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Video: More Crazed Yale Students Attack Staffer for 'Creating Space for Violence'

Think safe spaces aren't a problem? You might change your mind after watching these students shout at Nicholas Christakis.

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The Yale University student who screamed at Nicholas Christakis—former master of Yale's Silliman College—wasn't alone, according to several other videos of the incident from last fall that were recently publicized.

Indeed, a group of students hounded Christakis, and many of them levelled absurd accusations that he was promoting violence on campus. Others snapped their fingers to express agreement with the several agitated students.

"You have created space for violence," said one student. When Christakis said he disagreed with that statement, she replied, "You can't."

Another student was even less polite. "I am sick looking at you," this student told Christakis. "I am disgusted knowing that you work at Yale University."

As a reminder, Christakis's moral failing—in the students' view—was siding with his wife, who had recently sent an email to students expressing her disagreement with an administrative reminder not to wear offensive or culturally-appropriative Halloween costumes. Students don't need the university telling them how to dress on Halloween, said Erika Christakis.

The students who besieged her husband in early November of last year disagreed.

Students were also upset at the time about a campus fraternity party that had allegedly turned away black students, though that rumor was thoroughly debunked later.

The Christakis confrontation was back in the news last week after Yale lecturer Jim Sleeper wrote an op-ed for The New York Times in which he accused Foundation for Individual Rights in Education President Greg Lukianoff—who recorded the original video of the student shouting at Christakis—of revealing personal information about the student. Lukianoff did not do this: a Daily Caller article identified the student. The NYT was forced to issue a correction, thank goodness.

Sleeper's implicit point is that free speech advocates are misrepresenting the threat posed by the students themselves. But I suspect most people who watch these four videos of the confrontation with Christakis—which were publicized in a recent article by James Kirchick—will draw the conclusion that Yale is home to a small but significant contingent of students who are militantly in favor of emotional coddling and safe spaces. (Read Nick Gillespie's thoughts on the Sleeper op-ed here.)

Safe spaces, of course, have been in the news quite a bit lately—alongside trigger warnings, their first cousins. In the wake of the University of Chicago's controversial letter to freshmen warning them not to expect trigger warnings and safe spaces, many critics of the idea that a wave of political correctness is eroding free expression on campus have seized on the notion that safe spaces don't threaten anybody's rights. Vox's Emily Crockett gives "hair salons, gay bars, and black churches" as examples of safe spaces and describes them as places where members of a certain identity group—gay people, people of color—can feel at ease and safe from discomfort. Defenders of safe spaces have tended to point out that there's absolutely nothing wrong with people forming voluntary associative groups based around common beliefs or identity membership.

And they're right: this kind of safe space is perfectly fine, and no honest advocate of free expression would object to it. Free association is a logical extension of free expression. Students can and should take advantage of their right to sort themselves into private collectives.

But that's not really what's at stake in the debate over safe spaces. Free speech advocates object to students' demands for non-private forums—classrooms, residence hall common areas, public squares—to be be transformed into safe spaces. As Jonathan Chait wrote in a rebuttal to Crockett:

It is very strange to read Chicago's letter as a threat to forbid outings to gay bars or black churches. The letter is obviously directed at the common practice of delineating common public spaces on campus, like classrooms or auditoriums, to be "safe spaces" where political discourse must adhere to left-wing dogma.

The additional videos of the Christakis confrontation validate the letter's concerns about the overall climate for free expression on campuses—and the threat posed by hyper-offended students. The students demand that Christakis apologize to them. He explicitly did so, saying that he was sorry for "hurting their feelings." When they objected to that terminology and asked that he apologize for causing them pain, he complied. But then they pressed him to apologize for "creating space for violence to happen," Christakis had had enough. "That I disagree with," he said.

"It doesn't matter whether you disagree," one student replied.

It's crystal clear that these students want the kind of safe space that threatens intellectual freedom. Their ideal safe space isn't just a private area where they can go to be at peace with like-minded individuals. They believe that the entire campus is made unsafe—is made susceptible to violence—when people express views that clash with their far-left vision of social justice.

Read Shikha Dalmia on the threat safe spaces post to intellectual freedom here.

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  1. Your libertarian denial of the violence of words has literally killed millions of students in the past year, Robby. LITERALLY. I watched a poor young asexual aromantic queer-identifying latinx individual read one of your posts and then literally spontaneously combust. Xer spontaneous combustion killed many brave students around xer.

    You should be in jail, you scumbag.

    1. Telling students of Yale that the University should not police Halloween costume choices is worse than the holocaust.

      1. Most popular Halloween costume this year?

        A social justice warrior.

        1. What the fuck would that costume even look like? It’s hard to imagine any costume that wouldn’t violate some wanker’s “safe space”.

          1. Skinny jeans and a scarf when it’s warm and not needed

            1. Fat shaming!

              1. As protesters include all douchebag idiot zombies, these costumes come to mind and are approved:

                1. certainly skinny jeans, a V-neck white t-shirt, small leather vest, old bike, and a razor blade.
                2. those cut-off mom jeans with the waste line below the tits and whore butt-cheeks hanging out.
                3. nothing remotely associated with black people clothes for fear of being ostracized as ist.
                4. the Abbie Wambach Lice prevention cut with the toupee on top.
                5. a jersey and some shorts down to your ankles.

          2. What the fuck would that costume even look like?

            A life size gelatin molded into a goatse.

            1. You have one of those molds… too?

          3. Bubble with spikes attached and a loud speaker shouting you are violating my safe space anytime a white man gets within twenty feet.

          4. Wonder Woman

            1. But only for the, er, unconventionally attractive. For the more conventionally attractive, I imagine something out of the Harrison Bergeron TV movie.

          5. What the fuck would that costume even look like?

            For women? A full on burqa with the face mask and everything.

          6. What would that costume look like? Picture “Pajama Boy” with his head crammed up his backside……

          7. “What the fuck would that costume even look like?”

            A crying vagina.

          8. Skintone-appropriate footey PJs.

          9. My brother dressed as an SJW for Halloween last year. As I recall, he wore armor of some kind and carried a sword called “Privilege Checker.” The name was written on the sword. Twas a mighty blade indeed.

      2. …is worse than the holocaust.

        Thank you! I am so sick of the melodrama over that. People act like it was human beings being killed or something.

        1. You oughtta know.

        2. We meet again. ?_?

          *discreetly scans for nearby windows*

      3. Six million Jews, four million other victims of the Nazis, vast numbers of Armenians, Chinese, Russians, Chechens, Tutsis, and other holocaust victims want to slap these brats upside the head.

        -jcr

    2. a poor young asexual aromantic queer-identifying latinx individual

      That lucky shitlord. I heard a gender studies major that was a pantheistic, genderqueer half Asian/half black adoptee confined to a wheelchair that couldn’t even get close enough to the protest to be offended.

      1. I’d that supposed to read a-romantic or aroma-ntic?

        1. Who knows. I assumed “aromatic” because they smell like shit from all the patchouli and nag champa in their dorm room.

          1. Patchouli is for keeping unembalmed dead people from making their loved ones vomit at the funeral. It is not a magic bath replacement spray!

            1. It is not a magic bath replacement spray!

              Note to young guys: neither is Axe body spray. (See also Dermatitis neglecta)

        2. I love the smell of napalm in the morning.

        3. It’s a-romantic. Apparently it’s a thing.

          An aromantic is a person who experiences little or no romantic attraction to others. Where romantic people have an emotional need to be with another person in a romantic relationship, aromantics are often satisfied with friendships and other non-romantic relationships. What distinguishes romantic relationships from a non-romantic relationships can vary diversely, but often includes physical connection (holding hands, cuddling, etc.) The aromantic attribute is usually considered to be innate and not a personal choice, just as the lack of sexual attraction is innate to asexuals. It is important to note that aromantics do not lack emotional/personal connection, but simply have no instinctual need to develop connections of a romantic nature. Aromantics can have needs for just as much empathetic support as romantics, but these needs can be fulfilled in a platonic way.

          1. “Look at me! I’m special! Look at me!”

          2. Apparently it’s a thing.

            Calling those people ‘things’ is sooooo othering!

            I feel triggered.

      2. pantheistic, genderqueer half Asian/half black adoptee confined to a wheelchair

        a poor young asexual aromantic queer-identifying latinx individual

        See, this is all a good thing. What we now have here is a vector space of oppression. So if you need to decide whose claims have priority, it’s a simple RMS formula to determine the vector magnitude without regard to direction.

        1. It’s a space, and it has vectors, but some of the axioms of a vector space seem to be missing.

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    4. If only that were true. Sigh.

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  2. I just glad the illusion of Ivey league superiority is crashing down.
    /tries to open locked door to ITT tech

    1. You really ought to get them splinted soon then. Ice to stop the swelling…

  3. “former master of Yale’s Silliman College”

    Triggered.

  4. I literally can’t even.

    1. You will even. Or they’ll snap harder.

  5. “More Crazed Yale Students Attack Staffer for ‘Creating Space for Violence’

    Did they attack him or did they yell at him?

    Does Robby want a safe space for Christakis?

    I never know anymore.

    The obvious take for me is probably that these students are engaging in free speech that might be prohibited if the university gave into their demands to police speech on campus.

    . . . not that I see that take anywhere in this article.

    1. I believe there was no request for some more muscle.

      1. So they yelled at him.

        Are we supposed to be against these students’ speech because it hurt somebody’s feelings?

        Because we disagree with them?

        Can you tell from the article?

        Is this article pro-free speech or anti-free speech?

        Does anybody know?

        How can you tell?

        1. Do you need Robby to tell you how to feel about this?

          1. No.

            But I’m not about to condemn students for engaging in free speech because I’m against safe spaces either.

            1. pity the students refuse to afford that same sentiment to anyone who disagrees with them.

              1. Exactly.

                There’s the take.

                That’s the interesting thing about this episode.

                The students are engaging in speech that would be prohibited if their demands were met–because they’re hurting someone’s feelings, creating a space that may be intimidating, bullying, etc.

                If their demands were met, they wouldn’t be allowed to say the things they’re saying.

                1. for some reason, I don’t see self-awareness as a strong suit here.

                  1. And Robby isn’t about to tell them.

                    I’m still not sure he gets it himself.

                2. Clearly white males are exempted from such considereation, and are thus fair-game for and kind of abuse.

            2. Condemn them for being a punch of spineless, race baiting pussies, then.

              Or condemn them for snapping. WTF is that about?

        2. It doesn’t appear that they physically attacked him. But if they impeded his progress in a common area then they did detain him, which would be over the line in my opinion. But short of that, they’re free to “attack” him verbally all day long.

          1. I should say so.

            And he should be perfectly free to tell them to take their hurt feelings and shove them up their asses–for as long as they’re willing to stand there and listen.

            1. He should…as long as his voluntarily-entered-into employment agreement permits it.

              1. does his employment agreement require listening to stupid shit from overgrown children? Perhaps is the Yale front office had some spine, this wouldn’t be going on. A president saying “grow the fuck up, kiddies” would go a long way. Or, Yale can experience the Mizzou effect of inaction in the face of nonsense.

                1. I have no idea. I’m just saying that maybe he is forced to stand there and take their abuse because his contract forbids him from getting into debates outside the scope of his teaching.

                  Really it was just a joke. But now that it’s been said, maybe that has something to do with his reaction. After all, he’s probably on a bit of a short leash after last year.

                  1. He intentionally engaged if I remember …. his dumb ass,.

        3. So they yelled at him.

          Verbal attacks are a thing, you know.

          And sure, it was free speech. It shouldn’t be outlawed. But it is certainly eligible for condemnation, ridicule, and even non-legal sanctions by non-government organizations.

          Yale would be within its rights to expel those students. As an exercise of its right of free association.

          1. Wouldn’t Yale have to give some tuition back? They have union wages to pay, doncha know.

            They’re revenue-starved. Like any Democrat-controlled entity. The only reason they can keep rolling over debt is because eventually they’re going to have to dip into the endowment somehow (despite the endowment’s restrictions). Even Uncle Stupid will eventually turn off the faucet.

          2. Yale, and other private schools, would also be within their rights to expel people for having conservative opinions, and to deny conservative speakers space at the school. But people (rightly) don’t care much for that defense when it happens.

          3. Point to the part of this article that’s clearly in favor of free speech, RC.

        4. Calm down Ken, you’re channeling the judge and that’s never a good sign!

          1. Is he channeling the judge? Can you be certain that this isn’t a good sign?

    2. at?tack
      ??tak/Submit
      verb
      verb: attack; 3rd person present: attacks; past tense: attacked; past participle: attacked; gerund or present participle: attacking
      1.
      take aggressive action against (a place or enemy forces) with weapons or armed force, typically in a battle or war.
      “in December, the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor”
      synonyms: strike, charge, pounce; More
      antonyms: defend
      (of a person or animal) act against (someone or something) aggressively in an attempt to injure or kill.
      “a doctor was attacked by two youths”
      synonyms: assault, assail, set upon, beat up; More
      (of a disease, chemical substance, or insect) act harmfully on.
      “HIV is thought to attack certain cells in the brain”
      criticize or oppose fiercely and publicly.
      “he attacked the government’s defense policy”
      synonyms: criticize, censure, condemn, pillory, savage, revile, vilify; More
      antonyms: praise

      1. So “attack” has wider connotations than just yelling at someone? Yeah, I knew that.

        . . . and they were just yelling at him.

        I’m gonna attack a gourmet cheeseburger in a few minutes here, but that isn’t confusing because I’ve repeatedly demonstrated that I understand the difference between yelling at somebody and doing something wrong.

        Not everyone in this thread has.

        P.S. No, yelling at people because you think they suck isn’t necessarily wrong.

        1. Just be happy they weren’t calling him a cunt and call it ok, deal?

          1. Well, that wouldn’t be attacking them though, it would just be criticizing or opposing them fiercely and publicly.

            Or something.

        2. So “attack” has wider connotations than just yelling at someone? Yeah, I knew that.

          . . . and they were just yelling at him.

          I loled.

        3. when you’re standing in the middle of a group and they’re all yelling at you you might think differently, Ken.

          1. you might think you’re being….oh, I dunno….attacked.

            1. I’ve been both yelled at and attacked.

              No need to conflate the two in the headline of an article that’s supposed to be about free speech.

              Libertarians are supposed to be good at seeing the difference between free speech and violating other people’s rights.

              If you find someone who isn’t very good at telling the difference between free speech and violating other people’s rights, he or she is probably not a libertarian.

              Right?

      2. Dictionaries are tools of oppression, colonization, racism, imperialism, languagism, definitionism, and…well shit, let me find my words that mean the same thing book.

        1. God dammit, why do words have to mean things.

          1. I blame that sonofabitch Webster.

  6. We are not far off from Struggle Sessions.

    1. “I had many feelings at that struggle session,” recalls You Xiaoli. “I thought there were some bad people in the audience. But I also thought there were many ignorant people, people who did not understand what was happening, so I pitied that kind of person. They brought workers and peasants into the meetings, and they could not understand what was happening. But I was also angry.”

  7. Defenders of safe spaces have tended to point out that there’s absolutely nothing wrong with people forming voluntary associative groups based around common beliefs or identity membership.

    The Kampus Klan Klub will be happy to have their approval.

    1. there’s nothing wrong with groups whose common beliefs are approved by The Party. Those icky proles, however, are another matter.

      1. How a bout a nice dinner with the Friends of the NRA?

    2. Wouldn’t a private golf course that doesn’t allow certain ethnic groups or women qualify as a safe space?

      1. So what I’m getting from all of this is that segregation was actually a good thing, only it shouldn’t have been mandatory. Jesus H. Christ what Parallel Universe have I accidentally wandered into?

  8. Just another day in the Eloi incubator.

    1. When are Morlocks going to be introduced into the enviroment to control the Eloi populstion?

      1. We’re already around. Waiting. Watching.

      2. We’re already around. Waiting. Watching.

        1. Waiting and watching the squirrels, apparently.

    2. The Morlocks are still underground operating and trying to maintain the ancient machinery that makes Eloi life possible and pleasant.

      For now, anyway.

  9. “Vox’s Emily Crockett gives “…black churches” as examples of safe spaces and describes them as places where members of a certain identity group…people of color?can feel at ease and safe from discomfort.”

    A fun same space in some black churches (not confined to black churches, of course) is the mourner’s bench:

    “Those who were not ‘saved’ sometimes sat on the bench in the front row, where they were certain to feel the ‘fire’ of the preacher’s sermon. It was hoped that while contemplating their fate in the next world they might have a spiritual visitation or awakening, or at least a confession of sin and disavowal of sinful behavior.”

    That sounds nice and relaxing, I bet the mourner’s bench is better than a spa in de-stressing after a hectic week!

  10. I demand that Reason ban safe spaces for trolls now!

    Jill Stein approves this message.

    1. AddictionMyth|9.14.16 @ 2:47PM|#

      “I demand that Reason ban safe spaces for trolls now!”

      Jill Stein approves this message.

      So you’re asking Reason to permanently ban you from posting in the comments?

  11. This does not sound like a very safe space for those who need to express a non-conformist opinion about something.

    1. Non-conformist opinions are violence. Duh.

  12. This reminds me all the time of the cultural revolution.

    The students always seem to turn on their teachers.

    It’s often the first thing they do after they’re wound up.

    1. Its a good point. Probably because teachers are tge nearest point if authority. Its like a mix between lord of the flies and animal farm. Young ones are told they are empowered (nothing wrong with that) then they turn on any one they think that challenges their power.

      I too was confused by the headline, i expected to see the prof actually, you know, attacked.

  13. I’m triggered just knowing pathetic whiners like this exist.

    1. If I were under 30, I would hate these people more than I already do. It would be infuriating to in any way be associated with these spoiled, hateful losers.

      1. My son’t contempt for SJW’s is pretty stunning.

        He also religiously follows sugarfree’s blog. I believe it played the role of a gom jabbar that turned him human.

        1. Well if survived reading that, he at least has a strong constitution.

        2. That young man is going to be a monster!

          *readies pitchforks*

        3. I made it to test the righteous.

      2. I just remind my son that these freaks are his competition. He always gets an evil smile on his face when I share this stuff with him.

  14. You know who else had a safe space to which he retreated for protection?

    1. Dick Cheney?

    2. Superman?

    3. Jodie Foster?

    4. Hans Gruber?

    5. Darth Vader?

      – oh wait! I know!

      Amanduh Marcotte!

    6. My dog during a thunderstorm?

        1. I wish I attended this exhibit so I could have gone painting to painting saying “vagina.”

  15. At this point who in their right mind would hire anyone from Yale? Maybe if you knew they were outside of all this. But there are tons of college graduates from places that are not like this. So why take a chance?

    1. Every government agency and plenty of law firms.

      1. And other Yalies.

      2. The government agencies don’t hire many straight out of college. And the big law firms days are numbered. Their entire business model is obsolete.

        1. And the big law firms days are numbered. Their entire business model is obsolete.

          Yup. Companies are getting more and more fed up with the hourly billing model, and are going to a “fixed fee or bust” model. Then, when they want to pay even less, they hire a bunch more attorneys at 75% the salary in-house and only hire out for large upticks in work.

          1. I heard a presentation yesterday about the new e discovery tools out there. They are really full on AI at this point. Forget outsourcing document review to India. Even that is obsolete. Computers can do it now and to a demonstrated higher degree of accuracy than even the best lawyer. I heard that presentation and thought big law is done.

            1. Big law will sue it out of existence.

                1. Law firms will begin specializing in Grievance. Companies will have to hire lawyers to compete with the law firms. Governments and unions will do the same. It will all be pushed by human resources personnel, many of whom you can see in those videos, snapping away at some Old White Man.

          2. Then, when they want to pay even less, they hire a bunch more attorneys at 75% the salary in-house and only hire out for large upticks in work.

            When you compare the hourly billing rate of a law firm, and the global hourly cost of an inhouse attorney, the ratio is more like 3, 4 or 5:1.

            My employer would have to pay a law firm around 3 – 4x what they pay me for my services. For more juniorish attorneys, the ratio can be higher. On account of I underpay my juniorish attorneys. Bwahaha.

    2. But there are tons of college graduates from places that are not like this.

      This contingent of SJWs has invaded all of the top tier schools. Some have caught the SJW bug more than others, but the only schools completely immune to this are the ones that don’t offer grievance studies programs.

  16. “You have created space for violence,” said one student. When Christakis said he disagreed with that statement, she replied, “You can’t.”

    She shoulda smacked him in response. That would’ve proven her point.

    1. You can’t. What does that even mean? I just did disagree you fucking half wit.

      As infuriating as this is, I actually feel sorry for these kids. Going through life with the maturity level of a below average four year old must be miserable. I look at these kids and think what sad angry and stupid people they are. I can’t see how someone who thinks like they do could ever find any kind of contentment or happiness

      1. I think she meant either (a) as a white male, you aren’t allowed to disagree with me or (b) I don’t care if you disagree with me, I’m not changing my opinion feelings.

  17. The additional videos of the Christakis confrontation validate the letter’s concerns about the overall climate for free expression on campuses?and the threat posed by hyper-offended students. The students demand that Christakis apologize to them. He explicitly did so, saying that he was sorry for “hurting their feelings.” When they objected to that terminology and asked that he apologize for causing them pain, he complied. But then they pressed him to apologize for “creating space for violence to happen,” Christakis had had enough. “That I disagree with,” he said.

    Nuke it from orbit. Seriously, the fact that these people are somehow still enrolled in a school on campus and they haven’t yet failed out of college shows what a joke higher education has become.

    1. No kidding. What do these kids do beyond perform like trained animals for their lefty profs?

      1. Hopefully not fuck. We sure don’t need more of them.

    2. Can the school get rid of a student if that student is one of their racial quota?

    3. The lesson here is to never negotiate with terrorists.

    4. I didn’t think it was possible to flunk out of Yale (as long as the check cleared, of course).

  18. Is this all the result of SJW bullshit being taught in high school?

      1. That’s like a training manual to turn kids racist. WTF?

      2. Potential topics of study include: Native American genocide, Slavery, the Holocaust, anti-immigration policies and sentiment, media (mis) representations, issues that face their own communities such as gentrification, police brutality, etc.

        Slavery, genocide, holocaust… gentrification.

        You just never know when The Man is going to subjugate you, kill you, or buy your house and fix it up nicely.

        1. I wonder if the issue of Hispanic gangs ethnically cleansing black neighborhoods ever comes up.

    1. All these enlightened educators that have created this situation need to be shot and set on fire. And it will probably come to them at the hands of their pupils.

      1. I’m not sure the next Cultural Revolution will be much of an improvement over the last one.

  19. Defenders of safe spaces have tended to point out that there’s absolutely nothing wrong with people forming voluntary associative groups based around common beliefs or identity membership.

    So, I’m sure that they’d be just dandy with the whites-only country club. And I guess they owe Augusta National an apology over their ruckus about men-only.

    1. “I think he’s not getting the point of who these spaces are supposed to be safe *for.*”

    2. Freedom of association, like other constitutional rights, is reserved for ‘protected’ classes.

    3. I’m sure the KKK is just over the moon to hear that.

    4. Maybe the secret for Christian bakeries is to make it a membership service.

  20. I thought this shit was on the wane! I guess it resurfaced at Yale. Pesky bugger, that PC2.0.

    1. The incident is a few months old

  21. Creating Space for Violence’

    More rhetorical horseshit. Its just a new formulation of their previous, “Contributing to a Culture of ________“… which attempts to pretend that “saying stuff” is the same as “doing stuff”. (*ITS ENABLING!!!)

    Which is just one of their many anti-logical* rhetorical methods.

    The point of these exercises, where they accuse someone of all sorts of transgressions, is really nothing to do with the “substance” of their claim (e.g. about reducing ‘violence’) – they’re about repeatedly hammering home these *types* of arguments, and attempting to make the bullshit-rhetoric-M.O. normalized. Make it valid via mere-repetition. When people believe its valid? then its valid.

    (*yes, i actually mean that the purpose of their argument is to destroy “reason itself”)

    Its not about ‘violence’; its about using social-pressure to embed these rhetorical tactics in the public-mind. Just repeat the claim so often that other people internalize the idea

    It helps them deconstruct the framework (a “implicit requirement for logic”) that prevents them from wielding power.

    I think its fair to say the people doing this stuff are often too stupid to understand exactly what they’re doing. But that’s sort of the brilliance of the Frankfurt school stuff; it doesn’t require that the footsoldiers “think”. Just feel their way to victory.

    1. i actually mean that the purpose of their argument is to destroy “reason itself”

      This has been brewing for over a century. It’s all just consequences of the unthinking Postmodern revulsion against any Enlightenment thought, primarily because the Enlightenment was icky and based on Christianity, but also because the Enlightenment is too constraining, doesn’t take the feels into account.

      1. of course, if i had read your comment to the bottom before responding, I’d have seen that you had already talked about it.

      2. destroy “reason itself”

        Orwell had a thing or two to say about that.

    2. The students demand that Christakis apologize to them. He explicitly did so, saying that he was sorry for “hurting their feelings.” When they objected to that terminology and asked that he apologize for causing them pain, he complied. But then they pressed him to apologize for “creating space for violence to happen,” Christakis had had enough. “That I disagree with,” he said. “It doesn’t matter whether you disagree,” one student replied

      See how it works? Pretend that there are rules. Press them for concessions, pretending that the rules that they’re familiar with are in play.

      The more concessions you get, the more you insist they are still insufficient.

      When you reach the point where the ‘conceding-party’ begins to realize that the whole process is just a bait-&-switch, and then retracts and refuses to play, then that’s when you drop the new “fact” on them =

      “We may have been demanding concessions from you in the beginning? but they were never actually necessary: during the process, we stripped you of your own agency.”

      It was never about “finding agreement” between 2 legitimate points of view. It was about power.

      its about compelling one side to dance when they shoot their little rhetorical-guns at their feet. Once they start dancing, they own you. Now it doesn’t matter what you say: you’ll dance when you’re told to dance. The only opinion you’re allowed to have is the one they tell you to have.

      1. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
        THIS

        so much this.

        This is all it’s ever been about. All of it. The entirety of the Left. That’s why every nation that is taken over by them dies–because power is the be all and end all. They have no idea what to do once they’ve got it. No real economic plan. No real social plan–that’s why everything eventually ends up in the black market with the government incessantly dividing the people into ever small groups of antagonists.

        Because it’s all about making you do what they say. Regardless of the stupidity of their utterances.

    3. I remember reading the comments on an article in Wired about cyberbullying, which was a depressing experience. The argument made by the resident totalitarians was that “verbal abuse” has the same psychological effects on a person as physical abuse (e.g. giving the ‘victim’ ptsd).

      As such, they contend, verbal abuse should be treated morally and legally the same as physical abuse; ‘cyber bullied’ and other verbal abusers should subject to criminal charges. And the class of verbal abusers probably includes anti-feminists, republicans, and critics of the BLM movement by definition in the minds of those tasked with determining what is abuse.

      What’s most ironic is these same people pretend they support criminal justice reform and purport to criticize the US for having too many people in prison, but if they had their way half the country would be either in jail or on probation indefinitely.

      1. Everything they do is about getting INSTITUTIONS to bow to their demands.

        They know that they have little/no effect on a diverse general-public. So they try and create levers to pull within/surrounding institutions. Once they get the institutions on their side, its all about changing ‘the rules’ so that the game is rigged to give them total control over what people are permitted to think/do/say.

    4. +1 Josef Goebbels. Make the lie big enough and repeat it often enough…

  22. So much for the myth that you’ve got to be intelligent to get into an Ivy League school.

  23. I tried to watch a video and lost it when they snap their fingers. How is that a thing? Are the Sharks and Jets to blame? I think the Tough Brets were more badass.

    1. Clapping is violent and triggering and imitates gunfire.

      1. Is that why? You really can’t make this shit up anymore.

        1. Yup. It started with some conference in England giving a trigger warning and asking everyone not to clap.

          1. the finger-snapping thing predated that. its always been big within the radical-“PoC” community (think ‘slam poetry’) to show their refusal to comply with the behavioral mandates of the patriarchical cis-hetero-caucasoid institutional infrastructure, etc.

            “Headwrap*”-homies were doing it in the 1990s.
            (*derogatory term for afrocentric-intellectual black fashionistas of the era)

            The incident i think you’re referring to was the famous “jazz hands” demand.

      2. Finger bang!

      3. I literally cannot snap my fingers. When I try I just make the sound my skin rubbing together.

        This makes me feel excluded and marginalized. I demand reparations or I’m calling the OCR.

        Oh and I also can’t whistle, so that can’t be the next thing.

        1. It’s finger twinkles, nowadays..

        2. I literally cannot snap my fingers.

          Me neither.

          Oh and I also can’t whistle

          OK that’s just weird.

          1. “OK that’s just weird.”
            Stop being so sfyr?zonormative.

            *sfyrizo is the Greek word for whistle. Ya know, like ‘hetero’ and ‘homo.’ I thought it was clever.

        1. JAZZ WAS ORIGINATED BY AFRICAN-AMERICANS AND WHITE PEOPLE CANNOT USE JAZZ HANDS BECAUSE CULTURAL APPROPRIATION

          1. /Al Jolson quietly and dejectedly walks away with a meek ‘Mammy’.

    2. Clapping is considered triggering for some reason. Is the finger snapping not one of the most creepy and retarded things you have ever seen?

      1. They’re creepy and they’re kooky,
        Mysterious and spooky,
        They’re all together ooky,
        The Addams Family.
        snap snap

      2. Not when Curly Howard does it!

    3. stay cool, Crusty

    4. Blame the beatniks.

    5. I’d make a beatnik joke, but I don’t know anything about beatniks other than the snapping.

      1. Go watch “So I Married An Axe Murderer” starring a young Mike Meyers, you will see things that cannot be unseen.

      2. beatniks were the original hipsters from the late 40’s to early 60’s or just watch the many loves of Dobbie Gillis with Bob Denver “gilligan” as a beatnik.

        1. I think I saw that once and holy crap did I want to punch him in the face.

    6. I joined a volunteer organization, and one or two of the more socially aware wanted a moderator and a “stack” style discussion where you basically raise your hand and get put on the bottom of the “stack” and everyone who raises their hand gets a turn. It was fun to watch a bunch of old curmudgeons (it was a STEM organization, so think 60 year old engineers) just ignore it and talk when they wanted to. This is the same shit.

      1. Wait, literally a stack? Like LIFO?

        How is that even manageable?

        On the other hand, we had an old, curmudgeonly engineer where I worked who effectively worked on an interrupt/stack like system. He’d horn in on any old conversation and jump immediately to the “currently executing discussion” until HE was done. Of course we managed to get around this because of the “interrupt” side: you could introduce new topics at your whim and he’d immediately change context until that discussion wrapped up then took up the next discussion down as if he had never stopped.

        It was sort of funny derailing him as he derailed everyone else.

    7. Same here, seems like that should be something in a Mel Brooks movie. I couldn’t take anything seriously after that.

  24. Nuke. It. From. Orbit.

  25. I’m having a hard time finding any fucks to give for any academic institution (or agent thereof) that spent the last 40 years hollowing out the concepts of agency and accountability, to satisfy the demands of the cackling loudmouths and their political masters.

    Chickens. Roosting.

    Have a nice day.

    1. Yup. This is a leftoid version of what Trump is doing to the Repubs. Both the Repubs and the unis have so thoroughly destroyed their own foundations that their pending destruction can be laid squarely at their own feet, and I feel completely entitled to laugh in their faces.

      1. Act I: Yale advocates for more welfare.
        Act II: Yale then gets more welfare (drama) queens.
        Act III: Yale learns to stop worrying and, with Clinton/Bush as proof, begins to self-identify as “Economically Inept School”

  26. Defenders of safe spaces have tended to point out that there’s absolutely nothing wrong with people forming voluntary associative groups based around common beliefs or identity membership.

    Just as long as they don’t involve bakeries

    1. tee hee. “Voluntary associative groups”. I’m keeping that.

      1. You can’t “keep” the vag Paul,…misogynist shitlord.

  27. “You have created space for violence,” said one student.

    Really?! Like a Thunderdome?! Why do Yale students get to have all the fun?

    “Two Snowflakes Enter! One Snowflake Leaves!”

    1. This is the mini-film that played in my mind.

      Grab the nearest culture affirming fuckstick by his fingers, threaten to snap them for him/her, and ask if anyone would like to see a demonstration on creating a space for violence to ‘happen’.

  28. This really is one of the dumbest of the recent campus protests.

    “How dare you say the university can’t tell us what to do!”

    It’s like they are demanded to be cured of their drapetomania.

    1. They’ve succumbed to Trump’s tricknology.

      1. Yakub peed in their gene pool.

    2. They’re actually demanding the University be more authoritarian and treat them like children. Which is funny when you see the number of black protesters in the photo.

      Do these people not know the results of the black leaders’ demands for more police in black neighborhoods twenty years ago? The increased authority not only made the police more violent, more importantly it 1) did not drive gang crime out of the neighborhoods at all, and 2) it just made the gangs more violent.

      It’s rather amusing to see two groups of sycophants suddenly turn on each other. Both seem proud to claim they have battered wife syndrome despite the fact that neither was actually battered.

      Yale riot, I wanna riot,
      Yale riot, a riot of my own.

  29. The universities wanted that government money (in the form of student loan guarantees) and they deserve exactly what they got.

    The best thing Yale could do now is quadruple tuition rates.

    1. The best thing Yale could do right now is close its doors for the good of civilization.

      1. …after having the last one there leave a localized nuclear device to go off in 3…2…1…

        1. That would be the humane thing to do. Turning these idiots out onto the world is about like kicking a puppy out in the middle of the desert. It would be cruel to expect them to survive on their own outside of the university.

          1. Except the puppy gets to vote and would be eternally grateful to whomever rescued it.

    2. I’m having a trouble remembering where George W. Bush received his education…

      Oh wait! It was Yale!

      Of course, I’m also not one of those people who believe George was stupid. I think he just has his ‘rural’ shtick down pat. Kind of like how Hillary suddenly sounds Southern when she’s in the South then goes to New York and sounds…not Southern at all. Of course, both of them are probably evil (or just statist fucks) but stupid? I’m not sure about that.

      It’s always amused me that New York elected someone from Arkansas to their Senate though. Clinton’s truly sit atop space and time.

      1. It’s always amused me that New York elected someone from Arkansas to their Senate though.

        Gaskets and robot oil work the same regardless of the state of origin.

    3. There really is no justification, even by progressive standards, for any government subsidization of the ivy leagues.

      I wouldn’t be too upset about making college free, on the condition that only low tuition schools, public or private, be made free (via vouchers), while all subsidies to more prestigious schools are abolished entirely. Follow the same model as other public services: you give the poor people bus passes, not the keys to a Maserati. Especially since the evidence suggests a state school education is just as good as an Ivy League one, it’s just a difference in prestige. It might actually save money in net to make the cheap schools free while cutting off the expensive ones.

  30. “creating space for violence to happen.”

    As someone who is very good at dog whistling to his followers, I am appalled that none of you have been able to read between the lines here and see the threat. Apparently, I’m posting on the wrong site and need to go elsewhere to recruit foot soldiers for the coming Fourth Reich.

    1. You want brownshirts, you got to Yale.

    2. Sadly, you seem to be unaware that we are all Rhoemites, and therefore have already been disavowed by you.

      Also, John is a joke stealer.

      1. John really is an asshole.

        1. Damn straight I am. And especially so if you are stupid

      2. Well, I do like gay butt sex, is that what makes me a Rhoemite?

        Also, on that topic, I highly recommend a book called ‘The Pink Swatika”, for its entertainment value.

    3. I like your handle links to a picture of “yourself”. As though the name left some ambiguity. “Which Hitler could it be? Gustav Hitler? Werner Hitler?”

    4. The 4th Reich already exists, and the UK just voted to leave it.

      -jcr

      1. Yeah well I’m not that all impressed with Britain itself.

  31. “He’s been a redneck Northern LIberal ethnic pro-life Jewish fixed income no-nukes gun nut.”

    BILL THE CAT, A CANDIDATE WE CAN FINALLY CALL OUR OWN.

    1. A woman named Freida.

      1. Bill the cat was the first Trans presidential candidate…if you don’t count Lyndon Johnson.

  32. I know a lot of you have expressed his you would never hire people like this. Neither would I-for an office job. But man, I’d love to get a few of these pansies of on a job site, maybe as a laborer or plumber’s helper.

    1. I want them out in the fields picking vegetables.

    2. I feel sorry for their parents. Can you imagine if you knew you had raised one of these little bastards? Look kid why couldn’t you have got into drug dealing or raping children something, anything but being a campus SJW

      1. Your definition of ‘parents’ and ‘raise’ is askew with current cultural norms. I’m pretty sure that these kids raised themselves and, for one reason or another, their biological progenitors felt unable or incapable of disabusing them of that notion.

      2. It’s their fault, John. It’s perfectly possible to prepare your kids to be sjw-resistant.

  33. I have explained to my children that Yale is an unacceptable “University” to attend.

    The Ivy league universities are joke educational institutions. They are so politically inbred with only leftist thought that no real thinking happens at them anymore….

    1. I could’ve sworn Princeton came out and said “Fuck this noise.” But maybe I’m just remembering that incorrectly.

    2. Cornell mostly avoids it.

    3. U of Chicago is the last true Ivy League school imo. Just wish they didn’t wait list me.

      (Yes I know u of c isn’t really in the Ivy League, that’s kind of the joke)

  34. My favorite is the Asian girl in the middle who doesn’t seem to know what’s happening but is happy someone invited her to go do something.

    “It’s just nice to get out of the dorm, you know?”

    1. They needed some token diversity. It’s not like the hey will ever talk to her again or anything.

    2. I noticed the Asian girl but I’m a racist so I just asssumed that happy little smile on her face was from her listening to these “best and brightest” American college students and thinking “Oh, we Chinee gone own you silly American so fucking hard.”

  35. I can’t believe the arrogant, superior, condescending, “we’re the adults” tone that these kids are taking with a professor who is more than twice their age. Then they switch to a whiny, emotional, hysterical tone. I work at a college in a technical capacity, and I’ve had a few interactions with SJW’s and told them point-blank that they were full of shit.

    A university should not be a democracy. Students who behave like this should be summarily expelled.

  36. “hair salons, gay bars, and black churches” as examples of safe spaces and describes them as places where members of a certain identity group?gay people, people of color?can feel at ease and safe from discomfort.

    And when the KKK show up at a black church demanding their own corner where they can feel safe from black people? College is where you go to hear new, possibly uncomfortable ideas and learn to use logic and reason to analyze them, discuss them, develop arguments for or against them. Running away and hiding sobbing under the bed is not a suitable reaction to hearing things you don’t like hearing – and that’s exactly the sort of thing the school is supposed to be teaching you. If somebody says something you don’t agree with, you don’t hit them or call them a stinky boogerhead or shout at them until they shut up or call the cops to have them arrested – you debate and argue and discuss what they said. If you can’t make a simple argument to attack their position or defend your own, you really need to question your basis for believing them to be wrong and you to be right. And no, “well, that’s just, like, your opinion, man” is not a valid refutation of an argument.

    If you can’t stand hearing that you’re not supposed to run away and hide sobbing under the bed so much so that it makes you run away and hide sobbing under the bed, maybe you need to just keep your sobbing ass hiding under the bed and don’t come back to school.

  37. You know, these people clearly exist. Yet I’ve never seen one out in the wild. It’s a strange paradox.

    1. Its not a “paradox” at all.

      They don’t exist in the wild because their ideas are incompatible with reality. When removed from a sheltered, institutional environment, they go into hibernation-mode, and instead resort to less-aggressive appeals and stuff like, “Common Sense” regulations, etc. to try and create similar institutional shelter elsewhere.

  38. They believe that the entire campus is made unsafe?is made susceptible to violence?when people express views that clash with their far-left vision of social justice.

    In a way they’re right: it makes the campus a place susceptible to violence perpetrated by them. I’ve long believed that the reason these mental defectives equate hearing views/ opinions they disagree with with violence is so that they can respond violently with a clear conscience. E.g., if they think they’ve been the victim of “violence” because someone something mean, then when they respond by assaulting the big meanie it’s OK because “They started it.”

    If these fuckwits thought they could get away with it they wouldn’t hesitate to load everyone they dislike onto cattle cars, all in the name of making the whole country a “safe space.”

    1. It’s also why this same demographic is so supportive of gun control. It’s a lot harder to load Billy Bob, Jethro, Dakota, and Becky onto the cars if they have the capability to blow your face off in self-defense.

  39. My safe space is anywhere off campus.

    1. That’s only because you’re a white male and the world is constantly embracing you and whispering kind words in your ear.

      1. I do appreciate the free money we get.

        1. Personally, the free weekly fruit baskets are my favorite perk.

  40. Damn straight I am. And especially so if you are stupid

    I especially liked that shiv at Nick a few days ago.. The “if he studied history or economics, he wouldn’t be writing for Reason.”

  41. At this point who in their right mind would hire anyone from Yale?

    The Supreme Court.

    1. Hey, some of them are from Harvard!

      That’s diversity, don’tcha know.

  42. Computers can do it now and to a demonstrated higher degree of accuracy than even the best lawyer. I heard that presentation and thought big law is done.

    For you dumb fucks that blew an extra 18 months and tens of thousands of dollars on an LLM in Tax….

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX7wtNOkuHo

    1. Hopefully you will be able to pay off your student loans before moore’s law devours your ass. Nah, not hopefully.
      If there is ever a zombie apocalypse or shit hits the fan event, you have to be embarrassed that you’d be one of the most useless human beings on the planet

  43. Still d’king bimbos

    http://hotair.com/archives/201…..ng-bimbos/

    1. :The Bill Clinton Story

  44. It’s Yale. Screw them. If the chancellor doesn’t have the balls to kick out students for accosting and insulting their professors, maybe the good staff will wise up and realize they should take jobs at universities that actually care about education rather than coddling brats who don’t understand acceptable boundaries of discourse.

  45. It’s Yale. Screw them. If the chancellor doesn’t have the balls to kick out students for accosting and insulting their professors, maybe the good staff will wise up and realize they should take jobs at universities that actually care about education rather than coddling brats who don’t understand acceptable boundaries of discourse.

    1. Squirrelz.

  46. This is genuinely disturbing to watch, they are emotionally disturbed individuals.

  47. “hair salons, gay bars, and black churches” as examples of safe spaces and describes them as places where members of a certain identity group?gay people, people of color?can feel at ease and safe from discomfort.

    Presumably, a cis-hetero white male would be made to feel welcome in each of those examples, and could sue if they weren’t.

    Right?

    RIGHT?

  48. My safe space is under Warty’s cock. It is like bunker under here. Roomy. Nice temperature. A bit humid, but’chya can’t have everything.

  49. Yale’s next administration had better start expelling snotty little shits like this before there’s nothing left of Yale’s reputation.

    -jcr

    1. Or they can, you know, not admit the obvious cases or emotional retardation?

  50. I hope to live to see video of some speaker telling similar students, “Shut the fuck up and get the fuck out of my way, or I will SHOW YOU what “making a space for violence” looks like.”

  51. Someone has to work in HR, and the more the Ivies spawn the cheaper they get.

  52. Why is it wrong to reveal the shrieking student’s name? (I assume Daily Caller apologized for including a link to her parents’ address, but if not, shame on them).

    I’m opposed to people harassing her, so maybe it is, but do you really have a right to yell at somebody in a public square and remain anonymous?

  53. I watched a video of Camille Paglia last night where she mentioned that these children’s view of the world is entirely bourgeois: they want the world to be like, in her words, “their living room”. I instantly thought of the girl, her voice quaking and whining, demanding that the school be like “a home”.

    Kitten, if you want a home, go home.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udWNkPhffUQ

    1. How many Brazilian feminists does it take to change a light bulb?

      (I think I’ve merged a couple unrelated jokes)

  54. But if we don’t accommodate them, they’ll…….

  55. WE WANT AN APOLOGY!
    I’m sorry.
    ARE YOU APOLOGIZING, OR SORRY FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO?
    I’m apologizing because you asked for one.
    THEN YOU’RE NOT BEING SINCERE, SO WE REJECT IT!
    I’m sorry.
    FOR WHAT?
    For appearing to be insincere.
    YOU NOT APPEARING TO BE; YOU ARE!
    I don’t think I am.
    YOU DON’T GET TO MAKE THAT DECISION!
    I’m trying to understand you, um, what’s your name?
    I’VE TAKEN YOUR CLASS! I’VE BEEN IN YOUR OFFICE!
    I’m sorry, I’ve got over 500 students and I’m bad with names.
    STOP APOLOGIZING!
    Well, what do you want from me?
    WE WANT AN APOLOGY!

    1. Better yet;

      WE WANT AN APOLOGY!

      Fuck you. In fact, fuck you and the high-horse you rode in on.

      WHAT!?!?!

      Fuck you, you witless, sniveling twunts. You can’t be appeased, so why should I bother to try?

      1. I APOLOGIZE FOR PAYING TAXES!
        I APOLOGIZE FOR WORKING AND NOT SUCKING THE GOV’T TEAT!
        I APOLOGIZE FOR SAVING AND INVESTING AND ALLOCATING CAPITAL TOWARDS THE BEST RETURN; IN TURN CREATING JOBS AND WEALTH THE MULTIPLIER!
        I APOLOGIZE FOR UNDERSTANDING FREE MARKETS AND LIBERTY AND THE DESTRUCTIVE FORCES OF ALL OTHER SYSTEMS!
        I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BEING BRAINWASHED!

        For that you should lose your job.

  56. why is that the most closed minded people on the planet, claim to be “liberal” ?

    Gee I wonder how they would react if someone wore a KKK “costume”…. Spoiled rich kids at Yale.

  57. The obvious take for me is probably that these students are engaging in free speech that might be prohibited if the university gave into their demands to police speech on campus.

    That presumes that either i) they are demand POV-neutral rules that protect people’s emotions, and not simply using such a rationale as a pretext for censoring certain specific views they disagree with, or ii) that the balance of power is likely to swing in such a way that such rules might be repurposed to silence their speech.

    I think their lack of concern for their own rights is rational.

  58. These people are mentally weak and poorly educated. How they ever made it to college in the first place, much less Yale, is a mystery. What they will experience when finally confronted with the real life and the workplace will be entertaining.

  59. It is fortunate that Yale is beyond mocking, and can seemingly fall no lower in respect among the country-at-large, or these snowflakes would be booted from the ivy-covered halls for bringing the institution into disrespect – for that is the action they so deserve.

  60. How does this incident differ in any way from the O’Keefe incident the other day that Robby informed us was absolutely not an indication of campus censorship and was, in fact, a perfectly rational and reasonable response to genuinely horrifying policies?

    O’Keefe gets yelled at for being a Trump supporter. It’s not censorship or oppression because they didn’t beat him up (even though he did get shut down by the cops). Christakis gets yelled at for his wife sending an email. It IS censorship and oppression, and might very well be the harbinger of the apocalypse, even though they didn’t beat him up (and he wasn’t shut down by the cops).

    It’s almost as if two different sets of standards are being employed. But Robby’s definitely not a disingenuous piece of shit devoid of principles who bases his ethical premises on identity politics, so that can’t be it. I guess we are left to wonder.

    1. Good point.

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  62. “Others snapped their fingers to express agreement”

    Yeah, these are not people to take seriously

  63. Budding authoritarians and future totalitarians, looking for socialist strong men to lead the way for a central committee that will respect their safe space and crack down on those who would deny them their hurt feelings in a safe environment.

  64. I really don’t get this at all. He offended them and “created space for violence” because he didn’t disagree with his wife’s email?

    WTF? Seriously?

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