A.M. Links: Today Is Election Day, Clinton Leads Trump in Polls, Baton Rouge Cop Sues Black Lives Matter Activist

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  Today is election day.

• Hillary Clinton leads Donald Trump in the polls.
• "7 scenarios for how election night might play out."
• Among journalists, 96 percent of campaign contributions have gone to Hillary Clinton.
• A Baton Rouge, Louisiana, police officer is suing Black Lives Matter activist DeRay Mckesson for "inciting violence."
• Five alleged ISIS members have been arrested in Germany.
• "Scotland's top law officer is to apply to the Supreme Court to intervene against the UK Government as it seeks to overturn a court ruling on the triggering of Brexit, First Minister Nicola Sturgeon has announced."

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[Fist of Etiquette]

oday is election day.

It's the fi-nal-count-down!

[Swiss Servator]

Thanks for the ear worm, you rotten $%#*

*beats head on desk*

[Fist of Etiquette]

I know, right?

[AlicePreston]

My last pay check was $9500 working 12 hours a week online. My sisters friend has been averaging 15k for months now and she works about 20 hours a week. I can't believe how easy it was once I tried it out. This is what I do... http://www.Trends88.com

[Fatthew Piglesias]

I like burritos.

[Enough About Palin]

Alice likes burritos too (IYKWIMAITYD).

[SimonD]

Hmm. The fact that I know what your acronym means tells me that I've been spending too much time hanging around with you degenerates.

[lafe.long]

oday is election day.

Buckwheat approves this message.

[You ARE a Prog (MJG)]

I thought we killed Oday.

[Cdr Lytton]

Today is Tuesday or Oday is Qusay?

[UnCivilServant]

Or is it Uday?

[Rufus The Monocled]

Hello.

[GOML!]

Most of my office is openly voting for Hillary because pant suit.

Today especially I really hate almost everyone. I really need to find some fellow libertarians in real life.

I'll stick around here today to save my sanity.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Feel happy in the knowledge they're going to get the president they deserve.

[Col. Chestbridge]

Good and hard.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

And without lubrication.

I'll at least have my tears.

[Playa Manhattan.]

I can't spare the moisture.

[Mr Drew]

I'm not sure if tears means weeping or ripped flesh

[Certified Public Asshat]

And that their lives will continue to suck until they decide to change it for themselves, instead of thinking some asshole President will make it all better.

[UnCivilServant]

I'll stick around here today to save my sanity.

I took the day off to avoid real life people when they're most prone to talking politics.

[bibo ergo sum]

I did the same.

Today's all about binge-watching Liverpool football* & sipping on Heineken.

The election can suck it.

[Tonio]

Nice handle. Welcome aboard. Uncontrollable vomiting is normal here, even when there's not an election.

There are occasional meetups in various cities. Watch the comments here. If there isn't one in your area; start one.

If you think being here will enhance your sanity, it's already too late.

[GOML!]

Thanks, Tonio. I've been reading H&R for years but rarely post. I participated in the H&R fantasy football league until it ended (I'm looking at you, Ken). I'm in Central Florida but haven't seen a local meetup.

[Brett L]

East Coast or West Coast?

[GOML!]

East coast.

[Brett L]

Doh.

[OneOut]

Reason FF is alive and well.

[SFC B]

Unlike my team's chances.

[Citizen X]

Eh. Sanity is relative.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

And overrated.

[Junior Juniorson, III]

Uncontrollable vomiting is normal here, even when there's not an election.

I assumed it was recreational.

[Plisade]

Are any of The Commentariat in the Nashville, TN area?

[The Fusionist]

"I'll stick around here today to save my sanity."

That's like staying around Bill Clinton's house to save your virginity.

[GOML!]

Sane relative to the 97% of people around me with either cognitive dissonance or political denial or both.

[C. Anacreon]

Some of my friend sit around every evening and they worry about the times ahead.

But everybody else is overwhelmed by indifference and the promise of an early bed.

[GILMORE?]

I'll stick around here today to save my sanity.

(represses maniacal laughter)

[Ayn Random Variation]

I feel your pain. There are two types at my office: hillary supporters and those who want Obama to do something so he can stay in office.

[Juvenile Bluster]

Probably not so bold prediction:

In 2020, Tim Kaine is running on the Democratic ticket as the incumbent President. Not sure if it's illness or indictment, but she doesn't last four years as President.

[spqr2008]

Is it really bad that I hope she beats William Henry Harrison's record?

[straffinrun]

For most grizzle in beard?

[Cdr Lytton]

That's no way to talk about Bill!

[Call Me Conrad]

Bravo!

[straffinrun]

Thanks. If that comment had been left untouched, I'd have quit HnR.

[Apple]

She's already got him beat. William Henry Harrison didn't have a beard.

[The Fusionist]

I hope she has a very long life...in retirement.

[Pay up, Palin's Buttplug!]

Leibesh: Is there a proper blessing... for the Tsar?
Rabbi: A blessing for the Tsar? Of course! May God bless and keep the Tsar... far away from us!

[WTF]

It won't be indictment, Democrats will never hold one of their own accountable.

[Bubba Jones]

If she dies, does that guarantee she is on a coin?

[Princess Trigger]

AND aircraft/drone/cyborg carrier.

[l0b0t]

USS Walter Mondale?

https://youtu.be/mpzj1IvEhTA?t=1m

[Enough About Palin]

I work with his grandson. Nice kid. Really bright.

[C. Anacreon]

You work with a boat's grandson?
Is he a tugboat now, but is growing?

[Ayn Random Variation]

Oh absolutely. She'll be dead or in the nuthouse in a year. If there's any justice she'll be in jail or impeached, so dead or nuthouse only hope.

[Jimbo]

I've had the same thought as well. I would rather have her there as president so that she to defend herself.

[Enough About Palin]

Does it count as a first if you drop a letter in the quote?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Hillary Clinton leads Donald Trump in the polls.

Root is calling it for Hillary.

[Swiss Servator]

Is he Rooting for her?

[Tonio]

[squints at Swiss]

[Fist of Etiquette]

I don't get it.

[Rasilio]

Which is worse rooting for her or rutting for her?

[Mickey Rat]

Rutting. Even that horndog Bill could only do it once.

[WTF]

I thought Chelsea was Web Hubbell's spawn.

[bacon-magic]

These euphemisms are out of control. Swiss I'm counting on you to root out the problem.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Among journalists, 96 percent of campaign contributions have gone to Hillary Clinton.

And that's just in their stories.

[straffinrun]

They gave money to her, too.

[Krabappel]

So-called journalists which are really just Clinton campaign surrogates.

[PurityDiluting]

Pasting in someone's comment from an article about media bias:
"Ok, let us face the question straight: are you saying American Media is in 'bed with HRC'?
The first order of the duty of History is to get all 'morons who agree with Trump' on record.
Sure, one is never expected to compare any modern day demagogue with Hitler; but it is equally incumbent that we put all those 'less thinking folks' on record when those folks support Donald Trump.
Don't get under the impression that you will get away by supporting a bigot, pervert like Trump."

[PurityDiluting]

Good thing Hillary is a unifier

[WTF]

A "bigot, pervert"? I bet he didn't have a problem with Bill Clinton in the White House. Also not sure what makes Trump a "bigot".

[UnCivilServant]

He was against unlimited unvetted importing of people.

[Crusty Juggler]

Related: 'Rope. Tree. Journalist.': Trump Supporter Wears Shirt Promoting Lynching Reporters

For those of you who do not want to read stories full of Tweeters: the image.

[NebulousFocus]

I tried to needle Julian Sanchez over an idiotic tweet using this. He then blocked me. Class act. The link is here ">here

[NebulousFocus]

fuck. here

[Anomalous]

That dirty Sanchez.

[Stormy Dragon]

"Why do the people I send death threats keep blocking me!?"

[spqr2008]

I love how shocked they all are that anyone would hate them for their slanted reporting, and trying to pass it off as objective, when they routinely slander any Trump supporters, or anyone who isn't voting for Herself. Yes, if you are bigoted against my views to the point that you associate me with Nazism (especially since the journos tend to favor a large socialist state), I just may come to hate your guts, and not feel terribly bad if something bad happens to you. That may make me a bad person, but still not a Nazi.

[Free Society]

Why would you be a bad person for hating those who would lie to you and see you and your family destroyed or enserfed? If you didn't hate them, I'd think you're a weakling or a retard or maybe even a retarded weakling.

[Just a thought not a sermon]

GODDAMNIT

[Just a thought not a sermon]

Yes, I voted today.

[UnCivilServant]

I did as well.

Unfortunately, I have too strong a personal ethical code to have voted multiple times

[Eternal Blue Sky]

I appear to have convinced like 6 people I know to vote Johnson in hopes of getting 5%. And since I'm only shooting for 5% each of those votes is worth about 19 other people's votes. So mathematically I get to vote 133 times.

[Charles Easterly]

Ditto.

[UnCivilServant]

What state are you in?

[Eternal Blue Sky]

The best one.

[Tonio]

^This.

[Col. Chestbridge]

Yarp. I'm voting after work. There is a very real chance I will be the only GJ vote in my entire district.

[You ARE a Prog (MJG)]

That makes you a super-minority!

[Fist of Etiquette]

A Baton Rouge, Louisiana, police officer is suing Black Lives Matter activist DeRay Mckesson for "inciting violence."

That's a civil suit, eh?

[Bee Tagger]

Today is election day.

Can I still register to vote?

[WTF]

Why bother, just vote anyway. As many times as you want.

[Tonio]

Varies by state. But there are many places where lack of valid registration is no impediment to voting.

[Lee Genes]

Along those lines

With less than 24 hours until Election Day, it's a desperate push to get minorities to the polls and to make sure everyone has enough time and access.

The North Carolina NAACP is asking the State Board of Elections to extend the polling hours. But if that request is not granted, NC NAACP president Reverend William Barber is challenging the minority community to do what it takes to cast their vote.

If you haven't managed to send in an absentee, or plan ahead in the slightest then maybe you shouldn't be voting.

[Get To Da Chippah]

SOME PEOPLE ARE TOO POOR TO HAVE CLOCKS OR CALENDARS, YOU RACIST!

[juris imprudent]

Those too poor or ignorant to have noticed there is an election - the most important election in our lifetime - going on, can be counted on to vote Democrat apparently.

[commodious cam't contmpla..]

Not to worry, they'll get another crack at the most important election of their lives in four years.

[Tonio]

^This. But I do note that many people who do minimum wage work don't have that many options to take off. However, it ultimately comes down to a question of how important this is to them.

[Krabappel]

Thanks to the ACA few of them have full time jobs so hopefully they can vote after their 4 hour shift.

[Tonio]

A good point.

[Lee Genes]

NC Absentee Ballot Request Form

[The Last American Hero]

Fuck them. If you want to vote, do some research in advance, make sure you are registered, locate your polling place, apply for an absentee ballot.

Showing up on election day with no registration mumbling about freedom is not the answer.

[Bubba Jones]

Texas has extended days/hours of early voting.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

It's a little late for early voting.

[Enough About Palin]

In my state, the polls are open from 7:00 am to 8:00 pm. Withe the exception of fireman, I don't know anyone who works a 13-hour shift

[Crusty Juggler]

Nurses can work 12 hour shifts.

[Bubba Jones]

7 to 7

But they didn't work every day of the early voting period.

[Dick N. Bimbose (n?e Cooper)]

WHY ARE THINGZ SO HARD?

[R C Dean]

Because of the racist Republicans, duh.

[Enough About Palin]

Two black dudes on my bus this morning were saying that it doesn't matter if Hillary wins. The Republicans will prevent anything from getting done, just like they've done to Obama. I can only hope they are both felons.

[WTF]

That's hilarious. I'm trying to think of something Obama wanted to do that the Republicans stopped him from doing.

[bibo ergo sum]

Seriously.

The term "checks & balances" makes me chuckle these days.

[The Fusionist]

In NC, there's an extended early voting period. I don't know what the NAACP is blathering about. Unless there's a lot of black people who are inclined to sit this election out, and the NAACP wants more time to nag them into voting.

[WTF]

You mean more time for the ward heelers to drag them to the polls to vote the right way if they know what's good for them.

[Brett L]

Did you just call the NAACP naggers?

[UnCivilServant]

Worse, they're a racist shadow of an organization that used to have a positive function, but is now a deadweight loss to society.

[The Fusionist]

Wow, Brett, I'd actually forgotten about that joke.

[lafe.long]

Naggah, please!

[bibo ergo sum]

Top 10 South Park moment.

In my opinion.

[Swiss Servator]

Welcome to Illinois!

[Free Society]

I actually had to provide identification to vote today. I couldn't believe that I was being attacked with such vile racism! It was like so oppressive, man.

But at least now I know the plight of being a black man. My BLM t-shirt is on it's way in the mail.

[UnCivilServant]

I wasn't asked to provide ID.

Which was good, because I didn't update my current address with the BoE (but I am still in the same district, etc so there were no elections on the ballot I was not supposed to vote on)

[Brett L]

Yes, they swiped my ID and got a signature from me.

[robc]

I have never voted without showing ID.

I realized I have never used by CCDW for that (I have used it for liquor purchases). I should have.

[bibo ergo sum]

I had to turn my head & cough.

A little awkward but I got to vote so, meh.

[Lord Humungus]

Australian rugby star has unfortunate porn mishap during talk to high schoolers

Hayne was speaking about online safety on behalf of Norton Security and showing his iPhone's online browsing history at the Gold Coast's Robina State High School when suddenly, after a bevy of boring sports images, up popped a pornographic website, displaying images of lewd acts and a topless woman.

This doesn't appear to be an untimely slip by Hayne, however; according to Norton, the images came from another device that had entered the network. In a censored video of the moment from 7 News Queensland, students gasp, laugh and clap as the images fill the screen, and Hayne holds up his phone to show his innocence.

[Tyler.C]

More embarrassing for norton than anything else.

[Dick N. Bimbose (n?e Cooper)]

AirPlay is the devil's airplaything.

[The Fusionist]

"showing his iPhone's online browsing history"

I think I see where this is going...

"the images came from another device that had entered the network"

OK, I hadn't anticipated this.

But come to think of it, why would a rugby star want to look at porn, he can probably get whatever he's into in real life, not on an iPhone screen.

[Bee Tagger]

"7 scenarios for how election night might play out."

Hillary wins by 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, or 70 percentage points

[You ARE a Prog (MJG)]

Remember: As dumb as today will be, everything's alright.

[Fist of Etiquette]

You,
You work all night (all night)
And when you work you don't feel all right
And we,
We can't stop feeling all right (all right)
And everything is all right

'Cause we will never listen to your rules (no)
We will never do what others do
(No)
Do what we want and we get it from you
Do what we like and we like what we do

So let's get a party going (let's get a party going)
Now it's time to party and we'll party hard (party hard)
Let's get a party going (let's get a party going)
When it's time to party we will always party hard
Party hard (party hard, party hard, party hard party hard, party hard)

...and so on.

[Johnny Hit n Run Paulene]

+1 Andrew WK (love that guy!!)

[Certified Public Asshat]

I imagine you blasting this every morning at 8:59:59 am and again at 4:29:59 pm.

[Fist of Etiquette]

This also happens to be the Pittsburgh Penguins goal song, starting last year. So I'm all on board with it. It was playing while I was in the shower this morning.

Let me nip this in the bud. Was I pleasuring myself to it? No. I don't waste water and I don't waste my precious seed. (That's what you get for thinking about making the joke.)

[Certified Public Asshat]

Didn't cross my mind, it's way too fast for a masturbation song.

[WTF]

Not for an accomplished Fist.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

I don't waste my precious seed.

He keeps it in jars.

[Lord Humungus]

Australian man shoots robber with bow and arrow

A 68-year-old man who was home with his wife prevented the theft of his car, but not of a large amount of cash and a purse, by shooting a would-be robber in the buttocks with a bow and arrow. In addition to investigating the robbery, police also say they must investigate the homeowner because of Australia's strict laws against assault -- even an intruder in your house.

The intruder broke into the man's house taking the items and, as the robber was getting into his Nissan X-Trail, the homeowner went into the garage, confronting him. The robber got the car out of the garage but hit a fence.

As the robber was running down the street, the homeowner shot the man in the buttocks with a bow and arrow. The robber managed to get to a parked car and, somehow, drive it away.

[WTF]

In addition to investigating the robbery, police also say they must investigate the homeowner because of Australia's strict laws against assault -- even an intruder in your house.

Coming soon to America once President Hillary gets her way.

[BigT]

In addition to investigating the robbery, police also say they must investigate the homeowner because of Australia's strict laws against assault -- even an intruder in your house.

Coming soon to America once President Hillary gets her way.

Women and minorities hardest hit.

Oh, the irony, it burns.

[Bubba Jones]

Even Texas frowns on shooting someone in the back.

[WTF]

I wasn't talking about the shooting in the back part. Australia's laws, which Hillary so admires, include potential charges for defending yourself against an intruder in your house.

[Just a thought not a sermon]

"police also say they must investigate the homeowner because of Australia's strict laws against assault -- even an intruder in your house."

Is this true, Australians? But in any case, this isn't really a test of that, as it sounds like the homeowner actually hit him with the arrow after the robber was already fleeing and off his property.

[robc]

Even in KY, I cant shoot you fleeing down the street.

Inside the house is an entirely different matter.

[Pay up, Palin's Buttplug!]

In California, you can.

[LC]

Yes, even if you assault a robber inside your house, you are open to being charged with assault.

One of the several reasons I will continue to remain a US resident...

[But Enough About Me]

This is true in Canada as well. I keep telling people that the Canadian right to self-defense is essentially a theoretical curiosity at this point. In practise, defending yourself always involves a split-second decision about the trade-off between serious harm to yourself and going to prison for many years.

It's when I hear of stories of people defending themselves and being charged for it that I'm most ashamed of my country.

[Mickey Rat]

The criminal class does look out for each other.

[Bubba Jones]

The UK will charge you for defending yourself against an intruder.

[The Fusionist]

Aka interfering with elections since UK home invaders are probably Labour voters.

[Swiss Servator]

If the wallopers go after that man, we need the Oz equivalent of a tar and feathering.

[straffinrun]

Why don't they ever say, "Man shoots robber with gun and bullet"?

[Steve G]

Active voice for one thing

[BigT]

Why don't they ever say, "Man shoots robber with gun and bullet"?

Haha!

It's "crazed right-wing gun nut murders innocent minority with assault weapon."

[lafe.long]

Why don't they ever say, "Man shoots robber with gun and bullet"?

Well if in this story they just said, "man shoots robber with bow"
.. it would sound too festive.

[Free Society]

In several western European countries you need to provide a justification for your use of improvised weapons to defend yourself. If you bludgeon a burglar with a golf club, you'll need to argue in court that you happened to be practicing your swing when someone broke in and you struck him. If you use a knife, you'll need to be able to say that you just happened to be cutting cheese when all of a sudden someone broke in and you accidentally defended yourself with it.

[Brett L]

Which is why Germans just kill, cook, and eat their burglars.

[Free Society]

Hansel and Gretel is a well established legal precedent.

[Zero Sum Game]

Mmmm, R?uberschnitzel.

[Just a thought not a sermon]

"Scotland's top law officer is to apply to the Supreme Court to intervene against the UK Government as it seeks to overturn a court ruling on the triggering of Brexit,"

I was hoping for a few more clauses in this sentence.

[Zero Sum Game]

I thought that Brexit already triggered some people.

[bibo ergo sum]

I quit counting at 4

[DJF]

Nothing in the story about who gave Brazile the questions and whether they will be fired from CNN or promoted to a job in the Hillary administration

"Donna Brazile is totally not sorry for leaking CNN debate questions to Hillary Clinton"

http://preview.tinyurl.com/npklsrb

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

No one cares, unfortunately. Hillary and her crew have actively subverted the democratic process, but it's trump we should be afraid of.

[(((Renegade)))]

CNN has already said that they're rehiring her right after the election.

[Cdr Lytton]

They don't want to be out of competition for official state media already.

[Lee Genes]

No shit?

I suppose I shouldn't be surprised.

[R C Dean]

Nobody had to go out of their way to give her the questions. She worked for CNN at the time.

And I'm sure nobody ever thought that hiring a longtime Clinton political operator might lead to some ethical lines being crossed.

[DJF]

You would think that there would be some firewall between the questions and political pundents even if they work for CNN or did just anyone at CNN have access to the questions

[GILMORE?]

"The one thing folk need to understand at CNN, MSNBC and all of this: When you hire folk who are, as you say, the, you know ? their responsibility is to their candidate and their party," Madison said, "they're going to do whatever they can to win. That's just ? that's the nature of the beast."

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

Vigorously pulled the Johnson lever on my way to work.

OT - might vote on the way home.

[Swiss Servator]

*Gaze, Narrowed*

[robc]

clap clap clap.

Well done.

[Fruit Sushi 2 Go]

Nice

[juris imprudent]

That is no euphemism.

[BigT]

Vigorously pulled the Johnson lever on my way to work.

Today is erection day.

[Lord Humungus]

Hitler's wife's knickers sold at auction

The briefs, part of a collection that went under the hammer at the Philip Serrell auction house in Malvern, were expected to fetch around ?400, but sold for ?2,900.

A gold ring, a silver mirrored box and a silver holder still containing Eva Braun's bright red lipstick were also sold.

They were sold to a private collector.

The knickers, featuring a lace and ribbon trim, are embroidered with Eva Braun's initials.

The gold cluster ring, set with an opal surrounded by six rubies, sold for ?1,250, while the silver lipstick case engraved with 'EB' sold for ?360.

Meanwhile, a collection of early 20th century black and white photographs depicting Eva Braun, some with Adolf Hitler, sold for ?100.

The auction house confirmed the lots were all sold to a collector based in the UK.

[That's A Bingo!]

You know who else bought Eva Braun's knickers?

[Get To Da Chippah]

Eva Braun?

[Enjoy Every Sandwich]

Eva Braun?

[WTF]

The Underpants Gnomes?

[Lord Humungus]

Eva Braun?

[(((Renegade)))]

Eva Braun?

[UnCivilServant]

Eva Braun?

[straffinrun]

Eva Braun's mother?

[EDG reppin LBC]

+1 Jerry can't talk dirty

[juris imprudent]

Wait, wait, this one has to be Crusty Juggler.

[The Fusionist]

I'm guessing Eva Braun?

[Entropy Drehmaschine Void]

Donald Trump?

[DJF]

Hillary must really have wanted them to pay that much.

[SugarFree]

The real question: Have they been washed?

[The Fusionist]

I see the knickers fetched a much higher price than any of the other items.

Preverts.

[Crusty Juggler]

A Baton Rouge, Louisiana, police officer is suing Black Lives Matter activist DeRay Mckesson for "inciting violence."

"Ladies and gentleman of the jury, this man is too woke!"

[Citizen X]

Today is election day.

Nuh uh!

[straffinrun]

Get used to it.

[Citizen X]

[vomits, dies]

[Charles Easterly]

Don't look gang!

It's Medusa - and you won't be stoned in the good way.

[straffinrun]

Big babies.

[Entropy Drehmaschine Void]

That's not Medusa.

This is Medusa.

[Fist of Etiquette]

"7 scenarios for how election night might play out."

1. Hillary wins in an electoral landslide

2. Trump squeaks by for the win

3. Hillary squeaks by for the win and a mandate

4. Zombie Harambe rises from the grave and teaches us all the true meaning of Election Day

5. No one gets to 270 and we're all fine with that

6. Zombie Hitler rises from the grave and fights Zombie Harambe for us, redeeming himself

7. Number 6 happens, but in the middle of the accolades Zombie Hitler fucks up and the Soviets have to take him down

[Tonio]

It's not really a mandate if you win with a mere plurality of the popular vote, which seems a likely outcome for whoever wins.

[WTF]

I think he was being sarcastic, as even the slimmest margin of victory for Hillary will be proclaimed an overwhelming mandate by the media.

[Tonio]

I know he was. But it's important to start hammering any BS "mandate" claims early on. A mere plurality is not a mandate. And the fact that all those people voted third party is a rejection of the platforms of both major parties.

[Auric Demonocles]

If we're going to be realist, even a mere majority is not a mandate.

[commodious cam't contmpla..]

Mandate means "operating without Constitutional restraint," doesn't it.

[WTF]

No, that's what "President with a "D" after your name" means.

[Fatthew Piglesias]

"But it's important to start hammering any BS "mandate" claims early on"

Here? On this site?

Seriously?

[Auric Demonocles]

Are you insane? It's always a mandate if a Democrat wins.

[spqr2008]

The biggest and bestest mandate to ever have happened!

[thom]

A Clinton victory will be a decisive mandate. A Trump victory will mean that deep reflection is required to find out why America is so misguided.

[RT]

^THIS. I seem to remember in 1992, Bill Clinton claiming a mandate with, what, 43% of the vote? You see, the people voted for "change". Sound familiar?

Hillary won't be able to claim that, but that won't stop her.

[RT]

Normally, I guess claiming a mandate wouldn't be that big a deal, but some of the things she wants to do (free college! First Amendment? Second Amendment? What's that?) are big changes in the status quo...

[CE]

So if Clinton wins with 295 Electoral Votes and 46 percent of the vote, with Trump getting 46 percent and Johnson 5 percent and Stein 2 percent and various also-rans 1 percent, the mandate is with the 54 percent voting against Clinton/Obama. So change wins again.

[But Enough About Me]

As a Canuck, I'm used to seeing governments formed this way. We haven't had a "mandate" since, uh, forever...

[Fist of Etiquette]

Weirdos.

[Swiss Servator]

4, 5 or 6 plz. Thx.

[Rufus The Monocled]

I think 4 is very plausible.

[$park? is totally a Swifty]

As the only vote I'll be placing today, I vote for 7.

[Entropy Drehmaschine Void]

6. Zombie Hitler rises from the grave and fights Zombie Harambe for us, redeeming himself and buying back Eva's underpants.

FTFY

[CE]

I'm hoping for a tie, 270-270.

[Tonio]

Those voting third party can at least comfort themselves that they have probably denied the eventual winner a majority of the popular vote. Small comfort, but something.

[Swiss Servator]

But the choices are tough - SMOD, Almanaian! or GrayJay?

[UnCivilServant]

I voted against Mooby Schumer and against Taxin Tonko, and against the other incumbent for the sake of it.

[(((Renegade)))]

I've encouraged Almanian! to do better in his choice of VP candidates than Johnson did. Almanian!/SugarFree 2016!

[SugarFree]

I promise you but one thing: DOOM!

[Zero Sum Game]

Gary, with SMOD as a running mate.

[The Late P Brooks]

Today is election day.

Why wasn't I told sooner? I haven't a thing to wear.

[Jerryskids]

If you're pondering your sartorial options, nothing screams "Election Day!" like a tire and a pint of gasoline.

[Dick N. Bimbose (n?e Cooper)]

Dress like Lady Gaga.

[Johnny Hit n Run Paulene]

Not-so-bold prediction: The dumpster fire that is this election at all levels will only continue. The importance of life, liberty and the pursuit has been replaced with the importance of "free" stuff, progressive authoritarianism and "it's not my job." Have a nice day.

[You ARE a Prog (MJG)]

If she was fully self-aware of what she was doing, then Lady Gaga has won me over for life.

But I doubt it. I guess she was paying homage to Michael Jackson, who was paying homage to the Nazis.

[Lee Genes]

That's just a little unsettling.

[Juice]

Damn, it fits with the slogan so well.

[Brett L]

I thought she was paying homage to Pink in The Wall.

[Heroic Mulatto]

YAAASS! You go Totalitarianism! You go!

[Free Society]

She must have been performing her new hit single "I'm with her! Sieg Heil!"

[Dick N. Bimbose (n?e Cooper)]

Now now. She didn't dress like a Nazi.

She dressed like a pedophile.

[Bubba Jones]

Epic

[Lord Rollingpin]

She is wearing her hair 'Robby' style.

[Lee Genes]

So I got a robocall from Huckabee this past weekend.

He told me I should go vote because Jesus said "Render unto Caesar..."

I really hate that fat bastard.

[straffinrun]

I agree with that. My shit isn't Caesar's.

[Swiss Servator]

Legio X is outside, and would like a word with you.

/Centurion

[UnCivilServant]

The Iron Hands are here?

[MikeT1986]

Iron Ministry?

[UnCivilServant]

The Iron Hands

[Drave Robber]

ROMANI ITE DOMUM!

[WTF]

Right! Now write it a thousand times.

[robc]

You would think he would know the difference between paying taxes and voting.

But it reminds me, I have been brooding over an essay called "On Being Caesar" for over 20 years now. I should start it some time.

[commodious cam't contmpla..]

Get cracking and publish it mid-January.

[BigT]

He told me I should go vote because Jesus said "Render unto Caesar..."

I really hate that fat bastard.

If Jeebus was so fat, how did they keep him nailed to that tree? Wouldn't he sort of drip off?

He was a bastard, though. I mean one virgin and one holy spirit aint a married couple.

[Crusty Juggler]

Before you vote, read this: Why I Insist on Voting for Hillary Clinton

I won't defend her behavior?I have criticized it myself many times. I find it distasteful. I wish saving my country from an unprecedented menace didn't require her.

But it is absurd to compare her shortcomings to her opponent's, because so many are in wholly different categories. I've been a professional journalist since 2002. Every government agency I have ever covered?local, state, and federal?has tried to evade public records laws at one time or another. Half of Washington doesn't follow the rules governing how classified information is stored, in part because those rules are broken. Conflicts of interest and special access for donors are ubiquitous.

That isn't to say these things should be overlooked. But most people insisting they cannot possibly vote for Hillary Clinton for this set of reasons have unashamedly voted before?and will vote again?for many politicians who conduct themselves with the same sort of low-grade corruption. It has plagued politics in America from the beginning, should always be resisted, and will never be eradicated.

[Lee Genes]

i.e., I've given up on my ideals, why shouldn't you?

[Crusty Juggler]

That's the entire piece.

[Domestic Dissident]

The Atlantic is DC's other flagship of professional fake libertarianism. This is nothing new at all for Conor Friedersweigel.

[Tonio]

^Nailed it. "Friedersweigel" for the win.

[Stormy Dragon]

"fake libertarianism" is redundant.

[Red Rocks Dickin Bimbos]

Has The Atlantic really been libertarian in any context since Michael Kelly died?

[IndyEleven]

Pascal's mugging is a powerful thing. I'm still amazed at the durability of the "Trump will have nooks!" argument.

[Juvenile Bluster]

Why should I read it first? Voting drunk after beating my head against the wall doesn't sound like a good idea.

[Juvenile Bluster]

Seriously though, Friedersdorf is a really good writer who usually has really good ideas. But this is just embarrassing.

[SIV]

Friedersdorf is a really good writer who usually has really good ideas.

You owe me a new monitor!

[PurityDiluting]

Gary is not an unprecedented menace

[Idle Hands]

I'm assuming this is Friesdorf. He's really lost his marbles over Trump, it's kind of sad as he's a pretty good writer. I really don't understand the hyperboli. A Trump administration is going to be a lot like a Mike Pence/Ivanka Trump administration, but with Trump going around rubbing it various people's faces that he is the president, globetrotting around advertising his properties, a revolving door of people coming and going from various cabinet positions due to him routinely dropping in erratically during meetings and firing them for trumped up charges and accusations about failing to not "make the country great again" and a fairly interesting twitter follow. This will last a year before he gets impeached and is forced to leave the office in disgrace after both parties have enough of him.

[Idle Hands]

The evidence:

Donald Trump's campaign reached out to Ohio Gov. John Kasich in May with an offer to make him the "most powerful vice president in history," The New York Times reported Tuesday.

Trump's oldest son, Donald Trump Jr., reached out to a Kasich adviser after the Ohio governor ended his own Republican presidential campaign, promising that if he accepted the vice presidency, Kasich would be in charge of domestic and foreign policy.

The adviser asked what Trump would be in charge of, the report said, and Trump Jr. responded: "Making America great again."

[Red Rocks Dickin Bimbos]

The adviser asked what Trump would be in charge of, the report said, and Trump Jr. responded: "Making America great again."

Christ, if Trump did nothing but fly around the world talking about how awesome the US is while Pence and his cabinet actually ran the country, he'd be the greatest President since Washington.

Transforming the Presidency into a neutered national cheerleading office instead of one that actually is a threat to do serious harm through pushing policies is almost too wonderous to wish for.

[spqr2008]

The sad part is that I think Pence is going to be less effective in that role than Kasich would've been. Kasich is a technocrat's technocrat (although I'd love to see any president adopt a few of his policies from Ohio, to name one, force all public colleges to accept transfer students more easily, with the state boards of ed streamlining curricula so that community college students don't lose credit transferring to any instate institution. He did so well at this that even a lot of the private colleges got on board with it.)

[SIV]

That was unsourced disinformation.

[Brett L]

Isn't it weird how the previous holder of that column, Andrew Sullivan, also lost his shit when a certain Republican populist threatened to swing an election?

[You ARE a Prog (MJG)]

That's my optimistic guess. I think he's so stupid he'll immediately start using his office to promote business ventures, burying him under scandals, ultimately leading to impeachment or resignation.

Not that we'll get to see it play out.

[WTF]

Haven't we already established the precedent that using elected office to enrich yourself and your cronies is not a prosecutable offense? Even if you deliberately compromise national security in the process?

[You ARE a Prog (MJG)]

You need to at least try to hide it.

He'll make it too obvious, and the media won't be making excuses for him.

[WTF]

So what? He will have control of the DOJ, just like the Democrats do now.

[Zero Sum Game]

Penn Jillette has done much to advance the cause of libertarianism too and it hurts to see him fall to the "you're wasting your vote" wolves.

Remember, this is the guy who went out of his way to defend sweatshops in China because they actually improve people's lots in life. He's an idealist and very much a libertarian (not a fake, like people have been claiming lately), but that vote for Hillary (even if it was "vote traded")... man, that had to be the hardest thing he ever did. Considering how vicious libertarians have been lately, he'll never earn back the respect.

Do we act this way because we're angry that someone took his toes from the line? It's exactly what we want others to do - step off the line and vote for liberty over partisan tribes. I'm less upset with Jillette (and I am upset with him, but will forgive the transgression given his service to our cause) for what he did than I am with the mathematics that convinced him to do it. Our voting system sucks. It creates the duopoly, and the duopoly knows it and they hold all the cards, thus it will never be changed.

[Zero Sum Game]

Penn Jillette has done much to advance the cause of libertarianism too and it hurts to see him fall to the "you're wasting your vote" wolves.

Remember, this is the guy who went out of his way to defend sweatshops in China because they actually improve people's lots in life. He's an idealist and very much a libertarian (not a fake, like people have been claiming lately), but that vote for Hillary (even if it was "vote traded")... man, that had to be the hardest thing he ever did. Considering how vicious libertarians have been lately, he'll never earn back the respect.

Do we act this way because we're angry that someone took his toes from the line? It's exactly what we want others to do - step off the line and vote for liberty over partisan tribes. I'm less upset with Jillette (and I am upset with him, but will forgive the transgression given his service to our cause) for what he did than I am with the mathematics that convinced him to do it. Our voting system sucks. It creates the duopoly, and the duopoly knows it and they hold all the cards, thus it will never be changed.

[Zero Sum Game]

I've finally been hit by the squirrels. Nuts!

[Rufus The Monocled]

Low-grade corruption. Geez, what qualifies as 'high-grade?'

[Free Society]

Selling off the US uranium reserves to Russia in exchange for money deposited in a private slush fund. Thankfully, no one stands accused of that.

[Voros McCracken]

When you put it that way...

[BigT]

low-grade corruption

Yeah, our local ward rep was taking donations from foreign governments while SoS. And he was emailing state secrets on unprotected email accounts. And, of course, he had a private server in his basement to keep his comments on the garbage collection contract secret.

I mean, everybody does it.

[commodious cam't contmpla..]

But it is absurd to compare her shortcomings to her opponent's

Well, yes, none of the latter's indiscretions occurred while holding public office with the express purpose of deceiving the American public. It's pretty absurd to pretend they're anywhere near equivalent.

[R C Dean]

I love the way a massive conspiracy to peddle influence and launder the proceeds is "distasteful".

[The Fusionist]

Regrettable.

Sub-optimal.

Bad optics.

Whatever, get in that voting booth, I don't care what you smell!

[RT]

"Half of Washington doesn't follow the rules governing how classified information is stored, in part because those rules are broken."

HA HA HA...stop! My ribs! My ribs!

Maybe that says something about our political class and not the rules? How, pray tell, are they broken? We should all have the hired help print out classified documents? Secure servers in our bathrooms?

[Lord Rollingpin]

I'm sure the press was all over that for the last eight years, said no one ever.

[Mickey Rat]

Trump's shortcomings are largely personal. Clinton's are professional. I do not believe Clinton made a mistake, she fid it deliberately to hide her corruption.

[Mickey Rat]

Trump's shortcomings are largely personal. Clinton's are professional. I do not believe Clinton made a mistake, she fid it deliberately to hide her corruption.

[CE]

That could have been one sentence:

I've been a professional journalist since 2002.

[Auric Demonocles]

Congratulations sexists, you are about to win an election. Plus you get to be all smug and narcissistic about it. Double bonus!

Congratulation Libertarian Party, you are about to juuuuust miss the 5% mark in what should be the easiest election for a third party in decades.

Congratulations normal Americans, you are about to get the maximum amount of time before the next election.

Congratulations Satan, you are about to get a picture without alt-text.

[Tonio]

Thanks, Debbie Downer.

[Red Rocks Dickin Bimbos]

Feline AIDS for the win!

[commodious cam't contmpla..]

I dunno, the third point is a silver lining that hadn't occurred to me. We should have a post-election-day-day airing of grievances in which we remind candidates and their campaign staff just what scummy lowlife shitheels they are.

[Enjoy Every Sandwich]

Okay, I've voted Libertarian. So you Trumpkins and Clintonistas, whichever of you loses, it's ALL MY FAULT!

Remember, it has nothing to do with the totally shitty candidate your party nominated and of course the voters from your own party who didn't show up bear no responsibility whatsoever!

[Idle Hands]

I mean you do realize a vote for Johnson is just like a vote for Hilllary. Why are you endorsing Hillary with your vote?

[Idle Hands]

I mean you do realize a vote for Johnson is just like a vote for Trump. Why are you endorsing Trump with your vote?

[Enjoy Every Sandwich]

Well, at least it's not my fault if Jill Stein wins.

[SIV]

You had it right the first time. Even Matt Welch came clean that GayJay is just running as a spoiler to save the permanent parallel shadow state.

[R C Dean]

By voting for Johnson, I voted for both Trump (according to Hillary) and Hillary (according to Trump).

I count that as three votes. I feel positively . . . Chicagoan.

[That's A Bingo!]

Today is election day.

The day that makes you hate democracy.

[Rufus The Monocled]

"Among journalists, 96 percent of campaign contributions have gone to Hillary Clinton."

Thus proving the theory of useful idiots remains strong.

There's no liberal media. Suuuurrrre.

[Free Society]

They only care about dealing in facts and keeping the public informed, they have a right to know what they're told to do!

[Lee Genes]

DU, election edition with a guest appearance by a Canuckistani

I've been following your elections since 1960.
I've read Advise and Consent, your constitution, and your Bill of Rights. You have an amazing form of government, which would be totally awesome if it were rescued from the Republicans and the alt-right business interests. Wouldn't it be lovely if you reclaim the Senate, and can do the things that august body was meant to do!

In order to understand this particular election, I have learned about the primary system, which truly offers any American the opportunity to run for president. Now if only more of the thinking public would vote at primaries, they couldn't be hijacked by the likes of Trump.

I read in-depth articles to such an extent that many of my American friends tell me I know more about this election than they do. (But not, obviously, more than DUers!) I have educated many Canadian friends about the nuances of your process.

[Juvenile Bluster]

You're a sick cruel person for posting this, you know that.

[Just a thought not a sermon]

What we really need is the dreamy young scion of a glamorous political dynasty.

"Wouldn't it be lovely if you reclaim the Senate, and can do the things that august body was meant to do!"

The Senate doesn't meet in August.

[CE]

So, Ivanka?

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the alt-right business interests

The alt-right business interests.

[Red Rocks Dickin Bimbos]

the alt-right business interests

These are nothing without their caricatures to argue against.

[Rufus The Monocled]

"...which would be totally awesome..."

As the smug prick strokes his pony tail.

[Free Society]

and the alt-right business interests.

Well that's a new one.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Indeed. What business interests are there that aren't already (((interests)))?

Jews did 5/28.

Jet Li can't melt steel beams.

But Jackie Chan can.

[You ARE a Prog (MJG)]

I like that he starts his credentials with a novel, then mentions the Constitution (which includes the BoR, idiot foreigner!).

[You ARE a Prog (MJG)]

I read in-depth articles to such an extent that many of my American friends tell me I know more about this election than they do. (But not, obviously, more than DUers!)

OK, that was worth it, Lee. Thanks.

[commodious cam't contmpla..]

It's. Dr. Feelgood Pantsuit vs. The Terrible Trump, what else do they need to know?

[Lord Humungus]

*shrugs*

Trump Holds 2-Point Lead Over Clinton As Election Day Arrives: Final IBD/TIPP Poll Results

[Bubba Jones]

I would laugh my ass off for 4 years.

[Lord Rollingpin]

That poll shows Johnson at well over 5%!

[Swiss Servator]

OK, going dark - see y'all tomorrow.

[Tonio]

Farewell, Switzy.

[WTF]

Chicken!

[Crusty Juggler]

Enjoy the jungle fever!

[Lord Humungus]

Once you go black, you never go back*

*not true based on several anecdotes.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Black what? Go back to what? WHAT?!

[Lord Humungus]

something something cuckservatve

[straffinrun]

Right on. Going to bed myself. Bet I can go 24 hours without knowing the results.

[Lord Humungus]

I'll be joining you soon - just stopping buy for some AM Links lols.

I can imagine myself checking the phone at 3AM tomorrow but I'm going to try and be strong.

[BigT]

OK, going dark - see y'all tomorrow.

What? I thought the sun never set on gaze narrowing in the Alps.

[The Fusionist]

Staying neutral, are we?

[You ARE a Prog (MJG)]

See you on the other side.

[Lord Rollingpin]

Returning to his home world for new instructions?

[Crusty Juggler]

We are covering government heads like celebrities? EXCLUSIVE: How besieged FBI director James Comey lived like a king in one of America's wealthiest towns (home to Martha Stewart, Paul Newman and Harvey Weinstein) but now can't unload his $3 million estate

Before he became FBI director, James Comey lived the Gold Coast high-life in Connecticut as a hedge fund high-roller.

Now the besieged Comey - under fire for his surprise letters to Congress about Hillary Clinton's controversial emails that have thrown the presidential election into chaos - is about to take another hit, this time on his palatial $3 million-plus home.

Comey bought the estate on more than three acres not far from where Martha Stewart used to live in ritzy Westport, Connecticut, for $3,050,000 in August 2010.

He's now had to reduce the price four times down to $2.5 million and he still doesn't have a buyer for the palatial estate.

Comey, who has a net worth of $11 million, lived like a king during the six years he spent at the Connecticut home.
Before he became FBI director, James Comey lived the Gold Coast high-life in Westport, Connecticut as a hedge fund high-roller

[Lee Genes]

Frankly, the litany of government bigwigs who have no experience in finance that are or have been employed by hedge funds is a sign of the end of the republic.

We are Rome.

[Bubba Jones]

Insider trading and/or payola.

[OneOut]

Maybe Soros or some other Proggy crony capitalist will reward him by bailing him out a few months after the election.

Overpaying for a piece of real estate wouldn't attract much attention.

[Dick N. Bimbose (n?e Cooper)]

Hedge-fund manager -----> Head of a law-enforcement agency?

No wonder we're so fucked. How does that happen?

[Red Rocks Dickin Bimbos]

Maybe Martha Stewart can offer to take it off his hands for $100 as a final "fuck you" for pointlessly throwing her in jail instead of the dozens of shithead bank executives that committed securities fraud.

[R C Dean]

And Comey's kid still works in finance. For a big contributor to the Clinton Foundation. Huh.

[Idle Hands]

EXPLAINING IT ALL TO YOU: The persistence of Vox?

No writer better represents the Vox ethos than co-founder Matthew Yglesias. Yglesias went straight to blogging as a Harvard philosophy undergrad, and his primary qualification for punditry has been his ability to produce a large volume of words at considerable speed. Along with Klein, he in many ways embodies what Vox-ism is all about......
Yglesias is a perfect case study in how highly-educated people can be embarrassingly stupid, making consistently ludicrous factual and analytical statements. Yglesias muses aloud "I'd been interested to know what, if anything, is legally or practically preventing [Miami] from just expanding further and further west if anyone happens to know" (Many wrote in to point out the existence of a rather large expanse of swamp known as the Everglades.) ......

So good.

[Idle Hands]

I once attended a public talk Yglesias gave on housing policy to promote on his (62-page) book The Rent Is Too Damn High. Yglesias was placed in conversation with Yale Law School professor Robert Ellickson, a bona fide expert on housing and zoning with approximately four decades of experience in the field. Goodness knows why anyone thought to pair the two up, as Ellickson is notoriously grumpy and does not suffer fools with much equanimity. The discussion was one of the most satisfying I have seen. Ellickson clearly had no idea who Yglesias was, and took pleasure in ripping Yglesias' pamphlet to shreds for its basic economic ignorance. Ellickson practically pondered aloud why a frivolous 20-something blogger was being treated as an expert on housing, pointing out the numerous ways in which Yglesias' arguments were flimsy and ill-considered.

But watching Ellickson flay Yglesias, I was most struck by the fact that Yglesias was completely unfazed. Far from being ashamed at his humiliating defeat, Yglesias did not even seem to acknowledge that he was even being defeated or humiliated. He didn't attempt to defend himself. He just? kept talking, as if the numerous arguments that had been made proving him wrong simply didn't exist.

[Idle Hands]

This article is awesome.

[Crusty Juggler]

It is.

[LynchPin1477]

I'd pay for video of that.

[Rufus The Monocled]

"I was most struck by the fact that Yglesias was completely unfazed. Far from being ashamed at his humiliating defeat,"

Because he's, I don't know, retarded? Actually, retards have more dignity.

[Brett L]

TBI survivor.

[Free Society]

He just? kept talking, as if the numerous arguments that had been made proving him wrong simply didn't exist.

A common superpower on the left.

[Bubba Jones]

It largely explains facebook.

[Citizen X]

He just? kept talking, as if the numerous arguments that had been made proving him wrong simply didn't exist.

NPR had Matty as a guest commentator once along with Tyler Cowan, doing some point/counterpoint thing about why economic recovery wasn't happening. Matty talked for the ENTIRE SEGMENT and said nothing. Cowan and even the host couldn't get a word in.

[You ARE a Prog (MJG)]

AHAHAHAHA. Yglesias went up against Ellickson? I don't like to use the word epic, but that sounds epic.

[Lee Genes]

bookmarked, thanks

[Tyler.C]

I want to maje two comments. First i agree with the critique of Vox's fundamental philosophy. However from there the article devolves into a rant about how "obviously these kids make mistakes, because they are to wet in the ear". It places a almost equal amount of importance on "experts" as vox does, but claims their experts are better because of experience. Don't get me wrong, experience is important, but too often it is measured simply by time in the field and not actual hands on work in the field. Some people gain experience much faster, as ive seen first hand in my business where kids who apply themselves because they want to be seen as "experienced" rocket past people who have been working in the field longer.

Also they attack Yglesias on the one spot i could agree with: safty regulations realy do take options away from the poor,l. Acting like we can just ban dillemas people actually face (do i work somewhere dangerous or do i starve), and ignoring the consequences (people starving because they don't have work) is morally reprehensible.

[GILMORE?]

they are to wet in the ear

?

[Dick N. Bimbose (n?e Cooper)]

wet behind the ears.

a.k.a. babies.

[Tyler.C]

Cooper got it... I'm all ways messing up them old sayings

[Horatio]

Yeah it hurt to agree somewhat with inglesias there. The author makes the common conflation of "best opportunity available" and "what you most want to do for a living".

[Mr. Flanders]

Yep. This is where the article started to fall apart for me. Mr. Robinson's response to Yglesias' argument was essentially "you're a bad person" without actually thinking through the argument. Horatio nailed it: Mr. Robinson conflates "best option available" with "what you want to do for a living".

Another journalist is not very good at economics, so unpredictable....

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Why did XKCD, a site that I enjoy regularly, have to go and do this?

Just stay the fuck out of it. You make nerd comments. You don't have to do that.

And I'm sure, one way or the other, he's going to do it again tomorrow.

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*comics

[IndyEleven]

Eh, he provides a lot of high-quality free entertainment though. Just think of it as the cost of admission.

[robc]

Yeah, the forums yesterday were horrible. Because a lot of people felt the same way. Probably about 55% or so, as I figure Clinton is gonna get 45%.

[Lee Genes]

Because xkcd mostly appeals to the condescending, "I fucking love science" crowd.

[Certified Public Asshat]

This. Sorry that it took you this long Password to realize xkcd sucks.

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Ugh. You're probably both right. I still like a lot of the humor.

[commodious cam't contmpla..]

It's insufferable. I quit visiting. I'm sure Munroe is as intelligent as he is educated, but he suffers from the NDT fallacy of equating the gravity of his expertise with gravitas. Listen, you schmuck, you're an entertainer, not a professor. NDT makes his rounds as a media mouthpiece, and you make silly stick figure comics.

[Auric Demonocles]

I actually added it to my blocked site list after that. Here's to slight improved productivity!

I haven't decided if I should also do that for the other comics I follow which posted generic "Go Vote" ones which are almost as bad (although at least XKCD's was more honest about it).

[LynchPin1477]

Some people just cannot help but insert politics into things that are supposed to be escapist. Maybe its because politics has become a form of tabloid entertainment for so many.

[The Fusionist]

There could be something to that idea.

[GOML!]

The site's slogan does say "sarcasm" is a feature.

[Eternal Blue Sky]

XKCD has always done stuff like this. Best to ignore 'em when they do so.

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

God damn it.

[The Fusionist]

As least we still have Lou Reed.

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

And unlike Lou himself, who probably doesn't have much time left in this world, Lou Reed jokes on H&R will never die.

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

Well, my voting site in Bethesda was pretty fuckshop. One of the two scanners was down, so the line was like an hour long. Pretty sure they are about to just give up and declare unanimously for Hillary.

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

FWIW, i voted Obama for Montgomery County school board. Give him the old John Tyler treatment.

[The Fusionist]

Have him preside at an unsuccessful convention to prevent a civil war?

[The Fusionist]

link

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

When Tyler returned to Charles City County, Virginia, following his failed presidency, the local Whigs tried to humiliate him and appointed him to some minor government job, like local road surveyor or something like that.

Of course, Tyler performed the duties of the office zealous vigor, frequently summoning residents to work on repairs and such, that they eventually asked him to resign. Tyler declined, citing the difficulty of obtaining a good government job these days.

[The Fusionist]

"local road surveyor or something like that....frequently summoning residents to work on repairs"

Well, of course, this ain't Somalia!

[Tonio]

I voted for gridlock as much as possible, which is probably the best most of us can do.

I voted for the worst sort of crony capitalist for mayor, but the only viable alternative would have continued the corrupt machine politics of previous administrations. Richmond has a bizarre runoff system for mayor so the goal was to keep the machine guy from winning on the first ballot.

The person stumping for the school board candidate for who I voted was wearing a t-shirt endorsing a major party candidate - ugh. That candidate will probably lose to a machine candidate, so no real harm done.

[Krabappel]

I'm at the Tableau conference in Austin TX and originally they were going to have the guys from freakonomics do a keynote who I generally like but they quietly cancelled at some point and now they have Bill fucking Nye. No thanks.

[Lord Humungus]

From my FB Feed:

Me: Have fun voting for the crook/kook/other of your choice. It's all downhill from here.

Friend: I'd rather be shot by rubber bullets than metal ones.

Me: I'll take neither.

Friend: Sorry, that's not on the ballot.

Me: But the decision to not be part of the immorality is. Sorry, not going to play that game.

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

I think it was Zeb who says that if you give me the choice of a punch in the face or a kick in the nuts, I'll always ask for the third option. I've been using that a lot.

[straffinrun]

I liked it better when we had a choice of the lesser of two weasels.

[robc]

Friend: Sorry, that's not on the ballot.

I had 6 choices on my ballot, at least 2 wouldnt involve me getting shot.

[Auric Demonocles]

These "pragmatic" voters are a result of the bizarrely expanding evil: utilitarianism.

[Lord Humungus]

I should have added the my friend, who is incredibly smart (but not), is a big liberal.

Surprised by his political outlook since when we were kids it was a "fuck the system" attitude. I guess that didn't stick with him.

[straffinrun]

Sounds like an UberFriendche.

[Free Society]

I had a friend that was all "fuck the system" back in the day. He showed up at my doorstep a few months ago wanting to reconnect with me. As it turns out, he's now a full blown SJW that loves the drug the war (after formerly being a drug dealer himself) who thinks drug dealers should be executed and porn should be outlawed and Barack Obama is the bestest president ever. I very politely told him to leave my house and never to come back.

[Red Rocks Dickin Bimbos]

It's funny how these "fuck the system" guys are so entrenched in the status quo now that they don't even realize that telling them to jump off a cliff is an act of rebellion now. Wonder how the upcoming generation of schoolkids is going to react to a constant barrage of Gen-X/Milennial SJW propaganda in the next 10-20 years--my bet is that a lot of them end up becoming hardcore right-wing reactionaries simply because it will be a way to piss off their parents, the way their Boomer grandparents did to the WW2 generation.

[Certified Public Asshat]

I'll share some choice derp:

Guy #1 posts (he's with her): I am already having a panic attack about today and it is only 6:30am!

Response #1: What happened to your extreme confidence that you exuded last week?!?!

Guy #1: I am always right, but would not like this to be first time I am wrong. Plus I'm totally worried about Russia hacking!

[Lord Humungus]

I am always right.

He's living in a mansion and drives a Ferrari from his stock gains?

[Certified Public Asshat]

He lives in a decent house and drives an Infiniti, but I assume it is because he is in debt up to his eye balls.

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

I'm still struggling with this one:

Russian hackers are interfering with the election process in an effort to get Trump elected, but to suggest that the outcome of the election my be tainted by corruption, foul play, fraud, or other wrongdoing is beyond the pale and basically amounts to Trumpkins' calling for insurrection.

Man, from what I've observed, Doublethink looks like a nice way to live. It's not for me, though.

[commodious cam't contmpla..]

Friend: Sorry, that's not on the ballot.

Chigurh: Call it.

Carla Jean: I knowed you was crazy when I saw you sitting there. I knowed exactly what was in store for me.

Chigurh: Call it.

Carla Jean: No. I ain't gonna call it.

Chigurh: Call it.

Carla Jean: The coin don't have no say. It's just you.

Chigurh: Well, I got here the same way the coin did.

[Bubba Jones]

I would argue that Hillary is more likely to use metal bullets.

[Lord Humungus]

+1 Waco, Texas

[Lee Genes]

Balloon Juice, Election Edition - Pantsuit Nation

Here's a picture of my two friends all dressed up for the occasion. Longtime readers will remember Brooke and Holly, and with them are Brooke's two children. They're outside the former fire hall now community center, which is where we vote.

Tell you what- send me your selfies of you in pantsuits voting, and I will post em throughout the day!

[Tonio]

First vomit of the day! One of many, I'm sure.

[Bubba Jones]

Why is the pantsuit not synonymous with Hillary oppressing victims of sexual assault?

[Lord Rollingpin]

One of those ladies is wearing pajamas! Must be voting early.

[The Late P Brooks]

You have an amazing form of government, which would be totally awesome if it were rescued from the Republicans and the alt-right business interests.

Yeah, okay.

[Tonio]

"alt-right business interests"

Uh, yeah.

[commodious cam't contmpla..]

They hate businesses, and they hate whatever the "alt-right" is, so just concatenate the two and that's who's to blame this time around.

Stupid.

[WTF]

An idiot who clearly has no understanding of the constitution at all, but likes to think he does.

[commodious cam't contmpla..]

I'll bet there's a glaring hole where #2 on the BoR is concerned.

[The Fusionist]

"An idiot who clearly has no understanding of the constitution at all, but likes to think he does."

...and there's a vacancy on the Supreme Court! I think Hillary has her next Justice.

[Tornado35235gsg35423ttg3gt3g3g]

This is how i voted in ohio:

President- Jill Stein
Congress - Republican

And hoping trump wins.

[Tornado35235gsg35423ttg3gt3g3g]

Does anyone know why Krugman slobbers all over hillary?

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

Wants a job?

[straffinrun]

He thinks she's a gremlin and wants a multiplier effect?

[Tornado35235gsg35423ttg3gt3g3g]

Lol

[Tonio]

I bet Sug knows!

[Lord Humungus]

nooooooooooooooo!

[SIV]

Among journalists, 96 percent of campaign contributions have gone to Hillary Clinton.

Reason offers a simple payroll deduction.

[SugarFree]

I get it! Because they are all voting for Hillary! Hilarious! Your comedy stylings are so rich and varied!

[Citizen X]

It's hard to focus on coming up with new insane snark when his favorite rooster is giving him that come-hither look.

[Joe M]

Today is election day.

My predictions (based on a desire for maximum schadenfreude and amusement):

1) Donald Trump squeaks by 270-268 in the Electoral College (key wins: New Hampshire and the 2nd district of Maine), but Clinton wins the popular vote 47% to 45%.
2) Evan McMullin comes in second in Utah
3) Gary Johnson comes in second in New Mexico and Alaska.
4) Gary Johnson gets 6% of the popular vote.
5) Jill Stein gets 1.5% of the popular vote.
6) All other third party/independent candidates get a combined 0.5% of the vote.
7) Gnashing of teeth by media and Democrats goes on for years, delighting millions.

[Crusty Juggler]

Number 8 is gnashing of teeth by Republicans and Conservatives for years, annoying everyone.

[Free Society]

No, I'd enjoy their crying too.

[robc]

I am hoping for #1 and a rogue elector or three to throw the race into the house.

In your case, it would take one.

Shreek could still win his Jeb! bet.

[SIV]

How does Jeb! get in? The House can only chose from the top 3.

[robc]

SIV are you really this stupid about how the EC works?

Trump gets 270, Clinton gets 268 (as in #1 above) today.

On Dec 19th, 269 Trump EC voters vote Trump/Pence, 268 Clinton EC voters vote Clinton/Kaine and one rogue Trump elector votes Jeb/Pence.

Pence is veep.

Since no prez got 270, the top 3 go to the house. The House can consider Trump, Clinton and Bush.

[Juvenile Bluster]

My desire for maximum schadenfreude and entertainment involves Clinton getting to 270, but ending up at 269 due to that Washington elector keeping his word and not voting for her at the electoral college.

[Free Society]

You're giving me wood.

[Joe M]

I agree, but there's no likely combination for Clinton to get exactly 270.

[Dick N. Bimbose (n?e Cooper)]

There is one that gets them both to 269.

[R C Dean]

Those states that dole out electors by district make it painfully possible.

[Lord Humungus]

I'm a second order Trump supporter: won't vote for him but I hope he wins for the ultimate lols.

A Hillary presidency will also have it's moments - waiting for the barf and faint dinner with heads of state and the inevitable falling down the stairs photographs.

[Joe M]

Same here, but damn if your Clinton prophecies don't have me chuckling.

[EDG reppin LBC]

The wife and I voted for the lols.

Never thought about barfing, fainting, bowel evacuating, falling down incidents from the pantsuit. Now I kind of want her to win. For even more lols.

[commodious cam't contmpla..]

Her rapid post-loss decline like Sauron after losing the ring would be entertaining to behold.

I bet she dies within a year if she loses, some combination of neurological degeneration and acute alcoholism.

[BigT]

the inevitable falling down the stairs photographs

Reviving Chevy Chase's 'career'??

[You ARE a Prog (MJG)]

I saw video of her coming down the stairs of her campaign plane the other day. A tumble down the stairs is gonna happen, right? It has to.

[Red Rocks Dickin Bimbos]

1) Donald Trump squeaks by 270-268 in the Electoral College (key wins: New Hampshire and the 2nd district of Maine), but Clinton wins the popular vote 47% to 45%

I actually think the reverse is more likely, just because it looks like at this point Trump needs to flip PA, MI, or WI to win it, but if he gets even one of them, then he's probably on his way to a pretty strong popular vote victory as well.

That said, it's going to be a hell of a lot closer than anyone ever suspected, even at this point in the election, and will come down to one or two states.

[Joe M]

Winning NH and NV are more likely than any of those three.

[Red Rocks Dickin Bimbos]

PA's a possibility depending on how much ballot-stuffing goes on in Philadelphia this time around. if African-American turnout remains as depressed as it's been so far, and the blue-collar white vote goes up about 5% or so, then Trump's chances are a lot better.

[R C Dean]

Philadelphia will manufacture as many votes as needed to give the state to Hillary, mark my words.

[R C Dean]

I wouldn't rule out WI. Scott Walker has shown the union machine there is very beatable.

[SFC B]

After Rand, Walker was my preferred choice when the GOP started. I lived in WI when he was first elected and during the union-busting fight. For whatever other flaws he has the dude is an even keeled technocrat. I was quite disappointed when he dropped out early, but, looking back it was probably the smartest move he could make and it kept his powder dry and name relatively clean.

[BigT]

And the intense last minute attention to MI may put that state in play.

[Ken Shultz]

"Among journalists, 96 percent of campaign contributions have gone to Hillary Clinton."

And Hillary Clinton spent it hiring people to instigate violence at Trump events--so journalists could write articles about how Donald Trump supporters are a bunch of brown shirts.

Incidentally, if this is representative of the press as a whole, and 96% of the press supports Hillary, doesn't that suggest that if Hillary Clinton is elected, only 4% of journalists covering Hillary Clinton will actually need freedom of the press?

I mean, theoretically, some of the journalists who gave her their hard-earned money might criticize her anyway, but, in reality, isn't it hard to read that last bit with a straight face?

P.S. In addition to getting money from the journalists who cover her, Hillary Clinton also accepted money from foreign governments.

[Free Society]

P.S. In addition to getting money from the journalists who cover her, Hillary Clinton also accepted money from foreign governments.

Now now, there's nothing in the Constitution about not accepting gifts from foreign governments without Congressional approval, setting aside that one clause that deals with exactly that. So no big deal.

[Ken Shultz]

Some things are so obviously awful, our ancestors may have thought it unnecessary to make them illegal.

Is there another country in the world that wouldn't throw its foreign minister in prison for accepting money from foreign governments?

[OneOut]

Yes. China.

In China they would put a bullet inn the back of xir/ze's head and send their family a bill for the bullet.

[Domestic Dissident]

Among journalists, 96 percent of campaign contributions have gone to Hillary Clinton.

Zero cheers for our "independent", representative, fair and balanced media.

[AddictionMyth]

LOL - I get that.

[The Late P Brooks]

OK, going dark - see y'all tomorrow.

That's so cute, Switzy. You really seem to think there's going to be a tomorrow.

[Joe M]

"7 scenarios for how election night might play out."

That NPR article is all kinds of fucked up. They throw around numbers without context, and they're just wrong in a couple spots.

[AddictionMyth]

I'm not voting - it's rigged anyway. But when Hillary wins, I'm rioting with the Trumpkins. Might be our last chance before Hillary sics her police state goons on us.

[That's A Bingo!]

I'm not voting - it's rigged anyway. -- Illuminati figured this stuff out months ago.

[Free Society]

Five alleged ISIS members have been arrested in Germany.

Merkel is a genius! She invited in millions of migrants to destroy Europe, but in reality her plan was to lure unsuspecting terrorists to a honey pot in Germany, while destroying Europe at the same time. BRILLIANT.

[AddictionMyth]

Genius - start a 'war on drugs' or 'war on terror' and then invite the ensuing refugees into your country and exploit them for sex and labor. And then claim you had nothing to do with it and call it an 'invasion' and round 'em up and kick em out, exploiting them for sex and labor at the same time. BRILLIANT.

[R C Dean]

I think you've got it backwards on who is being exploited for sex and labor. Hint: it ain't the "refugees".

[Free Society]

Did you see what the little boy at the swimming pool was wearing? He was bound to cause a 'sex emergency' for some hapless refugee.

[AddictionMyth]

Trump will protect us from the illegals raping us and muslims killing us. And he will restore law and order to the inner cities because they're killing each other. So much killing, and it's gonna end lickety-split. Only Trump can fix it.

[straffinrun]

You're funnier when you say "fuck kids with Down's Syndrome."

[Citizen X]

Also, when someone points out that fat is better for you than sugar and he loses his goddamned mind.

[(((Renegade)))]

I would vote to acquit.

[Lee Genes]

To finish the job, the suspect reportedly fetched a sledgehammer and drove it into his victim, before taking a nap.

Tarantino-worthy

[R C Dean]

I had a little sledgehammer work last week (8 lbs, long handle). I hadn't previously thought about what a devastating weapon it would be, but I'd rather have it than an edged weapon, I believe. Would need to practice - it would be hard to control in a fight.

[WTF]

It would be effective used like a great axe - keep it moving, generally in a figure-8 pattern as you strike, because full stops and starts would be too slow. You would need to be very strong and practice a lot, like the housecarls of Harold Godwinson.

[The Late P Brooks]

Now the besieged Comey - under fire for his surprise letters to Congress about Hillary Clinton's controversial emails that have thrown the presidential election into chaos - is about to take another hit, this time on his palatial $3 million-plus home.

Comey bought the estate on more than three acres not far from where Martha Stewart used to live in ritzy Westport, Connecticut, for $3,050,000 in August 2010.

That hardly qualifies as "palatial" in Westport. It's probably a '50s split level ranch with a two car garage.

[R C Dean]

Here's a pic. Pretty nice.

http://www.alternet.org/electi.....onnecticut

[widget]

I'll be voting NO on CA Proposition 60 today. That's the porn condom law. You're welcome.

[Free Society]

THANK YOU. No one wants to see that.

[Lee Genes]

Wrong, there's always someone who wants to see that.

[Tornado35235gsg35423ttg3gt3g3g]

What about the Tom Steyer prop where i need to save you from smoking for your own good?

[Sevo]

And to prove he's serious, he's willing to steal your money to prove it!

[Lee Genes]

In reference to a weekend discussion about Heidegger:

Ann Coulter goes full blood and soil populist.

If only people with at least 4 grandparents born in America were voting, Trump would win in a 50-state landslide.

[Juice]

At least 4?

[You ARE a Prog (MJG)]

God help you if you're a daughter of the revolution with a grandparent stupid enough to have married a foreigner.

[Bubba Jones]

I don't get a vote (and my kids) because my dad married a foreigner while serving in the army?

[Bubba Jones]

"at least"?

[WTF]

Great-grandparents are technically grandparents, I guess.

[Juvenile Bluster]

I'm willing to accept a lot from my prog friends. The Hillary love, the idiocy, everything.

I just unfriended someone for sharing an Andy Borowitz post.

I have standards, dammit.

[(((Renegade)))]

"Andy Borowitz is to humor what Chris Christie is to anorexia."

[Juvenile Bluster]

I'm stealing that.

[Crusty Juggler]

After tonight how long will the election coverage last? I assume the loser and the loser's lemmings will bitch about losing for at least three months.

[Password: pode$ta]

The coverage is one thing. We have at least 4 years to deal with the aftershock. Hell, some circles are still crying about Bush 16 years later.

[PurityDiluting]

Media will be concern trolling the Republican party at least until the 2018 mid-terms and probably non-stop through the 2020 election

[RBS]

Campain 2020 starts tomorrow!

[Tyler.C]

Looser, If you think it starts tomorrow, you are already behind...

[You ARE a Prog (MJG)]

TrumpTV will peddle conspiracy theories until 2019, when Donald or Ivanka starts an Independent campaign to punish the traitorous GOP.

[Heroic Mulatto]

More concern-trolling over 'disenfranchised white men'.

[AddictionMyth]

Wow no clown rap or screed against the "Joos"? You feeling ok, Hero?

[Password: pode$ta]

YOU LEAVE JUGGALOS ALONE

[Heroic Mulatto]

You're confused. You're the antisemite. What's the matter? Coming down from a high, you fucking junkie piece of shit?

[AddictionMyth]

LOL too bad Trump won't be elected. He could be like his hero Duterte in the Philippines and let you shoot people in the street for being 'confused' and 'junkies'. Sorry you stupid fucking anarcho-Trumpkin Nazi. You lost. Learn to appreciate what we gave you and don't make us regret our generosity.

[Heroic Mulatto]

How many times do are you going to do this willfully obtuse schtick?

[AddictionMyth]

Sorry freak, you got nuthin'.

[Heroic Mulatto]

So now you're on the non-sequitur schtick. You usually resort to that when you paint yourself into a corner through your own stupidity.

[straffinrun]

HM, don't fall for it. If it's an actual human, it's own existence is punishment enough.

[Heroic Mulatto]

It's fun making the puppet dance.

[UnCivilServant]

It's fun making the puppet dance.

Finally an issue where I agree with HM without reservation.

[Fatthew Piglesias]

"Finally an issue where I agree with HM without reservation."

Dat ass?

[UnCivilServant]

Dat ass?

No, we differ on what makes a proper rear end. I find his preferred volume to be excessive and disproportionate.

[Free Society]

White people are becoming a minority in their own societies. GOOD because fuck white people, amarite? /DiversityIsOurStrength

[Heroic Mulatto]

You're falling for it, hook, line, and sinker.

Don't be that guy.

[Crusty Juggler]

Exactly. Don't play their game.

[Free Society]

Falling for what? The clear statistical trends?

[Juice]

"Their own"?

[Free Society]

Yes, societies predominantly inhabited by and institutions built by, European descended peoples that they intentionally passed onto their descendants. You know, kind of like how the Japanese have "their own" society or the Iranians have "their own" society, or the Kenyans have "their own" society. I know it must be painful for you to hear that different people, from different cultures with different histories would be....different.

[Hail Rataxes]

Not really, bro. Some of us actually believe that different people are different, even if their ancestors were born in the same place.

[Free Society]

Not sure what your point is. That I'll tend to be just as different from people whom I share culture and history with as I am with people whom I share no culture or history with at all? That would be an interesting claim to make because it's empirically false.

Of course there's an anecdotal exception to just about any statistical trend, but look at a few thousand or millions of anecdotes and then you can see what is and what isn't.

[AddictionMyth]

Stupid Trumpkins - we gave you the most prosperous country in human history, but it wasn't enough for you. Consumed by greed and envy of people who have a little more, you now want to burn it all down. You might very well be left with nothing. Learn to be grateful before it's too late. Hopefully Hillary will take pity on you.

[The Late P Brooks]

Many, many moons ago, I saw a car in a parking lot with a bumper sticker which said:

DON'T VOTE. IT ONLY ENCOURAGES THEM.

I took that advice to heart.

And never fear, I reserve the right to complain, long and loud.

[Michael]

I've had some friends and family pull the whole "if you don't vote you don't get to complain" routine on me before, and I've always responded that they have it precisely backwards and that it's akin to telling a rape victim they don't get to complain because they didn't fight back. It's resulted in some good deer-in-headlights impressions.

[AddictionMyth]

Stupid, stupid anarcho-Trumpkin Nazis. Where oh where did you go wrong ??

[Free Society]

In case anyone missed it

Libertarian Bill Weld: Hillary Clinton has gotten 'a pretty raw deal'

He called Trump "totally unfit to be president" and said Clinton was "a perfectly reputable, professional, responsible candidate for president of the United States and deserves to be treated as such."
"Frankly, I think Mrs. Clinton has been receiving a pretty raw deal," Weld said.
Weld and his running mate, Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson, failed to qualify for the national debates. He has since aimed his fire almost entirely at Trump and has repeatedly defended Clinton, or at least deferred on attacking her.

[Password: pode$ta]

Yeah it's all those alt-right business interests keeping H->er down.

[AddictionMyth]

Weld is a hero and a patriot. I voted for Johnson only because Johnson basically said he'd let Weld run the show. (And because I couldn't figure out how to write in Rand.)

Jill Stein approves this message.

[UnCivilServant]

AddictionMyth|11.8.16 @ 9:23AM| block | mute | #

I'm not voting

AddictionMyth|11.8.16 @ 9:46AM| block | mute | #

... I voted for Johnson

Of course, remembering what you said a whole 23 minutes ago is a big mental chore.

[AddictionMyth]

You're a smart guy. Maybe Trump will appoint you to the House un-American Activities Committee and you can root out the voter liars in our midsts.

[Citizen X]

Maybe Weight Watchers will work for you, this time!

[Lord Humungus]

And that's why I'm not voting GJ/BW this time 'round.

[SIV]

And all you cucks voted for this guy !

[The Late P Brooks]

Stupid Trumpkins - we gave you the most prosperous country in human history, but it wasn't enough for you. Consumed by greed and envy of people who have a little more, you now want to burn it all down.

Dude- you really need to lay off the paint thinner.

[AddictionMyth]

"Trump wasn't a modern day Hitler! That's crazy talk!"

Let the Trumpalogia begin.

[Red Rocks Dickin Bimbos]

Consumed by greed and envy of people who have a little more, you now want to burn it all down.

LOL--we truly have reached a realignment of political values if liberals are scolding "conservatives" for wealth-envy.

[The Late P Brooks]

said Clinton was "a perfectly reputable, professional, responsible candidate for president of the United States and deserves to be treated as such."

He didn't say "most qualified". What a misogynist.

[Mickey Rat]

Weld forgot the "dis-", "un-", "ir-" apparently.

[Ken Shultz]

If Hillary wins, being a libertarian will become an anachronism--so long as she's in office.

Electing Hillary Clinton to the White House despite her disregarding the rule of law effectively gives her a mandate to disregard the rule of law, and the rule of law is the essential foundation without which libertarianism has no relevance.

"Congress shall make no law . . . " What's the First Amendment worth without the rule of law?

With Hillary in the White House, the essential question will not be a libertarian argument about what the law should be. It will be an alibertarian (as in asexual) argument about whether the law should apply to Hillary Clinton--with the answers coming from Hillary Clinton herself and the press that adores her.

She'll have executive privilege, the power to pardon, the bully pulpit, the DoJ--and probably control of the Senate, too.

Libertarian questions about what the law should be have no resonance in a world in which the central question is whether the President is subject to the rule of law, hence, libertarianism will become an anachronism so long as Hillary is in office. Arguing about policy will become about as relevant as playing with our ding-a-lings.

The only libertarian thing of consequence left to do if Hillary becomes President will be to unify behind the Republican Party to take control of Congress to oppose her rule and ultimately remove Hillary Clinton from office. Once she's gone, being libertarian will start to matter again.

[T.F.G.]

"libertarianism will become an anachronism so long as Hillary is in office"

And also if she doesn't win.

[Ken Shultz]

"In all, governments and corporations involved in the arms deals approved by Clinton's State Department have delivered between $54 million and $141 million to the Clinton Foundation as well as hundreds of thousands of dollars in payments to the Clinton family, according to foundation and State Department records".

----Mother Jones

"Hillary Clinton Oversaw US Arms Deals to Clinton Foundation Donors"

http://www.motherjones.com/pol.....arms-deals

Did Donald Trump accept money from foreign governments while he was the Secretary of State?

Why would the consequences of electing Hillary Clinton to the White House after disregarding the rule of law be the same as the consequences of electing someone who has not abused public office for personal gain?

[R C Dean]

Libertarianism has been an anachronism since FDR.

[Ken Shultz]

Asking what laws the President should follow becomes an anachronism when the pertinent question is whether the President should have to follow the law.

And in a world where disregarding the rule of law gets you elected to be President, whether the President should bother to follow the law is the pertinent question.

[Brett L]

So, bad news is, I have to watch the kids in the middle of the day while the wife goes to the doctor, so it will be like 1pm Eastern before I can get my liver warmed up.

[Warty]

I can't believe I actually voted. What kind of asshole does that?

[Lord Humungus]

Say it ain't so, Joe Warty!

[Certified Public Asshat]

The only posts I have seen from Warty recently has been to occasionally stop in and shit on the idea of voting. Then, he goes and does this.

[WTF]

You don't actually realize what Warty means by "voted".

[SugarFree]

I did too. Mostly because I have the day off, though. And the polling station was near the only good bagel place.

[UnCivilServant]

Gee around here, they hide polling stations in buildings on unisgned roads tucked away off backstreets. Almost as if they don't want people to remember it's there.

[Sevo]

In SF, there are places handing out freebies 'if you vote', so you can vote for free shit and get it, too.

[SugarFree]

Cockrings, bongs, minty condoms, bum repellant and ceviche, I presume?

[Brett L]

Well, I did get to vote against Charlie Crist AND Marco Rubio. So I feel pretty good about myself today.

[Idle Hands]

Loser. I have cooler things to do with my time.

[Idle Hands]

Next you're going to tell me that you took the free sticker.

[SugarFree]

He did. And you won't believe what happens next.

[Charles Easterly]

He fixes the TV?

[Sevo]

Never gets old.

[Jimmy Free Trade Pirate]

It's okay Warty. It happens to the best of us. =D

[You ARE a Prog (MJG)]

Good job. Now everything is YOUR FAULT.

[commodious cam't contmpla..]

I can't believe I actually voted. What kind of asshole does that?

As long as you feel like taking a shower afterward, it's forgivable.

If you wear that fucking sticker and go for a cup of coffee, you're right out.

[AddictionMyth]

"For Hillary doth know that in the day ye vote of the Trump, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as the Jews." - Heroic

[Heroic Mulatto]

So you remembered that you're an antisemite now.

Good. You own your bigotry.

[Domestic Dissident]

I'm pretty sure Weigel isn't an antisemitie. He's a rather standard-issue Marx and Alinsky worshipping Jew.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Funny. I don't remember those names when I was studying for my bar mitzvah. I do remember "Moses." "Aaron," "Miriam," and something about the "Tent of Meeting," though.

[Lee Genes]

You don't wear your Tefillin with quotes from "Rules for Radicals"?

[Drave Robber]

All 1786 who have filed a statement of candidacy

Question: how did Johnson get to the top of an alphabetical list?

[straffinrun]

Buttocks, Sydney's Volumptuous.

[Tonio]

Nyarlathotep, Crawling Chaos The
Nuts, Deez
Nuts, Ceedeez

[robc]

President Emperor Caesar.

The most honest candidate on the list.

[UnCivilServant]

Hey! I'm not running this year, who wrote me in on the ballot?

[Drave Robber]

#1618: Trolls, Why So Many

[AddictionMyth]

I'm honestly scared for the Trumpkins. They will soon gain a new perspective on the guns they bought to round up illegals and restore law and order to the inner cities, and neutralize dreams of jihad while they are just a sparkle in a young muslim's eye.

[Sevo]

Fuck you.

[Domestic Dissident]

That comment would almost sound like a threat if it wasn't coming from Dave Weigel, the biggest fucking pussy on the face of the earth.

[Citizen X]

It's not coming from Dave Weigel, Mikey, you ass.

[Sevo]

Fuck you.

[Sevo]

http://www.sfgate.com/entertai.....598201.php

[straffinrun]

I'll assume that wasn't the squirrels.

[Sevo]

Actually it was, but I get blamed for accidents that go bad, I'll take credit for the other sort...

[The Late P Brooks]

I can't believe I actually voted. What kind of asshole does that?

The only real interest I have in this vast shitshow is the hope that one of the county commissioners
gets bounced out of office. Because he's a slimy cocksucker, and he should be running a cash register in a convenience store.

If he loses, the replacement will, more likely than not, be worse.

[The Late P Brooks]

Based opn his performance thus far, I'd say it's even money Addictionmyth misses tonight's "Hillabration" because he's in the emergency room being treated for an overdose of paint thinner fumes.

[Ken Shultz]

Incidentally, when's the last time anybody's seen Hihn?

Was he banned or something?

[Lee Genes]

He probably stroked out during a LP meeting.

[Citizen X]

He is nearly one hundred years old.

[Cdr Lytton]

Drink early! Drink often!

[R C Dean]

Silver lining?

The word is that Arpaio will likely lose today. As ever, depends on turnout; if the younger voters don't show, he wins (and legal pot loses); if they do, he loses (and legal pot wins).

My Dem partisan colleagues are befuddled by this. I am embarrased to report that at least one colleague is doing the Pantsuit Challenge (or whatever the deranged pro-Hillary supporters are calling it).

[R C Dean]

Dean out for the day. Y'all have fun.

[commodious cam't contmpla..]

I went to bed last night listening to rainpatter via youtube. Usually it takes only ~hour to wake up enough to shut it off and then I'm out again, but the ten hour clip ran for four hours before I shut it off. I don't remember that part, but I remember having a dream in which I was bunked up in a very posh multi-story house just off the coast, watching a torrential downpour outside and the water rising... and rising.. and rising, until it was lapping at the foundation and I realized I had to get up to the top floor. I woke up around the time it crested the second story, while I was looking over the balcony wondering what next.

Seems appropriate for the eve of election day.

[Hayeksplosives]

I am sitting at my computer at work with my Bose noise-cancelling headphones on playing a shuffled mix of Fastball, Badfinger, REM, Audioslave, Tal Bachman, Third Day, and Delerious.

I still can't quite escape the election chatter around me.

But it does help...The fact that I get to leave at 2 for a med appointment will be the highlight of the day.

[Lord Humungus]

I'm listening to Deafheaven - loud enough to drown out my co-workers.

Leaving at 2:30 for an appointment - and planning to workout tonight. I've been having my best gains ever in my 16 years of off-on weightlifting. New routine using hypertrophy mixed in with low volume max reps. Squatting, Deadlifts, and Benching are the main focus.

After that - a gin & tonic, red wine, and a movie.

[commodious cam't contmpla..]

Are you planning to challenge Warty as dominant alpha male of H&R?

[Lord Humungus]

I am, after all, Lord Humungus

[Hayeksplosives]

Deafheaven, eh? Might have to give it a try.

Enjoy the endorphin that will follow your workout. And the mind erasing G&T.

Cheers!

[Lord Humungus]

It's not quite Alcest in beauty - but sometimes it all comes together.

*note - metal isn't my usual thing

[Citizen X]

Blood. Death. Screams, gunshots. A soft tapping penetrated the fog of slumber, slowly dissipating her visions of glory. Helicopter blades, the hiss of the gas canisters-

"Madam?" The tapping, repeated, insistent.

Janet Reno surfaced into consciousness like a corpse in a swimming pool. It had been Waco, again. She struggled to hold on to the memory of the flames, the beautiful flames, the tiny figures curling to ash within them. She groaned. Marta would pay for the interruption.

"What is it? Why did you wake me?"

"You have a veeseetor," her servant said. "Es... es Mook, madam."

Fuck, she thought, suddenly wide awake. What is Her toy doing here? She rose from the stained mattress, pulling the robe closed around her bulk. Cursed as she stumbled over the cattle prod - yet another indignity; she'd yet to uncover who started the rumor that she had Parkinson's, but it wouldn't do to look unsteady, even in her own chambers. Marta, as usual, flinched back as she opened the door. The servant reeked of the aloe that shone on her arms and neck, where the cigar burns had yet to heal.

[Citizen X]

Down the hallway, past the niches where resided her precious artefacts - shell casings from a certain knoll in Dallas, Eva Braun's panties, Koresh's charred skull. Mook crouched in the parlor. She could smell the decay of him as soon as she entered the room. Herself must be getting bored, Reno thought, on seeing the cadaverous messenger. Tight leather straps showed through tears in his ill-fitting suit, and a cicatrice bulged at the top of each thigh. One eye was bloodshot and threatened to roll back; the other was cloudy and dead. He clutched a long box made of some bone-white material - come to think of it, knowing Her tastes, it probably WAS bone.

"Out with it, Mook. Why are you here?"

His good eye rolled in her direction. "A giffft." He stopped as if remembering. "And and and a promisssse... you made."

Reno frowned. A promise? She struggled to recall... so many oaths she swore then, so many sacrifices. Had she truly forgotten part of the ritual? She smelled burning, and remembered her dream.

Suddenly, Mook leaped across the parlor. He hissed as he flung open the box. "YOU OWE!" he screamed. Reno swung a heavy arm up to crush his skull... and stopped, for she had seen what was in the box. A buzzing, seething darkness, blacker than black.

Her muscles froze. Even her heart seemed to stop.

The darkness rushed from the box and took her.

[commodious cam't contmpla..]

Love it.

[Lord Humungus]

*polite applause*

[SugarFree]

See. This is what we need here, not more prattle about hurt butts and high-pitched whines.

[commodious cam't contmpla..]

SF is today's Lovecraft, and Lovecraft spawned a sprawling cottage industry of writers exploring his universe. Y'all should publish an anthology.

[Citizen X]

To be fair, we could always use more twerking videos, too.

[Tonio]

Nice, Citzy.

Sug, stay tuned. I've started writing some things which dovetail with your universe.

[SugarFree]

Excellent.

[Tonio]

Thanks. I published my first one here a few days ago, but royally messed up the formatting (was composing in a text editor more suited to coding). I've got a good draft going that finally introduces Wartyvision.

[SugarFree]

I do everything in notepad so it won't drag any weird formatting.

Where is the first try? I missed it.

[Tonio]

Thanks for asking. Linky!

I used Notepad, too. My problem is too many breaks; not too few.

No. You know how badly that went last time.

That poor kid is still living in a group home

and sleeps with the lights on. That cost us

big bucks for the settlement.

Should have read:

No. You know how badly that went last time. That poor kid is still living in a group home and sleeps with the lights on. That cost us big bucks for the settlement.

I have the Notepad WordWrap feature turned on. That should be off, right?

[SugarFree]

Yes, turn it off. Annoying, but necessary.

[Tonio]

Also, I know the Warty Hugeman works are archived somewhere offsite. What about your other works?

You willing to host fanfic, or can you recommend a cheap and easy way for me to put my stuff out there?

[SugarFree]

The rest is here: http://hrsugarfree.blogspot.com

[SugarFree]

I could put it up for you, but setting up a site through blogger takes just minutes.

[Tonio]

K. Thanks.

Your writings mean more than I can possibly say.

[Citizen X]

Bring it on. The American political scene cries out for the horror-porn treatment, the more the better.

[Crusty Juggler]

Beautiful.

[Lee Genes]

Congratulations. I can see the cloud over Norfolk from here.

*searches for holy relics*

[commodious cam't contmpla..]

Cato's Gene Healy gives a silver lining to 2016: maybe executive overreach becomes a staple concern for people worried about "the other guy" taking up the reins. During the conversation he claims that Obama, according to unnamed staffers, has privately expressed reservations about leaving future presidents with a loaded gun, given the amount of authoritarian privilege he's exercised during his tenure. Has anyone heard about this?

[You ARE a Prog (MJG)]

In 2012, there was a bit of scrambling about setting protocols for drone warfare and the like in case Romney got into office.

[commodious cam't contmpla..]

I meant the Obama line in particular. I doubt the left is going to be in any mood to establish limits on Hillary's power, and the right will be too busy squabbling over its loss to push for Congressional revanchism.

I guess it's not unbelievable that Obama would say something like that. He's a narcissist: he obviously believes he exercised his powers diligently. But not everyone can be as wise as Obama.

[You ARE a Prog (MJG)]

His narcissism, and I imagine he still dislikes the Clintons. That makes such a line believable.

On the other hand, hard to believe Obama recognizes that he's acted way out of line. So it could be BS.

[Tonio]

Congress has traditionally been very wary of executive overreach, even when the president is of the same party as the majority.

[Kurmudgeonly Kristen]

That is some wishful thinking, right there. We've all witnessed, first-hand, time and again, the shortsightedness of partisans idiots.

[Kurmudgeonly Kristen]

I've already logged out of Facederp for the foreseeable future.

Tonight will be the Weather Channel's serene nature scenes set to soothing muzak.

[Lord Humungus]

Bob Ross, ftw

[Timon 19]

The Weather Channel hasn't been soothing in a decade. They went all-in on reality programming and CLIMATE CHANGE!!!!!!

Weather Nation is more serene.

[Kurmudgeonly Kristen]

WC has improved greatly since they decided to intersperse reality shows with live weather.They have some really good quality shows on there. And I love Weather Underground.

[Gleep Glop]

"You have an amazing form of government, which would be totally awesome if it were rescued from the Republicans and the alt-right business interests."

So I guess people who think this way are advocating for a one-party government?

[Gleep Glop]

"You have an amazing form of government, which would be totally awesome if it were rescued from the Republicans and the alt-right business interests."

So I guess people who think this way are advocating for a one-party government?

[Kurmudgeonly Kristen]

I can't take the bombardment of every fucking person saying "go vote!!", like I'm a three-year-old that needs to be reminded to wiper her ass.

[commodious cam't contmpla..]

Ass wipers...

*grabs graph paper, sketches madly*

[You ARE a Prog (MJG)]

Find Your Polling Place Now!

[Dick N. Bimbose (n?e Cooper)]

Find Your Pooping Place Now!

[Pan Zagloba]

Just get a maple leaf flag pin or patch or something. If they think you're Canadian, they'll probably stop bothering you.

[Voros McCracken]

I'm going with, "I'm a convicted felon, I'm not allowed to vote."

[Kurmudgeonly Kristen]

I'm in Virginia - that doesn't apply anymore!!

[commodious cam't contmpla..]

New bucket list item: scuba diving Crater Lake.

[commodious cam't contmpla..]

Crater Clear Lake

[UnCivilServant]

lucky you.

[Dick N. Bimbose (n?e Cooper)]

My kids are all-in on Hillary, but they're young. And dumb.

[Rasilio]

My two boys (14 and 16) are both confirmed libertarians at this point, my older daughter (14) doesn't seem to have much of a political identity or interest in it but I fear she may be heading down the path of SJWhood, my younger daughter at 8 doesn't have a clue yet

[Dick N. Bimbose (n?e Cooper)]

And when I say young, I mean like 13 and 9.

[Playa Manhattan.]

My 2 year old is definitely on the path to SJW. He cries whenever he doesn't get what he wants.

[Mr Drew]

My daughter ran for president of the third grade on the platform of not telling anyone what to do.

#winning

[Lord Rollingpin]

It's not to late to start over.

[Warty]

I'm not really back. Still too busy with a bunch of shit I don't want to be busy with.

[Zero Sum Game]

Children are edible.

Kidding aside, it shouldn't be so hard to bring them back around either. Even kids can understand the value of free speech. They can understand that a warmonger is bad, and Hillary's got a lot of blood on her hands. They can be made to understand what a demagogue is and why they're bad.

It's harder to convince them about gun rights because they're naive in their youth. That takes time and maturity and thought.

[bibo ergo sum]

I larfed, Playa

[Dick N. Bimbose (n?e Cooper)]

-1 Canadian (but good)