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This Comedian Was Fined $42,000 for Telling a Joke. His Response Was Perfect.

'I'll just move to Syria or Saudia Arabia or some country that respects free speech as much as Canada does.'

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It's called the Human Rights Tribunal, but this Canadian government agency could easily be mistaken for the censorship-enforcement arm of an authoritarian country. The tribunal recently fined comedian Mike Ward $42,000 for telling a joke that some people found offensive.

The joke concerned Jeremy Gabriel, a 19-year-old Canadian singer who suffers from Treacher Collins Syndrome, a debilitating disease. Ward's joke was that the constant media coverage of Gabriel overlooks the fact that "he was supposed to die… why isn't he dead yet?" Ward suggests that Gabriel "stole a wish" and is now, in fact, unkillable.

When Gabriel's family heard about the joke, they called the Human Rights Tribunal, according to Spiked magazine. Ward then fought them in court, and lost. He has to pay a $42,000 fine: $35,000 to Gabriel, and $7,000 to Gabriel's mother.

Ward told Spiked magazine that he's appealing the decision. He says that if he ultimately loses the case, he will "just move to Syria or Saudi Arabia or some other country the respects free speech as much as Canada does."

Gabriel was disappointed to learn that Ward was appealing.

"In this case, freedom of expression is a false debate," Gabriel told CTV News. "When you use discriminatory motives that incite hatred, you can't talk about freedom of expression."

That was the judge's thinking, too.

"Unacceptable remarks made in private do not automatically become lawful just because they're made by a comedian in the public domain," wrote Judge Scott Hughes in his decision forcing Ward to pay Gabriel. "Plus, having a such a platform imposes certain responsibilities."

Ward's mistreatment is a reminder of the importance of the First Amendment—something that doesn't apply in Canada. But it's also reminiscent of the current state of free expression on American college campuses, where administrators often behave as if they are not obligated to obey the Constitution. A recent documentary, Can We Take a Joke?, explores the death of comedy and challenges to free speech rights at universities and elsewhere. Watch an interview with the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education's Greg Lukianoff, who helped make the film, below.

Ward has set up a GoFundMe account here.

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  1. “In this case, freedom of expression is a false debate,” Gabriel told CTV News. “When you use discriminatory motives that incite hatred, you can’t talk about freedom of expression.”

    I didn’t realize that one of the symptoms of Treacher Collins Syndrome was not knowing what words mean.

    1. I’m still trying to figure out if the picture is of the comedian or the “victim”.

      ZING!

      1. I imagine the way to tell them apart is that Gabriel has a big dick growing out of his forehead.

        Is that Treacher Collins Syndrome? Nope, it’s just being a wuss who can’t take a joke. Hell, I’ve been physically assaulted by a gang of white racists calling me all sorts of racial insults, and I’m not all bent out of shape about it like this Gabriel coward is for freaking joke–no physical beat-down included.

      2. If you want to sleep tonight do not Google images of people with Treacher Collins Syndrome. Holy fuck.

    2. No, you see, the point is that you can’t because in Canada they will throw you in jail if you do.

      1. Come now, every country?and every state in our great nation?sets its own lines in these little matters, and Canada is perfectly entitled to criminalize speech that incites hatred, just as anyone is entitled to criminalize libel.

        For example, several lower courts in Texas have declared that state’s “online impersonation” statute unconstitutional. They have the right to do what they want, but they should know better, for the distinguished jurists of New York’s highest court have solemnly affirmed that inappropriately deadpan written “parody” disseminated with the intent to “damage,” however truthfully, a “reputation,” is a crime punishable by incarceration at Rikers Island. Only a single, isolated liberal judge argued otherwise, in an outrageous “First Amendment dissent” that should be removed from every law library in the country. See the documentation of America’s leading criminal “satire” case at:

        http://raphaelgolbtrial.wordpress.com/

        I don’t see the “free speech community” (ha-ha-ha) complaining about this matter, or even discussing the difference between Texas and New York at all. Who would be stupid enough to actually defend the “First Amendment dissent” of one isolated judge? So give the Canadian courts a break, they are simply doing what all normal human beings would do in such circumstances.

        1. Fuck off you pretentious nob.

          1. Such language! Hopefully the next administration will take further measures not only to re-criminalize libel everywhere in this nation?the key limitation on so-called “free speech liberties” that, as Eugene Volokh has often explained, all states have the right to impose?but also to stop the Trolls of the net from insulting their fellow online citizens with offensive speech.

            1. Does denying global warming in comment sections also apply? Luckily Gary Johnson knows it’s real and ready to impose a carbon fee…not a tax and it’s “free market” don’t you know? Could you be left to call that dumb?

              1. Perhaps; but what is certain is that if anyone goes around sending out deceitfully deadpan “Gmail confessions” in Mr. Johnson’s name, the author of such fraudulent “parodies” should be arrested, prosecuted, and incarcerated using whatever legal pretext we can find, whether the messages are sent from Texas, Florida, or any other state. We should, moreover, immediately ban the Letters of Obscure Men and other similar works from our nation’s libraries, because they contain egregious impersonations of distinguished European academics of the time, whose only fault was to believe, as they were perfectly entitled to even though some of us might disagree, that certain texts considered harmful to public mores, such as the Talmud, should be burned, banned, and otherwise forbidden.

                1. Sticks and stones man, sticks and stones. What part of kindergarten did you flunk that you didn’t learn about sticks and stones?

                  If you’re serious then FUCK OFF SLAVER. You are an enemy of liberty and an affront to all free people. To ban ideas and speech is the core of tyranny and oppression, regardless of the subject. How far removed are you from banning dissenting political opinions because of……… (insert pretext here).

                  If you’re making parody, then good job, you got me;)

                  1. Excuse me, but, as the distinguished judges of New York’s highest court obviously understand, part of liberty is being free to pursue a career in academic or political life without being subjected to deceitfully deadpan “parody” that damages a reputation. And again, I don’t see the “First Amendment community” (ha-ha-ha) complaining that this important limitation on “free speech” is somehow unfair. Everybody knows that verbal sticks and stones can be just as harmful as physical ones, and even dangerous to public security, especially when they are thrown with the intent to damage reputations. This is why we now have safe spaces in many of our colleges, where our students can feel protected; this is why trigger-warnings must be attached to certain inappropriate texts; and this is why micro-aggression is forbidden by many campus codes. Hopefully, these developments will help the judges of the future take further steps towards reintroducing criminal libel throughout this great nation.

                    1. This dude is one of the greatest trolls I’ve ever seen.

                    2. Well, it’s rather ironical that you should choose to insult me in such an ignominious manner, when the point of my entire campaign is that we must use every legal pretext at our disposal to suppress the scourge of Internet Trolls that has been destroying the fabric of our society for so many years. Surely you agree that offensive “Gmail confession parodies” disseminated with the intent to “damage the reputation” of a distinguished academic department chairman should be criminalized, regardless of whether the intended damage is truthful or not, and that the courts of Texas have made a terrible mistake?

                    3. I’m sorry, if anyone thinks a guy named ‘Quixote’ is anything other than a person making hilarious satire posts they probably have a screw loose. Maybe he means what he says, but the wording tells me that he’s being massively sarcastic.

                      Well played!

                    4. You should be sorry indeed, I must say, for not taking me seriously! And for making fun of my name too. Remember, as our nation’s leading criminal “satire” case makes clear, it’s not satire unless it’s known to be satire. That’s why, as Eugene Volokh has pointed out, only “clear” parody is protected by the so-called First Amendment. Incidentally, I have repeatedly invited Eugene to join my anti-Troll crusade, or at least to add me to his conspiracy team, but he hasn’t answered me. I had hoped there would be at least one person who would give me the credibility I deserve, but instead all I get is insults from rascals and half-compliments that are even worse than insults. Eugene, if you are listening, please join me!

        2. …. Canada is perfectly entitled to criminalize speech that incites hatred…

          Hmm. What about laws that incite hatred?

          1. What about speech that incites hatred against people who happen to offend someone?

            I’d like to know who was incited to hatred by this.

            1. It doesn’t matter if anyone was actually incited, it’s the criminal intent that matters. Canada is entitled to criminalize any speech sent with the intent to incite hatred, just like New York is entitled to criminalize speech sent in the “name” of another with the intent to damage (even truthfully) a reputation.

          2. Look, you may be unhappy with a law for whatever reason, but the law is the law, get it? And anyone who crosses that line should be prepared to go to jail. A few helpful guidelines: if you make a joke that could be upsetting to some, then you should specifically state that you are just joking, and explain why your comment is funny and why it shouldn’t offend anyone. And if you are going to send out “Gmail confessions” mocking a distinguished member of the academic community, then you should explicitly label your messages “parody,” so no one can be deceived. Be aware of the lines, and be careful never to cross them.

            1. P.s. this last comment was in reply to Sasob.

    3. When you use discriminatory motives to incite hatred? Can anybody translate that word salad?

      1. I submit to The People that this statement alone is evidence of oldspeak and detrimental to The People. I order The People to re-educate this running dog lackey.

      2. You don’t speak Canadian, ‘eh buddy?

      3. “Pointing and laughing at anyone different is illegal.”

      4. “When you use discriminatory motives to incite hatred?”

        “Unapproved, Nogoodthinknik Speak” **

        There ya go, Good Dr. P.

        **Subject to interpretation and approval at any time, with or without prejudice.

    4. What’s the hatred? Against you, guy who didn’t die? Is the idea that a bunch of people are now prejudiced Treachers Collins victims?

      Fuck you, kid.

      1. And, sick-boy, let’s not forget that, if you want sympathy, you are definitely going to win people over by suing.

        Just because you are physically ill, doesn’t mean that you have to be ethically ill.

      2. “Hatred” is a flexible leftist term, like “racism” and “misogyny.” It means whatever it needs to mean to get people to shut up.

    5. …you can’t talk about freedom of expression.

      This is the finest example of irony I’ve ever encountered.

  2. this Canadian government agency could easily be mistaken for the censorship-enforcement arm of an authoritarian country.

    Mistaken for?! I’m pretty sure that’s exactly what it is.

    1. Meanwhile, Canuckistanis continue to feel smugly superior to the United States.

      1. The kind of Canadian who’s gonna be smuggest about being not-American is probably also the kind of person for whom punishing ungoodthink is a just and virtuous use of gummint force.

      2. Oh, they’re just mad because we have summer down here.

      3. You do know I was the one who first coined that term – “Canuckistanis”?

        Unfortunately, I didn’t trademark it and hence, and hence the coin is satisfaction of a job well-done.

        1. Consider yourself fortunate you did not trademark it, lest you fall under the watchful eye of the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal. You sir, have no Freedom of Expression for your clearly discriminatory motives to incite hatred.

          1. Yeah, let me come and get me! Molon Labe, you Canuckistani bitches!

      4. Superior? With those flapping heads, and beady eyes? Fact is, without us as their neighbor, those hosers would have been conquered by some commie shitbags ages ago.

    2. I wouldn’t call Canada an “authoritarian country” just because we’ll run out of words to describe the 90% of countries that are worse.

  3. “In this case, freedom of expression is a false debate,” Gabriel told CTV News. “When you use discriminatory motives that incite hatred, you can’t talk about freedom of expression.”

    Inciting hatred? That’s what comedians do?

    1. You know who else was known for inciting hatred?

      1. Sheldon Richman?

        1. Has Sheldon had anything published on Reason lately?

      2. We live in the SJW/PC era. You want me to just start going through the phonebook?

        1. We live in the Internet era. You use a phonebook? You don’t just recycle that shit as soon as it shows up on your porch?

          1. Actually since no one gets a newspaper anymore, the phone book makes a good source of starter for wood stoves and charcoal chimneys.

            1. That’s what i meant by “recycle.”

          2. That’s some anti-Luddite hate speech right there, Buddy. Canada will be billing you shortly, eh.

          3. You don’t just recycle that shit as soon as it shows up on your porch?

            I burn it in an open pit. Preferably with my old tires and motor oil.

      3. Weird Dolph Hitler?

        1. [Shudders at the thought of dolphin Hitler]

          1. Randy Marsh?

          2. “Everyone was in favor of saving Hitler’s brain. But when you put it in the body of a great white shark. Ooo, suddenly you go too far!” ?Professor Farnsworth

          3. “Everyone was in favor of saving Hitler’s brain. But when you put it in the body of a great white shark. Ooo, suddenly you go too far!” ?Professor Farnsworth

        2. Abradolph Lincler? He will emancipate you from your own inferior genetics.

      4. Snidely Whiplash?

        1. “Now now, the Canadian government has apologized for Bryan Adams on several occasions.”

          1. That bitch Anne Murray too?

        2. All that dude ever does is lay in bed.

      5. Tie Domi?

        1. You mean the ‘Sofa King’?

      6. Paul Cardin?

      7. Muhammad?

      8. Bobby Clarke?

      9. Robert Tracinski?

      10. Richard Pryor?

      11. The H&R Commentariat?

        1. The ‘Woodchipper King’?

      12. Nickleback.

      13. Ren? L?vesque?

        (And bullshit, using the ? twice does not mean the comment is not in an English script.)

      14. The carpenter’s son?

      15. Bill Laimbeer?

    2. I don’t see how that joke could possibly be seen as discriminatory or inciting hatred.

      1. By her standards, wouldn’t suing the comedian tend to incite hatred against him? Counter suit?

      2. Because you have an unfrozen brain.

        Eat ice cream. A LOT and quickly. You’ll see it then.

  4. wrote Judge Scott Hughes […] “Plus, having being allowed to have a such a platform imposes certain responsibilities.”

    Why not say what you mean, judge?

  5. “Free speech sounds like a nice idea, in theory, but come on; be serious. There are things people just shouldn’t be allowed to say.”

    1. Like – “fuck you, slavers. Fuck off and go fuck yourself”?

  6. the SJW/PC era

    It’s Canadia; RCMPC will do.

  7. “In this case, freedom of expression is a false debate,” Gabriel told CTV News. “When you use discriminatory motives that incite hatred, you can’t talk about freedom of expression.”

    Go fuck yourself, you mendacious little Brownshirt.

    Your moral character is as deformed as your face.

    1. And he better return that wish.

    2. Oh, I pity the judge. Or the prosecutor.

      I pity the judge . . . ..

  8. “In this case, freedom of expression is a false debate”

    WTF? Who taught this poor kid doublespeak like that?

    As for the comedian, you know you could just walk across the border, we’re not quite that far gone yet.

    1. The NGO coaching him.

  9. Now the best punchline to all this would be if we found out that he was living longer than he should because he went to the USA for better treatment.

  10. This Comedian Was Fined $42,000 for Telling a Joke. His Response Was Perfect.

    ‘I’ll just move to Syria or Saudia Arabia or some country that respects free speech as much as Canada does.’

    Uh, no Robby, that’s actually just stupid. And not just because you can’t spell Saudi.

    The Specialized Criminal Court in Saudi Arabia can hand out death sentences for speech that is determined to be apostasy. Canada’s speech courts, no matter how much of a joke they are, can’t hand out death sentences.

    1. The Specialized Criminal Court in Saudi Arabia can hand out death sentences for speech that is determined to be apostasy. Canada’s speech courts, no matter how much of a joke they are, can’t hand out death sentences.

      THAT’S THE JOKE

      1. And it’s not funny, and it doesn’t actually help address the idiocy of Canada’s speech laws because then people talk about how you’re being ‘dramatic’ or ‘hysterical’ and CBC spins the whole thing into you being an even bigger hate-filled xenophobic racist.

        I’ve been in this fight for the last decade, this does not help us.

        1. and it doesn’t actually help address the idiocy of Canada’s speech laws because then people talk about how you’re being ‘dramatic’ or ‘hysterical’ and CBC spins the whole thing into you being an even bigger hate-filled xenophobic racist.

          Okay, maybe a hyperbolic comparison wasn’t funny. But come on – is there anything the free speech side could say that our opponents won’t spin into RACIST SEXIST BIGOT HOMOPHOBE? That’s all they’ve got, and it seems to always win for them, so why waste time looking for the best possible response?

          Seriously, our only hope is that there’s enough reasonably intelligent people out there to see through all the bullshit.

          *takes note of Bernie Sanders supporters
          *takes note of Donald Trump supporters
          *takes note of Hillary Clinton supporters
          *takes note of Jill Stein supporters
          *takes note of safe spaces and gun-free zones and anti-drug propaganda and Occupy Wall Street and selfie deaths and gay conversion therapy and and and and…

          God, we’re fucked. *shoots self

          1. Sounds like great material for Trey and Matt, however. And PC principle,unlike Kenny, was not killed off.

        2. I laughed.

      1. I am not clicking on a video of Remy tweaking.

        1. Twerking

    2. And that makes it all right??!?!

      I had some sympathy for the kid’s plight before seeing the quote. Now I hope he dies, soon.

      1. One bright spot in repealing ObamaCare . . .’eh, Alan Grayson?

    3. “Canada’s speech courts, no matter how much of a joke they are, can’t hand out death sentences.”

      Yet.

      1. Well, all he has to do is resist the arrest.

      2. This was actually starting to be fixed under the Tories, Bill C-304 ended repealed hate speech legislation related to the internet. Of course it’s not going to continue to go in that direction with the Libs in power.

      3. But their healthcare can. Booyah!

        1. +100. Winner, winner, chicken, you know . . .

    4. And when he refuses to pay the fine?

      What killed Eric Garner?

      1. Refusing to pay a fine

    1. “9 Strange Tips That Can Be Answered By Bastards”

      1. The Shocking Tweet About Captain Sensible That Furries Shouldn’t Send To Their Parents

    2. “29 doorknobs that look like Ricky Gervais”

      Huh, that one might be legit.

      1. “Number 8 will surprise you”

  11. Fuckin Canadians.

    I knew they sucked but this is exceptionally weak.

  12. Now, if you want a really great response to the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal, Ezra Levant is your man.

    He basically just needs to add “fuck you, cut spending” and he’s Reason commentariat.

    1. Just the sound of that is so Orwellian.

      1. Well maybe they’re the tribunal that decides who deserves to have human rights, like speech.

      2. Human Rights Tribunal is Canukistani for “Room 101”

  13. Unacceptable remarks made in private do not automatically become lawful just because they’re made by a comedian in the public domain

    You realize the judge is saying he would fine anybody for saying this, regardless of whether they are in a private or public setting.

    1. Well at least he’s more consistent than Comey.

    2. It reminds me of that Reason “Be Paranoid”.

      The judge has the entire country of Canada wiretapped – she knows if you’ve been bad or good, so be good for goodness sake.

    3. More than that, he implies that saying it in private is worse. So telling your wife that the guest pastor’s sermon left a little to be desired might be a criminal offense in Canada, particularly if xe is a transgender Mexican evangelist from Ethiopia.

  14. Fuck that ruling — These SJW fucktwits don’t deserve to live in freedom – how about they all go live in Venezuela and Cuba.

    1. “These SJW fucktwits don’t deserve to live in freedom

      You haven’t been to Canada have you?

      1. My family emigrated from Massachusetts to Nova Scotia in 1763 – and left in 1850. Back to the USA.

        And there isn’t a day that goes by that I don’t thank them.

        1. Back to the USA. And there isn’t a day that goes by that I don’t thank them.

          They must not have gone back to Massachusetts then. BOOM

          1. Nope, they went out West. Hello – 1850? You should know where they went. I gave you a big hint.

            Massachusetts, though bad, is not Canuckistani bad. So even MA is better.

            1. I just wanted to make a REGION WAR joke while it’s still legal to do so.

              1. Be paranoid. Be very paranoid.

              2. I take that back – Massachusetts is its own set of BAD. They force Uber & Lyft to subsidize the taxi industry.

                Jesus Christ, what the fuck is going on?

    2. I agree. It’s like the interview I heard on David Webb’s show last week with a fellow talking about Texas seceding. Fuck that. Far better to force the progs out and not let them keep a goddamn thing.

      They don’t deserve one cubic millimeter of US soil.

  15. My wife was just texting me from Berlin and telling me how much I would love there because there’s so many places with great beer and you can take your beer and walk down the street, get on the bus or train with it, whatever. I told her that as far as I know, the US and Canada are the only countries in the world that go all retard over someone walking around with a beer. At least the only places I’ve been.

    1. Well…I would not suggest that anywhere in the Dar al-Islam

    2. I guess your wife has never been to an Arts & Wine (or Beer & Wine) festival. In California, no less.

    3. India bans open carry. Most of Asia allows it.

  16. Flemming Rose should send him an F-16 detail from the Danish Secular Caliphate.

    *ducks*

  17. RE: This Comedian Was Fined $42,000 for Telling a Joke. His Response Was Perfect.
    ‘I’ll just move to Syria or Saudia Arabia or some country that respects free speech as much as Canada does.’

    The Canadian Human Rights Tribunal was too lenient on Mike Ward. Criticizing his kommissars ruling over him can never be tolerated otherwise people will misconstrue the People’s Republic of Canada as a free country. The ruling elitist parasites in Ottawa have worked hard and long to ensure free speech, a nefarious concept at best, is eliminated to ensure their power over the little people is complete. Making fun of the country or those who rule the unwashed masses is a sign of not only contempt of the intrinsically entitled betters of his country, but also opens the door to such perverse and unsound ideas and practices as creating doubt and confusion to those who are being enslaved. All the little people in any socialist slave state have their place, job and function. Mocking those who placed the untermenschen in their proper station of society can only be judged as ingratitude and must be punished accordingly. Hopefully the socialist sociopaths will have the patience and kindness to either torture this political miscreant to death or have him shot to show who is the boss ruling The State and to remind the unwashed masses their appropriate place in society.

    1. This wasn’t the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal; this was the Quebec Human Rights Tribunal, which makes the Federal one look like an anarcho-capitalist lovefest in comparison. And while I’m having trouble confirming it, I believe the “judge” in this case isn’t a judge at all, but rather an “adjudicator” (i.e., one of the Tribunal’s bureaucrats).

      It’s a stupid case, but fully to be expected from the pur laine dirigistes that infect Quebec society with their idiocy.

      1. But Enough About Me,

        I stand corrected regarding this was a Quebeck Human Rights Tribunal. I did not read that it was in that provence, so I believed it came from Canada’s capital. It is truly frightening that speech can be so restricted in a so-called democracy. Free speech, along with disarming the populace, are the two cornerstones of developing totalitarianism.
        Of course, The State is oppressing them for the good of the collective.

  18. So, they can fine you for a bad joke in Canada? Explains why Seth Rogen, Tom Green, and Jim Carrey all immigrated here.

    1. Which they’d take Rogen back. Bieber too for that matter.

    2. Bill Murray and his rodent

  19. at a loss for acceptable, apt term for this thug-state non-sense

    which reminds me, so why is the word fascist still in the dictionary?

  20. Mark Steyn’s response was perfecter. He and a colleague risked their financial and professional necks to fight another Canadian anti-free speech star chamber and won, eventually getting Parliament to repeal one part of the country’s odious muzzling laws.

  21. Unacceptable remarks made in private do not automatically become lawful

    *scratches Canada off list of back-up countries, for good this time*

    1. Stay out of the four or six major cities and you’re fine.

      There is a serious urban/rural divide in this country for what is tolerate of this kind of crap.

      Urban centers? “Oh free speech is great but everything should be respectful.”
      Rural areas? “Fuck you, here’s the list of people my ancestors and I hated ever since we stepped onto this godforsaken land.”

    2. Unacceptable

      You’d think that if people paid money to hear you speak, and no one at the event declared the ensuing speech “unacceptable”, then its de-facto “acceptable”.

      What some other person thinks, particularly someone who wasn’t going out of their way to listen to that person, is irrelevant.

      The same goes with “offense”. It can’t be said to be ‘intended to offend’ if it isn’t said directly TO someone.

      Someone somewhere could be saying something right now which would offend me. But i’d have to go find it and listen in order for it to do so – and in the process, i’d be completely absolving that person of any “intent” since i’m voluntarily exposing myself out of interest in that person’s opinion.

      1. “Your logic is not wanted here!” – Human Rights Tribunal

    3. I wouldn’t even bother visiting the frozen fascists.

  22. discriminatory motives that incite hatred

    Which is clearly what laughter is

    1. No one ever just “tells a joke”.

      Ever.

      1. No one ever just “tells a joke”.

        If i make (or laugh at) a joke about, say, the holocaust….

        that means i am directly advocating the murder of millions of jews, then?

        1. There are some there you just can’t joke about.

          1. Like the whores chained up in your soundproof basement while Q Lazarus plays in the background?

            1. -1 horses

        2. Do you think life is beautiful?

      2. Oh, yeah, I read that thesis.

        1. You mean the series of tweets?

  23. They may not have a 1st amendment, but these HRT fines for such speech never stand up in court AFAIK.

    1. I’m sure that’s a great comfort to people who have to spend tons of time and money fighting these claims. The process is the punishment.

      1. They usually wind up w more publicity & sympathy than before. It’s theater. The HRT knows they’ll be overturned, but they enjoy pleasing their friends, & they don’t mind that the people they fine wind up pleasing their own friends.

  24. “Unacceptable remarks made in private do not automatically become lawful just because they’re made by a comedian in the public domain.”

    This judge of laws does not understand how laws work.

    Things don’t “become” lawful. Anything that isn’t expressly illegal is automatically legal. At least that’s how it is in a non-dictatorship. Oh wait!—

    1. I imagine SCOTUS is having a good laugh.

    2. This.

      Unacceptable remarks don’t automatically become lawful in some specific context… they **are** automatically lawful because free speech is a good thing.

      The more important point is that remarks do not automatically become **unlawful** because they are unacceptable or hurt somebody’s feelz. They should never “automatically” become unlawful and they should only ever become unlawful in incredibly narrow circumstances.

      1. Progtards cannot understand such concepts. Everything with them is groupthink, and feelz. They also cannot separate ideas of governance from their feelings. However they feel must be the law of the land. They can’t fathom that other people don’t think that way.

  25. What’s with all the hullaballo? Just do it like the US Government: call them a ‘jihadist’ and threaten to drown or drone them.

  26. Checking with the commentariat… is this a hill we should die on?

      1. A hill of Treacher Collins bodies?

    1. Why should we die anywhere?

    2. It’s a hill we should kill others on.

      1. That works for me too.

    3. Checking with the commentariat… is this a hill we should die on?

      You’ll need to clear that with HazelMeade first before soliciting other opinions, Paul. After checking and vetting all ethnic demographies of the parties involved first. Gotta dot those i’s and cross those t’s…

      You can take a girl outta Canuckistain, but the stain of Canuck HRT is terminal, apparently.

      1. HazelMeade is female and she pegged a Canadian? What? I am so confused.

        1. I have some distant memory where Hazel was actually a dude. But that might have been a dream, or Alice Bowie, or that time i got really drunk and… well, let’s just say some things don’t shower-away.

          1. Alice Bowie is a dude with a colostomy bag and severe dementia.

            1. Alice Bowie is a dude with a colostomy bag and severe dementia.

              He uses that colostomy bag for Trick-or-Treating.

              1. Multi tasking?

        2. Canadian? So is Hazel one of Cytotoxic’s alters?

    4. Yes. Yes, Yes, A thousand times yes.

    5. I would prefer that the progtards do the actual dying.

  27. “And what is up with airline food??”

    Triggered!!!

    1. My dick’s out for Harambe.

      1. Would someone please explain this stupid meme? A gorilla got shot in the head. BFD. Human beings are having worse done to them all over, right now, this every minute, and people are *STILL* blubbering about this ape?

        For the love of Pete…

        1. The zoo asked everyone to stop because the memes interfere with their healing. I don’t think HM and his meme-loving ilk are going to accede to the zoo’s wishes any time soon.

          1. I don’t think HM and his meme-loving ilk are going to accede to the zoo’s wishes any time soon.

            Good on him!!!!

            Well, until Canada’s HRC determines that “…hurtful memes of others’ members of the primate family…” is actionable as well. Since monkey are human equivalents (or supercede them), or something.

            1. While I was hoping it was HRC so we both could have HRCs that were pieces of shit, it’s HRT.

        2. It’s actually just a way to troll the people who acted genuinely hurt by his death. At least that’s my understanding of it

      2. These masturbation euphemisms are getting ridiculous.

  28. “It’s called the Human Rights Tribunal, but this Canadian government agency could easily be mistaken for the censorship-enforcement arm of an authoritarian country.”

    That’s no mistake. The Cdn government, for years, worked like crazy to keep people from buying decent medical care.

    1. Ooops. Scooped by WTF above.

  29. Ridiculous. His joke was pretty crass, yes, but that is no excuse to extort him for 42 grand. If you’re that offended, boycott his shows, call him a dick, and carry on with your life. Jesus.

  30. This is our future in the one-party Demotopia that will be ushered in by Hillary’s leftist Supreme Court. The anticipation is unbearable.

    1. OH GOD I HOPE HILLARY IS ELECTED AND DEMS WIN IN A LANDSLIDE AND THEY VOTE OBAMA FOR SUPREME COURT.

      (Or Jill.)

      1. My one consolation during the Obama years is that I don’t have to deal with him anymore after his second term.

        If he is appointed to the Supreme Court—god help us all.

        1. He did study constitutional law you know!

  31. So now we know why Canadians are so polite. They are afraid of getting fined.

    1. Thread winner!

    2. Just like in Demolition Man!

  32. Like I said upthread, wasn’t the Canadian HRT ? it was the Quebec HRT, which is even stupider. Which is an accomplishment of a certain flavour, I guess…

  33. May be they should also start fining doctors for telling patients “you are going to die in 6 weeks”.

    1. Only if you’re laughing and telling, telling and laughing. “Guy La Bouche, you’ve got 2 years to live and then.voila you’re gonna die. No, scratch that – you got 6 weeks! HAHAHA – Gotcha there!”

  34. We can point and laugh but it’s still cheaper than the penalty for refusing to bake a gay cake in the US.

  35. I take it back. Scott Hughes is a Quebec judge, more specifically, Associate Coordinating Judge responsible for Administrative and Appeal Division, Montreal.

    Good God. My opinion of Quebec society just took another turn for the worse. I honestly didn’t think that was possible…

  36. I’m moving to Canananada immediately and putting this whoseewhatsit tribunal on speed dial. I’ll be retiring to NH in no time, taking that filthy Canadian lucre I will win in court with me.

  37. “In this case, freedom of expression is a false debate,” Gabriel told CTV News. “When you use discriminatory motives that incite hatred, you can’t talk about freedom of expression.”

    It’s funny, I certainly didn’t hate the kid because of this disease, and I felt like the comedian was a jerk…but a jerk with rights. Now that I’ve read Gabriel’s poorly phrased yet evil response, though, I do kind of hate him.

    So does this disease make you stupid, or just fascist?

  38. Pay the little whiner in fucking nickels and dimes.

  39. All comedy is based on pain, yours or that of someone else. If we allow the government to stop comedians from telling tasteless jokes then the government will come after the rest of us, and that’s how a police state begins. Oh wait, it began a long time ago. Welcome to the United Socialist States of Canada…and America. (All hail the government’s power. Dissenters will be shot.)

  40. So reason is doing click bait Buzzfeed article titles now?

  41. How many NeoCans does it take to tell a tribunal of Newfies not to row an electric chair extension cord to the mainland?

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  45. “Baltimore Firm Has Scary Record of Prediciting World Events”? Hey, “Reason”, what the f*ck is that about?

  46. GodDAMN!

    “When you use discriminatory motives that incite hatred, you can’t talk about freedom of expression.”

    This is just fucking word salad…it not only lacks coherence, but if you try to diagram it, it makes less sense. If you take a random text, run it through an English-to-German translator, then German-to-Spanish, then back to English and subject the result to the old Gysin/Burroughs text vivisection system…you get this kind of “hints at having meaning, somewhere” result. (it’s fun! drugs help, of course…)

    And yet…and yet, I get the sense that the person quoted believes the truth of this ur-gibberish (risen from a swamp of smug feelz, principles-of-convenience and a simplistic “narrative”) to be enlightened and obvious. Amazing. And for a judge to pretend this makes enough sense to base a legal decision on? wow.

    I encountered Shirime and a libertarian SJW earlier today, so I can’t say the internets have lost the ability to surprise…

  47. Canada. Love me some Canadians (Ca-NAE-da, we call it) but got no use for the Canadian gubment.

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