Hillary Clinton

Hillary Clinton Makes History. Does Anyone Care?

This is a "historic, unprecedented moment," said Clinton. The response has mostly been a collective 'meh.'

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Hillary Clinton is all but assured to become the first female candidate to capture a major party's presidential nomination. On June 6, the Associated Press declared her the presumptive Democratic nominee, after a poll of Democratic superdelegates (including those who hadn't yet announced their allegiance) found Clinton with enough support to secure the nod. At AP's count, Clinton's delegates won in primaries and caucuses plus her declared supporters among superdelegates pushed her over the threshold of 2,383 delegates, just ahead of the Tuesday primaries.

"Clinton was ebullient but also restrained as she received the news at an uncanny moment—almost eight years to the day after she ended her campaign against Barack Obama before a crowd of many teary women and girls," The New York Times reported.

"I got to tell you, according to the news, we are on the brink of a historic, historic, unprecedented moment," said Clinton Monday, "but we still have work to do, don't we? We have six elections tomorrow, and we're going to fight hard for every single vote, especially right here in California."

Sen. Bernie Sanders has been insisting that some superdelegates, who can change their minds at any time before the convention, will shift their loyalties. As Scott Shackford wrote here earlier today, "Sanders is technically accurate while, you know, probably going to be wrong." Still, Sanders campaign spokesman Michael Briggs issued a statement discounting the AP poll and calling it "unfortunate that the media, in a rush to judgment, are ignoring the Democratic National Committee's clear statement that it is wrong to count the votes of superdelegates before they actually vote at the convention this summer." (Fortunately, the media doesn't take its orders from the DNC.)

Next up: "we're in for a sustained period of mudslinging" between Clinton and Donald Trump, as Daily Beast blogger Eleanor Clift writes. Clift's piece strikes a triumphant note about Clinton, stating that "for women born in the middle of the last century"—like Clift—"this is the kind of unimagined achievement that makes you wonder if you stepped into the middle of a new Broadway play, perhaps 'Hamilton' spun in another way to make the Founding Fathers turn over in their graves." Barack Obama "shattered the tradition" of a white male president, Clift writes, and "now Clinton is poised to continue the change that Obama's presidency began."

Full-fledged celebration of this historic moment, however, seems mostly limited to those already firmly with team Clinton. On political-minded Twitter, Clinton's coronation is overshadowed by arguments over whether establishment Republicans have condemned certain Donald Trump statements harshly enough. Perhaps it's just that her victory in the Democratic primaries has seemed assured for so long already—"Hillary Clinton Just Got News That Makes Official What We Already Knew Was Going to Happen," read the headline at Rare. The BBC's Katty Kay suggested that "the lack of exuberance may come from the fact that this has all been going on for so long. We've really been reworking a version of the 'first viable female candidate for the presidency' story since 20 January 2007, the first time Hillary Clinton declared her candidacy for the White House. We're exhausted. We've run out of superlatives."

Time also tried to make a case for why nobody seemed to care much: "Clinton, a former Secretary of State, Senator and First Lady, has already been a trailblazer over four decades in public life," plus "women are no longer newcomers to presidential politics. Before the rise of Obama in 2007, Clinton was a likely Democratic nominee. Younger voters remember Sarah Palin's turn as a vice-presidential nominee in 2008, and their parents recall Geraldine Ferraro's turn in 1984; a woman leader just seems obvious to them. Others, such as Carol Moseley Braun in 2004, Michele Bachmann in 2012 and Carly Fiorina in 2016, have made unsuccessful attempts before, and the novelty simply is not there for Clinton."

An alternative or complementary answer, of course, is that Clinton's barrier-breaking status simply isn't enough to overcome her unpopularity. Both Clinton and Trump have unfavorable ratings above 50 percent. Clinton may have a lot of love among supporters, but among those who dislike her she tends to inspire strong dislike. People aren't tepid about Hillary Clinton. And whether the vitriol is tied up in her policies, her persona, her sex, or all of the above, it's not the sort of thing people—especially young voters—are likely or willing to put aside, even temporarily, for the sake of celebrating symbolism.

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  1. This is a “historic, unprecedented moment,” said Clinton. The response has mostly been a collective ‘meh.’

    I dunno, NPR was pretty quick to agree. They almost sounded breathless this morning.

    1. Everyone in the media (including ENB) seems to be pretending to take this victory lap seriously, and acts surprised when no one else does – being more interested in seeing if she can actually win in California. which would seem to me to be the obvious story not being covered.

      1. I hate Hillary for making me root for Bernie.

        1. ^ This. Also, for being a corrupt, evil cunt

        2. ^ This. Also, for being a corrupt, evil cunt

          1. It would appear the squirrelz agree!

      2. If I’m a Bernie supporter, I’d be thoroughly pissed, because this looks like a blatant pre-emptive strike by the media to suppress turnout in California and turn what’s become a razor-thin margin into a solid Clinton victory in the state.

        If Bernie manages to win California after this, the AP in particular is going to have some serious egg on its face. And liberals wonder why no one other than their hugboxes gives a shit that Trump is pissing all over the media and openly treating them like a fifth column reminiscent of ancient court eunuchs.

    2. She wore a $12,000 armani jacket while talking about eliminating income inequality. That was pretty historic.

  2. Somehow the Clinton campaign hasn’t realized the “I am woman, hear me roar” thing isn’t working. Aren’t they supposed to be better at this?

    1. In her case, I am woman hear me screech?

      I am woman hear me hack up a lung?

  3. “unfortunate that the media, in a rush to judgment, are ignoring the Democratic National Committee’s clear statement that it is wrong to count the votes of superdelegates before they actually vote at the convention this summer.” (Fortunately, the media doesn’t take its orders from the DNC.)

    Uh yes, yes it does.

    1. The DNC doesn’t have to “order” the media to do anything. Most of the media is ran by democrats. They already to their bidding without orders.

      1. At least they’re earning their pay.

  4. I think it’s because she’s been around so long, was super active as first lady, and nobody really thinks of her as a woman. She’s just the Clinton that literally wears the pants in the relationship.

    1. Especially since Bill is always taking his off.

    2. Here’s how the New York Times described her candidacy in relation to Bernie Sanders:

      “Given Hillary Rodham Clinton as such a dominant candidate, with widespread support, lots of money and the Democratic Party’s likely imprimatur, almost any other Democratic candidate looked like an also-ran.”

      But remember, they’re not following orders from the DNC.

    3. nobody really thinks of her as a woman

      It’s an interesting and on point observation. Did people think of Margaret Thatcher as a woman?

      1. True, but you will never hear Hilary say anything like this: “Every family should have the right to spend their money, after tax, as they wish, and not as the government dictates. Let us extend choice, extend the will to choose and the chance to choose.”

        1. My god, she’s like a female Murray Rothbard!

      2. Theory feminists in the West didn’t.

        Thatcher is history’s most notable counterexample to the notion that women are more socially responsible leaders. “There is an argument that Britain’s first female prime minister actually did very little for women,” writes Sky News correspondent Sophy Ridge. “She froze child benefit and refused to invest in affordable childcare, instead criticising working mothers for raising a ‘cr?che generation.’ With the exception of Baroness Young, she promoted no women to her cabinet and no women above junior minister.” She appointed only one woman to her cabinet. The pay gap increased during her tenure, as did inequality.

        1. More proof that identitarian politics is thoroughbred horseshit: they measure political success in handouts, not in the example served.

      3. First of all, unlike Hillary, Thatcher governed in a time where misogyny and sexism were actually still real things that negatively affected women. Even so, she stomped down any criticism of her with force and aggression and laughed off any sexist attacks without ever playing the victim. She would probably never be labeled womanly or feminine. I do think a lot of people saw her as just another part of the Old Boys Club.

        1. Thatcher was the type of leader that simply led. She didn’t navel gaze or whinge on about glass ceilings or the difficulties of living in a man’s world.

        2. Her death was also wildly celebrated by many, many people who are backing Hillary, because woman.

          1. That movie about Thatcher starring Meryl Streep was an insult to Thatcher.

            1. I don’t know. I watched it on Netflix not too long ago, and ended up liking Thatcher more than I did before. Was it intended to make her look bad? If so, it really failed on that count.

              I think they actually made it a point to show that her government-spending cutting policies, while they seemed heartless at first, fueled a lot of economic growth and lifted them out of a prolonged recession.

    4. It seems incredibly difficult to get excited about it. It’s about as impressive as a transvestite “woman” becoming the first woman to beat a man in some top-level athletic event.

    5. Maybe because she always seems to need a man to help her do anything.

  5. “Power! Absolute power!”

      1. An ugly $12,000 pantsuit.

        1. This. If she actually spends $12K on her pantsuits, she must be buying them from the same crony that sells the government $500 hammers.

          Her wardrobe would look awful even if it were $120 per pantsuit, on sale at Sears. I mean, is Pee Wee Herman her personal stylist, or what?

    1. This is how liberty dies. With endless whining.

  6. Is it really that big a deal to have a woman as head of government, in the West. Thatcher immediately comes to mind. Angela Merkel. Golda Meier for the old timers. Indira Ghandi, Benazir Bhutto. Australia and New Zealand have had women as Prime Minister. Sort of reminds me of this:

    http://www.theonion.com/articl…..-fir-33521

    1. To be fair to HRC, those other women were functionaries in our various protectorates. We’re talking about the grand prize here.

      1. But still, female heads of state are hardly rare. Sort of takes the shine off “historic” and “unprecedented”.

    2. And when you look at some of those women leaders, Hillary won’t even be the first on to be abjectly incompetent and awful at her job (looking mostly at Indian leaders, but you missed Peron, who’s was also wildly disastrous).

      1. Don’t forget Cristina Fern?ndez de Kirchner. Hillary Clinton will just be one more female president of a failing and corrupt banana republic.

    3. Thatcher, Merkel. Golda Meier, Indira Ghandi, and Benazir Bhutto were all powerful and inspiring women, even though their policies varied and I disagree with many. Most of them governed at a time when mysogyny and sexism was still a real thing holding women back. We might get stuck with Hillary Clinton as our first woman president at a time where mysogyny and sexism has almost no hold on society, yet I bet she will complain about it more than all the others combined.

      1. if I was a woman I think Id be pretty against Hillary being our first woman president

        1. If I was a woman I would finally have a good excuse for not being able to parallel park.

        2. If I was a woman I would be against hillary claiming to be a woman.

      2. Notably, the first three you listed did not ride on their husband’s coattails.

        1. Or need a man to run the economy, or need a man to campaign for her (el presidente), or need a minority man as her vp to help her win.

  7. “You know these things that happen in your life that just stick? She walked by and she shook my hand and our eyes connected and I just remember having this moment where I thought; “Wow, this is amazing,”‘ said Abedin.

    ‘And it just inspired me. You know, I still remember the look on her face. And it’s funny, and she would probably be so annoyed that I say this, but I remember thinking; “Oh my God, she’s so beautiful and she’s so little!”‘

    1. “Oh my God, she’s so beautiful and she’s so little!”‘

      And people call us monsters.

      1. You are a monster, but so are Hillary and her horrific goons.

      2. Well, maybe it is just your writing that is monstrous

      3. All babies are ugly fresh out of the womb, hillary just never changed.

    2. You’re gonna be posting this for the next five months, aren’t you?

      1. Hillary’s closest advisor has given very few interviews, and in one she said the above quote, and also said she doesn’t know what is in her emails. She also agreed to let filmmakers document her husband’s sex scandal, in which she figures prominently.

        So yes, I am going to repeat it every now and then. Girl power!

    3. CJ – Who was the writer you quoted talking about?

  8. You’d think after Obama’s thoroughly disappointing tenure, most especially where race relations are concerned, people might start backing off the notion that a “first x” president is some transcendental achievement for all of x, whoever x is.

    Yes, ladies, if you’re willing to stand by your philandering husband in the face of multiple rape accusations, amass a criminal empire in the guise of a charitable foundation with hardly any charitable work, engender a reputation for dishonesty and corruption, sell out Americans and American interests for access, and potentially end up losing to the weakest candidate the GOP, renowned for its weak candidates, could find to put up this cycle… well, indeed, Hillary is your trailblazer.

    1. Hillary is a terrible candidate by any measure. If she wins the election, it will literally be the purest case of right-place-right-time I’ve ever seen. And if she loses, her awfulness as a candidate will be in the history books to be studied by generations of political scientists to come– because she will have shown that she could lose an election even when she was in the right place at the right time.

      1. And yet, she still wins, Paul. Remember, we were two of a very few (I think only three or four consistent commenters) who accurately predicted Obumbles 2012 victory over Grand Coiffed Tarkin, aka Shit Flopney, by a comfortable margin.

        Hill’s a lock, just like Obumbles was.

        1. I’m not afraid to say I was an early predictor of Hillary’s 2016 presidency, but she’s proved to be such an awful candidate, I now admit I’m more circumspect.

          I still believe a few things to be true: The media will do everything it can to defeat trump, and will Carry Hillary over the line. I also believe that Hillary will win the debates in the general. However, I also believe that if a miracle occurred and Trump somehow pulled off his rubber mask and became presidential and WON a debate, the media would still try to declare Hillary the winner– kind of like they did in the first debate between Romney and Obama.

          The only questions I have (and obviously can’t answer) is will Bern victims stay home, and if not, will they uniformly vote for Hillary?

          1. The only questions I have (and obviously can’t answer) is will Bern victims stay home, and if not, will they uniformly vote for Hillary?

            This will hinge on one critical unknown…

            Her choice for VEEP..

          2. Call me crazy, but I think Trump is the one GOP guy that Hillary can beat. She’s awful, and if Cruz had won, the party would have united behind him much more than their hesitant rallying ’round the Trumpster.

          3. The media hates it when they don’t have full control the news cycle, trump plays them. They hate it when they feign outrage and demand an apology and don’t get one, They call trump out and instead of backing down and apologizing, he doubles down and blames them, (and the crowd goes wild), although republicans love to apologize over crap they shouldn’t be.

            1. Trump tells them he has a special announcement and may take questions, then spouts his normal crap, says thank you and leaves. And once again they get suckered in.

    2. Maybe Hillary can have a White Zinfandel summit to heal gender relations.

        1. Vermouth and seltzer (with a strawberry garnish) ftw.

          1. This is the worst comment from any commenter, ever.

  9. Let us jump into The Wayback Machine, shall we?

    Groovy Prediction Time:

    Hillary will be the 2016 nominee, and will most likely run unopposed so as not to derail her nom. Her hobby horse: Medical Care, as she is fully expecting ObamneyCare to FAIL (by design).

    She hasn’t forgotten HillaryCare, folks. On her many trips to UKR, she often talked with both Julia Tymoshenko and Health Minister Raisa Bogatyrjova about medical care and how “fixing” the USA’s medical care system is still a dream of hers.

    HERE

  10. (cont)

    And…

    Pro’L Dib, however true that may be, TEAM trumps all. His Pestilency’s legacy is complete and the press will cover for him in exchange for him leaving HillDawg alone. Who else is there? Another “Old White Guy?” I thought TEAM BLUE, Jezehellions, and Feminfisters hated them.

    It’s HillDawg’s turn, enemies or not, and women voted revealed v. stated preferences before, and they will again. Same with all the other demographies His Pestilency carried, and she is guaranteed The Vag Vote.

    I am so sure of this I would consider betting my medical license, Pro’L Dib. All the others, including Joe, are pretenders at best. If by some reason TEAM RED picks up seats (I don’t foresee it), then she will remind voters of Clinton Triangulation.

    HERE

    HillDawg wins over both Troomp, and Flaccid Johnson/Gelded Weld. By how much will depend on her running mate for Veep.

    1. The only things I didn’t factor one was Feelin’ the Bern (and is running to her Left), and, Troomp, of course.

      *NO ONE* forsaw him.

      1. Bernie was able to stay in because he has nothing to lose. O’Malley wants to have a future on TEAM BLUE

    2. VP picks, historically, have been almost meaningless. But I think there’s a chance of people looking more closely at them in 2016 because I can see withe Trump or Clinton being one-termers.

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  12. Ha, I just saw on Wikipedia that Gracie Allen ran for president in 1940. On the Surprise Party ticket. She got 42,000 votes!

  13. In a perfect world,Hillary Clinton is would be all but assured to become the first female candidate to capture a major party’s presidential nomination and be indicted before the general election.”

    FTFY

  14. The problem with women achieving equal status with men in society is that no one cares anymore if someone is a woman or not. Her corruption and incompetence has made plenty of history. The most corrupt and incompetent person to win a party’s nomination? I could agree with that.

  15. When she is making license plates in orange overalls, she will make the kind of history I care for…

  16. Hillary Clinton is all but assured

    IOW, “Not Yet”, but let’s ignore that for the sake of helping to paper over the results in CA

    1. We all know that’s what this is about. I’m not surprised most media outlets are going along with it, but I’m a bit really disappointed that Reason is.

  17. Clinton is such a horrible person and candidate that being a woman gets buried. I strongly doubt anyone who has been paying attention at all thinks her sex is any sort of problem compared to all of her other issues.

  18. I’m still holding out for an uncle Joe, Chief Warren ticket after Justice drops the hammer.

  19. At least we know that war would be the absolute, positively, only-if-she-really-has-to, last resort of a president Clinton, because:

    “Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat.”

    — Hillary Clinton

    1. What about kinetic military actions?

      1. They don’t count, silly. Military historians have a warehouse full of asterisks for them.

  20. an uncanny moment?almost eight years to the day after she ended her campaign against Barack Obama

    Calendars, how the fuck do they work. Uncanny.

  21. So the choice will be between a raging bull and a criminal. I’ll take the bull because it’s more predictable.

  22. “I got to tell you, according to the news, we are on the brink of a historic, historic, unprecedented moment,”

    Vote Vagina 2016!

  23. “Barrier breaking moment”? What barrier? There are, and always have been, more women than men. Could this country, just once, examine the real issues instead of dumbing everything down to us vs. them?

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