There Is No Violent Hate-Crimewave in 'Trump's America'
Please stop spreading unsubstantiated stories of Trump-induced terror.
See an update on post-election hate crimes, hoaxes, and hyperbole here.
Let's get this out of the way: there's no doubt that Donald Trump's policies may pose a direct threat to certain classes of American people. But in the wake of his Tuesday night election as president of the United States, there has been a wave of people worrying for the physical safety of Mexicans, Muslims, and anyone else who isn't white, male, and gender-conforming. The fear seems to legitimately be that there are would-be perpetrators of sexual assault and race-based violence that have been well-behaved so far but will now, emboldened by a President-elect Trump, suddenly go wild with the raping and the hate crimes.
Implausible? I think so. But the narrative has been bolstered by a few high-profile incidents of alleged aggression in Trump's America.
The first one to really go viral involved a Muslim female student at the University of Louisiana who claimed to have had her hijab ripped off and her wallet stolen the day after Trump's election by two white men wearing Trump hats. But on Thursday, local police announced that the young woman had admitted she fabricated the story. "This incident is no longer under investigation," the Lafayette Police Department said in a press release.
In another incident, this one in San Diego, a young Muslim woman's purse and car were stolen by one white male and one Hispanic male. While the men allegedly made negative comments about Muslims, it seems car stealing was more their motivation than harassment or intimidation—which is obviously shitty, but not necessarily a Trump-inspired act of bigotry.
And an alleged incident of a gay man named Chris Ball getting beaten up by Trump supporters in Santa Monica on election night seems to have not happened the way it was initially recounted, if the incident even happened at all. The Santa Monica Police Department posted a message to Facebook Thursday saying that neither the department nor city officials had "received any information indicating this crime occurred in the City of Santa Monica" and "a check of local hospitals revealed there was no victim of any such incident admitted or treated."
Other instances of "Trump inspired" violence and vandalism have also turned out to be hoaxes or misinterpretations. An alleged Ku Klux Klan rally in honor of Trump's victory turned out to be an old photo of conservatives carrying U.S., Gadsden, and Christian flags that were billowing out in a manner mistaken in a grainy photo for Klan robes. There were no Southern Illinois University students posting blackface selfies to social media after Trump's win.
A Nazi flag that went up over a home in San Francisco Wednesday wasn't a show of support for anti-Jewish sentiment but "a comment on our new president-elect," according to the anti-Trump resident who put it up. "I am hoping people get that this is a political statement, and that I'm not a Nazi supporter."
Other anti-Semitic imagery—such as "Sieg Heil 2016" spray-painted on an abandoned store front in Philadelphia—may have been legit expressions of bigotry or may have been similar attempts at commentary on Trump's election; it's unclear because no one is taking credit for them. The bulk of racist graffiti incidents appear to have happened around middle- and high-schools, which doesn't make their messages any less hurtful, I'm sure, but does suggest a phenomenon driven by mean and immature kids rather than rogue bands of serious neo-Nazis.
And while all sorts of horrible incidents are being reported on Twitter and Facebook… well, anyone can say anything on Twitter and Facebook. The bulk of these stories are "friend of a friend" told me types. But if men were really going around pulling knives on Muslim women on public buses in Trump's name, there would at least be local or campus news reports of it. Same, too, for the alleged wave of transgender teen suicides which keep getting mentioned in media but for which no one can offer any evidence. (Update: more on the alleged suicides here.)
I point all of this out not to mock or attempt to diminish the fear or dismay any individuals feel right now but to put things in perspective. The "hate acts reported across the country" in the wake of Trump's victory seem mostly relegated to graffiti at a few schools and one carjacking which may or may not have had anything to do with racial or religious prejudice.
Less dramatic acts of racism—name calling, derogatory comments made in passing, etc.—do seem to be bubbling up more frequently this week, if the sheer number of such anecdotes shared online means anything. But while that's a shame in and of itself, it's also a world apart from the wave of "hate crimes" and violent attacks that many are conjuring up right now.
Pushers of this "rampant racist crimewave" in Trump's America story will dismiss posts like this one, and anyone who challenges their narrative, as naive, enabling of racists, or unconscionably non-empathetic to non-straight, white, Christian Americans. But I'm not the one trying to stoke false terror in vulnerable people or over-hype America's levels of hate for pageviews and Twitter faves.
Update, November 12: Two more tales of race-based and Trump-inspired harassment have begun to unravel…
In one of the widely-shared stories, a black woman claimed that four white men had threatened her while she was pumping gas at a Smyrna, Delaware, gas station Wednesday. After talking about things would change now that Trump was president, one of the men allegedly approached her and asked, "How scared are you, black bitch?" before saying "I should kill you right now. You're a waste of air." Another of the men allegedly flashed a gun and said, "You're lucky there's witnesses or else I'd shoot you right here."
The woman, Ashley Boyer, posted about this awful incident on Facebook in an update that was since deleted; on Thursday, she followed up by noting that "charges were filed, fugitives were caught." But when PhillyVoice contacted Smyrna police Thursday, the department said no report about such an incident had been filed and no one had contacted them about anything similar. So PhillyVoice reached out to Delaware State Police… who reported that no neighboring police agencies had received any such reports either, and there was no record of any local 911 calls about such an incident. "There is no record of this occurring in Smyrna, if at all," said Corporal Brian Donner of the Delaware State Police.
The second alleged incident, out of Minnesota, involved an Asian college student named Kathy Mirah Tu who said she was accosted by a white man while crossing a bridge on the University of Minnesota-Twin Cities campus. "I was stop in my tracked by a white male, who yelled at me to 'Go back to Asia,'" Tu posted to Facebook, in an update that had received more than 17,000 shares as of Thursday evening. "I pretended to not hear any thing and continue on walking since I didn't want to create conflict. Shortly after that moment, I was stopped by that same man who told me 'Don't you know it's disrespectful to walk away from someone when they are talking to you?" After that, the man grabbed Tu's wrist and threatened to hit her so she punched him, according to her post. "His friends who were watching the entire situation go down saw that I was going to the win fight and came over to his rescue and accused me of assaulting him and called the police."
According to Tu, the police arrived and handcuffed her but eventually let her off with a warning. Yet neither the campus police nor the Minneapolis Police Department have any record of the incident Tu describes. "We heard complaint from student related 2 Wash bridge yestdy, UMPD didnt respond to bridge or make an arrest," the University of Minnesota Police Department tweeted Thursday, also asking Tu or anyone who did know about the alleged incident to come forward. Here was the response from the city police:
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History repeats itself. See the British exit.
if by that you mean, “an entirely fictitious ‘racist backlash’ created out of thin air by the media“, you are correct.
the core piece of data in the hysterical stories of the “racist backlash” in the UK was a website the police had set up to allow reporting of “Online Harassment”.
The police said “reports of harassment had grown 57% since brexit”
The fact that the website had only been in existence for 2 months, and was unknown to most of the public before the brexit, was not highlighted. Nor was the fact that this stat only referenced ‘unverified online compliants’, and not the few incidents of actual person-to-person confrontations they used to illustrate the fake-trend.
This M.O. has become standard fare for the media any time the left loses a political battle = saturate the news with stories about the alleged racism of their opponents.
See = the Tea Party “spitting” incident that never happened, but which generated 100s of editorials.
Thanks for doing that work.
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We should certainly take steps to suppress the scourge of false “news” reporting aimed at casting aspersions on our future president. I have been saying for some time now that after the inauguration, the new administration will do what needs to be done to enact the will of the people and curtail, with whatever means necessary, some of the “protected speech” fouling the air of our great cities and our electronic lines. Surely no one here would dare to defend the outrageous “First Amendment dissent” of a single, isolated judge in America’s leading criminal Troll and “satire” case? See the documentation at:
http://raphaelgolbtrial.wordpress.com/
That documentation points precisely towards the direction our nation must take to become great again; not even the lib-tard New York Times would dispute the enormous value of the efforts of Manhattan prosecutors in this regard.
This sort of fraud in the media is just one of many reasons to form a new HUAC to go after these subversives.
Yes indeed, and too often the activities of the HUAC have been sneered at and disparaged in unsavory media reports and college textbooks. It is well known in legal circles that McCarthyism set a model for techniques still used by leading prosecutors around the country ? especially in New York, as the above-linked case so nicely illustrates. Furthermore, McCarthyism was also in fact later vindicated, which is exactly why students in some areas of our great nation are required to describe, in their basic writing assignments, how the release of the Venona Papers confirmed suspicions of communist infiltration into our government.
I don’t think it’s a myth that “hate crimes” increase after proggies lose. It’s just that they’re the perpetrators.
If you fabricate crimes, finger your political enemies as the perpetrators, and use the power of the media to disseminate the lie to create panic and sow discontent in society, you belong in jail. You own all of the violence and the riots that result. Inciting violence is a crime. Dividing society by stoking fears and inventing prejudices to score political points is deeply immoral.
I’m sick to death of this anti-white and anti-male rhetoric. White people are not guilty of the crimes of their ancestors. Fuck everything about those people.
+1
it’s b.s. that people don’t get prosecuted for this crap.
Many white (& black & Hispanic and even a few Asian) ‘male oppressors’ are sitting jail for acts that are much less harmful to society.
Projection, its what progressives do!!
Progjection?
“White people are not guilty of the crimes of their ancestors.”
Most of our ancestors (like mine) were European peasants or even serfs (again, mine included) who came to this country in the 19th or 20th century and never even lived in a place where slavery was legal; mostly they worked in factories in urban centers. Many of them did however (again, like at least one of my ancestors) get conscripted into the union army during the civil war. Even if one buys into hereditary guilt, most white people are still entirely innocent.
I agree though. A solid half of these publicized hate crimes that pop up on the yahoo or msn main news page turn out to be hoaxes. And yet leftists still go around saying ‘why would anyone fake such a thing.’
Whites get no credit for ending slavery.
Even considering 650,000 people died during the Civil War. I guess that’s not enough blood for them.
I think it’s a little much to expect credit for ending a horror we created and were a part of for centuries. I’m not saying we weren’t a huge part of the solution, just that we shouldn’t expect a lot of credit for it. Add to that the end of slavery was followed by another hundred years of racist laws and oppression. When was the last time you stopped to thank your abuser for not hitting you anymore?
ending a horror we created
Just out of morbid curiosity, who’s “we”? Slavery most certainly is neither an invention of whites nor Americans.
When was the last time you stopped to thank your abuser for not hitting you anymore?
If you are talking abusers such as agents of the United States Government, whose actions are and were perpetrated with full color of the law, the kinds of people who spend time on this website to add to the conversation have been fighting them from the beginning.
Slavery was a common practice throughout human history. After western caucasians abandoned it, the rest of the world kept buying and keeping slaves until forced to stop, amd even now there sre clear indications that the practice would make a huge comeback if not for Western interferance.
So, please,take your “horror we created” and put it on the shelf with all the other Leftist fantasies. Maybe right next to the Bush=Hitler notion, that somehow got zero people strung up with piano wire.
You mean ending slavery in the US? It’s still common in Africa, Asia and the Middle East. Haiti is a hotbed of slavery right now.
Mine weren’t peasants. Mine were wealthy opportunists (Jamestown) and religious nutters (Mayflower).
I have a lot of religious nutters in my family tree
My ancestors were being starved and massacred in places like Ireland and eastern Europe. Some ended up in Lincoln’s army and the survivors got 50 acres of un-tillable sand in god forsaken (at the time) northern Michigan. If I was born with “privilege” it’s not because I’m white. It’s because my grandparents, against all odds, left a legacy of hard work, blood, sweat and tears so I wouldn’t have to starve or die in a gulag, if I were born at all. When I’m reduced to a privileged, racist, white oppressor for the purpose of buying votes from a bunch of coddled crybabies, they demean generations who came before who created the wealth they enjoy. I can not even express my contempt for these evil people.
+1 My ancestors likewise escaped the potato blight famine in Ireland. The legacy they passed to me? Yeah, they DID build that.
EES-
Same here.
Seems they want to discriminate against people based on their sex and race. It’s too bad they haven’t lived in a country where the government does discriminate, is corrupt, and one has little freedom. People who’ve escaped such countries love freedom, even more than Americans who don’t know what they have, and how it made people happy and prosperous.
And most important, they should know that if they support government enforced discrimination, it can be used against them. While if government can’t discriminate, then that freedom brings lack of worry government will discriminate against you.
RAZORS IN THE APPLES! CLOWNS ON A RAMPAGE.
The Age of Reason it ain’t.
Hey, I forgot about the clowns! Did half of the US population get murdered by psycho clowns Halloween night? Is that why Hilary lost?
This election is a total sham and a travesty.
We are not a democracy! The electoral college
is a disaster for a democracy. More votes
votes equals a loss…revolution. We can’t
let this happen. We should march on Washington
and stop this travesty. Our nation is totally
divided!
Are you the dbruce from Miata.net? Fucking moron.
regardless of who he is the mechanics of the US electoral system are broken & demand reform… while I am not in favor of preventing canpaign contributions or political speech, the electoral process in particular serves no purpose at the juncture other than preventing the overall will of the electorate based on vote distribution. its stated purpose as a bulwark against a populist anticonstitutional president is meaningless in the current system where delegates refuse to vote based on their own conscience. there are many other problems – winner take all, primaries, etc – but the electoral college is the least popular & the most ready to go. also Ive been bitching about the voting process for many years … my views here have nothing to do with this elections result
+1
No Electoral College at this point would me that the North East Coast and West Coast would decide everything that happens in this country.
I think there are problems with our electoral procedures also and used to think the worst part was the electoral college, paying a little closer attention and I’m not so sure.
That would be a feature, not a bug. All the proggies understand that perfectly. Best to be prepared to destroy them before they do the same to us, as they will likely force that choice sooner than later. Their actions over the last week should make that obvious.
Bargaining with progressives is like trying to reason with a Terminator.
Please- march on Washington. We’ll be waiting for you.
You are correct, moron. We are NOT a democracy – we are a Constitutional Republic. And thank God we are – otherwise we would have mob rule; a mob made up of ENTITLED WUSSY MORONS. The electoral college is very dangerous to democracy – exactly why the founding fathers established it. And yes, the nation is divided: between people who understand how our government actually works and the values and opportunities that created the greatest country on earth and want to preserve them; and idiots like you. Don’t like it? Move to Canada.
Many towns in NH have true democracy. If you’ve ever had to sit through a town meeting there (hint- you can judge the length of the meeting before it starts by the size of the knitting projects the women bring) you’ll realize that true democracy is a pain and often leads to absolutely nothing being done. Which is good thing if you’re a libertarian, I guess, but you still have to sit through the meeting.
“We are not a democracy!”
Someone obviously sleeping in 9th grade civics class.
No, dbruce, we are not a democracy. We are a constitutional republic. Gee whiz. Get a clue.
He wouldn’t even know which street corner to stand kn to GET a clue.
See Morton Downey Jr.
Since you raise Brexit, I reassured a panicky friend in Norway, pointing to the 4-to-1 odds against Brexit passing, and the next day it PASSED. Brexit didn’t bother me at all, just their math. Then recently I pointed to exactly the same Paddypower odds against Trump winning, and blam! The vote counters claim he did win. Everyone knows pollsters are lying barkers for entrenched soft machines. But what is the world coming to if we can no longer trust bookies?
Bookies don’t lie about odds, they just balance the bets.
Why would someone from Norway care about Brexit? They aren’t in the EU.
Trump really got at least 60% of the popular vote anyway. The differences are votes by illegals, misc. invalid votes, crooked voting machines, and the skewing of valid votes via our propagandized media.
But I’m not the one trying to stoke false terror in vulnerable people or over-hype America’s levels of hate in order to get clicks.
You were glaring at Shikha while you typed that, weren’t you.
Do they all laugh at shikkha around the office over there?
Dammit, pipped to the post!
Whoever schedules the publishing of these thing (KMW?) deserves an extra peyote.
But, but, there has been no crime wave only because the Trumpkins have been too busy larfing at the proggies and lapping up the ham flavored tears. After they tire of that, lock up your cats, ladies, pussies will be grabbed!
*Minorities, women, and children will be hardest hit, of course.
And gays.
There has a been a crime wave…all the “peaceful protesters” rioting in the streets and assaulting those who voted for Trump.
Fortunately, Obama and Clinton are vociferously condemning the violence. (SoS – Sarcasm on Steroids).
M? coworkers are shitting their pants over the upcoming nuclear wars and streets filled with the kkk murdering minorities.
I am on day 3 of full time laughter.
My coworkers finally stopped ostracizing me this morning. It’s funny.
They are plotting something. Keep your coffee where you can see it at all times!
I already do. All my thermoses have locks, like in the movie Conspiracy Theory.
Great! Put RFID chip on your stapler and you’ll be fine.
Is it a red Swingline by chance?
Does it have to match the one in your jockeys?
Asking for a friend.
I am continually told by progtards that they are better armed and trained to fight than conservatives. Can’t WAIT to see how that turns out when they pull some shit.
They probably are starting to think they should be friends with the gun owner who doesn’t like agents of the State.
“They probably are starting to think they should be friends with the gun owner who doesn’t like agents of the State.”
It’s cute how you think Proggies learn.
My coworkers know nothing of my views. And that’s the way I’ll keep it.
Oh they know. If you’re not running around screaming about trumpageddon then they know you’re not one of them.
http://kencrooker.com/wp-conte…..tchers.jpg
Remember when Romney lost?
All those who voted for Obama had to keep their vote under wraps fearing backlash from Romney supporters. Remember all the Romney supporters rioting the streets?
No. I don’t remember that either.
I work with a card carrying commie. We’re the only ones who seem to be okay with everything and I find that a little disconcerting but she has promised me a seat of the People’s Committee for Retirement when the Revolution is over so there’s that.
That’s funny. I have an older co-worker (61 or 62) — a staunch liberal — who was saying this morning that the hysteria about Trump reminds him very much of when Reagan beat Carter in 1980. There was a collective, “OMG! A crazy, violent cowboy has been elected and he is guaranteed to start WW III within months of taking office!”
He’s correct, of course, about how people get their panties in a twist because they believe the silly stuff they’ve heard, and then reality sets in later.
I just wish more lefties don’t realize this and calm the fuck down — especially when Trump has already backed down a bunch of things he professed during the campaign. For example, today’s he’s saying he intends to “protect LGBTQ people.”
But I suppose the progs figure that must be him laying some kind of trap. (“I’ll get ’em to relax their guard, start acting gay and marching in some parade, and then we’ll send the National Guard to clobber ’em. They won’t know what hit them!” — they probably imagine is what he’s thinking.)
WAS? I don’t think that leopard has changed his spots. He is a vile opportunist, saw an opening in the GOP and ran with it. But with that said, I will now contradict myself and say I don’t believe he is a Democrat either. Whomever he can use and exploit to get what he wants, that’s what party he is in. A party of one.
Trump basically punked the GOP and the leftists are pissed about it because he did it himself, bypassing the collective.
I’ll say it again – the definition of a progressive is someone who hates productivity and self-reliance.
“He is the most LGBTQ friendly “Republican” in history.”
Probably the most LGBTQ friendly president of either party.
This is the guy who sexually assaulted Giuliani in drag. He is so far past giving a damn about who fucks who.
For example, today’s he’s saying he intends to “protect LGBTQ people.”
Absolute proof of his bigotry against the gay community. A true open minded gay ally would say the gays are equal to the rest of us and don’t need any special protection or favor because they are human beings who can take care of themselves just like the rest of us. Anything else is pure homophobia.
Lachowsky, I hear your scorn and sarcasm, but it is precisely that certain groups of marginalized people DO need protection so that they CAN be treated like the rest of us. Whether that’s homeless kids who need all their meals at school, or kids that are being bullied so they can’t think straight and get an education. People need help if they are being oppressed. Your implied argument that everyone gets the same and then we are all equal ignores the reality of inequality and malice people face on a daily basis. Whether that inequality is opportunity, personal safety, education, food, shelter, lack of harassment, etc., people need help.
Yet everyone is ok with marginalizing fat ugly people. Want to fuck other guys in the asshole? You’re a progtard darling. Fatty uggo? Get in the fucking cattle car!
Every bit of all of it is bullshit.
It’s not like the government has an official list of registered homosexual couples.
#thankyoukimdavis
Wait, the minorities are going to be murdering the kkk? Isn’t that what the pants-shitters want?
The English language is fun.
Same here. I had a guy ask me what I’m a gonna tell my daughter.
I replied, ‘are you retarded?’
Never mind we’re in fucking Canada.
God, the idiots among us.
I love how people say their children are afraid of Trump as if it’s some child’s intuition as opposed to the parent training them to no like Trump.
I’m going to use my secret billions to have the Japanese build me Mecha-Trump. Which will be yuuuge (300 feet tall). Then I will use it to rampage on progtard cities.
(Note to feds monitoring this site: The preceding was hyperbolic fantasy. I do not have secret billions, nor access to Mecha-Trump technology)
I’m still hearing moronic crap about Three Mile Island! When the Japanese earthquake hit, West Coast papers shrieked RADIATION! The numbers at the fence were lower than the dose a lying reporter gets from cosmic rays while flying across the Pacific to shriek in horror at damaged reactors endangering no one. But yesterday, screeching about the Global Warming Rotisserie Broiler fantasy was so muted you could hear a food stamp drop. Tony Heller has been testifying before the Australian Parliament on falsification of temperature data, and the silence is deafening.
Unless the dosage of cosmic rays was enough to turn Ben Grimm into the Thing it is not worth mentioning.
I live in Northern California and my co-workers are incensed that their Blue State taxes support Red State ingrates. “We support those states with our taxes & they go & elect non-progressive Republicans! Let alone Trump! We’re so different, we need to permanently separate from the rest of those yokels/right-wing ingrates/illiberal conservative fascists”!
So they’re pushing a California secession drive called @YesCalifornia! These progressives want to break off from the US, create their own Lefty, equitable, kind, gun-free country with no dirty oil, a living wage, no GMOs, health care for all, and no plastic bags but plenty of solar panels & windmills.
Now, upon hearing their plans, I grinned and did my best Meg Ryan imitation, pounding my desktop and screaming “Yes, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES!!”
Walling off California – ideal. We get our libertarian island – 49 libertarian islands!
If only that would happen. Unfortunately, the idiot proggies in OR and WA are also talking of seceding from the union. (I just heard one gleefully explain how great it would be to have a separate country of CA, OR & WA.) I love the beauty up here in the PNW but these loco, liberal nutbags are making me consider moving.
I’m hoping the people most directly threatened by Trump’s election are the ones sucking on government teat. We’ll see.
I have already had the white privilege card played on me for expressing skepticism about the alleged wave of hate crimes unleashed by Trump’s election.
Or wait, I had a friend who told me about someone he knew on Twitter who had the white privilege card played on him for expressing skepticism about the alleged wave of hate crimes unleashed by Trump’s election.
There, now it’s iron-clad believable.
Izzat the new trump card?
No, it’s the Trump card. You know like a Calorie is a thousand calories.
You play the Trump card, you don’t just win that trick you win the whole fucking game.
Again, there has been a wave of hate crimes since the elections – committed by the leftists.
That the people playing that card on you are the same ones who squealed the loudest about Trump’s comment about Muslims “dancing in the streets” on 9/11 makes me dearly wish that there was some sort of “just look at yourself” vaccine we could start dispensing across America.
With each idiotic statement and/or act, my privilege grows more powerful than you can possibly imagine.
Mein Gott! Soon you’ll be a privilege deity!
Now, I am become Shikha, the God of Privilege.
We’re not worthy! We’re not worthy!
I give unto you this great boon: The privilege of having people kneel before you at AA baseball games.
For Pro’Libb!
*hurls self at Femkonnen troops*
Nice…
Again. Same here. Was told I can’t possibly get it because white privilege.
Arkham isn’t big enough.
I thought the international coverage of a twitter allegation via someone’s friend’s sister was pretty funny.
Simone: Um, he’s sick. My best friend’s sister’s boyfriend’s brother’s girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who’s going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it’s pretty serious.
Thank you Simone.
I had a (young) coworker at a previous job with a very manageable pre-existing medical condition. It always seemed to act up on Mondays and days when we didn’t have shit to do. He was actually good at the job, just young and didn’t give a fuck. Me and a co-worker chipped in and bought a “Save Ferris” t-shirt for him.
Isn’t she the one making 84 bucks an hour working on the Internet who bought the new Audi and made 42,000 dollars last month working a few hours a week?
Projection is a thing isn’t it?
Yeah, most of the (actual, indisputable) violence I’ve heard about has been committed by people who loudly proclaim how much they hate Trump. (see: Portland)
Why riot in Portland, though? Way to piss of your own fucking people.
Because people in Bend, Redmond (OR), or Hood River have guns?
They might have guns in Hood River, but nothing to shoot them with. To do that, they’d have to put down the spliff or bong, and the snowboard or kiteboard they’re carrying in the other hand. Not going to happen.
I’m sure the ultra-progs in Eugene are proud though…
Pfft. The aging boomer hippie trash who run that city are likely wiping tears of pride from their eyes to see dope-addled teenage runaways on the street burning flags and throwing empty microbrew bottles at cops. More time to sit in their Volvos on the 84 and listen to KBOO before they have to clock into work at the white-collar dollar factory.
It really is a shame that such a beautiful place can be wasted on such horrible people.
For some reason, they do tend to get lash and backlash backwards.
It’s tied into the fascist narrative. They want their Kristallnacht so they can justify their own rhetoric about Trump being a fascist. If Trump ends up elected, and there’s no sudden minority murders and gang rapes, suddenly they’re the ones who start to seem hyperbolic and insane. God forbid, if Trump ends up just a mediocre President instead of Rapist Hitler 2.0 these people will be completely delegitimized.
(Also OT but ever since I heard ENB on the podcast yesterday I can’t help but mentally read her articles in her My-Little-Pony in a coalmine voice)
Come on, get real.
If Trump doesn’t build a wall, ban Muslims, or mass deport all “wets” then he will have fulfilled none of his campaign promises.
So, like closing Guantanamo and getting out of Iraq? And not raising taxes on anyone making under $250k? Or… well, I can list a hundred more and you’ll still be mendaciously stupid.
Remember when Bush preached a humble foreign policy with less intervention while on the campaign trail?
Buttplug must truly love Bush for his sound foreign policy analysis.
If Palin’s Buttplug didn’t want to pay his bet, maybe he shouldn’t have promised to in the first place?
He wasn’t making those promises to fulfill them. He was making them to get elected.
Oh it’s out there! Racist, hurtful, commentary abound for real. Heck I just read this article by Shikha Dalmia at Reason.com that tossed an entire racial group under the bus for being the asshole destroyers of the morality and compassion.
the facts say their is no trump supported violence but then maybe? why do you always have to throw in a caveat as if their violence is his fault. well why aren’t we then blaming all the other violence against Trump supporters as the fault of Obama and Hillary and even Soros who is a know backer of most of these violent protesters
I know the answer they give is that their violence is Trumps fault even though they are the paid brownshirt goons and lackeys of Soros and etal
Thank you ENB. I have unfortunately encountered a fee people in my neighborhood who were genuinely fearful for their safety. It’s pathetic and yet, heartbreaking. Hopefully more articles like this will start to bring sanity back.
From a repost on the DerpBook feed of one of my girlfriend’s friends:
“If you’re LGBT and worried, please remember you’ve got a whole army of us at your back and we’re not going anywhere.”
Ummmm…yeah. Because Donald Trump has such a yuge record as anti-gay. I mean, it’s not like he gave a gay guy a prime time speaking slot at the GOP convention or one of his biggest troll-fans is a gay guy who recently conducted “The Dangerous Faggot Tour”.
I heard Trump sometimes eats at Chick fil-A. He’s a monster.
Hah. Both of my Trump-fearing kids love Chik-fil-a, including the Tumblr’ed She-spawn.
That’s because Chik-fil-a is fucking delicious.
I ate at Chik-fil-a once. They make damned good chicken sandwiches. Sandwiches that aren’t made out of free-dried chicken paste. Chicken sandwiches that actually taste like they have chicken in them. I’m just not into chicken sandwiches however.
I used to eat those sandwiches, but I prefer not to deal with enterprises that want the police to violate rather than protect individual rights. I am absolutely in favor of defensive weapons, abolishing the IRS, deregulating everything… but trading with girl-bulliers and prohibitionists is asking too much.
I’m still struggling to find anything anti-Semitic that he’s ever said. And I’m pretty good at sniffing that stuff out, what with my big Jew nose and all. So far, nothing; my Prog friends tell me that it’s all out there and I must be some kind of denier to not see it.
He disowned Ivanka for marrying a Son of Abraham, right? Right?
You’re literally like those (((German))) who didn’t leave in time because they thought Hitler would be OK.
/sarc
One must extrapolate the hate.
There is a huffpo article that aggregates his supposedly racist remarks. It’s mostly stuff about Mexicans and Muslims -not races- and some things a former employee said he said about black people. His antisemitic statements are him saying that he’s a negotiator just like all of the people he addressed at a Jewish gathering (said to.the group) and that they probably won’t support him because he can’t be bought.
Well, that’s as good as tossing me in the oven.
He’s gonna put y’all back to building pyramids.
It’s possible your girlfriends friend is just trying to walk some people off the ledge of their ridiculous hyperbole.
I myself said that I understood they were afraid and that I, as a libertarian, would support them as I always have.
Of course, I also broke down the raw vote numbers to subtly point out that half the damn country did not suddenly turn racist and misogynistic
I’m having trouble getting my wife. To see that Trump as president, doesn’t have the power she fears he does. As I posted before, we do get some bad seeds giving us trouble. The “Go Home” followed by “Make america great again” assholes. Thankfully it’s never escalated beyonds words. Also, Alhamdullah for Oregon’s open carry law. Nice to have a very last resort option. Those incidents are usually the same pricks and only a few here. I have more trouble with liberals then the few bigots.
People get tired of being afraid after a while. Especially when there’s nothing to be afraid of.
“…I point all of this out not to mock or attempt to diminish the fear or dismay any individuals feel right now…”
Why not? Quite a few deserve mocking.
And there is a ‘wave of violence’. From whiny hag-supporters:
“Portland police tweeted that the protest was considered a riot “due to extensive criminal and dangerous behavior.”
http://www.sfgate.com/news/tex…..605630.php
Prog hate crimes against property don’t count…
Another night of nationwide protests against Donald Trump’s election came to a head in Portland, where thousands marched and some smashed store windows, lit firecrackers and sparked a dumpster blaze. Police termed the protest a riot and used “less lethal munitions” to help clear the streets.
Yeah, cause it krystalnacht out there with store windows being smashed in by, ummm Trump supporters???!!!
Perhaps the people acting like the fucking Nazis did are the ones who are really fucking Nazis.
I suppose one way you could look at this election is “what if Hitler had lost the election for Presidency for Germany back in 1933”.
If you go on right wing sites, you see anecdotes about Trump supporters being attacked.
If you go on left wing sites, you see anecdotes about muslims being attacked.
With confirmation bias, no one ever has to be wrong about anything.
I knew something like that was going to happen. And I was right!
“If you go on right wing sites, you see anecdotes about Trump supporters being attacked.
If you go on left wing sites, you see anecdotes about muslims being attacked.”
Except there’s literally hours of footage of Trump protestors smashing and burning things and at least one video of a Trump voter violently attacked.
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/20…..-attacked/
That’s nothing. Take a look at this abuse.
Mother Punishes Son For Supporting Donald Trump In Mock Election At School
I’d rather take the beating in your video than see this done to the kid.
Truely a WTF moment
For decades, the ProgLeft has informed white people that white people were irredeemable bigots. In 2016, white people decided to believe it.
*Really, white people decided that what ProgLeft shamers thought of them was less important than figuring out how they were going to pay for their health insurance.
Pretty much this. Progs are trying to spark a race war to avoid dealing with their shit policies. It’s easier to pretend the election reflects racist sympathies rather than the prosaic rejection of Obama’s market meddling. Because they are delusional and incapable of grounding their worldview in anything other than crass identity politics.
A bunch of unwashed college kids versus some methed-up hillbillies in widely scattered trailer parks. Lamest. Race War. Ever.
Unwashed college kids steadily regressing to toddlers. Lamest. Generation. Ever.
Or, OWS vs The TEA Party.
Actually our trailer parks are very strategically located for just such an occasion.
#oregontrailerparkcard
Leftists want violence. However, we are still a civilized country, so they also need a reason to justify it.
Gotta be quick; posting this from a Trump prison camp.. You’re dead wrong, ENB. The hyperbole was true! They found out I voted for Gary Johnson and frogmarched me down here. I have to stop and say the Pledge of Allegiance every 5 minutes or they beat me with a six inch section of a garden hose. My feet hurt- they took my shoes; said they were made in China and therefore I’m a globalist criminal. Bernie’s in here too, but he agreed with guards and spit on me. One more slip up and they’re deporting me to Mexico, and if I can’t get Enrique Nieto to pay for the plane ticket, I’ll have to walk. WARN YOUR FRIENDS BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE– ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE ANY INJUN BLOOD IN YOU. He HATES Cherokees!
Ahhh! They’re coming back! I have to go– if you never see me again, burn all my stuff- if HE finds out you gave it charity, you’ll be next. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG
funny
That last bit there, mhmmmm, rich as a cream duck sauce.
AVENGE ME! AVENGE MEEEeeeeeeeee….
This one time at Trump Camp…
Did you stick a musical instrument somewhere or grab some of it?
You should have gone with a belt made from hemp, instead of rubber hose…we all know that proggies hate water more than cats…it involves hygiene…
Good article.
He’s probably stupid. Pirates didn’t fly Jolly Roger then switch to the British flag when someone approached.
Bullshit. Since Tuesday, I have witnessed six rapes, four lynchings, and at least a dozen cross-burnings. All were met with cheers from rednecks in trucker hats.
In fact, on my way to the Metro this morning, I saw someone deport a Mexican for no reason, and no one said a thing. Not. One. Thing.
As long as Barry’s still at the helm, I’ll believe that last part at least
God dammit.
I WAS RAPED BY A MAN IN A TRUMP MASK!
On twitter, I’ve seen a lot of stories about Philippinos being told by White men to go back to China.
They also told Hispanics to finally pick one name for their damn country, Spain or Portugal.
Filipinas, on the other hand….rrrrrrrowrrr!
Maybe the aforementioned White men were making an astute political joke about President Duterte’s warming up to China? The kind of joke you’d see in the New Yorker.
A Nazi flag that went up over a home in San Francisco Wednesday wasn’t a show of support for anti-Jewish sentiment but “a comment on our new president-elect,” according to the anti-Trump resident who put it up. “I am hoping people get that this is a political statement, and that I’m not a Nazi supporter.”
Would this be considered a false-flag attack?
In case Swiss doesn’t see your, post allow me:
*narrows gaze*
Whatever the motivation it sounds like a really smart thing to do.
“Pushers of this “rampant racist crimewave” story will dismiss posts like this one, and anyone who challenges their narrative, as naive, enabling of racists, or unconscionably non-empathetic to non-straight, white, Christian Americans. But I’m not the one trying to stoke false terror in vulnerable people or over-hype America’s levels of hate in order to get clicks.”
Does anyone notice that these self-righteous defenders actually attack, and that at a large scale? In extreme words, these benevolent beings, attack the non-believers and oppressors. What are the reactions? We tell them that they don’t need to defend, because there are no attacks. We don’t tell them that they are wrong to attack.
A Nazi flag that went up over a home in San Francisco Wednesday wasn’t a show of support for anti-Jewish sentiment but “a comment on our new president-elect,” according to the anti-Trump resident who put it up. “I am hoping people get that this is a political statement, and that I’m not a Nazi supporter.”
This seems shortsighted.
Thanks, for the article, ENB. I’ve been waiting for one like this. I can’t be expected to track the veracity of all of these individual stories myself and you can be sure the stories are aggregated and sent out speedily and with glee.
So it’s like the “rising tide of gun violence” we keep hearing about, and the “blood in the streets” and “fender-benders into firefights” that inevitably follow relaxed gun laws, and the “cratering stock market” reports.
NEWS AT 10!!
I’ve been on FB since the election very diplomatically saying that there was no good reason to vote for HRC and that Democrats need to run candidates that people don’t think are full of shit. You should read the hate mail. It’s almost as bad as what I get here.
Try linking this, maybe it’ll make them less angry at you?
I think that analysis is right on. I have no problem pointing out Trump’s sexual deviancy, but Clinton didn’t articulate a reason why White people should vote for her. She got creamed by Trump amongst White people with no college education. Why should they have voted for her? ? ?
Did she articulate a reason why ANYBODY should vote for her? Besides FIRST FEMALIEL PRSIEIDIENT, i mean.
And “I’m Not Trump.”
Well she did win a majority of the vote so let’s not completely dismiss her charms.
47.7% (at last count) ain’t no majority
It’s more than 47.5%, so obviously a mandate from the people and a reason to kill the electoral college.
+1 blue wall
Ok… Ok… Plurality. Jesus Christ. TRUMP won less, but you guys are running around like he’s won some great mandate and isn’t the molesting piece of shit that he is.
Presidents don’t get “mandates”. They get elected. The office and its duties don’t change with the margin of victory.
Clinton “won” the popular vote but came shy of winning the actual election by a margin of multiple states. She has no more command of the majority opinion than Trump does.
“but you guys are running around like he’s won some great mandate”
That is just delusional.
“but you guys are running around like he’s won some great mandate”
That is just delusional.
The mandate is whatever they say it is. If it’s 30% then it’s a fucken mandate. Got it?
Math is hard.
That’s a large part of analysis in the video.
He’s not 100% right, he way overplays the election itself while ignoring a simple fact of people staying home, and the way he talks you’d think it was Reagan vs Mondale. But it’s far more clear-sighted, honest and critical than anything I’ve seen from other lefties.
His best point is near the start. “What was her slogan? I’m with HER?! Even Trump can see how horrible this is and say…Um, no. I’m with YOU, the American people.”
Glen Greenwald wrote a decent article on it yesterday, criticizing the DNC for picking HIllary. He had a lot of anti-‘neoliberalism’ stuff in it which isn’t my cup of tea, but probably right up AmSoc’s alle.
Link
Your.
CLINTON EMAILS
Tears.
CLINTON EMAILS
Delicious.
CLINTON EMAILS
Shrugs. I didn’t vote for her. I didn’t because I don’t like her warmongering and her support of 3 Strikes Laws and the arrogance of the DNC.
Unlike you, I didn’t vote for Trumpbecause I think he’s a two week old garbage can full of diapers and fish guts other set of problems.
We’ll see… you know. It’ll be curious to see how many people around here have any set of principles and how many people are totally full of right-wing shit. My guess is it’s the latter but who knows.
Well maybe if you’re lucky he’ll take your advice and start putting the Muslims in labour camps like you want.
Really? american socialist, you want me and my daughters in labour camps?
It should be said as well. I don’t need nor want you socialist and liberals sticking up for me. Most of the shit I deal with in this country is from you people. Not the republicans, well maybe the neocons, but neoccons are babies only a mother would love.
I’m scheduling two hours of this afternoon to going around posting “BENGHAZI!” on every single lefty comment forum on the internet.
They should still find that the height of wit, right?
+4 laughing ghosts.
At this point, what does it matter?
I don’t post on Facebook. I just read it. It’s mostly family, but I’m very glad I have sane relatives.
This shit is actually dangerous. There are people going around saying a bunch of trans kids killed themselves. Even if it’s not true, the entire notion of Trump being anti-trans is insane. he is against the bathroom bill laws and let Caitlyn Jenner use the women’s room. Sure, Pence is an idiot, but Trump is more LGBT friendly than Obama was in 2008.
I have friends and family in Europe. Except for the ones who have spent time in the USA and know better, they’re all buying into the lies and crap they see. It’s a real problem this perception thing.
Very dangerous.
He turned me into a newt!
I placated Trump with. . .a shrubbery!
Who are you, who is so wise of these things?
Oh, what sad times we live in where passing Republicans can go around saying “nih!” to trans women and minorities!
Let’s not go on about ‘hoo killed ‘hoo.
Help, I’m being oppressed. Come and see the violence inherent in the system!
SAXON VIOLENCE!
WHAAAT… is the color of your skin?????
Brown.
No wait whiiiiiiiiiargh!
That depends. On my arms it’s kind of tan. My neck is a little on the red side. My ass, on the other hand, is as white as newly-fallen snow, although newly-fallen snow isn’t covered with hair.
I heard there was rioting in the streets though. Surely those were the newly unleashed Trump supporters indulging in all their racist power fantasies.
The Trumpers are going absolutely how wild out there! Be careful, my token marginalized friends!
http://www.chicagotribune.com/…..story.html
Errr…nevermind.
But if men were really going around pulling knives on Muslim women on public buses in Trump’s name, there would at least be local or campus news reports of it.
Duh, the local news is part of the vast right wing conspiracy and Muslim women are too afraid to share their stories. This is why we needed Hillary, so she could keep the media objective by sending them unbiased talking points and banning biased speech.
Look, this isn’t Canada. Here, it’s the losers who go nuts and wreck stuff.
Mike M isn’t the only deplorable Bitter Clinger?
I haven’t posted in a while as I’ve been busy with school but I can confirm that there are many salty leftist tears flowing through campus and they are delicious.
Buddy of mine called, haven’t seen this guy for years, he said the craziest thing just happened. He was walking his sister’s, girlfriend’s, sister and her dog around the park (the sister’s girlfriend’s sister is part Comanche) and these white guys with a southern drawl started talking loudly with animated gestures. There was no need to stop and listen to the assuredly hateful words and as the park was no longer safe they decided to walk back to his sister’s girlfriends sister’s house.
On the way back he says that passed a dark alley where, I shit you not, a full on Klan army was laying in wait. Easily two dozen men in white hoods. They leapt out and my friend says he fought off at least 6 of them before he was overwhelmed, last image he saw before consciousness faded was his sister’s girlfriends sister being drug of wailing by the Klansmen. SWEAR TO GOD, he says he just posted the story to FB too. #Trump’s America
I live in Dogdick, Ga and our Klansmen are mostly just pathetic Rush Limbaugh fans sitting around doing nothing but collecting SSDI.
So, on the one hand, you look down on people who collect SSDI.
On the other hand, you praise the President who ballooned its rolls.
Impressive double-think.
No, he just thinks SSDI is only for minorities.
What’s really more important: whether it did happen, or whether it could?
*Applause
Was he Bruce Wayne pre-Bat-Man or post?
These details matter.
Let me get this straight: he was walking his sister’s girlfriend’s sister and her dog? Did he have a leash on both of them?
Oh, some dumbass on another thread was trying to argue that the long term decline in the LFP rate was Obama’s fault
I post this to refute:
http://tinyurl.com/jlkqzjx
That article also claims that Obama’s economic record is “quite strong.”
Cut UE in half, full recovery, low inflation, increased personal wealth by a record $20 trillion, 14 million private sector jobs created, supported free trade – it is far better than his GOP predecessor.
Yes, please ignore the mounds of regulations added, weak GDP growth, declining productivity, enormous expansion of the money supply, and massive asset bubble that the Fed refuses to deflate. Not to mention the growth in government expenditures and doubling of the national debt as well as increases in entitlement obligations.
Great economy.
See here for more.
Jesus Christ, shriek is dumber than I thought.
He actually claimed that the statement “The national debt has doubled since 2008” has been “debunked.”
The national debt has nearly doubled while the annual deficit has been cut in half.
The national debt is due to legacy programs and Bush new spending mostly due to useless wars.
Yes, the national debt has been run up for a long time.
But even with the deficit cut in half, it’s still half a trillion a year. It’s still massively high. The debt is still growing at a fast rate.
even with the deficit cut in half, it’s still half a trillion a year.
It should be noted that highest deficit in history until fiscal ’08 was 450 billion dollars after the Dems captured both houses of congress. But just use an unprecedented, record-shattering single-year 1.2 trillion dollar deficit as your baseline and hey-presto!
But just use an unprecedented, record-shattering single-year 1.2 trillion dollar deficit as your baseline and hey-presto!
Most of which is due to TARP, a program that Obama heavily supported.
As did McCain, wrecking his chances to win.
“But just use an unprecedented, record-shattering single-year 1.2 trillion dollar deficit as your baseline and hey-presto!”
Turd’s been using the same crap to show the ‘phenomenal’ growth of equities while Obo’s been screwing stuff up.
If turd couldn’t pick cherries, he’d starve. That pathetic piece of shit has never once argued in good faith.
BOOOSSSHHH!!!!!
If you look at the actual increase in the debt, then the deficit hasn’t really been cut at all. The nominal deficit is about $500 billion but yet the debt increases by $1 trillion per year.
It’s amazing that he was finally able to cut the deficit in half after the dems added the 800 billion stimulus to the baseline of the governments budget for at least the two years they controlled both chambers.
Fuck you’re stupid.
All fiction. You sound like Peter Schiff.
BUY YER GOLD! THE DOLLAR IS WORTHLESS!
You sound like an Alzheimer’s patient yelling at her cats. When was the last time you were right about anything? The end of kindergarten, when you finally realized that 1+1 actually does equal 2?
$600/oz!
That short should have cleared you enough to pay your bet.
If you’re smarter than Schiff, why aren’t you rich?
-jcr
Yeah, he did it all by lowering gas prices and causing the economy to finally begin to recover from the recession years after it should have (and after he’d taken office) by waving his magic wand.
I guess it would be a waste of time to explain to you the difference between “doing it” and “was there when it happened.”
The article repeats the claim:
“There are a few reasons why the LFPR has declined. First, the country is aging as baby boomers retire. An older country means a lower percent of the population will be in the labor force.”
Which is demonstrably false as BLS data indicates (kbolino linked to it earlier). 55+ LFPR is at a 30-yr high.
I didn’t say it was Obama’s fault.
I said LFPR was down, and the decline wasn’t explained by retirement. Those two claims are absolutely supported by the BLS data.
Of course, you think Obama single-handedly doubled the DJIA. If he controls the stock market in your fantasy world, then he controls the labor force, too.
NO!
When it is good he controls it, otherwise it was Bush!
Actually Obama did have a hand in the DJIA throught the Federal Reserve….QEI and QEII…those low interest rates hurt the middle class more than anything, while enriching the investor.
Wait, do you like Wall Street, or do you hate it with the same passion that Obama and Hillary do? Cause pointing to the DJIA being up is only an indication that Wall Street is doing well, not the economy as a whole.
Because all Americans own stocks in the stock market, silly.
Seeing that as being nothing but fantasy, however we have to then agree that because those nasty evil rich white republicans benefit most from it then obviously the economic theory of a trickle down economy must work because otherwise why be pointing to an economic market indicator that only reflects the earnings of the those evil nasty mega corporations and rich evil billionaires (like Trump)?
Please stop. You’re making too much sense AND interfering with the narrative.
Per Scott Adams, the best way to persuade someone is by using fear. This time the Democrats really outdid themselves. I know people who are seriously, genuinely afraid because they are immigrants or gay or whatever. They really do believe this stuff is going to happen to them. I really hope that wears off soon, but with so many people out there fanning the flames, I think think it’s going to be a while.
I don’t even understand the fearmongering being tossed about with respect to the LGBLT crowd. Trump’s only statements on those issues were generally positive. From what I recall, he doesn’t really care about TEH GAYZ and Caitlyn Jenner is allowed to shit wherever she wants in Trump Tower.
The leftist line now is to attack Pence’s record because they know Trump largely agrees with them on LGBT issues.
Pence is a giant fuck bag, but then VP is a toothless old whore powerwise.
Dare you defy the power of Biden?
If Trump makes it four years and wants another go, I demand Biden! I. Need. Those. Debates!!!
I’m not an American but am male and vaguely white – does the Penumbra of Supremacy extend to me so I can make such demands happen?
Sure, why not? Have a cookie.
Well you’re also Slavic, and therefore a secret Russian, and must hate gays and Muslims. Because the only cultural group we’re apparently able to demonize to an extremely stupid extent are the Russians.
Funniest part about the Russians….
Hillary’s “reset Button”
When Obama over a hot mic told then Russian President Mendev, he would have more flexibility after the election…when Putin had not even been elected.
I know your joshing. However, it always seemed during the Bush and Obama administrations. That the other players in the oval office, where the ones really pulling the strings.
Valerie Jarett/Dick Cheney
That’s the shame of this. Trump/Pence aren’t a great thing but Jesus, people are just plain nuts.
I don’t think Huggies can produce enough diapers fast enough to keep up with all the pant shitting.
Get house brands for daytime use. Save the premium brands for overnight when you want the children to sleep soundly.
The story seems to be that this secret army of violent bigots was suppressed before now because they knew society disapproves of them, but they’re taking Trump’s win as validation and that it’s now socially acceptable to harass/violently attack any non-straight, non-white, or non-male. I’m trying very hard to find a convincing way to explain to people telling me this that that makes no god damn sense and that a handful of completely unsourced screenshots of posts from Tumblr and Facebook can not be used to prove a massive jump in violent crime occurring in a span of less than 72 hours, but it’s falling on deaf ears so far.
This is why one should not receive all of his or her news from Rachel Maddow and the Twitter
Peter Thiel got a standing ovation after proclaiming his sexual orientation at the RNC, for fuck’s sake. There’s a photo I’ve seen of Trump holding up a rainbow flag.
-jcr
and here it is:
http://www.advocate.com/2016/1…..rado-rally
Yeah, I made a similar point yesterday: a lot of the real fear out there is in response to what people have said about Trump rather than what has said*
*Should not be taken as an endorsement of Trump or anything he’s said.
When I posted at 12:56 about twitter, I’m sayi,g that it is tweet after tweet after tweetof basically the same story, but with different persons (boyfriend to sister to cousin) and places (ice cream shop to gas station to roller derby).
I’m racist enough to be sceptical.
Peaceful, tolerant, pure Michigan.
But Michigan has always been a shit hole so this isn’t really surprising.
They learned it from you, UC Berkeley! *sobs, storms off*
Michigan is a shit hole. My adolescence years was growing up in Hazel Tuckey. Lots of N words because of the proximity to 8 mile. Also because of the large Chaldean population. Lots of Sand N$%!, camel jockey, towel head, etc…
Lol, on Pan’s comment below.
That kind of shit can be nipped in the bud by a single teacher with the guts to grab a couple of those little pricks by the ear and threaten to tell their parents.
-jcr
I DO so love hearing the SJW/media asswipes shouting in everyone’s faces about how tears should flow and how to survive this tragedy and how ALL WHITEZ ARE TEH RACISTZ!!!!
Jesus, it’s awful. And a nice view into their real, hyperbolic, arrogant bigoted little minds.
The best one was the comment sections talking about “assassinating Trump”, where 99% of the commenters would take a shot at TrumpHITLER….if only they could get a gun in their disarmed blue states, or knew how to even USE a gun.
Whiny. Fucking. Idiots.
Helter Skelter. I’m a-skeered.
So, just an anecdote, but I have a friend living in New York and some guy standing next to her on the subway kept shifting his hand closer to her crotch and when she finally confronted him about it he just moved down the train and yelled “Trump 2016!”
This was after the 2nd debate I think. So, there do seem to be some idiots out there.
Friend of friend stuff is the best! …imagine that though…she would have been the first person ever groped on a subway….not like they have entire porn sites dedicated to that.
After the 2000 election, until 9/11, there was a steady drumbeat of “Bush is the cause of all evil” nonsense. 9/11 shut it down for a while, as all but the dumbest lefties could tell that it would be unwelcome, but it started up again pretty soon, and found its ultimate expression in the “Truther” movement.
I expect much the same against Trump.
The political Left has jumped the shark. They have gone full monty batshit insane. This has been true for a while … arguably since the events in 1989 that made ‘Communist Russia is just like us’ so obviously idiotic … but it is becoming more and more public.
If the Republican establishment was in any way prepared to put up a fight, this would be a perfect opportunity for them to pull the country to the Conservative Right. Sadly, the Republican establishment was coopted a long time past.
Let’s see Democrats deny others free speech, riot, block freeways, beat up old white people trying to vote, whine and pout for days because their lying thieving bitch doesn’t win and you want me to fear Trump’s supporters. Give me a break.
It’s not fascists to silence speech…not at all…
It’s remarkable that with them crying wolf for such a long and obnoxious time, the wolf has not yet shown up to get rid of the damn noise.
Worth quoting here (from the same link way above) =
“” the Left has a supply-and-demand problem with bigotry: there isn’t enough to go around to support the apocalyptic world view they hold so dear.””
Fortifying this point: everyone knows (or maybe not) that regular old violent-crime is at a near-50year low at the moment. But you’d expect ‘hate crimes’ to have risen as a share of those, given that the country isn’t getting any less-diverse…. but – stats show 2 interesting things =
1 – pretty much every category of racial-hate-crime is down steadily since the mid 1990s – and anti-lgbt & anti-hispanic crimes (not shown there) are also down
you can find some sources arguing the opposite – which set their base year as 2005 instead, and manage to eke out a low-single-digit increase… rather than the 30-50% declines which the 20-year view shows.
2 – hate crimes happen more often in Blue states & in the North.
probably because people in those places are quicker to claim racial-victimhood, more than anything. but could also just be due to more-mixed populations.
I highly doubt the latter, given that most northern blue states are lily white compared to the national average. Probably had more to do with the fact that Southerners aren’t the monsters they’re made out to be, have had more experience living amongst each other and the moderating influence of the Church, which from my experience as a mixed-race person who has lived in both TX/OK/LA and MN/WI/WA, is quite missing from the white Northerners that I’ve seen express racism.
Suburbs tend to group around socioeconomic strata rather than racial identity (which is not to say there aren’t prominent wealthy black or Asian communities and the like, which are grouped around both).
But since the economic strata aren’t equally distributed across the races, this makes most suburbs whiter (or at least, less black) than the national average.
Put another way, outside of the cities, it’s not so much a choice to disassociate with people by skin color, but rather to disassociate with people with substantially less income/fewer assets.
I think this is a salient point here. In the South, as I understand it, whites and blacks are more close to each other economically and to some extent socially. In the north, especially in the suburbs of big cities like the one I grew up in, the middle class was nearly all white, with a noticeable Asian minority (and Asians were basically regarded as white people).
The black people were almost entirely urban, lived in their own homogeneous neighborhoods, and were almost all poor or working class.
The cultural side is important too. In Nothern cities/suburbs, the white people are mostly Catholic (Irish, Italian, Polish, German, etc.) with some Jewish; they speak general American or Northeastern (Boston, NYC) dialects. The blacks are protestant and speak a dialect that is basically a variation on the southern dialect because that’s where their grandparents and great grandparents came from.
Racial ideology has little to do with segregation or integration, I think. The fact is, poor protestant white southerners are generally going to mix better with poor protestant black southerners than will middle class Catholic/Jewish white northerners.
Evidence of violence against Trump supporters: pictures, videos, news stories, police reports, etc.
Evidence of violence against everyone not a straight, white, male: Twitter screen shots
It is a Trumptastic day. I was driving down the Trumpvenue in my Trumpobile enjoying the Trumpshine. Went to the Trumpfood restraunt where I ordered a Trumppounder with cheese and an extra side of Trump. It was Trumplicious.
yeah i know i double Trumpposted this. Too Trumpin bad.
Remember in another universe you replace the T-word with the C-word.
Obama has proven you can fulfill practically none of your campaign promises and remain a popular president.
That’s why he is popular.
After incessant denigrating of Mexicans and the silence of reason tv writers, It doesn’t seem reasonable to ask for a pass and a Trump do-over.
Mexican…is a citizen of Mexico…not a race…
How does Mexico and the Mexican’s get a pass on their country’s Draconian immigration laws, yet Mexico cries foul when America tries to only enforce the laws already on the books?
The mass deportations are not going to happen nor should they…but finally living up to what was promised during the Reagan Amnesty is long overdue.
Saw an alleged victim being interviewed last night – Trump supporters snuck up on me in a parking lot, tried to choke me by my hijab, etc. She couldn’t keep the smile off her face while telling the story, so I’m just a tiny bit suspicious here…
Was that this one?
I posted this on Facederp and immediately got comments saying it must be nice to have the privilege to write off these incidents and demanding my apology to the victims of hate crimes.
It almost makes me nostalgic for two weeks ago when we all couldn’t wait for the election to be over.
Isn’t all this fearmongering likely to lead to a Trump landslide in 2020? If you convince tons of people that someone is Literally Hitler, and then for four years he governs as Giant Douche, he’s vastly exceeded the expectation you created, which makes him seem awesome in relative terms.
so..wait. what about all the violence perpetrated by anti-trump rioters? Doesn’t that count? or since they are anti-Trump do they get a free pass to stomp trump supporters, block traffic, burn tires, and run amok?
They’re breaking lots of windows, so it’s good for the economy.
That only counts if you refuse to repair a window over a matter of conscience.
there’s no doubt that Donald Trump’s policies may pose a direct threat to certain classes of American people.
Citation needed.
The racism I hold in my heart is to assume that every person of color thinks I’m a racist, because I’m white.
Do you really expect me to believe that the 21st century Kristallnacht that has been happening since election night is a bunch of Democrats and assorted leftoids? When has this ever happened before!?!
/s
But there is. SJWs in training, straight out of your local college campus, are rioting and destroying everywhere.
Someone in my family received an anti-Semitic slur while at a US airport today. This has never before happened to anyone in my family during my lifetime. This is not a made up or cherrypicked liberal media example, and I am not a random “friend of a friend”. Many libertarians know me, and I am testifying that this happened. I know nothing about how common this is, how reflective it is of cultural changes, or anything else, but it is real and it scared the crap out of me.
Sure, promoting false events for clickbait and righteous anger is wrong. But isn’t dismissing true events for comfort and superiority wrong too?
all this is just pent up sexual frustration based upon the idea that democracy is a crime when the other person wins.
The good thing about Trump winning is that people suddenly believe in limited government and checks and balances.
I can almost follow the narrative being pimped by the MSM about “racist” Trumplings. They can build on the whole Muslim/Immigration policies. It’s BS, but at least there is enough there to build a convincing lie.
But how or where are they pulling the whole LGBTQ fears from? Trump is the most LGBTQ tolerant Republican ever elected to high office. He poses no risk to Gay rights or Gay marriage. Where are they digging this one up from?
But he must hate gays if he doesn’t want to let ISIS fighters in the country to throw them off of tall buildings.
Oh, wait.. Logic is HARD!
-jcr
The only violent hate-crimes out there seem to be those being committed by the leftists.
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You need to not smoke dope, then write. Bad idea.
“There’s no doubt… “? There is plenty of doubt, and outright dismissal of your ideas.
Have you in the press land nothing? Have you not understood the absolute harm you do to your own cause by hyping this is of ignorance?
There are ridiculous racists everywhere. Black, white, brown and more. Racism is in many colors and is all ignorant.
You glaze over the destructive, dangerous hundreds, even thousands, rioting in dozens of cities performed by those like yourself to point out several instances of individuals being ignorance.
You people need a bit more introspection.
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Meanwhile, some old white guy in Chicago got beaten up Reginald Denny style by a gang of black men and women screaming about him voting for Trump. Can’t imagine why that’s not all over CNN, MSNBC, and the rest of the leftard media with a headline shouting “OMFG, When Trump is president, this old white guy might have a gun!”
-jcr
If Trump’s voters were all Nazis, as some idiots in my FB feed are insisting, then our president-elect would be David Fucking Duke, not some guy with a Jewish daughter and son in law who’s getting friendly messages from Bibi Netanyahu.
-jcr
This election is a total sham and a travesty.
We are not a democracy! The electoral college
is a disaster for a democracy. More votes
votes equals a loss…revolution. We can’t
let this happen. We should march on Washington
and stop this travesty. Our nation is totally
divided!
We are not a democracy —that is true we are a republic. I think a lot of people are in need of civics lesson.
Police in Phila. have a video of the perpetrator …a black man. So it seems that it is either a anti-Tump person voicing dissent or a BLM paid agitator causing trouble. http://6abc.com/politics/new-v…..y/1598984/
“…Trump’s policies may pose a direct threat to certain classes of American people”
The only class who should feel threatened are the globalists who, in all their forms, have sold out the world in their pursuit of money and power.
Let’s get this out of the way: there’s no doubt that Donald Trump’s policies may pose a direct threat to certain classes of American people.
Assertion not supported by facts.
Especially when you acknowledge the fact that immigrants are, by definition, not “American people.”
It they are here legally, and are naturalized, then they are in fact, American People.
“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside” XIVth Amendment, Section 1
There has been a massive wave of violence and criminal behavior. It has been a massive tantrum from the leftist goons.
CNN has been pushing this bigoted nonsense. No evidence whatsoever. How can it be stopped without killing any journalists?
This article is the most biased piece of material I have ever seen because it is so measurably wrong and silences the hate crimes that are happening. I demand it be taken down.
After the election, I heard about Klan marches in the South and swastikas in Philly. So I decided to go online on Thursday night, and check it out.
I ended up pulling an all-nighter because I discovered so many hate crimes.
Out of all I discovered, only a handful were either misunderstandings or a fabrication. I excluded them. I also saw about three acts of aggression against Trump supporters.
Compare that to the 80 hate crimes FROM Trump supporters the day after the election. Whoever wrote this article is willfully ignoring them and therefore this article should be taken down. This is the worst journalism I have ever seen.
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^click here if you want the truth. I provide links to corroborate every shred of evidence.
The Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks hate crimes, is “seeing a rash of hate crimes, of hate rhetoric, racist graffiti in campuses around the country,” said Mark Potok, an SPLC senior fellow, who called the uptick extraordinary.
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news…..11591.html
Let’s take your second link:
If you think that “the word ‘Trump’ with a swastika replacing the T” is “pro-Trump”, you really are a complete idiot.
What you are seeing here is the backlash of the kind of fear and demonization that Democrats have been spreading in the run-up to the election. They have demonized pretty much every Republican candidate like this for decades now. In different words, the fear and violence you are seeing is the result of Democratic strategies and messaging, foremost the kind of bullshit Clinton has been spreading in her campaign speeches.
Irrational Exuberence, you can interpret the fact of Trump spelled with a swastika however you like. The fact is it has been written, and publicized. It is also a fact that it will be interpreted as a symbol of racism by many as, for all we know, that may have been the intention. You have no idea why that swastika was drawn, and anyone who pretends they do is the real idiot. Both sides demonize and manipulate. They aren’t all bad and we aren’t all good. Lets be real.
I appreciate the use of the feel-felt-found form. But you shouldn’t use the SPLC as an authority.
WillyB, I completely agree. This “journalist” Elizabeth Nolan Brown should be fired from reason.com. To pick out a few BS incidents and take light off the now 700+ legit incidents after the election is appalling. Heck, my own friend had swastikas spray painted all over his house in CT. So to all these people agreeing with the “writer”, FUCK YOU. You are the ones we really need to worry about. You will turn normal individuals into fanatics, and when that retaliation hits home is when you’ll look back and SHUT THE FUCK UP.
And if he is talking about the illegal aliens, they are not American people.
Thanks for this article – glad I’m not the only one who noticed what the proggies are up to here. Smells to me like a coordinated propaganda campaign. Will take some work to pick these fables apart as soon as they throw them up.
Just as during the election, it is the left that creates the violence. Frankly, I cannot remember a time when anyone on the right was ever violent. You have to smile when you remember the Tea Party march in Washington where they actually cleaned up all the paper cups and anything left behind after the rally. The Wikileaks emails have shown that the DNC paid people to incite violence at Trump events. Soros pays Move On to protest. The children on the streets are manipulated by these same groups and the liberal professors and curriculum. It is sad and angering to see so many American institutions controlled by totalitarian leftists brainwashing and propagandizing the naive and compliant young and uneducated into promoting and carrying out acts designed to harm or destroy any conservative politician, public figure, or business.
Spoiled leftist crybabies didn’t get their way.
No crown for Queen Hillary, supporter of the racist drug war and a bigger warmonger than Dick Cheney.
Boo hoo hoo…
Your revolution is over, Mr. and Ms. Leftist warmongers! Condolences! The bums lost! My advice is, do what your parents did! Get a job! The bums will always lose, do you hear …
“Elections have consequences” B.H. Obama
Have you been able to debunk this assault report from Villanova? Seems pretty certain in the Philadelphia Inquirer story. http://www.philly.com/philly/n…..sault.html
A little off topic but…why would someone spray “Black Bitch” on someone’s car? Are they too PC to use the N-word?
Thank you for this expose on the headline stories that are complete BS. The reality though is that these people are scared. And there are a lot of people posting here who are laughing at their fears. That doesn’t help any of us.
How about some reassurance, people? How about some leadership making public statements that at least make the statement that they condemn bullying and harassment? Is that too much to ask?!
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Since Trump has been elected we’ve had one company meeting about harassment because a new male temp ( his first and last day there ) in the warehouse knocked off the hijab of a female temp. Since Trump, my friend, who’s background is Greek-american, ( yes greek but i guess they see enough of a difference from what an ideal white american is ) was yelled at from a passing truck while they walked on the sidewalk to “go back home”. The least Trump supporters and Trump himself could do is at least at admit to and disown the racists that they share the camp with. But you point it out and white people say “oh no I’m not racist” um that’s not what we were saying. We were saying that there are a disturbing number of people that are ( racist ) that also support the same guy you do. Probably because everyone knows if you talk about the black or any other community as “the blacks” or “the gays” what it’s code for about how you really feel just as Trump has said in his speeches. Last thing, Trump’s rich daddy was given money from the government to build apartments that he illegally would not rent to black people. ( notice how i didn’t say “the blacks” there to not sound like an asshole talking down about an entire people and lumping them together as one single thing )
Yup, you tell this idiot who wrote this article
The tone of the article bothers me. I get the trying to be reasonable aspect (you are “Reason” magazine, after all); but there’s a fine line between understanding and indulgence. The last thing we need to do is condone more of these Left Wing loony lies as acceptable to understand their fear. Apart from personal financial issues, that’s a large reason why Trump won the moderate Democrat voter–people who hadn’t voted Republican in their lives are sick and tired of P.C. and kowtowing to radical Left Wing sensibilities. Screw their feelings! I’m gay, and I have no fear of Trump or Pence. In fact, I voted for them. I fear the people who hate me for having voted for Trump. I literally would get assaulted into a coma if I mentioned it in gay circles.
Super Mario Bro: You won’t be gay anymore after Pence puts you through “conversion therapy”.
Somebody’s wrong, either Reason or CNN. At this very moment CNN.com has a post up about a number of these incidents. They can’t both be correct.
Since CNN and most the MSM have a record of wrong, especially leading up to this election, let’s go with Reason is correct.
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Even if most of them are not reportable crimes, the hate speech is hurtful and is just the beginning.
When Free Speech Kills
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Iq6RgaEAX0&t=1s
The left is the side that constantly riots, protests, cries. Breaking windows and burning cars. The right goes to work. The media emphasizes any crime against a minority but ignores most others since it does not fit their ideology of the poor victimized minorities.
The left is the side that constantly riots, protests, cries. Breaking windows and burning cars. The right goes to work. The media emphasizes any crime against a minority but ignores most others since it does not fit their ideology of the poor victimized minorities.
Free speech doesn’t kill. Why? Because it’s speech.
Republicans don’t usually protest, riot, cry because they respect the law and go to work. Yeah, we are really the bad guys here.
“I point all of this out not to mock or attempt to diminish the fear or dismay any individuals feel right now but to put things in perspective. ”
Why not mock the pretend fears of a bunch of crybabies who can’t accept losing and act like adults? When are people going to learn about the real world if they aren’t mocked for acting ridiculous. Mocking certainly did a lot towards getting me to snap out of my lingering adolescent and move on with life and I assume that happens to most people.
Stop validating invalid “feelings” that have no basis in reality. Stop pandering these overgrown infants and let them go through the same maturing process that they need to deal with real life.
Are you ducking kidding me? The author is the EPITOME of white privilege and refuses to see the violence. Look at the numbers found by the FBI: http://aje.io/hse5
From the subtitle of the article you linked to:
“Number of anti-Muslim hate crimes rose in 2015 “
2015. What does that have to do with the election of Trump?
For God’s sake read, don’t just cut-and-paste.
Not only that – look at the base that anti-Islamic hate crimes represent
iow, “large % swings year to year” make nice headlines, but you’re still talking about a TINY category within the already tiny group of hate crimes.
Additionally – hate crimes aren’t actually “a crime”.
They’re something prosecutors CHOOSE to charge people with if they think they can get the added penalty. A change in the # hate crime stats often reflects nothing more than a change in focus by prosecutors – not a change in the actual underlying base of criminal activity.
A FB friend is so intent on linking Trump’s election to racially-motivated violence, he uncritically shared this link:
“Police: Louisiana woman set herself on fire, wrote racial slurs”
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_new…..slurs?lite
Only problems?
1. The “attack” occurred in Oct. 2012
2. It wasn’t an “attack” at all, but a case of false reporting by the “victim.” IOW, she set herself on fire in order to claim that she’d been attacked by the KKK.
They want the “Trump’s racist America” narrative to be true so badly they’re sharing outdated, bullshit stories about “racist attacks.”
Reign terror on these lyin’ progressive SJW azzhats!!! Punch ’em in their Facebook. Kick’em in their Twitter. Smack’em square in the Instagram.
Does the SPLC have any case here? What’s their track record on representing facts correctly?
SEE: http://www.slpcenter.org/hatewatch
I’d like to see a national survey of hate speech and harassment to establish a baseline to compare to the immediate post election environment.
Good article, a breath of reason in the midst of the hysteria engendered by the recent election.
The kind of lies used by liberals since their inception.
I personally viewed a badly drawn swastika at a local train station. My friends are reporting similar reputable graffiti or bigoted language being used.
Add Raw Story to the list
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/1…..upporters/
No police report, and woman won’t say if she reported it to police. No substantiating evidence, and woman ironically gave a statement to the press saying she doesn’t want to talk to the press.
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FBI is reporting and increase of hate crimes.
FBI is reporting an increase in the reporting of hate crimes.
FIFY
This is all part of a campaign to generate hate, conflict, and fear to use as a lever on Electors prior to the 12/19 vote.
The left wants this to escalate to riots and violence on a national level in a Hail Mary attempt to prevent Trump getting to inauguration.
This country did not go from yard signs to swastikas in 2 days. Complete propaganda and false flags.
MikeP2 yes it did go from yard signs to swastikas. My own friend had his house in CT spray painted with swastikas. And today you have the first major backlash of those hate crimes, where an OSU student had enough and killed people.
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“A Nazi flag that went up over a home in San Francisco Wednesday wasn’t a show of support for anti-Jewish sentiment but “a comment on our new president-elect,” according to the anti-Trump resident who put it up. “I am hoping people get that this is a political statement, and that I’m not a Nazi supporter”
LITERALLY a false flag lmao
“A Nazi flag that went up over a home in San Francisco Wednesday wasn’t a show of support for anti-Jewish sentiment but “a comment on our new president-elect,” according to the anti-Trump resident who put it up. “I am hoping people get that this is a political statement, and that I’m not a Nazi supporter”
LITERALLY a false flag lmao
????? 2017 ????? ???????.
“A Nazi flag that went up over a home in San Francisco Wednesday wasn’t a show of support for anti-Jewish sentiment but “a comment on our new president-elect,” according to the anti-Trump resident who put it up. “I am hoping people get that this is a political statement, and that I’m not a Nazi supporter”
LITERALLY a false flag lmao
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