *data* about immigrant attitudes toward big government?
I wonder why that is.
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The "White Establishment"? Was this a mis-post intended for Workers of the World Weekly, Red-Guards Edition?
The White Man is the Devil!
So someone Reason finally addresses the issue, and their argument is to call the argument nonsense.
Well reasoned argument there, Shikha! Sure you don't want to throw in a few shrieks of "Racist!" while you're at it? Just so we know it's you?
Below are some *facts* about hispanic attitudes toward big government.
PEW documents immigrant bias for Big Government across the spectrum, illegal or legal, 1st or 2nd generation, various countries of origin.
The basic political culture of LIberty is largely confined to the Anglosphere and locales once ruled by the Anglosphere. When you import people, you import their political culture with them.
PEW Research on Hispanic Americans
http://www.pewresearch.org/fac.....democrats/
Hispanics Lean Democratic over 3 to 1
http://www.pewhispanic.org/201.....-religion/
Hispanics Want Bigger Government Providing More Services over 3 to 1
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This litany of fear-mongering is becoming tiresome. Objective analysts are concluding that Trump won because American voters of all communities were tired of being talked down to, patronized, described pejoratively, and otherwise dismissed as unable to manage their own affairs or get along with their neighbors without the elites stepping in to save the day.
Democrat lies (and yes they were lies) created a climate of fear that has resulted in, among other things, rioting in Democrat-held cities and apprehension among those who have benefited from lax or even absent enforcement of the law or who expect their favored government-funded programs to continue unchecked and unreviewed.
To be perfectly honest, I expect better of Reason Magazine and Foundation, but I guess you too have succumbed to wiles of the sore losers.
Plenty of prog writers here. Dalmia, Chapman, Richman, etc. I bet most of them voted for Hillary.
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This is not a great article. Yes, whites went for Trump and minorities went for Clinton-- but as the Hispanic numbers exemplify, the differences were not large. 60% of whites without a college education went for Romney in 2012, and 54% of whites with a college education went for him. Not a lot different from the numbers cited above. 93% of black people voted Democratic that year, as did around 70% of Hispanics and around 70% of Asians. Those are all pretty close to in line with 2016's votes.
You're right, minorities just didn't show up-- but that isn't much of an argument that they'll save American Constitutional traditions. They've sure been voting for the party much guiltier of twisting and contorting the Constitution for its own ends.
The headline is actually correct. What is objectionable about this article is the identification of "minority" with non-white ethnicity. This is a typical Prog-Lib trope and should be rejected by any reasonable person. The only kind of minority that should matter in a free society is the political minority. And the first step to defending inalienable rights, and the constitution, involves having a grasp of this basic fact. A coalition of the embattled minorities, those who want more responsibility and less coddling from the state; will ultimately be what saves the constitutional tradition.