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Trump Is Stacking His Team With Aggressive Nativists

This does not bode well for any future softening of his immigration policy

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The irony of the Obama presidency is that its most enduring legacy might be the Great Wall of Trump. That's because President Obama made the fatal decision to

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use up all his political capital in his first term on health care reform, which had zero Republican support and is unlikely to survive as written. And he neglected immigration reform, which had considerable Republican support and would have survived – obviating the need for the wall and the rest of Trump's immigration nonsense.

But now that we have President-elect Trump, exactly how aggressively will he pursue his draconian plans? As I noted before, his campaign agenda was plucked straight from the playbook of the nativist Center for Immigration Studies and its media acolyte, The National Review. He wants to build a big, beautiful wall on the Southern border and deploy thousands more agents to patrol it, deport millions of the undocumented along with their American families, scrap birthright citizenship, and rethink all economic immigration.

The hope of pro-immigration libertarians and others has been that once in office and confronted with the humanitarian horrors, economic downside and political backlash that this agenda would unleash, Trump would back off. He has an immigrant wife who possibly worked in the country illegally so the plight of the undocumented is not unknown to him. Before he announced his candidacy, he was a friend of immigration, even attributing Romney's loss to his harsh restrictionist talk. And there was that brief moment during his campaign, after all, when he seemed to be softening and even backing off from his opposition to "amnesty." It made Ann Coulter apoplectic, but Rush Limbaugh and, if memory serves, even Sean Hannity were willing to hop on board the Trump amnesty train so his base is malleable on the issue. Furthermore, the political upside to enacting his harsh agenda is small given that "building a wall" is at the rock bottom of the priorities of GOP voters, below repealing Obamacare, fighting ISIS, tax reform, and building infrastructure. Hence, it would make political sense for him to make some cosmetic fixes to appease the more reasonable parts of base, say screw you to the alt-righters and call it a day.

And there is a chance that things may still work out that way. The task of governing can have a sobering effect, after all, at least on normally constituted humans. But the first signs emanating from the Trump Tower are not promising.

For starters, Trump singled out arch-restrictionist Sen. Jeff Sessions of Alabama for praise in his victory speech. Sessions has done more than any human alive to torpedo every sensible immigration reform effort and makes no bones about his wish to basically stop all immigration. He moves the goalposts on reform constantly, recently even calling for the elimination of the H-1B visa program for foreign techies, which sent chills down the IT sector's spine. Yet Trump described Sessions as a "great man"– signaling that Sessions has both his ear and a cabinet appointment, possibly as attorney general where he'll be in a position to inflict maximum terror on immigrants. Worse, just this afternoon he shook up his transition team to offer Rick Dearborn, Sessions chief of staff in his Washington office, the role of transition director, demoting Chris Christie and further elevating Sessions influence in his inner circle.

But even more chilling is Trump's naming Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, an alt-right hero, to his transition team this afternoon. Kobach, who is a "one-stop shop" for restrictionist lawmakers, is the architect of Arizona's draconian SB 1070—"your papers please" legislation – that basically gives authorities an open invitation for racial profiling in order to ferret out illegals. Kobach was also behind Trump's plan to build a wall and make Mexico pay for it by threatening to stop remittances, even though it would mean wrapping some banks in huge amounts of red tape. For example, money-transfer companies such as Western Union would have to verify the identity and lawful presence in America of any individual—foreigner or citizen, legal or illegal—who wants to remit money anywhere in the world.

The prospect of Kobach as DHS secretary and Sessions as AG or some such combination will strike terror in the heart of the Latino community. The near certainty that the duo would scrap DAPA and DACA – Obama's executive orders that offered DREAMers, illegals brought to America as minors, and their parents' temporary relief from deportation – is bad enough. The bigger fear, however, is that they'd use the identity information gleaned through these programs to hunt down illegals and deport them. Many of them are likely to get fake identity documents and melt away in the informal economy to avoid this fate.

Exactly that fear is also haunting New York Mayor Bill de Blasio. He announced today that he would destroy city databases containing personal information of thousands of undocumented immigrants living in New York City to keep them from being abused by Donald Trump and his administration.

Such acts of civil disobedience will only grow if Trump proceeds with his deportation plans. Facing the dilemma of having to choose between obeying the law or obeying their humanity, Americans will choose humanity.

So let's hope Trump doesn't go there.

P.S. For more tea-leaf reading of Trump's immigration plans, read Cato Institute's Alex Nowrasteh's post here.

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112 responses to “Trump Is Stacking His Team With Aggressive Nativists

    1. Bombing the immigrants before they get here… I never considered that. HILLARY 2020!

      1. Clinton is of Cytotoxic school of immigrant attraction.

        You bomb the fuck out of them where they live. The fastest and most capable reach your shores. Then you let them all in, because they have proven their Darwinian superiority.

        It’s like hunting with beaters.

        1. After months of Cyto telling us how Trump had no chance because of POLLS!!!!!, it’s a shame he couldn’t even stop buy to take a bit of the medicine he deserves.

            1. That is pretty sick. My youngest was born with Trisomi 21. She is everything to me. The R word does bother me on Reason’s comments section. I’m not gonna run and get a quorum for cry-in about it though.

              1. In Cytotoxic’s case I think it was less a complaint about other retards and more a desperate plea for euthanasia.

                1. Holy shit, I made pretty much the same joke in that thread. God I’m getting predictable.

              2. Few people who use the “r-word” (guilty!) have any actual ill-will towards people with down’s syndrome or other genetic birth defects. But that shit was one of the most awful things ever said around here.

            2. Damn, that dude is messed up. I’ve seen people reference his stupidity before, but haven’t had the “pleasure” of reading one of his comments before. What a sheep-fucker

              1. Hey, that’s insulting to people who actually make sweet love to consenting sheep

              2. Cytotoxic is a teenaged Canadian retard.

            3. I use retard a lot but not in that vain not unlike when was say ‘you’re gay’. It has no ill-will. But I can see why it would upset people and respect that.

              What he said was horrific. Absolutely abhorrent. Very eugenics.

              These people are humans and deserve the full respect, protection and love as any.

              1. I got ruthlessly run off of my job at a high-tech job by co-working “team-mates” that were Bible-banging anti-abortion whack jobs! They could fall all over themselves one minute condemning evil people who would chose to abort a Down’s Syndrome proto-child (AKA “retard”), and then the next minute, pull all sorts of shit (including taking credit for my work), doing ANYTHING to make themselves look smart, and me look stupid, for the tiniest mistakes, so that they could keep their jobs, and I would lose mine. People like me are EVIL for even THINKING about wanting to genetically engineer my next kid to be smarter, for wanting to “play God”, while these Bible-Bangers ruthlessly use THEIR intelligence to tear down teamwork and co-operation. They “play God” by ruthlessly back-stabbing in corporate politics. The “God” in their brains KNOWS that THEY deserve a job, and I do not!!! They do their best to be “smarter” than all the rest (or be perceived to be such), at any expense. Then they wonder why anyone wouldn’t want to take measures to have smarter chidren! To compete against asshole like you, you evil bastards!!!! ?. If you want to condemn the “God-players”, PLEASE make sure you ain’t doing the same!!!!

    2. Today i saw a group of Hispanic children crossing the street get run over by a pickup truck with Trump 2016 bumper stickers. It then played “Dixie” on its horn and did donuts on their bodies.

      1. 5 stars for humour.

      2. Some asshole CA congressman (I think it was Garamendi) was just on Wolf Blitzer a little while ago. He was seriously saying that in California, because of Trump’s election, that kindergarten children were yelling it was now OK to be racist and openly starting attacks against girls and minorities. Five-year-olds. Right. As if they even know what any of that means or can even think about it.

        Good grief, these people are still so tin-eared after the election they think the way to get back in control is make up even more crazy fear-baiting crap about Trump and his followers. Well, I guess Kindergarten is a German word just like Kristallnacht, right Congressman?

        This was on a national news program. And I’m sure there were lots of this week’s whiners across the country nodding in agreement, believing every word this prick was making up, saying to themselves they knew exactly this would happen.

      3. So are you looking forward to the scenes of suffering and humiliated deportees being dragged from their homes, or is that something you think isn’t going to happen?

        1. I guess it’s possible he could actually try to continue Obama’s deportation policies.

  1. If only Lanny Davis and John Podesta and Leon Pannetta were in charge again!

    1. I’m reminded of the episode of Veep where Selena Meyer calls her three staffers into her office saying, “Come on kittens, time to get drowned!”

  2. Exactly that fear is also haunting New York Mayor Bill de Blasio. He announced today that he would destroy city databases containing personal information of thousands of undocumented immigrants living in New York City to keep them from being abused by Donald Trump and his administration.

    Huh. Sounds like they are documented to me.

    1. But citizens don’t get the same courtesy. Are you legal? Abuse away!

    2. … to keep them from being abused by Donald Trump and his administration.

      But you can keep abusing them as cheap nannies and maids.

    3. Its almost like we shouldn’t have put so much power into the hands of the federal government or something.

  3. Here’s the deal: Corporations get to repatriate their overseas earnings and get a new, lower, less loopholey rate in exchange for getting off the H1-B train. Once Silicon Valley is bought off, the reform/amnesty movement will collapse.

    1. All of my clients have stopped hiring H1-B, period.

      1. Hype,
        As someone who will likely have to compete with H1-Bs shortly, why have your clients gotten off that train?

        1. Just a shift in policy and I can’t tell you exactly why they made that decision. But I think it has more to do with the complexity of the regulations regarding employment for H1-Bs than it does for the desire to employ citizens and permanent residents who need employment.

  4. I started reading the article, then a couple paragraphs in, it dawned on me…hey, it is Shikha.

  5. This stuff is just getting ridiculous now.

    “Trump better not cut taxes and gut Obamacare! He better not deport criminal illegal immigrants! He better not eliminate onerous regulations!”

    It’s like people are ignoring the reason Trump got elected in the first place.

    1. That he pandered to voters better?

    2. Actually, a whole bunch of voters didn’t vote for Trump or his policies. They voted to keep Hillary out of the Oval Office.

    3. That Hillary sucked that hard?

  6. I’m willing to bet Trump cuts a deal with Democrats on immigration that goes for border security and some form of amnesty myself.

    I almost want to see the wall built at this point just because so many people talk about it like its impossible. I had one guy – a raging prog – say it couldn’t be built and would take years to go through all the ridiculous government regulations to even get started. This is a guy who thinks government regulation makes everything better.

    A Great Wall of Trump as the most enduring monument of America.

    1. a raging prog – say it couldn’t be built and would take years to go through all the ridiculous government regulations to even get started.

      That, by itself, is hilarious.

    2. Empire State Building took a year to build in 1930-1931

      Should have been the same with the Twin Towers. Immediately build them, and make them look exactly the same. (Though I did like the cartoons that made the newly rebuilt towers look like a giant middle finger.)

      Instead, a decade of maudlin whining and bureaucratic jerking off until we built a hole in the ground commemorating the victory of our enemies.

      Building the Wall quickly would be a yuuuuge symbolic victory for Trump.

    3. Anyone who wants to build The Wall should follow the route from the Pacific to the Gulf, on horseback. Take side trips to see the tunnels that have been constructed under the border. Trace the air routes over the border. Go on a cruise in one of the submarines built to bypass the border.

      Then research the Berlin Wall, and how porous it was. Check out the Maginot Line.

      Walls don’t work.

      1. The Israelis seem to be having pretty good luck with their wall. Of course, it is a fraction of the potential length. It certainly wouldn’t stop the cartels from getting drugs across, but it would probably slow down the immigrants who predominantly walk over the border.

        1. So the least dangerous group of people crossing would be slowed at enormous expense and a huge new federal bureaucracy?

          Sounds reasonable.

          1. Is the wall going to be built on the Mexican side of the Rio Grande R.? Is it going to be in the middle of the River, or will it be built on the Texas side of the River? It is really difficult to tunnel under a river, so I suspect it will be very effective in keeping the undesirables out of the Texas. Will the wall have barbed wire strung along the top? How tall the wall? Will there be gates and bridges across/thru which legal migrants may pass? Will there be a ribbon cutting ceremony when Trump christens the new wall’s completion? Will there be beautiful murals and graffiti allowed on the wall? I think this will be just so interesting. I can’t wait to see the documentary, “Making America’s Great Wall,” when it airs on the Nat Geo channel.

  7. Trump Is Stacking His Team With Aggressive Nativists

    Good.

    1. Does that mean we’re going to be ruled by Navajos?

      1. No, the Five Civilised Tribes. They got the jump on all those casinos already. Troomputin* has shown them the way to the way to unlimited power.

        *In Russian, “Put'” literally means, “The Way,”‘ “Putin,” literally means “One’s Way (path).” “Rasputin,” literally means, “One who spreads or exudes The Way,”

        1. I have exuded The Way on many occasions, usually with consenting female humans.

          1. Indeed. Clean your beard too, would’ja? Sheesh, he was Rasputin, not (((RASPJOOTIN’)))*

            *Mama Maximus is also (((Mama Maximus))), FTR.-)

            1. That’s something I didn’t know. So the issue would also be Zhid. I may have to have The Talk with them as they get presented their (((gold))).

        2. The -in suffix is a way to make a name derived from a concept. Stal’ (steel) -> Stalin, Lena (Lena River) -> Lenin, Rasput (crossroad) -> Rasputin.

      2. Casino coupons for all

  8. I remember back when the drug war was raging in California, when Bush Jr. was invading Iraq like it was a great idea. I remember back before ObamaCare, when Bush and Obama collectively squandered $750 billion out of our future paychecks on bailing out Wall Street, nationalizing GM, and stimulus that didn’t do anything but keep useless state employees employed and ridiculously overpaid.

    I remember back when Goldman Sachs used to be the engine of creative destruction–the flagship of American capitalism. Then came Dodd-Frank. Then came ObamaCare. Then came the NSA tracking my phone calls and my emails. Then came the threat of Hillary Clinton being given a popular mandate to ignore the rule of law. Then came the threat of Hillary Clinton nominating as many three Supreme Court justices to flush away my Second Amendment rights.

    Eight years ago, immigration was much more of an important issue to me than it is today.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iVvESik9CA

  9. Trump had better build the wall before rounding up the illegals otherwise there won’t be anyone here to build it.

    Canada seems to have a decent foreign workers program. IIRC they are allowed to get permission to work for 9 months but then they have to leave.

    As someone with personal experience in the realities of construction work in Texas it will kill the construction business if all the illegals are kicked out. I think Trump is too business and construction smart to make that mistake

    Building costs would skyrocket if that happens and, at least for a period of time, make it impossible to build anything for the want of skilled trades while the labor market found it’s water level..

    1. As someone with personal experience in the realities of construction work in Texas it will kill the construction business if all the illegals are kicked out. I think Trump is too business and construction smart to make that mistake

      Meaning you couldnt pay shit wages so shit developer could buy his Dyson. I am a veteran that lives in his truck and earns less than 10.00/hour There are hundreds of thousand of us. I.e. the people that voted for trump. Ill take that job. Fuck the illegals. Like there werent houses built before parasite developers. Fuck them too. They need to go to prison for aiding and abetting in violating federal immigration law.

      1. Holy fuck, dude. What happened?

      2. I’m guessing you’re going to see a lot more of this very soon if we kick out the illegals:

        http://newatlas.com/hadrian-br…..ick/38239/

        A lot of folks, certainly truck drivers and miners, are going to be pissed off fairly soon when they realize jobs are coming back to America, but a lot of those jobs aren’t for humans. Agriculture is next. Home construction, at least for tracts and low end homes, will probably move that way in ten years.

        The world is changing. Trump can’t save you.

        1. Another thought… I wonder how fast that robot could build a wall?

    2. “As someone with personal experience in the realities of construction work in Texas it will kill the construction business if all the illegals are kicked out”

      Good. Let Mexico annex Texas and keep your workers.

  10. I was concerned that Chris Christie would end up with an important position in the Trump administration, but the reports I’m seeing suggest that Trump is distancing himself from Chris Christie.

    1. I LOVE THIS SO MUCH!!!!!!!!

      Unfortunately, he’ll have to go to great distances to escape Christ Christie, The Corpulent Jesus’ shadow and gravitational pull.

      Fuck that Fat Fucker with a concrete dildo coated in expoxy and Shrill-Bot’s Glass Ceiling Shards. I am convinced that (alleged) man is more dangerous that any of Troomp’s possible picks and known toadies.

  11. SD;WNRA

    1. Yep, now she’s just stoking people’s irrational fears that a pair of orange hands will appear behind every immigrant regardless of legal status and drag them to the border to throw them over a wall.

      We come to this site to read articles written by libertarians, not condescending leftist screeds. If we wanted those, we have our pick of MSM flavors.

  12. Sorry, but cannot take this article seriously, considering the source.

  13. Sorry this is a cross post, but related to the article. I’ve also heard that Christie is not going to be involved in the transition team, but that Peter Thiel will be, which would be great news for libertarians. Never trust Politico. They ran almost the exact same story about Christie back when Trump opened up his campaign by saying that Christie was going to head up the Trump campaign. About 2 days later, I found out there was no truth to it. Politico is a joke.

  14. 1. Where tf is the style editor?

    2. Manichaean hypotheticals proliferate.

    3. Tears, idle tears, I know not what they mean,
    Tears from the depth of some divine despair
    Rise in the heart, and gather to the eyes,

  15. I will donate $100 to the Reason Foundation if you are fired.

    1. BY GRABTHAR’S HAMMER, WHAT A SAVINGS!

    2. I will donate $100 on top of that if they do it by having President-elect Trump deliver a personalized “You’re fired!” to her.

  16. “Trump Is Stacking His Team With Aggressive Nativists
    This does not bode well for any future softening of his immigration policy”

    Giggity!

    Imagine, the nationalist who said “Build the Wall” is picking other nationalists for his team.

    “He wants to build a big, beautiful wall on the Southern border and deploy thousands more agents to patrol it, deport millions of the undocumented along with their American families, scrap birthright citizenship, and rethink all economic immigration.”

    Yay!

    Trump! Trump! Trump! Trump! Trump! Trump! Trump! Trump! Trump!
    Trump! Trump! Trump! Trump! Trump! Trump! Trump! Trump! Trump!
    (Sing to Darth Vader’s theme)

    “Exactly that fear is also haunting New York Mayor Bill de Blasio. He announced today that he would destroy city databases containing personal information of thousands of undocumented immigrants living in New York City to keep them from being abused by Donald Trump and his administration.”

    Obstruction of Justice!
    Off with his head!
    (Has Trump appointed Ann Coulter as Queen of Hearts yet?)

      1. *smooches*

    1. Has Trump appointed Ann Coulter as Queen of Hearts yet?

      I heard Juice Newton was getting that gig.

    2. Y’all recall “Men in Black”? The little Ho-Monk-Ulus space alien that was shown inside Trump’s dead-body head, trying to pull the levers and tweak the knobs to make The Donald’s dead body go berserk again? ? OK, I know, that was fiction? Trump ain’t dead yet (but there’s always hope!)

      What I want to know, though, is WHEN is Trump going to export that illegal alien pulling the levers inside his orange-haired nappy-ho head?!?!?1

  17. What exactly is wrong with a border wall?

    Screw the symbolism, etc., but on that specific proposal – if we’re going to have *any* immigration laws, wouldn’t it be better to make illegal immigration at least a tad more difficult?

    Oh, no, it won’t stop them all! What policy *would* cause total enforcement of all laws?

    Oh, no, too expensive! OK, I’ll listen to that complaint from libertarians, but not from progs.

    1. Haven’t you been following Shikha’s “work”? Border walls are racist because the US is mostly white and everyone on the other side is mostly brown. That’s racist.

      1. If your rationale for keeping people out is that brown people are a threat to American culture, that is racist.

        1. It’s not their skin color that makes them a threat to American culture, it’s their culture (and their numbers), combined with the reigning SJW mania. Press 1 for English, Hazel. And take that piggy bank off your desk because it might offend a Muslim.

          1. It’s not their skin color that makes them a threat to American culture, it’s their culture (and their numbers)

            Still racist.

            Culture is not fixed. And Americans are at least as statist as Hispanics, as evidenced by Trump himself. He’s the white version of Juan Peron. A big government nationalist who rails against trade and immigrants while protecting the welfare state and proposing a big Keynesian infrastructure package.

      2. Funny how no one wants to build a wall on the Canadian border.

    2. “What exactly is wrong with a border wall?”

      It’s expensive.

      It’s useless.

      And it’s a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist.

      1. Washington Post estimated the border wall would cost $25 million.

        About 3% of what was handed out in Stimulus 1.
        Just for perspective.

        1. Of course I meant Billion, not million.

        2. I’d like to see those specifications.

          I can’t build a 400,000 square foot industrial park for that.

        3. Well, Trump is a Keynesian stimulus kind of guy, and you know the people building it will be white and working class , so….

        4. Also factor in the newly beefed up Border Patrol/Internal Security Police required to round up, house, and deport 11 million people, and assume they’re permanent because, “federal employees”.

  18. Shikha’s tears are delicious.

    1. So salty!

  19. Text of Trump’s immigration speech:

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/08…..mmigration

    Take a few minutes to read it directly without having the media spin it for you.

    Excerpts:

    The time has come for a new immigration commission to develop a new set of reforms to our legal immigration system in order to achieve the following goals:

    To keep immigration levels, measured by population share, within historical norms.
    To select immigrants based on their likelihood of success in U.S. society, and their ability to be financially self-sufficient. We need a system that serves our needs ? remember, it’s America First.
    To choose immigrants based on merit, skill and proficiency.
    And to establish new immigration controls to boost wages and to ensure that open jobs are offered to American workers first.
    We want people to come into our country, but they have to come in legally and properly-vetted, and in a manner that serves the national interest.

    1. He’s literally copying Canadian immigration rules.

      OK, now I believe he’s a fascist!

      1. People would be surprised to see how tough Canada is on immigration.

    2. To select immigrants based on their likelihood of success in U.S. society, and their ability to be financially self-sufficient. We need a system that serves our needs ? remember, it’s America First.

      This already exists. There are requirements that the immigrant prove their ability to support themselves for at least 5 years after entry.

      And to establish new immigration controls to boost wages and to ensure that open jobs are offered to American workers first.

      This also already exists. it’s called a “labor certification”.

      Geez, it’s like you people don’t have a fucking clue what the immigration laws right now actually are.

      1. None of that applies to illegals, or to “family reunification,” or to refugees.

        1. “Family reunification” is exactly what is meant by the family sponsorship category of current immigration law.

          If you want to change immigration law to make employment sponsorship easier and make family sponsorship harder, great. But that would mean getting RID of the laws saying people have to prove to the Department of Labor that no American worker can take the job before they can employ an immigrant. That would mean more H1B visas not less.

          Less family sponsorship would definitely reduce the number of unskilled laborers who immigrate legally. But that would merely mean more of them would immigrate illegally, which of course puts them into the black market with all the problems that entails.

          What the Bush administration proposed (over and over to deaf ears) was a guest-worker program to let people come here for a couple of years, make some money and then go home.

  20. Build a wall between Reason and Shikha Dalmia. Make Reason Great Again!

    1. Hey Reason, great fundraiser idea. Buy bricks for the wall to block Shikha….

      You’ll make a fortune….

  21. I see the pragmatic and humane solution in four steps.

    1. Immigration visas should be considered on the basis of our economic need and not the immigrants’.

    2. All other immigration is frozen for a period to be determined, in order to allow for assimilation of the 46 million immigrants already here – ~20 years perhaps.

    3. The southern border is secured.

    4. After culling the undocumented criminal element and deporting them, otherwise law-abiding undocumented immigrants presently in the United States are given legal status and an eventual path to citizenship. We cannot have a permanent class of secondary legal status.

    1. All other immigration is frozen for a period to be determined,

      So I guess you’re going to pass a law that criminalizes marrying someone that isn’t an American, right?

      1. Perhaps one can compromise if you are traveling in Japan, fall in love and want to bring your spouse to the U.S. Seems like that would be the exception, not the rule. Otherwise, what does marrying someone who isn’t American have to do with immigration? If they’re in the U.S. you can marry them. The same rules of residency and citizenship apply. Or, are you talking about importing mail order brides?

        You’re creating a polemic where none exists.

        1. Presumably one wants one’s spouse to be able to live and work in the US. The number one family sponsorship category right now is husband-wife. If you’re going to halt all immigration, that means that you’re going to stop giving green cards to people’s foreign wives/husbands.

  22. Wouldn’t it be GREAT if we fixed the WELFARE STATE that attracts illegals to come here in the first place? If they weren’t allowed to be here and collect free shit, they probably wouldn’t come here and if they did they would go through proper channels. I WISH the world operated as one perfect free market with voluntary giving to others, but it doesn’t. It’s just a free shit gravy train that benefits the grifters who take from the productive and give to the unproductive. WHY DON’T YOU AT LEAST TALK ABOUT THAT? But of course you don’t.

    Between Robby and Ron it’s tough to come here anymore. Anymore of these and it won’t even be worth navigating through to read the 5% of the comments that can be witty and funny in the comment sections.

    I am desperately trying not to spin to the conservative vortex like some other libertarian pundits I’ve respected, but anymore of these shitty articles and I’m just going to have to accept that “libertarianism” is going to split itself and watershed until the Great Adjustment is over. I was hoping we’d be the sensible ones to keep the nutty left and the nutty right from turning this into a bloody mess. But it just doesn’t seem that’s going to be the case.

    1. Hmmm, I guess we should elect a guy who promises not to cut entitlements by a penny. That will solve that welfare state problem.

    2. But if we didn’t support the welfare state we’d be heartless and non-progressive libertarians….

  23. Spot on, Shikha.

    The anti-immigrationist camp often argues that Hispanic immigration is a threat to liberty because Hispanics (supposedly) come from a culture that is innately statist and socialist leaning.

    So they proceed to elect the American version of Juan Peron – an authoritarian populist. Hugo Chavez in white face.

    1. Still bummed that Herself didn’t win, eh?

      1. Hazel looks at Latin America and sees a bunch of libertarian-leaning countries…?

        1. I look at Latin America and see a bunch of white Christians.

          1. Seriously, we should be thanking our lucky stars that we’re getting immigrants from Catholic countries with a Western European heritage, rather than Arab Muslims.

            1. They are better than Muslims, sure, but they still vote against liberty when they can vote, and increase the power of statists by flocking to blue states, thus increasing their electoral college weight.

      2. I voted for Johnson.

  24. Oh fuck, cmon now, this is absolute bullshit.

    Reason, send Shicka (I know it’s spelled wrong, don’t care) to fuckikg Slate already….

  25. Those who take Hairman Booring literally are fools. He’s a negotiator; he takes extreme positions and then works back from them to get a compromise done.

    The upside to his win is that the MSM will be so far up his admin’s ass there will be no chance of corruption and malfeasance going unnotixced.

    For me, that’s a great selling point because if Bill’s wife – the unindicted criminal – had won, the most controversial news item that would surface about her would be what Chelsea will name her next kid.

    The Trump years won’t be perfect, but they will be far better than another run through with the Clintons…

  26. “Trump Is Stacking His Team With Aggressive Nativists”

    Excellent!

  27. I suspected that Trump’s rhetoric on Mexico would not “offend” minorities at large because after all – in addition to being people from totally different cultures, many Asians and blacks couldn’t care less about Latinos, and vice versa. If you trash talk Japan in front of a Korean, you might actually see a smile.

    Blacks stayed home this year, and 30% of Asians and Latinos reportedly voted for Trump. California was probably the only state where the immigration vote was prominent. I think the Trump win is an indication that America wants to move away from immigration drama. You just can’t keep asking the voters to mind this issue EVERY SINGLE YEAR.

    The conspiracy theorist in me says years of hispandering by the DNC finally got to blacks. They might be resenting the growing influence of Latinos and the amnesty drive.

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