Sanders Acknowledges It 'Doesn't Appear' He'll Win Nomination, Marco Rubio Running for Re-Election After All, Cleveland Celebrates a Win: P.M. Links

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  Donald Trump is trying to get back on message, calling Hillary Clinton a "world-class liar." Bernie Sanders acknowledges it "doesn't appear" he'll be the Democratic nominee, while 18 percent of his supporters say they'll vote for Gary Johnson.

• House Democrats, led by former civil rights leader Rep. John Lewis (Ga.) are holding a sit-in in Congress demanding unspecificed gun control legislation.
• Former House Speaker Dennis Hastert reported to prison today for a 15-month sentence related to paying hush money to victims he molested.
• Marco Rubio says he's running for re-election to the Senate after all. Former rival presidential candidate and fellow senator Ted Cruz said he's "glad" to endorse him.
• Lightning in India killed at least 90 people.
• Cleveland celebrates the city's first sports championship since 1964.

Comments

[Fist of Etiquette]

Cleveland celebrates the city's first sports championship since 1964.

Not the letdown they deserve.

[Juvenile Bluster]

I'm surprised these idiots weren't let down a dozen or so stories.

[AlmightyJB]

That reminds me of a movie.

[Timon 19]

Nah. Plenty of footholds and handholds on those ugly-ass parking garages. Looks much scarier from a long shot from a helicopter than it does from the ground.

[Agent Cooper]

Parkour!

[Rufus The Monocled]

Hello.

And Bernie Kosar can finally relax.

[Crusty Juggler]

Earnest Byner can relax a little.

[BigT]

Jose Mesa says "Gracias"

[Raven Nation]

Vegas gets NHL expansion team.

[Mickey Rat]

That is tough, that team would be playing 84 road games a season.

[Rufus The Monocled]

82.

But point noted.

[Raven Nation]

OK, totally missed point. Explanation?

[Doctor Whom]

Guten Abend.

Even at LGBT Pride, people are questioning the Divine inspiration of government solutions.

[Tonio]

Here's the thing with that - up until very recently the police were the enemies of gay people - bullshit entrapment for soliciting, gay bar raids, etc. While the politicians have made them play all nicey-nice with the homos, that could change in an instance. Also, I could never understand the police fetish that a lot of older gay men had.

[Zeb]

I don't get it either, but it seems to be common enough among straight people too. Though probably less publicly.

[thrakkorzog]

Check out Ilsa, she-wolf of the SS. Some people have weird fetishes. NTTAWT.

[SIV]

One of the finest motion pictures ever projected on the silver screen. Ilsa is a masterpiece of historical fiction.

[You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)]

I'm guten-free, Abed.

[Crusty Juggler]

Polish boys for everyone!

[Ted S.]

You want them to polish your knob?

[Zeb]

So is that "Polish" as in from Poland, ore "polish" as in shoe polish?

[Crusty Juggler]

The Polish Boy is a sausage sandwich native to Cleveland, Ohio. It consists of a link of kielbasa placed in a bun, and covered with a layer of french fries, a layer of barbecue sauce or hot sauce, and a layer of coleslaw.

Get some culture.

[Zeb]

Oh. I thought it was some variation on "rent boy".

And you still haven't answered my question.

[Crusty Juggler]

Oh. I thought it was some variation on "rent boy".

Disgusting.

[Playa Manhattan.]

.... sandwich native to Cleveland

....Get some culture

[Chipper Morning Wood]

He meant polish as in pole-ish. He likes them anorexic.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

Narrow Gays?

[Timon 19]

If I wasn't basically burnt to a crisp and thus feeling a bit off, I so would be having a Polish boy now.

That was one long ass parade.

[BigT]

I watched it from the comfort of my family room with iced lemonade, popcorn and a clean bathroom. How were your 1,299,999 closest friends?

It was good to see how people were enjoying being together, celebrating. But don't worry they'll be giving each other the one finger salute again tomorrow.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Not even true. Stipe got Cleveland a championship a while back.

[Injun, as in from India]

House Democrats, led by former civil rights leader Rep. John Lewis (Ga.) are holding a sit-in in Congress demanding unspecificed gun control legislation.

A sit-in... AGAINST civil rights, not for rights.

[Injun, as in from India]

Let's call it a sh!t-in instead of a sit-in.

[You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)]

Hence former civil rights leader.

[TheZeitgeist]

All sitting around dumb as posts waiting for a woodchipper gun control bill.

[This Machine]

The update at the bottom is the real kicker:

Joe Perticone
@JoePerticone

In a gaggle of 30 reporters, every reporter asked about how "historic" the sit in was.

[Injun, as in from India]

This is the reason why Democrats never have to buy shoe polish.

The media always licks Democrats' boots clean.

[Eternal Blue Sky]

Polish as in from Poland or polish as in something to make something shiny?? Apparently today we aren't just using context to figure it out.

[Rasilio]

they misspelled histrionic

[Injun, as in from India]

Thread winner!

[Lee G]

All the reporters worked for NPR?

[Pay up, Palin's Buttplug!]

Which will, I predict, be used against poor non-white people most.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Donald Trump is trying to get back on message, calling Hillary Clinton a "world-class liar."

The Hillary takedown. It's the one saving grace of a Trump candidacy.

[Doctor Whom]

That and watching progressives foam at the mouth about someone who is in many ways one of them.

[You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)]

They'll scream until they're orange in the face.

[This Machine]

Oh, bravo, sir. Rather well done, quite.

*polite applause*

[Tonio]

Regarding Noor Salman (wife of Omar Mateen) going missing. It's worse than I thought. Apparently she's been missing for five days, and the only thing that changed today us that AG Loretta Lynch admitted that Salman was missing.

And yet congress is engaging in juvenile theatrics instead of subpoenaing administration officials and grilling them.

[Playa Manhattan.]

What a coincidence. My guns just went missing. All of them. I just can't seem to find them anywhere.

[AlmightyJB]

Yes, i lost all mine a long time ago. But if did have any I would certainly follow whatever unconstitutional laws they might come up with.

[This Machine]

Holy Saint Elmo's Ghost, my guns are all. missing. TOO!

It's such a shame, because I was planning on turning them in to the government this very weekend. Ho-hum. I suppose I will have to make other plans.

*googles list of local gun shows*

[thrakkorzog]

Damn, ain't that a bitch? I know I went out hunting, and whoops accidentally dropped all my guns in a lake. Call me Mr. Butterfingers.

[Eternal Blue Sky]

"*googles list of local gun shows*"

Dude, just go get new guns from federal agents trying to set up narcotics stings like everyone else.

[R C Dean]

Now, fellas. You should probably not lose one or two so you have some "throw-down" (or "throw-away") guns to placate the jackboots when they go door-to-door.

[AlmightyJB]

I'm just gonna start giving up names of local politicians who I'm pretty sure are all holding.

[Ted S.]

To be fair, subpoenaing administration officials and grilling them is juvenile theatrics, too.

[Tonio]

Point grudgingly conceded. Harumph!

[Ted S.]

I have to admit that I think the only people Congress should be allowed to subpoena are those in the various branches of government. It's just that when such people do testify before Congress, it's still juvenile grandstanding.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

I do not support grilling admimistration officials. You would never get the smell out of your grill.

[Krabappel]

Is there any marinade/rub that makes that taste good?

[R C Dean]

I hear tar and feathers is the traditional recipe.

[The Last American Hero]

Tar is boiled, not grilled.

[Scarecrow & WoodChipper Repair]

Usually not. The traditional tar was pine tar, liquid at room temperature.

[Mr Drew]

Waaaaa? Really? Citation requested.

[Scarecrow & WoodChipper Repair]

C'mon, learn to google.

Tarring and feathering was often presented in literature humorously as a punishment inflicting public humiliation and discomfort, but not serious injury. This would be hard to understand if the tar used were the material now most commonly referred to as "tar", which has a high melting point and would cause serious burns to the skin. However, the "tar" used then was pine tar, a completely different substance, with a much lower melting point. Some varieties were liquid at room temperature.

[Injun, as in from India]

They can't keep track of a potential accomplice and/or witness.

But... they will keep track of guns.

[RBS]

Well, no, they can't do that either, remember ?

[tarran]

congress is engaging in juvenile theatrics

We're talking professional politicians, here. The intelligent ones are venal and corrupt. The majority of them are high functioning people suffering from Antisocial Behavioral Disorder or Narcissistic Personality Disorder, and have poor impulse control and a propensity for juvenile theatrics. So this behavior is inevitable.

[Fist of Etiquette]

The Feds have her. She knew that the FBI was egging him on. YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST. (Unless it turns out not to be true. Then you heard it somewhere else.)

[Tonio]

Even before anyone posted it here, one of my early thoughts was that this was another FBI setup that didn't go as planned. But thanks to whoever used the term "catch and release," that was excellent.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Catch and release enables other FBI agents to enjoy our natural resources.

[You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)]

I do like the conspiracy theory that the administration is making sure she goes missing, because her testimony would be way too embarrassing to the FBI.

[Tonio]

[passes tinfoil to MJG]

[PBR Streetgang]

How long before they find hear dead from a "self-inflicted" gunshot?

[You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)]

They'll find her and start an interview, at which point she will charge at FBI agents, forcing them to shoot her to death. Like that accomplice to the Tsarnaev brothers.

[Fist of Etiquette]

There will only be a single agent in the room, regardless of official policy.

[Tonio]

MJG, pass the foil to Fist when you're done, please.

[You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)]

I, uh... I had half a sandwich leftover from lunch, so...

[Pay up, Palin's Buttplug!]

Multiple self-inflicted gunshot wounds to the head.

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

I'm pretty sure the Justice Department is just trolling at this point. Between this and the whole redaction incident, there's no other logical explanation.

Unless they truly are that incompetently clueless.

[Tonio]

Shriek informed me that the redactions and edited transcript were just wingbagger teanut idiocy.

[Libertymike]

Don't you feel good about being so well informed?

[waffles]

Congress is pulling the I'm going to hold my breath until I get ice cream trick. Let's see how it pays off for them.

[thrakkorzog]

I said it earlier, but I wouldn't mind the whole security theater so much if they actually caught the bad guys every once in a while. I wouldn't be thrilled about it, but at least they get results.

Instead we just have this fucked up Orwellian state where the feds know what books you've read and how long you spend on the phone with your friends, but when it comes to an actual accomplice to a terrorist act, they can't be bothered to keep track of her.

[GILMORE?]

""demanding unspecificed gun control legislation.""

What do we want ! ""UNSPECIFIED!""
When do we want it! ""EVENTUALLY!""

[A Cynic's Guide to Zen]

"We will not rest until the idea of guns are thoroughly explained to us, and we become convinced that guns CANNOT kill people independent of human beings."

[arbitrary wavefunction]

relevant

[Tuan Jim]

"What do we want?" "Fry's dog!"

"When do we want it?" "Fry's dog!"

[Playa Manhattan.]

"demanding unspecificed gun control legislation."

So... How is this different than any other time?

[Fist of Etiquette]

House Democrats, led by former civil rights leader Rep. John Lewis (Ga.) are holding a sit-in in Congress demanding unspecificed gun control legislation.

A sit-in? This would be the House version of stomping your feet?

[Tonio]

Careful, congresscritters, most of us (here) are actually happy when you do nothing.

[Eternal Blue Sky]

Well don't tell them!!

[commodious spittoon]

Hold it, men, they're not bluffing!

[Fist of Etiquette]

Former rival presidential candidate and fellow senator Ted Cruz said he's "glad" to endorse him.

Thanks but no thanks.

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

House Democrats, led by former civil rights leader Rep. John Lewis (Ga.) are holding a sit-in in Congress demanding unspecificed gun control legislation.

Well, i hope, as in Lewis's Civil Rights days, some cops showed up and kicked some skulls.

[Injun, as in from India]

He's in the house and demanding gun control.

Should he demand that the Sergeant-at-Arms now be called Sergeant-Who's-Disarmed?

[Doctor Whom]

Different rules apply to them (ch. 1,987,238).

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

Hmm...

And lest there be any confusion, that comment was merely juvenile bluster and hyperbole and in no way intended to represent a true threat. Should be obvious, but i know the subtleties of language can sometimes be lost on self-important government officials.

[Injun, as in from India]

Marco Rubio says he's running for re-election to the Senate after all. Former rival presidential candidate and fellow senator Ted Cruz said he's "glad" to endorse him.

What happened to the Gang (Bang) of 8?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Former House Speaker Dennis Hastert reported to prison today for a 15-month sentence related to paying hush money to victims he molested.

OBJECTION! Molestation was not the crime he was convicted of.

[Juvenile Bluster]

Objection overruled. He didn't say Hastert was going to prison for molestation, but rather for paying hush money.

[Fist of Etiquette]

OBJECTION! Buggering the witness. Supposing facts not in evidence. That hush money could have been for any number of penis-related things.

[Juvenile Bluster]

You're out of line, FoE. One more outburst like that and I'll have you hauled into Warty's basement for contempt.

[RBS]

You're out of order! This whole trial is out of order!

[Fist of Etiquette]

The vending machine in the lobby is out of order!

[tarran]

Are we sure it was molestation, and not some legitimate coaching?

Maybe Hastert was teaching him how to do the Saturday Night Ride. It's possible that Hastert's enthusiasm in sharing his knowledge so dominated his mind that he failed to notice that he was naked at the time.

[R C Dean]

It presents "victims he molested" as a fact. Unless he confessed to that, I think it needs an "allegedly".

[Playa Manhattan.]

Do you know else was a gun owner on an FBI watch list?

[Juvenile Bluster]

MLK. (Love you Iowahawk)

[Tonio]

Niiiice.

[Eternal Blue Sky]

Haha, new angle to attack the gun control measures on...

"Politicians want laws to allow them to disarm people like MLK!!"

[Tonio]

Actually, you should try that. It also dovetails nicely with the prog narrative that 2A was included so that white slaveowners could put down slave rebellions. Seriously, they say that. Use it agin' 'em.

[Juvenile Bluster]

Wait, what? There are progs that seriously argue that?

[Tonio]

Lee Harvey Oswald, Sir?

[Injun, as in from India]

John Lennon of Imagine infamy?

[Rufus The Monocled]

I'll never forgive him for that song even as he sleeps six feet under.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Diane Feinstein.

[Playa Manhattan.]

You are absolutely correct.

[Tonio]

How the fuck did she end up on a watchlist? Was she a radical back in college?

[RBS]

I'd be willing to bet the feds keep tabs on everyone on the Hill.

[Playa Manhattan.]

She was wiretapped by the FBI. Something related to Israel, IIRC.

[Playa Manhattan.]

Sorry, I'm confusing that with the CIA wiretap.

[Eternal Blue Sky]

How could you possibly confuse the two?? EVERYONE knows that the CIA never operates within the country's borders, and the FBI never operates outside of it!! /NEVER/

[Tonio]

More like the CIA never operates within the country's laws, and the FBI never operates outside it unless there's a really, really good reason.

[Tonio]

^The above comment is merely adolescent snark and not to be taken as serious criticism of our fine intelligence service or national law enforcement agency.

[Crusty Juggler]

More like Dianne Finestein, am I right?

[Fist of Etiquette]

No, I looked it up. It actually is spelled Feinstein. (Two n's in Dianne, though.)

[Crusty Juggler]

I was saying that she was fine, as in sexy, beautiful, very attractive, and gorgeous.

[Ted S.]

What does fein mean in German?

[Rufus The Monocled]

Die, Bart, Die?

[rts]

Fine.

[(((Renegade)))]

What does fein mean in German?

Jewess.

[AlmightyJB]

Like Darth Sidious?

[waffles]

Exactly like that.

[bacon-magic]

You're out of order!

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Crusty, no. Just no. I have to draw a line here. Thou shalt not would.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

Crusty is turned on by leather and the sound of a cracking pelvis.

[Fist of Etiquette]

I was saying that...

Explaining your joke instead of getting mine? So I guess it turns out Crusty is easy in more ways than one.

[Crusty Juggler]

I got your joke, and my joke was that I was explaining my joke to you. Have a little more faith in me, Fist. I am not one of the typical uncultured hit and run miscreants.

[AlmightyJB]

You guys are a regular Burns and Allen. Yes, Crusty we know you're Gracie.

[Crusty Juggler]

We are a much more masculine Garfunkel and Oates.

[AlmightyJB]

Cage match Garfunkle v Oates v Gracie Allen. My money is on Gracie.

[Ted S.]

John Oates, or Warren Oates?

[Crusty Juggler]

I do not have 1/64th of the masculinity that Warren Oates possessed.

[thrakkorzog]

Ted Kennedy?

[GILMORE?]

North Korea Considering More-Modern Approach to Science = "PEOPLE "NOT SHOT" FOR FAILURES"

"Humans grow by eating food and science flourishes amidst failures" North Korea's state-run newspaper Rodong Sinmun quoted Kim as telling scientists who knelt before him after a failed rocket launch in April 2012.

Experts note = there are still many other reasons that the same people can/will be shot.

[R C Dean]

Humans grow by eating food and science flourishes amidst failures

That's . . . impressively gibberish-ish.

[Eternal Blue Sky]

"Humans grow by eating food and science flourishes amidst failures"

It's probably a language thing, but how are those two things even tangentially related??

[GILMORE?]

You could ask, but then you'd get shot

[Rhywun]

It's North Korea - just nod and smile.

[Overt]

In other words, Food is to Human Growth as Failure is to Scientific Growth.

[Atanarjuat]

Subtle dig at Dear Leader for being a fattie?

[rts]

Empty home tax coming to Vancouver

Mayor Gregor Robertson has announced Vancouver will move forward on taxing empty homes as the affordability crisis grows larger and rental vacancy rates shrink to unprecedented lows.

The city's report states the preferred option is for the provincial government to create and administer a new class of "residential vacant" property through BC Assessment. The designation would trigger the city to charge extra taxes on empty or under-occupied investment properties.

Remember in Dr. Zhivago when they just took the house, because it was being "under-occupied"? Almost there, man.

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

No one needs a house with more than one room!

[Zeb]

No one needs a house at all. No one needs anything. We can all just sit here until we die from thirst.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Sanders: Hey, that's MY idea!

[Mr Drew]

No one needs more than one idea

[This Machine]

I foresee no possible unintended consequences happening as a result of this.

[Illocust]

"under-occupied" Jeez that's a scary thought. They already outlaw in many places how many people you can have maximum. Now they are going to put a minimum on there too. That's just all sorts of lovely.

[R C Dean]

Underoccupied houses are owned by the rich. That means well-connected, and that means ain't nuthin' gonna happen to them.

[Pay up, Palin's Buttplug!]

No, it means if you aren't rich, famous, connected, or something similar, you can't have a spare bedroom for guest or to use as an office, hobby room, game room, etc.

This is another one of those laws that fucks people who have just enough to be a little bit more than most but not enough more to send a big fuck you to the government.

[GILMORE?]

In unrelated "Lions Ain't that Rare" news

Man Snatches Child From Maw of Mountain Lion

Finally, someone with "World's Best Dad" coffee-cup that isn't a douche.

[Playa Manhattan.]

I'm not great with Russian names, but it sounds like the mom did it.

[grrizzly]

Yep, it was the mom. The AP story is very poorly written, it's easy to get confused.

[RBS]

The mother was a mountain lion?

[Playa Manhattan.]

No picture provided. I can't tell if she was a cougar.

[Sir Digby Chicken Caesar]

Well, snatch stories are the best.

[GILMORE?]

BUT DAD WAS IN THE HEADLINE BROS BEFORE HO'S

[Hyperion]

Did he have a permit for that? Is the mountain lion ok? Did it have a name?

/leftist derp

[GILMORE?]

ARREST THE MOM!!

[Chip Woodier]

Cecil the Mountain Lion loved humans...

[BigT]

For dinner?

[WhatAboutBob]

Scott Adams of Dilbert fame says gun control cannot be solved in the USA:

But we do know that race and poverty are correlated. And we know that poverty and crime are correlated. And we know that race and political affiliation are correlated. Therefore, my team (Clinton) is more likely to use guns to shoot innocent people, whereas the other team (Trump) is more likely to use guns for sporting and defense.

That's a gross generalization. Obviously. Your town might be totally different.

So it seems to me that gun control can't be solved because Democrats are using guns to kill each other ? and want it to stop ? whereas Republicans are using guns to defend against Democrats. Psychologically, those are different risk profiles. And you can't reconcile those interests, except on the margins. For example, both sides might agree that rocket launchers are a step too far. But Democrats are unlikely to talk Republicans out of gun ownership because it comes off as "Put down your gun so I can shoot you."

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/1.....in-the-usa

[lap83]

excellent trolling

[waffles]

Except I noticed he had turned off commenting. To be fair the trumptardation was reaching dangerous levels. So far we've been pretty safe here. Though it is an infection that can spread vigorously once a vector is introduced. Meditation and exercise are probably the best inoculations.

[Mr Lizard]

THE LOUD ONE WITH THE SENTIENT HAIR SHALL RULE YOU ALL*

*till we take over

[Eternal Blue Sky]

His comment section a few days ago had devolved into nothing but actual racists and people pretending to be actual racists trolling the hell out of everything. He's said he's turning it off until he can find an alternate comment section that can give more administrative control.

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

Well played, sir.

[Illocust]

That's a ridiculously fun little article. Thanks for the share.

[commodious spittoon]

"Put down your gun so I can shoot you."

Isn't that, in the long run, precisely what it's all about?

[commodious spittoon]

If we had a real government ? the kind that works ? we would acknowledge that gun violence is not one big problem with one big solution. It is millions of people with different risk profiles voting their self-interest as they see it.

He cuts right through the typical proggy fetishizing of guns as talismans exerting a terrible will on their benighted owners. Yes, the problem is poverty. The black swan events like the many mass shooting we can name are drops in the bucket when it comes to homicides, and less still if we include suicide in the same constellation of poverty-related outcomes. We cannot prevent mass shooting events unless we embrace mass disarmament, which won't happen, and even then, as the routine atrocities in Europe demonstrate, it's no guarantee of anyone's safety.

We can, however, focus on alleviating poverty to keep urchins in the gutters from gunning one another down. We can focus on reducing violence in the black market trade by diminishing the need for black markets. The problem is, these things are largely a problem for Democrats, who adamantly refuse to address their terrible records in running the cities in which most of this violence occurs.

[commodious spittoon]

For Democrats, it's much more politically lucrative (in money as well as prestige) to deny any basic problem with their socioeconomic policies and blame the high rates of crime on external factors, mostly Republicans being meanies and somehow, despite holding few positions of power, exerting an outsized influenced over politics.

So Scott is wrong in one sense: gun violence does have a single, overarching problem, though he's correct in that the solution is neither easy nor probable: the problem is Democrats, and the solution is ousting them from their seats of power. Much like mass disarmament, it's just not going to happen.

[Scarecrow & WoodChipper Repair]

I don't think it's poverty so much as opportunity.

Some people are truly lazy and want everything handed to them on a platter, toot sweet, and will likely always be criminals.

I think most people don't mind starting poor as long as they can see a path to building their experience and job skills.

That's what's wrong with minimum wage laws, occupational licensing, and so on -- they remove the opportunity, and that's what causes the real stagnation and despair and people just giving up and holding out their hand for government handouts.

[commodious spittoon]

That's why the indictment of Democratic policies. All of those things are planks in their economic policy. Their policies preserve and perpetuate poverty. You're right, being poor does not by itself guarantee a person resorts to crime; but maintaining that poverty and preventing escape for a good chunk of the population guarantees many people will choose it out of frustration. Opportunism only explains particular incidents, while sustained poverty explains the rationale.

Dems have a lot to answer for, but from the look of it their constituents will never bother asking.

[Rhywun]

Well said both of you.

[Knarf Yenrab!]

I came here to post this. The more I read Adams, the more I realize how right he is about basically everything, which is why the world is ruled by blowhards who propound craziness while the gimlet-eyed realists retreat to Twain, Smith, and Daniels for solace.

I'm thinking that he should start an online program--let's call it Adams University--instructing people in the science of persuasion.

[BigT]

"while the gimlet-eyed realists retreat to Twain, Smith, and JACK Daniels for solace"

I assume that was an oversight.

[arbitrary wavefunction]

Ted Cruz votes for giving FBI access to browser histories w/o warrant. Mark Levin hardest hit.

Actually, no. He'll defend it as an awesome constitutional idea.

[Ted S.]

This probably belongs over in the Brexit thread.

[arbitrary wavefunction]

Ha. That looks like something John Oliver would come up with if he wasn't a moron.

[AlmightyJB]

Damn, maybe we should join the EU. Who doesn't want to fly like an eagle.

[Playa Manhattan.]

This is America. I want to fly like a fucking space shuttle. Even one of the ones that exploded.

[This Machine]

Speaking of fucking space shuttles...

[Sir Digby Chicken Caesar]

I've tried, several times, to figure out who Zlad's keytarist is, but can't ever find anything.

Anyone around here know?

oh, and, excellent post, Machine.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Dimitri Martin?

[Sir Digby Chicken Caesar]

Demetri wishes he was that hot. And, a purple wig won't help.

But, +1 Arf Arf

[RBS]

Playa "Challenger" Manhattan.

[Rufus The Monocled]

I think that's gonna be his nickname here on in!

[Injun, as in from India]

On the media's Democrat bias:

Chaka Fattah gets convicted big time... but hey! look - there's a historic sit-in to attack people's natural rights!

Nets Silent on Corruption Conviction of Democratic House Representative

[Tonio]

Good news! Thanks, Injun.

But then there's this, FTFA:

[Tonio]

Well, crap, squirrels ate it. But TFA says that he won't resign his seat in congress.

[RBS]

Of course not.

[Clint Eastwoodchipper]

It's the Democratic Party: he'll get a promotion.

[RBS]

?????

[Hyperion]

Major Clinton donor. The guy learned from the pros.

[__Warren__]

Chaka Chaka con....vincted!

[The Fusionist]

I think I saw Chaka Fattah in the Los Eisley cantina.

[Slumbrew]

His hair was perfect...

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

No mention of Guccifer 2.0 leak, either. Not even to insist that the stuff hasn't been authenticated.

[Unicorn Abattoir]

His wife (Renee Chennault) used to be a news anchor here in Philly.

[commodious spittoon]

Gallagher also reported that Fattah, "took out an illegal $1 million loan from a former banking exec to fund a failed campaign to become Philly's mayor, back in 2007."

Bank executive!? Fattah was a victim of predatory lending!

[GILMORE?]

Pentagon Confused Why Various Parties in Syrian Civil War Still Not United Behind American-Priorities

[waffles]

That reads a bit like an onion headline.

[GILMORE?]

that's the idea

[waffles]

I didn't click the link and though Reuters printed it as such. Silly me.

[Injun, as in from India]

Has anyone posted this yet? Quadrupling of membership!

LGBT gun rights group sees membership skyrocket after Orlando shooting

Pink Pistols has 35 active chapters across the U.S., and nationally, its Facebook membership has increased from 1,500 before the shooting to about 6,500 as of Monday afternoon, spokeswoman Gwendolyn Patton said. That hike has encouraged some and worried others.

[Zeb]

I wonder if the Facebook bump will translate to more people buying guns and materially supporting the gun rights group?

[You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)]

Also wonder how many of the new facebook members are actually gay, and are not just longtime gun owners/activists who have only now heard of the group and want to support it.

[AlmightyJB]

That trend started years ago. At least the buying guns and getting into shooting part.

[bacon-magic]

I support LGBT
Good for them, for realz.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Awesome. Love it. If there is anyone that should support the 2nd Amdt, it should be the LGBT community.

[__Warren__]

Some fags wanna get their hands on some nicely oiled rods, eh?

[Rhywun]

I'm hearing that in Mr. Garrison's voice.

[Illocust]

Makes sense. LGBT community is pretty unique in that they are the only minority that isn't born into a family full of other minorities. Gives them a lot more diversity of thought.

[The Last American Hero]

Nonsense. Included in whatever DNA wiring makes you attracted to the same sex is an attraction to high rates of taxation and big government programs. It's kind of like being black.

[GILMORE?]

File Under = WDATPDIM

The emails, reviewed by The Associated Press, show that State Department technical staff disabled software intended to block phishing emails that could deliver dangerous viruses. They were trying urgently to resolve an apparent conflict between the server's built-in email delivery features with a version of "ScanMail for Exchange" security software from Trend Micro Inc. that had been installed on her server. Clinton has not previously described any security protections on her server.
...
Clinton's campaign has repeatedly denied there is any evidence her private email server ever was breached.

On Jan. 9, 2011, a State Department IT staffer was forced to shut down Clinton's server because he believed "someone was trying to hack us." Later that day, he wrote, "We were attacked again so I shut (the server) down for a few min."

[arbitrary wavefunction]

This is almost unbelievable. I am the unofficial admin of a storage system and there are hundreds of hack attempts a day. And this isn't secret stuff, no high profile characters are storing anything. The internet is just the wild west. Turning off security features is moronic.

[This Machine]

If someone wants to go swinging their cyber-donger around in a cyber-whorehouse without first putting on a cyber-condom, more power to 'em.

Unless, of course, that someone is head of the State Department and responsible for managing incredibly delicate national secrets. Then fuck 'em.

[Clich? Bandit]

One of my favorite little linux tools is Logwatch

See how many attempts you get each day...yay

[__Warren__]

hrc

Take the ascender from the h and put it at the bottom of the counter (making a bowl) and you'll spell orc. Coincidence?

[rts]

ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Why do they refer to "state dept. staffer" when everyone knows who that was.

[__Warren__]

(omitted)

[Illocust]

Whelp, one more fuck up, drip drip goes the scandal. Hopefully Trump will turn up the burn at some point the same way he has on the pay to play.

[R C Dean]

He did that in his speech today. Made the point that you have to assume Russia (and probably others) have her email, including the deleted ones, and are set up to blackmail her ass.

[Pay up, Palin's Buttplug!]

They were trying urgently to resolve an apparent conflict between the server's built-in email delivery features with a version of "ScanMail for Exchange" security software from Trend Micro Inc. that had been installed on her server.

It's not hard to get SMEX and Exchange to get along with each other?

[Ted S.]

Lightning in India killed at least 90 people.

I guess it was a dark and stormy night.

[waffles]

There's a billion of them. Shiva can chuck lightning bolts without aiming and hit one.

[AlmightyJB]

ask the blind man down the hall

[Hyperion]

House Democrats, led by former civil rights leader Rep. John Lewis (Ga.) are holding a sit-in in Congress demanding unspecificed gun control legislation

Aww, isn't that so cute and precious, little tantrum throwing toddlers, except they're mostly 60 years old or more. Disgusting. Sit there until you rot.

[AlmightyJB]

looks like Fox finally deciding to back Trump

http://www.foxnews.com/politic.....tcmp=hpbt1

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Is anyone surprised?

[Hyperion]

At least some of them have been backing Trump for a while. Hannity is a real Trump sycophant for sure.

Anyway, If we could just get rid of the NRA and Republicans, there wouldn't be any radical Islam.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Sanders[...]

WHO?!

[waffles]

He's the guy who doesn't like ice cream flavors and deodorant.

[AlmightyJB]

Which is why Bernie's Yearning is also known as Stinky Sanders

[R C Dean]

Trump gives one of the most savage attacks on a rival candidate in decades in this country, and it barely gets a bullet in the PM Links?

C'mon, HyR. It was a daylight mugging of an odious politician. Let's revel in it a little more!

[Clich? Bandit]

and it was?

I try not to leave my echo chamber...makes the progressives twitchy.

[Crusty Juggler]

I was too busy explaining delicious sandwiches to the uncultured. Someone has to do it, I guess.

*sigh*

[Krabappel]

Pastrami on rye with swiss cheese, spicy mustard and sauerkraut? *stomach rumbles*

[EdWuncler]

So the lesson of the day is, fuck the 5th Amendment.

Sigh

[dajjal]

I'm honestly more scared of the federal government than ISIS terrists.

[AlmightyJB]

As well you should be

[The Fusionist]

Let me put it this way:

The feds make all sorts of promises which are obviously lies.

ISIS says it wants to kill me unless I join their brand of Islam, and I believe they are sincere in this.

[AlmightyJB]

Looking at the odds of a deadly encounter, I would say 1,000,000 to 1, Government over Terrorist.

[Ted S.]

The feds make all sorts of promises which are obviously lies.

Do the feds ever tell the truth?

[commodious spittoon]

Lightning in India killed at least 90 people.

Christ, they really do pack them in there.

[Cyto]

Perhaps more remarkable, they were disparate strikes around the country. Mostly farmers working in their fields as the monsoons arrive, getting their planting in.

I saw the headline and thought of a huge lightning strike at a football or cricket stadium. But 90 people around the country all in one day. Wow.

[commodious spittoon]

Even ninety in a crowded area would... somewhat strain credulity.

[You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)]

This guy gets it:

@seanmdav i'm calling semi-automatic machines machine guns. You don't get to pick my terms. Your NRA buzzwords don't apply to me

[AlmightyJB]

Some pretty funny replies

[You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)]

@seanmdav @JasonLaCanfora Weird that a child molester has over 500k followers. "Child molester" is what I call TV analysts.

[Playa Manhattan.]

i'm calling linebackers quarterbacks. you don't get to pick my terms. your nfl insider buzzwords don't apply to me

[Playa Manhattan.]

Trent ?@tmarsh83
Meet my dog Herman.

[Accompanied by picture of chicken]

[EdWuncler]

Facts are a tool of the patriarchy.

I've had a couple of gun grabbers say this to me when I tell them the difference between certain guns and the correct terminology. It's all about the feels.

[R C Dean]

i'm calling semi-automatic machines pasta strainers. You don't get to pick my terms. Your gun control buzzwords don't apply to me

What a moron. "I'm wrong, I know I'm wrong, I'm going to keep being wrong, and there's not a damn thing you can do about it."

[Juvenile Bluster]

The replies are great.

LaCanfora's enough of an idiot when he sticks to football. Right now he's having a meltdown of epic proportions.

Jason La Canfora ?@JasonLaCanfora 26m26 minutes ago
@seanmdav save your bought-and-paid-for rhetoric for a brainwashed sheep who might buy the talking points. Go home. You're not welcome here

[EdWuncler]

It's great to see gun grabbers go into meltdown mode when they don't get what they want.

[__Warren__]

Proudly incompetent!

[Sir Digby Chicken Caesar]

Since "terms" aren't of consequnce to this guy, can someone re-write his Twat bio to read, "failed: opinionated sportscaster, husband, and athlete"?

I mean, he even says, "in no particular order", so he'd be good with that revision, right?

[dschwar]

Even when government officials see something, they don't do anything.

So they seize the weaponry but let him go to his cubicle with no additional searching or questioning for 1.5 hours. Why would anyone believe Top.Men can do something right?

[Playa Manhattan.]

Workplace violence? Yeah, a 75 mile commute will do that to you.

[Playa Manhattan.]

I first learned of the congressional sit it from........ The Sierra Club's Facebook page.

But this totally isn't about partisan politics.

[RBS]

I learned of it from a picture a friend an acquaintance someone I met several years ago posted of Elizabeth Warren posing with other Senators.

[Playa Manhattan.]

That I can understand.

But the Sierra Club? Did Yosemite National Park get shot in the face with an assault rifle?

[GILMORE?]

You seem surprised? The Sierra Club stopped being a "conservation"-oriented org. and became 100% a partisan liberal propaganda arm.... like back in the 1990s.

(*i was mr mountain-climbing REI employee for a while back then, and they were generally seen as "allies" for the Promoting Wilderness Access crowd; but in the early 2000s they basically went 100% 'global warming' and partisan scaremongering)

Apparently they started raking in big political bucks in the late 1990s and now are nothing more than an arm of progressive politics hardly distinguishable from the SEIU or MediaMatters.

This guy's name popped up in a quick google, and he might have something to do with it =

McGinn is credited with increasing the "clout" of the Sierra Club, helping transform it into a "real political force" in Seattle. According to McGinn, the club's political committee was "moribund" when he volunteered to lead it in the mid-1990s. The group grew to 50 active political leaders by 2009.[5]

[B.P.]

It occurs to me that today is the 75th anniversary of Operation Barbarossa.

[AlmightyJB]

I'm partial to Operation Barbarella

http://cdn.moviestillsdb.com/s.....arella.jpg

[__Warren__]

Operation Barbarino for me.

[Crusty Juggler]

Up your nose with a rubber hose.

[__Warren__]

In your spleen with a bottle of Mr. Clean!

[Crusty Juggler]

Down your gizzard with a rubber lizard!

[Playa Manhattan.]

"We must be headlights, not taillights. We can't continue to stick our heads in the sand and ignore the reality of mass gun violence." ?Rep. John Lewis

The Democrats were driving the car just 7 years ago, and now they're just the taillights. How did this happen?!?!?

[Knarf Yenrab!]

When did "mass gun violence" become something that presumably sentient human beings said out loud?

What does the phrase even mean? Are the guns massing against humanity in some sort of animistic conspiracy and/or disproportionately targeting faithful Catholics?

[Playa Manhattan.]

It means they've always wanted your guns and they think that this is their chance.

[Ted S.]

Oh dear, you've lit the Eddie signal.

[Ted S.]

"We must be headlights, not taillights. We can't continue to stick our heads in the sand and ignore the reality of mass gun violence." ?Rep. John Lewis

They turn the engine, but the engine doesn't turn.

[Crusty Juggler]

John, you're a spotlight of pointless retardation.

[Crusty Juggler]

A penlight of futility.

[B.P.]

Did anyone get a chance to see the gun control portion of the Charlie Rose Show last night? His panel consisted of a pro-gun control writer from the Washington Post, and a really pro-gun control guy from the New Yorker who penned an article called "Making a Killing". A bunch of imperious talking heads wondering out loud why calls for gun control drive increased gun sales.

[__Warren__]

Thankfully, no.

But it's easy to imagine their confusion about why the lesser folk won't listen to them.

[Playa Manhattan.]

Didn't catch it. I must have been at the gun store.

[GILMORE?]

His panel consisted of a pro-gun control writer from the Washington Post, and a really pro-gun control guy from the New Yorker

So, a representative sample of the range of acceptable-opinion, then.

[GILMORE?]

this is exactly what my friends don't understand, btw. there's a bubble-world mentality in the NYC world where this REALLY IS how people think. "A WaPo and New Yorker writer... well, who else's POV could possibly matter!?"

I suppose its not limited to NY, but its this sort of urban-liberal-middle-class provincialism that assumes "but I don't know *anyone* who owns a gun?!? Clearly no one supports this stuff". Its just a completely different POV about what the 'boundaries' of 'extreme-views' are.

And "extreme" from their POV isn't "Fox News" (*which is more of a non-entity which is simply disregarded as a mouthpiece for reactionary yokels); its more anything that dares to suggest that maybe, just maybe, they actually *don't know everything*

[Playa Manhattan.]

I'm seeing a ton of Bullshit (capital B) from a lot of my friends from college. They all live in SF, and never go out of that bubble.

[EdWuncler]

Whenever black folks from the Southside of Chicago wants less gun restrictions, the white progressives in the city are baffled. Like they don't understand that many of these people don't feel safe in their neighborhoods and want have an equalizer in case some asshole wants to harm them.

[GILMORE?]

Like they don't understand that many of these people don't feel safe in their neighborhoods and want have an equalizer in case some asshole wants to harm them

And/or - they are much more intimately familiar with the reality of "how laws work" and "who they're enforced against".

They can be damn sure its not going to be some white college kid whose life is ruined for owning a gun. the bulk of the prosecutions are going to be "where the cops are", which is in *their* neighborhoods. Naturally upper-middle class white people LOVE the "idea" of laws. Because in their POV they reap all the benefits, and none of the costs.

Whereas poorer people in black neighborhoods tend to be more aware that "laws have costs"

[commodious spittoon]

I'll bet they're equally confused by all the "regressive" homos who now want to start carrying. They're compromising the intersectionality narrative!

[Pat (PM)]

there's a bubble-world mentality in the NYC world where this REALLY IS how people think. "A WaPo and New Yorker writer... well, who else's POV could possibly matter!?"

The "But everybody I know voted for McGovern!" anecdote is coming up on 45 years old. This is hardly a new phenomenon. It's also the orthodox thinking of the entire Reason editorial staff and a plurality of the commentariat.

[commodious spittoon]

It's not about winning 30-40% of the field in a densely-populated race. It's about losing 60+% of the field while having little appeal across the aisle.

[BigT]

NYC is the most provincial place in the country.

[Playa Manhattan.]

So, if I understand it correctly:

There was a proposed bill that would have passed the Senate. The proposed bill would have prevented people on the terrorist watchlist from buying a gun. The Senate Democrats refused to vote for cloture on the bill BECAUSE it contained a provision to protect due process. Again, this is a bill that would have passed with bipartisan support, and the Dems killed it. No other bill was passed or could have been passed.

And now, the House Dems are having a "sit in", hashtag #disarmhate? Sorry, I mean a "historic" sit in.

Am I understanding this correctly?

[commodious spittoon]

But... but that would mean Democrats are exploiting a tragedy!

*hastily roots around for shocked face*

[Playa Manhattan.]

They fucked up. The bodies aren't warm anymore.

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

That about sums it up

[Lee G]

It's an election year and the Democrats will do anything to avoid talking about their criminal lowlife of a candidate. So I expect more bullshit about guns, bathrooms, abortions, and every other wedge issue between now and November.

[Lee G]

Case in point

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027942465

[commodious spittoon]

democraticunterground

*yawns sleepily*

[BigT]

You can't say "democraticunterground"
without cunt

[Derpetologist]

Today, a mob of Egyptian Muslims looted and burned the homes of 80 Christians because of a rumor that they were planning to build a church.

Blah blah blah Crusades blahblahblah 1.6 billion Muslims blahblahblah Timothy McVeigh blahblahblah abortion clinic bombings blahblahblah Spanish Inquisition blahblahblah Donald Trump.

[GILMORE?]

aka = Wednesday

[commodious spittoon]

Was just listening to Neil deGrasse Tyson extol his high school, and by extension the New York public school system, for having graduated eight future Nobel prize winners. Now, aside from the fact that New York is the exception to every rule, you have to wonder how many future convicts, welfare dependents, or low-life grifters they graduated or failed to graduate.

[commodious spittoon]

There's a certain logic to his point, though. A thousand New York murderers won't affect my life much, probably, because their impact is confined to a few families apiece. But a Nobel scientist who revolutionizes some discipline may well have a considerable impact on my life. So the ratio is almost meaningless as far as net worth in human capital is concerned.

But he's making his comments as though public schooling is the only reason those Nobel prize winners achieved what they did, that only the New York system of public education could have wrought such useful material from the dross of humanity. He's praising the system, because he's a lefty, and in many ways a useful idiot of the left, because it's what's expected of high-ranking progressive personalities. In that sense, their failure-to-success rate kinda matters, since public schooling is not the only and in many was an inferior source of communal education.

[GILMORE?]

Which of the highest-end magnet schools did he attend?

ah, Bronx Science.

The NYC magnet schools are as similar to the "regular NYC school system" as SEAL Team 6 is to a middle-aged-mens' paintball club.

[BigT]

So his argument is really a school choice or voucher argument.

Or, Get the smart kids away from the thugs.

[Azathoth!!]

No. His argument is 'public schools are great--but they need more money'. Neil deGrasse Tyson is a moronic planetarium tech.

If the left wasn't trying to push diversity in science no one would know who he is.

[Derpetologist]

Houthi rebels in Yemen hit US-built Abrams tank from Saudi Army. It blows up real good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0nDHV_mkiY

Apparently the export version doesn't have the extra armor. An Abrams costs about $4 million. 10 Kornet rockets and a launcher cost about $1 million. So for $1 million worth of anti-tank weapons, you can destroy $40 million worth of tanks. How practical is a weapon when the countermeasure is much cheaper? ISIS destroyed 3 Iraqi Abrams tanks yesterday with similar weapons.

Fun fact: the motto of the Houthis is "god is the greatest, death to America, death to Israel, a curse upon the Jews, victory to Islam."

[Lee G]

Shades of the Soviets in Afghanistan

[waffles]

What a shitty motto I only agree with one part of it.

[BigT]

"...God is....a curse upon the Jews...?

[Derpetologist]

The Marines are pawing through junkyards to find FA-18s to fill the gap caused by the delays in the F-35.

[Lee G]

They ought to string up the people responsible for that clusterfuck; contractors, brass, congresscritters, civil service, etc..

[John]

You forgot Congress.

[Ted S.]

What part of "congresscritters" don't you understand? :-p

[Crusty Juggler]

NATO...

[commodious spittoon]

Something tells me someday they'll be pawing through junkyards of hardly-used F-35s to find mementos.

[Ted S.]

For some reason I was reminded of this.

[commodious spittoon]

Rather than a suave flight-jacketed young man it's some balding, paunchy slob representing the American taxpayer.

[Ted S.]

Perhaps if we weren't in so many wars the Marnies wouldn't need so many planes.

(That's what an air force is for, anyway.)

[Tuan Jim]

AF can't take off from a carrier.

[John]

If you are a housewife in Texas and start a Tea Party group, the IRS and FBI show up at your door. This, however, is just a fakes scandal.

http://freebeacon.com/issues/m.....ion-donor/

[Ted S.]

Got a link for the former?

[commodious spittoon]

A housewife with anti-government sympathies may be using her non-profit to cheat the government out of its fair share, so she deserves extra scrutiny.

The Clinton foundation always pays its fair share. All those amended tax returns say so.

[Chip Woodier]

Link check, please.

[AlmightyJB]

scary shit.

[Zeb]

It's amazing how many people just assume that VW did something terrible in terms of pollution. The rigged cars probably polluted less in their lifetime than a big truck does in a day.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Holy crap the comments are vicious!

It's delicious in a good way.

Gore, greens and the government seriously have to go fuck themselves. Fucking opportunistic parasites. One and all.

[Mickey Rat]

They were at the point where meeting the NOx standards meant reducing fuel efficiency, because higher fuel efficiency means more complete combustion of fuel, which means higher exhaust temperatures, which means more NOx created.

There are tradeoffs.

[commodious spittoon]

So... I can maybe pick up a new 2015 VW on the cheap?

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

Or less than Al Gore does with a few private jet flights to lecture us about how we should hand wash our clothes.

[Libertymike]

Eric Peters is the real deal - he has nothing but contempt for beltway "libertarians". He is not too fond of Reason's staff for that matter.

[Libertymike]

No lefty libertarians, like Reason staff, among the commenters.

[Eternal Blue Sky]

"Holy crap the comments are vicious!"

*Looks at comments, first one at random:

"It all happens so fast. Germany a minute ago was the freest coolest place where you could do your thing without issue.

Now their a vermin refugee muslim hellhole up to their eteballs in backwards regs. No nukes. No IC engines. No insulting any tinpot nutbag about his saintly flying squirrel or its off to jail.

150 years ago, half the world was running around naked. Doing their , primitive thing in peace. Then those National Socialist Geopoliticians came around taking pictures. And building them buildings to learn the categoricals and the imperatives. And how to buy clothes. And processed foods.

Is it really progress if you're captured by geographic socialists and religious agencies and national military cabals and forced to civilize or die. To be the more equal pigs that wear clothes, and become literate and cultured pigs. But always swine just the same with no freedom, just a kind of softness and dependency that makes you cling to your societal Stalin roosters like the plucked chickens you've somehow become."

What the fuck did I just read??

[Chipper Morning Wood]

He probably drives around with a smoker, which emits black yokel smug.

[Rufus The Monocled]

I don't know who that is but fuck him too.

[thrakkorzog]

It's perfectly reasonable to know about weird stuff on the internet without wanting to masturbate to it.

[R C Dean]

I guess that's one option, sure.

[DOOMco]

*knocks on door loudly*

[Raven Nation]

Ah, thank you.

[The Last American Hero]

So were the hockey fans from San Jose and Tampa when they started, and the fans from Phoenix, Dallas, and Florida (Miami) Panthers.

[Libertymike]

Why do you have a problem with Eric Peters?

Mr. Peters would not fold like a cheap suit as Matt Welch does when he is guest of Bill Maher.

[Slumbrew]

Stromboli are not sandwiches, you philistine.

[__Warren__]

The guy from Pinocchio?

[Slumbrew]

And, goddamit, now I want a calzone.

[AlmightyJB]

Yeah, that's more of a meat pie like an empanada.

[Crusty Juggler]

He probably thinks a Runza is a sandwich, too. I should be surprised, but Minnesota is a strange place.

[Mickey Rat]

Not only that, from what I have heard, the marketing plan for the team is for the tourists to see their home team.play there. They would be asking for a hostile crowd.

[Libertymike]

Tor Libertarian is the site's Agile Cyborg.

[Tonio]

M*ry St*ck?

[Rufus The Monocled]

I know. It's an Agilistic comment.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Yeah, I'm skeptical. I was listening to their pitch and I couldn't quite grasp how hockey in the desert is gonna work; it's already struggling in Phoenix. I can't shake the feeling the marketing will be more of a more 'Celine' and 'Cirque du Soleil' attraction than hockey per se. I could be wrong. We'll see I guess.

[Rufus The Monocled]

I'm angry today.

[Libertymike]

No, presentation of prose.

[Libertymike]

Well, at least you are not so angry as to not see that.

One difference between Tor and AG is that the former is far more prolific.

[The Fusionist]

Why not call it a machine gun, you NRA apologist?

/sarc

[AlmightyJB]

well it was loaded with hollow points which are like thermonuclear warheads.

[Ted S.]

I don't think Bettman wants another franchise in Canada.

[Ted S.]

Pissed that Spain fucked up their group?

[BigT]

Maybe a Porsche. If VW has serious trouble who knows?

[commodious spittoon]

Per the article, there's a huge backlog of inventory they may still be allowed to sell, but if so it's going to come on the heels of the 2017 inventory.