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Johns Hopkins Students Say First Semester Grades Give Them Depression, Should Be Abolished

'If the school is worsening my anxiety, that's their problem and they need to be held accountable for that'

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Yet more students say they are triggered by one of the most basic facets of the college experience: grades. 

Johns Hopkins University is one of a handful of colleges that doesn't include first-semester grades for freshmen on their transcripts. They receive grades, but they don't count for anything. The custom was intended to ease students into university life, but officials are worried it encourages laziness, and have plans to abolish it. (Related: Oberlin Students Want Below-Average Grades Abolished, Midterms Replaced with Conversations) 

That isn't sitting well with activist students, who have organized under the banner "Re-Cover Hopkins." Not only do they want the university to return to its policy of discounting first-year grades, they want the administration to apologize for daring to change it:

"Freshmen are immediately subject to grade deflation and a cutthroat culture which has been fostered by the administration in its lack of urgency to implement a remedy. Hopkins students experience anxiety, depression, and suicide at high rates which cannot continue to be tolerated for the sake of competitive academic performance. 

Students from low-income backgrounds, first generation students, students struggling with mental health, students with disabilities, international students, and sexual assault survivors—as well as students whose experiences exist at intersections of marginalized race, gender, and sexuality—are disproportionately affected by the policy change." 

Erica Taicz, a student and Re-Cover Hopkins organizer, told The Baltimore Sun: 

"I've heard a lot of feedback from parents and the administration that kind of makes it feel like we are just trying to be coddled, and it's not it at all," Taicz said. "I'm paying so much, I expect to be able to be critical of that service when it doesn't support me. 

"I'm paying to have a support network, academically and mentally. I can't be expected to do well in class if I'm depressed and have anxiety. If the school is worsening my anxiety, that's their problem and they need to be held accountable for that." 

Taicz is right that she's paying an obscene amount of money to attend Johns Hopkins. Tuition there is $50,000 a year, and that's not even including room and board. But if students like Taicz are really just looking for a network of comprehensive mental support, there are certainly cheaper counselling services out there. 

What Hopkins students are actually paying for is a rigorous education and, eventually, a degree that demonstrates their intellectual competence in some area of study. Making college easier by discounting grades will ultimately cheapen the value of that degree. 

It's okay, of course, for the university to make specific accommodations for struggling students who have legitimate issues. But activist students seem to be borrowing the language of trauma to describe mundane discomforts. 

In reference to the new grading policy, National Review's Katherine Timpf writes, "Having to receive letter grades is not a traumatic experience, it's a normal one, and any potential students who think they can't handle it should really just go somewhere else." 

That's obviously a bit harsh. Some students experience real difficulties, and deserve sympathy. Indeed, the overwhelming cost of attending college—and the debt it implies—no doubt provokes legitimate anxiety. But in some sense, higher education must be foremost about learning and evaluation. It's just how school works.

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  1. If Hopkins isn’t summarily failing these idiots out with brutal intro classes, that’s their problem. Engineering schools are supposed to be about brutality first and foremost.

    1. Correct. The first year is about weeding out the business majors.

      1. I mean, I remember how it sucks to be a kid at a “name” engineering school. But you learn to sack up, do your work, and blow off steam in unhealthy ways like a normal person. It why Jesus created shitty beer and fat chicks, you know?

        1. This sounds eerily similar to my experience.

        2. I’m pretty sure every college student becomes well acquainted with shitty beer, regardless of major.

          1. Oh, but a communications major learns nothing about self-loathing.

            1. That’s after graduation.

        3. Warm beer and cold pizza, a university happy hour classic.

          1. I once ate some leftover pizza that had been sitting, unrefrigerated, in the common area of my dorm suite for a week. Thanks to college, i’m pretty sure i’m immune to botulism now.

            1. Old dorms or New dorms?

              1. Gooch-Dillard, mothahfacko. Yes please, allow me to live two miles from Grounds, on top of an antebellum slave graveyard that is on top of a mountain.

                1. What’s the name of the horse race there? I once partied at that with a buddy of mine who went to UVA. The staggering numbers of hot chicks in sundresses made me really reconsider my life choices.

                  1. Foxfield

                  2. Foxfields

                2. NICE! Lefevre for me.

                  1. Bonnycastle, old dorms.

            2. They were both poisoned. X spent the last few years building up an immunity to iocane powder.

              1. +1 land war in Asia

          2. Oh god, you have triggered my enteric brain. It is now traumatically reliving some horrible memories.

            1. If he’s triggering you that’s his problem and he needs to be held accountable for that.”

          3. You forgot cold canned beans and KD. Lots of KD…

        4. Every fall the freshmen engineering classes would be about 50/50 male/female. The upperclassmen would be circling the freshmen gals like sharks in a feeding frenzy because they all knew that once the deadline for dropping a class came 90% of the women would be gone (also most of the freshmen guys too).

          Good times.

        5. “It why Jesus created shitty beer and fat chicks, you know?”

          How many years did I have to wait for Warty to say something worthwhile? It was worth it.

      2. And second year business school is about weeding out the English majors.

        1. English majors get wedded out of every major, except education. Freshman comp is there to weed out the education majors.

          1. When I would go on job interviews I would actually say, “well, since I’m an English Lit major I consider it the Seventh Sign of the Apocalypse that we’re actually having this conversation at all.”

            1. For my current job, as a senior software engineer, one of the interviewers (the CEO, btw) remarked, “Whoa! You’re an English major!”

      3. Farnsworth: “But, what about your super-intelligence?”
        Gunther: “When I had that there was too much pressure to use it. All I want out of life is to be a monkey of moderate intelligence who wears a suit. That’s why I’ve decided to transfer to business school!”
        Farnsworth: “Noooooooooo!”

    2. And lets not forget Hopkins has a very well known medical school. I know this is only undergraduate but doesn’t the idea of colleges no longer giving grades give you a good feeling about going to the doctor?

      1. It’ll certainly give me 2nd thoughts about going to any doctor who went to Hopkins for pre-med.

        1. A whole bunch of my college friends became surgeons. If my drunk idiot friends are any indication, you should never ever go to a doctor for any reason. Ever.

          1. Just happened to be passing by, and, voila!

            I have to save this for my anti-allopathy posts!

          2. Well, medical errors may be the third leading cause of death in the US.

            http://www.nbcnews.com/health/…..ca-n568031

            And if you think about it, your body is a lot more complicated than a PC, and how well do you think tech support understands your PC?

        2. “What do you call someone who graduated at the bottom of his medical class?”

          1. Surgeon General?

          2. VA employee?

          3. proctologist?

          4. Dentist?

          5. Doctor

      1. I am indeed entertained by your failure to get in the first comment again. You are slipping, Fist.

        1. “Things Winston’s Mom frequently says.”

          1. *snort*

            Is Winston still hanging out here, so he can see this?

    3. Engineering schools are supposed to be about brutality first and foremost.

      First you have to show that you are willing to sacrifice your social life. Then the real work begins.

    4. It might be different for private schools, but a lot of states have been putting economic pressure on schools to succeed via the “graduation rate” metric. Meaning, essentially, that failing students puts your university in a world of financial hurt.

      Administrators rejoice because it’s super easy to implement “don’t give anybody lower than a C” policies. The only reason anybody wouldn’t graduate from college now is that they literally just never showed up.

      1. This is why resumes are damn near meaningless now. You got good grades at a “good” school? So what? So did everyone else. Now let’s talk about actual projects that you worked on and what you contributed to them. And you better sound like you at least paid attention when the smart kid in your group was doing all the work.

        1. You got good grades at a “good” school? So what? So did everyone else.

          College: quickly becoming completely useless. Bachelor’s degrees are no longer enough to differentiate oneself from the crowd, so next they’ll start pushing people to pursue master’s degrees so that they can bilk another 2 years of tuition out of these hapless morons.

          But not to worry: Comrade Bernie will make college free and forgive all your existing student loan debt, so that you can pursue ever higher credentials in advanced bullshit studies, all on the public dime!

          1. “…so next they’ll start pushing people to pursue master’s degrees so that they can bilk another 2 years of tuition out of these hapless morons.”

            That began over a decade ago.

            (looks regretfully at six-figure law school sheepskin)

          2. Then the master’s degree will be the new bachelor’s degree. Next verse, same as the first.

            1. Its getting so bad that the military has been pushing the degree requirements down to the enlisted ranks.

              In the Navy soon (if its not already been implemented) to be eligible for E-9 you’ll need an AA/AS minimum and the plan is to eventually push that down to *E-6* and require a masters for E-9.

              At which point the rest of us are asking – what’s going to be the fucking point of 0-1/2’s if the SNCOs are more qualified, knowledgeable, and of the same social rank? Why would you even bother recruiting from outside the ranks for your executives?

      2. “The only reason anybody wouldn’t graduate from college now is that they literally just never showed up”

        Funny, that’s how I ended up being encouraged to “take some time off” after spending half of my freshman year 1st semester drinking beer, smoking dope, and hanging out in places that were not on my schedule. Is 41 years too late to make a claim of triggering? My MWF 730-9 AM class was Range Animal Science with 50 goat ropers dipping and spitting in cans. The horror. THE HORROR!

    5. Hopkins Med School tuition is like 60k a year. And they don’t accept many students. I think they’re primarily better known as a med school than for engineering.

  2. Someone please correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought most students, upon reaching college, have already been receiving grades for about 2/3 of their lives.

    1. *Public school* grades man – those don’t count. Nobody cares if you were valedictorian of your class or spent half the year stoned out of your mind behind the bleachers – as long as you got that diploma its all the same.

      1. And yet how many college freshmen did you know that bragged about their high school grades like they mattered?

    2. Lots of people sadly discover that they are in the bottom third of the top 5%

  3. “Freshmen are immediately subject to grade deflation and a cutthroat culture which has been fostered by the administration in its lack of urgency to implement a remedy. Hopkins students experience anxiety, depression, and suicide at high rates which cannot continue to be tolerated for the sake of competitive academic performance.

    Students from low-income backgrounds, first generation students, students struggling with mental health, students with disabilities, international students, and sexual assault survivors?”as well as students whose experiences exist at intersections of marginalized race, gender, and sexuality?”are disproportionately affected by the policy change.”

    Mmmmm. Delicious. Maybe I should have gone into academia at all. How great would it be to fail these retards?

    1. The school would fire you in about an hour. But yeah, I life spent torturing and failing these little bastards would be a life well lived.

      1. The school would fire you in about an hour.

        That’s why you just play along until you get tenure.

    2. How great would it be to fail these retards?

      It feels great, actually.

      1. My advisor once had a kid yell at him in class because a mechanical engineering student shouldn’t have to take signal processing. Submitting that F would probably feel approximately as good as a handjob.

        1. *because the kid thought

        2. Haven’t had an old fashioned in a while.

          1. You should rectify that.

          2. You need to buy the wife a Shake Weight.

          3. It’s like traveling back in time. I don’t know what brings you to climax more, the handy or the nostalgia.

    3. Mmmmm. Delicious. Maybe I should have gone into academia at all. How great would it be to fail these retards?

      Remember: professors may not come armed to college campuses, but disgruntled students intent on a killing spree face no such restrictions.

      Also, think of the college in a libertarian sense, as a service provider and the students as your paying customers; do you think it makes good business sense to abuse your customers, even if they are little idiots? Your job isn’t to give them an education, your job is to give them what they are paying for, which for Yale and John Hopkins students is four years of coddling, drunken sex, and Title IX aftermath for jilted girls.

  4. *continues filling sandbags and plotting intersecting fields of fire while whistling merrily*

    Any day now it’s all just going to come crashing down.

    1. Or you could hire a Hopkins grad to fill those sandbags for you.

      1. Not if I want it done right the first time.

        1. So, hire them to plot the intersecting fields of fire.

          1. Are you trying to get me killed?

            1. Fine. Hire them to test the field of fire.

              1. Yeah, that’s what I meant.

                1. Better than using orphans, that’s for sure. The orphans will actually fill the sandbags.

              2. This is an acceptable use of my funds.

  5. Oberlin students want below average grades abolished? Isn’t this the Lake Wobegon strategy?

    1. the Hopkins students are just angry that Oberlein is beating them.

  6. Shouldn’t they be a bit more concerned about how goddamn transphobic their school is?

    “Johns Hopkins Psychiatrist: Transgender is ‘Mental Disorder;’ Sex Change ‘Biologically Impossible'”

    Where is their intersectionality?!?!

    1. You must have missed this part:

      Dr. Paul R. McHugh, the former psychiatrist-in-chief for Johns Hopkins Hospital

  7. How is what Timpf said “harsh,” according to Robby? Her comment did not address cost of attendance or anxiety. It simply said that receiving grades in school is a normal experience and if potential students viewed them alternatively as “traumatic,” they should reconsider attending school.

    For Christ’s sake, stop apologizing for these pussies.

    1. Robby prevaricates in order to troll the commentariat, it is known. Call him all the names you want, but with that glorious hair, his ego is untouchable.

      1. His video piece, that is currently highly featured, needs more comments. Go troll him for a bit.

      2. Where there’s room for nuance I’m fine with the “can I still attend the cocktail parties” lines. But good God, he just imputed to Timpf words and meanings that cannot be found anywhere in her quote.

        Maybe I really am just jealous about his hair…(dreamy sigh).

        1. It is known.

    2. Something about “KOCKTALE PARTIEZ.”

  8. The most important lesson in the first college semester is that, however big a deal you might have been in high school, you are most likely an average or below deal in college. Your grades help teach that lesson.

    1. It’s the high school borderline dropouts that get the 3.9’s in college

    2. The most important lesson you learn in college is that a grand majority of colleges have extremely lax standards. If you want an education, seek it out yourself; don’t rely on adult daycare centers where pieces of paper are worshiped.

  9. That’s obviously a bit harsh. Some students experience real difficulties, and deserve sympathy. Indeed, the overwhelming cost of attending college?”and the debt it implies?”no doubt provokes legitimate anxiety. But in some sense, higher education must be foremost about learning and evaluation. It’s just how school works.

    There is a name for those students Robby; students who should not be attending college. As Catafish says above, there is nothing harsh about that assessment.

  10. “I smoked weed with Johnnie Hopkins!”

    “You don’t know anyone named Johnnie Hopkins!”

    “It was Johnnie Hopkins and Sloan Kettering, and they were blazing that shit up every. Day.”

  11. “”In reference to the new grading policy, National Review’s Katherine Timpf writes, “Having to receive letter grades is not a traumatic experience, it’s a normal one, and any potential students who think they can’t handle it should really just go somewhere else.”

    That’s obviously a bit harsh”

    What Timpf said is completely accurate, so I can only assume that your criticism of her comes from jealousy over the fact that she’s horning in on your ‘blond Millennial with great hair writing about stupid college students’ beat.

    1. A also don’t know why this is the Katherine Timpf article we’re discussing when Prof Took Students on an ‘EcoSexual Sextravaganza’ Trip to Marry and Have Sex with the Ocean

      According to the Corsair, the attendees were handed plastic rings and gave their own personal vows to the sea before Sprinkle stated, “With this ring, I thee wed, and bestow upon the sea, the treasures of my mind, heart and hands.” Stephens added, “As well as our body and soul,” and Sprinkle concluded, “And with that, I now pronounce you one with the sea” ?” officially making all of the participants married to the sea, apparently. At least one of the attendees seemed to suggest that the ocean is not the only part of nature that she thinks about through the lens of a romantic relationship: “Back when I would hug trees in Santa Cruz, I would sort of ask the tree if it was okay if I hugged it and I would feel their spirit or energy or something give a response back, and then proceed accordingly,” a UCSC alumna who identified herself only as “Serenity” told the Corsair.

      1. If I was promised a “sextravaganza” and it ended up being jerking off in the ocean, damn would I be pissed.

        1. Crusty wouldn’t. Then again, that’s a pretty accurate description of what Crusty just calls “July.”

          1. I would imagine what Crusty does to the ocean would really disturb these people and most of the rest of the human race for that mater.

            1. We’re losing all the coral reefs because of Crusty.

            2. But is it rape-rape, or was the ocean asking for it, with that rhythmic sloshing of the waves, and the gentle swaying of the surface?

              1. The sea loved every minute of it. How can you tell? By how wet it got….

          2. Why does Crusty jerk off into the ocean?

            Because it’s there, man. Because it’s there.

        2. I’d fuck the ocean if it means I could have a three way with me, the ocean, and one of the hot co-eds from the class.

          1. You apparently didn’t look very closely at the picture of the class the last time somebody linked to this story.

            1. The Last American Hero has an admirable taste in women, X.

            2. Seems like the usual college mix: maybe 1/3 pretty nice, 1/3 fat, and 1/3 plain, both for the men and for the women.

        3. Why do you think the ocean is so foamy?

      2. I like how she asked the tree “if if it was okay if” she hugged it. Arboreal affirmative consent and all.

        1. “Back when I would hug trees in Santa Cruz” is now my second favorite ridiculous sentence fragment I’ve heard from a liberal, behind only “from my perch by the corner coat pile”

          1. That article is fantastic for the sentence fragment game. I just got to “something a twinky type said”

      3. I would sort of ask the tree if it was okay if I hugged it and I would feel their spirit or energy or something give a response back, and then proceed accordingly

        THAT TREE RAPIST NEVER GOT AFFIRMATIVE CONSENT!!!!!!! ONLY “YES” MEANS YES!!!!!!!!!!

      4. At least one of the attendees seemed to suggest that the ocean is not the only part of nature that she thinks about through the lens of a romantic relationship: “Back when I would hug trees in Santa Cruz, I would sort of ask the tree if it was okay if I hugged it and I would feel their spirit or energy or something give a response back, and then proceed accordingly,” a UCSC alumna who identified herself only as “Serenity” told the Corsair.

        I cannot fathom a more useless person if I tried.

      5. Somewhere around my house I have a picture of Annie Sprinkle’s breasts perched atop my head.

    2. I can only assume that your criticism of her comes from jealousy over the fact that she’s horning in on your ‘blond Millennial with great hair writing about stupid college students’ beat.

      He better tread lightly. Crusty don’t play that.

  12. Just wait till these unique little snowflakes get their first merit review coming out of college.

    1. Who the hell will hire them?

      1. Rejection letters don’t qualify as letter grades, so win-win, right?

        1. Rejection letters should be abolished and treated as hate crimes.

      2. Coffee shops

    2. It’s cute that you think they’ll be employed.

      1. They’ll be employed, but the DMV doesn’t do merit reviews.

      2. They have lots of options for employment: community organizing, IRS telephone operator, school teacher, congresscritter, etc. Even some in the corporate world: diversity consultant, press release writer, customer support, etc. All the kinds of jobs that require shrills, not skills.

    3. I can’t be expected to do well at work if I’m depressed and have anxiety. If my job is worsening my anxiety, that’s their problem and they need to be held accountable for that.

      1. “Well then, snowflake, if the demands of working a real job are too much for your fragile self, and you can’t produce because of your “anxiety,” then I can certainly help with that. Report to HR, you’re fired.” /their future boss*

        *Probably not though, it’s almost impossible to fire anyone no matter how incompetent they are.

        1. HR sends them back with a letter

          ‘You can’t fire this person or we’re facing an ADA suit – deal with it.’

          1. *assigns them to only the most pointless, mundane tasks imaginable while re-assigning any actual work they were doing to others on the team*

            Yeah, I know, that’s probably how it would really go. The only hope is that if you “rubber room” them enough they’ll quit on their own.

            1. That’s when your transfer them to the most bumfuck outpost in your company.

              The company my wife works for does that. Lazy as fuck? Congratulations! We need a strong team member in Nowhere, Iowa (population 300 and hours from the nearest metro area). We need you there by next week!

          2. They clearly haven’t figured out the European trick for dealing with restrictions on firing: you periodically gather all the employees you want to get rid of, put them into a subsidiary, and spin that off. After that, they are not your problem anymore. (Of course, those spin-offs are usually rather short-lived.)

  13. The level of ‘mental illness’ indoctrination is absurd. They are being taught that all negative emotions are disorders. Which makes them tools for manipulating their parents and teachers. (And the only legitimate emotion is self-righteous outrage.)

    1. The cynic in me says that this is a way of shifting responsibility away from the individual in question. If I feel anxious or suffer from a lack of confidence, the onus is on me to deal with it. If I’m suffering from a mental health issue, well, that’s not something I can control. The onus, then, is for other people to treat and accommodate me.

    1. His ‘Booger’ is dead on!

      1. “Things Winston’s Mom frequently says.”

    2. He designed the javelin to go along with Lamar’s limp-wristed throwing style.

    3. Nah – if they were they’d have gotten a bunch of unfunny women to reprise the roles. And it wouldn’t take place in a sorority. And it wouldn’t have any humor in it.

  14. Sometimes dude you jsut have to roll with the punches dude.

    http://www.Goin-Anon.tk

    1. Dude right on ,dude. LOL

      http://www.Groin-Man.pu

  15. ‘If the school is worsening my anxiety, that’s their problem and they need to be held accountable for that’

    No, retard, if you’re not prepared for college, you shouldn’t be in college. For fuck’s sake…

  16. If the school is worsening my anxiety, that’s their problem and they need to be held accountable for that

    You are soooooooooooooo close to understanding how markets work!

    Sadly, authoritarianism seems to come more naturally. *Sigh*

  17. Hopkins students experience anxiety, depression, and suicide at high rates which cannot continue to be tolerated for the sake of competitive academic performance.

    Uh…wut? Doubtful.

    1. Indeed. John Hopkins has nothing on MIT.

      1. I wouldn’t bet on it. I knew of at least 3 suicides when I was there.

    2. I wouldn’t be surprised. Lots of Japs.

      1. Japs don’t commit suicide from anxiety over grades though, they do it because they have no souls. /sarc

      2. It’s not the Asians. It’s always been the white kid who was in the top ten percent of his class who went to Hopkins and promptly got his ass handed to him. Usually a pre-med.

  18. Some students experience real difficulties, and deserve sympathy

    OK, that’s fine.

    That’s obviously a bit harsh

    Nope. You can be sympathetic and still expect people to face reality.

    the overwhelming cost of attending college?”and the debt it implies?”no doubt provokes legitimate anxiety

    To wit: Deal with it.

  19. That’s obviously a bit harsh. Some students experience real difficulties, and deserve sympathy.

    Robby trolls so hard

    1. He should take more Soma and embrace his inner Gamma

  20. Why just first semester grades?

    I mean, if you didn’t bother to *show up* ready, is a single semester really enough? What about those students from low-income backgrounds, first generation students, students struggling with mental health, students with disabilities, international students, and sexual assault survivors – as well as students whose experiences exist at intersections of marginalized race, gender, and sexuality – that may need more support? What if they’re still anxious in their third year? How can they be expected to do well in class then?

    1. That’s a really long-winded way to say “everyone but white men.”

      Because white men never deal with adversity. It is known.

  21. Some students experience real difficulties, and deserve sympathy.

    No they don’t. You should certainly *empathize with them*. But save your sympathy. It does nothing except open you up for exploitation by others. Set out your standards and live or die by them – that’s it. Meet the standard or you’re of no (instrinsic!) value to me and you can go look for others to provide value for.

    *sigh* Its not that the person complaining that they are paying a lot of money and so get to criticize the school and demand changes is wrong – but she needs to understand exactly what the fuck she was buying when she (daddy) signed that tuition check. A huge part of the reason Hopkins is so expensive is that it has maintained a reputation for rigorous academic standards and she’s demanding the school dilute that. Making her $50k a year investment worthless if she succeeds.

    1. A huge part of the reason Hopkins is so expensive is that it has maintained a reputation for rigorous academic standards and she’s demanding the school dilute that. Making her $50k a year investment worthless if she succeeds.

      Maybe she’ll figure that out when the only job she can get is as a barista at Star Bucks because no one in their right mind will hire a JHU gra anymore, but I doubt it. Then she’ll just demand that her student loans be forgiven and a “living wage”.

  22. “Indeed, the overwhelming cost of attending college?”and the debt it implies?”no doubt provokes legitimate anxiety.”

    Adults make purchasing decisions every day. Purchasing an overpriced education might be a mistake. Getting into debt over it might be a mistake. Buy the education you can afford including the debt. There are other options for an education other than a $50K/year school.

    1. Surely you’re not suggesting these fragile snowflakes attend a *gasp* state school?! *clutches pearls, fall over onto fainting couch*

  23. Fuck that you fucking idiots. I worked my ass off taking 22 units and working 32 hours a week to get A’s and B’s. My classmates who preferred partying and slacking off got bad grades.

    Jesus Fucking Christ

  24. Lol, not surprising. Hopkins, being a private entity probably pushes the poor little snowflakes too hard. I know for sure they hold their faculty to a pretty high standard.

    1. As a Hopkins grad, I find this ridiculous. JHU has always been a tough school, they built their reputation on it. If the administration doesn’t tell these nitwits to go get fucked, I’m going to be disappointed.

      1. Hopkins is infected with the lefist brain deadening virus just about as much as anywhere these days, but it hasn’t changed much as far as what you’re saying. It’s a private school and the school of medicine is an elite establishment. I’ve done quite a bit of work for those guys, the medical campus that is, and I know quite a few people who work down there full time. So I know it pretty well.

      2. Episiarch is a Hopkins grad also, I haven’t seen him here in a while.

        1. I heard he looked at his old transcripts and promptly committed suicide from depression and anxiety.

          1. God, a lot of Hopkins grads here…

  25. I’m paying to have a support network, academically and mentally.

    And here I thought you were paying for an education.

    1. And here I thought you your parents or the government were paying for an education.

      FIFY

  26. How about not telling the students their grades until their four years is up? Didn’t earn your degree and now you’re 200K in debt? Tough shit.

  27. The everyone-gets-a-trophy generation, trying to bully their way past one “hardship” of life after another.

    When they cross middle age and have to face some real problems, it will be very ugly.

  28. And here I thought the point of going to school is to learn skills that that will allow you to earn more money.

    maybe that’s why so many of these fucks bitch about student debt. If you graduate with a ton of debt and can’t get a job to pay it off, then you fail.

    1. Nope, not anymore. Now it’s getting a piece of paper that ‘signals’ that you have skills that should demand more money. It’s all the same, right? Why should you be concerned if an ‘average’ student is doing your brain surgery or you’re flying on a jet designed by the ‘average’ student? What’s the difference, you privileged shitlord?

  29. Short people are disproportionately excluded from signing multi-million dollar NBA contracts. NO JUSTICE, NO DUNKS!

    Blind people are disproportionately affected by the requirements to become commercial and military pilots.

    So it’s no wonder to me that people who can’t immediately handle the rigors of college are disproportionately affected by policies that are designed to create competent, educated graduates in a minimal amount of time.

  30. “Yet more students say they are triggered by one of the most basic facets of the college experience: grades.”

    Imagine their pain upon getting a performance review at work!

    1. This is more of that “life isn’t a competition, here’s your participation medal crap.” Unfortunately for them, life is and always will be a competitive venture. Even in a perfect Roddenberry utopia where everyone does what they love, there’s competition. Not everyone gets the Captains chair. This “mommy life is scary” shit should be dealt with for what it is, STFU and do the work, you’ll feel better in the end.

  31. “I’ve heard a lot of feedback from parents and the administration that kind of makes it feel like we are just trying to be coddled, and it’s not it at all,” Taicz said. “I’m paying so much, I expect to be able to be critical of that service when it doesn’t support me.

    And by “support” he means “coddle”

  32. “You got me locked and loaded, professor…”

    *cough*

  33. IIRC Stanford freshmen classes are pass/fail.

    If you aren’t as academically elite as you thought you were, isn’t it better to spend $25k to discover this than $200k?

    Timpf is right.

  34. I went to Johns Hopkins – my freshman year was 1995. I found the pass/fail first semester (not the entire first year) useful as a transition, especially for those from less rigorous academic environments. One of the benefits is that it allowed you to take classes that you weren’t sure you’d succeed in without fear of taking a hit to your GPA. You do receive a letter grade in the class, it’s just reflected only as pass/fail on your transcript. I’d lobby to keep the policy, honestly.

  35. what, exactly, is the point of “earning” a degree, if it is not possible to fail? good way to guarantee that degrees will be worthless.

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  37. Erica Taicz belongs in a long-term care facility, not an institution of higher education. With a lot of hard work, she may recover from the damage her parents did by keeping her in bubble wrap all these years, but in any event she should immediately be expelled from Johns Hopkins.

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  38. If getting grades hits your fragile life like a truck… how did you survive the entire general education portion of your life that lasted for over 10 years (for most)?

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