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All aboard the righteous indignation hate train!
Toot toot!
This is how we make America great again.
Who do I have to grab by the pussy to get some service around here?
I feel your pussy - er, pain.
Oh, it's wet.
Whom?
Fuck you, you elitist shit.
It's "Fuck youm"
Excellent.
Ivanka looks pretty terrified.
Open Competition for "Wittiest / Dumbest Reason-Writer Tweet" Now Begins
(re-tweets by others will be given special mention)
Who retweets Weigel first?
Shikha.
SHE STRIKES SWIFTLY!!
I don't twat.
Yeah, we know.
Then what's your dicker handle?
I think we can consider the "Don't Grab My Pussy" Gadsden Flag an early contender.
Don't Trib On Me?
For wittiest, it has to be a finalist at least.
SIV: Yeah, that's him, with the golden plumes. I've got to use some rubber bands on his beak, just in case I start kissing him. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful ? I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. I just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're the one that feeds them, they let you do it. You can do anything.
Unidentified voice: Whatever you want.
SIV: Grab them by the cloaca. You can do anything.
I am not too proud to admit that thst made me throw up in my mouth.
All that money, all that grooming, all that attention on her and Chelsea still manages to look like a pile of dirty bum laundry.
You have laundry for your bum?
You don't? I guess you just shit your pants and walk around like that.
If Trump grabs Anderson Cooper, will he have grabbed a pussy?
Trump looks like he smells a terrible fart. Hillary looks more stiff and robotic than ever.
Huma likes it when Hillary is stiff.
Trump, a member of the Joey Tribbiani school of acting
I feel America getting greater.
God, that first stupid-ass question. If kids are looking at pols as role models, bring on SMOD.
Town halls always a bad idea.
You guys be sure to let me know how this turns out.
We need your wit and wisdom, Mr. Commenter-in-Chief.
Where have you gone, Joe DiMaggio Eugene?
Holy shit! I figured they'd rig the debate but not make it so obvious.
They really found some photogenic St. Louisians.
If by 'found' you mean 'brought in from another city.'
Trump got to know an entire nation of 320 million in 18 months?
Now that's talent!
Canada was never great. It can never be made great.
/drops head.
[picks up head]
Hey Rufus, you dropped one of your heads.
Trump is saying everything he should have said in the first debate right off the bat.
But all anybody can think about is him playing grab ass.
Still sniffling.
Unfit!
Well, how do you think he stays such a high energy guy?
Here comes the tape question.
Here comes the class.
Shackford looks surprisingly old.
The election is killing him. He'll look as bad as Chelsea by the times it's over.
This isn't a debate.
It's an inquisition.
Medieval Times? Like the restaurant?
Turn this shit into Crusader Kings 2 debate and I'm tuning in!
You stupid motherfuckers. What the fuck are you doing with your lives? I'm listening to Vektor and reading a paper about normalization of reprojection errors for improved pose estimation, so at least I'm not hammering nails into my eyeballs like you idiots, or whatever the fuck you're talking about.
...It does have something to do with nails and eyeballs and some kind of mass delusion, right? I got bored and drifted off when I was trying to read what's happening tonight.
I'm listening to the Packer game.
I'm half watching the Jints stumble around @ Lambeau. Hey, Mara! Hey Tisch! It wasn't the coach you needed to change. You need better players. I streamed tre debate online. Both events have been brutal. At least with the football game I have someone to root for. Theoretically, NY could catch GB in Q4, but i'm not optimistic. Oh, well I have many friends in WI who will be happy.
I just got home from a goddamned four hour drive and ate some home-cooked squash in coconut sauce. Now I am gonna google normalization of reprojection errors for improved pose estimation.
I am mentally preparing to rebuild my fence, cuz some asshole named Matt knocled it over.
Warty doesn't want America to be be great again.
What a cuck.
Two words, Warty: Schaden freude.
The best debate ever.
They should have a pool filled with mud in the middle of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTOQUnvI3CA
This was the best American presidential debate ever.
Sad that someone who is a self proclaimed intellectual missed it.
This one will may down in history as the most influential debate everl.
Anyone who missed it based on faux intellectual pursuits is an idiot.
Some of us read things for our jobs, you know. And that's Dr. Faux Intellectual Pursuits to you.
I love how robotics, AI, and machine learning are somehow "faux" intellectual pursuits, but pontificating on what is, essentially, political kabuki theater is the mark of a true thinking man.
Did you mean to say "political bukakke theater"?
It's like you're inside my head!
I'm watching football. There aren't enough mind altering substances on earth to get me to want to watch the debate.
I'm on my way up to Russian River Brewing. The person sitting in front of me is willingly and purposefully watching the debate on her smartphone. Based on the aggravated sighs, and the muttering, she's a Hillary supporter.
If you get a Pliny the Younger I will find you and kill you for it. Er... I mean.... Let's be friends.
They did not have the younger. There's a long standing rivalry I have with a co-worker who managed to stop in on a random Younger day. Even though I've had the Westy 12, he'll point out that he's had the Younger.
I had a buddy wait 3 hours in line there and he turned up with NOTHING.
I'm reading comments by people commenting on the tweets of people watching the debate.
Learning about lofting boat frames. I can here the shitshow in the background.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c0GfCHHVMI
Why fumble on the goal line? You don't have to listen.
Well aren't you special ?
Bless your heart.
Yeah bro, he may even be a yankee .
Dumbest tweet entrant #1
When women let Donald Trump do things to them, it's sexual assault.
In Petes case, if it weren't for date rape, he'd never get laid.
*ska trumpets*
Boomer practicing his chops as Soave-Understudy
I heard literally naked racism in a locker room, but not confessions to sexual assault.
You never heard anyone say, "I'd like to . . . "?
Bear in mind that I might not be the most athletic, locker-room-attending person in the universe, so it may not be a fair sample.
Yeah, the locker room down at Curve's might have a different dynamic.
And a waft of cat food?
You mean tuna, right?
Yeah, that's ridiculous.
Oh, GILMORE, how well do you know them
Fuck it, this shit is not even fun by proxy. I'm out. Stay drunk, my friends.
Bye, Pan.
Has Robby ever been allowed in the locker room he identifies with?
There isn't an official ICD-10 "Robby" designation yet.
Transanal Soave would be a great name for a band.
Jesus Christ.
They're really gonna push this?
Hillary: Elect me president, I won't rape anybody. Probably.
And anyone who said I did will be a liar.
Jeff from Ohio is a cuck.
So they spend the first 15 minutes focused on...audio of Trump from 2005.
They won't let him talk about anything else.
Gillespie, most prescient ringside judge since the Ali-Liston "Phantom Punch"
15 mins into debate
Good. Let Bill and his family have it.
Moderator: "Here's a question from Facebook, to which I will attach another reference to Trump's rape fantasies."
Ah. Time to mute the applause!
Surprisingly rowdy Trump contingent there.
Hillary outrage algorithm should be working, but it seems the boredom subloop is running.
"Talking about our agenda"
Yes, let's keep talking about the pussy-grabbin' video.
We'll see if these two will harp on the emails.
Hillary spends several minutes trashing Trump. All campaign ads are attacks on Trump. Claims she is taking the high road. Seems legit.
But America is great because America is good, and this campaign will bring us all together. To trash Trump.
most intellectually-dishonest-bullshit award seems locked up so far
""And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything."""
Totally talking about rape.
Hillary needs water immediately.
The audience is too close to start smelling like piss this early.
She has an indwelling catheter. It's connected to the piss bag on her thigh, hence the Omar the Tentmaker sized slacks she fancies.
If you had seen that picture of her in a swimsuit back when Bill was in office, you'd know those slacks are there to cover up the thunder thighs. The piss bag(s) are down near her ankles.
Trump needs Nyquil.
Sounds like he has a cold and took some already.
I'm tired, Hank.
If you look close enough you see the hole in Clinton's heart.
You must have good eyes because her heart is virtually nonexistent.
I'm not actually watching the debate, but is trump just repeating "GRAB THAT PUSSY" over and over? because that seems to be all anyone's reacting to
Hillary just called Trump a racist?!
She did that last time around, as well. But she's going high, folks! She's way above the fray. Quoted Michelle Obama and everything.
Boomer reveals his philosophical side
Already, I hate this debate.
Look Alex, "Live Tweeting" is a young medium.
Here it comes
EMAILSSSSS!!
There's a nice position for Trump: Vote for me and I'll investigate Hillary. Promise.
Tell me about the rabbits.
Remember acid wash jeans?
I'm glad he's hammering her with this stuff, but I don't think it's playing well.
I can't believe I'm going to get another 4 (8?!) years of a President that hates me and people like me (basically anyone who doesn't vote for her).
Before The One, Presidents actually counted the citizens who didn't vote for them as their constituents and real Americans.
Obama and Clinton view those who don't vote for them as the enemy. All other Presidents in my lifetime (even Bush, even Nixon!!) lead like they were leading all Americans. Obama and Clinton only care about card carrying members of the Party.
I and everyone else like me should prepare to deal with what that means......
You should try living as a productive resident of a blue city sometime.
He should try living as a resident of earth sometime.
'Before The One, Presidents actually counted the citizens who didn't vote for them as their constituents and real Americans.'
Tell me another one.
While the Left hated Bush, he didn't reciprocate from the Presidency. He was always decent to the Democrats. Even though it was the wrong decision, he let them vote on the Iraq war and didn't just shove it through on a party line vote.
Bill Clinton wanted to be liked by all Americans, and while the Republicans did not reciprocate, regular run of the mill Americans could at least see that he did things that most Americans agreed with. He's the most "reach across the aisle President in my lifetime".
And Regan, before the lefts relentless revisionist history, actually had a huge amount of support from the people. Ditto Bush, who was only ousted because of Ross Perot's candidacy.
Yeah - and Clinton's trying to push through the '90's version of Obamacare? That was because he loved us sooooo much.
Same with Bush's 15 year war.
I have to disagree. I think the last Bush administration repeated some of the dirty tricks that the Democrats have engaged in (IRS audits and whatnot). Makes me wonder how bad things will get.
That's why I live in a red state.....
Audience, calm down when booing Hillary. When applauding Hillary, keep it up.
Maybe snorting like an asthmatic pig into the mic is not good at this stage, Donald.
Hit the strobe, bitch ain't wearing her blue glasses
Her fact checking response is pretty weak.
Anderson Cooper is ANGRY.
"Because you'd be in jail." Burn.
Robby & his peers still seem obsessed with what goes on in "Locker Rooms"
(next they will discuss gladiator cinema)
That's right = kids these days, they brag about "Consent".
"Dude, I was like, "baby, you're so fine.... you should really consider reviewing these various propsals i've made, and then responding affirmatively into this iPhone App i downloaded "http://we-consent.org/""........and she was like, "OMG like ur so cute, send me dick pics" ... and i was like..""
Yeah, consent is huge in locker room discussions.
...I mean...I've been in locker rooms, bars, clubs, golf courses, outside, inside, and I've been around heterosexual men in their 20s and 30s, and am in fact one of the latter. Reasonable, kind, thoughtful, generous, really wonderful people will spend a fair bit of time discussing the physical attributes of women in the area. Women do the same shit.
I have never, ever, ever heard anyone talk about raping or wanting to rape anyone, nor have I ever heard anyone use the term "consent", because back before this weird SJW idiocy that's sweeping college campuses, cafes, and mothers' basements across the nation, it was pretty much understood that the goal was to convince members of the appropriate gender to want to get naked, and the fastest way to make that not happen was to say things like, "Hey, can I sit next to you on the couch? Um, can I touch your leg suggestively while we watch a movie? Would you permit me to very subtly put my arm around your shoulder and allow my hand to slowly drift ever closer to your breasts, like a continent sliding across the surface of the Earth?"
High school guys said things like "she was beggin' for it" when what really happened is that she reluctantly gave the braggart a peck on the front porch, `cause she hadn't locked down a prom date with the guy she really liked, and she wanted to keep him on the string as backup. Now, I went to high school in the early 70s, and was never on a sports team, so much cruder things may have been said when the jocks didn't have the dweebs, nerds and doofuses they went to gym class with around.
BTW, do millennials who aren't on teams use locker rooms? I understand that showering after gym, if the school even has gym, isn't mandatory anymore. You don't want people to see your junk? Just douse yourself in Axe and sweat your way through the rest of the school day. Cursory web surfing tells me showers at school have been de-emphasized or eliminated starting some 30 years ago. Not having kids, this wasn't a thing I had reason to know about. Trump and Bill Clinton probably used locker rooms at golf courses to change shoes, I guess.
"Oopsies!"
/HRC
Hillary is on the ropes!
"We want to remind the audience not to cheer for Donald Trump. Cheering for Hillary is just fine."
So far, one question from audience and one from Facebook which was really the same question worded less vaguely. Rest have been from Anderson and Martha.
Finally = something with a little wit
No, he really did that.
oh, wait that was a literal report of something he said.
It *seemed* cute.
Well, the usual tactic of the Clintons when a peon angers them is to sick the IRS on them. But the IRS has been auditing Trump for like a generation. So they're going to have to up their own game here.
"There is no evidence". Not evasive in the least, Hill.
"Imma so sorry about teh emales n tak fool responsilby"
And what does "taking responsibility" actually look like, Ms. Clinton? What a fucking liar.
Ain't but one way out.
Lord, this is embarassing!
Anybody wanna move to Somalia?
No, because there are no roads, and rape and murder are legal there.
I guess I just revealed that I'm not much of a libertarian for not wanting to live in a place like that.
Well maybe I'm an off-road enthusiast with violent tendencies.
If there is no law then nothing is legal. And everything is. You need to free. Your. Mind.
Mars is looking better than ever.
Get yoah ahss to mahs!
NAILS ANDERSON!
1 ON 3!
How many people using the phrase "locker room talk" have spent time in a locker room?
Here is an NSFW classic which generally flunks even *my* standards of taste, but in the case of Trump vs. Clinton, it may class up the joint.
Perfect, I love Dick Cheese
Looks like the Trumpster is finally going on the attack.
'she . . . didn't know what the letter 'c' on a document meant'.
And I love Clinton's deflection just before that - 'a year long investigation turned up no evidence of hacking and our secrets did not get into enemy hands'. Yeah? So? You got lucky then. Still irrelevant to the question of whether or not your behavior rises to the level of criminal.
'As secretary of state I had some of the nations biggest secrets' - yeah, and you didn't give enough of a fuck to take care of that information properly.
C is for grab her by the
Gary Johnson is winning this debate.
Please don't trigger SIV. He's very sensitive.
At least he doesn't whine after being insulted, which is not something we can say for the rest of our bitchy trolls.
True.
By the way, Hamster of Doom is a Super-Thug. You respect her or you get cut.
Three ways, no less - wide, deep, and frequently.
Noted.
Shikha = Still her only competiton!
Actually, its because only people in 3rd world countries tend to have actual criminals running for highest offices, but hey, you live in Detroit, so i can understand it gets confusing....
Enough with giving criminals a pass because they held office. Maybe a threat of prosecution would make elected officials a little more law abiding.
Anderson was a tough guy with Trump; Hilary not so much.
I don't care what Donald Trump did.
Hillary Clinton accepted money from foreign governments while she was the Secretary of State.
And there are millions of Americans who will never accept her as our legitimate President.
Never.
Trump hasn't done anything as a public servant.
It's what he said vs. what she has done as a public servant.
Hillary - she will keep the good things in the ACA, but cut costs...even though the 'good' things are what are increasing costs.
Do you know what happens in my gym locker room? Black men rub lotion on their feet, and old man talk to me while in various stages of undress.
You must enjoy that very much. Good for you.
Obamacare is a disaster.
Dumbest reason tweet?
Hard to top this
You know who else was a nazi from Austria?
Who is she?
Reason foundation, criminal justice policy.
She "asks twitter" things she could just look up and comments about how she just learned something that any well read/educated person should know, particularly in her "field".
Me-ow.
Listen to the cat.
To be fair, I don't think Hillary is a literal Nazi. She's just a basic garden-variety crony fascist (otherwise known as a Progressive)
He is "literally" a Nazi. Like, a swastika-wearing, white-power-loving, jackbooted Jew hater.
This election, like all of them, makes people retarded.
The FPO candidate?
Oh wait, I wasn't paying attention
Suderman seems aware that absolutely no one is actually listening to the debates, so he's already pimping his latest pieces, which predictably conclude that no matter how horrible Hillary is, we should spend our time extrapolating Trump's wheezes into something worse.
OK. The wife put the debate on.
Trump just told Clinton she is going to prison if he wins. Wow.
Just a stab in the dark here...I am guessing the Clinton/Trump family friendships are over.
C - "Its a good thing a person with the temperament of DT is not in charge of law enforcement in this country."
T - "Because you would be in jail."
I think things just got kicked up a notch or two.
She is definitely rattled. It looks like once again DT has been underestimated.
Clinton's rolling out the free-shit promises. Game over.
He's saying everything he should have said in the first debate--because now he doesn't think he has anything to lose.
Bill didn't say what he obviously said now. I'm sure the fact checkers are getting right on that one.
That fat guy in the blue shirt is so red he looks like a thumb smashed by a hammer.
He must be chewing the three-course meal gum.
Have you brought any fruits or vegetables on the planet?
Two weeks.
Excuse me?
Two weeks. Twooo weeeks! Wweeeoo...
"It's only wafer-thin."
"We have an employer-based system...and we have to replace that since we are destroying employers."
I don't want to see Trump as President, but I hate the thought of Hillary.
. . . and I would just love, love, love, to see progressives everywhere have a screaming hissy fit if he wins despite all this shit.
I might not stop laughing for weeks.
I bought some aspirin at the drugstore. I paid cash. I have no access to healthcare. Please help me.
Didn't Obama already fix that?
I had to to pay cash for something! Can't you understand the horror?
What about toothpaste? Is that covered? People's teeth are literally falling out.
Oh, so let's cover the toothpaste, but NOT the toothbrush!? Why don't you just behead me and get it over with??
Toothbrushes will be subject to the medical devices tax, which is used to subsidize toothpaste for the poor.
Dentures FTW
Fuck you Anderson.
Fuck. You.
He's been really cunty.
Yes, cunty ever since I first saw him many years ago.
Trump looks Rob Ford-ian up there, bored and fidgety like a little leaguer in rightfield.
Stay sharp. You can throw out the fat kid at first if he hits it to you.
Geez, he just brought up Gruber without the actual context of his lies to America.
Question for both candidates...on how Trump is creating Islamaphobia. Totally random, I'm sure.
Seriously? Why do Republicans agree to have these guys "moderate?"
Slade accurately sums up the net-net of any possible outcome of this contest =
"Gruber. That's a pussy I want to grab."
I'd have actually voted for the first time if Trump used that line.
I now see the point of burqas.
It's early, and it's Trump, but I think he's stopping his campaign from imploding.
Wait til next week.
Fat Muslim Woman is gonna be in some shit for not covering her face.
Robby, having nothing new to offer, is pimping his OLD stories.
I tell you what. If I saw Hillary walking towards me with something in her hand I'd be concerned.
Are Muslims deplorable?
Not if they vote Donkey.
In what context did they mention Gruber?
Trump mentioned him when discussing the ACA. Said he was an architect who lied to pass it, called the law a fraud. Then Trump went and promised to keep preexisting conditions covered.
They were talking about O'care and Trump in his usual fashion name-dropped Gruber but his stream-of-consciousness just went somewhere else without explaining WHAT he did.
To be fair, he could've given a ten minute erudite diatribe chronicling Herr Gruber's Exploits in Fraud, Deceit, and Smug Condescension, and most people still would have been saying, "WHO?"
More people probably know who Hans Gruber is than know who Jonathan Gruber is.
Gruber is an appalling technocrat, and about as good an example of what TOP MEN do, and how they do it, that we're ever likely to see in public.
I don't understand how he's managed to escape more scrutiny, and why he'll never be brought to account. If not legally (I'm not sure he broke any laws), perhaps professionally. His academic career should have been ruined.
The magnitude of his lies is sickening. The reach of his machinations, astounding. And he remains mostly anonymous, highly-paid despite a feeble and unworthy body of research, and politically well-connected. I hope he gets stomach cancer with mets after the switch to single-payer, and the rationing panel votes no.
"Donald said terrible things about Muslims...and I want Muslims to report on terrorist actions, just like Donald said."
At least those Muslim countries can buy your allegiance, Hillary.
The Libyan people thank you for not going to war with Islam, Hill.
How many Muslim countries are we currently bombing...?
CNN vs. Trump.
The transparent bias is totally helping him.
Strangely, I think it is.
They're absolutely silent on Hillary.
And I'm out. Have fun! Remember, the more you drink the better they seem. Trust me.
Drink what? Lighter fluid?
Acetone, hydrogen peroxide, Drano, antifreeze, brake fluid....
Workin' on it.
They seem just as bad as before, but I don't care as much.
No. No they don't. The more I drink, the more likely I am to start ranting at idiots who support either of them.
i feel dirty, listening to this....
CHILDRENZZZZ!!! RUSSIANZZZ!!!!
More refugees, but with vetting!
Extreme vetting.
"Think of the women and children, like the one boy in the picture which is totally representative of the refugees."
Hillary just cited photo of 4 year old Syrian child bleeding after Russian bombing. Says the problem with refugees is caused by Russian aggression. How...the...fuck...
Hillary' not convincing anybody on Syrian refugees.
That's weak sauce.
Well she can't talk about Libyan refugees, every single one of them is Hillary's fault!!
Like she cares about the children.
She has an artichoke as a heart.
Hey...I like artichokes!
It's Russia's fault! They made Democrats bomb Syria!
Wow. Just. WOW.
CNN is the Democrat network for real.
The Giants are grabbing Rodger's pussy but they're still losing.
How can they grab his pussy from 10 yards away???
It's a big pussy.
"Geez you have a big pussy!,,,,,(((have a big pussy....have a big pussy)))*...."
*you know, like, from the echoes? -cue patented Sonny Landham Predator laugh-
You want to boast about Border Patrol agents endorsing you? They are barely a half-step up from the human dick scum that work for the DEA.
I agree but this is the American voter he's talking to. The Border Patrol is far and away the most Hispanic federal agency and they have large extended families.
True. He's not getting any libertarian votes anyway. Might as well max out the statist red meat.
He's not getting any libertarian votes anyway
He's getting more libertarian votes than Gary Johnson.
I agree.
Securing the border is one of the absolute minimum responsibilities of government, as far as I'm concerned. It's no more "statist" than having a military.
Hey there's a question for you down-thread, in case you haven't seen it, search for your nick.
God, the commenting system on this site sucks really bad for actual conversations.
It always has. It's part of the charm.
Debate moderated by the Albino Elf King, and Skelator's wife
And here comes the Wikileak meatball down the pipe. Will Trump nail it?
The Red Scare is BACK!
Strangely, putting debate on without sound - Trump actually seems to resemble the Pepe Meme more and more. Am i going crazy?
It's a 100% appropriate reaction, GILMORE.
You're not crazy, it's just a glitch in the simulation
It's the political equivalent of people growing to resemble their pets.
When you have piss-poor cyber security, blame Russia.
Right. Well, the wife's watching this shit so I don't have to. I'm going to have a martini and play some video games. Enjoy, folks!
Well, if she said that in the context of Abraham Lincoln, surely she will release the full transcript to prove how out of context that quote is?
Hillary: "THEM DAMN DIRTY RUSSKIES!!!
Sounds like we need another reset!!!
She needs to reboot her smile module - it seems to be on the fritz.
You misspelled smirk.
It was a rictus for the first 45 minutes.
THIS is a Rictus...
I'm seriously repulsed to see Hillary blame the Syrian refugee problem on Russian 'aggression.' There isn't a level of hell deep enough for this piece of shit. How great it would be to see a Rand Paul on that debate stage when she trots out some bullshit like that.
And now...CNN moderator says don't talk about his taxes because we're going to get to it later!
"Now she's blaming Abraham Lincoln."
Zing!
Hey, if it takes a civil war to hold the country together, watch our red states.
They let two Trump laughs get through without yelling at the audience. CNN is slipping.
File Under = Self-Awareness LOL
says the guy who just tweeted a dozen things about the 'gross sex stuff' while a policy debate was happening
All that talk about Hillary destroying the Middle East is just "Locker Room Talk".
Hilariously - 10 mins later
^this, while the debate is talking about the middle east
This is Classic Froot Sushi at its finest, having it both ways whilst comically and obtusely missing the point.
though undoubtedly it's still a serious problem)
Virtue. Signaled.
He still is.
Spencer Maass is a prime candidate for the woodchipper.
CNN's next audience question - what will you do to make sure the rich pay their fair share...
It's all random, folks. Just genuine questions from people of all walks of life.
I definitely recognized the skinny dark haired white guy who asked a question as an actor. I just cant place him but have seen him many times.
Hey guys, I've been in Quebecixo for the last two days, what'd I miss?....Oh.
Well I for one welcome the painful death throes of the republic. I'm with Gilmore on this one, Hillary 2016 and burn it all down!
*douchey white millennial walks up*
"What are you gonna do to ensure the rich pay their fair share?"
What a bullshit loaded question.
Cap everyone's taxes at 10,000 dollars so no one has to pay more than anyone else?
Hillary is blinking a lot. She looks like a snake. A very worried snake.
If Trump wins, long the Tredegar Corporation.
Fuck yeah!
"we are cutting them biggly"
"I've been endorsed by ISIS." Psst, dude. "I.C.E.".
It's like his tongue isn't as agile as he claims.
That's why he has to grab the pussy.
LEAVE ROBBY ALONE! *sobs*
File under = You hear what you want to hear
2 responses to the same thing.
I recognize everything but the 400 pound child.
She's in smug mode
That's a defensive position.
When isn't she?
I wonder if she has a couple hundred names for all the shades of smug she has.
+1 Eskimo snow
Isn't American GDP growth hovering in the 2-3% range?
No. 1.4% in the most recent quarter. It was 2+ in 2015 though.
Last I heard 1.7%
Hillary is totally going to make her campaign donors pay more! Pinkie promise! And calls Trump a liar while citing how...Trump didn't pay income tax for 20 years maybe. Because she has no actual clue.
"Everything Donald Trump just said is not true"
Life imitating South Park
Net carry losses = LOOPHOLE!
$250,000? What's that in Bolivars?
I'm afraid we're about to find out.
I keep reminding myself that Hillary hasn't had a favorable rating over 50% since July of 2014, and he unfavorable ratings have been clocking in at about 55% since January of this year.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/161.....-news.aspx
If you believed the media, you'd think the only people who think Hillary is a shithead are right here in this thread, but half the country can hardly stand her--even when she's paired up against Trump.
Like I said, Gary Johnson is winning this debate.
Clinton News Network
Don is scoring with the tax stuff.
You'd think he'd be weak with that, too.
At what point in the past did immigration stop being a net improvement for liberty? Be specific.
When it stopped being white or white-enough people.
When became (again) poor, poorly-educated Third Worlders. Ethnicity isn't the point.
Weren't most immigrants to America poor and relatively uneducated? Honest question. That's why they came here: for a shot at economic freedom, and a standard of personal liberty, that simply does not exist anywhere else.
Granted, that is different than strolling across the border and demanding welfare. But people who want to come here and work hard? We should let those people in.
Times change. 100 years ago, there was a lot of demand for manual labor. Not today.
1965
1492
So what you're saying is that mass immigration is a bad deal for the native population?
Well, they ain't eating rocks and lichen anymore, so it's not all bad.
There's actually some truth to that.
Does the Triangle Trade count as immigration? Because probably that just by its nature?
At the point the welfare state started to redistribute wealth to them
As opposed to "us"?
I think you've nailed it.
Immigration becomes a problem when you've been in the country long enough for immigrants to go to 'them' from 'us'.
There are studies which show that American immigrants become approximately as xenophobic as a native within a few decades, so.. yeah.
Out of Papaya's "Third World Peasants and Muslims," the "Muslims" cohort seems to be dramatically swamped by the "Third World Peasants" cohort. Specifically... Mexicans.
http://www.migrationpolicy.org.....-over-time
The 1965 immigration reform was the tipping point, but it didn't really get bad until the 1980s, with mass illegal immigration. That's when the large welfare burden started, bilingualism, shifting California permanently Democratic.
And it's been downhill since then. At the very time technology is making low-skill jobs obsolete, we get millions of low-skill workers, plus a lot of criminals, because we are not screening for quality. Now it's one anchor baby at taxpayer expense, and eventually you can bring your whole village.
The Muslim cohort is small but rapidly growing, and will continue to provide a good excuse for government surveillance, because Islam is fundamentally incompatible with the Constitution and liberty.
Oh, so your problem is with Mexicans, and their welfare burden.
If that's the case, why do you talk about Muslims so much, and Mexicans so little?
[citation needed]
It seems a little weird to blame immigrants for the Welfare state... wasn't that native born whites, in the statistical majority of voters, voting for that? Why focus your disapproval on the people receiving the benefits, instead of the people providing the benefits?
Peak foreign-born people as a share of the population appears to have been around 1890.
Why were all those immigrants "good" and all the immigrants since 1965 "bad" for liberty?
Cripes, how much can I fit in one comment? Of course I disapprove. But when you're in a hole, stop digging.
Which led to many social problems, and then immigration restrictions to deal with them.
Who said "all"? Immigration is often good, but like anything else, it's always possible to have too much of a good thing. And quality matters. It does not help the US to welcome the slum dwellers and peasants of Latin America. Or future jihadis from the Middle East.
"Slum-dwellers and peasanrs."
Papaya. Come on. How many of them live like that because that's all there is? Lots of them, right?
I'm not saying let them in and give them welfare and handouts. I think we can all agree that is stupid. But "peasants?" We're all peasants. Royalty is for Brits and Eurotrash. Americans are, culturally, supposed to revile the idea of royalty, and mock it every chance we get.
I mean poor, uneducated people from rural villages. Isn't "peasants" an accurate term? I don't mean "non-royalty." "Peasant" has never meant that, AFAIK.
In San Francisco we recently had a knife-wielding homeless drug addict shot and killed by the police. He was an illegal from Mexico (IIRC) who didn't even speak Spanish, just Mayan. Now, maybe he was not from a rural village, but he was certainly poor and uneducated. "Peasant" is insulting but not inaccurate.
Only goes back to 2010, though. There was a big jump after 2001, though.
If you think a graph that shows Muslims going from 1% of the population to 2% in the next 35 years shows that they are "rapidly growing" ... ok. We'll agree to disagree on their relevance of this absolute and relative growth.
In 1950 it was 0.1%
My problem is with: welfare burden, strained resources (CA drought) and public services, low education, low IQ, criminality, revanchism, ethnic separatism, the conflicts of multiculturalism, lowered social trust, destructions of traditions, empowering Democrats and statists.
It doesn't matter what country or ethnicity is the source of those problems. They are problems regardless. As it happens, yes, those problems are on full display with much of our Mexican and other Latin American immigrants, but if they were all Icelanders I'd have the same complaints. So I reject the idea that I am being racially prejudiced.
What percentage of these problems, in your view, is due to immigrants?
What percentage due to natives?
I have no idea, and don't care. If half the food in my fridge is rotten, I don't go the store and buy food that's half rotten, because that's "equal." I want the new stuff to be 100% good.
I don't need to know the "percentage of the problem" to look at LA's Most Wanted and grasp that there is an immigration problem.
If I summarize your view it seems to be that people from "advanced" countries are likely to be "better" than people from "less advanced" countries. You seem to wish to only allow immigrants of a certain social/economic class or higher. This seems to entirely buy into the idea of "progress" as unambiguous, and is an oddly ... progressive ... worldview to hear from someone who dislikes progressive politics so much. It's also anathema to the tradition of our nation as a nation where people who do not start out great can become great through hard work.
If you are concerned with the "destruction of traditions" then a hypothetical class-based system for immigration would seem to have meaningful challenges. Leaving aside that social class can change suddenly in either direction, is it fair to say that you would approve of a system in which people are considered individuals and evaluated individually?
So a Filipino doctor whose uneducated wife has childhood-transfusion-acquired Hepatitis and whose two children do not... we take only the doctor? It seems odd to suggest that America will get better if the only people we allow to immigrate are high social class people who are willing to leave their families behind. But if we are only accepting the best, what justifies keeping this family together?
Could you also explain how the pre-1965 status quo (which did completely exclude Chinese and put quotas on Italians but... did not limit Mexicans... and others from the Western Hemisphere...) was more in line with your ideal system?
My "ideal system" now would be to greatly reduce immigration. No poor, no uneducated, no criminals, no diseases, no Muslims. We already have more of those than we can deal with. And get most illegals out, ideally voluntarily.
How greatly? Give me a number.
Well, duh, of course a Swedish immigrant in 2016 is more likely to be educated than one from Somalia or Guatemala. Wasn't always the case, but it is now.
Yeah, yeah. Times change. We're a broke welfare state being crippled by multiculturalism and statism. We have a huge number of unassimilated immigrants. Time to stop digging this hole, and to stop the Democrats from changing the electorate in their favor.
Tough luck for the doctor. The Philippines needs you. Stay there.
Apparently they do not change very much, at least if we judge by the anti-immigrant rhetoric :
-- Representative Pat McCarran, 1952
I concede that the Welfare state does make immigration "worse" but I find it more than a little suspect that all the rest of your arguments were made in 1952 and before that, in 1924.
Italians were, in 1924, all of the things Mexicans are today. Was it a mistake to let them in? Has their presence in the United States been a net negative? Why are Mexicans (and Muslims?) different? How are they so unlucky to be the ones for whom this argument, which was wrong every other time, is now actually accurate?
You must be short b/c Papaya's point zoomed over your head.
In earlier days we did not have multilingual govt or schools that facilitated separateness and most people liked the 'melting pot' idea. Now we encourage anti-American behavior and put up roadblocks to assimilation. As long as those features are in place we should limit immigration to people who will most likely assimilate.
Thank you, BigT.
For Mexicans: sheer numbers, plus a revanchist movement.
For Muslims: Core anti-American, anti-Western, anti-women, anti-gay, anti-liberty beliefs.
Redistribution to citizens is not a liberty positive thing either. Are you somehow arguing that this demographic pays more in taxes than it gets in goods and services ? How odd, I didn't realize that most of the immigrants were so wealthy.
Glad to see you agree.
Oh yes, I've been a naughty boy, debate harder!
I have no idea what the actual intent of this tweet (or re-tweet) is
I guess the idea is that Sally is so nuts that saying something like, "We should have better relations" sends her various conspiracy narratives into short-circuit mode, as though he just confessed to DNC hacks and trading nuclear secrets for Russian whores or something.
He's said that before. He's said he'd work with Russia in Syria against ISIS, if I remember correctly. And it's one thing he's absolutely right on.
Honestly, I don't understand why getting along with Russia is a bad thing.
I guess people think we'll be capitulating.
Depends on what we have to concede to get along with them.
Putin would probably be content with our getting out of Syria and the Ukraine and ending the sanctions. Of course the problem is.... well, I don't know what the problem with any of that is. But it's bad somehow.
Sally probably got hung up on the talking point that Trump will nuke Russia over an insulting tweet and forgot the one about Russia being his top supporter/donor.
"SICK BURN"-SOAVE STRIKES BACK
"Robby Soave's Foreign Policy" is probably up there on the list of retarded things you never want to hear, along with with " Writing Courses by Shikha Dalmia".
Sally Kohn and Peter Daou are great follows if you're into the Baghdad Bob thing.
And, calling time
Wait a second, they're still going on?
how long is this nonsense?
90 minutes
Real question: "Ms. Clinton, how does raising taxes on the rich grow the economy? How does it create more jobs?"
Hillary doesn't even have any 30 years in public service. You aren't in any god damn service when you are married to the president even if he lets you pretend that you are.
Each time Hilary smiles a child in Syria dies.
"Worked to rebuild New York." The entire city was destroyed after 9/11, I remember.
The people rebuilt New York, not politicians.
Are you saying Hillary Clinton is a liar??
Well, politics got the WTC (about 2/3) rebuilt in only 15 years. I mean, come on.
And thanks to me, several million children aren't around to be a burden to their parents and communities!
Man, DT's yokels in the audience are on fire!
Don't you have a mortgage to pay?
As opposed to the retards like you braying for Hillary Clinton, the living embodiment of Progressive rot.
You'd think "american socialist," someone who unironically praised the Soviet Union for forcibly removing entire communities of people to prison camps merely because they were Muslim and who is also incredibly bigoted against Asians, specifically the Chinese, would be a full-throated supporter of Donald J. Trump.
It's like that episode of Star Trek where Kirk communicates with the Romulan commander who tells Kirk that "You and I are of a kind. In a different reality, I could have called you friend."
It's different if you use terms like "ending religion's opiatic influence on the masses" and "reducing the influence of the foreign petty bourgeois".
I see.
The racist and the socialist struggle within american socialist.
I mean, a hatefuck is a struggle, right?
Struggle. Ideological fit hand in glove. Who's counting?
They're deplorables, but they're loyal deplorables.
The same thing about the Syrian kid that Clinton mentioned?
I think Trump is doing a pretty good job.
I expected him to crater like no one's ever cratered before. The fact that he's had Hillary on the defensive despite what's hanging in the air is impressive.
He shouldn't be able to get her on the defensive like that under these circumstances.
He's kicking her ass. All she has are nothingburgers, platitudes and vagaries . "I have spent the last 30 years working to help children and families"
I wonder if she's as proud of all the lives in the Middle East she's helped ruin as she is of her "30 years in public service."
My comeback: The ones in Haiti, Libya, or Kentucky?
ALEPPO!!
What's that?
Describe it one word? A wonderful public servant.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuWbFt_VMAAlVvw.jpg
Awesome.
Dog food?
Google analytics showed that "what is a lepo?" Was the number 1 question on merriam-webster's website for 21 minutes after that question.
But Gary Johnson is a fucking retard for not knowing. Smh.
Martha Radatz always sounds like she's on the verge of tears.
Oh, Aleppo question.
How many people you reckon have been pronouncing it 'Ale-po' until Gary Johnson?
The clown crisis in America continues unabated.
The clown crisis has now spread to Australia and the UK.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-10-08/ creepy-clowns-arrested-in-us-as- trend-spreads-to-australia/7915284
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/oct/07/ creepy-clown-sightings- craze-speads-britain
So this year, the Democrats are into Russia-bashing. In 2012 it was all, "the 80s called, giggle giggle"
In Russia, Democrats bash you!
"Stood up to Russia?" Reset button.
Slade "Woulds" Anderson Elf-King Coops
I thought you said 'wounds,' and I thought you meant outrageous 70's glam-rock band Slade. My disappointment is heartbreaking.
"
@MattWelch I would take Anderson Cooper over literally anyone who will actually be on the ballot."
Matt wants to grab him some pussy!
Hang on. Russia isn't interested in fighting ISIS because they want to keep Assad in power? Isn't Assad fighting against ISIS?
Not a single god damn thing she said made sense. It's as coherent as whatever Donald is rambling about right now for half his response.
Why the fuck would she have more leverage with Russia than Obama?
The point she was attempting to make was that the rebels who are the greatest threat to Assad at this point are not ISIS, so Russia fights them instead of ISIS.
The rebels aren't a single entity. It's an Arabesque diverse coalition of sorts. Some of the rebels are aligned with ISIS.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-24403003
Whatever she was trying to convey, it was awkward. And I didn't expect Frick and Frack to catch it and push her on it.
Russia tents it's hands, says "Good, good."
Hillary's obsession with Russia = damn those Russkies for exposing my server screw up.
DT:TO WAR WITH IRAN!!
Fuck. Our nuclear program is old and tired.
Runs on floppy disks.
Considering most Millenials have most likely not even seen one, much less had or have a use for one, this may not be an entirely bad strategy.
Seriously, put a kid who's a wizard with smertphone in front of a 486 and see if they have the attention span for just the 486's boot sequence by itself... Tell ya what, I'll be a sport and I'll throw in a AMD-K6 III, 450mHz.
In Soviet Russia, lies tell Hillary Clinton.
Clinton News Network
Why won't Donald answer my loaded question on the 'humanitarian' issue in Syria. Which is our problem despite the humanitarian issues all over the world that we ignore.
Picture a small child being killed in Aleppo. Why wouldn't you bomb them to save them?
Why is she laughing about? WTF?
I doubt she's heard anyone criticize her to her face before.
He's really giving it to her. She's not used to being talked to this way.
She happy they managed to talk about Russia this long.
Are we responsible for any fixing any other humanitarian crises, or is Syrian the only one?
HILLARY ZOOM!
That was fucking horrible.
I threw up in my mouth a lot.
I missed it, what was that?
The CNN feed split screen just suddenly zoomed in on Hillary while Trump was talking. Thank fuck I don't have a 3D TV.
Temporary black hole in heart sucking in the camera.
Is this Hillary talking or the "journalist"?
Who was the Republican genius who let her on?
Martha is now debating Trump.
Yeah, WTF was up with that.
DT: Because of HRC AND Obama we won't be sending hundreds of thousands of troops to Iran [that's bad]
american socialist|10.9.16 @ 10:10PM|#
"DT: Because of HRC AND Obama we won't be sending hundreds of thousands of troops to Iran [that's bad]"
They already did, asswipe.
The moderator is now debating with Trump. Openly.
The moderator is now debating with Trump. Openly.
I'm in the middle of a months-long acid trip, aren't I?
IS THIS CHICK FOR REAL?!
Holy mother of me.
"Tell me what your strategy is."
Was that an audience or a Facebook question?
Yay, enablers and trainers in Iraq?
Ed: Wow Raddatz going to bat for the establishment on Syria. This line of questioning is dumber than stuff Trump's said
This is why Ed is my favorite writer.
Trump's right on Syria.
'...psychological warfare...'
This. This comedy. It's not making me laugh.
Am I debating her or you?
Telling the enemy when and where you are going to attack is a very effective psychological warfare tactic. No, really. It is.
Stop laughing goddammit.
Who on earth is this moderator, and when did we start debating who would be the best friend of Syria?
If we can just kill ISIS's leader, that will do the trick. I'm sure we haven't even thought of that before. Obama must really be incompetent. And we will arm the Kurds...
Hillary won't arm the Kurds because Turkey. It's inscribed in stone at the Dept of State. She's fucking lying
Bagdaddy!
Jesus...yea, totally impartial questions here.
Who is that pink guy in the audience?
It's only 20 fucking years the Kurds are fighting the real fight.
Nick "Elevating the Discourse"
He'll totally get back to you on that, nick
It's just locker room talk.
Locker rooms involve men in towels talking about rape. There was no rape there.
In the locker room, I let my towel do the talking.
"NO! You're a TOWEL!"
Every question in this debate has been aimed to target Trump. The debate moderator shouts over him which hasn't happened once to Hillary, then tries to refute his criticism of Obama. That wasn't even what they try to call 'fact checking.'
What's funny is how quick Nick and Reason are to spot the obvious and ridiculous attacks on Johnson, but how they want to pretend that this is impartial media when it's Trump. Because Trump is bad.
This moderator is seriously trying to make me sympathize with Trump.
Same.
"They talk, they don't get it done..."
Deep devotion
uh, yeah, what a shocker... the wake of World War II, when we were the "Arsenal of Democracy"? Who would have guessed that? Real insight there nick.
"Take a look at Upstate New York..."
It's a dump.
OMG, more about the childrunz...
Total, utter bullshit on the child story.
I love Hillary's "I'm a human" anecdotes.
They need a better writer for that subroutine.
It's as good as it gets, given the OEM hardware. Any deviations and they keep getting BSOD's.
Getting 67% of the vote in NY as Democrat.
As David Spade said about people riding around in Limosines: Oooh, you have seventy dollars.
Its been 10 mins since Robby tweeted about Sexual Assault... can someone check in on him? I'm worried
He's currently occupied with plagiarizing articles from Frat Boy Buzzfeed again.
I'm jealous. You two were part of the group the weekend troll called out as secret Trumpets.
You can tell by our secret dance.
*winks*
Have we confirmed Sarah as Bo? The whole "you're all secret Trump supporters" talk from Friday reminds me a lot of his "you're all secret republicans even if you're not Americans" claims.
Ask it. It's down below.
Was dajjal/AddictionMyth's schtick.
Dajjal/AddictionMyth are way more unhinged, this one has Bo's habit of going "yes you've said all these things but I'm going to ignore them and make up what you really said/focus on one aspect of your statement and blow it massively out of proportion" down, along with using an unearned title for no real reason.
Yes. But D/AM has accused me of being a "Trump supporter" in just the way you have described several times. It doesn't mean that the Venn diagram of Bo/D/AM/etc. isn't just one big circle.
OMG TEH TRUMP IS SO MEEEEEEEEAN
Trump is causing the bully bump? This debate is getting worse. Didn't think that was possible.
"She has tremendous hate in her heart."
It all begins and ends with "the sex tape".
ENB gets double-negative detraction
She's not unproud of that .
Wait...Anderson Cooper just asks Hillary if Trump has the discipline to be president.
Trump's supporters position after the pussy tape was that it was the media creating a storm from dust. And then the media becomes transparently bias in the debate.
Tell me this shit ends at 10:30. I'm not even watching and i'm exhausted and sick of them.
Probably not. No way fucking useless POS BJ Upton gets a hit here.
Top.Men. and "National security Republicans" agree with Hillary that Trump is unfit. I see that as a Trump endorsement.
This better be a good audience question if...oh yeah, Supreme Court!
The current court isn't progressive enough!
Hillary is so tone-deaf. She's really going after money in politics?
Just Dark money. Racist.
Oh, you... bastard.
MSM doesn't report on her corporate contributions, so why not?
Why not? She knows the media will let her get away with anything.
Yeah, all the money Trump raised from Wall Street?!
Nothin'.
They all gave to Hillary.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/he.....1469784601
Trump just asked her why she isnt putting any of her own money into her campaign. Moderator cut that shit off quick and moved on.
She'll go after money in politics.
As far as she's concerned, once she's elected, the only politician worth buying has already been paid for.
Thank you for reminding me you want to keep Roe v. Wade.
"dark, unaccountable money out of politics"
Racist
Ooohhh good catch. Especially with Harriet Tubman going on the $20.
Re the Tubby: gun or no gun?
Great racists think alike.
"I'd like to see dark unaccounted for money out of politics".
----Hillary Clinton
"I'd like to see dark unaccounted for money out of the Clinton Foundation".
----Ken Shultz
I want Supreme Court justices who understand the system of checks and balances and rule on the law as written as they're supposed to instead of justices who support specific policies that you personally agree with.
I want a Supreme Court that will lick my ass when I ask for it.
2nd Amendment
UGH. PRONOUNS!!
Who is this guy? He has balls. I like balls.
Vermin Supreme is much more deserving of the libertarian vote than GayJay is
I now know who I want to write in as vice president.
Almanian 2016!!!!!!
he's got the biggest balls of all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W-fIn2QZgg
That fly likes Hillary. Make your own joke.
When the log rolls over, we will drown, we will drown.
I like the "pay for your campaign yourself" line
Not watching; has anyone asked what she'd ask for a SCOTUS seat? Whether the Clintons would take a Motel 6 franchise for the Lincoln Bedroom.
Shame about that kid; if she weren't so ugly, the Clintons would be much wealthier.
Her priorities are gutting the 1st and 2nd amendments. Oh, and she's bravely the only person standing in support of abortions and gay marriage.
Audience questions tend to be intelligent.
At least compared to the "moderators."
Trump nailed her dick to the floor on making money as the Secretary of State!
That was sweet.
And she responded with a rant about the Second Amendment?!
She's unhinged.
I can't believe that one threw her off. Shit, I can't believe Trump thought enough to mention it.
That poor virgin red-sweatered bastard.
Ugghhh Shikha....uggghhhhhh. She's deranged to the power of three Sudermans.
"How can we have all the energy we need while reducing our dependence on fossil fuels without sacrificing energy jobs or our lifestyles?"
By harnessing unicorn farts?
Holy Shit - this is real??
For making me laugh, you get this.
LOOOOOOOP-HOLE!
Old Clean Coal
Was a merry old soul
And a merry old soul was he
Blah blah blah blah blah
Blah blah blah blah blah
Actually this joke isn't very funny
Boomer tries his hand at wit - we say: Not Bad
needs bionic sound
Hillary is wondering whether to have the Sangiovese or Syrah tonight as she watches orphans rub her cankles.
She'd better not be drinking while she's taking Coumadin. That'll fuck with her.
I don't want to see her keel over and bleed out right there on the stage.
....No, seriously, I don't want to see that....
....Why do you keep laughing?...
Trade Prosecutor??
YOU'RE OUT OF YOUR ELEMENT, NICK
Outside of discussing twenty year old pop culture and ghostwriting Alyssa Milano columns, what exactly is Nick's element?
trying to insert Marshall McLuhan references into political live-tweets.
*he actually did that.
...
Nick you motherfucker.
ARE WE GOING INTO OVERTIME?
Trump is buying steel from China. Um, I believe so is every other consumer in the U.S.
Is it safe?
Oh, God, the why can't you be nice question?
I want to hate her for going there, but seriously tho = Points for *creativity*
I mean, its like when the joke gets so stupid that it comes out the other side even more awesome? #TrumpRape
They're feeding Hillary lines through the fly
Has anyone checked her ears?
DAAAAAAAMMMMMMNNNNNN that's a good question
Give this Becker guy a moderator job.
Clinton just said she is against chinese steel putting american steel out of business and she will do something about that.
Who at Reason earlier today claimed Clinton is pro-free market? I don't know if that is her public or private position.
Substantive stuff.
She said she'd have a special prosecutor for price dumping.
You know, beyond the FTC that already polices it.
You may as well add 'yelling at clouds' to climate change policy.
Hillary knows nothing about economics, the oil industry, and how completion works in a free market. I do not care if cheap oil is hurting the oil industry. I care about running my car, and heating my home.
* Competition
I don't know about your car, but global warming should be able to heat your home.
/sarc
almost,... Almost
"We have sneaked in one more question."
The English language is really getting it hard in the pooper tonight.
Theyz goin' old school.
Go to hillary.com! WE GOT T-SHIRTS AND MUGS!
For a $100,000 mug, you get to be Ambassador to Luxemburg!
on a related note, ENB won't stop saying "Pussy".
Lizzie loves Robby and mentions him often. Why do you have a problem with that?
She's afraid Troomp The Combover Conqueror will swoop in and snatch him away from the warm, safe-space, tender, Fruit Sushi laden embrace of ENB and her nourishing bosom. There would be much lamenting, much seeing of enemies driven before you, in a bigly loincloth.
Wow. Hillary wasn't prepared for that question.
Best "Adding a little personality" tweet so far
I respect NOTHING.
Actually, Trump's answer was excellent.
Yeh. It addressed her directly. She vicariously did it through his kids.
And she dropped the kids after 5 seconds to talk about herself.
And doubles as an ominous warning.
She respects DT's entitled, crypto-fascist brood? Why?
Trump: What I like about Hillary is that she lets her husband grab pussy.
heh
And here is the tweet where Nick finally lost his mind...
It is always there, just below the surface, not so carefully hidden.
"They mostly come out at night....mostly...."
Ok, you guys. Answer the question. What do you respect about Hillary?
I respect that I don't think she has much longer to live, given her health. Or maybe that's just wishful thinking.
Nothing.
She is very good at getting away with murder.
She's like the Ray Donovan of politics!
She sold American security interests off to the highest bidder as Secretary of State, everyone knows about it, and she's poised to become the next President of the United States despite that.
You respect that like you respect super villain. That's fucking astounding!
sold American security interests off to the highest bidder as Secretary of State
Doesn't this make her a libertarian? This is what capitalism is, right?
No.
The Secretary of State selling political favors to foreign governments is not capitalism.
Take a look for yourself:
"In all, governments and corporations involved in the arms deals approved by Clinton's State Department have delivered between $54 million and $141 million to the Clinton Foundation as well as hundreds of thousands of dollars in payments to the Clinton family, according to foundation and State Department records."
http://www.motherjones.com/pol.....arms-deals
"Hillary Clinton Oversaw US Arms Deals to Clinton Foundation Donors"
Mother Jones
When Trump was talking about Hillary making money from her office as Secretary of State, this is what he was talking about.
Sales to foreign governments requires the approval of the Secretary of State, and when she was the Secretary of State, she accepted money from foreign governments and defense contractors who had deals before her that were waiting for her approval.
The figures Mother Jones quotes are just the ones that were approved by Hillary.
She's a crook.
That she almost kept Obama from becoming president.
She's very good at staying out of jail.
She's ensuring her child and grandchild(ren) have a good life.
Only if you think wealth and privilege make one's life a good one.
Druish Princesses the galaxy over agree with this. Indeed, both my wife and I have found it rather advantageous, actually.
But don't you feel a hollowness inside that money and power can't fill?
No, I'm not talking about grabbing pussy.
Yes, that hollow space I feel is my wife's whilst we enjoy our happily married fun time. The money and privilege simply keep us in the level of comfort to which we have become accustomed.
And she grabs my Groovy bits unprovoked more than I grab hers, incidentally. So, we are quite happily married and very much in love, even with the nearby war zone.
Seriously? She's extremely persistent. She never gives up.
(mind you, what she's persistent ABOUT is horrifically bad, but she's persistent)
"She can't be bargained with. She can't be reasoned with. She doesn't feel pity, remorse, or fear. And she absolutely will not stop, ever, until you're dead."
Yep, pretty much.
..I recognized the quote, but didn't remember from where... I had to look it up.
What Are You? i know the Quote
Well,I just saw the comments over 40 and wondered what I'm missing? Is there something important going on? [ opens another beer while watching the game ].
400 that is. Neither QB looks good tonight.
Trump basically praises Hillary for the opposite of what he said throughout the night...which is that Hillary is all talk.
Mind blown.
No, he said she's a fighter and doesn't give up...meaning fighting for herself, I imagine.
He didn't say she fights for actual policies.
Trump didn't damage himself in there.
Pretty sure Anderson had to rearrange his junk there.
Did somebody grab his pussy?
Is it sexual assault if you grab yourself? What if you're drunk?
Is it sexual assault if you grab yourself? What if you're drunk?
Squirrels really liked that one.
Since, apparently, according to American Media and social networking, only men are gropers. So the sqvirrels figure nuts are involved.
It gets really complicated with Siamese twins.
For that matter, aren't Siamese Twins above the law? If one of them commits murder, you can't send just one to prison.
Saw what you're saying is that if they put their heads together, they'd be able to concoct the perfect crime?
Kind of disappointed that no audience questions were about grabbing pussy.
She has been working for years to help kids and families and she wants to take that experience to the whitehouse.
Also, that memory we used to share says goodbye to the pineapple and the last time you saw tenderly sees to the child.
I going to the football game. I've been building it up on the TiVo.
I think that was a huge win for Trump.
Everyone tuned like they were watching an Evel Knievel jump--hoping to see him crash and burn.
He came out ahead, and when you consider that all he could be expected to do was lose gracefully, he actually won.
I came into the debate thinking it was over for Trump.
Now I'm not so sure.
That's a win for Trump.
Anyone remember the Clarence Thomas nomination battle? Clinton presidency? Funny how politics keeps getting more and more nutty.
Shit. I remember LBJ talking about guns and butter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyTCtbYNzRg
Trump exceeded my expectations. It was awesome great that he was willing to call her out on her lies and contradictory stances along with pointing out that while he said some stupid shit about women, her husband was actually a sexual predator.
And his answer to the tax question was fucking money. I'm not voting for the guy but it was great to finally see Clinton on the defensive.
My impressions of the tweets =
The good/best
- Shakford wins prize for "always coherent" - a feat in the short format, and for someone 'not actually watching' like me, actually informative
- Slade wins on wit - turns boring into interesting
- Ed is runner up on jokes - gets points for good re-tweets
The bad/worst =
- Shika: wins "the worst" prize - she managed to utter one painful inanity after another. the capper (there were many contenders) in my mind was..
- Robby scores runner-up worst for babbling about 'sexual assault' for an hour, then moaning that 'too many people are focused on 'sex stuff' and not foreign policy'... then jumping headfirst back into more moaning about 'sex stuff'.
The booby prizes
- Matt, staying cool shouting out the dude from Nirvana and moaning that he needs to get drunker
- Sally Kohn wins as "Reason's Retard-Mascot"
- Boomer wins "Most likely to soon replace Soave"-award
- ENB & Lauren Krisai win the "incomprehensible girly gibberish" prize
That's awesome.
Was there a time back in the day when day when shikha columns were more reasonable? I don't really recall when she arrived or what she used to write about
Yes. there was a time when she did the whole "Write what you know" thing, and wrote case-studies on various aspects of Detroits problems w/ finances & governance, or interesting stories about India...
then, someone let her write about ISIS and Islamophobia and immigration, and the shitshow went off the rails.
Great minds don't think alike, but we said the exact same thing.
No, her India stories were always terrible and distorted from her unresolved daddy issues as an ex-Hindu atheist.
fine... but they were different at least. It was stuff about "things abroad" which no one else wrote about.
fine... but they were different at least. It was stuff about "things abroad" which no one else wrote about.
Lucy would have wrote about that stuff if you asked her to.
Lucy often did. She had some wonderful posts on organ donation, IIRC.*
*Yes, HM, Gabrielle Reece couldn't have set this one any better! If you don't spike it....
No, her India stories were always terrible and distorted from her unresolved daddy issues as an ex-Hindu atheist.
Yes, I distinctly remember you schooling Shiksa on the accuracy of those stories (she even waddled into The Gallery to confront you on a couple of occasions - RC is the other person with whom I remember her tangling in The Gallery over ObamneyCare and its subsidies).
That was shortly after the demise of your, "In a sane and just world....", posts. Which I miss greatly, BTW.
Yeah, when she was writing about Detroit, she was on fuego.
She gets obsessed with immigration. Any suggestion that maybe immigrants should have to show some identification before they set off bombs or whatever is seen as pure fascism, and that gave her a scorching case of Trump Derangement Syndrome.
If Trump quoted the Declaration of Independence, she'd swear he was dong it like a fascist.
Shikha's tweets all end in exclams!
Signs of deep thinking!
That's...one odd euphemism for her....wherever. Much phrasing. AF.
Van Jones on CNN said that Hillary won by Trump winning. Trump did fine tonight.
Curious as to what mental gymnastics were used there.
If Trump lost, Trump would've been replaced which would have been bad for Hillary.
Does the GOP have a mechanic at this stage to replace a candidate that I'm unaware of?
So, who won the debate?
Please tell me, I have to know!!!!!
Hint - not America.
"Hint - not America."
Dang it
Trump won.
. . . which surprises the hell out of me.
He had the debate he should have had the first time.
Well, he put out enough red meat for his base to shore up their support somewhat. I don't think he did much to win over undecideds.
Quite the ending to the Blue Jays/Rangers game.
Did someone get punched out again?
Sadly....no.
It was far less of a trump train wreck than I was anticipating.
Not that Clinton was especially articulate in my way - but don't you get the the impression that trump doesn't really understand anything? None of those responses seemed any more than evasions or some form of repetitive word salad.
If Johnson was in there it would be shocking as he would directly respond to each question - while probably not coming off well on all of them.
but don't you get the the impression that trump doesn't really understand anything?
That was my impression. Some of his responses were painfully obtuse. A buddy of mine compared him to Michael Scott from The Office and that seemed about right.
The stapler guy?
Oh, the protagonist?
That's perfect. It's that exact sort of painful embarrassment when you watch. I think that is permanently stuck in my brain now.
Thing about Michael Scott, though, is that despite his gibberish and personality quirks, he's actually an effective manager who runs one of the few profitable branches of Dunder-Mifflin and he will occasionally do something truly brilliant at a key moment...often by accident, but sometimes by a genuinely unique and competent insight that nobody else had.
If we actually got a Michael Scott performance out of Donald Trump, we'd be doing pretty well.
There was an episode where he went to a sales meeting at a restaurant with a potential client played by Tim Meadows, and totally nailed it using his natural personality and skills as a salesman. It showed that the Michael Scott character wasn't just a clueless idiot all the time. I hope the comparison with Trump proves accurate.
So... not going to wade through 500 plus posts. Buy tell me, is it worth pulling up on the interwebs and watching?
Not really. Less entertaining than the first one if you ask me - which wasn't a surprise - of course it's only entertaining in the sense that Mike judge appears to be more and more like a time traveler and not simply a film maker
If you missed the debates, at least you can watch the highlights here.
It was a real mud-slinging fight with Trump doing surprisingly well (after the first debate and post debate troubles I was expecting him to crash and burn, so my view may skewed - he's no Cicero, after all). Clinton gave her usual talking points, talked about her concern for the children, said the Russians want Trump to win the election, said Trump was unfit to be president, and talked about taking the high road. Trump demonstrated that he had actually practiced (biggest shocker of the night), pulled out a lot of his standard talking points, talked a lot about stopping foreigners from beating America at trade, hit Clinton on several of her weaknesses, said he'd prosecute Clinton and that she should be in jail, and had the line of the night (imo) in criticizing her from blaming Abraham Lincoln for her quote during the financial speech that politicians should have one policy position for the public and another in private. I'd say the news reactions that this was the nastiest presidential debate ever are correct. If all that sounds interesting to you, I'd say it's worth watching. If that description is a turn-off, then stay away.
Dana Bash trying to hit Trump on the "Hillary in jail" line. Brought up third world countries and African dictators.
That sounds racist.
Tapper now calling it a gaff. As if a presidential candidate vowing to enforce the law is a gaff.
You have to admit it sounds very bad, even if based on a legitimate opinion.
Paul Begala says it's straight out of the dictators handbook and then pivoted to Putin.
CNN really doesn't like that "Hillary in Jail" line.
These morons are finally saying something that will inspire people to vote for trump
CNN really doesn't like that "Hillary in Jail" line.
Because it's something that independents will hate.
This is the problem with the analysis here. Trump says things that play well with the people who are already voting for him, and you all declare him the winner. No, that's not what he needed to do.
I would like to meet the person who as of 10/9/16 is an independent, undecided, likely voter. I can't imagine such an animal still exists in the wild. It would be a bigger discovery than finding a sasquatch.
Trump is at ~40% in the polls right now, so he better hope they exist.
Trump's S.O.L.
It would be a bigger discovery than finding a sasquatch.
STEVE SMITH RIGHT HERE! DECIDEDLY RAPES INDEPENDENT HIKERS INDEPENDENTLY!
I was undecided. I was probably going to vote for Jill Stein. I've said good things about Donald Trump. Based upon DT's sheer douchebaggery, I think I'm going for HRC.
Based on the comments of a complete stranger on an internet board you've decided to vote for one candidate over the others?
Truly a creature of profound intellectual depth, you are.
Ha!
Apparently my vision got a touch fuzzy and misread your statement. Any ridicule towards me is completely warranted. Mock away.
😉
If, after almost 2 years of this BS, you are still undecided. Go fuck yourself.
If, after almost 2 years of this BS, you are still undecided. Go fuck yourself.
I meant it both times
On CNN, John King says the debate was the worst possible outcome for Republicans, as now Trump will stay in. Did he just admit the pussy tape was being used by Republicans to evict Trump?
That's just spin. Trump was going to stay in regardless.
would you be surprised if the GOP was the source of that tape?
Yesterday, yes. After that line where he said Republicans were telling him this was the worst outcome, no.
It's strange. I've never seen a party work so hard to prevent its own nominee from winning. The love of status quo defines bipartisanship more than anything.
He was not nominated by the GOP, he was nominated by Democrats crossing over in open primaries to vote for the weakest candidate.
Is that you Tulpa? If Hillary had been unopposed then Democratic crossovers might have happened, however she had a tight race with Bernie so I doubt that there was much crossover.
Yes. Their candidate's public validity has been reaffirmed. How awful for them.
It's a quite reasonable analysis, it's just amazing that this is the state of the party. I mean, tactically, spiritually, strategically, this election was an enormous cluster. And none of them saw it coming.
That's astonishing.
Trump: When I'm president I'm gonna get pussy galore.
"I'm gonna snatch victory out of the jaws of defeat!"
I'm still @#*)&@ amazed that this NBC "Fact Check" is real
I just don't understand why people aren't being fired left and right and the media isn't apologizing to everyone that "Seriously, we weren't always like this."
"Seriously, we're usually not like...sorry, let me try again: Seriously, we're not...HA HA HA HA HA I knew I couldn't finish that sentence."
Oh, you said *weren't* always like this...no, I guess not.
"You mean, like with a corrosive chemical, or something?"
How'd that Tet Offensive go?
Oh, and Walter Duranty says "hi."
"Trump said Hillary lied, but he forgot to mention that Bush lied, too."
I just went through their Twitter feed. So far ..
Trump Fact Checks: 5
Clinton Fact Checks: 0
Trumps sucks, but the media is worse.
Wash out the memory of the debate with something worse.
(If that doesn't inspire people to click my link, I don't know what will)
I, for one, welcome our new vaginal overlord.
Overlady, you cispatriarchal microaggressor.
That's not a lady, that's a lord, baby.
The stupidest part is: Hillary isn't beating Trump.
Trump is beating himself.
Well Curt Schilling, you have to admit that she's right, the poophole at gun shows does stink.
It's as if Hillary and the moderators were Tag Teaming Trump.
No way I'm following that link.
Obama cameo @ 1:01
Other commitments:
Did anyone ask Hillary what she'd ask for a SCOTUS seat?
Also, are the Clintons hoping to get a Motel 6 franchise for the Lincoln bedroom?
Damn shame the kid's so ugly; they'd have been far more wealthy if they could have shopped her around more.
So, I've just started watching it. Wish I had been here from the get go. I would have had a few comments right at the beginning about the guy in a white v-neck t shirt. You think the studio loaned him that supports jacket, or does he dress in a white t shirt and jacket?
Apparently the focus group reproduced during the debate. At least somebody had a good time.
Before the debate, some of the people were stocking up at the liquor store.
People need a Presidential Debate for an excuse to stock up the liquor store ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggyC0FOzqHM
I don't understand the Ken Bone thing.
OK, after seeing the post-debate video with the disposable camera, I understand.
Je suis Bone.
Like using the tax authorities against your political opponents? Or corrupting law enforcement to protect your political allies from prosecutions for obvious crimes? That ship has sailed.
Sorry, I haven't been very regular around here for months, so could someone explain the "fruit sushi" references?
ENB outed Robby as a connoisseur of fruit sushi.
A supposed millennial sexual trend involves inserting fruit sushi rolls into a rectum to enhance an orgasm. Robbie is a millennial, therefore the joke is that he is into anally pleasuring himself with fruit sushi. It's a juvenile and disgusting hit and run meme.
But how does fruit sushi fit in with the gun show poophole?
Snugly
Just checked the Twitter feed - a bunch of news junky dorks are making fun of another dork who is heavy and wore a sweater, and somehow they're all morally superior to everyone else. Got it.
You don't understand. It was a sweater with a zipper.
Ha! What a loser!
Ken Bone is getting some pussy tonight.
Don't wait, Ken, just grab it. Fame is a fleeting thing.
Grab its motherfucking pussy!
Feel the Bone!
Hope some people are still up. I'm on a 4-day pass and just got back from an epic road trip, which included machine guns and a drive through Death Valley.
It's funny how Team Blue only cares about sex scandals when Team Red does it. At least a few Team Red guys refused to defend Trump. Bragging about cheating on your wife is pretty bad. It's not a hanging offense, sure, but it does show a lack of character. And yet, many of the people who are outraged about this were perfectly happy to defend the likes of Bill Clinton, John Edwards, Ted Kennedy, JFK, Bob Filner, and Joe Biden to name just a few.
Today, I learned about an incredible rags-to-riches story of Bob Williamson:
http://www.miracleonluckiestreet.com/author.php
"From Homeless Drug Addict to Multimillionaire ? His Personal Turnaround"
Have you ever ended up at Hunter-Liggett? Looks like a wonderful training ground for tank warfare in the eastern European plain.
The trip sounds cool. Did you get my email with the grenade training video?
He's a CIS-gendered shitlord, I'm sure.
Sevo: never been there
Papaya: video wouldn't load for some reason
Try this one.
Anyone who has ever taken offense at the phrase "you throw like a girl" should watch Army grenade training. Many female soldiers could barely throw. Although there was one female soldier in my platoon who got the expert grenade badge.
I can't tell the nationality of the people in the picture, but they aren't US Army. I threw the live grenades from a concrete bunker and there was only one trainer there with me.
It's funny how Team Blue only cares about sex scandals when Team Red does it. At least a few Team Red guys refused to defend Trump.
There is also this idea, one that many of Reason's writers believe in, that Republicans always have to change/take action/ respond/ improve. There are never expectations that the Democrat party should do anything differently.
A charitable interpretation of this idea is that there's still hope for the GOP and the Dems are beyond repair, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
E-version of local (lefty) rag has the headline that 'Trump would put Clinton in jail'. I'll presume this is intended to be a slam on Trump rather than a pretty accurate view of where the hag deserves to be.
It was an honest threat from one lefty to another.
It should be his campaign slogan.
Everyone in the media is running with that as the "talking point" take-away.
they don't seem to realize that this resonates strongly with everyone who supports him, and forces everyone else to keep thinking about her misconduct.
Its stupid if they want want something to actually bash trump with. Its sort of like the above "Fact Check" = sometimes they reach too far in their desperation to haul her into office, and end up saying shit that just undermines themselves.
I spent all evening lighting my farts on fire. Other than one minor mishap, I feel like it was a pretty productive choice.
Ah, hell, I was working on an article for a trade rag; figured it was time 'way better spent.
Never was a fan of Shaw; not sure he is capable of dealing with defenses that have his (past) number. We'll see, but I'd be pissed if I were McCaffrey.
The latter sentence in response to your Cal fandom; sorry for the confusion...
Just because I went to Cal, it means I hate Stanford? Don't tell me what I should or shouldn't.... OK, you're right.
Shaw was classy about the targeting penalty. Rules are rules.
Just manscape the rest of your hairy ass to match the scorched ass bush you lost. I'm sure Dr. Mrs. Manhattan can ably attend to the rest. I recommend an analgaesic cream.
Lawyer Mrs. Manhattan. Somebody is going to pay for this.
"Med school....Law school....What's the difference?"
More people die from doctors mistakes than in car accidents. But even more die from lawyer-politicians 'mistakes'.
Fuck all y'all.
That whole debate was two snakes nervously blinking at each other.
Its 114 on the east coast. bless us with your poetry AC if you are coherent enough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo6UX5PXvlk
And may your Fucking be Epic. =D
Random thought: I wonder if the final assault on Mosul is being postponed until after the election. I remember that the Fallujah offensive in 2004 didn't happen until after the election.
I'm not a military person, but that makes sense from a political point of view. The Generals can blame a Foreign Policy fuck up on a politician, rather than take the blame themselves.
I was thinking it was a more a way for the incumbent pol/party to cover their asses. Hard for a guy to get re-elected if hundreds of American troops get killed the day before the election, although it didn't hurt FDR.
So a fly lands on Hillary during the debate. Frogs eat flies. Pepe is a frog. OMG meme magic is real! Praise Kek!
Other random thought: I checked out Hoover Dam on my trip and realized that it's the opposite of Obamacare. It was carefully planned, ahead of schedule and under-budget, and actually did all of the things it was supposed to do. The cost of the dam in 2016 dollars is about $700 million. In contrast, the Obamacare website's official cost was $800 million with an actual cost of about $2 billion.
How is it that a YUUUUGE construction project with 80 year old technology was a complete success while the much less complicated modern day project was a total clusterfuck?
There's actually a movement to have the Glen Canyon Damn removed.
Yes, people are that stupid.
They don't want to remove the dam, they just want to open the gates so that it no longer holds back the water. See, that's not so crazy, right?
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05......html?_r=0
Oh sure, that reservoir is really useful for a few people...but dozens of nature lovers are deprived of natural beauty!
read the comments on that ny times article. they really are that stupid.
there are SF idiots here that want to close Hetch Hetchy, which is where they get all their freaking water from.
Hoover Dam was contracted out to people who knew what they were doing. The O-care website was hobbled with near-impossible political requirements, then done by incompetent government agencies and some crony capitalists.
E.g. calculating the subsidies required connecting dozens of different computer systems at the state and federal level alone.
Member when migrant workers were very poorly treated and ended up living in unrealistic-government-schedule-created shanty towns in the desert and dying of "pneumonia" which was actually carbon monoxide poisoning from working in unventilated 140 degree tunnels? Member???
Mmmmm....memberberries.
Where my country gone?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5dmcceVIwY
So, i just finished watching the debate on the interwebs (better than TiVo!), and my conclusion is that the guy in the white v-neck t-shirt was some guy from the stage crew who got thrown somebody's jacket and was pressed into service as a seat filler.
...
Also, a couple of old people were saying absolutely horrible things about each other; things that no previous candidates would have ever said about their opponent. In fairness, there is a lot of material to work with.
Video catches CNN giving Hillary talking points to post-debate focus group
Watched the debate on PBS. Afterward there was a show called Masterpiece: The Escape Artist (pts I).
Great movie (show? mini? what-the-fuck-ever, crazy brits). Had one of the Dr. Who guys in it. I'm drunk now, and am gladd I watched it.
Well good! Good entertainment while you're catching a buzz is one of the things that make life worth living.
Tom Hanks says USA not doomed even if Trump is elected:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-7c2Rf_upk
ust as Tony explained I am surprised that a single mom able to profit $8608 in a few weeks on the internet
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So, who won this bitch?
The American people of course.