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Fact Check: Trump Is Indeed a Big Whiny Baby

A selection of Trump's finest whines shows that the president's charge holds up.

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Yesterday President Obama responded to Donald Trump's pre-emptive complaints about an election "rigged" against him, saying the Republican presidential nomineee should "stop whining and go try to make his case to get votes." Obama added that "if you start whining before the game's even over, if whenever things are going badly for you and you lose, you start blaming somebody else, then you don't have what it takes to be in this job."

Is Obama right that Trump is a big whiny baby? After a careful, dispassionate examination of the facts, I am compelled to conclude that the president's charge holds up. A selection of Trump's finest whines:

1. In 2012, 2013, and 2014, Trump complained that the Emmys were rigged against him and his show The Apprentice. "The Emmys are all politics," he tweeted in 2012. "That's why, despite nominations, The Apprentice never won—even though it should have many times over." He repeated the complaint the next year: "I should have many Emmys for The Apprentice if the process were fair." And the year after that: "Which is worse and which is more dishonest—the #Oscars or the Emmys?"

2. Trump began a July 2015 interview on MSNBC's Morning Joe by complaining that the show's hosts were not talking about him enough: "I was just listening to you, and you know we all love you and Mika [Brzezinski], but I was listening to you talking about Bush and Rubio and a couple of others, and you sort of forgot to mention my name, even though I'm creaming them all in the polls. I don't understand what you're doing." Co-host Joe Scarborough was astonished. "What are you talking about?" he asked, laughing in disbelief. "What are you talking about, Donald? How thin is your skin? I've been talking about you for a week."

3. At the Republican presidential debate in August 2015, co-moderator Megyn Kelly of Fox News brought up Trump's derogatory comments about women he does not like ("fat pig," "dog," "slob," "disgusting animal," etc.), asking how they reflect on his temperament. "Oftentimes it's fun, it's kidding," he replied, saying he has no time for political correctness. "Honestly Megyn, if you don't like it, I'm sorry," he added. "I've been very nice to you, although I could probably maybe not be, based on the way you have treated me. But I wouldn't do that." Later he described Kelly as unhinged, saying "you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever." He called her a "lightweight" and a "bimbo, " and he announced that he would protest her treatment of him by boycotting future debates on Fox.

4. After Ted Cruz won the Iowa caucus in February, Trump complained that "the media has not covered my long-shot great finish in Iowa fairly." After Cruz won the Wisconsin primary in April, the Trump campaign complained that "the party bosses" were "attempting to steal the nomination from Mr. Trump," using Cruz as a "Trojan horse." After Cruz won all 34 of Colorado's delegates, Trump complained that "the system is rigged; it's crooked." His convention manager said the Cruz campaign had used "Gestapo tactics." Conservative commentator Ben Stein, a Trump supporter, said the billionaire bully's campaign had simply failed to understand the rules for securing delegates in Colorado, adding that the candidate's "whiny bitchiness" made him look like "a big sulky baby."

5. Irked by questions about his fundraising for veterans, Trump called a press conference last June to denounce political reporters as "disgusting" and "among the most dishonest people that I have ever met." Saying "the press should be ashamed of themselves," he called one reporter a "sleaze" and another "a real beauty."

6. In an interview with Fox Business host Lou Dobbs a couple of weeks later, Trump complained that no one has ever been more poorly treated by the press. "Ronald Reagan went through a lot, but people say it wasn't as bad as this," he said. "I'll have something where I think it's a big victory day, and I'll read about it the next day in the newspapers, and it's, like, terrible news….The dishonesty of the media is beyond belief. It's beyond belief….I will tell you, I've never seen more unfair press coverage."

7. After Khizr Khan, father of a Muslim soldier killed in Iraq, suggested during a speech at the Democratic National Convention in July that Trump should bone up on the Constitution, Trump said Khan "has no right to stand in front of millions of people and claim I have never read the Constitution (which is false) and say many other inaccurate things." Trump added on Twitter: "Mr. Khan, who does not know me, viciously attacked me from the stage of the DNC and is now all over T.V. doing the same—Nice!"

8. "She spent hundreds of millions of dollars on negative ads on me, many of which are absolutely untrue," Trump complained during his first debate with Hillary Clinton. "It's not nice, and I don't deserve that. But it's certainly not a nice thing that she's done. It's hundreds of millions of ads."

9. After Martha Raddatz, co-moderator of the second debate between Trump and Clinton, asked the Democratic nominee about her "extremely careless" email practices as secretary of state, Trump asked, "Why aren't you bringing up the emails? I'd like to know." When co-moderator Anderson Cooper noted that "we brought up the emails," Trump insisted that they hadn't. "Nice," he said sarcastically. "One on three."

10. During the second debate, Trump complained that Clinton was getting more time to speak. "You know what's funny?" he said. "She went over a minute over, and you don't stop her. When I go one second over, it's like a big deal….Why don't you interrupt her? You interrupt me all the time." CNN found that Trump actually got to speak about a minute longer than Clinton during the debate.

Although Trump insists he is not thin-skinned, he does cop to whining. "I am the most fabulous whiner," he told CNN last year. "I do whine because I want to win. And I'm not happy if I'm not winning. And I am a whiner. And I'm a whiner, and I keep whining and whining until I win. And I'm going to win for the country and I'm going to make our country great again." Should Trump's strategy fail, America will have to muddle through as best it can. But at least we will be spared Whine Until You Win, the otherwise inevitable sequel to The Art of the Deal.

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  1. If you’re not working the refs you’re not competing.

    1. Coach K concurs

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    2. Never mind the O’Keefe videos showing that yes, they actually are working to try to rig the election. But let’s not cover that story.

      1. I concur! Why are Jake and Reason joining the O’Keefe tapes blackout of the MSM? A dumb fucking non-story like this is more important or interesting than exposed rampant corruption? Trump is a whiny meanie dumdum authoritarian. We get it!

        1. It’s beyond being a non story, it is the reverse of the truth, when you consider they are comparing Trump
          to the guy who has been whining about what Bush left him, for eight, solid years, now.
          Glass houses, and all…

    3. In 2009 the PEW Foundation published their “excellence in journalism” report on the 2008 presidential election. In it they disclosed that for every one positive story on McCain campaign, there were four negative stories.

      The reporting on the the Obama campaign was the mirror image; that is, for every one negative story on Obama, there were four positive stories generated.

      In that report they stated that MSNBC had NO NEGATIVE stories on Obama for the last two weeks of the election.

      If it matters to anyone – Faux News was about 1 positive story to 1.4 negative stories for BOTH McCain and Obama.

      I can’t wait to see the PEW report covering the 2016 election.

      1. Fox seems biased against the left because the baseline is skewed towards bias against the right. If you’re used to hearing nothing against the Dems any change might seem like a bias.

  2. He should just sit there and take it, like every other Republican nominee does. Works every time.

    1. That’s definitely the only other option.

    2. Just lay back and think about Reagan.

      1. Turn around and take my hand?

  3. Nice hard hitting story.

    1. That they didn’t make each # into a slideshow should be good enough, don’t you think?

  4. I’m sure Reason has covered this, but I guess I missed it.

    Voter fraud

    Is this legit? I just found it, haven’t had time to ‘fact check’ it yet, working on it. But it seems that there’s a guy here admitting to helping commit voter fraud.

    1. There’s about 50 good, libertarian-type stories Reason is ignoring. Some I’d argue they have an ethical obligation to cover such as the violence at Trump rallies. Some you’d just think they’d have interest in, like emails where Hillary talks about wanting Obamacare to unravel with the Republicans getting the ball rolling. But we get silence.

      1. Trump’s whining, we don’t have time to look at Democrats admitting to committing voter fraud for the last 50 years.

        1. Trump’s whining

          “I learned it from WATCHING YOU!”

          1. Don’t worry, I’m boycotting the comments section until my next post.

            1. I’m just waiting to see which commentator goes insane next.

              1. Depends on who ends up winning. The one good thing I can say about this shitshow of an election is that there will be lots of salty ham tears, regardless which POS ends up winning. Schadenfreude is the only thing that’s in it for me at this point.

                1. I’m not really sure which will be best for the lulz. Maybe Slick Willy as First Dude. Until we get into a nuclear war with Russia on Hillary’s next brilliant foreign policy Srping or Reset.

        2. Jonathan Gruber wasn’t strung up a lamp post by an angry mob, and you think people are going to give a shit about this? No, dude. No.

      2. It’s a cocktail party thing.

        1. Yeah, you won’t be invited to those unless you write your quota of Trump is Hitler articles in a day. And the quota is too damn high.

      3. I don’t read Reason for the libertarian perspective. They ceded that role after 2008 when they stopped talking about executive overreach and military interventions (it wasn’t ‘cool’ anymore). Liberty Hangout is infinitely more Libertarian than Reason (which has become the mouthpiece for mush moderates who desperately want to please rich white liberals), but Reason has the best comment section by far. That alone is worth the read.

        1. Reason writers are just hanging around, hoping to be noticed by the “big boys”

          They really have no real love of liberty or libertarian principles.

          Once they get picked up by the Washington Post, Bloomberg News, Huff Post, etc… They are more then happy to suck on the statist quo.

          Radley Balko seems to be the only one who maintained some resemblance of libertarian thought. Weigle, Welch, and the rest … not so much

      4. There’s about 50 good, libertarian-type stories Reason is ignoring.

        Such as? In recent years their mission seems to have changed. You my not see it unless you get the news feed. where onw can see 10-20 postings filling an inbox. It’s like a quota that 90% of the content must be reporting or commenting on government screwups …. to readers already convinced.

    2. O’Keefe’s credibility problems will never go away unless he releases actual unedited videos and transcripts.

      1. So does that mean that the MSM credibility problems will never go away until they release all their unedited video transcripts.

        I would love to see who Judy Miller was talking too when she was making claims about WMD in Iraq

        1. Helluva point!

      2. O’Keefe always releases unedited videos. But I suspect most people have no interest in wading through dozens of hours of unedited and boring footage when they could get to the salient points in 16 minutes:


        YouTube undercover video: Clinton Campaign and DNC Incite Violence at Trump Rallies

        1. This. And for all the talk about edited, discredited videos, O’Keefe has gotten people fired or forced reforms with each batch. The only time he’s had to pay anyone for his videos was for something he didn’t catch on video at all, and had no way of knowing about as he had already left. And the suit in question was really about him ‘illegally’ recording in California.

          It’s nothing more than a standard line of attack on the guy. Michael Moore gets covered legitimately by much of the media. Colbert and John Stewart edit interviews to make guests look dumb. But it’s O’Keefe has been discredited despite the lack of specific examples to point to.

      3. Lmao. Like 60 minutes?

    3. I used to say that Hillary and her apparatchiks were “as corrupt as Nixon” but I change my mind. They’re way, way more corrupt than Nixon. Nixon and his cronies were fucking choir boys compared to them.

      1. Of course, they’re also stupid enough to talk about this shit. Not that it matters since no one seems to give a shit. Is it too early to start drinking massive quantities of alcohol?

        1. Of course, they’re also stupid enough to talk about this shit.

          That’s because, as corrupt as they are, they desperately need someone to see how diabolically brilliant they truly are. Fortunately for them, as you say, no one seems to give a shit.

          1. as corrupt as they are, they desperately need someone to see how diabolically brilliant they truly are

            That Scott Foval guy’s tone in the videos does come off as “Check out the big brain on me!” self congratulatory smugness. I don’t see how the undercover reporter could keep from just punching him in his smug, douchey face. I don’t think I would have been able to do it.

            1. It seems after watching the video that Scott was into or wanted to be into the investigator. That’s my impression of it anyway.

    4. I wish Reason would cover this so I could whinement about their coverage.

  5. Obama NEVER whines, let alone engages in hyperbole. He’s as masculine and stoic as they come. Even when he pretends to literally cry to push his agenda, he just does it such a dignified way that no one could accuse him of whining.

    1. He just gets all wee-weed up.

    2. And he’s soooo dreamy, too!

    3. Yeah, that is pretty rich coming from President “not my fault”.

    4. If reason is taking throwaway comments from an awful president about an awful candidate and using it as click bait then they are officially Part Of The Problem. That they unironically post these after declaring such practices as, at best, distracting then they only fuel the cosmo leftist accusations.

      Running click bait fluff with no mentions of pretty damning revelations is hurting their credibility and lending credence to the Team Red howlers here. Since we’re learning that essentially every accusation against the DNC/HRC/MSM is at least somewhat true one wonders what the editorial decision making process is here.

  6. I can go along with the notion that Trump is a whiner, but I don’t see that makes his accusations any less true. So for the prez to say that strikes me as a bit ad hominem.

    And I realize this is rather tu quoque but Obama hardly seems like the best person to be making that particular accusation.

    1. And I realize this is rather tu quoque but Obama hardly seems like the best person to be making that particular accusation.

      Are you familiar with the phrase “It takes one to know one?”

      1. Good point!

      2. I know you are but what am I.

  7. I’ll be charitable and say that Jacob Sullum has never heard or read about persuasion techniques (Robert Caldini is the expert on the subject) so he perceives what Trump does as whining. Articles like this is why I get more disappointed by Reason every day.

    1. Oops, the correct spelling is Robert Cialdini.

    2. yup. every. single. day.

    3. Whining is a persuasion technique.

      1. This is true. And somehow it works a lot of the time. I don’t get it. A guy could whine at me twenty-four hours a day for the rest of my life, and it’d be annoying as fuck, bu the most he might ever get out of it is a punch in the yabls. I’ve never experienced whining as persuasive, and it mystifies me that it’s took that way by everyone else it seems.

  8. Went on CNN today to see if they still had Obama’s “whiner” comments as their lead story. Seemed like some comments by Obama on Colbert’s crappy show that no one watches were what the media decided were worth covering unlike email leaks or other such banal examples of corruption.

    Nope. Instead it’s Michael Moore’s surprise and something on how the election CANNOT BE HACKED! And then the main story is ‘Big Losses for ISIS’ because Iraqi forces took several villages outside Mosul – in a “SWEEP” no less.

    1. Whatever I hear from CNN these days, I just automatically assume the opposite is the real truth.

      1. Top stories today: Michael more isn’t surprised at all, the election can be hacked and ISIS wins big because non-Iraqi forced failed to take several uninhabited patches of desert.

      2. These past 10000 days?

  9. That’s a quality Photoshop right there.

  10. Sooooo……..voter fraud? coordinated collusion……….? planned disruptions at Trump events…………? The O’Keefe videos?

    Still nothing?

    Can we pull Gillespie’s head out of Hillary’s cloaca for a few minutes so we can make reason pretend to be a libertarian publication one last time before the second Dark Age crashes down around us?

    You know, way back when, I said this would happen.

    I just really hoped that I was wrong.

    1. I thought Mangu Ward took the reins…..

  11. Bill Clinton has a new sexual assault accuser interviewed by Brietbart.
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-g…..irst-time/

    I’m sure that we’ll see just as much coverage of this as we did women who accused Trump. By my count, 7 different women have in some capacity accused Bill of sexual assault or rape.

    1. But but but Willie isn’t the one running so no need to cover it.

  12. Speaking of just one of the listicle points, Khizr Khan…

    If Reason had any actual interest, they would point out that Khizr Khan is an immigration lawyer who specializes in immigration from Muslim countries and opposes Trump’s plan to limit immigration from Muslim countries. Perhaps a conflict of interest?


    Khizr Khan Deletes Law Firm Website that Specialized in Muslim Immigration

    Khan has also said that the nasty Donald Trump has a “black soul” and “blackness of character”, using racist imagery that is not OK to African Americans.

    Khan claims that Trump does not understand the Constitution, but as an immigration lawyer should mention that the Immigration Act of 1952 gives the President the power to exclude “any class of people”. And Khan also has a history of writing favorably about Sharia law and implying that it will supersede the Constitution.

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/08…..haria-law/

    Quote: Khizr Khan … has previously written in a law journal about Islamic law. He specifically wrote about the purity of the Quran and the Sunnah over all other texts and interpretations.

    Is this whining? Or fair game in a political debate?

    1. If Reason had any actual interest, they would point out that Khizr Khan is an immigration lawyer who specializes in immigration from Muslim countries and opposes Trump’s plan to limit immigration from Muslim countries. Perhaps a conflict of interest?

      Do you know what a conflict of interest is?

      1. Do tell us.

        1. Thinks of it this way: would it be a conflict of interest for a pot smoker to oppose candidates who support throwing pot smokers in jail? Would it be a conflict of interest for NORML to do so?

          1. I think the term he was looking for is “vested interest”.

            But “conflict of interest” is commonly used to describe situations where someone has an undisclosed, vested interest when they claim to be speaking from a position of neutrality.

            1. And when did Khan ever “claim to be speaking from a position of neutrality”? He was an invited speaker at a political convention!

            2. Fair enough. I think that vested interest is the better term to use.

              How many people know that Khan is not just a Gold Star father but also an immigration attorney with a vested interest against Trump’s proposals? Perhaps 1%?

    2. You first link is SF’d.

    3. Daily Caller is running a story now…according to the White House visitor logs, Bob Creamer (the guy running the voter fraud in that O’Keefe video) visited the White House 342 times and met personally with Obama on at least 47 of those occasions.

      But nothing to see here, right, Reason? Just keep calling Trump a whiner and ignore what’s happening from the Democrat side.

      1. Still vetting….still vetting…..still vetting…….etc.

        1. How do we know the visitors log wasn’t hacked by Russians on orders from Der trump?

  13. Just look at these whiners!


    O’Keefe Video Sting Exposes Democrats’ Effort to Incite Violence at Trump Rallies


    YouTube undercover video: Clinton Campaign and DNC Incite Violence at Trump Rallies

    Quotes:
    O’Keefe’s extensive video investigation reveals that the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) are involved in bird-dogging and other provocative tactics through a web of consultants led by Robert Creamer, a veteran Chicago activist and convicted felon…

    Creamer affirms on one video that Clinton is aware of “all” of his work, and that Democracy Partners has a daily telephone call with the Clinton campaign to coordinate efforts.

    O’Keefe and his team also obtained hidden camera videos showing one of Creamer’s consultants, Scott Foval, describing “bird-dogging,” among other tactics, and taking credit for having instigated violence at several Republican events during the 2016 election cycle.

    Foval – who praises Creamer as “diabolical” – explains how “bird-dogging” works: how they plan confrontations in advance, choose particular individuals to provoke, and maximize media coverage.

    1. Continued…


      In another video, Foval admits that his organization is responsible for an incident in Asheville, North Carolina in September, where an elderly woman was allegedly assaulted outside a Trump rally.

      In that incident, the 69-year-old woman, wearing an oxygen tank, heckled a visually impaired 73-year-old Trump supporter, then pursued him. She claimed he then punched her in the jaw, though she had no visible injury; his attorney claims she touched him on the shoulder first, and then fell to the ground as he turned around. The national media covered her claims widely, while largely ignoring his. Foval explains that the woman had been “trained” as a part of his operation.

      1. “Scott Foval, National Field Director for a non-profit organization named Americans United for Change, told an undercover reporter, “The [Clinton] campaign pays DNC, DNC pays Democracy Partners, Democracy Partners pays the Foval Group, The Foval Group goes and executes the shit.

        What is this “shit” the Foval Group executes? Foval points to Shirley Teeter, a 69-year-old woman who dominated the airwaves after she said she was assaulted at a North Carolina Trump rally.

        “She was one of our activists,” Foval said to the undercover reporter.”

        http://dailycaller.com/2016/10…..p-rallies/

        I don’t want a President that goes around purposely provoking violence to disrupt and cancel her political opponent’s speeches. And then the media uses this as an opportunity to lambaste non-Progressives everywhere for being violent . . .

        I won’t apologize for whining about that and neither should Trump.

        1. It gets worse:

          Dem Operative Who Oversaw Trump Rally Agitators Visited White House 342 Times

          Quote:
          A key operative in a Democratic scheme to send agitators to cause unrest at Donald Trump’s rallies has visited the White House 342 times since 2009, White House records show.

          Robert Creamer, who acted as a middle man between the Clinton campaign, the Democratic National Committee and “protesters” who tried ? and succeeded ? to provoke violence at Trump rallies met with President Obama 47 times, according to White House records. Creamer’s last visit was in June 2016.

          1. Nothing to see here, Trump said PUSSY!

            1. And he whines! And takes tax deductions!

    2. Learn how to do html tagging correctly. You’ve fucked up every single link you’ve tried to do in this entire comment thread except for one.

      It’s [a href=”http://www.fuckyou.com”]Fuck you.[/a] but with greater than/ less than signs replacing the square brackets.

      So that it ends up looking like this:

      Fuck you.

      1. I wouldn’t advise clicking on that link, BTW. I don’t know where it goes, but it’s probably NSFW.

      2. Thank you for actually posting the correct undocumented syntax.

        No props to you for unwarranted rudeness. I have been using standard HTML < a href syntax on Reason's website for many years and only recently it has started breaking if the complete tag is not on the same line from end to end.

        Your last name describes you perfectly. You’re welcome.

        1. My apologies for living up to my last name. Since all but one link was broken I assumed you were fucking something up. I find I’m much more short tempered of late. Little things that used to not bother me now piss me off to no end. I’m sure I’m a real joy to be around in meat-space too.

          I should probably just stay off of reason and especially the comments section for the next month or so.

          1. No need for you to leave, please stay for the lulz.

          2. Understood, I go through phases like that sometimes. Hope you feel better 🙂

        2. “No props to you for unwarranted rudeness.”

          Whiner.

  14. Just because he’s a whiny baby doesn’t mean he’s wrong about the system being rigged against him–in various ways.

    We might also mention that the system is rigged against Gary Johnson–if being excluded from the debates weren’t enough, single member districts mean there will only be two important parties and ensures that whatever doesn’t kill one of them will only make them stronger.

    Then there’s the whiny Democrats. Have you ever heard so much whining as the progressives after they’ve lost a midterm election? If it weren’t for the Koch brothers, you know, people like me wouldn’t have given a damn that Obama squandered our future paychecks bailing out Wall Street, nationalizing GM, or on so called “stimulus”.

    Our media is vile. Have we forgotten about Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and the DNC already? Did you know she was hired by the Clinton campaign the day she was forced to leave the DNC? The system isn’t just rigged against Trump; it was rigged against Bernie Sanders, too.

    Did you know the Hillary campaign was using brownshirt tactics to provoke violence at and shut down Trump rallies? This is now common knowledge like the fact that Hillary Clinton accepted money from foreign governments while the Secretary of State. If Trump is pointing out these facts and making the case that the only way to fight back against the system that’s rigged against us is to vote for him, then I’m not sure that qualifies as whining.

    I think he may just be making a compelling argument.

    1. Some may complain about how he’s making his argument, but I think he has a strong case. More to the point, a lot of people see the same things and have been very frustrated about it. That’s why, whining or not, he’s been able to stay competitive: he’s pointing right at the elephant in the room and saying “look at that big fucking elephant!”.

  15. Just because he is in fact a big whiny baby doesn’t mean that he’s wrong in saying that the election is rigged against him. Maybe it says that in the article but come on I’ve got work to do.

    1. I’m not sure “rigged” is quite the word. But the media, by and large, is definitely against him.

      Which I really don’t have a problem with. The problem is that the media is also clearly for Clinton. The media should be extremely critical of all candidates.

      1. completely rigged. There have been numerous instances of large scale election fraud that are conveniently ignored by the media, from “found” ballot boxes during recounts, to ACORN’s registration fraud, to DNC bussing of homeless from poll to poll sites in inner cities, to Black Panther activists with clubs outside Philly polling sites threatening whites.

        1. “Completely”? So the outcome of every election is pre-determined?

          1. perhaps a definition difference.

            from the all knowing Google: “election rigging is the act of dishonestly organizing an election to get a particular result.”

            So yes, TPTB are rigging the election to the best of their ability, but no it is not pre-determined as the system is too complex, and the riggers are too incompetent, to actually guarantee success.

  16. Yes, the Emmy Awards are highly politicized. duh.
    Yes, the election is massively rigged. duh.
    Yes, political reporters are disgusting hacks. duh.

    need I go on? None of this is whining. This is pointing out the absurd state of the country that most recognize, but that the coastal elites constantly lie and deflect about.

    Trump is 100% right on this, so to deflect the topic, he is termed a “whiner”. Fug that. We’ve had a pitiful actual whiner in office for the last 8 years and it is the height of hypocracy for Obama to call anyone else a whiner.

    1. Whining is tone, not content. It’s perfectly possible to whine and be right at the same time.

      He may be right about a lot of it. He’s still a thin skinned asshole.

      1. Have you ever actually heard what he has said? It’s not tone.
        The “whining” is solely a DNC-media talking point.

        It’s pathetic that Sullum doesn’t recognize he is being utterly played.

        1. Some of it. Sounds kind of whiny to me.

          I’m not really up on DNC talking points.

      2. “Whining is tone, not content.”

        It’s just part of the accent. It makes everything sound either like whining or bitter sarcasm. Sort of like how the Danish accent makes them all sound like cynical arseholes making bitchy private jokes at everyone else expense.

    2. Obama is not a whiner! He’s had to deal with a Congress that doesn’t want his agenda to go through simply out of racism!!! No president in history has ever had to deal with a hostile Congress!!!1 /progderp

      1. Obama has to be the whiniest president ever. Oh, the Republicans are such mean obstructionists, why doesn’t anyone understand how brilliant all my plans are.

  17. Trump isn’t going to lose this election in a blowout because of voter fraud or media bias, he’s going to lose this election in a blowout because he’s a thin-skinned buffoon with zero impulse control. The media did not force him to make a complete ass of himself on multiple occasions like he did with the Khans or the beauty pageant winner or his tax returns. If he had any ability to stay on message he could have easily won.

    Face it, Republicans played exactly into Hillary’s hands and gave her an easily beatable opponent. The Stupid Party moniker is well-deserved.

    1. “The media did not force him to make a complete ass of himself on multiple occasions like he did with the Khans or the beauty pageant winner or his tax returns.”

      Who’s complaining that the media is to blame for any of that?

    2. He didn’t make himself an ass with the Khans. What he said was exactly what most were thinking. Khan was a stupid emotive hack who had no business preaching to anyone. Fug him. the media portray Trump as an ass because the DNC talking points directed him to do so.

      And who the heck cares about the pageant cow or the tax returns. no one is talking about that.

      1. I don’t know anything about the Khan thing. But I thought the criticism that you can’t talk bad about a “gold star parent” was dumb. If you are going to make yourself a public figure, you can’t hide behind your dead son when someone criticizes you.

      2. “He didn’t make himself an ass with the Khans. What he said was exactly what most were thinking.”

        Umm, no. Here’s what actually happened;

        Mr. Khan: Lectured Trump on the Constitution

        Trump: Hey, his wife is kinda silent, maybe she isn’t allowed to say anything because, you know, they’re Muslim?

        So yeah he made an ass of himself.

      3. Oh, also:

        Mr. Khan: I lost a son in that illegal war in Iraq!

        Trump: I’ve sacrificed a lot too! Just look at all the bankruptcies I’ve had to endure!

        So, yeah. Total ass.

        1. except Trump never said that in response to Khan.

          Apply for a job at the NYT…they’d love you.

          1. How can I put this nicely? You’re full of shit: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics…..d=41015051

            1. Do you ever read/watch what you link to?

              Trump never said what chemijeff wrote that he said in response to Khan.

              When asked by George Stepfanoplous about what he sacrificed, Trump rambled about jobs and business he’s brought to the country.

    3. he’s going to lose this election in a blowout because he’s a thin-skinned buffoon with zero impulse control

      This is true, but that should not mean that someone who belongs in prison should therefore win.

      1. No, but it means that she probably will. What should happen often has little to do with what does.

    4. The Khans – So a couple who appear at a political event think they are above criticism?

      The beauty pageant winner- So a beauty pageant winner who got fat is above criticism?

      His tax returns – Obeying the tax laws is now wrong?

    5. “Republicans played exactly into Hillary’s hands and gave her an easily beatable opponent.”

      They wanted Hillary over Cruz which is why Kasich stayed in so long to make sure Trump got the nom. More important to them that they get to keep their wars.

  18. Speaking of factchecks, I bet Trump could stomp Obama’s ass.

    1. We really should just do away with the pretense of voting at this point and have our would-be-rulers fight to the death in a Thunderdome style event.

      1. I don’t think Trump could take Michelle

        1. It’s not wise to upset a Wookie.

  19. It’s “whining” to respond to insults and accusations with some sort of defense? I wish Reason would stop whining about The Don.

    1. It is if you do it in a whiny way. Whining is how you say it, not what you say.

      1. Thanks for giving us an example.

  20. Isn’t the DNC whining about Russia trying to rig the election? And they are doing this intentionally to deflect from the content of the DNC emails.

    And now they are whining about whining.

    Reason got played.

    1. Reason isn’t getting played.

      Reason is part of it.

  21. I wish Reason was more like Breitbart and The Daily Caller.

    1. I wish your mom was more like Breitbart and The Daily Caller. /sickburn

    2. It’s just too difficult to find those websites. Reason really needs to cover exactly the same things that they do.

      1. As a libertarian-minded individual I expect others to cater to my needs and desires.

    3. If these people think Reason is so terrible and a bunch of (((cuck))) shills, why don’t they go somewhere else?

      1. Who are the “these people” you refer to?

        1. You’re a sharp guy. I bet you can figure it out.

          1. It doesn’t seem worth the effort.

            Bitching at Robby makes sense, because he sucks. Bitching about some vague unidentified population that people find vaguely irritating, but never engage directly… is fucking lame.

            1. It’s also not worth the effort to specifically name the names of the bitchy whiney bitching commenters who constantly bitch and whine.

            2. It is also not worth the effort to specifically name the names of the consistently bitchy whiner commenters who bitch and whine that Reason is not doing what they want when they want.

              I know that does not make as much sense as pulling my hog out and cumming all over a Robby story, but I chose to do it anyway.

              1. Well, more power to you then.

              2. I added the cumming part because the squirrels annoyed me.

      2. If these people think Reason is so terrible and a bunch of (((cuck))) shills, why don’t they go somewhere else?

        Dude, racist much?

        1. Hey, he didn’t say “you people”.

      3. 1. Because of the comments and commenters
        2. Because we’re not Republicans and have no interest in reading republican talking points.

        Why are people like you upset that many others are pissed that anti hillary news is being blacked out of here?

        1. I just had come to expect objective journalism here, and it’s disappointing that it’s become almost just like everywhere else

        2. This X1000.

        3. anti hillary news is being blacked out of here

          See, that is an absurd statement and what-about-hillary is not a valid response to how awful Trump is.

          1. The anti-Hillary news in question actually makes Trump considerably less awful. He was roundly condemned for violence at his rallies. But now we know that the violence was instigated by the Democratic operatives connected to the Hillary campaign and DNC.

    4. I wish Reason was less like The Huffington Post and Vox

      FTFY

  22. Fact Check: Trump Is Indeed a Big Whiny Baby

    http://tinyurl.com/zglyrf9

    Why aren’t I 50 points ahead!?

    1. What difference, at this point, does it make?

      Like, with a cloth?

    2. I thought she came off as more angry and desperate than whiny.

      But who cares? They are both dreadful people who can’t take criticism well and are interested only in their own glory.

  23. I keep seeing people go after Reason for this, and half of me thinks that’s unfair.

    The other half of me remembers Reason writers making posts like this:

    “The last contender given an opportunity to call out Trump’s rhetoric as an inciting factor in the recent violence . . .

    [Tapper] let Trump tap-dance his way out of any responsibility for inciting violence . . .

    . . .

    Trump movement goes far beyond just nasty rhetoric, but is instead now manifesting itself violently.

    . . .

    If last night is any indication of how Trump’s rivals and the media plan on holding Trump accountable for how his words influence the actions of his supporters, it’s a fair bet to say that “a little bit more” violence is what we’ll see.”

    “Donald Trump’s Rivals Completely Let Him Off the Hook on Violence Surrounding His Campaign”

    https://reason.com/blog/2016/03…..e-campaign

    1. Sullum is as honest as journalists come, and we shouldn’t go after Sullum for expressing his honest opinion in this article. What Sullum is writing here isn’t necessarily meant to ignore recent revelations about Hillary’s campaign purposely instigating violence, and being based in Israel, he might not even know about them yet.

      But other writers at Reason have blamed that violence on Trump in the past–repeatedly. And those authors should write revisions and/or retractions for those stories. There’s no shame in being lied to. The Clinton campaign purposely misled them into believing that it was the Trump supporters who were instigating the violence–and the media piled on. None of that is anybody at Reason’s fault.

      But now that the truth has come to light–being fooled in the past means you gotta face the facts. Otherwise, the last word they put out there stands, and that means you endorsed a lie. And that’s one thing when we’re not talking about an election. After the election, facing up to the facts won’t save your reputation. Telling the truth after the election just makes it look like you participated in the trickery.

  24. There does seem to be some shady shit going on in this election, it very well could be actively rigged to have Hillary win. However, that doesn’t change the fact Trump is a giant cry baby. Just like Hillary, he can’t comprehend why there are people who disagree with his views, and severely dislike him.

  25. The complaints here about Reason “ignoring” the anti-Hillary stuff that’s out there remind me of the complaints by the right about places like NRO – they complain that because these outfits actually publish facts and stories that aren’t 100% devoted to taking down Hillary, that they are “traitors” or “sellouts” or “in the tank for Hillary”. Well, no. It just means that they aren’t a monolithic collective with a singular purpose.

    In essence people are complaining that Reason isn’t more collectivist in its anti-Hillary zeal. How weird.

    1. Not quite. We get seemingly dozens of anti-Trump articles for every one or two anti-Hillary articles each day. The anti-Trump stuff gets repetitive and petty at times, and I’m among those who deride the seemingly pathological opposition to Trump, but I don’t think that makes them “in the tank for Hillary.”

      However, there has been a blackout (both here and in the MSM) on what many fair-minded individuals (in addition to the rabid anti-Hillary partisans) would consider a shockingly corrupt attack on the electoral process, a manipulation of the media, a vivid display of the antipathy with which the elected class views most Americans, and a counter-argument to “the Narrative” of Trump and his supporters are violent racists – a narrative that dominated the headlines here and elsewhere throughout most of the past 18 months.

      1. ^This.

        1. It’s probably not a good thing to land on her majesty’s enemy list, I bet…

      2. And it tends to shuffle uncomfortably coast to dishonesty, though so far as I’ve seen I think it is likelier faulty for frivolousness.

  26. Everyone’s a fucking whiner these days. It sucks!

    1. indeed.

      Trump is clearly expressing a widely felt sentiment when he complains about the larger political process being “rigged.” And he’s not alone in talking that way. The Blessed Elizabeth Warren, the patron saint of self-aggrandizing public moralists, says so, as did Bernie Sanders, at least right up to the moment when Wikileaks provided actual documentary evidence that the Democratic National Committee was actively working against the Vermont socialist’s presidential campaign.

      Or check out this loser fag and his whiny buddies in the press

      The World’s Greatest Newspaper is hardly alone in casting righteous aspersions in the general direction of the Commission on Presidential Debates. The L.A. Times editorialized three weeks back that blocking Johnson and Green Party nominee Jill Stein “would be a disservice to voters,” and contribute to the perception that “the debate system is rigged” by the participants: “Rules that limit participation to Democrats and Republicans, while excluding candidates who have a small-but-not-zero chance of winning might understandably be construed as self-dealing.” And the Charlotte Observer was even more blunt: “The election isn’t rigged, but the presidential debates seem to be.”

  27. At least here there’s no complaints about the lack of equivalency in not referencing Hillary’s big whiny crybaby-ness – we all know the tear-generating unit upgrade option was left out of this particular version of the Hillbot.

  28. Sorry, but Obama accusing Trump of being whiny, thin-skinned and petulant is a little too pot, meet kettle.

    1. Are you calling him BLACK?

  29. Still, there’s something surreal about seeing a Chicago politician, a “community organizer” no less, acting like he has no idea what Trump’s talking about with this “rigged election” nonsense or who Richard Daley was. Almost as surreal as seeing people who claim Bush stole the election in 2000 also claiming that Trump’s questioning of the integrity of the electoral process is both unprecedented and a mortal threat to the trust voters have that the system is fair.

  30. Another way someone might think the election was rigged is in reference to the FBI director rigging the investigation of Hillary’s email so that scandal couldn’t threaten Hillary’s campaign.

  31. So, Trump is wrong to say that the election is rigged. Fair enough. But, when Clinton and everyone just left of Joseph Stalin says the Russians are interfering in our election (without any proof) that isn’t whining and it’s totally legitimate? What the fuck?

    1. Trumptard, quit whining! (am I doing it right Crusty?)
      Seems like their are a lot of people on here that try to shut conversations that should be had because of their own bias. Hypocrites.
      BTW full disclosure: I despise Hillary, Trump and dislike Johnson. (Rand Paul was my fave). Probably still voting Johnson.

      1. Yeah, it’s about Trump. That is what I care about.

        1. At least you care.

  32. “… if whenever things are going badly for you and you lose, you start blaming somebody else, then you don’t have what it takes to be in this job.”

    Thank you for that, Mr. Congress Never Does What I Want Because I’m Black

    1. Or “I didn’t get welcomed into the LP and handed the nomination because my gorgeous wife is black.”

  33. RE: Fact Check: Trump Is Indeed a Big Whiny Baby

    Yes, Trump the Grump is a whiny baby when he doesn’t get what he wants, when he wants it.
    At least Hillary isn’t like that.
    Oh, wait…

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  35. Yeah “Reason” fuck off. Here is one libertarian that is voting for Trump, you can all call me what you want but Gary Johnson isn’t a libertarian, no matter how much the “Reason” crowd sucks his dick. A libertarian doesn’t defend Clinton, believes its OK to violate freedom of association etc. A big part of libertarianism is a non interventionist foreign policy, Hillary and her insane crew have admitted they want to use nuclear arms against Russia but at least Trump wants to talk to them. Johnson is Republican lite, and he doesn’t represent libertarianism, if he won, it would be a huge disaster for our movement. People will go “He’s just running things like a Republican.” Why not actually put in a tax cutting Republican who does have chance and will try not to deep fry the planet? Is it too much to ask? Maybe for the “Reason” crew it is, dumb fuck “I don’t know who Rothbard is” Johnson isn’t a libertarian, wake the fuck up.

    1. Typical republican mystic. Mystics never see the platform, so blinded are they by the fear of false prophets. If this “fake” gets the platform 500% of the spoiler-vote spread, I’ll be laughing all the way to the bank.

  36. The question Jacob leaves hanging is: “What does that say about the rest of the candidates fielded by God’s Own Prohibitionists?”
    This is shaping up into a really good year to be a yellow-dog libertarian voter!

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  38. Liliana . if you think Lawrence `s blog is incredible, I just purchased a new Honda after earning $5741 this – 4 weeks past and also 10 grand lass month . it’s by-far the most-comfortable job I have ever done . I started this four months/ago and almost immediately began to make minimum $85… p/h .

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  42. Ellie . true that Susan `s blurb is good… I just purchased a gorgeous Fiat Panda sincee geting a check for $8891 this-last/4 weeks and also ten grand last-month . this is actually the most financialy rewarding Ive had . I started this 9-months ago and right away was bringin in at least $87, per-hour .

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  44. Liliana . if you think Lawrence `s blog is incredible, I just purchased a new Honda after earning $5741 this – 4 weeks past and also 10 grand lass month . it’s by-far the most-comfortable job I have ever done . I started this four months/ago and almost immediately began to make minimum $85… p/h .

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  45. until I looked at the paycheck saying $4730 , I did not believe that…my… brother woz like actualy bringing in money part time from there computar. . there friend brother started doing this for less than 7 months and resently paid for the morgage on there home and bought a new Cadillac …….

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