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Nigel Farage Compares Donald Trump to Brexit at Mississippi Rally

Trump called himself "Mr. Brexit" earlier this week.

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Nigel Farage, the leader of the United Kingdom Independence Party, whose goal to get Britain out of the European Union was accomplished this summer with a successful Brexit vote, spoke at a Trump rally held in Jacksonville, Mississippi yesterday.

Farage told rally goers he had come with a message of hope and optimism. "If the little people, if the real people, if the ordinary decent people are prepared to stand up and fight for what they believe in," Farage told the applauding crowd, "we can overcome the big banks, we can overcome the multinationals."

Farage pointed out that Brexit faced a lot of establishment opposition. "We saw experts from all over the world, we saw the International Monetary Fund, we saw Moody's, we saw S&P, we saw global leaders giving us project fear," he told Trump supporters, who watched their nominee last month present a fearful vision of America, one in which Trump positioned himself as its only savior. "They told us our economy would fall off a cliff, they told us there'd be mass unemployment, they told us investment would leave our country," Farage said, "and David Cameron, then our prime minister, but no longer, told us we might even get World War III."

"We saw the commentariat and we saw the polling industry doing everything they could to demoralize our campaign," Farage continued. Yesterday, Trump's campaign manager floated the idea that the "undercover Trump voter" that isn't showing up in polls would show up at the polls. Trump and his supporters point to unscientific online polls regularly as evidence Trump's support is being under-represented.

The pollsters and pundits were wrong, Farage argued, because Brexit campaigners reached non voters. "We reached those people who'd been let down by modern global corporatism," he explained. "We reached those people who have never voted in their lives but believe by going out and voting for Brexit they could take back control of their country, take back control of their borders, and get back their pride and self-respect."

Farage also brought up that David Cameron, the former anti-Brexit Conservative prime minister, invited President Obama to speak to Britons about the vote. "And he talked down to us, he treated us as if we were nothing," Farage insisted, "one of the oldest functioning democracies in the world, and here he was telling us to vote Remain." Farage said he would not do the same. "I could not possibly tell you how you should vote in this election," Farage said to chants of "Trump" from the crowd. "I get it," he told them. "If I was an American citizen I wouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton if you paid me. In fact, I wouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton if she paid me."

Donald Trump himself visited one of his golf courses in Scotland the day after the Brexit vote in June, and said that he had "felt" that the vote would turn out the way it did. He also drew parallels between his campaign and Brexit based on a number of issues, including anti-establishment skepticism and concern over immigration. The British just wanted to take their country back, Trump argued, like his campaign was. Many advocates of Brexit pushed back at the comparison. After Trump tweeted that he would soon be known as "Mr. Brexit," Daniel Hannan, a Conservative member of European Parliament, pushed back against the idea, pointing out as he had before that while Trump's message was a pessimistic one, Brexit's was positive, one that was "upbeat, civil, and open to global trade."

Watch Farage's speech below:

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  1. Not hard to see which one was Felix and which one was Oscar.

    1. Who?

      1. Now I feel old.

        1. Mashed just isn’t very hip. It has nothing to do with you approaching your golden years.

        2. Ok Ok, I googled it.. I have at least heard of the odd couple TV show in my life.. just didn’t know their names..

          1. I’ve already forgotten what we’re talking about.

          2. You know it was originally a play, right?

            Cripes now I feel old.

  2. Why the fuck is he campaigning in Mississippi?

    1. Because he’s a Clinton plant in the Republican party out to get the worst photo ops of all time?

      1. His next stop will be in Alaska. Because nothing says winning like wasting 15 hours on flights to hold a two hour rally in a state you’ll win barring a complete meltdown when you’re 6+ points behind in the polls.

  3. One thing about British politicians, they know how to orate.

    Compare the worst British pol to Barack Obama, and you will suddenly realize how mr “clean an articulate” really is.

    1. That’s because UK pols have to survive actual debates, complete with heckling backbenchers, in Parliament to make it anywhere. The US has nothing like that.

      1. I would love to see our Presidents subjected to Question Time.

      2. While generally true, Farrage is not a member of UK Parliament, and is still the best orator out there by a country mile. His performances in EU parliament are hilarious, as he pricks the pompous hypocrisy of right-thinking far-left, centre-left and left-left that represents the bulk of European politics.

        QT gets a too good a reputation based on a few clips. Most of the time, idiots on one side yell out a prepared statement they spent three hours rehearsing, and then the idiot on government side responds with his prepared statement that may or may not have something to do with a question. Shit, PM Zoolander is a product of Question Period and look at him!

        Sometimes, of course, you get something like Margaret Thatcher’s last performance as PM. By this point she’s giving zero fucks, since she just got deposed by her party, so she lets the Lefties have both barrels. But I don’t think it qualifies as Question Time, they are debating motion of No Confidence (i.e. disband parliament and go to election because PM just got kicked by her party).

        1. He’s a grating demagogue. Not a great orator.

          1. From someone who found Oswald Mosley to be a great orator, that’s a compliment.

          2. “Durr, people I disagree with can’t ever be good at something, they must always be terrible terrible bad men!”

            -Tony, constantly, while declaring himself to be the one with a rational and sane interpretation of events.

            1. That’s the zenith of TEAM behavior, JT. It reminds me of Pistons fans back in the day absolutely REFUSING to admit that Michael Jordan was a great player.

          3. Are you rectally ravaged? Because you sound rectally ravaged.

      3. Their accents sound smart!

  4. I know he won’t pass the purity test, but have always had a soft spot for Nigel from his great rants in EU parliament

    1. I disagree with the man on a great deal (I like Daniel Hannan much better). But I enjoy listening to the guy talk. And, bluntly, given the terrorism he has faced from the British left (I mean shit like mob violence aimed at him and his family when they went out to eat), I really don’t begrudge him his positions.

      1. Isn’t it surprising that the people who turn out against jackbooted thuggish fascism inevitable act like fascist jackbooted thugs?

        1. The left is not against fascism. They are opposed to the right wing. They adore fascism, so long as it’s the left wing variety.

        2. There was actually an MP murdered this year, you know.

          1. Yes, Tony, we know. Unless you are arguing two wrongs make a right, I don’t see how it is relevant.

      2. Farrage and Mark Steyn went before a right-on Toronto audience to discuss European ‘refugee’ crisis with a Canadian human rights lawyer and a BBC historian. Before debate, 77% of the audience was in favor of motion that “Give us your poor, wretched blahblahblah.” After, 55% were in favor. If you watch the debate, you can see why.

        Disclaimer: While I’m fond of Steyn and Farage, and loathe Arbour’s mishandling of Hague Tribunal, I do not endorse either position.

        1. Whoops, video at that link no longer works. This should.

        2. I watched that. While, I disagree with Steyn on immigration, I agreed wholeheartedly with his demolition of the cytotoxicesque denial that immigrants from the middle east bring fucked up and even criminal notions about sex from their home country.

          The fact that the pro-immigration side were willing to turn a blind eye to violent sexual assaults against not only grown women, but children was pretty appalling.

        3. It’s also important to note that the audience is full of typical Toronto and Ontario elite, who tend to lean very left wing and are very much into signalling their tolerance and liberal values (Ken Finkleman had a great takedown of them in The Newsroom). You can especially see it in the virtue signalling bad jokes about Trump and what-not at the start. If Steyn and Farrage are able to convert twenty percent of an audience like that to their side, they’re doing something right.

  5. “I wouldn’t vote for Hillary Clinton if you paid me. In fact, I wouldn’t vote for Hillary Clinton if she paid me.”

    Well played, sir. Well played.

    1. SHE doesn’t pay.
      She gets paid.
      That’s how this World works.

      1. The entire Democratic platform is based on paying for votes. You’re right, though. She gets paid both ways.

        1. Its redistribution

  6. I imagine Trump studied Farage before deciding on his style of performance.

    Related: Proggy acquaintance “If Trump gets elected do you know what the international community will think of us!?”

    Me: “I don’t give a fuck what the international community thinks of us. They can all go sit on a sharp stick.”

    *Proggie freezes, eyes bug out, stares at feet*

    1. Did s/he enact the labor of explaining that the UN is the most important political organization ever, and flattering the sensibilities of other countries’ diplomats is how we prove our worth?

      1. “A shitty deal is better than no deal.” More or less?

    2. the international community

      Do “big banks”, “multinationals”, AND “the international community” …. do they ALL mean, “The Evil Space Jews Conspiracy”, or just the first 2?

      Seriously, anytime anyone uses any of those terms, i basically feel like they’re a revival-preacher referring to the fallen angel Lucifer and his minions of demons attempting to despoil and impurify mah soul

      throw “hollywood elites” in there too.

      They’re signal-words (at least to me) that the subject matter? is not really the subject matter.

      I know there are actual ‘multinational corporations’ and actual ‘big banks’ out there who think “more liberalized international trade” is a good thing, while the people who support Farrage & Trump do not.

      But i’m not sure that’s actually what they’re talking about when they throw those terms out there. If they meant something that simple, they’d say that. Instead its some vague appeal to a “they’re out to get you!”-mentality.

      1. Yep, it’s a dog whistle, kinda like when libertarians talk about killing the welfare state when they’re really talking about their desire to screw over brown people.

        1. when libertarians talk about killing the welfare state when they’re really talking about their desire to screw over brown people.

          Is that right?

          I thought that actually meant, “killing the welfare state”

          1. That is what it means but I’ve heard that exact argument being made against libertarians. People who are trying to root out hidden messages are going to find them whether they exist or not.

      2. I remember Obama being promoted by his supporters as a president who “won’t make us look stupid around the world, like Bush did”. I think it’s a culture war thing, American redneck vs sophisticated foreigner. “Eurofags think he’s cool!” I think this is more or less exactly what Suthenboy’s friend was saying, 4 to 8 years later.

        1. I remember Obama being promoted by his supporters as a president who “won’t make us look stupid around the world, like Bush did”. I think it’s a culture war thing,

          Yeah, that much i get.

          But the inverse of it… it affects BOTH proggies and trump types. They both think “Big Banks” and “multinationals” are some cabal of evil overlords conspiring to open up markets to trade and increase commerce….which obviously is bad thing, because…. because big banks.

    3. Related: Proggy acquaintance “If Trump gets elected do you know what the international community will think of us!?”

      You know who worries about what other people think of them?

      Conservatives, that’s who.

  7. Farage is simply…

    shilling for Brexit.

  8. Reason be like, “Dodge the Farrage!”

    1. A barrage of Farage?

        1. This is all a Farage of nonsense.

  9. I would think the U.S. counterpart to Farage would be the guy who wants America to leave the United Nations.

    1. I might vote for him over Johnson. Haven’t decided yet.

  10. “Mr. Brexit? Yeah, that’s me. Ask anyone, they’ll tell you I’m the best on Brexit, the number one man about Brexit, absolutely. Let me tell you, we’ve got a lot of great people, tremendous people in Great Brexit.”

  11. “We saw the commentariat and we saw the polling industry doing everything they could to demoralize our campaign,” Farage continued. Yesterday, Trump’s campaign manager floated the idea that the “undercover Trump voter” that isn’t showing up in polls would show up at the polls.

    It seems like Krayewski is snarking, but I believe there is truth in this. No one wants to admit to being a Trump supporter because it’s viewed as somewhere between being a fan of pro wrestling and having Juggalo tattoos. The parallel to pre-vote Brexit is apt, imo.

    1. Shy Tory.

    2. Have you read anything from the collective consciousness known as John?

      1. He’s never boring, I always read John’s posts, unless they’re one of those endless arguments he gets into. I thought he was a shameless, overt Trump supporter.

        1. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, in my opinion John is easily the best commentator here. He’s entertaining, he’ll tell you what he really thinks, and he understands what libertainainism is even though he’s more of an alt-right guy.

          He’s also really good at getting into heated arguments and then still having the ability after awhile to calm down. Few people can do that and if he crosses the line he will admit it.

          John is really good at breaking the echo chamber of socially leftist thinking that often arises in these spaces and I truly appreciate it. I’m a former republican that’s not on board with every facet of libertarianism like open borders and abortion (barf).

    3. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05…..it-it.html

      “These findings suggest that Trump will head into the general election with support from voters who are reluctant to admit their preferences to a live person in a phone survey, but who may well be inclined to cast a ballot for Trump on Election Day.”

      Probably minimal though

  12. Anyone whose pride and self respect hinge on the immigration policy of the country they happen to live in… has bigger problems than said policy.

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