Cleveland Police Union President: Suspend Open-Carry, Obama Has 'Blood on His Hands'
Doesn't care if suspending open-carry is constitutional; fortunately Gov. Kasich does.


Following the shooting of six police officers, three of whom died, in Baton Rouge on Sunday, the president of the Cleveland Police Patrolmen's Association called on Gov. John Kasich (R-Ohio) to suspend open-carry in Cuyahoga County for this week's Republican National Convention.
"We are sending a letter to Gov. Kasich requesting assistance from him. He could very easily do some kind of executive order or something—I don't care if it's constitutional or not at this point," Stephen Loomis, the union president, told CNN. "They can fight about it after the RNC or they can lift it after the RNC, but I want him to absolutely outlaw open-carry in Cuyahoga County until this RNC is over."
Kasich dismissed the request, pointing out that "Ohio governors do not have the power to arbitrarily suspend federal and state constitutional rights or state laws as suggested."
"The bonds between our communities and police must be reset and rebuilt—as we're doing in Ohio—so our communities and officers can both be safe. Everyone has an important role to play in that renewal," Kasich said according to CNN.
Loomis insists he was pro-Constitution. "We are constitutional law enforcement, we love the Constitution, support it and defend it, but you can't go into a crowded theater and scream fire," Loomis said. "And that's exactly what they're doing by bringing those guns down there."
A few years ago Ken "Popehat" White called Oliver Wendell Holmes' "fire in a crowded theater," more or less a defense of laws limiting free speech in times of war, "the most famous and pervasive lazy cheat in American dialogue about free speech." It has now moved on to gun rights.
It would be one thing if the union president were merely expressing his opinion or the opinion of the union—that's not quite "fire in a crowded theater" speech—but the union president also appeared to speak as a ranking police authority, illustrating one of the many dangerous of permitting police officers to unionize in the first place.
"We are going to be looking very, very hard at anyone who has an open carry," Loomis told CNN. "An AR-15, a shotgun, multiple handguns. It's irresponsible of those folks—especially right now—to be coming downtown with open carry AR's or anything else. I couldn't care less if it's legal or not," the self-described Constitution-lover said.
Later, in an interview on Fox News, Loomis blamed President Obama and the governor of Minnesota for commenting on police-involved shootings last week.
"It's absolutely insane that we have a president of the United States and a governor of Minnesota making the statements they made less than one day after the police-involved shootings," Loomis complained. "And those police-involved shootings, make no mistake, are what absolutely have triggered this rash of senseless murders of law enforcement officers across this country. It's reprehensible. And the president of the United States has blood on his hands that will not be able to come washed off."
Previously, Loomis called the 5-foot-7, 191 pound 12-year-old Tamir Rice, fatally shot by a police officer who exited his vehicle just moments earlier "menacing." Loomis is free to say what he wants, but police unions' often antagonistic contributions to discussions of police violence and reform, coupled with their power to extract far-reaching concession from the governments their members are supposed to be employed by, offer a powerful argument against their existence. Collective bargaining privileges have been packaged as "rights" while used with few qualms to argue against yours.
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It's only irresponsible because going into an area with a bunch paranoid, jittery, and likely roided out cops is never a good idea.
Kasich doesn't give a shit about the Constitution. All he cares about is preserving his political viability.
Kasich can be credited with passage of the '94 Crime Bill and its "assault weapons" ban. It couldn't have passed w/o his efforts in the House.
In fairness to Kasich, that was 22 years ago. Perhaps he's realized some things since then. Also, I'm not sure that the assault weapons ban, as useless as it was, is quite the same thing as a governor unilaterally overriding the laws of a state.
Pretty sure it isn't the gun that yells, "Fire".
Except when we don't.
Yeah, 'I support free speech, except...'
The Cleveland PD shits its pants and murders a 12 year old holding a toy gun. I'd definitely recommend not open carrying anywhere around those idiots unless you want to resemble a colander.
The way I read that at first, I thought the Plain Dealer had shot a kid somehow.
There it is.
I know the mask slipped off a long time ago, but usually they try to pretend it's still on.
Cop crosses the line of legality to capture dope peddling Colombian. Go ahead, make his day. Diplomatic immunity.
We need to destroy this village idiot in order to save him.
Covered earlier (h/t HM)
Not even legal. Fucking constitutional The dude claims to be a defender of the constitution. But then essentially says "just this once"
He has a number of other 100% pure retard quotes, one of which is "The governor could easily sign an executive order or something"...
This could be the dumbest thing with a pulse.
Mr. Loomis, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Late to the party, Ed!
Erdogan wants no delay in killing the plotters. You know who else thought a rush to judgement was just a fine idea?
Frodo Baggins?
Fredo Corleone
And people were serious, and may still be, about admitting Turkey to the EU.
Going on a mass execution binge would certainly end that given that they had to abolish capital punishment for consideration of joining the EU.
someone needs to payt the bills.
This whole thing stinks.
Oops; scooped!
straffinrun|7.17.16 @ 11:12PM|#
"Erdogan wants no delay in killing the plotters."
There is a smell here, and it is not of roses...
Yeah, this has more than a slight whiff of a staged coup.
Anna Merlan?
Judith Sheindlin?
Yeah, so they can't figure out that the whole thing was a sham that Erdogan set up to begin with.
OT: Jill Stein Pledges to Pardon Snowden And Appoint Him To Her Cabinet
That's a novel political ploy.
If she wouldn't nationalize all industry at the same time, she might get my vote.
Honestly I'm not even sure what her gripe with the NSA is. Because if she were president she'd need a whole hell of a lot of NSA.
They are trying to start a war on guns now that the war on drugs is dying down. Unfortunately their comrades in private security and the military are willing to play the stooge in this. They will brand such people as 'mentally ill', along with the people who point out this dynamic. We must keep in mind that it's an existential crisis for them, since they've justified their lives on 'protecting' others. Even if they must become the threat.
the war on drugs is dying down
LOL, comic gold.
No. The more open carry, the better.
*I would concealed carry*
As an alternative proposal, have the cops disarm during the GOP convention and call on private armed citizens there to protect and assist the disarmed cops as needed. The cop-shooters, after all, are only a few bad apples, as small a proportion of armed private citizens as the 'bad cops' are as a proportion of good & decent cops. So if the cops disarm, they'll be safe from any cop-shooters - just as much as ordinary private citizens are safe from the cops.
Hmm, you're ideas intrigue me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
"I don't care if it's constitutional or not at this point," Stephen Loomis, the union president, told CNN
, in an apparent reference to a recommendation that he be fed into a woodchipper.
Fuck him in the ass with a rusty fork. Then the woodchipper. (obvious juvenile bluster is obvious)
"We are sending a letter to Gov. Kasich requesting assistance from him. He could very easily do some kind of executive order or something?I don't care if it's legal or not at this point.They can abitrate about it after or they can lift it after hell freezes over, but I want him to absolutely fire Stephen Loomis and make sure he never pretends to be a police officer in Cuyahoga County or anywhere else."
This is the dangerous mindset of a tyrant. You know what Kasich should do? Sign an executive order banning public employees from unionizing.
Amen!
But wait...that would be unconstitutional...
Would it?
So GayJay is a #BlackLivesMatter Republican. No wonder Robby X and his cosmotarian cohorts are so supportive
"We are sending a letter to Gov. Kasich requesting assistance from him. He could very easily do some kind of executive order or something?I don't care if it's constitutional or not at this point," Stephen Loomis, the union president, told CNN. "They can fight about it after the RNC or they can lift it after the RNC, but I want him to absolutely outlaw open-carry in Cuyahoga County until this RNC is over."
"We are constitutional law enforcement, we love the Constitution, support it and defend it, but you can't go into a crowded theater and scream fire," Loomis said. "And that's exactly what they're doing by bringing those guns down there."
"We are going to be looking very, very hard at anyone who has an open carry," Loomis told CNN. "An AR-15, a shotgun, multiple handguns. It's irresponsible of those folks?especially right now?to be coming downtown with open carry AR's or anything else. I couldn't care less if it's legal or not,"
Fuck this guy. No, seriously, fuck you, Loomis. Authoritarian pieces of shit like this fucker are EXACTLY why we have the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Alan Vega Dead
He was the one you fight after Balrog and before Sagat, right?
I've read some of Sagat's restaurant reviews, I haven't read the Balrog's, I suppose he adds points if the food screams when you eat it?
Naw, I think Balrog just serves shish-ke-bobs served on swords.
"Shish" (or more appropriately, "?i?") actually means "sword", so "sword meat served on swords".
/pedantry
I thought his name was Luka.
"A hundred women shed their clothes in protest at the RNC convention for art, empowerment"
http://www.sfgate.com/news/us-.....383357.php
We can hope HRC doesn't do the same at the DNC.
Or maybe not; that might cause a major shut-down of TV viewers...
Here's some video footage
Any lookers in the bunch?
My general rule pf thumb is that all the people who are willing to strip it all off and dance around naked, are not people you want to see naked.
When choreographers take too many drugs
anarchy!
Our trip down memory lane continues as we go back to the 80s and listen to something by the Go Gos - I mean, not performed by the Go Gos, but by people who are just as sexy.
Trump would call this Scorpions cover "low energy," but he'd still watch it.
Sorry about that, here's the real thing.
Yeah, but who remembers The Scorpions singing anything other than "Winds of Change?" It was kind of a nice thought at the end of the cold war.
But 20 years later it makes "We are the World" look like "Fuck the Police."
Here they are, rocking you like a hurricane.
Continuing our nostalgia trip, let's return to summers long ago
That's just cruel.
OK, I get the hint, but before I go, here's one more link:
For people in certain jurisdictions only - relaxation suggestions (NSFW)
It was Black Panthers open carrying that helped provoke the advent of modern gun control.
"The Mulford Act was a 1967 California bill that repealed a law allowing public carrying of loaded firearms. Named after Republican assemblyman Don Mulford, the bill was crafted in response to members of the Black Panther Party who were conducting armed patrols of Oakland neighborhoods while they were conducting what would later be termed copwatching. They garnered national attention after the Black Panthers marched bearing arms upon the California State Capitol to protest the bill.[1][2]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act
http://tinyurl.com/z7x6eas
The more things change, . . .
Talk about making two enemies with one statement.
Loomis is a union goon. Unions are hardcore leftist totalitarians at heart, so he's doing what comes naturally.
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