President Obama Addresses Dallas Shootout, Talks About Access to 'Powerful Weapons'
Says we don't know all the facts, but gun control is going to be an issue.


President Obama addressed last night's shooting in Dallas, where multiple snipers shot and killed five police officers, wounding six others, during a Black Lives Matter rally over the police shootings of Alton Sterling in Louisiana and Philando Castile in Minnesota.
"We still don't know all the facts," President Obama said at the beginning of a press conference in Warsaw, where a NATO summit is being held. "What we do know is that there has been a vicious, calculated and despicable attack on law enforcement."
"Police in Dallas were on duty doing their jobs keeping people safe during peaceful protests," the president said. "These law enforcement officers were targeted."
"I believe I speak for every single American when I say we are horrified by these events and stand united with the people and police department of Dallas," the president said he told the Dallas mayor.
The president said there were multiple suspects and that the country would "learn more about motivations" soon, although there was "no possible kind of justification for these kinds of attacks or any violence against law enforcement."
"I will have more to say about this as the facts become more clear," the president said while noting that even in his comments yesterday about the police shootings that precipitated protests in Dallas and around the country that police "had an extraordinary difficult job and the vast majority of them do their job in outstanding fashion."
"I also indicated the degree to which we need to be supportive of those officers that do their jobs each day," he said. "Today is a wrenching reminder of the sacrifices that they make for us."
"We also know that when people are armed with powerful weapons unfortunately it makes attacks like these more deadly and more tragic," he continued, "and in the days ahead we'll have to consider those realities as well."
Unless the snipers turn out to be former law enforcement officials or another special class with privileged access to weapons, in which case, as with the Orlando shooter who worked for a major Homeland Security contractor with all kinds of weapons clearance, the details won't matter. Earlier this year a police officer in Philadelphia was killed using a gun that had been previously stolen from the police department.
"But today our focus is on the victims and the families," Obama continued. "They are heartbroken. the whole city is grieving. Police around the country, a tight knit community, are grieving like a family." He asked Americans for "prayers as a nation" and to express "profound gratitude to our men and women in blue, not just today but every day."
The Dallas shooting was the deadliest event for law enforcement since 9/11, when 72 law enforcement officials died.
The Dallas downtown area is still reportedly being swept for suspects as well as bombs, which one of the suspects claimed had been planted.
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Mr. President.
When over a dozen police officers are shot during a protest of police violence, I don't think it can be called a peaceful protest.
"Oh, very well. *Mostly* peaceful."
When a ton of protesters do nothing to participate in the violence happening, it's equally hard to label it a violent protest.
But everyone needs it to be neatly sorted into one of two categories so we can form our battle lines like usual.
Ummm remember how the fucking progressives blamed Chrisians for a Muslim shooting gay people in Orlando?
Hell in Orlando the people "protesting" against gays weren't even there and they were blamed....
I'd like to do a better job keeping the higher ground that fucking progressives, myself.
"Peaceful protest marred by violent attack" seems like the right headline.
I was at a peaceful attack once that was marred by violent protests.
"I'd like to do a better job keeping the higher ground that fucking progressives, myself."
Well sure, but that is just unilateral disarmament.
Game theory clearly demonstrates that tit for tat is the only viable strategy in a prisoner's dilemma setting.
Cheap shots beget cheap shots, and double standards can only be eliminated in kind. You know, hold your enemy to his own standards...
"Game theory clearly demonstrates that tit for tat is the only viable strategy in a prisoner's dilemma setting."
Lol. So many deep fails in one sentence. Prisoners dilemma is irrelevant to this discussion. Plus, prisomers dilemma is a dilemma precisely because there *is* no viable strategy.
Good Lord. You are, in fact, the one who has failed. Thomas is quite right to point out that there is a branch of mathematics known as game theory, and that the Prisoner's Dilemma is central to it. If Thomas had been a bit more precise he would have said "Iterated Prisoner's Dilemma," but I imagine he wasn't addressing cretins. The optimal strategy for the iterated Prisoner's dilemma does in fact seem to be tit-for-tat.
I'm not sure how to say this politely, so I will just say that you should be more careful when insulting people who clearly know more than you about a given subject. Thomas got things a bit wrong, but you...
They blamed Donald Trump for thugs assaulting people who attended his rallies.
So.... blame BLM?
Not your fault, mind, but every time I see the abbreviation BLM I read it as Bureau of Land Management, which makes for a slightly surreal debate. I mean, I dislike the Bureau, and it isn't like involving it in this incident is any more of a non sequitur than Obama's gibbering about "Powerful Rifles" concerning a shooting by a mook with a bolt-action fixed magazine rifle firing a mid-range cartridge - a rifle that was considered outmoded as a military rifle in 1957.
D-
"Dallas police say the shooter was not affiliated with protesters."
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...since police died opportunistically looting.
"We also know that when people are armed with powerful weapons unfortunately it makes attacks like these more deadly and more tragic," he continued, "and in the days ahead we'll have to consider those realities as well."
Yup, definitely more tragic than beheadings or explosives. Fucking asshole.
At least Obama is an equal opportunity opportunist - he dances on dead cops as easily as on dead kids or dead gays.
+1
+2
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This
But he dances a different dance each time. White person kills black people because they're black: we need to have a conversation about race. Here a black person kills white people (I'm guessing all of the cops were white?) because they're white (and because they're police): we need to have a conversation about guns.
I'll bet he's talking about the little .223 .A couple guys with .30 cal deer rifles could have done this.Of course the cop suckers are all ready blaming people who are 'anti police' and all the coverage of these police shootings.
More kinetic energy than the kinetic action on wedding parties.
I was sure they would ve saying we need to wait to see what actually happened and not jump to conclusions
"We still don't know all the facts"
But I'm going to demagogue anyway...
"We also know that when people are armed with powerful weapons unfortunately it makes attacks like these more deadly and more tragic,"
We also know that when people are armed with powerful weapons unfortunately it makes attacks like these more deadly and more tragic
"More tragic" -- what?
Rifle, Hunting
Martial Ranged Weapon
Damage: 2d8
Properties:
"More Tragic" Deals an additional 2d8 damage to creatures of a subtype chosen by the DM.
Any creature of the non-western foreigner type is immune to the more tragic ability.
That word is beyond saving now that it's been common-sensified by BHO and his howlin' media commandos.
Such a tragedy.
'Only government agents should have powerful weapons,like the one's that'll guard my ass for the rest of my life'
I thought the law was changed to eliminate lifetime protection. Now it's only for a fixed period.
Of course, your larger point that the wealthy and powerful can always get protection still stands.
Per Rangel, "we deserve protection", which I agree with if he meant "we don't deserve protection.".
I know we joke about cooling bodies around here, but that asshole literally did it this time. And he did it before sunrise.
Do you think he's trolling us?
I could see him being one of the socks here, I mean he doesn't have anything better to do with his time anyways apparently.
I bet he didn't even wait till the bodies made it to the morgue to start tweeting #whitelivesmatter.
"We also know that when people are armed with powerful weapons unfortunately it makes attacks like these more deadly and more tragic," he continued, "and in the days ahead we'll have to consider those realities as well."
*finishes stoking coals*
"But today our focus is on the victims and the families."
*wipes charcoal begrimed hands on grieving mother.*
Do you think Kevin Sorbo ever wore a man bun?
His locks are far too manful to be constrained by anything but majestically blowing wind.
Not even a butterfly clip?
No, because the butterfly clip is a secret weapon that Hera gifted to some stooges to kill Hercules.
After announcing their malign intent (and waiting for a brief commercial break) the stooges would bungle the operation.
I am absolutely cupping these nostalgia-farts.
Oh what the fuck. I go to bed early and all this shit happens? Fucking awful.
I hope this is the worst this summer gets.
Summer's only just begun. I too hope for no more murders and no Australia-style gun ban initiatives. Jesus fuck, what a mess.
Thanks for weighing in, Prez Barry!
Motherfucker never misses a chance does he? They're actually going to turn this into a gun control moment and the Reps will go along because, you know, cops. What a bad fucking situation.
And these fucker sure as hell didn't use wimpy AR 15s.
The days of "we're not coming after your hunting weapons" are over.
^THIS^
If they had used ARs, that would've been plastered all over the headlines by now
"I believe I speak for every single American when I say we are horrified by these events and stand united with the people and police department of Dallas," the president said he told the Dallas mayor.
So, the president believes the shooters are not American?
Or they were married ("every *single* American")
Nice catch.
Fucking Obama should be banned from using the word United. Most divisive President of all time.
News is reporting a comment from the police. Thank god there is no 911 tape like in Orlando. We're NEVER going to "know" what the motivation of theses shooters is.
No True American fallacy
I for one demand to see a birth certificate.
The shooters of interest are trooper Tiller of Seneca, cleared of murder one by Crissy Adams without even a mock trial. Then the cop in Romney's Utah who murdered Dillon Taylor. What abt the cops that shot the naked guy until he looked like a pincushion? I could go on and on, but surely anything smarter than a bug starts to notice a pattern of jackbooted minions of the looter kleptocracy murdering its slaves on the flimsiest of pretexts.
Go ahead. Come crying to me for sympathy.
In 1777 men in public service were shot simply for wearing red coats... that and murdering colonists on orders from greasy looters.
Time to stock up on guns, ammo, food and fuel. Winter is coming.
Heading out tomorrow to put a scarier looking stock on my Bushmaster Carbon 15 and order either a Glock 30SF or an HK 45 USP Compact. Have not decided which. Any thoughts on which would make the left piss themselves more? I know they think all semi-autos and most other things are Glocks, but I really want the one that makes them "sploosh" on sight.
Go with the Glock. The trigger on the HK is crap. Try 'em both out if you can before purchasing, perhaps by renting at a range or at least by dry-firing at the gun shop.
I love my 30.
What the actual fuck? This news reads like a hastily-written thriller - heavy-handed and implausible.
Snipers take advantage of a Black Lives Matter demonstration to kill several police?
Are they amateurs who made some "lucky" shots (lucky from the shooters' point of view only, that is), or are they experienced marksmen?
More and more, we have stuff happening in the U.S. that Americans have been accustomed to think of in terms of "stuff that takes places in unstable foreign countries."
"stuff that takes places in unstable foreign countries."
Cultivate the conditions of a banana republic and you will increasingly look like one.
Spot on, Suthenboy.
We officially became a banana republic on July 5th, 2016. People are aware of the "double standard" at all levels, many only subconsciously. Obama created the conditions for a very big snowball. He owns this. Let's see him try to push it back uphill. Who will respect ANY law now?
He will not be trying to push the snowball back up the hill. This is the prelude to declaring martial law at some point in the future in order for him to remain in power, exactly how banana republics are designed to work for the dictator and his supporters.
I suppose all the hipsters wearing Che t-shirts will end up actually helping to foment a violent revolution that installs a communist/socialist dictator--oh they irony! But hipsters do love their ironic trucker hats, so maybe they'll get a kick out of the irony of the irony.
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Agree with you 100%. Both sides of the aisle are statist that have actively worked to polarize every issue to the point being a progressive or conservative matter more than being an American. The genie that's going to come out of the bottle is going to be ugly if as a nation we don't figure out how to be reasonable again.
Take advantage of BLM....
If this were a Tea Party rally it would be TEA PARTY CAUSES DEATH OF COPS!!!!!
I fucking hate the media with the heat of 1000 suns...,
(not to mention prolife rallies)
Any time now I expect the articles: "these shootings are simply the logical consequence of BLM's ideas blah blah"
Heh, you're going to be waiting a loooong time.
Could be a David French article in NR
well since Barry is already blaming the guns instead of the shooters they will soon place the blame with the GOP and the NRA by Monday
Monday? Try the Sunday talk shows!
To be fair, most people automatically jumped to the conclusion that this was related to the protests. Hence the brother of the organizer's picture being plastered on every fucking station and DPD's site as a "suspect" for something like 2 or 3 hours.
in the MSM, "sniper" = anyone who can hit a 2'X4' target with a rifle at 50 yards. "Sniper rifle" = any rifle not labelled an "assault weapon."
I haven't watched the videos myself, but from the descriptions I've heard, the shooters seemed to be at least somewhat trained and professional in their tactics and behavior. They weren't just random yahoos spraying and praying.
There was a lot more of this bullshit in the 1960's than now.
Violence actually has been declining significantly over the last few decades.
"We also know that when people are armed with powerful weapons unfortunately it makes attacks like these more deadly and more tragic," he continued, "and in the days ahead we'll have to consider those realities as well."
What "we" actually know is that the first order of business for Obama after any shooting is to agitate for punishing everyone who DIDN'T do it by inflicting more restrictions on their Constitutional right to keep and bear arms.
We need Sam Vimes, and we need him now.
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From what I recall, Pratchett had a very literally animistic take on the Gonne.
The progressives with this one will have to prove all their "we aren't going after your hunting weapons" to be a lie.
But then again everything they say about gun control that isn't "we want to confiscate all of your guns" is a lie.
Fuck you Barry. You cant have my guns.
+7.62x39
It's strange that so few people seem to see Obama for what he is, even though he proves he has no substance, no ideas, no nothing other than "doing something which liberals will like and appears to be doing something".
The proof here, through all the shootings during his presidency, and the infinite number of differences between them, his solution is the same every time.
Different motives, different MO, different weapons, different, different, different.
Yet his solution remains the same.
The only difference are the victims he uses to push policies he's knows will not any shooting, but never let a crisis go to waste....or rather now it's: never let a shooting victim go unexploited.
That's because the side benefits to progressives of confiscating weapons from law abiding citizens are huge.
So what's the narrative when a cop killer at a BLM rally is motivated by his self-professed hatred for white people? More warmed over gun control rants and the spectacle of Lewis & Pelosi wallowing around on the floor?
"Lewis & Pelosi wallowing around on the floor"
now i can't eat my lunch and thats 3 hours away
"White people, some black people apparently want to murder you all. Therefore, please give up the guns that you keep mainly to stop criminals (which, be honest, you probably imagine as lower-class blacks) from killing you."
That sounds like a real winner.
HRC: That sounds great! Run it past a focus group!
A long silence as Huma and various apparatchiks and apple-polishers look at their feet in discomfort
The response to those rants needs to reflexively be: The cops who murder people murder with guns. When they are disarmed then we can discuss it.
Further down the shittube we go. I feel for the officers and their families, the one officer just got married, sad.
Unfortunately this is going to give antigunners so much ammo and momentum, just when I was hoping the tide was turning in the favor for reform of law enforcement, now it'll probably swing the other way.
Why is it that when a white man kills a black man he knows all he needs to in 10 seconds but if it is the other way around he has to wait for the facts. Obama you are a damn racist.
True that.
+1 son who would look like Trayvon
I'll believe gun laws can stop this, just as soon as the idiot president demonstrates that drug laws have stopped drugs.
War on Poverty (more poverty than ever), War on Drugs (easy access to anything you want, unless it is cheap prescription medications), War on Terror (more terrorism in more places than ever).
Let me know when they declare War on Big-Titted Blondes with Questionable Morals and then put me on the front lines.
Hahhaaahhaaaa
+100
This is a wet dream for the media's and Obama's narrative. Look for all information about the killers being black nationalists/marxist/BLM/whatever to be suppressed while the NRA and the AR15 take the brunt of negative reporting.
Americans didn't buy that bullshit before when kindergartners were being murdered, and we sure as shit ain't buying it now. Trying to sell gun control on the back of a crackpot BLM assassin who wants to kill white people is not the best idea the left has ever had.
I'm not saying it is their "best idea"; but they continually show that it's one of their only ideas.
Just doubt that it's the left's wet dream when the majority voting population was just reminded how much BLM and co. hate them. This is another reminder to buy better locks and more guns, not cave in to lefty demands to lay down our arms.
The NRA invented the AR-15 and the AR-15 invented tragic murder, what have Marxists ever done that's been so bad?
Hmm...Killed 100 million people.
Enslaved 1.5 billion.
Need I go on?
I think your sarcasm detector needs a tune up.
Law enforcement
Based on recent events, I assumed he does not even know what the concepts of "law" and "enforcement" are.
Good point!
As a person that lives in Dallas, I really feel bad for the police officers that were just at this rally to keep the peace. I've had nothing but good experiences with DPD since I moved here a few years back and more than a few DPD officers live in my complex (one of them has a Pomeranian, and yes it's hilarious when he walks it in his uniform and he's a good sport about it). I'd love to find out why these guys did what they did, but it seems pretty likely at this point that they were retribution killings for police shootings elsewhere.
While I'm usually quick to point the finger at police in general, these guys were actually just doing a public service and keeping the peace this time around. Truly tragic. Needless to say, Obama will pontificate and continue to throw gasoline on this burning dumpster fire before anyone knows anything about the 'why'.
As an addendum, the local broadcasts were already fear mongering about the weapons used and bizarrely were talking about 'open carry' rather a lot, as if one could simply walk around downtown Dallas with a high powered rifle. It was truly cringe-worthy to watch the live broadcasts on local news. They were turning to the politics of the situation in between breathless coverage. That being said, one of my good friends that's a firearms expert thought that the type of gunfire he was hearing could have been true burst fire or machinegun fire (I'd normally take his word for it). Who knows if that was the perp or the police though, or if it was just -a lot- of pistol fire. *shrug*
I thought Texas became an open carry state this year?
You have been able to open carry long guns in TX for sometime
Now you have let the cat out of the bag! They will have to go back and revise history so they can show Open Carry of Long Guns lead to this "more tragic" event. Thanks a bunch, Mark.
I think the burst fire was the cops with ARs returning fire-
talk about climbing on top of the still warm bodies
Maybe if Obama had supported the police instead of blaming the cops in his other speechs this may not have happened
This is entirely possible. He brings these terrorists to the White House and tells the world the police acted stupidly before he knows his little buddy screamed curse words at the cop before that cop arrested Skippy.
lifetime full pensions after 20 years & a license to kill ... cops havent had it worse under BO than they have any other prez. give it a rest.
"But Mr. President aren't all guns powerful weapons?"
"Exactly."
I have found over the years that it is best to carry and use ineffective weapons in crisis situations, haven't you? Less is more and all that.
The one suspect the cops had cornered (before they blew him) apparently said he did it because he hates white people and cops, and that he wanted to kill white people, especially white cops.
At least this doesn't appear to be a racially motivated attack.
...blew him UP...
"If they bring a knife, you bring a gun."
~President Barack Obama
It seems that giving officers guns is still a problem. It's curious to me that Barack didn't notice that a gun killed Philando Castile and if we simply disarm policemen this will not happen any more. If only one life were saved it would be worth it.
I was going to try some witty, sarcastic post about BHO's ghoulishness, but, you know, at this point I'm just so exhausted by the son of a bitch that I can't do it. I wish he'd choke on a bone. What a scumbag.
Hey people who live in predominantly black neighborhoods that have a lot of violence,
Time for you mo'fos to speak up because if I were a cop, you would never see my face no matter what the call.
lol How often you think people in the neighborhoods you describe are ever happy to see a cop??
Christ on a cracker, we are going to hear more gun control nonsense
I fear more knee jerk legislation and rights restrictions
Fwiw, I know what it's like to be shot at , and to have a beat partner shot and killed by a criminal thug. It does not justify eroding civil rights to include RKBA and let's remember we are still near a 4 decade low for violent crime and rifles are still used in fewer than 3% of murder last I checked
RE: President Obama Addresses Dallas Shootout, Talks About Access to 'Powerful Weapons'
Says we don't know all the facts, but gun control is going to be an issue.
Never waste a crisis.
What a wonderful opportunity this is to disarm the doubters, the bitter clingers to the US Constitution, and all the sick people who are stupid enough to believe owning guns is a right.
Now is the time to act to take away their guns so that only our benevolent and freedom-loving government police forces, politicians, and bureaucrats that enslave us take that one final step to oppress us completely once and for all. We all know that such kind and merciful benevolent dictators as Adolph Hitler, Joseph Stalin and Pol Pot were wise enough to not only disarm the unwashed masses, but to take advantage of any disaster to do so.
This could be the catastrophe that would finally make sure our police forces everywhere would never have to worry about a possible ugly counter-revolution when our sociopath socialists in power take control.
Won't that be just ducky?
If the prospect of being controlled by a bunch of useful idiots, clueless egomaniacs and power-hungry sadists doesn't make you want to give up your firearms, then nothing will.
Where is Gary Johnson?
Where is the libertarian alternative in this mess - colorblind equality under rule of law, police reform, gun rights, etc?
The primary cause of the killings is psychopathy on the part of the killer, coupled with an endlessly repeated narrative about racism and injustice coming from people like Obama. Gun control will do nothing to stop ex-military from getting powerful guns somehow.
If Obama wants this violence to end, he needs to change his message from one of divisiveness to one of reconciliation. But hell will freeze over before he does that: after all, Obama's career is built on making people hate each other.
"We still don't know all the facts,"
But the police acted stupidly, and if I had son, (pause, fake tears) he would look like Micah.
"Oh wait, what's that Hillary?, Oh yeah I mis remembered"
Thank you and good night.
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the Second Amendment of the Constitution is NOT ABOUT hunting or sporting.
semi-auto,magazine-fed rifles such as the AR-15 and AK-47 are today's modern MILITIA weapons,and thus should be the most protected of firearms under the Second Amendment.
Militiamen were expected to appear for muster bearing arms and ammo similar to and compatible with what the Regular military had in use AT THAT TIME.
Since we "compromised" and restricted ownership of full-auto,true assault rifles,that leaves the semi-auto versions for civilian militia use.
In US v Miller,SCOTUS asked if a short-barreled shotgun was a weapon that a militia would commonly use,implying that arms protected by the 2nd Amendment were arms a militia would use. AR-15's,M-16's and AK-47s would be ordinary militia arms,and "hi-capacity magazines" also would be protected.
it's VERY clear the Founders INTENDED that civilians have "weapons of war",militia arms suitable for militia purposes,that include combat.
black people would not be getting shot and killed if they weren't so angry and irrational. They want to blame "racism",but it's not racists who are killing each other in Chicago.
they keep listening to the Professional Racists like Sharpton,Jackson,who "earn" their living from "racism",so it's in their interests to keep black people angry and irrational over alleged "racism",that keeps the money coming in for them,and gives them power and perks. Those guys don't want "racism" to end,it would make them nobodies,and cut off the money train.
Also,the MEDIA is partly at fault,they never expose the fact that most of these "innocents" shot and killed by police were not actually so innocent. This Castile guy was a CRIP (from his own Facebook page),had a gun in his lap,and was a suspect in the previous night's robbery of a convenience store,which is the real reason their car was stopped.
The same was true for Trayvon Martin,Michael Brown,Eric Garner,etc.,they were all criminals.
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