The Clinton Foundation Was Clearly an Avenue of Access to Hillary
Dozens paid lots of money and got meetings.


This is what "wrong within normal parameters" looks like in Washington, D.C. The Associated Press reports today that more than half of the non-government folks who met with Hillary Clinton when she was secretary of state gave donations to the Clinton Foundation.
The AP counts 85 out 154 people who either had meetings or phone conversations with Clinton as either donating themselves or through companies and groups. And this isn't chump change either. The total to the foundation from these people: $156 million. Here's what the AP found:
Donors who were granted time with Clinton included an internationally known economist who asked for her help as the Bangladesh government pressured him to resign from a nonprofit bank he ran; a Wall Street executive who sought Clinton's help with a visa problem and Estee Lauder executives who were listed as meeting with Clinton while her department worked with the firm's corporate charity to counter gender-based violence in South Africa.
The meetings between the Democratic presidential nominee and foundation donors do not appear to violate legal agreements Clinton and former president Bill Clinton signed before she joined the State Department in 2009. But the frequency of the overlaps shows the intermingling of access and donations, and fuels perceptions that giving the foundation money was a price of admission for face time with Clinton. Her calendars and emails released as recently as this week describe scores of contacts she and her top aides had with foundation donors.
The latest round of released emails prompted accusations of "pay to play" at the State Department. The response has been that providing "access" is not the same as actually providing "favors." The problem with such an argument is that "access" is in itself a favor. It's not like any of us proletarians could have gotten a meeting with Clinton.
Do keep in mind that the amount of money Paul Manafort, formerly of Donald Trump's campaign, is accused of funneling to U.S. lobbyists on behalf of interests in Ukraine and Russia is a pittance compared to the amount of money directed toward the foundation.
This shouldn't be taken a defense of Manafort's behavior or any of the lobbying went on back then. But rather it's a reminder of how this looks like outside the beltway. When the "normal parameters" look as bad as this, no wonder there's a significant number of Americans willing to ignore Trump's own form of awful financial behavior. And it helps explain why Clinton had such a hard time shaking off the likes of Sen. Bernie Sanders.
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Looked at a different way, even if she didn't do anything untoward on behalf of her donors, she is effectively withholding services from those who do not donate.
The crime isn't what she did for the donors so much as what she wouldn't do for people who wouldn't donate.
Isn't that how "hostile work environment" works for the women who weren't harrassed, but also didn't get a promotion?
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Uh oh, this thread is gonna be full of complaints that Scott focused his whole post on Clinton and barely acknowledged Trump doing the same thing. If there's one thing H&R commenters hate, it's unbalanced criticism.
Someone yesterday, claiming to be a 'libertarian for Hillary' said if Reason accepts donations from foreign sources, its the same as Clinton doing so.
Really, that was the claim.
What arms deals did Reason allow to go forward after getting those donations?
Well, there was all that gun running out of the 'embassy' in Benghazi but I suppose that YouTube video would have riled the natives up either way. Right?
I'm pretty sure Reason hasn't been running guns out of an embassy in Libya.
If I'm wrong on that - then I think I might try to apply for the next internship.
The Reason foundation allowed all arms deals that were under its jurisdiction to go forward. Shocking, isn't it?
Other than the number of zeroes at the end, this is kind of similar to Bob McDonnell, isn't it?
I'll file that one under "Tell Me Something I Don't Know"
Manafort did some work for the Ukrainian government that was at the time friendly to Russia. Hillary Clinton let the Russians control the entire US uranium industry for donations to the family foundation and exorbitant speaking fees to Bill Clinton. Naturally, it is Donald Trump who is a Russian agent.
Also, whatever the latest stupid comment Trump made is geometrically more of an outrage than the sum total of all the illegal and/or stupid crap the Hillary has actually done in her entire life.
The amount of money Manafort is accused of funneling to US lobbyists is pitiful to Clinton's annual income from speaking fees, or her speaking fees from either big banks or big pharma.
I have a family member that works for the government. They are not allowed to accept anything other than a glass of water when visiting/meeting with corporations they regulate. That means a morning meeting when they put some bagels out on the table? Ethics violation of you reach for the pastry tray. You know, because the regulators were going to fuck that company over good and hard until they received a bribe of some Krispy Kremes or a box lunch at the meeting.
But you know, SOS sells US foreign policy and it's "Phakescandul".
What the ever living fuck.
Pharma companies at conferences as far away as Japan will put out pots of coffee with signs that say, "Not for Physicians licensed in Wisconsin."
the regulators were going to fuck that company over good and hard until they received a bribe of some Krispy Kremes or a box lunch at the meeting.
With whatever respect is due to your family member I doubt it takes more than a dozen Hot Donuts Now to buy a favor from most parasites who work in government. We long ago established what the Clintons are; now we're just haggling over the price.
I don't know man - that's what we do in the military.
I am so glad that this story is getting covered here at Reason and elsewhere.
It's a step up from renting out the Lincoln bedroom.
Which was itself a step up from trading cattle futures
Just understand you are going to hell for this Scott. James Carville says so. No kidding,.
http://www.politico.com/story/.....cks-227305
What a charming man.
So Hilldawg isn't allowed to moonlight? Women can multitask, you know.
Do keep in mind that the amount of money Paul Manafort, formerly of Donald Trump's campaign, is accused of funneling to U.S. lobbyists on behalf of interests in Ukraine and Russia is a pittance compared to the amount of money directed toward the foundation.
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It was clearly pay to play and they're going to vote for anyway.
Now, see how many comments this story generates, vs. a Trump one, and ask yourself why they run what they run.
Bingo.
Correct the Record trolls steer clear of adding their voice to the comment totals on pieces like this
The Trump articles are all shilling for Trump though.
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Wait, I thought libertarians were in favor of men paying for "access" to women?
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The local Hillary apologists are on the news saying the Clinton Foundation does good work in providing clean water for impoverished folks, etc. Any info on what % of the revenue actually goes out for good works?
I haven't researched it, but I've seen wild different numbers mentioned.
"The local Hillary apologists are on the news saying the Clinton Foundation does good work in providing clean water for impoverished folks, etc"
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P.R. for a gangster organization; Clinton ain't the only one.
Hillary is not in jail speaks volumes about USA's law and order.
The Clinton Foundation Was Clearly an Avenue of Access to Hillary
I think you misspelled "Is." Bill can tell you what it means.
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To be fair, if I were wealthy, I would make big donations as well. The returns look great and with relatively high certainty.
You guys just need to think of as an investment rather than a donation
BTW, I've had the chance to talk to a number of Tea Party people about this issue.
I focused on Small government in the discussion (because that is the solution), but nobody was interested in that.
Their anger was solely directed at HC and nothing else.
Let's face it, PaP happens at all government levels; and if the PaP was done by a R, then they'd be fine with it.
$1 mil per meeting even after counting those who didn't donate!
Please tell us again how we must stop rich people from buying our political system, Hillary!
why must stop rich republican people from buying our political system. bidding wars aren't fair
Hillary thinks the best way to get money out of politics is to funnel it all into her pockets.
I believe she has not only thought it, she has proven it. Beyond doubt.
The meetings between the Democratic presidential nominee and foundation donors do not appear to violate legal agreements Clinton and former president Bill Clinton signed before she joined the State Department in 2009.
There you go; the fucking cunt of an ugly ass witch can trade access and favors [as she clearly did for Swiss Bank UBS and for the Russian Uranium deal] but will say "I did nothing 'wrong'" and her halfwitted I just want a person with a vag in the White House supporters do not give a flying fuck about it and will still vote for her because...she's fighting for them.
Meanwhile any ordinary government employee who such much as shares a password or takes a Subway sandwhich from someone loses their job and possibly their liberty.
Well, at leas she has "...always 'tried' to tell the truth.' Try telling your wife when she catches you wrapped up with another woman that you've "always tried to be faithful" and see how that plays for you.
The problem with this is... how is it any different from campaign donors who get special access to politicians and policymakers? I'm not saying what Clinton did isn't bad, I'm just trying to figure out if it's any worse than "normal".
"The problem with this is... how is it any different from campaign donors who get special access to politicians and policymakers?"
As a cabinet member, there is the assumption you aren't peddling your ass to the voters. Further, as SoS, the presumption is you are acting in behalf of the country as an institution, rather than offering blue-light specials on access to 'names'.
Overall, this is a reflection of how much a select few have access to the halls of power in this country. Proving quid pro quo has always been incredibly difficult; the Supreme Court's recent ruling narrowing the scope of "official acts" makes that all the more harder.
Yes, but nothing untoward happened! They just had a cup of coffee with Hillary! You don't think that merely talking with Hillary amounts to corruption, do you??? /sarc
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