Paul Wolfowitz Says He 'Might Have to Vote for Hillary Clinton'

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Paul Wolfowitz was one of the most infamous hawks of the Bush II era, a deputy secretary of defense who pushed hard both for the Iraq War and, in general, for "democracy promotion" by military means. Now he may be joining the #HawksWithHer brigades.

Interviewed by Der Spiegel, Wolfowitz expresses alarm at Trump's alleged isolationism and confesses that he may vote for the Democrat:

Department of Defense

SPIEGEL: How would the world change if Trump became president?

Wolfowitz: We are already seeing a degree of instability in the world because Obama seems to have consciously wanted to step back. Trump is going to be "Obama squared," a more extreme version of the same thing….

SPIEGEL: Who are you going to vote for in November?

Wolfowitz: I wish there were somebody I could be comfortable voting for. I might have to vote for Hillary Clinton, even though I have big reservations about her.

To read the rest, go here. For more neoconservatives for Clinton, go here. For a reminder that Obama has not in fact "step[ped] back" from the world, go here.

Comments

[Fist of Etiquette]

Yes, but how many times does he plan to vote for her in November?

[Brett L]

How many times must they "restabilize" Iraq, Fisty? The answer is: as many times as it takes.

[Brett L]

This is the guy with the space toilet from Big Bang Theory?

[The Fusionist]

Back when I still watched, and before it sunk in that they'd simply turned into a by-the-numbers sex comedy, Wolfowitz got married but still had his mother in the house.

As head of the World Bank, he also had a totally Platonic relationship with a woman who "share[d] Wolfowitz's passion for spreading democracy in the Arab world."

So if you think I'm going to make any tasteless jokes about "that's not all they were spreading" or "at least as a banker he practiced safe sex," sorry, get your minds out of the gutter, I'm not going to sink that low.

[Trshmnstr, green and mangy]

Back when I still watched, and before it sunk in that they'd simply turned into a by-the-numbers sex comedy

Right!?! I enjoyed the first couple seasons, but it turned into Friends with nerd jokes by the end of season 3.

[The Fusionist]

Well, *there's* a surprise.

[DJF]

So another reason to vote for Trump.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

FALSE FLAG OPERATION:

What better way to convince Libertarians to vote for Trump.

[SIV]

Trump calling for the legalization of all drugs for over 20 years up until he began running for the GOP nomination?
Libertarians like ending them some drugwar. Except for Libertarian Party nominee Gary Johnson who likes the prohibition.

[Suicidy]

Anyone who casts a vote for Hillary Clinton is guilty of High Treason, and should be executed (i.e. deliberately killed to death).

[Jerry on the rocks]

Hillary is going for W's 5th term!

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

Heh. I always say this to a friend of mine who is a big Obama-sucker.

[SimonD]

...except it's more like H.W.'s 8th term. Other than that, you are right. I enjoyed the attitude I get from lefty friends when I bitch about that.

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

Fair point, but the guy is like 28, so mentioning H.W. is practically the same as bringing up McKinley

[Crusty Juggler]

Would.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

We've taken a vote, and it's been decided that you should only declare when you "wouldn't", because it will result in far fewer comments.

[Crusty Juggler]

I see.

[Citizen X]

Man, it's almost as if libertarian vs. authoritarian was a more important political divide than right vs. left! Who knew?

[Hugh Akston]

Is there a specific kind of retarded associated with thinking that instability in the world is due to the US not dropping enough bombs?

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

If so, it's rampant in Washington, DC

[Gojira]

You know, a lot of times I play an aggressive psycho in these comments, but holy shit, how bloodthirsty do you actually have to be to vote for someone explicitly because you're afraid the other guy might not start enough wars for your taste? I mean what kind of human being is actually like that? The guy's a caricature of evil, along with everybody like him, and the bitch they're voting for.

[Brett L]

Or at least, why is he voting in America instead of volunteering to lead death squads in Africa or former Soviet territories? Oh, wait. That would involve personal risk.

[Hugh Akston]

Every morning, Paul Wolfowitz stands on his stepstool and looks into the mirror, deep into the cold black voids where his eyes should be, and whispers to himself "it's the world that's wrong, not me. It's the world that needs to be made right."

[Citizen X]

It's pragmatism, Gojira. Go ask Tony about it a couple threads down.

[Brett L]

Pragmatism is like utilitarianism, but you can justify killing more than half of the people in a situation?

[IndyEleven]

You're trying to maximize the greater gore.

[Curt]

This hurts my head so bad. The psycho neo-con hawk is voting for the democrat because she is the only one sufficiently committed to going to war with the entire world.

I think i'm going to have to throw this article on fb to get reactions from pro-Hilary friends. Does this news make them happy? Proud? How do they feel knowing that the candidate that supposedly represents the more peaceful party; the party that shit themselves over Bush; is now the preferred candidate of a Bush-era hawk who thinks she is the only one willing to sufficiently extend our military operations to every corner of the globe.

[wareagle]

there is a D by her name and, we're told, a vagina between her legs. The pro- friends don't care about the rest.

[SimonD]

They'll ignore it and say 'but Trump is literally Hitler. LITERALLY!!!' Rinse and repeat until the evil thoughts leave.

[PapayaSF]

I think this year counts as a "political re-alignment." Trump also gets Republican crowds excited about protecting gays from Muslims, while the "pro-gay" Democrat wants to import millions of Muslims.

[Bra Ket]

Easy to spin out of this one: Trump is so meta evil that even the evil ones cannot take him.

[lafe.long]

We are already seeing a degree of instability in the world because Obama seems to have consciously wanted to step back. Trump is going to be "Obama squared," a more extreme version of the same thing

Apparently, Wolfie didn't get the dem talking points memo about how Trump would have his finger on the nuke button and wouldn't be afraid to use it.

[wareagle]

this is what happens when Journo-List goes by the by. It's impossible to keep a consistent set of talking points, though "alt-right" has emerged as the meme d'jour, I hear.

[PapayaSF]

Oh, I'm sure there's a successor around.

[Robert]

They callin' him a nigger?

[GILMORE?]

I'm sure the WaPo is going to run right out and get a statement from Hillary on this.

She's been running for president for - how long? and when's the last time she actually took questions from the press? Did she ever? there was that time she made the 'wipe gesture' re: her server, but other than that, i can't recall anything.

[Brett L]

December 5, 2015.

[Sevo]

HRC: 'Yes, question over there?'
Reporter: 'Could you comment on what Trump said this morning?'

[Red Rocks Okey-Dokein]

"Head whips about, attempts to keep human costume from sliding off"

[SimonD]

...now if she only looked like Morena Baccarin.

[Crusty Juggler]

Hey racist, Hazel was right about you you racist, because Hillary took questions from black and Hispanic journalists earlier this month, but you probably forgot about that because, like Hazel said, you're a racist, racist.

[GILMORE?]

....She then 'raised the roof', said, "Can i get a what-what??", then did an Arsenio-fist-pump, while offering people hot-sauce from her purse.

[Sevo]

And commenting on what Trump said that morning.

[Ken Shultz]

Didn't Bolton line up behind her as well?

While the rest of world was fixated on Trump saying he would bomb ISIS (even if it meant civilian casualties, oh my!), Obama was out killing civilians in drone strikes and all the professional warmongers were lining up behind Hillary.

[Ron]

its a strange new Orwellian world we live in now.
Since Bush was such a failure how can all of his former advisors backing Hillary be good for Hillary?

[The Grinch]

From his viewpoint it's a rational voting decision. If you want to bomb Syria and possibly get into a shooting war with fucking Russia, Hillary should be your wet dream.

[IndyEleven]

Right, from the interview:

"Wolfowitz: Putin is behaving in a very dangerous way. And Trump sounds as though he would simply sit back and allow that to go on. I worry about where that would end up."

Hillary's 'reset button' basically failed, so I assume she's out of ideas. What are our options? WW3 over the Crimea?

[wareagle]

the reset button failed, breaking Libya failed, the Arab Spring failed. But don't forget how accomplished she is. My lord; hard to imagine anyone rising to THIS level of incompetence and being rewarded for it.

[Tak Kak]

The "Scoop Jackson Republican" supports Hillary (possibly)? Trump should run this as an ad non-stop.

[The Fusionist]

And millennials would say, "Scoop Jackson? Why is Trump making fun of some rapper, it must be racism!"

[Crusty Juggler]

Scoop Jackson is a sports journalist, Grandpa.

[Ayn Random Variation]

They all write alike.

[The Late P Brooks]

GOOBLE GOBBLE
GOOBLE GOBBLE
ONE OF US
ONE OF US!

[JWW]

Of course. The most hawkish candidate in the race is Hillary Clinton.

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

But don't vote Trump because he'll start a war!!!!

[The Late P Brooks]

But don't vote Trump because he'll start a war!!!!

He'll annex Austria.

[Rockabilly]

Asshat - show me Saddam's nuculur bomb

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