Bill Weld

Bill Weld: Media Is Publishing "Made-up" Stories About Me (UPDATED)

In an interview, the Libertarian vice presidential nominee vehemently denies reports by the Boston Globe and New York magazine that he is giving up, focusing only on Trump, and looking to bolt the L.P.

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New York magazine this morning posted a startling tweet:

The underlying post, headlined "Libertarian VP Candidate Bill Weld Gives Up, Will Focus on Preventing Trump Presidency," is an interpretative summation of a Boston Globe article from yesterday that begins like this:

The Libertarian vice presidential candidate, William F. Weld, said Tuesday that he plans to focus exclusively on blasting Donald Trump over the next five weeks, a strategic pivot aimed at denying Trump the White House and giving himself a key role in helping to rebuild the GOP.

But in a follow-up interview with Reason this afternoon, Weld denied that he was pivoting, denied that he would be focusing "exclusively" on Trump, and denied that he was working on any political future outside the Libertarian Party.

"I said to the reporter that I plan to focus on Donald Trump, because I think his international proposals represent a grave threat," Weld told me, "but in the same breath I said that I'm not going to omit to make the points that Mrs. Clinton, if she were elected, runs the risk of spending and borrowing us into the poorhouse, and that I think her fiscal policies and her military policies are not at all in line with the approach that Gary Johnson and I will take if elected. So nothing is to the exclusion of anything else. I did convey to the Globe the idea that I would be emphasizing the respects in which I think Mr. Trump's international proposals are wrong-headed, but that's nothing new—I've been saying that since Day One."

Indeed he has. During Tuesday's vice presidential debate, Weld did not behave like someone who was no longer going to be criticizing Democrats, instead using his Twitter and Facebook to say stuff like this:

While unconvincing to those of us who have heard it before from Republicans, Gov. Pence presented a bit more fiscal restraint. But, he enthusiastically embraced a social agenda that makes most Americans uncomfortable.

Senator Kaine, on the other hand, rightly rejected the Trump social and immigration extremes, but is saddled with Ms. Clinton's spending and tax plans.

That left tens of millions of nonpartisan Americans without a comfortable voice on the stage, a voice they would otherwise hear, and have, if the debates were not limited to the partisan extremes.

The Globe piece contains several paraphrased sentiments from unnamed Weld "aides" about things like "Johnson's flubs on national television," and then drops this scooplet:

At one point, Weld strategists researched Libertarian Party rules to see if it were possible for him to take over the top of the ticket. The rules state the vice presidential nominee automatically assumes the presidential spot if there is a vacancy. But Johnson, peeved at the suggestion, flatly rejected the idea.

"No, you can't do that—all 50 states have printed their ballots, so it's completely out of the question, even if it was a good idea, which it's not," Weld told me. But were his "strategists" looking into the possibility? "It didn't come to me," he said.

The former Massachusetts governor also rejected the Globe's assertion that "Weld's new plan calls for him to focus his fire on Trump in a handful of red states," saying "No, somebody's making that up."

"I mean, I'm going be tomorrow in Massachusetts, the next two days in New Hampshire, and then in Maine," he continued. "Those are not red states the last time I looked." Certainly, Weld's itinerary does not look like the schedule of a candidate who has given up.

Of particular sensitivity to Libertarians, given Weld's star-crossed history with the party and ideological departures from libertarianism, was this sentence in the Globe article: "He insisted he was not abandoning Johnson, although he signaled that bolting from the Libertarian Party might be a possibility in the future." Weld's response? "No, that's the most made-up of any of these phrases."

Clearly, Weld at the least has several friends who think that Gary Johnson is a dud, that Weld would hate to play spoiler to Hillary Clinton, and that he has his eye on post-2016 politics in some way. Recall that the originator of the Weld-might-drop-out rumor was his friend Carl Bernstein, on Sept. 16. When I asked Weld 10 days later when he had last spoken to Bernstein, he said: "I talked to Carl within the last two weeks," and then added:

Well, Carl and I are friends, and I think he's a good guy. He was just speculating, he made no bones about that. But it's not well-grounded speculation, and I do think the campaign seized on it to try to promote the rumor that I would renounce everything that I am doing. I'm not that kind of guy, and I sort of said so today [that it] would not be in character at all. […]

Last Friday, I got 25 emails saying "You idiot! You have to renounce or else you'll be a villain to the United States because you'll elect Donald Trump!" And then on Monday I got 25 voicemails at my office saying the same thing….These are from people that I do not know, so I have to think that was orchestrated from somewhere, and I would think that one possible source directly or indirectly would be the Clinton campaign. But that's who I am talking about. It's not Carl Bernstein. Carl was fine, he was just speculating.

While it seems plain that people in Weldworld are whispering to reporters, it's equally clear that the national media is hearing what they want to hear whenever the veep candidate says anything ambiguous. When he tried to make a post-"Aleppo moment" point to MSNBC's Chuck Todd last week that foreign-policy paper qualifications do not equal foreign policy judgment, scores of media outlets immediately misrepresented the remarks as gushing over Clinton's fitness for the presidency. As with Donald Trump's PTSD comments, we are officially in context-abandonment season, particularly when a new soundbite plays into a pre-existing narrative or suspicion.

"My impression is that some in the media, and definitely both of the establishment parties, would love to get me off that ticket," Weld told me. "And I don't know whether it's so that Mrs. Clinton can sleep easier, or whether it's so that Mr. Trump can sleep better—clearly he's been having trouble sleeping—but it could be both. If so, I'm flattered."

I interviewed Weld as he was on his way to record an interview for the great Fox Business Network program Kennedy. A little birdie tells me that the exchange was considerably more contentious than mine; you'll want to check in tonight at 8 p.m. to see for yourself! In the meantime, here's my interview with Weld at this year's Libertarian National Convention, asking whether his new party can trust him:

UPDATE: Weld addresses the Boston Globe article on Facebook:

In a story published in the Boston Globe, much attention was given to my grave concerns about the prospect of Donald Trump inhabiting the White House, and my determination to keep that from happening. The story did not, unfortunately, focus on my assurance that I believe Gary Johnson to be the best candidate for President, and that I would not be on the ticket with him if that were not the case. My Libertarian hat is firmly planted on my head, and will remain there.

Gary Johnson and I are committed to offering voters a way to break up the two-party duopoly that has given us policy paralysis and divisiveness with which most Americans cannot identify. If one of the results of what we are doing is that the two so-called major parties temper their hyper-partisanship, then so be it. That would be a good thing for the country.

Let there be no doubt. I am the Libertarian nominee for Vice-President, proudly running with Gov. Gary Johnson, and both Gary and I will be running hard and making our case right up until the polls close on November 8. Our ambition is to serve our country.

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  1. Even if Weld did spend the next five weeks going after Trump, he wouldn’t be getting any role in rebuilding the GOP.

    1. The enemy of my enemy is not my future nominee.

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    2. Yeah, that doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. If anything he might, MIGHT, be able to parlay his attacks on Trump into a role in rebuilding the Democrat party should he and Johnson “cost Hillary the election,” but I highly doubt it. If that happens all he and Johnson are going to get from the Dems is their eternal hatred and ire. And of course, in the event of a Trump victory, the GOP will see no reason to “rebuild” since they won.

      And if Trump loses, I somehow doubt that the GOP will suddenly decide to become more libertarian-ish. Maybe they will, in the same way the Dems went further left after Nader “cost Gore the election in 2000” but even if they do, Weld won’t be invited back into the fold. He and Johnson will both be persona non-grata just like Nader was/ is in the Democratic Party.

      1. And if Trump loses, I somehow doubt that the GOP will suddenly decide to become more libertarian-ish.

        I’m willing to bet they will. Simply out of the desire to win. What it won’t mean is that there be much of a role for Weld. There’s enough libertarians in the GOP to build a libertarian party without someone who abandoned ship.

        1. “There’s enough libertarians in the GOP to build a libertarian party without someone who abandoned ship.”

          Rand Paul and Justin Amash? Those are the only two I can think of. If there are more, they have been strangely quiet.

          1. Well, that’s among congressmen, 2 is bigger than 0.

          2. Thomas Massie

          3. Mike Lee. Thomas Massie. Hell, I think when the handwriting is on the wall, even Ted Cruz will come around.

            1. See Wikipedia on realigning elections.

              The great hope is that 2016 will crack the Nixon/Reagan/Bush43 coalition that the GOP used to make itself, however temporarily, the de facto majority party. When Johnson and Weld point out that independents hold a plurality over Republican or Democratic loyalists, they are right. That is a symptom of an ongoing dealignment, the result of which may be a period where there is no “natural majority” party.

      2. Libertarians already have Dems eternal hatred. So what else is new? Weld attacking Trump will draw more votes from the left than the right. He’ll be competing with Hillary to be the anti-Trump and will thereby draw more votes from Hillary. Any undecided potential Trump voters are unlikely to be drawn to Weld or Clinton because of their attacks on Trump.

  2. I’m beginning to think it’s wishful thinking all the way down.

    And Carl Bernstein cracks me up. I’d like to introduce young Bernstein to Modern-day Bernstein and let those two fuckers bitch slap each other until one of them cries “Clinton!”.

    1. At this point I’m of the opinion at this point if a Democrat was in office the Washington Post would never published a single article about Watergate except maybe mentioning a burglary occurred at the Watergate hotel in the local crime section.

        1. Yes. Bunch of partisan assholes they are.

          1. It tells you where we’ve gone in the media-sphere. One of the most revered journalists of all time starts criticizing the President– and the media goes apeshit. And to think that Woodward and Bernstein were the Gold fricking Standard for the media self-styling itself the “gatekeepers of Democracy”.

  3. I’m chuffed to see a positive trend; only 2 of the 11 hit and run pieces I counted as having been published this morning are covering the campaign. It’s 2 too many, but certainly < 20% is better than > 25%

    I hope this trend continues and eventually Reason is once again devoting their attention to meaningful news items rather than the meaningless high-school drama of who said what in an quite inconsequential presidential campaign.

    1. SIV hardest hit.

    2. What really gets me is that they are playing the same game as the rest of the media. They hone in on some awkwardly phrased thing the Trump campaign or he himself said, reach for the most outrageous interpretation imaginable and then hyperventilate about it until the next ill-advised wordage surfaces.

  4. There is a torrential flow of bullshit spewing forth from the gaping, decaying maw of the left-wing media about Johnson/Weld the last few weeks, and there is a preternatural level of coordination among multiple outlets.

    The Puffington Host immediately picked up the story and ran with it, hard: Even Gary Johnson’s Running Mate Seems To Be Abandoning Ship

    This is all, of course, at the behest of the Clinton campaign, which wants those dang Millennials to fall in line already.

    1. The more the media tries to give Gary a golden shower, the more my support for Johnson stiffens.

      1. Agreed 100%.
        I’m the strange Libertarian who considers Democrats the lesser of two evils. But watching the totally craven and ruthless torrent those Hillary shills are pushing I feel different lately.
        I just want the Demos to burn and burn good for awhile. I’m pretty much at the point where in contested races without Libertarians I’m going to vote R for a couple elections.

      2. These euphemisms are getting less obscure with each passing day.

        1. Those are not euphemisms.

  5. Isn’t Bill Weld the asshole who called Hillary Clinton a “fine politician”? Fuck that guy.

    1. He said something along those lines, as has Johnson. I know they are probably trying not to alienate Clinton supporters. But, it really pisses me off. The appearance of corruption that the Clinton camp exudes could be used to draw in more voters. At the very least it’s the best argument there is for a smaller government. But, when you say things like the poster child of government corruption is a ‘fine politician’, it takes away the most compelling small government argument there is.

      1. I don’t know. I view politicians as power-hungry, lying, self-serving, say-anything-to-pander-to-the-audience degenerates. By that standard, I’d have to agree that Clinton is a very fine politician indeed.

        1. Bullseye.

      2. appearance of corruption”?

    2. He’s also the guy who, in warding off a proposed ban on “assault” rifles, said that “pistols are the real problem” that the gun banners should be worried about.

    3. As a politician she is the finest of them all. She has the politics game down pat. She is the most politician-like of all politicians. This is not a complement! Neither is calling Trump a “fine fopdoodle”! Sheesh.

      1. Johnson actually said she was ‘A Wonderful Public Servant’. And, I’m still pissed about it for some reason.

        1. It’s the Robby Soave method of debating against your foes.

          1. I think they both got their coaching from South Park.

            https://youtu.be/TlqKFlU7YAs?t=17

        2. I’m think that GJ was “damning with faint praise” when he said that.

          I recall that the question was whether he thought she had any good qualities.

          1. Wasn’t it more like “Say the first thing that comes to your mind about the people I mention”? Then Hillary was mentioned, and he gave his response.

    4. Idk. Is it a compliment to say that Pablo Escobar was a fine drug trafficker?

  6. This just in:

    Johnson Cut Off By Weld

    -MSNBC

    1. Weld Burns Johnson

  7. Politics 2016: Bill Weld matters.

  8. The Clinton campaign and her media supporters are getting desperate. They’re shitting their collective in pants in fear that the LP is “stealing” votes away from them and they’re doing everything they can to drive a wedge between Weld and Johnson. That’s what the nonsense about Weld’s aides allegedly looking into taking over the top of the ticket is all about. These people really are slimeballs.

    1. The only thing better than Trump’s victory at this point would be Trump’s victory and Johnson’s exceeding the Clinton-Trump margin in a bunch of battleground states.

      1. Yes, because all the blame with none of the benefit is the core of voting libertarian.

        ^_-

        1. You mean you’re not looking forward to people in 100 years saying “first they came for the libertarians…”?

      2. Johnson’s exceeding the Clinton-Trump margin in a bunch of battleground states.

        If that happens, whoever loses will blame those dastardly Libertarians for spoiling the election. Either way, I’ve got plenty of popcorn and will enjoy the salty ham tears of unfathomable sadness.

      3. Oh, there’s absolutely no doubt Johnson’s percentage is going to exceeding the margin in at least a dozen states, maybe double that.

        1. Mondale only won his home state (plus D.C.) when Reagan kicked his ass in one of the most epic landslides ever. What a humiliating defeat that was for Mondale.
          If Gary avoided a shutout and managed to win his home state this time around, I’d be running naked through the streets in joyous celebration of his victory.
          Time to update my meds.

        2. WTF?

          Do you actually think GayJay’s poll numbers are reflecting the votes he’ll get on election day?

          1. 10 million votes.

            1. More like 1 million

              1. You’re even more delusional than I thought. BTW Trump’s going to lose.

          2. BTW Trump is going to lose.

          3. BTW Trump is going to lose.

    2. I’m trying to learn the brand of tinfoil that is necessary to conflate LP & Dem votes because that is a hell of a brand worthy of investment.

      1. Maybe some progs tacitly accept libertarians as more or less sane, not like those cookoo republicans , and since no sane person who isn’t a racist woman-hating yokel could vote for Trump, Johnson could only be stealing votes from Clinton?

  9. NO NEW FIFTH COLUMN NO PEACE

    1. Word on the street is that it may be recorded tonight, and maybe with a SPECIAL GUEST….

      1. Last week’s BEST EPISODE EVER suggests that when you guys go past your arbitrary 60 minute cutoff or whatever, it’s a better offering. Keep that in mind.

        It better not be Malice again, because that’s not special. Hopefully someone with an accent. Those ones have been good.

      2. Is there an RSS feed for the Fifth Column podcast?

      3. maybe with a SPECIAL GUEST….

        A hologram of Kmele? Give the people what they want!!

  10. I can’t wait for the premiere of 32 Short Films About William Weld.

  11. And each outlet is independently reaching the same, albeit erroneous, conclusion about Weld. Amazing how that happens.

    1. I listened to an interview with Weld today on The Takeaway
      The reporter interviewed him as if he had cried uncle and thrown in the towel on Gary and the campaign, but Weld wasn’t playing along. Weld had plenty to say against Hillary and Team D, and plenty to say for Gary and Team L.

    2. If I didn’t know better, I’d think that maybe they were coordinating their stories. Like perhaps they have some kind of list of other like minded journalists so that they could communicate and get their stories straight. A “Joun-o-list” for lack of a better term.

      Nah, that’s crazy talk. *adjusts tin-foil hat*

      1. They probably are just googling Gary Johnson and copying whoever posts the first hit piece of the day.
        Who is the MSM equivalent of Fist of Etiquette?

        1. I’m having an Aleppo moment.

          1. Said it before, say it again. Aleppo is one of the 57 (or 58) states. I don’t think this can be repeated enough.

    3. And each outlet is independently reaching the same, albeit erroneous, conclusion about Weld. Amazing how that happens.

      Happens a lot, doesn’t it? What an amazing series of coincidences!

      1. Doesn’t everyone in a circle jerk usually cum at the same time?

        1. I dunno. I never joined the Boy Scouts.

  12. I completely buy Weld’s story. He’s in it until the election.

    That said, he kind of deserves the rumor campaign for how he keeps going off message on the extremely, extremely simple point “BOTH THESE PARTIES ARE BAD”, which would seem to be a pretty easy thing for a third party candidate to remember.

  13. Is there some reason Weld don’t just respond to these people directly and say, “You’re lying”?

    1. Because they aren’t?

  14. So does this mean that the story about Bill Weld shacking up with the Bat Boy is also wrong?

  15. Weld at the least has several friends

    Is that what they call them? ‘people who talk shit about you in the national press, try to ruin your campaign’ = “Good buddies’?

  16. “[Pence] enthusiastically embraced a social agenda that makes most Americans uncomfortable.”

    I’m fairly sure that this is something that makes Eddie comfortable.

  17. This article seems to imply that someone, somewhere, actually considers the globe a media outlet. Please cite your source.

  18. Bill, are you ready to give up that “good kid” schtick, yet? She’s not a good kid. She’s a vile crone that represents everything that’s wrong with American politics that gave rise to Donald Trump. She isn’t just a little misguided on spending. She’s systematically more of a warmonger than Donald Trump has ever dreamed of being.

    Or are you such a doddering old fool that you can’t see when you’re being set up?

  19. Didn’t he recently publicly admire Angela Merkel? He’s dead to me.

    1. Don’t be emotional. Did he provide reasons…? What were those reasons…? Did he admire every policy she ever made…? Or did he admire how she was holding up to Germany’s impending financial ruin while dealing with a catastrophic immigration crisis…?

      1. Trump explicitly excluded the refugee decision. AFAIK Weld did not, and since open borders is a common libertarian position, I think Weld was praising that decision.

        1. Really? He was on the spot to name someone, and who else is he going to name? Some socialist? Geert Wildere? Trudeau? He picked a centrist European leader with a long tenure; it was a safe pick, nothing less or more. I’m not defending the guy in general, in fact I know almost nothing about him, but you’re making mountains out of mole hills.

  20. It’s makes feel a little good that Weld is at least willing and able to tell us the right lie.

    I wish I was kidding, but I’m not.

  21. Johnson and Weld do not possess the requisite angular-faced humorless self-serious myopia to truly spoil an election in favor of another disastrous Republican moron (Jill Stein is right on the money, the loon). They gotta figure out how to get out of this thing. Would have been nice if they’d done so before the ballots were printed.

    1. No democrat socialist, I will NOT hold my nose and waste my vote on Hillary Clinton, who is a bigger war monger than Dick Cheney, whose hero is Henry Kissinger, and in addition, supports the racist and un Constitutional war on drugs.

      No democrat socialist, I will NOT hold my nose and waste my vote on the racist war monger and foe of individual liberty, Hillary Clinton!!!

    2. “Angular faced..,”
      That’s racist

  22. From what I have been able to uncover it seems to have been the Clinton News Network that started the rumors that Weld was going to quit the campaign. Then other News Hackery Networks reported it as fact — because they are, well, hacks.

    Anything to discourage people from looking any further into Johnson and Weld.

    If there were only some way to triple cancel my cable. I won’t actually pay to read any News Theatre sites anymore for the same reason — except Reason and non-ideological Geopolitical forecasting sites — so I can’t even unsubscribe and let them know how much they suck. I guess the only thing to do is to deny them clicks so their advertisers will flee — but that would require large numbers of people doing the same….

  23. The democrat socialists are frightened that their candidate, the racist war monger and foe of individual liberty, Hillary Clinton, will not win.

    No democrat socialists, I will NOT hold my nose and waste my vote on Hillary Clinton, who is a bigger war monger than Dick Cheney, whose hero is Henry Kissinger, and in addition, supports the racist and un Constitutional war on drugs.

    No democrat socialists, I will NOT hold my nose and waste my vote on the racist war monger and foe of individual liberty, Hillary Clinton!!!

  24. Why why why does this guy think he is relevant? Oh that’s right Johnson showed how truly unqualified he was by selecting this slick greasy turd sandwich. If you are friends with Hillary and Carl freakin Bernstein you cannot be a libertarian. He’s clearly playing for some monied position fall out because he has no political future. Further while Trumps insane rhetoric and promises and complete ignorance in foreign policy realm, Hillary has proven at every turn she will light the world on fire with war and taking out stable dictatorships only to unleash much much worse. This woman wants to drone Edward Snowden. She’s the worst of Bush and worst of Obama combined! I have no confidence in Trump, but Clinton is a guarentee nightmare in foreign policy realm

  25. Wow- Bill Weld is with Her! Also, sky is blue. What did you expect from a Rockefeller Republican.

    Weld is an exquisite asshole and the abject failure of the Johnson/Weld ticket discredits the sell-out brand of libertarianism (most espoused by this publication).

    Next time, defend natural rights and don’t just wave aside anything that isn’t ‘hip’ as part of the ‘culture wars’. As Kennedy said during her interview: “this low tax liberalism is not all there is to libertarianism”.

    In the words of Murray Rothbard, in response to the election results of the Clark/Koch ticket, which I’m sure will be fitting after this election: “and they didn’t even get the votes”.

    1. ^The wise man speaks the TRUTH

  26. Damn. Damn damn damn dammit!

    Just found out again that Bill Weld is going to keep calling himself a libertarian.

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  28. Hopefully Weld does indeed bolt, the sooner he is no longer associated with Libertarians the better. Weld is Johnson’s biggest mistake.

    1. Weld is Johnson’s major unforced error.

    2. Considering Orlando is a town of around 250,000 – Gary Johnson at the LP convention had at least a quarter-million more libertarian than Bill Weld potential running mates he could have pulled off the street.

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  39. If Weld attacks Trump, it will draw more votes from Clinton. He’ll be perceived as another “anti-Trump” which is all Hillary really is (that she is not Trump), since she has little else to recommend her amongst the non-left. It’s unlikely he will draw any votes from Trump by attacking him. The people supporting Trump are used to the attacks, and any potential Trump supporter is not likely to care about non-right wing criticisms. So Weld and Johnson will be competing with Hillary for and be splitting the anti-Trump votes, which would actually be good for Trump.

    If Trump had a chance in California, I’d be sorely tempted to vote against Hillary through him. If Weld wants to help defeat Trump, he’d attack Hillary, thereby competing for the anti-Hillary votes.

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