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National Guard Activated But Not Deployed As Milwaukee Protests Continued on Sunday Night

Gov. Scott Walker said the National Guard would be available to aid local law enforcement "on request."

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In the wake of violent protests in Milwaukee, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker has called up the National Guard to help restore order in the state's largest city.

On Sunday, Walker said the National Guard would be available to aid local law enforcement "on request."

Police said Monday the National Guard was not deployed and was not involved in the unrest on Sunday night and early Monday morning. It was the second night of violence in one of Milwaukee's predominantly black neighborhoods.

At least two people were shot during protests on Sunday night and more cars were set on fire, according to media reports. That followed on the heels of a violent outburst on Saturday night when four police officers and 17 people were arrested as protestors set fire to police cars and four businesses in the city's Sherman Park neighborhood.

The protests began after Milwaukee police killed Sylville Smith, a 23 year-old African-American man.

The facts of this shooting—at least the facts available at the moment—make it considerably different from other recent police killings of young black men that have set off occasionally violent protests in Baltimore, Baton Rouge, Dallas, Minneapolis and elsewhere.

According to police, Smith was armed and refused officers' orders to drop his weapon before he was shot. Smith had a criminal record and was fleeing a traffic stop when the lethal confrontation with police took place.

Milwaukee Police Chief Edward Flynn on Saturday said the department has body cam footage of the incident, though it has not yet been released to the public. Flynn said the initial review suggested the shooting "certainly appeared to be within lawful bounds," Reuters reported.

The destruction of private property in Milwaukee over the weekend has been unnecessary, counterproductive, and appalling. Calling in the National Guard isn't a decision that should be made lightly, but in this case it seems to be justified.

Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett, a Democrat who twice ran against Walker in gubernatorial elections, and Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke, an outspoken Republican, both asked Walker to activate the National Guard.

Clarke has made headlines for attacking the Black Lives Matter movement and criticizing President Barack Obama for supposedly stoking anti-police sentiment in African-American communities. At the Republican National Convention last month, Clarke gave a primetime speech in which he decried Black Lives Matter protests in Baltimore and Baton Rouge as "anarchy" and praised the decision not to charge officers in Baltimore with any crimes connected to the death of Freddie Gray.

Walker, in a statement, called for calm and asked for protestors to allow an investigation to take place. Wisconsin state law requires an independent investigation anytime a police officer is involved in a deadly shooting.

The officer who shot and killed Smith has not been identified. On Sunday, Flynn told reporters that the officer was a 24-year old African-American man.

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  1. Oh man, they took out the O’Reilly Auto Parts? Now they’ve gone too far.

    1. Howard Cunningham needed parts for the DeSoto.

      1. Sit on it.

  2. According to police, Smith was armed and refused officers’ orders to drop his weapon before he was shot. Smith had a criminal record and was fleeing a traffic stop when the lethal confrontation with police took place.

    Really? We’re going to riot over this when we’ve got completely unarmed people being shot in the back or beaten to death on the street?

    1. It’s riots all the way down!

    2. I thought they purposefully chose the more divisive cases, maybe that’s just a rumor.

      1. It’s an intimidation tactic.

      2. If they chose cases where the police actually did something wrong, everyone would agree with them and they couldn’t say the system is systematically racist.

    3. Hey, I was up in your neck of the woods this weekend. Seattle was hotter than LA. What the fuck?

    4. Imagine if you will that there are two lower-class black communities — one being filled with peaceful, albeit poor, people; the other being filled with nasty shitheads who tend to prey on the former group. If a member of the former group (probably unarmed and doing nothing especially worthy of killing) is killed, why does the latter group care? On the other hand, if a violent shithead gets killed plying his violent shithead trade, time to burn some shit down.

      I mean, maybe it’s the case, maybe it isn’t, but it would at least explain the phenomenon as much as some Marxist conspiracy.

    5. Black mons usually riot for stupid reasons. I blame it on having weak minds due to a half century of thrall to the democrat party.

      1. ‘Mobs’

        1. Actually I once participated in a riot over a black mons.

  3. Milwaukee Police Chief Edward Flynn on Saturday said the department has body cam footage of the incident, though it has not yet been released to the public. Flynn said the initial review suggested the shooting “certainly appeared to be within lawful bounds”

    Apparently it’s the subsequent reviews that seem to be proving problematic.

  4. I’ve never been to Milwaukee. It’s still where Richie Cunningham, Fonzie, Lavern and Shirley live in my mind.

    Are Potsie and Ralph Mouth out there breaking windows?

    1. And tagging buildings with “Sit on it!!”

      1. Whoaaaaa!

  5. This is the pivot for me: I’m no longer sure what currency there is in calling for fundamental reforms and restructuring police forces when my supposed allies on the left, the only people whose voices are ever heard, are explicitly racializing every single incident and refusing to address exculpatory details. The result is race-baiting and riots rather than reforms. The cure seems to be worse than the disease.

    1. It’s not just the racializing that bothers me, it’s also the conflation of protesting with destroying private property.

      1. Both of you are correct. But be warned: HazelMeade might call you racist for “addressing exculpatory details.”

      2. …conflation of protesting with destroying private property.

        Are you saying that the reporting is doing this?

        It would seem that at least some of the protesters are doing the conflating here. If one wishes it to be otherwise, perhaps they should stop attacking various businesses and establishments that have no more to do with the issue other than being close at hand and making an easy target.

      3. It’s a problem and it’s reduced my faith, and a great deal of my sympathy, close to zero. The realist in me recognizes that this is power jockeying by a cynical political class harnessing the outpouring of grievances in these communities to challenge the current black leadership who did the same in their day to get where they are now. At this point I am now sublimating too much of my outrage against police abuses into opposition for the supposed protesters and their tactics and demands. I am on net coming around to supporting police if only to maintain some semblance of order.

        1. I am on net coming around to supporting police if only to maintain some semblance of order.

          I keep finding myself on the side of police in individual cases, because the threshold for “injustice” just keeps getting lower and lower. It’s a discredit to legitimate outrage and protest against police abuse.

        2. They seem to be demanding nothing less than the police abandon black neighborhoods.

          I fail to see how that will not cause eventual catastrophic harm to all law abiding black citizens in these areas….

          1. Indeed it will; the result will be whoever has the strongest arm will rule the roost, and take from anyone whatever they want. Then the complaint will be we wan’t the police, but only on the terms of whoever wants them at a given time.

            Classic damned if the do and damned if they don’t. It is a lose lose scenario.

          2. If you haven’t already, google BLM’s list of demands. One thing amongst the mostly communist, free stuff demands is the call for a ban on police body cams. WTF?

            1. Of course–without video evidence, the BlackLivesMatter race baiters are free to turn EVERY confrontation with police into a lie like Michael Brown’s “hands up, don’t shoot” lie that was later disproven by the autopsy but still floats around as truth among those whose narrative it serves.

              Video is a lot harder to propagandize over.

      4. Well, the one telling point is that if Marxists are backing these protests, they don’t actually give a damn about private property…..

    2. WAY back when this stuff started brewing, I thought “Well the racial angle is a bit odd, but if it’s the only thing that get’s people talking about meaningful police reform… maybe this will be a good thing and we can actually get issues of police reform done.”

      I mean, the publications that I read have been talking about abuses of police power and highlighting the consequences of police militarization for YEARS. It seemed at the time that even with a racial narrative thrown in there for no good reason, actually having these issues brought to light would be a good thing.

      Well I was wrong.

      This shit has set dialog on police reform, AND race relations backward.

      Now if you actually want police reform, you’re on the side of the assholes who want to loot shit. Anyone who might have been sympathetic to the cause of police reform is so turned off by these assholes that they eat up the war on cops narrative and now it looks like the militarized, unionized, lawless police are here to stay.

      And then there’s the racism. There’s the racist rhetoric that comes out of BLM protesters and then there’s the old-school racism that people are being driven to by BLM’s actions.

      1. Fucking hell, it’s like the world we’re living in is a result of some Libertarian somewhere getting the shit-end of his wishes from an asshole genie.

        “I wish we had a presidential candidate who actually told the truth and was immune to corruption.”

        “WISH GRANTED!! You get Trump!!”

        “I wish an independent candidate could seriously challenge the main candidates.”

        “WISH GRANTED!! #FeelTheBern!!”

        “I wish people in the mainstream would take police reform seriously.”

        “WISH GRANTED!! But the only people who will do so are assholes looking for an excuse to set things on fire!!”

        1. Thats what you get for thinking that Progressives have any libertarian principles at all….

        2. The Dallas Police Department was actually getting pretty high marks for reform and proactive activities; and look where that got them.

    3. Why would you think the left were your ally here? this is what they always do. They want the division and the violence. You can’t have your socialist revolution without the violence.

      But hey, both the left and the libertarians want to tear down the system. Go and swing the hammers together in harmony!

  6. Did the 4 businesses that were burned have anything to do with what happened? If not, it wasn’t a “violent protest”, it was just a riot.

    1. You terk mah werds!

    2. They paid taxes, taxes which fund the municipal government, and now they’re no longer paying taxes. It’s a crude sort of Bolshevism at work here.

  7. Everybody refers to this as “violent protests”. They sure look like riots to me. I’m curious as to why they aren’t called riots.

    Oh, and I think Walker did the right thing here. Get the NG staged and ready to go in, but let’s wait for the locals to call for help before we go bigfooting around with virtual martial law.

    1. Well, they can’t call it “workplace violence” because the rioters are unlikely to have jobs….

      1. And at least one of them is really angry that no one is giving him some of their money.

    2. If they were white people we’d call it ‘celebrating their teams big win’.

      1. This is why NYC is nothing but cinders after 27 Yankees World Series championships.

        1. All the white people are Mets fans?

      2. Fucking hell, someone I actually like posted that same shit on Facebook. And we live in fucking Milwaukee.

        “Asshole sports fans commit arson with impunity. So why SHOULDN’T we light our homes on fire?!”

      3. Citations please? When the Saints won the Super Bowl there was definitely some celebrating [hell had indeed frozen over, after all], but I don’t recall anyone burning down the local auto parts store.

    3. Oh, and I think Walker did the right thing here.

      Why do you think the left is so outraged? They were getting the narrative staged and ready to go.

    4. SLD, I know Walker is still a pro-government guy, but he at least appears to be competent at everything except campaigning. Seeing him have to quit makes me want to kick Jeb! and Marco Rubio in the nuts.

      1. I wish they had quit en masse back when Walker dropped out. Maybe clothesline Kasich on their way out. A Cruz-Trump race would have looked very different.

      2. “competent at everything except campaigning”

        The bitch won the hell out of that recall election, you have to give him that.

      3. Yeah, he’s the guy I think really should be President, but it seem we as a nation are no capable of electing a competent President anymore….

    5. I’m curious as to why they aren’t called riots.

      As curious as Humpty Dumpty?

  8. The destruction of private property in Milwaukee over the weekend has been unnecessary, counter-productive and appalling. Calling in the National Guard isn’t a decision that should be made lightly, but in this case it seems to be justified.

    Way to suck up Big Gov, Eric.
    I do approve of the finger wagging “appalling” though.

  9. Metaphor alert* but… if I had a really strong disagreement/argument with my wife, it would not occur to me that burning down my neighborhood was a good way to express my rage. What the fuck is wrong with people doing this shit?
    If they set City Hall on fire, I’d at least recognize the symbolism. Burning down an auto parts store that probably provides jobs and services to the community sure seems like a shitty way to get people on your side, no? I wouldn’t dignify shit like this as anything other than aggressive anarchy, and I’ll be happy to watch if someone on the PD gets tired of the shit and puts a big foot up the rioter’s collective asses.

    1. There was video on the TV last night of people running out of stores with cases of Cheetos, among other things. Because justice, I guess.

      1. No Justice, No Cheetos

      2. This is why they are poor. You have a limited window of time to steal shit, and you pick an armload of Cheetos instead of ripping off the ATM in the same store. SLD, theft is wrong.

        1. They may have tried. ATMs are armored like tanks and I think they are actually anchored to the Earth’s core.

          So, yeah, Cheetos.

    2. If you burn down an auto parts store that was providing jobs and services, you get the bonus of claiming that businesses are RAAAACCISSSSTT when they see what happened to the auto parts store and decide not to open one of their own branches in that neighborhood.

    3. There is a certain justice in the fact that those businesses will probably never re-open (hell, I wouldn’t) and now that neighborhood will be without a gas station, an auto parts store and whatever the hell else these assholes burn down.

  10. “In the wake of violent protests in Milwaukee, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker has called up the National Guard to help restore order in the state’s largest city.”

    I was in the middle of the L.A. Riots.

    Really, it’s okay to use the word “riot”.

    Do you imagine the word “riot” is racist somehow?

    Maybe you’re being sarcastic? ’cause that would make it kinda funny.

    #AlwaysHillary says: It wasn’t a riot! It was a “violent protest”!

    LOL

    1. Calling it a violent protest is a perversion of the language. Storming the Bastille was a violent protest. Seizing Harper’s Ferry was a violent protest.

      Burning down the local auto part store, a gas station, and a hair salon is juat a riot.

  11. >That followed on the heels of a violent outburst on Saturday night when four police officers and 17 people were arrested as protestors set fire to police cars and four businesses in the city’s Sherman Park neighborhood.

    Are you saying that four police officers were arrested?

    1. B-
      That’s what I was hoping against hope had happened.

    2. I think there must be a typo… article on Reuters makes more sense:

      “The shooting led to a first night of protests over his death in which gunshots were fired, six businesses were torched and 17 people were arrested. Police reported four officers were injured and police cars were damaged before calm was restored.”
      http://www.reuters.com/article…..SKCN10P06W

  12. Twenty three bullets.

    twenty three!!!!!!

  13. From now on, only black cops are allowed to shoot people. Then maybe you’ll shut the fuck up and run out of excuses to loot and pillage.

    1. Didn’t start it this time.

      1. Dammit. Didn’t STOP it this time.

  14. The officer who shot and killed Smith has not been identified. On Sunday, Flynn told reporters that the officer was a 24-year old African-American man.

    Well, that’s gonna fuck up the narrative. Better suppress that fact before it causes trouble. Also, better not let it get out that the victim appeared to be raising his firearm.

    1. Also, better not let it get out that the victim appeared to be raising his firearm.

      I won’t take that leap until I see me some video, thanks.

    2. NBC and CNN will label him a ‘white negro’.

  15. “make it considerably different from other recent police killings of young black men”
    Guy had a gun and was using it against the cops. Sounds like a lot of the high profile cases of late.

  16. Well, this whole thing did cause body cameras to become a thing. Otherwise it’s been a sad joke from the beginning.

  17. You gotta be really fucking stupid to burn down the auto parts store because some dude got shot by the cops.

  18. I’ve actually had someone tell me that burning down businesses is an excellent way to publicize racist abuses, because the public won’t pay attention otherwise.

    I wonder if that guy would volunteer to burn down his own house for the cause?

    1. I hope business owners learn from the Koreans who used deadly force to defend their businesses during the Rodney King riots. Nothing thins things out like some dead rioters.

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