Trump Coy About Actually Being President, Clinton's FBI Interview Wasn't Sworn In, Veteran Suicide Figures Calculated: P.M. Links

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  So apparently among the things Donald Trump is willing to negotiate is whether he'll actually serve as president if he wins the election.

• In a hearing with lawmakers, FBI Director James Comey said they did not record Hillary Clinton's interview and did not swear her in. This would not prohibit criminal penalties if she were determined to be lying (which is why you never agree to an interview with the FBI without a lawyer present).
• Gary Johnson thinks Clinton's email scandal was a case of bad judgment and not necessarily due to criminal intent.
• A Georgia judge has dropped the charges she filed against a newspaper publisher who filed open records requests to see checks drawn by her office.
• More folks are waking up to the fact that high-speed rail is a costly, terrible idea.
• A study by the Department of Veterans Affairs determined that an average of 20 American military vets commit suicide every day.

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[Fist of Etiquette]

In a hearing with lawmakers, FBI Director James Comey said they did not record Hillary Clinton's interview and did not swear her in.

Well, they did, but they left the transcripts on IRS mail servers.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Hello.

"Gary Johnson thinks Clinton's email scandal was a case of bad judgment and not necessarily due to criminal intent."

The former is just as bad when, you know, you're the freaking PRESIDENT.

[thrakkorzog]

Hey, who among us hasn't woken up after a wild night out, only to find that in their drunken state that they had accidentally setup a private email server in order to avoid oversight? It's a perfectly normal thing that happens all the time. It's just those stuck up Rethugllicans making a big deal about it.

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

Shit, yesterday morning, I woke up in a pool of my own vomit and a blistering headache. I checked my phone only to find pictures of me and my friend mooning the camera while soliciting bribes from the Russian government through a "charitable foundation," all on a server we accidentally set up in our basement that night. Fuck me, what a hangover that was.

[Playa Manhattan.]

You also forgot to lock the front door.

[commoditous]

Pete?

Pete...?

OI, PRICK

[TheZeitgeist]

Woke up a mess.

All I remember was burning buildings and the chorus of many AK's firing at once we all know and love. I was with some guy named 'Chris,' and I thought I was shitfaced, but last I saw of that Chris guy he was all doll-eyed and getting dragged away by a mob. I think he was passed out by then, but whatever. Party on dude.

And apparently I kept blathering about some video that didn't exist, at least that's what my pal Susie told me. Fuck I was hammered that night.

[Brochettaward]

Objection. Law enforcement has no problem punishing me for things I have done after a wild night on the town that I neither recall nor care to.

[R C Dean]

I'm starting to think that the real Trojan candidate in this election isn't Trump undermining the Repubs to pave the way for Hillary, its Johnson undermining the Libertarian Party. I just can't figure out why anyone would go to the trouble, but he certainly isn't acting like he wants to do anything other than damage the Libertarian brand.

[Rich]

Wait. Hillary can't possibly be in bed with *Johnson*!

[End Child Unemployment]

I'm pretty sure she prefers gash

[db]

Johnson/Gash 2020

[Tonio]

Since the major party candidates are tarnishing their own brands, why not libertarians, too?

[HazelMeade]

Apparently Johnson is trying to tarnish our brand with excessive niceness.

[Brett L]

I figured maybe he was trying for ambassador of Llibertopia, but is too high to know that isn't a real country.

[Pope Jimbo]

Well he can be ambassador to Liberland

[Thymirus]

He's an unprincipled moron.

[Pope Jimbo]

Still better than Austin Petersen. I watched him in the debates and would rather sit on a park bench paddling my nuts with a wooden spoon than put up with having to see/hear him ever again.

[Bubba Jones]

Thank God that Cruz and Paul both lost!

[BigT]

"James Comey said they did not record Hillary Clinton's interview and did not swear her i"

Gross incompetence. Why even bother with the 'interview'? On the record or GTFO.

[Playa Manhattan.]

"More folks are waking up to the fact that high-speed rail is a costly, terrible idea.

We have airplanes. It's a step backwards.

[Brett L]

"Hello, airplanes, its railroad calling. You win"

[JW]

It's almost seems like the political class has nothing but contempt for the peasants that elected them.

[Injun, as in from India]

But peaceful Japan has them! Enlightened Europe has them! Even Communist *China* has them!

If everyone has them and we don't, we must have them! Because otherwise, it means we're less advanced or something.

[R C Dean]

American exceptionalism: imitating everyone else as hard as we can.

[Suell]

"All the other cool countries have one, why can't we?"

This is actually something I have hears a number of proggies say.

[Animal]

I get this a lot from proggie acquaintances who know I've worked and lived in Japan. Pointing out that Japan is a country about the size of California, with a population of about 200 million, never phases them.

Because a high-speed rail net in Wyoming just makes too much sense.

[Careless]

with a population of about 200 million

Well, 125

[Slammer]

The people should eschoochoo trains

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Nice

[Fist of Etiquette]

Gary Johnson thinks Clinton's email scandal was a case of bad judgment and not necessarily due to criminal intent.

Shackford, are you going to make us rip on the poor man in another thread?

[Citizen X]

We are but monkeys, dancing to the sound of Shackelford's hurdy-gurdy.

[thrakkorzog]

Ooh, I call cymbal banging monkey. You ever seen one of those things outside of a horror film?

[Citizen X]

My grandparents used to have one when i was a kid. I expect it to show up and murder me any day now.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

That monkey remembers what you did to it.

[Brett L]

Most guys spank a monkey with a head but no brain. And it sure don't have a memory. Otherwise, it woulda dragged me away screaming from some of the places I went back to.

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

Dibs on the shit-flinging monkey!

[Jerryskids]

Anybody call football-fucking monkey yet?

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

All yours. Cigar-smoking monkey and roller-skating monkey are still available, too.

[BigT]

Any porch monkeys available?

[Ska]

BigT is taking it back.

[Sir Digby Chicken Caesar]

+1 "Sheeny Curse"

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

I wanna be the 'benk robbing minkey' from the Pink Panther

[Chipwooder]

Do you a lesance for your minkey?

[Rich]

The 'monkey' with a 'bimb'?

[Rich]

Ficking autocorrect!

[Citizen X]

Gary Johnson thinks Clinton's email scandal was a case of bad judgment and not necessarily due to criminal intent.

"It's just, like, a simple oversight, man. Hey, wanna get some nachos?"

[Playa Manhattan.]

I like beer. I like nachos.

[Slammer]

LA nachos recommendations?

[AlmightyJB]

Is that slang for Latin pootang?

[Slammer]

Pootang? Ewwwww

Chochas would be a good restaurant name

[Chipper Morning Wood]

That is a disgusting typo.

[fish]

Isn't that just anal?

[AlmightyJB]

Well he didn't say fish tacos. fish.

[Playa Manhattan.]

I was just quoting the 38th president of the United States.

I don't know that I've ever eaten nachos outside of my kitchen.

I'll ask around. There has to be a place. Probably near Hollywood.

[GILMORE?]

+1 Gerald-Ford-as-Alternate-Dimension-Homer

[Playa Manhattan.]

I knew the Laist would have something:

http://laist.com/2014/11/12/th.....ngeles.php

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Hey, that's corn chips to you, buddy, unless you can prove you are genetically Mexican.

[Playa Manhattan.]

I'm geographically Mexican.

[Domestic Dissident]

There's nothing more fucking awesome than seeing photos of a young Block Yomomma looking like he's ready to hop on a camel and raid an eighth century caravan on the road to Mecca, seven and a half years into his presidency.

I guess it has officially been deemed safe to now reveal all the secrets the scummy vermin in the media have been hiding from us this whole time. Allah only knows what the hell we'll learn next.

[R C Dean]

He doesn't look like he's going to raid anything. More like he's just been primped and polished for the next catamite auction.

[A Cynic's Guide to Zen]

"I will give you four virgin goats for a weekend at Chuckie Cheese with your son, Mohatmanigga."

[Chipper Morning Wood]

[Searches Google news for goat news]

Hey, those goats indicated with their gaze that they wanted to be deflowered. Science is with me on this.

[Playa Manhattan.]

*TWEET*

Fifteen yard penalty!

[You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)]

What is happening today? It's like everyone's going to 11.

[thrakkorzog]

Meh, a Hindu friend of mine got married,and asked me to part of his wedding party. So I ended up wearing traditional Hindu wedding gear. This is despite the fact that I'm about as Hindu as Billy Graham.

Hey, I'm willing to give Obama shit when he deserves it, but when participating in a wedding, I'm willing to cut the guy some slack on the basis of 'When in Rome...'

[You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)]

Plus, Elaine looked hot in a sari.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Yeh, not seeing the problem here. Whatever. Ok, sure, I *suppose* you can make the charge given how he behaves perhaps he has sympathies but it's a stretch.

It's like someone uncovering old pictures of me with some guys who went on to be mobsters and someone flashing it in my face.

And? Point?

[OneOut]

The pictures mean nothing as far as I'm concerned.

Saying that there is no prettier sound in the world than the morning call to prayer and proclaiming that if anyone bad mouthed Mohammed that he would side with the Muslims leaves something to be desired in a US president as far as I'm concerned.

[Timon 19]

Actually, the morning call is a pretty cool thing to experience - except when it's fucking 5am and you're hung over.

[Careless]

It's awful. And one of the places I stayed in Malaysia had a mosque's loudspeaker pointed right at the damned hotel I was in for some reason

[bacon-magic]

Block Yomomma will never be a thing. There, I said it.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Not with that attitude.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

Your Momma, on the other hand...

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Flock Winston's mama, on the other hand....

[HazelMeade]

I'm sure it's a thing for closet racists morons and Trump voters.

"Lol! Block Yomamma! Get it? It's like a black joke, get it? Watch me indulge in some racial stereotyping!"

[Calidissident]

Have you had a stroke?

[Playa Manhattan.]

"a"?

[Homple]

Is the camel named Clyde?

[The Bearded Hobbit]

+1 Ray Stevens

... Hobbit

[OneOut]

I can't wait for his term to end so the underlings can cash in with "tell alls".

First one to print earns the most dough boys and girls.

[Injun, as in from India]

Donald TrumpAndy Martin Jr./ZUMA Press/NewscomSo apparently among the things Donald Trump is willing to negotiate is whether he'll actually serve as president if he wins the election.

He won't even wait to finish his term to relinquish power!

He will relinquish power before his term begins!

What a man!

[R C Dean]

Hmm. I may have to reconsider Trump.

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

If true, not wanting to serve as president would actually raise my opinion of him. No one who wants that kind of power should be trusted with it.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Yeah, let's hold off our judgment until he actually follows through with this.

[Unicorn Abattoir]

In that case, maybe we can convince him to take Austin Petersen as his VP pick.

[Krabappel]

This doesn't make any fucking sense, and the NYT article is this long drawn out OMG WTF based on one comment Trump made?

[You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)]

So far, that's a more libertarian pitch than Johnson's...

[Playa Manhattan.]

"A Georgia judge has dropped the charges she filed against a newspaper publisher"

I was unaware that judges could file charges other than contempt.

[Injun, as in from India]

In this modern era, you can file charges of hurt feelings.

[You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)]

The day after my birthday is not my birthday, mom.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

I love that song.

[Fist of Etiquette]

She might be throwing that prosecutor-slash-former clerk under a bus.

[Fist of Etiquette]

A Georgia judge has dropped the charges she filed against a newspaper publisher who filed open records requests to see checks drawn by her office.

So, totally no need to look into this any further.

[Tonio]

But they still had to submit to pre-trial services interview and possibly drug testing. Can't undo that. Those records will not be erased. "The process is the punishment."

[JW]

So apparently among the things Donald Trump is willing to negotiate is whether he'll actually serve as president if he wins the election.

My opening offer is that he gets Biden.

[John]

Read the Article. It is the NY Times saying "Trump is competitive and he just might want to win but then get bored with being President". Really, that is all it says.

[The Other Kevin]

Exactly. Once he fixes everything that's wrong with America, he's going to need to find another challenge, being such a high achiever. You can't expect a guy like him to be satisfied by playing golf for 3 1/2 years.

[John]

Doubtful. I am starting to think the email thing has them spooked. It is starting to dawn on them he might win.

[End Child Unemployment]

What do you mean? I have it on good facebook comment authority that the FBI not recommending prosecution proves she is totally innocent, which is somehow totally different from Zimmerman's acquittal proving RACISM.

[John]

A lot of people seem to want that to be true. That doesn't mean it is.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

Gets Biden... how?

Sexually?

For comedic relief?

As insurance against assassination attempts?

[JW]

Yes.

[John]

Gary Johnson thinks Clinton's email scandal was a case of bad judgment and not necessarily due to criminal intent.

I don't want to hear any more nonsense about Johnson being an honorable alternative. Sorry, I don't care how much he loves pot and hates the NSA, he clearly doesn't give a shit about the rule of law. And that makes him a shit weasel.

[JW]

I don't really disagree with Johnson here.

I don't think that Hilary *intended* to break the law. She just didn't give a shit whether she did or not.

[AlmightyJB]

Pretty much

[John]

She set up her own server to avoid open records laws. She most certainly intended to break the law.

[Rich]

"Separate investigation. We may get around to it in due process -- uh, due *time*."

[Brett L]

Yes, I get a lot of thoughtful looks when I say things like, "whatever else happened, FOIA is dead at the Federal level." Nobody has an answer to that.

[Rich]

FOIA love

[A Cynic's Guide to Zen]

Semantics at its finest.

This "negligence" concept must be hard for people.

[Rich]

Plus "mens rea" can't apply for The First Female President?.

[A Cynic's Guide to Zen]

Mens

Oh I get it. Mens like Men.

[Rich]

No -- like *menstruation*.

Must I explain *everything*?

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

That hole dried up a lo-o-o-o-ng time ago.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Does that make Huma a modern Ponce de Leon?

[waffles]

This is disgusting. You're all disgusting. I need a shower.

[Rich]

See? Bobarian gets it.

[John]

How do you negligently build your own server?

[Lee Genes]

You say "oops" right after signing the SLA?

[Rich]

LOL

[Unicorn Abattoir]

Allow me to explain:

Anything Hillary does - not negligence.

Letting your kid play outside in a fenced yard - totally negligent.

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

Look, Hillary doesn't know anything about computers. Someone probably just asked her on her first day at State how she wanted to go about her email system and a guy from IT proposed doing this and so she just went along with it. It's not like government servers are actually secure anyway. This was probably safer because so few people knew about it. She was actually trying to protect that classified information. And anyway, there wasn't any on there. That's just rightwing speculation. /actual justification I've received about this

[Rich]

This was probably safer because so few people knew about it.

Stop giving them ideas!

[Artifex]

Maybe the IT guy was one of Hillary's political appointees. It's not her fault she was poorly advised, the guy knew nothing about IT.

[Chipwooder]

Laws are immaterial to people like her. She's going to do whatever she wants, and you peons are just going to have to deal with it.

[Homple]

You ain't seen nuthin' yet. Wait until she has a pen, a phone, two or three Supreme Court justices, a shedload of lower federal judges and the head of every federal agency at her beck and call.

You'll look back on the days when Trump was your bogeyman as a sort of golden age.

[Fist of Etiquette]

A study by the Department of Veterans Affairs determined that an average of 20 American military vets commit suicide every day.

And wonders why some federal agency doesn't get on that.

[A Cynic's Guide to Zen]

There's that male privilege again. Or, did the numbers go up when the ban on persons with assumptive disorders were allowed to openly serve, given their suicide rate?

[Playa Manhattan.]

See: gun violence restraining orders.

[Ted S.]

There are that many suicides in America?

[Jerryskids]

I thought it sounded a little off that some 40% of suicides must be vets if that number is correct, but then I realized it might be the same 20 vets every day.

[Bubba Jones]

Aren't there about 10k suicides per year? That is what drives up the gun death numbers.

[Crusty Juggler]

How Wall Street Bro Talk Keeps Women Down

The first paragraph:

WHEN I was a 27-year-old bond trader at Bank of America, I went to dinner with a managing director and a high-profile client at a Brazilian all-you-can-eat meat restaurant in Manhattan. The waitress came by to see if we wanted another round of drinks. When she was out of earshot, the client said, "I'd like to bend her over the table, give her some meat." They laughed. I forced a smile. On the way home, I fumed. I was troubled by the comment, and disgusted by the man who said it. But I was angry with myself. Why hadn't I said anything?

[Crusty Juggler]

In my experience, the misogyny often comes from bosses; denigrating women is the mechanism through which they connect with their subordinates. At one of the firms I worked for, a senior executive asked me, "Did you get laid last night?" When I responded no, he said: "Too bad. When I was your age, it was like shooting fish in a barrel." I faked a smile ? I felt that I had to.

But a few years after I left Wall Street, when my wife was pregnant with our first child, and we learned that it was going to be a girl, I burst into tears. My daughter would soon enter a world not just of unequal pay and unequal opportunity, but one in which almost 20 percent of women are raped, and a quarter of girls are sexually abused.

[Brett L]

I'd be sad and bitter too, since the child obviously isn't his.

[AlmightyJB]

Lo. I was going to say the same thing. What a pussy.

[Chipwooder]

Yup. My daughter is 6 and she's much tougher than this nancy boy.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

He will be transitioning soon.

[Microaggressor]

He Xir will be transitioning soon.

Check your fucking privilege

[Chipper Morning Wood]

He will be transitioning soon.

[Clich? Bandit]

I read all that as it was a woman, and honestly, even I would make a comment about meat and waitresses in mixed company. But then it turns out it was a dude...wow.

[Clich? Bandit]

uhh would is SUPPOSED to say wouldn't

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

So what you're trying to say is that you 'would' until found out it was a dude.

Homophobe!

[Clich? Bandit]

At this point I haven't had enough scotch to be an authority on what I am trying to say.

[Sir Digby Chicken Caesar]

I read all that as it was a woman

Same here, CB. I can't even...

[B.P.]

I thought the same thing: Who are these inappropriate jackasses this woman is associating with? Oh, it's a guy.

[Broswater]

Holy crap, I read that as if it was a woman too, the fact that it's a dude only makes it worst. Finance has always been a competitive, aggressive world. Nobody taking offense in some rude comments would survive long there.

Back when I was a stockbroker, it actually was the females that insisted we ended our nights out at the strip club. Fun times. That would have clearly triggered the snowflake.

[Playa Manhattan.]

"But a few years after I left Wall Street, when my wife was pregnant with our first child,"

Oh, for christ sake. At least his daughter will have bigger balls than he does.

[You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)]

It's taken for granted that these people always exaggerate when telling these stories, right? Like, the guy eventually realized that he was frightened for his daughter's prospects; he didn't actually break down to tears shortly after learning her sex, right?

[Playa Manhattan.]

I'm going with outright fabrication.

[You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)]

Well yes, I'm using exaggeration as the gentlemanly term for fabrication.

[Playa Manhattan.]

Gentleman? I let you know as soon as I see one.

[Lee Genes]

Oh good lord. Stop being a pussy and teach her to be an individualist with some self-respect, you know, the opposite of you.

[Crusty Juggler]

Then he could not signal-whine and receive twitter adoration.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Who is this cuckold betamale?

Did I say it right?

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Hey, let's be respectful. Cockolds fulfill an important biological function. They provide biological care so the alpha males can be free to impregnate other females and pass on superior male genetics to the next generation.

[JaimeRoberto]

Why are those comments considered misogynistic? Do they indicate a hatred for women, or are they just crass and crude?

[The Fusionist]

I'll take that one.

Crass and crude.

It would be crass and crude for a woman executive (or a male executive) to make a similar remark about a waiter.

But in a world where everything is offensive, including the phrase "on the other hand," then nothing is offensive.

[Akira]

People are really naive if they think that only men make lewd comments. I worked in an auto parts plant for 8? years, and the women were always saying the filthiest stuff imaginable, often straight to man's face. They'd seriously put the men to shame in the pervert department. They were constantly gabbing about their sex lives, what kind of new dildoes they bought, how good it felt when their boyfriend gave them a rimjob last night, etc.

Hell, just today, I took my shirt off while jogging (because it was 87? with horrid humidity) and some girls drove by and yelled, "look at that booty!" Does this mean I can write some whiney op-ed about how men are constant victims of systematic gender oppression? Can I too blame all my shortcomings on this horrible instance of sexual aggression?

[Playa Manhattan.]

Bank of America:

Where all the heavy hitting bond traders go.

[GILMORE?]

I don't really know fuck all about bond trading but for some odd reason a lot of the "I once spent a few years on Wall St and OMG are they all assholes"-writers? all seem to have worked on bond-desks.

I suspect its like the kindergarden of the trading world. there's a lot less complexity in how quarterly data, regular news items, affect price action. fewer metrics to worry about, fewer derivative mechanisms.

[Bubba Jones]

I dunno. I hear some crazy stories out of Enron and that was some complex sht.

[GILMORE?]

Enron traded commodity contracts.

The things they became famous for were wholesale-electricity-delivery contracts for municipalities (mainly in California).

a brief =

Conceptualized by the company's European Gas Trading team, it was the first web-based transaction system that allowed buyers and sellers to buy, sell, and trade commodity products globally. It allowed users to do business only with Enron. The site allowed Enron to transact with participants in the global energy markets. The main commodities offered on EnronOnline were natural gas and electricity, although there were 500 other products including credit derivatives, bankruptcy swaps, pulp, gas, plastics, paper, steel, metals, freight, and TV commercial time. At its maximum, more than $6 billion worth of commodities were transacted by means of EnronOnline every day.

The games they played with the wholesale electricity markets are outlined here

None of that has anything to do with bonds.

That said, there can be plenty of complex trading strategies in bond markets, and a wide variety of bond-related products that could be exceptions to my point - but in general, the bulk are plain-vanilla products, less-volatile markets, and comparatively-boring strategies compared to equities, IMO

[Greg Loves His Woodchipper]

I would say that generally, everywhere that I worked FX was considered the "kindergarten" desk.

[A Cynic's Guide to Zen]

To be sexually appealing is to be denigrated.

Make sure to carry your safety burqas in case someone expresses sexual interest in a private setting.

Take hammer and apply liberally to affected area

[JW]

Why hadn't I said anything?

Because you're a beta who likes money and making cowardly and meaningless stands of righteousness when you have nothing to lose?

[Heroic Mulatto]

Well, that's the thing. If he were a true gentleman, he would have called the man a cad and threw his drink in the man's face. If he truly believed in chivalry, he would have refused to do business with the client and placed his honor before his job.

[Pat (PM)]

But I was angry with myself. Why hadn't I said anything?

In an amusing bit of irony, the very thing that caused you to be offended is the same reason you didn't speak up: you're a pussy.

[Playa Manhattan.]

So obviously not true.

If it were real, the boss would have said something like "I'd like to bend her over the table, give her some linguica".

At least tie in the Brazilian BBQ to the story somehow.

[Lee Genes]

Wall Street doesn't even measure up to the shenanigans of the electronics industry. Nokia sent some inspectors to our plant in Costa Rica. They skipped the plant inspection, went straight to the titty bars, ran up a several thousand dollar tab on hookers and sent it to us.

[Brett L]

Huh. I had myself a pretty good time on 500 colones once. I think that was $100 back then. I think I could have rented a hell of a party for several thousand.

[Playa Manhattan.]

Last time I ever set foot in a strip club was 1996, San Jose, Costa Rica.

[Brett L]

I'll bet he leaves out where his boss left a 30% tip because she was hot.

[Playa Manhattan.]

If it was Fogo de Chao, probably not. My waiter was an old dude.

[Playa Manhattan.]

And he didn't complain when I said I wanted to give him some meat.

[bacon-magic]

Always tip your waiter/waitress/waitever.

[Playa Manhattan.]

I offered him the tip.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

No, he'll write another article about that, complaining about beauty privilege.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Don't go to the comments. Here are the first two:

"S Washington DC 2 hours ago

Thank you for your honesty. I know you'll get comments about this being a rareified and maybe ethically questionable workplace anyway, but the point - and the problem - is that this kind of treatment of women happens everywhere. When people shrug at the potential significance of having a female President, it's articles like this that should remind us just how major a leap that would be, given the blatant misogyny and objectification around us. I have daughters too - please keep up the good work in shining light on these dark patterns and helping make things a bit better."

"NYT Pick
Elizabeth Barclay Florida 2 hours ago

Too little, too late. An infuriating piece. Men know their behavior is wrong and do it anyway; women suffer. Why would you expect this to change just because you now have a daughter and the consequences of men's actions are suddenly real to you?"

[Lee Genes]

Why would you expect this to change just because you now have a daughter and the consequences of men's actions are suddenly real to you?

What were the consequences of that incident exactly?

[IndyEleven]

She was objectified and misogynized. Sensing her innate female weakness, her employer reduced her pay to 78% of her male peers and also failed to give her paid day care. Or something.

[Rufus The Monocled]

I worked in financial services for a decade. Yeh, sure there were some asshole men but there were women who were just fine with it all too; often engaging in wild behavior and it wasn't just for the promotions - hint, hint.

Workplaces are petry dishes containing plenty or amoral people. It is what it is.

[Pay up, Palin's Buttplug!]

Workplaces are petry dishes containing plenty or amoral people. It is what it is.

When I was a co-op working for a major computer company, I was surprised at how much like high school things were? the flirtation, the dating, the gossip (usually who liked whom and who was dating/sleeping with whom), the sexual talk (one female co-op was nicknamed "Pearl Necklace" for the size of her breasts), etc.

It go so bad at one point, all the female co-ops were moved to another floor away from the male co-ops.

[Rich]

This would not prohibit criminal penalties if she were determined to be lying

Whew! At least there's *some* hope!

[IceTrey]

Bad judgement in handling classified material is a crime.

[OneOut]

Maybe for you it is.

[colorblindkid]

They didn't make any record of the interview? Are you fucking kidding me?

[AlmightyJB]

I know, I'm totally shocked as well

[Brett L]

We've talked about this. The FBI DID make a record of the interview. An agent took notes. They did not make a recording of the interview, because the FBI doesn't like defendants having tape proving exactly what was said.

[The Bearded Hobbit]

Like the defendants would ever have access to that tape? You must not have had much interaction with the Feds.

... Hobbit

[Brett L]

See. I'm the other way. My condition is that I get to make a recording, and they get to keep a copy. Or they can talk to my lawyer. I have a due process right to record every interaction with them.

[Brett L]

Although it appears that Mr. Holder did, for a brief period during his term, change the policy one can only assume that Mr. Comey changed it back the minute the door hit Holder's ass.

[Voros McCracken]

I would assume this was a condition of acquiescing to the interview in the first place.

[Krabappel]

Hillary should watch more game of thrones and just plant wildfire under the FBI building.

[You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)]

That is also a more libertarian pitch than Johnson's.

[Injun, as in from India]

Here's the interview transcript:

Comey: Hey Hill, how's it going?
Hillary: Awesome, James. How're you?
Comey: I thought the whole thing at the airport would blow everything up, but Loretta handled it well.
Hillary: (giggles) Yeah, grandkids! Golf! Brexit! She's great at spinning yarn.
Comey: Yeah. There was no need for her to get married. She would've made a great spinster.
Hillary: Alright. Ciao. End of interview.

[Rich]

Except Comey was not present at the interview.

[Tonio]

Yeah, in any other high profile criminal investigation they would have recorded that shit. Why, it's almost as if they weren't really trying...

[robc]

Actually, FBI rarely records.

[thrakkorzog]

Nope, actually the FBI doesn't record interviews. They just take notes. It makes it much easier to prosecute people for lying to the FBI when the FBI can't prove the suspect did anything else wrong. Ask Martha Stewart.

[Juice]

Wait a fucking minute. Martha Stewart went to prison for lying and they didn't even have a record of her lying? Wow.

[DenverJ]

According to John, and I have no reason to doubt him, SOP is that the agent takes notes. Those notes are then entered into the record. If that record proves incorrect, then it means you were lying. He and another guy explained it this morning.

[Cdr Lytton]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ha.....11e01c17f0

[Fist of Etiquette]

More folks are waking up to the fact that high-speed rail is a costly, terrible idea.

Train's already left the station, dipshits.

[Rich]

A study by the Department of Veterans Affairs determined that an average of 20 American military vets commit suicide every day.

When will America *do* something about its gun violence epidemic?

Or is it the *opioid* epidemic?

Whatever. Do *something* -- for the vets!

[Crusty Juggler]

Something like...send more troops to the Middle East? That helps, right?

[Rich]

Better over there than over here.

*** wink-wink-nudge-nudge ***

[A Cynic's Guide to Zen]

Or better yet, keep troops in the middle east. Establish a DMZ. Breed with the locals.

Did wonders for South Korea.

[DenverJ]

Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

I wonder if the DVA considers dying while waiting for VA treatment as suicide?

"If they were serious about surviving, they'd have went and seen a real doctor!"

[Crusty Juggler]

Britney Spears, J.Lo & More Release 'Hands' for Orlando: Why Are Charity Singles Always So Bad?

"Hands," which also features Kacey Musgrave, Jason Derulo, Selena Gomez, Adam Lambert, Gwen Stefani, Meghan Trainor, Troye Sivan, and RuPaul, is released by GLAAD and its proceeds will benefit victims of the Pulse nightclub massacre, Equality Florida Pulse Victims Fund, and the GLBT Community Center of Central Florida.

[Slammer]

Some are good

[Ted S.]

We're sending our love down the well.

[Playa Manhattan.]

Because Britney Spears and J Lo?

[Tonio]

OhNoSheTwint via Derpbook:

Imagine if powerful white men were as vocally outraged about an innocent black person being shot as they are about improper use of email.

Totally bass-ackwards: These police shootings are happening without consequence precisely because people like OhNoSheTwint don't care about crimes committed by government officials at the highest level. If there were consequences at the top, then the lower-level bureaucrats would live in fear of violating the law. BUT, since there are no consequences at the top, the lower level is just seeing what they can get away with.

[Slammer]

'xactly. At this point laws are practically meaningless

[JW]

A post floated to the top on FB today, that a relative responded to.

"Where are all the libertarians, conservatives? Why are they silent?"

Fuck you, you indolent twat. It's not like we've been warning you for years or anything. We're just totes over here, not giving a shit about the abuses of the state.

[AddictionMyth]

Johnson is right - Clinton's email server was bad judgment and so what. It's such a stupid controversy. The FBI knew about the server for years and did nothing. They need to indict themselves for gross negligence. If Johnson just keeps taking the high road he'll do fine.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Agreed.

[kbolino]

Apparently, committing a crime is a-okay as long as you have the right accomplices.

Who knew?

[kbolino]

When did the FBI get put in charge of IT security for every agency the Federal government?

[Arizona_Guy]

Clinton's new campaign song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dB_ubVAnGw

[Tonio]

Mother Jones (the magazine) belatedly discovers what we've been saying all along about broken windows policing:

Police Shootings Won't Stop Unless We Also Stop Shaking Down Black People

This article was from last Fall, but showed up on my derpbook feed today. So, they've had the better part of a year and this is the only thing we've heard from the left about this. Well-done, progs.

[Juvenile Bluster]

They always come so close to the point but fail to completely get it.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Mother Jones - along with The Daily Beast - sometimes gets it right. They don't enrage me like other bull shit prog sites.

On economics though...oof.

[Rufus The Monocled]

They do good stuff on the investigative side from time to time too.

[lafe.long]

#DelrawnSmall: Family of Brooklyn Man Allegedly Shot by Off-Duty Police Officer Demands Charges

Small's family demanded charges be brought against Wayne Isaacs after he allegedly shot Small Sunday around midnight. A store owner said Small was punching Isaacs, news outlets say.

[Brett L]

Honestly, Florida's concealed carry laws are the only thing that keeps me from daily road rage incidents down here. That and I'm afraid that I'm going to jump out of my car to find out that I'm trying to pull some 80 year old woman out of her car. Then what do I do? "Excuse me ma'am, could you stop tailgating me?"

[DenverJ]

I noticed my road rage is conversely related to the size of the vehicle I am driving: little car, lots of rage. But truck, much less, because I'm not as afraid that the idiot tailgating me, cutting off, etc, is actually going to kill me.

[Riven]

I wandered away from the links yesterday, but didn't want to leave y'all hanging.

This pixie warrior goddess goes by Samantha Wright. This gif is several years old, so I'm honestly not sure what she's got going on nowadays.

[AlmightyJB]

Would

[Pat (PM)]

This gif is several years old, so I'm honestly not sure what she's got going on nowadays.

Now you know.

[Riven]

Not sure I want to look. I like the way I remember her...

[Crusty Juggler]

She looks pretty good in that photo, but there is not much bod, which makes me sad.

[Agent Cooper]

You're just like Bank of America.

[IndyEleven]

The pic doesn't take away much, but avoid the text at all costs.

[Cyto]

The whole thing reeks of stupid and is devoid of reality.

For those who wisely heeded IndyEleven's admonition, she's complaining that she gets comments and memes shared about her being attractive. And there's no way a male athlete would ever have to suffer such indignities.

Like Tom Brady. He's just a quarterback and nobody ever remarks on his appearance. Or Aaron Rodgers. Or Tony Romo. Or Rafael Nadal. Or Chris Paul. Or Tony Parker. Or Rick Fox. Or Andre Agassi. Or David Beckham. Or Andy Roddick. Or Christiano Ronaldo. Or pretty much every olympic swimmer, ever.

I could go on, but my "top of the head" references are starting to show that I'm getting a little long in the tooth. Point made though...

[Agent Cooper]

What if she *literally* is the cutest weightlifter, though?

[Bubba Jones]

Dumb ass calls herself "pixie" and then complains about being called cute?

[Playa Manhattan.]

That really doesn't do anything for my penis.

[End Child Unemployment]

I would buy her a nice seafood dinner and actually call her afterwards.

[You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)]

I'm bookmarking that Trump meeting post.

They're cracking, dude.

[Ted S.]

Who's "they"?

[You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)]

Them.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Featuring Van Morrison?

[John]

The gnomes who live under his bed.

[Playa Manhattan.]

Those guys.

[John]

I hate those guys.

[rts]

Major League Baseball.

[DenverJ]

Hitler?

[Mazakon]

Wall Street Hot Shots Fired After Destroying Rented $20M Home

Brett Barna of Moore Capital Managment, who trashed a $20 million Bridgehampton home he rented from Airbnb last weekend, has been fired.

The damage was incurred during what was called a "Wolf of Wall Street"-style party that was "awash with Champagne, scores of bikini-clad women and costumed gun-toting midgets."

[Lee Genes]

In other news, Crusty has a lot more free time on his hands these days.

[Brett L]

I mean, is the home worth $20M or the property?

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

Or was that just the rent?

[Playa Manhattan.]

"....and that the party "was like 'Jersey Shore' meets a frat party."

That is a perfect description. Fat, ugly people and a pizza floating in the pool. So not worth it. What an idiot.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

the party "was like 'Jersey Shore' meets a frat party."

Couldn't you just go to the Jersey Shore?

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

So apparently among the things Donald Trump is willing to negotiate is whether he'll actually serve as president if he wins the election.

AND

Gary Johnson thinks Clinton's email scandal was a case of bad judgment and not necessarily due to criminal intent.

Apparently, no one is planning to run against Hillary this election cycle.

A plague on all your houses.

[AddictionMyth]

Wrong. Johnson has far better issues to fight with Clinton about . He's just not squandering his credibility on nonsense controversies. Here are some valid issues: war, taxes, entitlements... I could go on.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

He needs to build some credibility first.

[kbolino]

Controversy: what a weasel calls something that's cut-and-dried because his position depends on him not accepting the truth

[Injun, as in from India]

At this point, I'm seriously thinking of doing a write-in for Pedro from Napoleon Dynamite.

It will be prank worthy of our sorry state of affairs.

[rts]

Human Rights Tribunals, the gift that keeps on giving:

Human rights complaint launched against All-Native basketball tournament committee

The question of Josiah Wilson's Indigenous identity is at the centre of a human rights case launched against an All-Native sports event in northwestern B.C. after he was banned from participating earlier this year.

Josiah was banned from the annual basketball tournament in Prince Rupert, B.C., in February for not having at least 1/8th First Nations ancestry or "blood quantum." The 20-year-old is of Haitian descent and was adopted as an infant by a Heiltsuk First Nations father and a white mother.

[Ted S.]

So he's 1th nation, but not black.

Or maybe he's a white Hispanic.

[rts]

While I fully support the right of tournament directors to set whatever criteria they wish for participation (still looking forward to the Must-Use-Steroid Olympics becoming reality myself), I'd just like to say: "blood quantum"? Really?

[Rufus The Monocled]

My new motto in life is "EVERYONE'S FULL OF SHIT (EFS)" And I'm sticking to it.

[Uncle Jay]

RE: So apparently among the things Donald Trump is willing to negotiate is whether he'll actually serve as president if he wins the election.

Yeah, right.
That's why he ran for president in the first place.

[rts]

Early data shows foreign nationals buying 5% of Metro Vancouver homes sold

Well... *now* whom can we blame, say the nativists.

[Brett L]

Its the Japanese menace all over again. The Chinese will buy their homes for dollars and sell them for pennies.

[Juice]

Oh no! Not 5%!

[Crusty Juggler]

Billionaire sex offender Epstein once claimed he co-founded Clinton Foundation

The 23-page letter, written by high-powered lawyers Alan Dershowitz and Gerald Lefcourt, was apparently part of an ultimately successful bid to negotiate a plea deal before Epstein could be tried for using underage girls in a sex ring based in Palm Beach, Fla., and his private island estate on the 72-acre Virgin Islands home dubbed "Orgy Island." Epstein spent 13 months in prison and home detention after agreeing to a plea deal in which he admitted to soliciting an underage girl for prostitution.

"Mr. Epstein was part of the original group that conceived the Clinton Global Initiative, which is described as a project 'bringing together a community of global leaders to devise and implement innovative solutions to some of the world's most pressing challenges," read the July 2007 letter to the U.S. Attorney's office in the Southern District of Florida. "Focuses of this initiative include poverty, climate change, global health, and religious and ethnic conflicts.

Hey Trump campaign, keep being retarded so that this stays out of the headlines.

[Lee Genes]

implement innovative solutions to some of the world's most pressing challenges

i.e.

"How are us old dudes going to score with young girls?"

[John]

Yeah Crusty, the media so be covering that if not for Trump distracting them. I mean, they made such a big deal about Bill Clinton making all of those visits to the guy's sex slave island. Right?

[ant1sthenes]

I don't think Trump wants to make a big deal out of underage whore island, if you know what I mean.

[Uncle Jay]

RE: In a hearing with lawmakers, FBI Director James Comey said they did not record Hillary Clinton's interview and did not swear her in. This would not prohibit criminal penalties if she were determined to be lying (which is why you never agree to an interview with the FBI without a lawyer present).

Smart move by Heil Hitlary.
She was smart enough not to be recorded.
At least she learned from Comrade Nixon's mistake.

[DOOMco]

OT. Do the words boot and bonnet relate to the location or the engine? My girlfriend couldn't think of the word trunk, and I jumped in with boot. Then I thought about a VW beetle, and realized you couldn't store things in the boot. Or could you?

[Pat (PM)]

The words boot and bonnet are meaningless unless you are referring to shoes or hats, because this is America.

[Pat (PM)]

But seriously...

[DOOMco]

So rear engined cars do have bonnets in the back. Hm.

[Thymirus]

Younger enthusiasts at my local car club in England (18 to 25, say) have started using "hood" to the extent that you could now consider it part of their general vocabulary. I'm guessing video games and movies like the F&F franchise are largely responsible.

[DOOMco]

Dumb. I like boot and bonnet.

[lafe.long]

Fresno, California: Video Shows Police Officers Fatally Shooting 19-Year-Old Man in Area

The Fresno Bee released cellphone video of police shooting Dylan Noble. The clip shows two of the four times Noble was shot. Officials have not released body camera video from the June 25 incident.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

White guy... nothing to see, here, move along.

[Uncle Jay]

RE: Gary Johnson thinks Clinton's email scandal was a case of bad judgment and not necessarily due to criminal intent.

Mr. Johnson is correct in his analysis.
Heil Hitlary would never commit a criminal deed.
History has shown that many times over.

[Sevo]

"In a hearing with lawmakers, FBI Director James Comey said they did not record Hillary Clinton's interview and did not swear her in."

Also:
"No Double Standard in Clinton Probe, FBI Director Says"
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics.....n-40397463

1) He practiced quite a bit to be able to say this without collapsing in laughter.
2) He's right; there are many standards, not just two.
I'm leaning toward the latter.

[Rich]

Did you catch the part where he said -- I am not making this up -- indicting her *would* be a double standard?

[thrakkorzog]

I almost wanted throw something at the screen when Comey started claiming that federal prosecutors have to worry about mens rea.

[The Late P Brooks]

So apparently among the things Donald Trump is willing to negotiate is whether he'll actually serve as president if he wins the election.

Funny you should say that. I have been tinkering with a theory that Trump is basically like some bored guy at an auction who starts bidding on something shiny he doesn't really even have a use for, just because it's ridiculously cheap, and then keeps on bidding because he doesn't want some other jerk to end up with it. At the end of the auction, he ends up dragging home some piece of junk he never wanted in the first place.

[John]

In some ways. I think he just got pissed off and decided to run for fun. He never expected to win. And I don't see why that is a bad thing. The last three Presidents spent their lives trying to get the job. How did that work out?

[Thymirus]

Honest to God, John: I fucking hate Clinton, and I fucking hate Trump. With equal fervor, I hate quasi-liberal retards who resort to sad, disingenuous bullshit to justify praising and/or supporting Hillary on some position or other, especially ones who'll rail at Trump for similar misbehavior. I've got absolutely no patience for the everybody-is-identically-awful know-nothings and their anarchist flags.

But why are you so intent on rooting for Trump?

[John]

I like the guy. I love it that he trolls the media. I think he absolutely is right in attacking the bullshit PC culture. I think he is the only person willing to tell the truth that while open border and cheap shit from China is great for the elites it totally fucks a lot of other people. That point needs to be made. Our entire political and media class is based on the absolute conviction that it is the rest of the country's job to suffer for their benefit. Everything they do is nothing but one giant rationalization to get what they want. And I am tired of it.

I also am tired of the cult of the politician and the journalist. Politicians and journalsits who cover them are the most pig ignorant craven scum on earth. Yeah, a real estate hustler could come in and do the job pulling things out of his ass and do a better job running the government than they do. I want to see that real estate hustler elected President and have it turn out to be no worse and likely a little better than it was when those ass clowns were running things. That needs to happen.

[robc]

The elites arent the ones shopping at Wal-Mart.

Cheap shit from China is great for the poor and middle class.

[John]

No. The elites are the ones importing the cheap shit to sell at Wall Mart and their various hangers on.

[commoditous]

That's right, John, let's stick it to the Waltons and their coterie by reducing the standard of living for the vast majority of the country. And, presumably, doing so in such a way that leaves intact the entire corporate infrastructure run by the "elites," merely forcing them to raise prices in tandem with the mom-and-pop boutiques.

[The Last American Hero]

Plus, he has a dick.

This is important since President's without dicks will get much less media criticism and scrutiny because history or something.

[John]

Lastly, I am tired of the cultural power of the media and the political class. Fuck them. Who are those ignorant buffoons to tell me who can and cannot be President. They need to be humiliated. I hope Trump wins and turns the White House into a casino resort. Makes a mockery of their fucking imperialistic (and I mean that in the literal sense of the word) playground they have built for themselves in Washington.

The only objections I ever see to Trump amount to nothing but appeals to authority and social signaling in hopes of the speaker being associated with the class of worthless scum known as Washington. I don't want any part of that. Fuck them. Let the real estate hustler have a shot.

[commoditous]

Or noting his unreliability and inconsistency and, if nothing else, the fact that he is fundamentally unserious about running his campaign and is doing little to overcome his otherwise unbridgeable deficit to Hillary.

[Clich? Bandit]

My tinfoil theory is now two ply. I think he really did start running as a favor tot he Clintons.

[John]

No. That assumes that he thought he could win. And I don't think he did.

[Clich? Bandit]

No it doesn't. Scenario I have thought possible since the beginning:
Clinton asks Trump to run.
Trump says why?
Clinton responds "think of what we can do for you by helping us distract repubs."
Trump runs.
Trump gets INSANE reception from a bunch of disaffecteds
Trump gets cocky
Trump ACTUALLY wins primary battle
Trump may have gone too far and now Clintons pissed.
Trump either wins election, imprisons/murders Clintons to save self OR
Trump makes graceful exit leaving Shillary an easy victory and having smoothed over any unpleasantness.

Otherwise, Trump loses and gets imprisoned/murdered by Clintons for his bad behavior.

I have never once thought he was a republican/conservative and never once thought he was serious about helping the republican party in any way. Only republicans are that stupid.

[John]

That is just all nonsense. And Trump isn't in any legal jeopardy. And he wasn't important enough before this for the Clintons to care.

What Trump figured out was that most of the country doesn't like Republicans and can't stand conservatives. So the more Republicans and conservatives claimed he wasn't really one of them, the more popular he got.

[Clich? Bandit]

Well, it aint ALL nonsense:

Clinton asks Trump to run.
Trump runs.
Trump gets INSANE reception from a bunch of disaffecteds
Trump gets cocky
Trump ACTUALLY wins primary battle

All that really happened.

[John]

Clinton never asked Trump to run. Clinton never cared about Trump.

[Clich? Bandit]

Bill called the Donald just before he made his announcement. The Donald's team even confirms this.

[SIV]

^THIS^

[ant1sthenes]

"That is just all nonsense."

Not really. You know how there's always that one dumbass Republican who says something stupid about rape and the media gives it 24-7 play to ensure that women always vote for the D? The Clintons sent Trump out to be that guy, to convince the swing vote that Republicans are horrible racists, sexists, xenophobes, etc., and to tear down the conventional competition for as long as he can stay in the race.

The problem is that so many people have gotten so fucking sick of that song and dance that his deliberate attempts to say things that democrats think are horrible instead came across as giving zero fucks about what sjw democrats think, which was a winning move. He accidentally made himself the spokesperson for a massive bloc of people that feel as completely disenfranchised by both parties as libertarians, albeit for different reasons.

[Episteme]

Maybe this ends in a Trump/Clinton murder-suicide?

[Clich? Bandit]

WAKE UP! Whew, you having quite the fantasy dream there.

[OneOut]

*thought bubble appears above my head with dream sequence begining*

[Hyp's Brexit Butthurt Lotion]

I think the Clintons may be scared of Trump. Here's a guy who has enough connections and gangster experience himself to scare them off from trying to off him. He's probably doing his latest master of the deal and it goes something like:

'Look at the polls, Willy, I can beat your old lady. I'm gonna need at least 50% of that Clinton Foundation and Manhattan Island after she wins. And if you put a hit on me, you're gonna get one on you too old buddie, they're gonna cut your wee wee off, what do you say?' Deal and I wear a Nazi outfit and call Mother Teresa a cunt during the first debate.'

Nothing would surprise me with these people.

[Bubba Jones]

Epic

[commoditous]

You don't even need to tack on the tinfoil hat bullets at the end. He wins the primary, does nothing substantive toward the general, continues to alienate curious and even potentially sympathetic voters, and vitiates any chance he might have held against Hill. Trump blocks any serious competition from the right, Hillary easily takes the White House, and the GOP is hugely damaged.

[thrakkorzog]

I doubt that Trump ran as a favor to the Clintons in order to deliberately lose. Trump has an ego that makes Kanye look like Mother Theresa, so I have hard time believing that he ran for president just to take a dive.

[commoditous]

I don't think Trump is nearly as wealthy or liquid as he wants people to believe. And the Clintons' influence is immeasurable and their corruption total. So they promise Trump a little carve out from the Foundation, and Trump runs for office intending to throw the election.

Yeah, it's a frankly crazy idea, but can you think of any way in which Trump would act differently if he didn't intend to lose hugely in the primary?

[commoditous]

^general

[Hyp's Brexit Butthurt Lotion]

DAMNIT! I had to stop saying that because I was getting flamed to a crisp for it around here. Tin foil hat conspiracy nut! And that was right after Willy called the fucker up and encouraged him to run. I still wouldn't be surprised by it, I just quit talking about it.

Actually, I think he may have been doing it, and at some point decided maybe he could win. But who knows, maybe the Clintonistas have sweetened the pot lately after he put a bit of a scare into them.

[James Ard]

He trademarked the phrase Make America Great Again five days after Romney lost. Maybe a rich man's whim. Maybe not.

[Thymirus]

http://www.foxnews.com/politic.....fings.html

Ryan formally urges Clapper to block Clinton from classified briefings

House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., on Wednesday formally urged Director of National Intelligence James Clapper to deny presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton access to classified information ? an appeal that comes as FBI Director James Comey is set to testify on the email probe which yielded no charges.

Ryan, in a letter to Clapper, said he wants Clinton prohibited from receiving classified information "for the duration of her candidacy for president."

"There is no legal requirement for you to provide Secretary Clinton with classified information, and it would send the wrong signal to all those charged with safeguarding our nation's secrets if you choose to provide her access to this information despite the FBI's findings," Ryan wrote.

[Stormy Dragon]

If Clapper did that, AG Lynch would suddenly remember that time Clapper perjured himself before congress and nothing happened.

[The Last American Hero]

So it's a win-win.

[Bubba Jones]

I think pissing off the DNI has its own perils.

[Thymirus]

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2.....to-us.html

Russia sends its only aircraft carrier to Syria in response to US

Russia's accident-prone aircraft carrier is set to be put to the test ? if it gets there. Its history of embarrassing breakdowns may see an anticipated mission to Syria backfire.

The aircraft carrier is the largest leftover of the Soviet era's Cold War still active in the Russian navy. Now Russian government news agency Tass has declared the warship will be sent into the Mediterranean to conduct air strikes against insurgents and Islamic State in Syria between October and January.

It would be the first time a Russian aircraft carrier has ever engaged in combat.

But Moscow has also given itself some wiggle-room if the troubled 55,000-ton warship can't put to sea or launch attacks: the government news agency quotes just one 'anonymous' source for the report.

[DOOMco]

Interesting.

[The Late P Brooks]

Gary Johnson thinks Clinton's email scandal was a case of bad judgment and not necessarily due to criminal intent.

Gooble gobble, gooble gobble.

One of us!

One of us!

[Thymirus]

"She's too connected, and she's one of us. If we began genuinely pursuing politicians for their bad behavior, we ourselves might be at risk for our retarded horseshit."

[Thymirus]

Brazil says it will shoot down any aircraft violating airspace of Olympic Games

Brazil's government warned Wednesday that it will shoot down any unidentified aircraft that violates the protected airspace around facilities of the Olympics Games in Rio de Janeiro this August.

"We are not playing," said Defense Minister Raul Jungmann while introducing the security plan for the Olympics Games at a press conference in Rio de Janeiro.

The plan involves the use of 41,000 soldiers during the event, 21,000 of them in Rio de Janeiro and the rest in the other five cities where the soccer tournament will be held.

At the request of the state government of Rio de Janeiro, another 3,000 soldiers have been added to the initial figure of 38,000.

[Thymirus]

http://latino.foxnews.com/lati.....-olympics/

[Rufus The Monocled]

They'll shoot them down with soccer and volley balls!

[Thymirus]

Colonel: "OPEN FIRE!"

Artillery operator: "Que? You no pay us for, like, eight months, asshole. I NO FIRE!"

"Colonel: "Wait. I'm not being paid either. Why the fuck am I even here?"

[Hyp's Brexit Butthurt Lotion]

There's not even anyone to give the order, they're all in prison for various degrees of corruption. Trust me on that, I watch the news on Globo TV every evening.

[Pat (PM)]

They're anticipating a lot of extra air traffic from everyone fleeing the Zika.

[GILMORE?]

I suspect people realize that the money-train of bullshit graft-handouts is going to soon suffer one of those "Investigation into Olympic Corruption" probes, and that they better get in on the action before its too late, and the stadiums all collapse on the athletes.

[Hyp's Brexit Butthurt Lotion]

Brazil says it will shoot down any aircraft violating airspace of Olympic Games

They only have one plane they bought from Cuba in 1963. No one knows if it still works, but I doubt it, someone probably stole all the parts.

[lafe.long]

General Motors: Automaker Announces Plans to Create Robotic Glove to Benefit Factory Workers

GM is partnering with Swedish company Bioservo on the device designed to prevent repetitive-stress injuries. The glove, which was originally designed with NASA, reduces force on the muscles.

The waldoes are coming

[DenverJ]

Huh, where? Where's waldoes?

[Jerry on the rocks]

dragging home some piece of junk he never wanted in the first place.

But enough about his six wives.

[Thymirus]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016.....-rice.html

Boys arrested with BB guns ordered to write about Tamir Rice

CLEVELAND ? Two boys arrested with BB guns in a park were ordered to write essays about Tamir Rice, the 12-year-old who had a pellet gun when he was fatally shot by Cleveland police outside a recreation center.
Cleveland.com reported the boys, who were 12 and 15, admitted to disorderly conduct.

Police in Parma said they responded to reports of two kids with guns in a park pavilion in February and surveillance video captured the two brothers surrendering to police.
The judge asked both boys if they knew about Tamir's case and told them they're putting themselves at risk. Both were ordered to write the judge a report comparing their case to Tamir's.

[Ted S.]

I hope they write that the pigs got away with murdering Tamir Rice.

[Brett L]

"Dear Judge, thank you for reminding us that we could be shot and killed by any man wearing the King's sigil for any reason whatsoever, and they would face less punishment than we have received from you."

[Thymirus]

"Dear Judge, thanks for ordering these essays written. It got us to do a lot of research, and over the last few weeks of such research, accompanied by a hell of a lot of soul-searching and contemplation, we've realized that in a world full of stupid, authoritarian fuckheads like you and the cock-sucking pigs in governmental service we've got roaming the streets like wild dogs, a free man's real solution to these sorts of problems is to purchase firearms, train himself in their use, and carry them at all times.

The next time some cop accosts me, or anybody I love, the way that they did, they'll be going back home in a fucking urn.

Yours gratefully,

.

[Cyto]

This isn't a school official. This is an actual judge, right?

He has no excuse. The only proper response was to excoriate the police and prosecutors for inconveniencing the boys and issue an apology on behalf of the government.

What happened to my country? When did we become a nation of drooling idiots?

[Thymirus]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016.....-rice.html

Boys arrested with BB guns ordered to write about Tamir Rice

CLEVELAND ? Two boys arrested with BB guns in a park were ordered to write essays about Tamir Rice, the 12-year-old who had a pellet gun when he was fatally shot by Cleveland police outside a recreation center.
Cleveland.com reported the boys, who were 12 and 15, admitted to disorderly conduct.

Police in Parma said they responded to reports of two kids with guns in a park pavilion in February and surveillance video captured the two brothers surrendering to police.
The judge asked both boys if they knew about Tamir's case and told them they're putting themselves at risk. Both were ordered to write the judge a report comparing their case to Tamir's.

[Thymirus]

I swear to God Reason's digital squirrels are picking on me.

[Slammer]

It's ok. One post for each of the two boys.

[Rich]

Both were ordered to write the judge a report comparing their case to Tamir's.

I look forward to both posting their report on social media and being sent to juvie for contempt of court.

[Thymirus]

I look forward to seeing cops in permanent solitary confiment on LWP sentences, or justifiably shot, for their crimes.

/Pipe dream.

[Zunalter]

The judge asked both boys if they knew about Tamir's case and told them they're putting themselves at risk.

"Hey kids, the militarization of the police coupled with the sclerosis imposed by a corrupt union has made common sense policing a thing mostly of the past. Not saying you won't be gunned down without the pellet guns, goodness no, just saying that its a near certainty with them."

[Rufus The Monocled]

I hope the two boys don't disappoint and pen a 'eat my shorts' style essay.

Hey judge, what would happen if a cop simply mistook anything in my hands for a gun and shoots me dead like a dog. But as I lay dying waiting for my last breath I watch them console each other and then I expire.

FUCK. YOU.

[thrakkorzog]

"Dear Judge, I know we'rem supposed to write about the Tamir Rice case, but during my research I read about Bounkham Phonesavanh. You statist assholes will burn a baby in its crib, then CYA and claim that procedures were followed, and nobody will be punished for the clusterfuck. Except for the taxpayers who have to pay for the medical bills. Kiss my ass you psychotic fucks."

[The Fusionist]

"Compare our case to Tamir Rice's case? Well, we didn't get shot. I guess the cops who arrested us weren't looking out for their own safety.

"Or maybe the cop who shot Tamir Rice acted wrongly?

"Gosh, your Honor, I don't know which it is."

[The Late P Brooks]

A study by the Department of Veterans Affairs determined that an average of 20 American military vets commit suicide every day.

I blame the guns.

[Brett L]

Unfortunately for the VA, that still leaves about 75000 a day who aren't seeing doctors in a timely manner.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

In a hearing with lawmakers, FBI Director James Comey said they did not record Hillary Clinton's interview and did not swear her in.

I don't wanna armchair quarterback here, but if Diane Reynolds (Paul.) were the target of a major FBI probe, would my interview not be recorded?

I'm squishy on the 'swearing in' part because I've never heard of someone being 'sworn in' when being interrogated by cops, unless you're giving a... sworn deposition.

[Jerryskids]

I don't wanna armchair quarterback here, but if Diane Reynolds (Paul.) were the target of a major FBI probe, would my interview not be recorded?

You seriously don't remember the incident with the Boston Marathon bombers associate in Florida who got killed by the FBI under questionable circumstances and the only thing they had to go off of in investigating it was the FBI agent's notes because the FBI has a policy of not recording interviews? That's why you lawyer up absolutely with the Feds - the locals may or may not have a recording device malfunction that puts a critical point under a "he said/she said" assertion, but with the Feds there is nothing but "he said". The agent's notes are it. They do not want recordings that show maybe what you said wasn't exactly what they said you said or how you said it.

[Zunalter]

Gary Johnson thinks Clinton's email scandal was a case of bad judgment and not necessarily due to criminal intent.

Wow, Trump is actually better than GJ on a topic. Presumably this is a sign of the apocalypse, no?

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

A sign of GJ being nearly as bad a candidate for president as everyone else still in the race?

[SIV]

Trump's better than GayJay on almost everything.

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

In a hearing with lawmakers, FBI Director James Comey said they did not record Hillary Clinton's interview

So...going in, they had no intention to cite this testimony in anything ever. Got it. Seems like a totally normal, routine way of conducting investigations.

[generic Brand]

This is what white people can do to support #blacklivesmatter

Who feels like being condescended to?

P.S. I have un-ironically said "All Lives Matter" from the get go (along with ironically saying "Blue Lives Matter..." Won't someone think of the Smurfs and the Na'Vi???) because I actually see the problem without a racial bias in my way and recognize that the State doesn't give a fuck what color you are if you get in its way.

[Brett L]

While the shake-down group calling itself "Black Lives Matter" may be a joke, there are a lot professional people of color in my FB acquaintance talking about these last two. I think the police unions are going to be surprised when someone runs on repealing the "Police Bill of Rights" laws and wins.

[Thymirus]

I'm a Turko-Armenian, Russian-born American. I wonder how hard a progressive's head would explode if I explained that in a future argument.

[Rufus The Monocled]

You're not *really* those things until they give you THEIR stamp of approval.

Until then, you're *white* pal.

[Thymirus]

Yeah, I remember that sort of bullshit with the George Zimmerman case. Leftists are fucking predictable. And racist.

[Brett L]

You probably "pass". I'll bet half your friends think you're white.

[Thymirus]

I have distinctly Turkic/Arabic features, but my skin color is very light -- though not pinkish, as you'd expect, but with a more yellow tinge to it. The person with the most similar skin to mine (who I recall specifically for that reason, since I barely knew the guy) was a Korean kid I went to school with.

Most people do just assume I'm white/don't even bring ethnicity up because I probably look ordinarily white to them. But if you take a photo of me in shitty light, and my skin color looks darker, I really do look like a Turk.

[Clich? Bandit]

yellow? Man, get some UV, you got jaundice. Groovus can provide a guide on reducing blood serum bilirubin.

[Thymirus]

Not that yellow.

[Clich? Bandit]

whew, i was worried for a sec. Glad you are OK.

* takes down Save Ferris sign

[Thymirus]

Do I get to bone a young Mia Sara if I say I'm sick? Because if I do, then I've DEFINITELY got jaundice. And cancer. And cancer on top of the cancer.

*Coughs violently.*

[grrizzly]

I'm a Turko-Armenian, Russian-born American.

And I knew a German guy married to a Russian-Jewish woman.

[Thymirus]

I don't know if you're being facetious, but long story short, my maternal grandmother was the result of interbreeding between ethnic Turks and Armenians.

Modern Armenians range from white and tall to near-AA dark and with sharply Turkish features.

[grrizzly]

Sorry, if it sounded that way. It wasn't my intent. The Armenians I know have been rather anti-Turkish. On the other hand, I probably know personally many more Germans and Jews (I'm Russian btw) so nothing surprises me there.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Written by Sally Kohn...

So I asked some of the leading voices and activists in Black Lives Matter to share their hopes, asks and even demands for white people in America today. Each echoed many of the same themes, encompassing both hopes and critiques. Here, in their own words, is what they said.

I believe that one message I heard loud and clear is, they're not interested in "that gay shit, it's about Black people being killed!"

[GILMORE?]

It sometimes seems like Black Lives Matter's main purpose is to allow lots of white liberals to ostentatiously say "IM ONE OF THE GOOD ONES AND ALL YALL OTHERS IS JUST A BUNCH OF RACIST!!"

e.g.

Amanda Allen
8/19/2015 11:36 PM EST
Based on the comments here, this article should have suggested white people start by challenging themselves to be "not racist" enough to spend an evening educating themselves about the basics of race and racism in America, to accept that they live in a white supremacist society and that they have, over their lives, benefitted from racism, and to stop writing ignorant and hateful comments about #BlackLivesMatter on the internet.

[The Fusionist]

As a white person, I just *love* how when the cops encounter a white homeless suspect they're all polite and deferential, drive him to the shelter, and get him a warm meal.

/sarc

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

A study by the Department of Veterans Affairs determined that an average of 20 American military vets commit suicide every day.

Cost savings!

[Banjos]

Gary Johnson thinks Clinton's email scandal was a case of bad judgment and not necessarily due to criminal intent.

And...I have officially ran out of people to vote for.

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

Write in "Paul/Amash"

You know you want to

[The Last American Hero]

You've got it backwards.

[lafe.long]

Nivea actually built a seagull robot that craps sunscreen on you at the beach

With the arrival of summertime comes the increase of trips to the beach, it doesn't take a genius to realize that you'd need to be on top of your skin care game while you're hanging out under the sun for hours on end. You can arm yourself with a hat, an umbrella, and lotion with high SPF, but thanks to Nivea, a sunscreen-crapping robot bird is now an option as well.

[Brett L]

Maybe there is something to the idea that too much sunscreen gives you brain damage.

[Thymirus]

Acid + major corporate financing + real-life troll = sunscreen-shitting robotic bird.

[Zunalter]

It would be awkward to get the sunscreen-seagull confused with the normal ones.

[lafe.long]

Emily Ratajkowski: Model Poses Nude, Discusses Sexuality and Feminism in Harper's Bazaar

Ratajkowski discussed empowerment through female sexuality and society's reaction to a woman's body among other things in her interview with author Naomi Wolf for the magazine.

[Brett L]

I don't know about reactions to a woman's body, but I have a reaction to that woman's body. And I don't mean Ms. Wolf.

[Thymirus]

I'm always outraged when a model conceals her goods. Here's an uncensored picture of a pretty gal for other similarly disappointed Reasonoids:

https://s31.postimg.org/ocnadtefd/2212.jpg

[Pat (PM)]

The tl;dr version

[GILMORE?]

"" Harper's Bazaar""

NOW WITH MO'TITTY

Lewis Lapham dons smoking jacket.

[lafe.long]

Tetris: British Man Builds Computer That Weighs Half a Ton and Can Play Video Game

James Newman told BBC he spent four years and $53,000 building a "Megaprocessor" that is 6 feet tall and nearly 33 feet wide. Newman said he built it to learn how microprocessors work.

[GILMORE?]

$53,000 ... Newman said he built it to learn how microprocessors work.

I think a library card and an arduino kit is... well, i guess its too late now.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

I like this guy, he doesn't pull punches. "how many LEDs does YOUR computer have? Exactly."

*spikes football*

[GILMORE?]

after all that time and money, the processor is only 20kHz.

[lafe.long]

Bonneville Dam: Oregon, Washington and Idaho Get Approval to Continue Culling Sea Lions at Fish Ladder

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration authorized the states to continue culling sea lions that eat thousands of endangered salmon and steelhead climbing the ladders at the dam.

[SIV]

I hate that "culling" shit. Just legalize sea lion trapping/hunting and let the public take care of the problem.

[american socialist]

Today in comparative political systems: Government Investigations

In the UK as a result of a 7 year long investigation the opposition party repudiated its position on the Iraq War and pledged that military interventions should be used as an absolute last resort. In the US, Congressional Republicans wondered whether HRC's turkey sandwich order to Quizno's sent from Clinton.com is reason to throw most of her staff in jail.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

It's true that Tony Blair will resign as Prime Minister over this.

[Pat (PM)]

Today in comparative political systems

Let's do the one where you compare Stalin intentionally starving and mass-murdering 20 million people to the United States bullying Manuel Noriega again.

[KDN]

Let's give credit where it's due: at least Stalin never let the (((banksters))) sell him an adjustable rate mortgage to a home he couldn't possibly afford. All systems have their good points and bad.

[Thymirus]

It's funny when unintentional retards like you peddle bullshit to people who know the subject from daily, local exposure. It's a good way to get called out on your nonsense.

The shithead tasked with executing this "investigation", former BPC John Chilcot, is a machine politician in the tradition of Tammany Hall and Hillary Clinton. His "investigation" consisted of Googling news articles and interviewing random functionaries in his spare time.

The British Labor Party, whose openly socialist wing and the most left-leaning fifth (or so) of the party's voting block were rabidly opposed to the Iraq War anyway, is now being humiliated for the political maneuvering and damage control they're having to employ because now that they've gained meaningful power in their party's structure, they've been shown to be as spectacularly corrupt and ruthless as any banana-republic-loving leftists we've seen throughout the years.

Are you honestly this fucking clueless?

[bacon-magic]

Yes.

[commoditous]

The regulars at DU, where, ironically, he shills for Hillary against the Berniebots, whom he hates even more than libertarians, find commie kid soooooo, like, insightful, and he figured he can take that show on the road.

Turns out not everyone is as dumb, uninformed, and ideologically blinkered as the 'tards at DU.

[lafe.long]

Eduardo Cunha: Brazil's Lower House Speaker Resigns Amid Corruption Probe

Three months after leading the impeachment of Brazilian president Dilma Rousseff, Cunha announced his resignation Thursday. He is under investigation for alleged perjury, money laundering and bribery.

[lafe.long]

Ivanka Trump: Sen. Bob Corker, Eric Trump Say Donald Trump's Daughter Would Make Great Vice President

"His best running mate, by the way, would be Ivanka," Corker said to MSNBC. Ivanka's brother, Eric Trump, agreed on "Fox & Friends," saying "she's certainly got my vote" for the vice presidency.

[The Late P Brooks]

he spent four years and $53,000 building a "Megaprocessor" that is 6 feet tall and nearly 33 feet wide. Newman said he built it to learn how microprocessors work.

Does it use 100,000 hydraulically actuated switches?

[GILMORE?]

So apparently among the things Donald Trump is willing to negotiate is whether he'll actually serve as president if he wins the election.

What he actually said =

"I'll let you know how I feel about it after it happens," he said, minutes before leaving his Trump Tower office to fly to a campaign rally in New Hampshire.

Which seems on the face of it not the most controversial thing for a candidate to say.

Modern Methodology of Political Reporting =

"Journalist asks leading question; candidate gives evasive answer; Journalist runs hyperbolic headline making absurd claim based on "BUT HE DINNINT DENY IT-reasoning"

I get it - you need to have something to say, so creating stories out of offhand quips is the job. Its just that it seems no one seems to put much effort into it.

[widget]

Trump's instincts are uncanny. He's saying "I love the game, but I could take it or leave it." That's 99% BS, but he distinguishes himself from HRC by just saying that. Trump will still be happy, rich, and sleep with a lingerie model if he looses. HRC ... not so much. Huma might stay for a year or so, but that's all.

[Not an Economist]

My guess is Trump was trolling the reporter. And the reporter fell for it.

[waffles]

This is how you AirBnB.

Hedge funder Brett Barna threw a wild "Wolf of Wall Street"-style Hamptons party ? awash with Champagne, scores of bikini-clad women and costumed gun-toting midgets ? and allegedly trashed a $20 million mansion.

[Thymirus]

I eagerly await the sanctimonious bullshit Hollywood movie they'll make about it in a year or two, probably starring LeoMatt DeDamon, and directed by Oliver Stone.

[Zunalter]

I think the initial portion of the sentence assumes the latter.

[Ken Shultz]

One of the confusing things about Airbnb is that it isn't actually in the air.

It's sort of like that time I went into Jamba Juice and ordered "The jamba juice".

[The Last American Hero]

If you ever ride in a plane, don't try to go out and shop at the Skymall mid-flight.

[Slammer]

Bernie Sanders Is Expected to Endorse Hillary Clinton Next Week

[Rufus The Monocled]

Will she come with a 'No GMO label'?

[Knarf Yenrab!]

About time. He's lucky he's made it this long without finding himself crushed to death under a barbell.

[OneOut]

Is it surprising that that story got little air time ?)

[The Fusionist]

Huh?

[ant1sthenes]

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/.....ry-clinton

[The Fusionist]

Oh, that guy. Yeah, that's weird, what can I say?

[See Double You]

The Anti-Wall-Street Candidate supporting the Wall Street Candidate.

TEAM before principles. Of course, Bernie made that clear early on when he said he would support whoever would be the Democratic nominee.

[SIV]

Bernie Sanders Is Expected to Endorse Hillary Clinton Next Week

Gary Johnson and Bill Weld already beat him to it.

[Arizona_Guy]

He was going to bend the knee sooner or later.

Endorsing someone who is all he claims to be against. I'd actually have some respect if he endorsed Stein.

[Ken Shultz]

"FBI Director James Comey said they did not record Hillary Clinton's interview and did not swear her in."

I've long argued that Hillary Clinton has disqualified herself from office by taking money from foreign governments while Secretary of State (not to mention as a Presidential candidate). Point being that rewarding her with the White House for basically ignoring the rule of law would mean more of the same in the future. 'A country with an unaccountable executive' is a pretty good working definition for an authoritarian state, conceding that, yeah, some countries are more authoritarian than others.

Thing is, we don't have to wait for Hillary to become President to see her become unaccountable. It's already happening. It has already happened.

Seeing Hillary rewarded for misconduct with unaccountability is just fundamentally different from Trump being wrong on the issues. People who overlook Hillary's disqualifications and unaccountability and put her into the White House might get what they deserve; unfortunately, the rest of us will have to suffer along with them. It's one thing to undermine the Constitution for expediency; quite another to make a mockery of the principles of justice, accountability, and propriety, and Hillary Clinton has been doing the latter in the national spotlight--day in, day out, year after year--for more than two decades.

She makes Richard Nixon look like a saint.

[Pope Jimbo]

But us taxpayers will save some money by only having to pay her 78% of what we are paying Obama right?

And only 78% of a SS detail will be needed.

[Episteme]

But us taxpayers will save some money by only having to pay her 78% of what we are paying Obama right?

A female president is just the first step to reducing the government budget through feminism!

[Thymirus]

"I've long argued that Hillary Clinton has disqualified herself from office by taking money from foreign governments while Secretary of State (not to mention as a Presidential candidate)."

I'd argue that this definitively merits prosecution for treason against the United States, and a just sentence of death to follow.

[Ken Shultz]

I don't know about that.

I know that taking money from foreign governments while Secretary of State and continuing to do so while running for President means that voters should never entrust that person with executive privilege, the power to pardon, control of the Justice Department, or access to the White House's silverware.

The important thing is for voters to make sure she stays out of the White House because our justice system is already powerless against her. How much worse would it be if she gets executive privilege and she's the boss of the FBI?

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Point being that rewarding her with the White House for basically ignoring the rule of law would mean more of the same in the future

Isn't that the "conservative case" for Hillary Clinton? That she'll at least maintain the status-quo?

[Knarf Yenrab!]

Seeing Hillary rewarded for misconduct with unaccountability is just fundamentally different from Trump being wrong on the issues.

Trump is a game-show host who's forcing a couple of key issues to the fore while blathering on about economic patriotism. The good he'd do the nation in comparison to W/Obama far outstrips the harm; if he reduces US involvement in the ME and cracks down on illegals, he could gild the white house for all I care. Just do less damage than the assholes before you, the_donald.

Hillary is an LBJ-style sociopath who lacks LBJ's political skill. She has no talent, no shame; she's just Bill Clinton's shrill wife who learned decades ago that she can say and do anything without facing consequences. If she becomes president, flyover country will become unhinged, and the red-blue gulf will continue to grow to the breaking point unless she's quickly impeached or otherwise removed from power. The country has been coming apart racially and politically under Obama; what do you think we'd do under HRC, especially when the stock bubble pops and people begin losing their homes and pensions?

Postrel & co's belief that she's just another politician is so foolish that only someone who's spent the last decade in an NYC bubble could possibly believe it. Hillary is cartoonishly evil, and it's hard to believe that so many people are so blind to that.

[The Late P Brooks]

RE: Trump.

I just listened to a clip of him giving a speech somewhere recently. It sounded like some beat poet's episode of stream-of-consciousness verbal diarrhea. The guy's not "trolling" anybody. He's a blathering imbecile.

[John]

If there is a quicker way to self identify as an imbecile than using the term :"verbal diarrhea" like it is clever or means anything, I am unaware of what it would be.

Beyond that, every politician in Washington is an imbecile. Why do you think we are in this situation Brooks? Bad Luck So spare me the "but he is the sTOOPID" We have had about 30 years of utter stupid. It is pretty fucking doubtful he will be any worse.

[Ted S.]

See? You call *everyone* who disagrees with you stupid.

[You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)]

In fact, it is YOU who are the imbecile, Brooks.

[american socialist]

Brooks,

Leave Donald Trump alone. LEAVE HIM ALONE!

[Zunalter]

Gary Johnson thinks Clinton's email scandal was a case of bad judgment and not necessarily due to criminal intent.

Hey, GayJay, if I wanted a politician to carry water for members of opposing political parties and turn a blind eye to their corrupt bullshit, I'd vote for Romney 2012.

[Ken Shultz]

Yeah, I know what you mean.

If a candidate doesn't agree with me 100% on every issue, there's no way I can vote for him.

I also can't eat lettuce unless it's fair trade, gmo-free, was transported by teamsters, is certified cruelty free by PETA, and unless a certain portion of the proceeds are given to the Special Olympics.

[Thymirus]

To be fair, Johnson is relatively squishy on most things. He's not a good candidate.

[John]

He strikes me as the kind of guy who would be President of the HOA at some slightly progressive gated community.

[Ken Shultz]

That depends on what you mean by a good candidate.

Is he a rigid ideologue skilled in the art of libertarian smack fu?

No.

Do he and Weld attract tons more positive media coverage than any other candidates could and make us look less creepy to a general audience than they think we are now?

The correct answer is yes.

When people on the left hear the word "libertarian", they picture the militia movement a la Bundy (ranch).

When people on the right hear the word "libertarian", many of them picture Rainbow Family anti-war queerbaits.

Now, both of them get an eye full of two governors , instead, both of whom seem about as reasonable as anybody around the water cooler. ]

They may not be the libertarian heroes we need to win the White House, but they're the candidates we need to break people's preconceptions right now. If all they do is help dispel the militia man/crust punk kid stereotype in the minds of future swing voters, they'll be doing the libertarian movement a great and necessary service.

[Banjos]

If he was a libertarian ideologue, I would forgive him for being such a lousy politician and terrible at being the libertarian message-bearer. But on top of that, he's a lukewarm libertarian if you can even call him a libertarian. The Clinton thing was the last straw for me. Fuck him.

And Ken, what's your obsession with getting people to like you? Libertarians become libertarians because of the message not because they want to be liked. The movement has grown leaps and bounds without the "help" of mushy moderates virtue signaling.

[Ken Shultz]

"And Ken, what's your obsession with getting people to like you? Libertarians become libertarians because of the message not because they want to be liked."

You need to separate converting people to the libertarian gospel in your mind from winning the votes of people--who are not libertarians.

Winning elections is about appealing to people who do not share your ideology. It's about getting people to like you--yeah. For the same reasons they like some restaurants and not others.

I want to see a more libertarian world in my lifetime, and that's about convincing people who don't like us now--for whatever reason--to like us more in the future. I'd love it only rational people voted, but elections are decided by margins that make the portion of the population that are all the way at the bottom of the IQ curve really important.

People vote for candidates for the same reason they root for their favorite baseball team--because they like them, because they like the players, etc.

We have to persuade the world we were given. As libertarians, we understand markets. We need to operate within the bounds of what the voter market wants. I want to live in a more libertarian world in my lifetime. None of us may live long enough to see the voter market become largely rational. We understand that as libertarians--it's what separates us from the Objectivists animals.

[John]

Saying it is okay for Hillary to skate on this is a pretty big indictment of his character.

[Ken Shultz]

If this is a way for Johnson to dodge being thrown to the dogs by the mainstream media as an absurd anti-Hillary shill, then it's probably a good strategic move.

Meanwhile, the email server thing is like #12 on my list of scandals that prove why Hillary is unfit to be President.

And it's important not to get bogged down in yesterday's issues.

Hillary is not going to be prosecuted before the election no matter what Johnson says.

Johnson should concentrate on saying whatever makes him more likely to gain support--and less likely to lose it among disaffected Democrats, who apparently are flocking to him as much as they are from Republicans.

[thrakkorzog]

Except what is Johnson saying that distinguishes from the other candidates? He's for legalizing weed, but that's not really far outside of the mainstream. Right now he's just kind of Republican lite. We all know he's not going to win, but he can at least use the soapbox to try to make libertarian ideas more mainstream, and he can't even bother doing that.

[Hyp's Brexit Butthurt Lotion]

Gary is weak on the WOD for a libertarian. He's not for legalizing any other drugs, only cannabis, which is already a popular stance, so he's taking no risk here. He's not really a libertarian, he's more of a mix of libertarian leaning Republican and Democrat lite.

[SIV]

Trump publicly called for the legalization of ALL drugs for 20+ right up until he was running for the GOP nomination and questioned by the press about it.

[Ken Shultz]

I think he's for privatizing the medical system, replacing social security with something better, lower spending, less taxes, yeah, ending the war on drug, . . .

Gary Johnson is a libertarian who is distinguished from the other candidates on a whole host of libertarian issues.

[Robert]

Yeah, legalizing only mj among all the drugs is such a small step in front of the crowd, it's hardly worth it for Johnson to make a big deal about. He could at least say his att'y gen'l would change narcotic analgesics to schedule 4 so they could be prescribed for longer periods (although states might still limit them to shorter), & not have prod'n quotas so there'd be no shortages. He could talk about how he'd lean on the sec'y of HHS to lower the standards for drugs, medical devices, & food additives to be declared safe & effective; ditto for the sec'y of the Interior re pesticides. There's so much he could say so far short of abolishing FDA or EPA, this is very disappointing.

If Trump were asked his positions about drug & medical device regul'n, he might well give positions better than Johnson's. But the real problem is that neither of them are bringing these things up. Johnson's fallen into the tax reform trap, a waste of time & political capital, instead of a lot of things he could call att'n to that'd get him sympathy & maybe even votes or donations.

[Hyp's Brexit Butthurt Lotion]

Jill Stein is trashing her on it. I just think that Stein has bigger balls than Gary. All that weed must have caused some sort of atrophy, balls and brain matter...

[Ken Shultz]

I don't know or care who Jill Stein is, but Gary Johnson is a perfectly legitimate libertarian no matter Jill Stein is or what Jill Stein says.

I think some people here may just be upset that Gary Johnson isn't the Republican candidate they're looking for in a Libertarian.

[Hyp's Brexit Butthurt Lotion]

Geez, pay attention, Ken. Stein is the Green Party candidate and she's polling only about 3-4 points behind Johnson right now.

Gary Johnson is a perfectly legitimate libertarian

Meh

[Ken Shultz]

Why should I care who the Green candidate is?

[ant1sthenes]

No, the problem is that he seems an awful lot like the Republican candidates people normally get.

[Ken Shultz]

I bet I know how Johnson feels.

It's not enough for me to denounce Hillary Clinton as a traitor for accepting donations from foreign governments. No, I have to agree with everyone about her email server, too?

I told Banjos, above, that we need to appeal to the people at the bottom of the IQ spectrum--not become the people at the bottom of the IQ spectrum.

Hillary Clinton was never going to face charges while Obama was in the White House. Even if the FBI charged her, Obama would have pardoned her before she was ever prosecuted--regardless of whether she wins the election. That was always true. It was true before the FBI announcement was made, and it's true now after the FBI announcement is made. It was true before Gary Johnson said he didn't think her intent was criminal. She was always never going to be prosecuted no matter what Gary Johnson said or didn't say.

Does everyone appreciate that it is not Gary Johnson's fault that Hillary Clinton isn't being prosecuted over her email server? I hope everyone groks that fact eventually.

[ant1sthenes]

No one's saying that he's responsible Ken, they're saying they can't support someone too fucking cowardly to say that Hillary is corrupt and almost certainly had malicious intent in setting up her server, even if her spoliation of evidence ensured that it would be difficult to prove and her corruption of public officials ensured that it wouldn't be prosecuted.

Implementing any libertarian policy will take balls and a willingness to go head to head with popular kids at DC High, and Gary clearly doesn't have either. It doesn't matter if he wins the election, because he'll spend the next four years losing every other fight. I expect that's true of Trump as well, but in his case that's a good thing -- he'll be as entertaining regardless, and his policies are stupid anyway.

[Ken Shultz]

"They're saying they can't support someone too fucking cowardly to say that Hillary is corrupt and almost certainly had malicious intent in setting up her server"

And what if he doesn't think that's so?

Is he supposed to pretend he believes something he doesn't--just to prove he's got balls to you?

What if he despises Hillary for other reasons?

Why isn't that enough?

Sounds to me like you're flying off the handle on an issue that doesn't really make any difference anyway. Add it to the list of other things that clearly demonstrate Hillary is too much of a crook to be President--and for which she will never be prosecuted.

[Ken Shultz]

Did you know that while Hillary was at Rose Law, she set up a commercial real estate partnership that was used to divert taxpayer money (meant to reimburse proverbial "widows and orphans" who lost their life savings in an un-FDIC insured S&L) into her husband's political campaign?

Even though everyone in the partnership except for Hillary and her husband (including the sitting governor of Arkansas) were convicted and sent to prison for the scheme, Hillary herself will never be prosecuted for that either.

If the only way to make her pay for crimes like that is to make sure she loses on election day, then that's probably a great reason to vote for Trump rather than Johnson, isn't it? Why would Johnson want to focus on that? His job is to sell himself and libertarian ideas--not stump for Trump.

I hope Hillary loses. However reluctantly, that means I hope Trump wins. I also hope that Johnson gets something north of 10% of the vote on election day. I hope all three of these things happen.

I don't think Johnson loses anything for saying what he really thinks about Hillary's email server--if that's what he really thinks--and if we're going to fault him for calling it like he really sees it, then we've really gotten off track.

[ant1sthenes]

And what if he doesn't think that's so?

Then he's dumber than Donald Trump? Actually, make that dumber than Sheila Jackson Lee. Which still makes him manifestly unqualified.

[Robert]

This is not about whether Johnson can bring Clinton to justice; it's whether Johnson says things that voters like. The only thing that makes sense, if he really cares about his campaign, is the theory that he's making a play to the DNC to include him in the debates.

[Zunalter]

If a candidate doesn't agree with me 100% on every issue, there's no way I can vote for him.

I also can't eat lettuce unless it's fair trade, gmo-free, was transported by teamsters, is certified cruelty free by PETA, and unless a certain portion of the proceeds are given to the Special Olympics.

It's fire season, you'd better be careful how large you build your straw men.

[SIV]

Romney would have been a much better candidate for the LP to sell out with. More electable and, at this point, more "libertarian" than GayJay.

[Ken Shultz]

In what way is Romney more libertarian than Johnson?

[Libertarian]

Gary Johnson might as well hang it up. Trump will absolutely lock up the libertarian vote if he says he won't serve if elected.

[Ken Shultz]

I'm gonna call Poe's Law on this one.

[The Late P Brooks]

If there is a quicker way to self identify as an imbecile than using the term :"verbal diarrhea" like it is clever or means anything, I am unaware of what it would be.

Boo hoo. Once again, your tiny lizard bird brain clicks and whirs into IF NOT A THEN B mode.

[See Double You]

Gary Johnson thinks Clinton's email scandal was a case of bad judgment and not necessarily due to criminal intent.

Gary Johnson must actually believe this, because it makes no sense as a strategy to win over disaffected Bernie supporters, much less Trump supporters. Hell, even Jill Stein condemned the FBI's decision.

[AlmightyJB]

Pot heads shy away from conflict

[widget]

HRC is corrupt to the core and I will not vote for her. But now that I registered to vote for first time in 30 years I have made some modest commitment to vote. I can't vote for Johnson 'cause he is a cuck. But I not am sure that my ballot would scan if I left parts of it blank. I really have no idea how it works at the voting booth level and what the Diebold machine does with my hanging chads. I don't want to be too coy here, I will cast a vote for Trump, but the down-ballot is still a problem if someone like ... say... Paul Ryan is on it.

[thrakkorzog]

If you're unironically calling someone a cuck, please do us all a favor and stay away from the voting booths.

[Microaggressor]

Every vote counts!

[SIV]

If you're unironically calling someone a cuck, please do us all a favor and stay away from the voting booths.

^Things people say who like watching their wife fuck other guys^

[widget]

Cuck is a metaphor for a man with no domain.

I am not alpha, in case you're wondering. I am a beta man.

[Crusty Juggler]

"Crusty, please post something pointless that includes a photo that will make the puerile commentariat laugh."

Ok: Taylor Swift: The Ham Sandwich

[AlmightyJB]

Ham vagina. mmmmmm.

[AlmightyJB]

Is that a parody site? Or does she hate Christians so much she would create a fake Christian site and spends her days posting super retarded shit.

[Pay up, Palin's Buttplug!]

It has to be parody.

[GILMORE?]

Spreading Positivity through Jesus Christ

oh, ok, i thought you were batshit crazy for a....

It would seem that my tweet about Taylor Swift and her ham sandwich vagina has gone viral worldwide. I've seen it on MTV UK and Australia. Huffington Post. Teen Vogue. Glamour Magazine. BBC Trending. Metro UK. Mashable. JUST to name a few. I do not seek this out, in fact it's very overwhelming and strange. The constant notifications and abusive messages are not fun and I do not understand why anyone would think that I do this on purpose for attention or as a joke.

This is my life.
...
Hence, why I posted the image [*of a floppy ham-sandwich, which i said resembles T.Swift's vag]

It was merely meant to be a visual aid to help you guys and my daughters understand the dangers of promiscuity.

The left sandwich is far more ragged and worn looking and rather unattractive to the eye. I see this as Taylor's symbolic promiscuity. The right is much more neat, clean and pure. This represents my daughters' innocence and purity because THEY were raised correctly.

Ohhhhhhhhhhh! I didn't get it before. Now I get it. Praise Jesus.

[AlmightyJB]

She can get back to me when she has actual pictures of Taylor's and her daughter's vaginas (assuming her daughters are of legal age)

[GILMORE?]

CLASSIC =

Crusty says:
July 7, 2016 at 10:27 pm

Would eat.

[GILMORE?]

*also amazing - he traveled into the future to do it!

[You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)]

See? The vagina is so mysterious, even women don't understand how the labia and such work.

[Bubba Jones]

I don't think she understands what "elegant" means.

[The Late P Brooks]

It would seem that my tweet about Taylor Swift and her ham sandwich vagina has gone viral worldwide.

Hungry, now.

[AlmightyJB]

Map looks about the it usually does. We'll be watching Ohio and Florida again.

http://www.foxnews.com/politic.....-play.html

[widget]

What does the yellow color mean?

[GILMORE?]

They are states that like to be peed on

[AlmightyJB]

It's true. Plus Florida is America's penis. Just like NJ is NY's Ball Sack.

[AlmightyJB]

It's true. Plus Florida is America's penis. Just like NJ is NY's Ball Sack.

[Animal]

Well, that explains the yellow rain in Denver last night.