Conservative #NeverTrump Republicans Are Already Eating Their Own
It hurts to admit that Trump isn't alien to conservative culture - he's its near-perfect expression.

It's expected by most people who aren't dazzled by the glints of gold from everything associated with Donald Trump that he will lose decisively tonight to Hillary Clinton. And then probably pitch a fit for the next couple of weeks.
The Wall Street Journal's Bret Stephens was a vocal critic of Trump and in his last pre-election column he lays into what he says are lame, weak conservative intellectuals and politicians who failed to join him and others in denouncing the short-fingered vulgarian.
Revealed: That moral clarity and moral equivalence have become interchangeable concepts in today's GOP. The same Republicans who pontificated throughout the 1990s about restoring honor and dignity to the Oval Office are now eager to rent that office to a man who boasts of his own sexual predations. Why? Because Bill Clinton already went there….
Also revealed: That conservatives who once took umbrage at being called racist or anti-Semitic are now happy to flirt with white nationalism. That a party of self-described strict constructionists sees nothing amiss in Mr. Trump's call to rewrite the 14th Amendment. That the ability of Mr. Trump and his supporters to hurl insults at their critics is only exceeded by their exquisite sensitivity when they are insulted back. That a reset with Russia is a fiasco when executed by Hillary Clinton but evidence of fresh foreign-policy thinking when proposed by Mr. Trump….
Most conservative intellectuals have proved incapable of self-examination or even simple observation. Donald Trump is a demagogue. Period. The fervor of his crowds recalls Nasser's Egypt. His convictions are illiberal. His manners are disgusting. His temper is frightening. It ought to have been the job of thoughtful conservatives in this season to point this out, time and again. If they can't do that, what good are they?
George Orwell said that "to see what is in front of one's nose needs a constant struggle." The Big Reveal of 2016 is that most conservatives failed the Orwell test. On Tuesday we'll learn if American voters can do better.
This is all well and good (and as a hawk's hawk who has never fully moved past the Cold War, Stephens is particularly exercised by Trump's accidental suggestion that maybe NATO and relations with Russia need to be rethought since 1991). But it really lets conservative Republicans writ large—including many of the folks at the Wall Street Journal—off the hook kind too easily.
The plain fact is that Trump didn't steal the Republican Party or the affections of conservative "intellectuals" (many of whom are simple partisans who are hardly worthy of the term). He's the culmination of a decades-long dumbification of a party that once used to pride itself as being the group (relative to Democrats, at least) with all the big ideas. Trump isn't the start of anything, he's the logical conclusion of a process that started sometime during the Reagan years that was far more about blind rage and partisanship than anything at all related to serious governance and allegiance to limited government ideals.
Newt Gingrich, the philosopher-king of post-Cold War conservatism, has always been the third-rate blowhard he is now on Fox News, where he talks with such latter-day Bill Buckleys as Sean Hannity and Judge Jeanine (Buckley, of course, was coasting intellectually much of his life, defending Joe McCarthy, racial segregation, and the quarantining of AIDS patients at various stages of his career; about the only time he was ahead of the curve was in denouncing the Iraq invasion as a mistake).
Indeed, what are we to make of the Republicans during the long reign of George W. Bush, when he spent more and more money we didn't have on everything we didn't need, from war to drugs for rich old folks to No Child Left Behind? That Bush and his party justified the Iraq War on specious grounds and then prosecuted a dumb war poorly was bad enough, but Bush and his apparatchiks went further, by financing their war via emergency supplemental funding bills that precluded open debate and defending the indefensible (torture, illegal surveillance). When the financial crisis came, Bush and Republicans (and the Wall Street Journal editorial board) supported TARP and semi-legal bailouts of whole industries. The Journal's editorial page, among virtually all others, went along with that.

This isn't to relitigate the past. The point is that Trump was able to barge into a party that had never even come close to living up to its starkly libertarian rhetoric of smaller, better government. Instead, unprincipled GOP pols, supported by champions in the media, were able to grow spending, regulations, and poorly conceived and incompetently executed wars without much of a backlash from the very people that Stephens is calling on the carpet now. There was always a reason to let this or that stupidity go, right, because in the end beating Democrats was more important than anything as trivial as principle? The result? The GOP became "stale and moss-covered" as Rand Paul put it a few years ago, and faced with declining appeal to a younger and a more-diverse America. That was already in place before Trump was on anyone's radar.
Sure, Trump is an awful person and candidate, and he's not even remotely serious as a policy wonk much less a prospective president. I too would be embarrassed if he was the standard-bearer of my party and movement. But let's get real: He's a pretty damn solid conservative and Republican. He brought his position on abortion into line in order to run for president and he's perfectly vile on immigration (the WSJ is a great and sadly rare exception to the reining orthodoxy on the right, which is all for closed borders and hissing in the direction of Latinos and other newcomers). He has pledged to spend (borrow) lots of money to continually upgrade the military and he hasn't been slow about talking about projecting American force willy-nilly (which is to say, Bush style). He's in favor of torture when it's called for, holds old-age entitlements sacred, and is brazenly anti-intellectual (while also constantly invoking his Ivy League B.A.). Just like the "reformocons," he will use the tax code and subsidies for his preferred policies, such as child-care for middle-class families and paid parental leave.
The few apostasies that Trump declares—he doesn't seem to give a shit about religion, or gay marriage and other conservative social issues—are hardly the most unattractive things about him. Indeed, his willingness to say occasionally that our foreign policy isn't working so well (and the Obama's is a continuation of Bush's) shows that even a nearly completely ignorant candidate can stumble into truth.
Even on the longshot that Trump actually wins, the GOP has a lot of hard work ahead of it. It can't win the presidency with any regularity because it has been full of malarkey the entire 21st century when it came to living up to its small-government rhetoric. When given the chance, it either grew government at all levels and/or balked at doing things as simple as insisting on a serious budget process (this is Speaker Paul Ryan's latest failure btw, one that has gone largely unremarked upon). It spent more time demagoguing Obamacare as a threat to Medicare than coming up with an actual market-centered health-care reform of its own. It told us that government is so inherently incompetent we can't let it run our schools or deliver our mail even as it marched overseas to re-sculpt whole regions of the planet of which we know little and care less. In sort, the GOP stopped being a serious party and its court intellectuals long ago stopped holding it accountable because the stakes were too high (which is to say, a short-term loss in political power).
An unserious party coughed up an unserious candidate. Imagine that.
Worse still: Republicans and conservatives will keep doing the same thing until they decide that they actually want to reduce the size, scope, and spending of government. That's the future that offers an actual, workable alternative to Hillary Clinton's and the Democratic Party's invigorated progressive agenda. But it will mean working with, among others, awful, awful people such as Rand Paul and Justin Amash in politics and libertarians out there in the policy and media space, who aim for consistency not because they're on the autism spectrum but because a unified vision of governance means less carve-outs for special interests and squabbling over public spoils. In an America where Gallup finds "libertarians" the largest ideological permutation—bigger than conservatives, liberals, and populists—the direction forward is kind of clear. Only the future awaits.
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I'm not dazzled by Trump and I expect him to lose by only a couple points. But I may be dazzled by Melanie.
She can dazzle me any time.
BUT HILLARYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
The Republican Party and the conservative movement at large chose racial resentment and white identify politics over actual small government principles. It was a logical progression after Bush milked Evangelical panic over gays for all that that was worth.
It's hard to feel bad for a party and a movement that committed mindless suicide and handed the election to Hillary Clinton.
Play silly games, win silly prizes.
Is the racial politics in something Trump said?
Damn, you've got to get a hearing aid. All those dog whistles. Nick could hear them. So could so many MSM commentators. It's not like they are projecting or anything.
You cosmos and cucks ought to get together and have a cannibal feast.
MAGA
SIV, buddy, I hate to break it to ya but you've been had. Hoodwinked. Bamboozled. Time to hang it up, let other people make asses of themselves on the internet.
In a few hours Trump is going to encourage you to support Hillary Clinton as the new president and then go back to doing whatever he wants like this whole thing never happened.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8mduTEvnU0
Okay, Nick, but what do you really think about the GOP?
You people need to know why anarchy works, and voting does not. This means you Nick.
Anarchy in Detroit my ass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfjsoTT7AXM
This what got me into Reason. Posted by you. I am not happy you went back on it like Weld.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJEzCN5kfJE
Is this statement to to be taken seriously? The needle on my irony deterctor is waving like a man on a desert island trying to flag down a passing cruise ship. Somebody help me out.
Something something Simpsons did it!
SugarFree did it!
That statement is to be taken as seriously as a grown ass man rocking a Fonzie jacket with a Beatles haircut.
Wow, what do you say after that one?
Only if you define "libertarian" as "All those otherwise currently unwilling to define themselves as republicans or democrats"
If Nick hasn't yet realized that this election has shown that the "vast non-ideological-middle" is pretty much diametrically opposed to libertarianism.... then he hasn't been paying attention.
it's at the very least authoritarian.
Yeah, but at least he ain't Hillary Clinton.
*Ducks*
The destruction of the GOP as it currently exists was always in the cards, win or lose, and was the one silver lining on this wretched campaign.
Seriously.
We've talked about that a lot, and i've always said the party that *loses* this election actually has the most to gain in the longer-run, because they're going to be able to restructure themselves for the 'post-boomer' political environment.
But nick's too dull to see the pony in the pile of poo.
Ha, Comrade. You think The Party is so easy to destroy, yes? It is to laugh. The Party is bigger than you, or me, or any one man. The Party will still be there tomorrow, and will be even moreso than it is today!
Diffr'nt party, Pan.
I was doing research on the Soviet Union a couple days ago, and you know what seems to be the most long-standing, still existing part of the Soviet political structure, outside of the actual Communist Party?
Their freaking Scout group.
I had a red scarf! Except ours were isosceles triangle, instead of that Russian weirdness.
Pictured: Pan Zagloba - Age 16
Shit. If it's gonna be that kinda party, I'm gonna stick my dick in the mashed potatoes.
No he isn't and you sound stupid saying he is.
The reason Trump and Hillary are hardly distinguishable on the issues is because Trump is basically a Democrat.
He won the primaries mostly because disaffected blue collar, middle class, white Democrats are fleeing the progressive leadership..
Trump was opposed by the Republican leadership largely because his ideas are for Democrats, too.
Trump appealed to the same demographic that Reagan appealed to that they used to call "Reagan Democrats".
To say that Trump is a culmination of anything Republican is to miss all of that.
He's anti-free trade and his immigration stance are the same as everywhere around the rust belt--where people who can't get a job with the UAW wish it was 1965 again. Trump might as well have run as a Democrat.
Far as I'm concerned, in California, I had two Democrats to choose from for Senate--and two Democrats to choose from for President, too.
This why I am going to kill you last Ken.
=D
+1 Being Killed Last!
Ken, actually Trump is not a Democrat either. He is a random policy generator. He has some broad ideas of what he thinks is wrong - immigration, trade, terrorists - and just crafts sentences around those.
It's funny, people take Trump dead seriously about some things, and parse his every word, but accuse him of lying or exaggerating about others. In actuality he is merely speaking extemporaneously about how he feels about problems and dreaming up potential solutions, none of which are likely to even be presented as serious policies.
I am amazed at how few people see him for what he is.
Right. People see him as the Great Satan, Hope Revived, or Probably a Bit Libertarian I Mean Come On solely by downplaying or ignoring what they don't like and taking what they do like as gospel. The truth is he's likely to be a grab bag of normal establishment awfulness and naive solve-the-world-with-this-one-simple-trick awfulness, which overlap somewhat.
That excerpt was good enough and I suspect I don't need to read any of Gillespie's overlong ranting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wR2F9Km5d0w
President Hillary will viciously attack libertarians to stop any establishing of a foothold.
She'll be coming for Reason eventually...
Why? Reason is with her.
Once the TDS subsides, Welch and the rest of the squishes will be dumping on Hildog bigtime. It will be safe again to be seen as anti-establishment.
Right, the same way so many commenters here are with Trump.
Its not that Reason is with her.
What matters is that she will be hardcore against libertarians....
We're not that significant yet. Almost no one is hardcore against libertarians because we still don't really matter. Of all the people to be concerned about us, a major party candidate is at the bottom of the list.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bk67TqxQzGo
Jidenna is the fucking man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUR0Dcs86QA
Didn't we learn that Hillary and the MSM worked hard to make Trump the nominee?
Doesn't that make this epic concern trolling really Sad!?
Which CamPain was more honest, and carried itself with dignity ?
Hillary is a dignified liar.
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