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Has Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson Forgotten About Paris or Kenya or the Second Amendment?

More ignorance from the anti-gun left.

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In the continued effort to use the Orlando shooting to push through new gun control legislation, Homeland Security Jeh Johnson declared that after Orlando gun control has become a "a part of homeland security," even as the shooter in Orlando was an employee of a security firm that's been one of the largest recipients of Homeland Security contracts*.

"We need to do something to minimize the opportunity for terrorists to get a gun in this country," Johnson said.

But countries with stricter gun control laws than in the U.S. are struggling to find something to do to keep guns out of the hands of terrorists too. In Europe, while it may be far harder for law-abiding residents to acquire legal firearms, terrorists are able to acquire actual "weapons of war," automatic weapons, that have are largely banned in the U.S. despite the misleading rhetoric used by the anti-gun left. Neither were tough gun laws able to stop the 2013 radical Islamist attack on the Westgate shopping mall in Kenya or the 2015 attack on Garissa University in Kenya or numerous other terrorist attacks around the world.

If the concern is radical Islamist terrorism, gun control appears more ineffective than usual. It would also be interesting to know why the Obama administration didn't deploy this argument after the 2009 Fort Hood shooting or the 2015 San Bernardino shooting. The Fort Hood shooter was a member of the U.S. military, so could access legal firearms even if guns were otherwise banned in the U.S., while the San Bernardino shooter, also a government employee, acquired his weapons legally in a state, California, with some of the strictest anti-gun laws in the country. They make imperfect pretexts.

This too cute by half approach to categorizations of shootings for the purpose of specific agendas is fairly popular, and so the political arguments surrounding gun control can be frustrating. Definitions are constantly changing to fit narratives. The term "assault rifle," for example, which according to the U.S. Army and Oxford's English Dictionary is a rifle that has an automatic and semi-automatic setting, is used to refer to semi-automatic rifles like the AR-15, itself a brand that's become a metonym for a wide range of rifles. Automatic weapons have largely been banned in the U.S. since the 1930s. That doesn't stop even members of Congress with military backgrounds from lying about what kind of weapons are available legally in the U.S.

There's also the rush to identify the shooter in order to deploy an appropriate narrative. After the San Bernardino shooting in December, some media outlets reported how close the location was to a Planned Parenthood, due to a shooting at a Planned Parenthood in Colorado a few days earlier. Hopefully, no media outlet would be so dense as to do something like that with pointing out how close a shooting might be to a mosque. The definition of mass shootings also depends on the political agenda. If the target is rifles, then a narrower definition is used so that the rifle is overrepresented as the weapon of choice. If the target is guns generally, a broader definition is used to juice the mass shootings number.

In a Daily Beast op-ed, actor George Takei takes this misunderstanding and even willful ignorance of definitions to a new level. In the op-ed, he argues that the LGBTQ community (a diverse community, ethnically, sexually, and politically as well) should adopt gun control as a cause.

After arguing, rightly, that the Orlando shooter's attack on the Pulse night club was an attack on the clubgoers right to associate and to assemble, he says it is fair to ask "What will be done to safeguard our right to associate and assemble?"

Actually, the Founding Fathers thought this one through. The purpose of the Second Amendment, which makes anti-gun advocates' wildest wet dreams unconstitutional and impossible, at least for the time being, is to secure the rights in the First Amendment and elsewhere in the Constitution. In a recent Daily News op-ed, Tom Palmer argued that gay individuals should consider arming themselves, and pointed out that it was gun control advocates who disarmed the clubgoers by designating such establishments as "gun-free zones," which deters only law-abiding people who carry guns to defend themselves and their rights.

As J.D. Tuccille noted in his column yesterday, law enforcement officials are starting to acknowledge the usefulness of gun rights in fighting terrorism aimed at "soft targets." Interpol's secretary general at the time the Nairobi terrorist attack happened, for example, said such attacks made "police around the world question their views on gun control."

"You have to ask yourself, 'Is an armed citizenry more necessary now than it was in the past with an evolving threat of terrorism?' This is something that has to be discussed," he continued. That's the exact opposite tack the Homeland Security secretary is taking.

The U.S. destabilized Iraq, helping to form ISIS, it has demanded more and more power for the federal government to snoop on us and people around the world, has dropped bombs in countless countries, helping to radicalize people abroad and at home. Now, after aggravating the terror threat they want to disarm the population they've put at risk.

*thnaks to commenter VG Zaytsev for pointing out G4S gets Homeland Security contracts. There's so much rank hypocrisy and wilful omission by the left in this debate that it's hard to keep track.

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  1. Of course they haven’t forgotten. They just don’t care. There’s a difference.

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  2. The left all has a sad because it wasn’t a right-wing, Caucasian, religious gun-nut that did the shooting. NPR yesterday decided that the whole thing was caused by the conservative views of many people in Florida. And Trump. Because if you own a gun you obviously hate teh gayz and want to mow them down while they’re dancing.

    Fuck, the stupid on this is getting so dense I’m afraid it may reach sufficient mass to create a singularity.

    1. I think it’s probably already a DERP singularity: a mass of stupidity so dense that logic and reason can’t escape its pull.

      1. Yet the lefts ideas are able to escape, due to their lack of substance.

        *Scott Adams coined this joke.

    2. The left all has a sad because it wasn’t a right-wing, Caucasian, religious gun-nut that did the shooting.

      Don’t worry, some are still trying to paint it that way. In reference to the guy arrested in California, I saw a headline on facebook that was something like, “Here’s the Other Crazy, White Male That Planned to Attack a Gay Pride Parade.” I don’t recall the exact wording and can’t login to check, but it definitely said “other white male,” and the implication was clear.

      1. Oh, you mean the white, Bernie supporting, gay male?

        1. Yeah they memory holed that story in record time when the rapid cascade of facts became too inconvenient.

    3. It’s not so much stupid as it is everyone singing from the orthodox hymnal.

  3. His boss has 7 months left and this seems to be all he cares about. It’s just another form of campaigning since Congress isn’t going to touch it this year.

  4. Well, he’s a little busy these days sneaking jihadis and other “OTMs” into the country in vans in the middle of the night.

  5. The Orlando murderer was employed as an armed guard for a company that did construct work for DHS.

    He was literally one of the top men that leftist believe should have exclusive access to weapons.

    So how exactly would disarming citizens have stopped him? Moreover, why believe that expanded scrutiny of citizens would work when the DHS clearly failed to get their on proxy.

  6. The idiocy is astounding. History has shown, endlessly, that a disarmed populace will eventually be abused by its own government to the point at which bloody revolution occurs or external invasion resets the government. Our Founders knew this and knew it well, thus codifying the necessity for a free people to be individually empowered to the press and the gun. Take away either and the country will fall eventually. History proves this beyond any doubt.

    The only argument for gun-control is that our culture as evolved past violence and that physical force is unnecessary. To claim this is laughably ignorant of recent history in the western world.

    The gun-control proponents therefore either fall into too categories. Ignorant children or calculating
    statists looking to increase control of the sheep. Has to be one or the other…there is no middle ground.

    1. Look. It’s different here. Government is us and we are government. We vote for stuff. That means our government will never abuse us because it is us. All reality-based people know this. Duh.

    2. 100% agree.

      I always like to point out that if humanity has truly evolved, if we’re at that point of no longer needing, or using, violence to achieve any end that the people will voluntarily hand over their weapons without being asked. If this is true on an individual level, it would necessarily follow for the government to do the same and, if anything, the government should go first.

      Such is a true Utopia, after all, if there is in fact any such animal. (There is not, but you’re probably talking to someone that thinks there is.)

      Oh, that ol’ Hobbes. That ol’ Locke.

    3. All one has to do is look at the facts to see the anti-gun left is blowing sunshine up our rears.
      If facts were on their side they would not have to resort to subterfuges like calling certain guns “assault weapons” or “weapons of war” to garner support. They wouldn’t need to resort to distorting history, relying on biased “studies” or outright lying to support their cause.

      The facts show that since the mid 1990s sales of AR-15 type rifles has skyrocketed making it one of the most popular models in the country. The loosening of concealed carry laws since the late 1980s around the country has put more guns on the street in law-abiding hands than ever before – some 12 million of them. The election of the current anti-gun president in 2008 caused a sales surge that almost completely drained the entire supply chain of guns and ammunition (and repeated to some extent in 2012). Yet, since 1993 our murder rate has dropped below what it was in 1964, well before major gun control was enacted. Our violent crime rate has declined too, dropping over 40%.

      The 45-year-old experiment we call gun control has been a spectacular failure overall.

  7. Jeh Johnson

    That’s not his name. You’re fucking with me.

    1. It is, and in a sane world before Islamic supremacist attacks became commonplace on our soil, he would have packed up his desk Monday morning and resigned. Instead it’s our fault because we won’t give him a blank check and because we haven’t agreed to retrofit the 2nd Amendment around his shortcomings. Nobody is more delighted to be having debates about gun control and gay civil rights today than Jeh Johnson.

      1. The God damned department this guy runs literally supplied him with weapons for his job.

        Jeh should be resigning in absolute disgrace.

      2. Nice. And as the kids say today, “on point, man”

  8. The solution is for parents to teach their kids right and wrong. Not “9/11 was a great day” or “Don’t worry about Israel, Allah will take care of them in a year or 2” (San Bernardino) or “God is a Delusion!” (Santa Barbara) or “Christians are Hypocrites!” (Colorado Springs).

  9. 1) Import lots of Muslims.
    2) More restrictions on gun rights.
    3) More government surveillance.
    4) Profit (for statists).

    1. We have to import the immigrants to see what’s in em!
      We need to pass the gun control to see what it does!

      1. We have to import the immigrants to see what’s in em!
        We need to pass the gun control to see what it does!

        good points.
        If it worked for Obamacare, it will work for other policies.
        Life will be so good!

  10. Alt-Text win. I’m calling the alt-text competition for the day over. I don’t think anyone’s topping that. Well done, Ed.

  11. I hear things like this and my only conclusion is that people like Johnson want Americans to die at the hands of terrorists and criminals. There is no other rational explanation.

    I swear to God if a hostile army invaded the country tomorrow, these people’s first response would be to try and disarm the population. There is no point in debating these people anymore. What else is there to say?

    1. John – you read the Z-Man? He has a great post up this morning on our Cultural of Lies. Only the very dumbest believe this guy. The rest of us are supposed to eat this shit and smile as a sign of our obedience.

      http://thezman.com/wordpress/

      1. No but thanks. I put up that quote from Daylrymple during the whole tranny bathroom thing. We are all supposed to conform and affirm our belief in increasingly ridiculous lies.

        That is what drives me most nuts about reason. The staff are the first ones to buy the lies, just so long as they are cloaked in the language of tolerance and stopping bigotry.

    2. I swear to God if a hostile army invaded the country tomorrow, these people’s first response would be to try and disarm the population.

      Of course they would. You wouldn’t want our soldiers mistaking armed Americans for enemy soldiers and then killing them, would you? It would be for the safety of everyone. Besides, it’s not like an armed population has ever held back a military before. That’s a fantasy. Now turn in your weapons and let the government protect you.

      1. Besides, it’s not like an armed population has ever held back a military before.

        The Bonapartist campaign in Spain, calling on line one.

        1. Your sarcasm filter need recalibration.

          1. In my head, it was funny and aware little hop on. On the page, it does appear as if I am unable to detect sarcasm.

  12. Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t the shooter not only pass a Florida background check but also am FBI background check prior to purchasing his gun?

    Wasn’t the guy under FBI surveillance?

    Is this not a government failure?

    1. He had been vetted by the FBI twice. And held opinions that, while vile, are not illegal without any prior action behind them. This is actually how the American system is supposed to work. Assholes who have not yet committed any crimes are not thrown in jail or denied their rights without due process.

      1. I agree with your point. My point is that more “checks” would not have had any effect.

        1. Agreed, but that isn’t the point. This is just another stop over on the road to total disarmament. Everyone knows this, which is why the ‘gun nuts’ routinely talk about how guns are intended to be the last bulwark against a tyrannical government. The reason you don’t see a lefties head explode at the nonsequiter is because they’re fully aware that what they’re trying to do is take all guns, so they don’t bat an eye when the ‘gun nuts’ answer to ‘common sense’ regulation is to talk about a tyranny.

          The lefts argument is entirely subvocal (I.E. lies) whereas the rights argument is fully honest in that regard. The leftists have just learned that saying ‘We’re not trying to take all guns’ mollifies the few useful idiots that don’t understand the joke.

      2. Well, they’ll fix that little oversight…for the good of us all.

    2. That’s why we must DO SOMETHING!

  13. It would also be interesting to know why the Obama administration didn’t deploy this argument after the 2009 Fort Hood shooting or the 2015 San Bernardino shooting.

    1) Not a big enough pile of bodies to make an effective soap box.

    2) The targets weren’t one of their cherished victim groups, so no opportunity to play identity politics and get said victim group fully on board with their gun control wet dreams.

    1. Kind of hard to argue that a U.S. Army Major in good standing should have zero access to firearms.

      – Although it’s almost as nonsensical to argue to same against a supposedly vetted armed security guard.

      1. Also kinda hard to argue that a frickin’ military base should be a gun-free zone.

        Yet Fort Hood was, undoubtedly contributing to the body count.

  14. heres a meme from facebook

    “If a person on the terrorist watch list shouldn’t be allowed to get a gun then why should a person under FBI investigation be allowed to run for president”

    1. Nice.

      If people on the terrorist watch list are so dangerous they shouldn’t own guns, then why are they roaming around free? Shouldn’t they be in internment camps? After all, there are hundreds of devices and substances besides guns that can be made incredibly lethal in the aisles of your average Walmart.

      1. Careful now, you’re awful close to giving them ideas.

        Recall that FDR is one of their heros, after all.

  15. “The Fort Hood shooter was a member of the U.S. military, so could access legal firearms even if guns were otherwise banned in the U.S.”

    I’m not sure I understand where you’re going with this. Is the suggestion that military personnel could legally own personal weapons even if everyone else couldn’t? Or, is the suggestion that military personnel can simply grab a government-issued gun any time they got the urge to shoot a bunch of people?

    Even though he was in the Army, he couldn’t have simply checked out a government-owned weapon any old time he wanted. Also, as a Medical Corps psychiatrist, there is a decent chance that he didn’t even have an assigned weapon. If he did, it almost certainly would have been a 9mm.

    I guess maybe the point is that someone in the military would have somewhat easier access to a gun if they were banned for civilians. That’s a little weak.

    1. Its very weak.

    2. I think the point was that this would have been a bit more bullshit than even the crazies could swallow.

    3. I wonder if it occurred to you that he could kill someone on the base, and then take their fully automatic rifle? There are plenty of guys on guard duty that will have one, and an insider with knowledge of the base shouldn’t have a hard time getting at least one of them compared to trying to locate one in your local Wal-Mart. Especially if you’re the base psychologist, who the 18 year old troops probably trust.

      It isn’t a weak argument, it’s a damn fact. The argument is that if you’re in the military, the odd’s are you will always be able to locate a firearm even if the general populace isn’t allowed to own them. That seems so patently obvious that I think you’ve missed the point entirely.

      1. It did occur to me; I also figured anyone would have similar access by killing a cop. I didn’t read the point from the article as one of being able to locate a firearm. I read it as being about legal access to a firearm.

        So, yes the guns would be there and, yes, he would probably know where. But getting access for the purpose of shooting up the Soldier Readiness Center would be different story. Particularly for him, it would probably require some level of taking it by force. Therefore comparable to killing a cop for his gun. Notably, he used a privately-owned weapon and not a government-issue one.

        Now, if it was a regular Joe instead of the base shrink, it would be a somewhat different story. He might have been issued his duty weapon for training and then proceeded to do something terrible. But with this, it’s getting much further away from the point of the article. My main point is that the article makes it sound like he (in particular) could simply get his hands on an M16 on a whim because he is military. Very far from the truth.

        1. Ah, fair enough then. Personally I just assume the ‘regular’ police will also be disarmed a la the British system whereas their Stormtroopers will be armed the same as the military.

          Most folks forget that the military is well aware that most of their soldiers are at or around the age where, if they were in college, people would still call them ‘kids’ these days.

  16. Although how you would go about making a semi-automatic rifle less dangerous is beyond the realm of reality, since any company that produces a semi-automatic rifle anyone wants produces a rifle that takes a bullet from a magazine and feeds it to the chamber using some of the energy generated by firing the previous bullet. And one feature lots of people like are interchangeable magazines rather than a single, fixed, integrated into the gun magazine. Its like declaring any car with an engine over 200 hp illegal. Sure you can DO that, but how in the fuck are you going to enforce it?

    1. 3-D printed 30-round magazines would be child’s play. Plenty of polymer magazines already on the market. Just add the steel spring. As it is, anyone with a metal shop can make magazines.

      They’d have to completely ban semi-autos. Which is what they want.

      1. Better yet. Ban 3-D printers.

        1. Don’t forget, you would need to ban metal shops as well or they could just build the entire firearm from scratch like they do in Australia. Can’t have that!

          Should probably also ban all chemicals, materials, and education as well just to be sure. People are clever, and might find a way to hurt someone.

          Oh, shit, I almost forgot! Ban rocks too. And hands.

          1. You forgot knees, feet and elbows. Wait, some people (not me) know how to do damaging headbutts. So need to ban heads as well (especially the thinking part, THAT part is very dangerous).

  17. Has Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson Forgotten About Paris or Kenya or the Second Amendment?

    Forgotten? No, he hates freedom as much as he always has.

  18. The percentage of prog idiots in the country is so high (as proof: a system where Obama can get elected President twice and Bernie and Hillary are plausible Presidential candidates), I don’t even want to try to convince them, anymore. I just want to secede and let them have their prog paradise, while my country is run on original Constitutional, quasi-libertarian principles.

  19. Bad guys, easy weapons, soft targets….this is our problem

    Take out weapons & we are left with bad guys with bad intent
    Allow individual defense and the soft targets become hardened
    Identify & Remove bad guys and threat actions are neutralized

    While our Constitution does not guarantee individuals right to bear arms
    Global conditions affecting our Domestic.tranquility, lives & liberties, does

    1. While our Constitution does not guarantee individuals right to bear arms

      Stop lying, statist.

    2. Had to get that old dusty thing Grandpa left me out. Ya right there its was. “the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed” Good simple English words. Its not that hard.

  20. While our Constitution does not guarantee individuals right to bear arms

    [checks Constitution]

    Uh, yeah it does. Its the government, in violation of the Constitution, that doesn’t.

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  22. RE:
    HIT & RUN BLOG
    Has Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson Forgotten About Paris or Kenya or the Second Amendment?
    More ignorance from the anti-gun left.

    We simply must have more gun control.
    Otherwise law abiding citizens will be shooting back at violent criminals.
    Just think of the trauma that would cause to these violent victims of a failed capitalist society.
    I weep just thinking about it.

  23. “The U.S. destabilized Iraq, helping to form ISIS…”

    I can accept that the intervention in Iraq led to a multitude of unintended consequences, but Iraq itself was created as a result of the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, which followed the Byzantines, which followed… All were facilitated by outside interventions.
    Saddam’s Iraq was a miserable place, and while it really was not the proper role of the U.S. to remove him from power, the U.S. also contributed to his rise to power. Most of the blame for ISIS can be attributed to one administration with one set of objectives and another that did not continue pursuing that objective and left a vacuum in leadership.
    It makes a great case against foreign interventions and “nation building” through any method other than free trade, but going in and then not finishing the job because the political climate has shifted might be even worse.

  24. Great article, Ed. The alt-text was hilarious as well.

  25. You deign to question George Takei?? You are aware that he played Mr. Sulu on Star Trek, right? That’s mistake Number 1, thinking you might know more about matters of importance than television actors. Are they really smart or are they pretending? We don’t know!!

    1. Y’know, one thing I really don’t get about George is that he was actually in an interment camp as a child yet he doesn’t seem to be able to draw the line between having a gun and possibly stopping the government from putting you into one in the first place.

      I really do like the guy, but his politics make me sick. He’s so facile that it’s insulting on pretty much every political issue he talks about.

      1. I’ll bet the survivors of German internment camps aren’t huge supporters of gun control.

        1. Many liberal Jews are big gun-control supporters, and many of those have family that were in the camps. It makes no sense. There is a small, but vocal Jewish Second Amendment group, though, jfpo.org. But they are now apparently a subsidiary of the Second Amendment Foundation.

          1. It could just be that they associate the guns with the being put into the camps, instead of the means to resist being put into the camps. It’s very strange if you ask me. I would imagine the Jews in Israel are very pro-gun, whereas the one’s here in the U.S. are just liberals.

      2. I gotta say, I have no patience for people who are fortunate enough to have a platform and yet squander it by mouthing off about the topic du jour without even thinking critically about it. It’s 99% ignorant virtue signalling among these Hollywood people with a handful of courageous exceptions. It is the same with our President – learning how to sound “correct” for expedience. It’s why he pronounces Pakistan like Pocky Stahn, but forgets to do so with Afghanistan. It’s why he pronounces “corpsmen” just as it is spelled 3 times in a speech to cadets. It’s why the other day he went off script and was quoted as saying something like “if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if”. Like the Grinder, he genuinely believes that pretending to be smart with a script is the same as knowing what the hell you’re talking about without one. Fuck them and fuck Mr. Sulu at this point. Actually I take that back. I like Mr. Sulu but George Takei can go fly a damn kite.

    2. Yeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssss.

  26. No-Fly List or any Terror Watch List: Shades Of Nazi Germany – The Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution declares, “No person . . . [shall] be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.” Depriving an America citizen of his or her liberty to purchase a firearm.
    People in OUR government would never stoop to adding those with differing political opinions to a government watch list, would they? Like Hades they wouldn’t! They would, and they do.
    The Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution declares, “No person . . . [shall] be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.” Depriving an America citizen of his or her liberty to purchase a firearm (thus denying the fundamental right of self-defense) by the simple act of a government bureaucracy adding one’s name to a list (with no criminal conduct being committed) smacks of totalitarian regimes.

    http://www.newswithviews.com/b…..win886.htm

    1. The push is now on to pass Peter King’s backdoor gun-control legislation: H.R. 1076. I urge readers to contact their senators and congressman IN MASS and let them know that the American people will NOT tolerate this extreme violation of constitutional liberties. This might be Barack Obama and his gaggle of gun-grabbers’ last opportunity during his administration to enact more gun control. And, again, they are capitalizing on a mass shooting in a gun-free zone as impetus for their tyranny. It never dawns on them that these shootings always take place in a gun-free zone. Instead, they want to turn the entire U.S. into a gun-free zone.
      If the government can ban a citizen’s right to keep and bear arms (or any other constitutionally-protected liberty) by simply putting them on a list, WE ARE ALL IN SERIOUS TROUBLE.

      Pastor Baldwin

      1. Re your We Are In Serious Trouble, you got that right.

  27. Re The Second Amendment, I suspect that Mr. Johnson might ask, What’s That.

  28. Maybe the first step the government can take is to STOP HIRING TERRORISTS!!

    1. Only when we give DHS a blank check and carve up the 2nd Amendment can we expect these people do perform their basic duties. It’s always your fault, never theirs. Just a little more freedom from us and they’ll keep us safe. Yeah, sure they will.

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  32. After the San Bernardino shooting in December, some media outlets reported how close the location was to a Planned Parenthood, due to a shooting at a Planned Parenthood in Colorado

    and even this is a false claim. How many reading this article are aware that the “p;anned parenthood” shooting in Colorado began as a robbery of a Chase Bank down the road, and as the perp fled he happened to head along the less-developed part of that street, which happened to be the location of the PP building, where he hPpened to hole up to stand off the cops? Had that same piece of commercial real estate happened to have housed a pizza joint or a tattoo parlour or a mobil phone store, we would surely NOT be referring to it as the pizza/tattoo/phone store shooting, now, would we?

    More deliberate manipulation by our corrupt agenda-driven media.

  33. Jeh Johnson don’t care. The more American killed the faster he can reshape the majority.

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