Of Atom Bombs and Floppy Disks, Sanders' Last Stand, Amnesty International Says Decriminalize Prostitution Now: A.M. Links

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• A new report from the Government Accountability Office found that the Pentagon is still using eight-inch floppy disks of the variety generally phased out in the '70s for programs coordinating intercontinental ballistic missiles and nuclear bombers.  
• Human-rights group Amnesty International released its new official (and controversial) policy on prostitution yesterday, calling for governments around the world to "decriminalize consensual sex work."
• France says there will be "no retreat" from strict new labor regulations. 
• "The Sanders movement has become impervious to reality," suggests The Atlantic's Molly Ball. 
• Sexism against women on Twitter is equally perpetuated by men and women, according to a new report from the think tank Demos. 
• Cuyahoga County, Ohio, has become the first in Ohio and the nation to offer full-time female and male employees six months of paid parental leave. 
• South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley signed into law Wednesday a ban on abortion after 20 weeks.
• How Native Americans in Arizona are fighting for food sovereignty.  

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[Bee Tagger]

"The Sanders movement has become impervious to reality,"

SuperBernieBros

[UnCivilServant]

Reality plays the long game, and it always wins in the end.

[Juvenile Bluster]

You'd be surprised how hard the Bernie fans are fighting reality though.

Okay, you probably wouldn't. But reality's kicking them in the face at this point and they're not noticing.

[Shirley Knott]

'become'???

[Lee G]

I think that imperviousness set in sometime around 1966.

[Mustang]

*squints suspiciously at commenter who is not Fist.*

[Fist of Etiquette]

He was given the power and now he's abusing it.

[CatoTheChipper]

For there to be a Sanders movement, it must have already been impervious to reality.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

If a bear has a Sanders movement in the woods, does it make a sound?

[straffinrun]

Not if it's ass is watertight.

[Rufus The Monocled Derp Slayer]

Hello.

"France says there will be "no retreat" from strict new labor regulations."

A new spin on La Resitance.

[Rational Exuberance]

More like a new spin on "Let them eat cake."

[PBR Streetgang]

Has anyone read "The True Believer"? Started it yesterday and it is alarmingly accurate in its description of Sanders' supporters, as well as, to a lesser extent, Trump's. Though it was written in 1951, it could have been written this year. HIGHLY recommend.

[Renegade Jew]

My dad gave that to me when I was a kid. I never recovered and now... I'm a libertarian.

[waffles]

Thanks for the recommendation. Skimmed the wiki on the book and it looks like a pdf is easy to find. My not yet caffeinated mind seems to think this applies to anyone who gets heavily involved in a political campaign with no obvious personal gain. Interdasting.

[PBR Streetgang]

Having read only the 1st section of the book so far, I think your assessment is spot on. The difference, I guess, is the intensity with which people throw themselves into such movements and their belief in the movement's moral correctness. Fascinating book.

[Restoras]

Just ordered it

[Sevo]

"Has anyone read "The True Believer"?"
Re-read it last year. Could be written better, but the content remains valid for the most part.

[Suell]

The first year I went to a community college I had a great anthropology professor (who wouldn't stand a chance in hell at getting that position today). He highly recommended "The True Believer" and I enjoyed it very much. I should probably reread it as well.

[GILMORE?]

Has anyone read "The True Believer"?

A half dozen times. Its not the book that "made me" libertarian, but it cemented a lot of things I'd always believed about politics and psychology.

To that point = Libertarians (in the Hoffer view) are in many ways simply "people more interested in their own lives than other people's".

Libertarianism is simply a name we give to a widely-shared, rarely-expressed desire to be free from other people's endless compulsion to 'improve the world'.

Its a great book, and it provides insights into almost any group dynamics... the nature of why people identify with groups ahead of themselves as individuals.

Its also pleasingly well-written for a book on modern politics. Hoffer had no education at all and developed his writing style from reading and re-reading essayists like Montaigne. Its as much a book about how godawful Academic writing is as anything else.

[PBR Streetgang]

Wow, I didn't realize Hoffer lacked a formal education. I was wondering why he didn't write like an academic and thought it more a function of the book having been written in the '50s. Thanks for pointing that out, makes his insights even more interesting.

[Citizen X]

Hoffer worked as a longshoreman on the docks of San Francisco, i believe, and wrote amazingly insightful philosophical treatises just as a hobby.

[Agammamon]

Say the people who are willfully ignoring that he got 5-6 seats on the committee that will write the Democratic Party's platform.

They, like most people, ignore what's truly important. Getting into the White House is irrelevant if you don't have the support to enact policy. And if you are the one *writing* that policy, you can get the person in the OO to do what they're told.

I'm sure Sanders would *like* to be President, as a personal coup and validation, but he's going to walk away from this one completely satisfied with his performance and political gains.

Even if he ends up back in the Senate he's shown that he has enough backing that he simply can't be ignored or threatened and must be negotiated with.

Whether deliberate or accidental, he's done some amazing power maneuvering recently.

[waffles]

For Bernie, sure, this was a tremendous personal gain. For his legions of followers, not so much. A tiny but significant minority of Bernie's support comes from a group that has no problem fucking up the DNC, Trump, or whoever they see as the enemy as much as they can. Is that a win for Bernie? Maybe.

[Agammamon]

Who cares about the legions of followers? Clinton doesn't, Trump doesn't. None of them do. They're all useful idiots.

What Sanders has given them is a pretty nice consolation prize. One that is pretty arguably better than they would get if he actually got elected - then he would have to make good on all the 'free-shit' rhetoric he's been using to rile up his base. Instead they get to be major spoilers to the mainstream that they dislike while still getting a pretty large voice in where the party goes in the future.

[Azathoth!!]

Whoa--you're so right. Getting to help write the Dems 'vision statement' is so much more important than getting to be president.

[gaoxiaen]

Feel the Johnson.

[Fist of Etiquette]

How Native Americans in Arizona are fighting for food sovereignty.

How.

[Swiss Servator]

*narrows gaze*

[Groovus Maximus]

Might I suggest, "Arrows Gaze," for that full flavoured, aboriginal effect? In keeping with the theme, and such...

[Restoras]

Or even "Arrows Maize"?

[Fist of Etiquette]

No. That's too much.

[Swiss Servator]

*silently draws crysknife*

[Rufus The Monocled Derp Slayer]

I hope this is not his technique on dealing with parents.

[Just a thought not a sermon]

183) I've been seeing a lot lately about how 46% of Americans wouldn't be able to cover a $400 emergency expense. The Washington Post article takes the usual approach?that this is some sort of indictment of the US economy. Not true at all, this is completely about personal responsibility. Income level has nothing to do with it. Notice that the article points out even 19% of those with incomes about $100,000 wouldn't be able to cover a $400 emergency.
The situation here is not that people can't afford to save?it's that they lack the discipline or common sense to have a little money set aside.

[Libertarian]

I had no idea that people with 6 figure incomes did not have access to ATMs.

[PBR Streetgang]

Or credit cards.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

It is entirely possible to live hand to mouth on $10K a month.

Maxing out CCs and paying minimums while impulse spending on the latest and greatest.

Having the right kind of drug habit can do a pretty good job of that, too.

Having money spent before it even really hits your bank account is a time-honored tradition.

[commodious spittoon]

I know a woman who had to sit down with her grown son and try to teach him some financial wherewithal. The guy worked a minimum-wage job, had a high truck payment, and had just borrowed a couple grand at high interest to pay for pricey rims. Stupid, right? A couple months later he's in jail for domestic violence.

Dumb decisions put people in bad situations.

[SQRLSY One]

Hey man, as long as I have blank checks in my check-book, I can always write more checks...

Right?!??! RIGHT!??!?!

Hey Man, as long as it works for Government Almighty, it should work for MMMMEEEE!!!!

[Rational Exuberance]

And this is why we need minimum wage, affordable housing, free universities, and government healthcare! So that dissolute six figure income earners can indulge in their expensive drug habits and satisfy their cravings for electronics!

[Bra Ket]

My theory is that is the percentage of respondents who mistakenly thought the pollster was asking them for money, and so lied about not having any access to cash. Like I always tell panhandlers. So the stats tell us how the ability to accurately understand the question improves with higher income level.

Too bad they didn't break the numbers down any further so we could see how many "one percenters" also suffered from poor "economic well being".

[Hamster of Doom]

We're so far below the poverty limit, it's only viewable through the Hubble telescope. And yet we could put up orders of magnitude more than that in an emergency.

Much like Congress, most people don't have a revenue problem, they have a spending problem.

[Certified Public Asshat]

Being poor is expensive. The more money you have, the cheaper things become (think, for example, about a car loan, where the more you make, the higher your credit score, and the lower the loan rate).

Or, poor people have bad habits which keeps them poor. Like buying cars at 20% interest.

[Suell]

Currently the most broke ass individual I know just sold his Hummer last year for a fraction of its value. He wa about to get it repossessed before he did so. He had a 26% interest loan. He had been paying the loan for over four years. He put down more than half the purchase price when he "bought" it.

[Chip Woodier]

"The bank called me up, they said 'Hi, we're calling you because you don't have enough money.' I said, I know! They said 'You have insufficient funds,' and I said, well, I agree with that. I find my funds to be grossly insufficient! Thanks for calling? Why are you mad at me? I don't understand what?How is this something I'm doing to you? She was like, 'Sir, you only have $20, that's not enough. You can't only have $20!' I was like, look, I'm not being broke just to fuck with you, I really don't have any money! I'm not trying to be a dick, I just?my life is shitty!" - Louis C.K., Comedy God

[Warty]

Being poor is a habit. And if you can't come up with a pitiful $400, you're fucking poor.

[Renegade Jew]

I'm poor. Unless I can get you to lend it to me...

[commodious spittoon]

Cash in some of that Jew gold you go on about, you piker.

[Rufus The Monocled Derp Slayer]

Absolutely. If you can't cover $400, you're doing it wrong.

[UnCivilServant]

That's $400 american. Not Canukistani funny money,

[Rufus The Monocled Derp Slayer]

Your comments has been flagged for...er...fuck...let's go with 'hate speech'.

[Steve G]

Canadian hate speech? Does not compute...

[UnCivilServant]

"Hate speech" in Canadia includes disagreeing with the official position on things.

[But Enough About Me]

Any "things," pretty much. **HEAVY SIGH**

[Citizen X]

Real money doesn't have colorful pictures of animals on it, it is known.

[But Enough About Me]

That's $400 american. Not Canukistani funny money.

Fine. $500.00 CDN. Happy now?

[Rational Exuberance]

Do you know what else is too funny? Their stupid monopoly money!

[straffinrun]

I know this dude that couldn't come up with $19 trillion in an emergency and he's doing just fine.

[Just a thought not a sermon]

If you owe somebody $400, that's your problem. If you somebody $19 trillion, that's their problem.

[Groovus Maximus]

John McClane: Why'd you have to nuke the whole building, Hans?

Hans Gruber: Well, when you steal $600, you can just disappear. When you steal 600 million, they will find you, unless they think you're already dead.

[This Machine]

+1 exceptional thief

[SparktheRevolt]

46% of Americans sound really not street smart. I could find a loan shark in less than a day if I needed to.

[Certified Public Asshat]

Um, the 46% of Americans would not be able to cover a $400 emergency with cash.

[Elspeth Flashman]

In my line of work I routinely have people pay me from sources they never thought they had (in amounts much larger than $400) because they need my services as soon as possible. I think if the emergency arose, these people in the survey would also be able to cover the cost.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Hmmmm. Hitman/hitwoman? Coyote? Meth dealer? Don't leave us hanging!

[Private Chipperbot]

if the emergency arose

Stripper.

[Elspeth Flashman]

Attorney at law. Family law and criminal law, to boot.

[Rational Exuberance]

So, stripper/hitman/meth dealer all in one then? 🙂

[waffles]

Personal what now? C'mon preacher, I have bills to pay and I'm working three jobs over here!

[Zeb]

Yup. Unless you are homeless and unemployed or really old or something, there is no reason anyone can't keep $400 in savings.

You can even appear to live beyond your means if you are careful with money. I certainly wasn't poor growing up, but my parents combined income was never more than my current income (adjusted, by my guess, for inflation), which is just a little higher than the median US income. But they were good savers and didn't buy a lot of new stuff so they always had enough for an emergency, or to buy a new car with cash, or take the occasional trip to Europe. You can live pretty well on a fairly modest income if you aren't an idiot.

[Libertarian]

I don't think the Reason commentariat is a representative slice of society. My wife used to work in a homeless shelter. She estimated "crazy" people and "not bright" people at about 50%. But I think a lot of poor people (who aren't homeless) are victims of their own intelligence. People take advantage of them, number one. They've never had the benefit of someone sitting down with them and doing the math (showing them that they can save money for emergencies if they dropped cable TV, for instance). Number two, as someone mentioned above, there was a recent article on how you're at a disadvantage if your poor, i.e. you don't get volume discounts, etc.

The good news is that these people are living in an age of relative abundance, and don't have to worry about starving in the streets as they did in Dickens's day.

[Groovus Maximus]

^^This

[Zeb]

No, clearly not representative. As you say, many people just don't have that discipline and knowledge to handle money.
I'm actuality kind of lazy about that stuff. I can't be bothered to make a budget or regularly check my bank balance. But it's so ingrained in me that I just naturally spend a lot less than I earn. And when I find I have too much in the bank, I look for some more productive investment to put it into. Probably helps that I don't have kids, but it works and isn't hard. Don't think about what you could buy with what you have. Think about what you actually need or really want.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Right on. But it also about delayed gratification and self control. I have family members that do not even think about saving for retirement. If they make it to old age, they will be living off social security. I seriously wonder how they would survive without it.

[Rational Exuberance]

The good news is that these people are living in an age of relative abundance, and don't have to worry about starving in the streets as they did in Dickens's day.

The bad news is that the knowledge that our extensive safety net also keeps people from being motivated to change. You subsidize poverty/obesity/whatever, you get more of it.

[gaoxiaen]

Duh!

[Akira]

Here's what always boggles my mind: every "progressive" I know has, at some point or another, related to me a story about someone they know who spends money like an idiot... A guy who buys weed and concert tickets while the electric bill goes unpaid; a girl who took out a loan to get breast implants; a guy who lives in a filthy hovel but has a $12,000 TV...

Yet, in other conversations, these "progressives" will go off on a tirade about how poverty is directly caused by the Koch Brothers and income inequality, blah blah blah. As if personal choices have nothing to do with it.

[Bee Tagger]

Sexism against women on Twitter is equally perpetuated by men and women, according to a new report from the think tank Demos.

Classic case of tanksplaining.

[Hamster of Doom]

It's almost as if they're defining sexism as "being a douchebag".

[Feminist Killjoy]

Equal opportunity douchebaggery!

[Zeb]

It seems like some people have decided that saying certain magic words is, all by itself, sexist or racist or whatever. That's what is behind the whole notion of "hate speech", which I find a ridiculous concept.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Magic words without a material component? Ridiculous!

[Hamster of Doom]

It's almost as if they're defining sexism as "being a douchebag".

[Slammer]

Squirrels are douchebags.

[straffinrun]

Especially in a summer breeze.

[Lee G]

I think you may have a mouse problem.

[Notorious UGCC]

Apparently, calling someone a "slut" or "whore" is misogynistic, even if it's totally true like with that slut Janice, and did you see her *shoes*?

[gaoxiaen]

Turned out., NTTAWWT.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Do you have Janice's number perchance?

[Zeb]

Did they study sexism towards men as well? Every time you call me a dick, you are reducing me to one body part and making me nothing but an object.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Cuyahoga County, Ohio, has become the first in Ohio and the nation to offer full-time female and male employees six months of paid parental leave.

BUT WHAT BATHROOM CAN THEY USE?

[Libertarian]

Considering a lot of government employees only work half time already, why don't they just go ahead and call this unemployment income or welfare.

[Longtorso, Johnny]

RoK: Liberals Petition Marvel For A Homosexual Captain America

[Juvenile Bluster]

That would a

[Juvenile Bluster]

Fucking squirrels.

"That would at least be better than Nazi Captain America seriously WTF Marvel?"

[But Enough About Me]

Imagine if they combine the two. We'd have to storm Marvel Studios and burn it to the ground.

[AlmightyJB]

Wait I thought he already was gay

[MetalBard]

You're thinking of Captain France.

[gaoxiaen]

Or Captain Pugwash.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

Captain France's weapon is stinky cheese.

[MetalBard]

Excellent trolling on their part.

[straffinrun]

Captain Tennille and Bob?

[Domestic Dissident]

Next, Agent Peggy Carter and Mystique meet in a bizarre time travel scenario and hot lesbo action ensues.

[Juvenile Bluster]

I'm sure somebody's already written that fan fiction.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

Oh my!

There is probably fanfic somewhere already covering this.

[Feminist Killjoy]

Just go on Tumblr and specify with Bucky, Falcon, etc.

[Zeb]

Couldn't they just sort of not explore the sexuality of a comic book superhero? Is that really necessary? That outfit is pretty gay, though.

I think the question that really needs to be answered is whether Captain America would be pitcher or catcher.

[Slammer]

WTF is an eight inch floppy?

[UnCivilServant]

They existed before the five inch floppies, which predated the 3.25 inch floppies that we only phased out last year.

[Bra Ket]

Ahem, 5.25 inch, then 3.5 inch.

[UnCivilServant]

No wonder I could never find replacement media - I was on the bootleg standard!

[KerryW]

In college we used punched cards, and before that I programmed with paper tape (on a machine with 400 bytes of memory).

[UnCivilServant]

The box of punch cards is in the next cube over. (I kid you not)

[But Enough About Me]

I hated de-bugging those programs.

[Rich]

Ask SugarFree.

Or your mom.

[DJF]

"Get off my lawn, kid" Shaking my cane!!!!

[Libertarian]

Where I come from, it's either a complaint or a brag.

[straffinrun]

The reason pant suits don't have a zipper.

[Swiss Servator]

Thanks all of you, you didn't disappoint!

[Chip Woodier]

I would be willing to bet that any 8" floppy drives that are still being used by the military are built into hardware that (since manufactured to government specs to survive an apocalypse) are still functioning normally and don't need upgrading. These floppies aren't being used to store your mom's recipes.

[Shirley Knott]

And they're making progress after all -- the floppies pictured are soft-sectored, not hard-sectored. My first job was working with networked Z80-processor based workstations that used hard-sectored 8" disks. But that was the last I saw of them.

[Steve G]

And just try to hack that shit...

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

^^This is exactly why.

[Bra Ket]

And the best part is some dumbass probably has a very lucrative contract to support this ancient shit precisely because it's so obsolete that the expertise is increasingly rare.

[Stilgar]

And its naive comments like yours that result in our wonderful government employees doing stupid things and wasting boatloads of money on "improvements" that offer no additional functionality while increase system risk and security.

They have in place a system that is a) known to work b) known to work well c) does not need a 'do-over' to satisify some yearning to 'be modern' and d) is fucking secure. No passing of hidden virus by usb dongle. No hacked firmware. No Stuxnet.

The cost of buying new 8" floppies is minimal compared to any upgrade. And BTW, this "story" is at least two years old. Want some floppies? Go here: http://www.athana.com/html/athana.html

[Bra Ket]

Also (e) costs somewhere in the ballpark of a trillion dollars a year.

Tell me more about how the central planners are the smart efficient ones versus everyone else who uses new technology. I wonder why they developed all those new technologies anyway, the naive fools probably thought they would achieve the opposite results as in your little list.

[Agammamon]

Its what dudes tell their dates they have in their computer.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

A shower, not a grower.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

WTF is an eight inch floppy?

Looks like we got ourselves a millenial.

[Spits tobacco chew onto the ground]

[Slammer]

I'm 48. I was setting up dick jokes!

[sesuncedu]

Need them sometimes to pull stuff out of a Wang.

[Longtorso, Johnny]

Is having a loving family an unfair advantage?
...'What we realised we needed was a way of thinking about what it was we wanted to allow parents to do for their children, and what it was that we didn't need to allow parents to do for their children, if allowing those activities would create unfairnesses for other people's children'....

...Private schooling cannot be justified by appeal to these familial relationship goods,' he says. 'It's just not the case that in order for a family to realise these intimate, loving, authoritative, affectionate, love-based relationships you need to be able to send your child to an elite private school.'

In contrast, reading stories at bedtime, argues Swift, gives rise to acceptable familial relationship goods, even though this also bestows advantage.

'The evidence shows that the difference between those who get bedtime stories and those who don't?the difference in their life chances?is bigger than the difference between those who get elite private schooling and those that don't,' he says....

[UnCivilServant]

Short answer: no.

Lon answer: Noooooooooo.

[Just a thought not a sermon]

Harrison Bergeron is just around the corner.

[Injun, as in from India]

^THIS.

And it will all be self-inflicted by idiots outvoting the sane.

[Libertarian]

As usual, I did not click the link and read the article. However, I assume the writer believes that life is a zero sum game, and that if someone is doing better, it is because some else is doing worse, That libertarians and conservatives believe that progress is made by enlarging the pie, and "progressives" believe it's a fixed pie that we fight over is the crux of most of society's political disagreements.

[CatoTheChipper]

The philosopher guy just wants to eliminate what he calls "unnecessary inequality". It's a dimwitted spin on Rawls, though the philosopher guy only mentions Plato.

This article is the kind of nonsense that issues forth when equality is asserted as an ideal.

[straffinrun]

A Vial of ignorance.

[BiMonSciFiCon]

or vile

[R C Dean]

"progressives" believe it's a fixed pie that we fight over

The crab bucket society.

[Rhywun]

It takes a village.

[CatoTheChipper]

...what it was we wanted to allow parents to do ...
...what it was that we didn't need to allow parents to do...

I don't think that even the Nazis talked like that.

Sure, Goebbels was determined to make sure that the kinder were indoctrinated to understand that they were just atoms comprising the greater Volk that owed its allegiance to the Nation. And, sure, the Nazis shut down parochial schools and mandated that all children were to attend state schools for this indoctrination. But I don't think Goebbels was quite this transparent in admitting that the Nazi state was so totalitarian that it defined what it would allow or forbid with respect to the the relationship between parents and their own children.

[Glide]

Fairs are for tourists.

[Notorious UGCC]

"Swift in particular has been conflicted for some time over the curious situation that arises when a parent wants to do the best for her child but in the process makes the playing field for others even more lopsided."

Duh, giving your kids a leg up vis-a-vis the other kids is a fairly important part of the equation.

[Notorious UGCC]

Good thing for him Australia isn't ancient Athens, he'd have been hemlocked by now.

[Agent Cooper]

My answer to when I'm asked "Why are you a Libertarian?" is "Because I don't care about everybody."

[Notorious UGCC]

Allow me to suggest what seems a paradox - if you don't care about your kids, it's more difficult to care about everybody.

Someone who can't muster up the needed caring for their own family is going to have trouble being caring about the whole human race.

In contrast, someone virtuous enough to do his duty by his family has the moral traits which can help him see his duties toward the broader human family.

Don't get suckered into the prog narrative of how libertarians don't care about people. If y'all didn't care, why would you be so interested in protecting strangers from, say, police abuse?

[UnCivilServant]

If y'all didn't care, why would you be so interested in protecting strangers from, say, police abuse?

Because I don't want it to ever be my turn to have my face kicked in by a jackboot yelling "Stop resisting!"

[Notorious UGCC]

All right, but it shows higher order thinking to get that far, don't sell yourself short, dude.

[Illocust]

That could be solved by being a police officer yourself, or becoming a progressive bureaucrat. You'r echoosing the hardest route to prevent the possibility.

[Agammamon]

Unfortunately its people who see themselves as having a duty towards the broader human family that have caused so much misery throughout history and are wrecking this country today.

You don't think Sanders feels he has a duty towards humanity to compel you to fulfill your duty to pay for someone else's college?

Libertarians are libertarian precisely because we do not believe that we have a duty towards others or that we are required to act 'for your own good'. The 'public good' stuff we believe in doing is rooted completely in selfishness - I help defend you against that mugger because a) I would hope that you would return the favor and b) it makes mugging less attractive so that I'm less likely to be mugged at all.

[Chip Woodier]

The problem isn't "people who see themselves as having a duty towards the broader human family" but those that see themselves as having a duty to force others to have a duty towards the broader human family.

[Agammamon]

And they see that as their duty towards the broader human family.

[Rational Exuberance]

If y'all didn't care, why would you be so interested in protecting strangers from, say, police abuse?

Policing is a local matter. I care about policing in my community, not in Detroit, or NYC, or the UK, or Germany, or Russia; those people make their own choices and have to live with them.

[Agent Cooper]

"Some still think the traditional family has a lot to answer for, but some plausible arguments remain in favour of it."

What the hell does this even mean?

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

MOAR ORFANZ1!11!

4 MI MINEZ!!11!!!11

[Elspeth Flashman]

In other words "yes, the traditional family is responsible for a lot of society's hang ups (like favoring male dominated organizations, underpaying women, and shunning homosexuality), but maybe there's still a reason - however small - that it should exist."

[Suell]

That is some evil shit right there.

[waffles]

You're a terrible parent if you aren't trying to give your child every opportunity to be as successful as they can. Yes, parents have unequal abilities to help their children. No, mandated bedtime readings won't help anyone.

[Agammamon]

I would not think that you're a terrible parent if you refrained from breaking a competing child's leg in order to give yours a headstart.

[UnCivilServant]

-1 Tonya Harding

[Zeb]

Life isn't fair. Get over it. Or don't be a shitty parent.

[Juice]

Friday 1 May 2015

[BiMonSciFiCon]

did Robby forget the links that day?

[Bee Tagger]

France says there will be "no retreat" from strict new labor regulations.

What could possibly be funny about this phrasing?

[UnCivilServant]

France doesn't retreat - it surrenders.

[KerryW]

Actually it's a horrible phrasing -- they are not retreating (yes, they chose that word for a reason) from relaxing regulations.

[Pat (PM)]

Final F-35 Testing Slips To 2018

WASHINGTON ? The military's top weapons tester has been warning for months that the F-35 will not be ready for its final test phase until 2018 at the earliest. On Tuesday, the Pentagon officially acknowledged the schedule slip.

"We reviewed the status of operational test planning, and there is consensus that that is likely to occur in calendar year 2018 given the realities of the schedule at this time," said Frank Kendall, the Pentagon's top acquisition official, during a Tuesday conference call. "The target was the middle of 2017, but it's clear we're not going to make that."

This slip reflects a six-month delay for initial operational test and evaluation, or IOT&E, the last major period of testing before full-rate production. IOT&E will test the F-35's full combat capability, verifying the jets can fly real, operational missions as intended.

[Restoras]

Jesus. Just scrap the thing and start flying Phantoms again.

[Mustang]

Ugh, F4s.

I'll be in my bunk.

[tarran]

The F-4, for reasons that are completely inexplicable, is my favorite jet fighter.

[Restoras]

That is inexplicable. My favorites are the F-86 and the F-14.

[tarran]

I can understand the F-14, but am baffled by the F-86.

Its one advantage was a larger fuel tank than the MiGs it tangled with.

The MiG-15 could out turn the F-86 thanks to its lower wing loading. The MiG-15 had a much better thrust to weight ratio so it could outclimb the F-86. The MiG-15 had cannon while the F-86 had a set of 50 cal machine guns firing solid bullets.

Sure the MiG-15 had a tendency to go into unrecoverable spins, and its elevators made it impossible to get it out of a deep stall, and its O2 system was very dodgy, and the F-86 was far superior in those areas, but I just don't see it as a lovable airplane.

So its four advantages were: better endurance, better O2 system, better spin handling, better stall handling, and an almost fanatical devotion to the pope.

[Restoras]

I like the F-86 because it looks cool. That's it.

[waffles]

That's the absolute best reason to love any aircraft.

[Krokko]

Me too!

[Crusty Juggler]

That is just the Air Force version, too.

[Restoras]

Guessing the navy version is further behind.

[Agammamon]

Imagine the problems with the Marine version. And the gear its meant to interface with. The AC is already compromised by the need for the Marine version's vertical fan and the Navy is having to send ships intended to operate the craft back to the yards to have their decks refit to accommodate the much higher than originally specified temperatures and exhaust velocities.

[Lee G]

I was tangentially involved in the deck problems. They're having to develop thermal spray coatings for the decks because the plane is cooking the old coatings off just while it warms up (45 minutes).

It's a complete clusterfuck.

[Restoras]

This is....appalling. How could no one think of this well beforehand?

[Lee G]

Industrial-military-congressional complex

There is no logic involved outside of perverted incentives.

[Agammamon]

They did. But that was 20 freaking years ago. The planes have gone through significant development and not every change gets through to every part of all the relevant projects.

10 years ago when these ships were being designed someone dropped a spec document on someone else's desk and the ship were built with that spec in mind.

8 years ago the spec was changed. 6 years ago it was changed again, and again and again.

[This Machine]

Ooh, ooh, did you hear about how they use the fuel system to cool the avionics? Only that doesn't work on hot, sunny days, because the fuel heats up on the tarmac and becomes ineffective as a coolant. So now they have little tarpaulin shelters for each plane to keep them in the shade, and they have to use refrigerated fuel trucks. Good thing we don't deploy to anywhere hot and sunny!

The amount of sheer mental retardation on this total clownshow of a program boggles the mind.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

That sounds similar to one of the major failings of the M1 Tank.

For its size and speed, it is incredibly fuel efficient, when moving across the battlefield.

They failed to consider the huge amounts of time that a tank spends sitting idling, however.

That 1500 hp turbine that runs at high efficiency while in its operating range, burns fuel like it's running out on the ground when at an idle.

Retrofitting APUs and modifying later power plants are some things that have helped.

[Agammamon]

its actually not fuel efficient when running across the battlefield.

The disconnect is the difference between *tactical* speed and *strategic* speed.

Nothing can outrun the M-1 during a tactical advance. But the fuel inefficiency means that it has to stop to refuel 3 or more times a day, while a diesel tank of comparable power might do so every 24-36 hours. And then there's the follow-on effects that you need three trucks to follow the tanks with fuel *plus* another truck to follow the trucks to fuel them.

So we have situations where the M-1 sprint and rest while the enemy simply keeps trundling away from us without stopping.

unfortunately you're not going be able to fit a 1500 hp diesel into the M-1's powerplant dimensions - to do so you'd need to redesign the rear end. And a 1200 HP plant is too low-powered for a 63,000 kg war engine.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

That is why I said 'moving'.

As to size, you actually can fit a 1500 diesel power-pack into smaller dimensions thatn an M1.

while the engine itself is miniscule, the other accoutrement (primarily the heat exchanger, induction paths, and transmission) use up so much real estate, that a v12 diesel ends up requiring less space.

Shortfall is that this engine puts a lot less torque to the ground and uses significantly more fuel to move but hardly any when idling.

[But Enough About Me]

FORTY-FIVE MINUTES?

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you operational readiness at a moment's notice!

[waffles]

The F-35 keeps on slippin slippin into the future.

[Just a thought not a sermon]

"the Pentagon is still using eight-inch floppy disks of the variety generally phased out in the '70s for programs coordinating intercontinental ballistic missiles and nuclear bombers."

Thank God. I sure as hell don't want that stuff relying on Microsoft or whatever.

[Hamster of Doom]

That's what the international space station said.

[DJF]

Good news, it probably makes them more secure since it would be harder for someone to substitute their own floppy disks for original ones

[Just a thought not a sermon]

This too.

[Just a thought not a sermon]

To expand a little, if we came up with an effective program in the 1970s, one that would be nearly impossible to improve on, why should we update it with new technology just for the sake of updating it?

[DaveSs]

Because the hardware it runs on it has a limited life span and is not being produced any more.

Also because the people that maintain the code are all in their 60s and are pretty much the only people who can maintain it.

[Shirley Knott]

And because the failure rate on floppies is measured in much smaller units than the failure rate of most newer media. Digital is not forever! Archive copies on floppies are like making archive copies of books with writing in the sand.

[Jerryskids]

Does a BASIC program on an eight-inch floppy disk run different than one on a thumb drive? Does anybody on E-bay still even sell the eight-inch floppy drives, or is the Pentagon paying IBM 30 or 40 million a year to keep an eight-inch floppy drive production line operating?

[waffles]

Nope, good point. I've run legacy analytical software that was based on FORTRAN off a thumb drive in a DOS window on a Win95 virtual machine. There's no reason something similar cannot be done.

[Rational Exuberance]

This isn't a new problem. You can get boxes that have a floppy interface on one side (plugging into the old hardware) and accept USB drives on the other side.

[SparktheRevolt]

Doesn't this actually make it kind of safer since it would be impervious to cyber attacks?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Sexism against women on Twitter is equally perpetuated by men and women, according to a new report from the think tank Demos.

Meowsogyny.

[Notorious UGCC]

+1

[Hamster of Doom]

A new report from the Government Accountability Office found that the Pentagon is still using eight-inch floppy disks of the variety generally phased out in the '70s for programs coordinating intercontinental ballistic missiles and nuclear bombers.

And for security reasons, all video is formatted for Betamax.

[Lee G]

Laserdisc or GTFO

[Renegade Jew]

U-Matic.

[Lee G]

You old

[Renegade Jew]

Hey, I still remember CD-4 and SQ.

[Agammamon]

I remember having to change the channel by hand and you watched what was on tv when you turned it on or you didn't watch anything at all.

[waffles]

Everything's better on a laserdisc.

[Bee Tagger]

the Pentagon is still using eight-inch floppy disks of the variety generally phased out in the '70s for programs coordinating intercontinental ballistic missiles and nuclear bombers.

THEY NEED MORE OF THE BUDGET. Did I spin that correctly?

[Glide]

Project estimate - update to flash drives: $800 billion

[Glide]

Operating cost estimate - maintain the flash drive program: $15 billion annually

[Longtorso, Johnny]

Turd Flinging Monkey :Be A Man. Sacrifice Yourself! (Response to Prager U.)

[Fist of Etiquette]

France says there will be "no retreat" from strict new labor regulations.

So Frogs have to surrender to them?

[John]

There is always a for France to run.

[Groovus Maximus]

Assuming you meant to type, "...always a place for France...", John: Gerard Depardieu agrees, tovarishh.-D

[John]

It turns out one of the lead protesters at the De Paul fiasco is the daughter of a Chicago cop. I guess we know why the DePaul police didn't do anything.

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/.....ilos-face/

[Haven "Irish" Monahan]

Actually, the DePaul cops wanted to intervene and were told to stand down by the administration.

Milo has some tremendous grounds for a lawsuit

[Pat (PM)]

Foxconn replaces '60,000 factory workers with robots'

Apple and Samsung supplier Foxconn has reportedly replaced 60,000 factory workers with robots.

One factory has "reduced employee strength from 110,000 to 50,000 thanks to the introduction of robots", a government official told the South China Morning Post.

Xu Yulian, head of publicity for the Kunshan region, added: "More companies are likely to follow suit."

China is investing heavily in a robot workforce.

In a statement to the BBC, Foxconn Technology Group confirmed that it was automating "many of the manufacturing tasks associated with our operations" but denied that it meant long-term job losses.

"We are applying robotics engineering and other innovative manufacturing technologies to replace repetitive tasks previously done by employees, and through training, also enable our employees to focus on higher value-added elements in the manufacturing process, such as research and development, process control and quality control.

"We will continue to harness automation and manpower in our manufacturing operations, and we expect to maintain our significant workforce in China."

[UnCivilServant]

No, no, no, Foxconn is now abusing 60,000 fewer people.

[Restoras]

Wrong, they are still abusing 50,000!

[UnCivilServant]

which is 60,000 fewer than they were.

Do you even math?

[Restoras]

Nope, I have a robot do my math.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

Those 50K are being more abused because they aren't being provided with the opportunity to do other, more enriching things.

/prog math is easy if you don't think about it

[Steve G]

Less.
/doesn't know how any of this works

[Longtorso, Johnny]

Turd Flinging Monkey: News: Libertarian Gynocentrism

[UnCivilServant]

Wait... robots are now cheaper than even chinese laborers?

That means we can start building factories here again!

*gets hit by a zoning complaint from NIMBYs and a demand for an environmental impact survey*

Oh, right.

[Libertarian]

Seriously, I've recently fascinated by the idea of a "post scarcity" society. Can any of you brainiacs recommend a book or two on the subject?

[Drake]

The Unincorporated Man

Accelerando

[Libertarian]

*become

[tarran]

James Hogan's Voyage From Yesteryear.

[Agammamon]

Anything in the latter 'The Fall Revolution' series by Ken Macleod - if you can stomach the 'socialist revolution sweeps the world and ushers in the end of the state' history that precedes it (and the handwavy way its accomplished).

Outside of that its pretty good, has a decent post-scarcity libertarian vs post-scarcity socialist culture conflict - and he even treats libertarianism fairly. Its obvious that he finds libertopia to be the desired end-state, he just, for some reason that ignores all of actual history, thinks socialism is how we'll get there.

[Citizen X]

if you can stomach the 'socialist revolution sweeps the world and ushers in the end of the state'

I like how, even though he's a socialist himself, MacLeod still portrays the ancap society at the other end of the wormhole as a much, much nicer place to live than socialist Earth.

[Juice]

It's not the best book ever, but The Midas Plague (1954).

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

Revelations?

[SugarFree]

The Player of Games, Iain Banks

[Trumps Disappointing Poll]

Aren't you that loser who is constantly running sockpuppets?

[Azathoth!!]

Anything in John Varley's 8 Worlds series--or the related books that sorta fit is pretty post-scarcity

[Libertarian]

Plot twist: since the robots use 8" disks, it took 130,000 of them to replace the 60,000 workers.

[Agammamon]

But since they're straight capital and depreciation can be written off the evil KKKoporation still makes a profit.

[Jerryskids]

We're truly boned if China is automating the terking er jerbs. At some point they'll automate the process of automating jerbs and then everything will be available for free and how can we compete with free? Everything being made for free by robots, from extracting raw materials to building robot-repairing robot factories, is a nightmare scenario for humanity.

[Restoras]

+1 nightmare scenario SkyNet/Matrix

[John]

The nightmare scenario is that things get so cheap and we get so rich that no one has to work anymore. Human beings crave meaning and purpose. The horrible societal effects of unemployment and welfare are well documented. What happens when almost no one has to work for society to be rich? That sounds like paradise but would more likely be hell on earth as people went insane trying to find meaning and purpose to their lives.

[Agammamon]

Better than the alternative. Which is to step back, shut down, and stay right here.

Then the aliens will be saying this to *us*.

http://i.imgur.com/MEgVf.jpg

[John]

I am not so sure about that. And likely if people go nuts and join death cults and start doing crazy things, we will be taking a big step back whether we like it or not.

[Agammamon]

People are already joining death cults - what do you think all this 'pro-socialism' and 'inequality' stuff really is?

[Azathoth!!]

^^^this^^^ times eleventy

[Akira]

I think that in that scenario, humans would still find things to do. There would probably be a massive increase in viewing and participation in sports, movies, music, literature, art, and other forms of recreation that cannot be done entirely by robots.

There is also an appeal to having handmade "artisan" products, which would be even more alluring in an age where almost everything is machine-made. Artisan-level cuisine would probably be more popular as well.

In short: people would probably find plenty of challenge in recreational and artistic pursuits. Hell, if you explained our lifestyle today to someone from medieval times, they too would probably say, "but where's the challenge in that kind of life??"

[Rich]

Some have even called into question the nature of reality itself: "Bernie Sanders' 'political revolution' is political only inasmuch as thought is political," a self-described "metamodernist creative writer" named Seth Abramson wrote in the Huffington Post a few days ago.

Emphasis added. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!

[Longtorso, Johnny]

Turd Flinging Monkey: MGTOW: She'll Never Love You (Special Edition)

[Just a thought not a sermon]

Hey Johnny, here's that picture of you I snapped you were asking me about.

[Longtorso, Johnny]

That isn't your real dong; that's a photoshop.

[Slammer]

Saudi cleric says pictures with cats are a no-no

Sheikh Saleh bin Fawzan Al-Fazwan, a member of the Saudi Council of Senior Scholars, said that "taking pictures is prohibited if not for a necessity ? not with cats, not with dogs, not with wolves, not with anything," in response to a question about a "new trend of taking pictures with cats [which] has been spreading among people who want to be like the Westerners,"

Earlier this year, Saudi Arabia's top Muslim cleric issued a fatwa declaring chess forbidden in Islam.

Sheikh Abdul Aziz bin Abdullah declared in January that the game "brings enmity and hatred between its contestants" and is forbidden because it "encourages gambling and is a waste of time and finances."

I remember when Hitchens was promoting God is Not Great, and he'd start by saying, "What do you mean by the sub-title, Religion Poisons Everything...you mean even things like chess?"

Well, yes.

[straffinrun]

I named my tabby Yusef Islam.

[Rich]

Not "Saleh Al-FuzzyOne"?

[straffinrun]

That's my orphan's name.

[Lee G]

Fawzan Al-Fazwan

That sounds like a bad Key and Peele sketch.

[Injun, as in from India]

Earlier this year, Saudi Arabia's top Muslim cleric issued a fatwa declaring chess forbidden in Islam.

Sheikh Abdul Aziz bin Abdullah declared in January that the game "brings enmity and hatred between its contestants" and is forbidden because it "encourages gambling and is a waste of time and finances."

Of course, it was invented by the dirty infidels of India.

[Citizen X]

It was big in medieval (Islamic) Persia - the word "checkmate" is actually from the Persian "shah khmat," "the king is dead."

[Akira]

Right, because Muslim clerics never do anything that might foster enmity and hatred between people!

[Eternal Blue Sky]

'Sheikh Abdul Aziz bin Abdullah declared in January that the game "brings enmity and hatred between its contestants" and is forbidden because it "encourages gambling and is a waste of time and finances."'

Islamic clergymen are getting lazy as fuck. Wasting your time and finances is not denounced in the Quran, nor any Hadith I know of. Neither is playing games that foster enmity and hatred between contestants. The guy's trying to tie CHESS to gambling because that's the only way that he can think of to actually ban the thing on Islamic grounds.

It really does seem like these days the Saudi clergy are just stretching whatever logic they can to justify banning everything.

[Lord Humungus]

A swarm of 100,000 bats has made residents of this town 'prisoners in their own homes'

"The bats came and they are just out of control," Smith told Sky News. "We just can't do anything because of them."

Sky News reports that 100,000 (!) gray-headed flying foxes have gathered in Batemans Bay in New South Wales.

This is not a small concern, according to Sky News, which reports that "the problem is so bad they are on almost every surface and in every tree."

"We've had many residents complain, they feel they're prisoners in their own homes, they can't go out, they have to have air conditioning on the whole time, windows closed," New South Wales Environment Minister Mark Speakman told the Australian Broadcasting Company.

[UnCivilServant]

I was waiting for the line where the government will arrest them if they start killing the bats.

[DJF]

Most bats are very small, so I would recommend bird shot in the shot guns.

[UnCivilServant]

Flying foxes tend to be at the larger end of the bat spectrum

[Rhywun]

And it's Australia so they probably like the taste of human flesh, too.

[commodious spittoon]

And they're venomous, obvs.

[Citizen X]

Flying foxes have wingspans of up to 5 feet. They're huge, but they're kind of cute, for bats. Plus their diet consists almost entirely of fruit, which is good news for Ozzies who are tired of predatory animals attacking them but bad news for their light-colored cars.

[notJoe]

Ozzies. Bats. Hee hee.

I see what you didn't know you did there.

[straffinrun]

Had bats all over the house when I was kid. Cops told us we weren't allowed to kill them. Our outlaw mutt would snap them out the air at night and maul them. Great dog.

[Restoras]

We occasionally had a bat in our house as well. My mom would catch them with a butterfly net and then stomp on them.

[straffinrun]

They just don't make angels like that anymore.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

When I graduated from HS and was getting ready for the Army, I spent a few days visiting my grandparents.

A bat got into the basement and my Grandpa was just freaked about it.

This was the 250 lb, 6'3" man who I'd witnessed getting kicked by a milk cow and punching it in the head so that it went to its knees.

He stood at the top of the stairs with a broom in his hand, yelling down instructions to me trapping and killing it.

Side note: fucking bats are hard as hell to catch. I managed to chase him out through the crack he came in and stuff it with steel wool.

[Akira]

My stepdad lived in a house that was very old and was basically a jumbled mess of add-ons. As a result, bats would get in through the various nooks and crannies. He had a method for getting them out: turn all the lights on except the room where the bat is. The bat is now "trapped" in that room since they avoid the light. Turn off the lights in the next room, then turn on the lights in the first room; the bat will fly into the now-darkened room. Repeat this until you have driven the bat out the front door. He said this worked really well.

[Rich]

"Sky News", eh?

Anyway, bat guano do what bat guano do.

[Restoras]

I vote for banishment in the General Zod and his conspirators mirror-thingy.

[Swiss Servator]

Aye!

[Just a thought not a sermon]

But at least the mosquito problem the town used to have is gone....

[Agent Cooper]

Paging Alfred Hitchock, Jr. !

[Bee Tagger]

I believe that if we win here in California, and if we win the other five states that are voting on June 7, we're going to go marching to the Democratic convention with a hell of a lot of momentum.

I'll say this: I can't fault the reasoning once you grant the premise.

[Pat (PM)]

For first time in 130 years more US young adults live with their parents instead of partners

There's a millennial revolution going on in America and it involves mum and dad and the family home. For the first time in 130 years, more young adults between the ages of 18 to 34 are living with their parents instead of with a romantic partner, according to a surprising new study.

The Pew Research Center found that 32.1% of people in that age group live in their parents' house, and slightly less 31.6% live with a spouse or romantic partner in their own homes, according to an analysis of 2014 census data.

The rest live alone, as single parents, or with another family member, an unrelated roommate, or in group-living situations such as a college dorm or prison.

The numbers don't represent a record percentage of young adults living at home with parents. In 1940, 35% of the age group lived at home ? but an even higher percentage lived with a spouse or romantic partner. The results represent a "dramatic drop" in the share of young Americans who are choosing to settle down romantically before the age of 35, the center notes.

[The Last American Hero]

If only I was born a bit earlier. I mean, when I was a young single guy, it took more than "have a full time job, your own apartment, and your own car" to get laid. I would imagine that in today's world, I could walk into a bar, wave my keychain around, announce I've got my own place, and I'd be drowning in chicks.

[John]

I think this is more the result of culture than the bad economy. I think what is happening is kids are spoiled and value living in the comfort of their parents home more than they value their freedom. Unless you are born rich, you never start out living in a particularly nice place. But back in your day and mine, you would rather sleep on a futon and eat raman noodles every night than hang out at your parents big nice house because finally being able to make your own rules was just that great. I don't think as many kids today understand that. So they turn down the crappy apartment that you share with the weird roommate to stay in the nice house mommy and daddy have.

[Eternal Blue Sky]

Wasting money on an apartment is stupid. If you can stay at home, do chores or whatever, and save up for a mortgage you can get yourself a house faster. Renting is just plain stupid and a waste of money you could be putting towards a house unless you have to.

Even staying in your parents house and paying for your share of the amenities and food is cheaper then the money you'd be wasting on an apartment. Apartments are overpriced, and the government killed off the culture of lodging and boarding houses decades ago, that provided cheaper alternatives to housing other then apartment renting.

[Eternal Blue Sky]

Also, you really should read the following:

"The numbers don't represent a record percentage of young adults living at home with parents. In 1940, 35% of the age group lived at home ? but an even higher percentage lived with a spouse or romantic partner. The results represent a 'dramatic drop' in the share of young Americans who are choosing to settle down romantically before the age of 35, the center notes."

So more people are staying at home with parents than those who are slutting around and marrying young and stupid. And overall the people staying at home with parents is still down overall. Good!! Rushing into married life is stupid.

[John]

Maybe it is because they are smarter than my generation was. Whatever the reason, I think we both agree that it is not because they are all lazy or have no economic prospects.

[You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)]

I was going to object that it depends where you live, it's less likely to work in a big city... but now I'm thinking you tweak it to "I've got my own place, without roommates," and it could work.

I have some testing to do this weekend.

[Lord Humungus]

Warning sheep high on cannabis could cause havoc in Swansea Valley village

He said: "There is already a flock of sheep roaming the village causing a nuisance. They are getting in people's gardens and one even entered a bungalow and left a mess in the bedroom.

"I dread to think what will happen if they eat what could well be cannabis plants ? we could have an outbreak out of psychotic sheep rampaging through the village."

Mr Richard said that there had already been instance of sheep being killed in the village after straying into the road.

He said: "I told the council officers to make sure it was reported to the police before removing any evidence of what looks like the dumped remains of a cannabis growing establishment."

[Just a thought not a sermon]

"one even entered a bungalow and left a mess in the bedroom."

Empty bags of chips, half eaten bowls of cheese dip, roaches left everywhere...

[Agent Cooper]

if they eat what could well be cannabis plants

Speculation! Rampant Speculation!1111!!!!11!

[UnCivilServant]

THC-infused Mutton!

[Rich]

Oberlin students want to abolish midterms and any grades below C

And any chance of employment other than as an "activist".

[DJF]

community organizer?

[MetalBard]

I wish. There is still a lot of employers who see value in simply a degree, even if it's a degree in absolute bullshit. These idiots are going to do a lot of damage before people wake up and realize the education these people are getting isn't worth a steaming pile of shit.

[Restoras]

+1 Cleveland Steamer

[Elspeth Flashman]

would you stop bringing this up? You'll summon a "story" by one of the commentariat.

[Libertarian]

There was quite a mix of backgrounds where I used to work. It was the people who weren't able to go to college that seemed the most impressed by a degree. People like me, who did go to college, knew the truth, i.e. almost any idiot can get a degree.

[Bra Ket]

It still has value as a hazing/screening process. See how even the SJW's "studying" bullshit need to prioritize school above their silly protest campaigns or they flunk out.

[commodious spittoon]

This. I think there is value in demonstrating one's emotional and social competence by enduring years of compulsory association and sticktoitiveness, even if the degree in the end is horseshit. Granted, these lunatics are diluting that distinction with their theatrics, but like you said, they seem to be weeding themselves out.

[Agammamon]

Then we should give out degrees for serving a term in the military, or going to boarding school, or working in the Peace Corps.

[commodious spittoon]

But vendor financing makes college attractive and accessible in a way those options aren't. A turn in the military or peace corps probably *does* stand out for most employers, especially as saturated as the labor market is with inexperienced college grads, but it's just not a competitive option for most people. Get the feds out of the loan guarantee business and I bet more kids would choose enlisting, volunteering, interning, and apprenticing over a lib arts degree. And we'd be much better for it as demonstrated by the loonies at Oberlin and elsewhere.

[Agammamon]

A turn in the military or the Peace Corps doesn't impress anyone that's looking for a degree as a critical qualification.

It may help distinguish you from other degree holders, but do 20 years, make SNCO rank, and apply for a job that is asking for a 2 or more year degree (without caring what its in) and your resume will get tossed without a second look.

[Bra Ket]

Sounds like you are making the typical complaint against profiling, that they may be inaccurate for individual cases. Of course such screening methods could always be improved by using more info, but as it stands they likely still work to improve the company's bottom line versus a policy that ignored whatever profiled info they use. such as degrees earned in this case. Or else they wouldn't use it.

[Juvenile Bluster]

You missed the Soave article yesterday and the several hundred comments making fun of the students?

[Rich]

Apparently.

*** hangs head in shame ***

[Crusty Juggler]

Your punishment: read two Longtorso links start to finish. Yeah, it's harsh, but you deserve it.

[Juvenile Bluster]

Whoa whoa whoa. Lets not be too cruel here. I mean, I know we're not the government, but I happen to think the 8th Amendment is a very good standard to live by.

[Crusty Juggler]

It hurts me more than it hurts you!

[commodious spittoon]

The infamous Crusty pickup line.

[Rufus The Monocled Derp Slayer]

So 'A' would become the new 'C', right? So what's above 'A'?

Do these people fucking think. Like ever?

[commodious spittoon]

Donnie Richter: We don't have grades here. A student either learns and gets an "L", or they fluctuate.

George Michael: What do we get for that?

Donnie Richter: An "F".

[Elspeth Flashman]

It's like that Futurama episode: I give you the worst grade ever: an A minus minus minus!

[Animal]

Probably qualified for Congress.

Hell, probably overqualified for Congress.

[Slammer]

Sweet Misery: Hangover Ice Cream Now Exists

South Koreans, Asia's biggest lushes, already soothe their sore heads with some $126 million in annual hangover "cure" sales that run the full gamut of pills, beverages, foods, and even cosmetics to help soften skin. That doesn't even count the "hangover soup" that has become a regular on many restaurant menus, while the most popular hangover beverage, Hut-gae Condition, is now sold in China, Japan, and Vietnam, reports Reuters. Now South Koreans can add to their arsenal a hangover ice cream called the Gyeondyo-bar, which literally translates to "hang in there," a name its maker says "expresses the hardships of employees who have to suffer a working day after heavy drinking, as well as to provide comfort to those who have to come to work early after frequent nights of drinking."

[Mustang]

I remember when my Korean counterparts gave me a box full of bottles of some sort of elixir while I was there. They claimed it was like a Five Hour Energy, but with more of everything and it was for hangovers.

Never. Again.

[Steve G]

Baccus? (sp)

[Mustang]

That may have been it.

[commodious spittoon]

Everyone knows a stiff, spicy bloody mary is the only hangover cure worth a damn.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

A tomato beer (or 'red beer' in some locals) with a raw egg.

The manliest of cures.

[commodious spittoon]

I do like clamato beer.

[Zeb]

It's amazing how Koreans and Japanese people drink. I was on an ANA flight to Tokyo a few years ago and it was as if they were trying to get the passengers as drunk as possible.

[Crusty Juggler]

Koreans are the Irish of Asia.

[AlmightyJB]

Do they sniff each others butts?

http://hotair.com/archives/201.....e-as-dogs/

[Rhywun]

Just as some adults find relaxation in the simple childhood pleasure of coloring in a coloring book, others find it in drooling on themselves and eating food off the floor.

W
T
F

[straffinrun]

Ridiculous. Just become a male feminist.

[Rufus The Monocled Derp Slayer]

That's the sentence of the year so far.

[Lee G]

"Some pups are solo, of course, but for me the puppy identity is focused on the bond between me and Sidney, my handler. I've been collared to him for 10 years. If anyone comes near him I growl like a little bull terrier.

That's about when I would dropkick him in the balls.

[Citizen X]

What if he's fixed?

[CatoTheChipper]

How long before public accommodation laws are interpreted to allow these lunatics to defecate wherever they want? While still forcing kosher bakers to allow them in their bakeries?

[Zeb]

That's just a Monty Python sketch with dogs instead of mice.

[Lord Humungus]

Motorist throws golf balls in romantic rejection road rage attack

A woman who rejected a fellow motorist's flirtatious advances recorded the man hurling golf balls at her car while traveling more than 60 mph.

The 25-year-old woman, who asked not to be named, turned her dashboard camera to the side Saturday while driving on the M1 in Nerang, Queensland.

The video shows a male driver in a blue car throwing golf balls at the woman's car as she films.

"Are you actually kidding me?" the woman can be heard yelling.

"This is what happens when you don't let men flirt with you," the woman says in a voiceover recorded after the incident. "They're golf balls."

[Libertarian]

Jesus Christ. In Australia, even men wearing plaid knickers are dangerous.

[Crusty Juggler]

A new report from the Government Accountability Office found that the Pentagon is still using eight-inch floppy disks of the variety generally phased out in the '70s for programs coordinating intercontinental ballistic missiles and nuclear bombers.

Joshua is still a threat? I hope the pre-equine fetish version of Matthew Broderick, and the teenage, legwarmer-wearing version of Ally Sheedy are on stand by.

[Renegade Jew]

She was cute but had remarkably flaccid and floppy breasts.

[Michael]

Go on...

[Longtorso, Johnny]

News: Libertarian Gynocentrism, Turd Flinging Monkey

[Longtorso, Johnny]

He responds to a Shikha article on Reason.com. You can't miss that.

[Lord Humungus]

At Swinging Wall Street Parties, the Feds Are Now on the Prowl

Like a skunk at a garden party, the SEC has been moving in on the fun-loving Wall Street conference circuit in hopes of getting a better handle on who's up to no good in the world of finance. Officials scour attendee lists to spot the biggest players in advance and, properly wearing name tags, schmooze over drinks. Of course, they don't accept any -- that's a no-no under SEC policy.

The SEC isn't the only regulator trawling conferences for tips of suspicious conduct. The Commodity Futures Trading Commission was especially transparent about its intentions when it set up a booth in the middle of an industry gathering in March. Attendees at the opulent Boca Raton Resort & Club in Florida were greeted by smiling agency officials handing out metal whistles emblazoned with "CFTC" and mouse pads advertising their toll-free number.

The efforts show how regulators are trying to step up their game after missing Bernard Madoff's Ponzi scheme and facing criticisms that they didn't spot Wall Street abuses that led to the 2008 financial crisis.

[Rhywun]

schmooze over drinks. Of course, they don't accept any

So... as always the narcs stick out like a sore thumb.

[Feminist Killjoy]

Wait, do they mean Frank Sinatra swinging or...?

[UnCivilServant]

It's amazing how tasks that seem simple turn out to be more annoying than they look.

I'm almost finish taping the room I'm planning to repaint, and it's been quite an illuminating and annoying venture. Keeping the edge of a finicky strip of adhesive perfectly in line with the edge of the architecture is annoying enough when I'm not trying to get into hard to reach little corners.

[Rich]

Shoulda used wallpaper.

*** ducks ***

[UnCivilServant]

Shoulda thought about the quip better - wallpaper would be all the problems with tape multiplied by the larger surface area.

[Rich]

Oh, that was my point.

If you want to test your marriage, hang wallpaper with your spouse.

[Groovus Maximus]

If you want to test your marriage, hang wallpaper with your spouse.

*taking notes*

[DOOMco]

Nooooooo oo

[Hamster of Doom]

Dude, crack a beer. OCD UCS is too much acronym for this place.

Check out fabric wall covering. I've seen some nice looks with muslin, very low cost and low commitment. Just in case you haven't already purchased paint for the whole house, you know. Also, brown paper flooring. I've seen it in person, and it looks quite amazing.

[UnCivilServant]

I bought paint for the project I'm doing. I'm really just trying to rid myself of a very pink wall.

[commodious spittoon]

Interior design really brings out the inner tyrant.

[John]

Painters make a lot of money and for very good reason. It takes an enormous amount of work and attention to detail to paint a room properly. It is expensive to hire someone to do it for every good reason. But if you can afford it, and I never have been able to, it has to be one of the best checks you will ever write.

[Juvenile Bluster]

A few months after we moved into the house we're living in now, while my wife was pregnant, we painted the room that would eventually become our daughter's room. When it came time for painting a couple of other rooms... we paid a professional. Because fuck that noise.

[UnCivilServant]

Given the splotches on the ceilings near the tops of the walls, the person who last did the paint work in the house was an ameteur who didn't bother to tape, or paint the margins with a brush.

[Certified Public Asshat]

I like painting. My wife and kids leave me alone for a few hours, I drink beer and listen to music.

[Citizen X]

Yeah, painting is no big whoop. I don't even use tape unless i'm painting a window frame.

[Renegade Jew]

Can I bribe you to come to Illinois and do my house? There's a reward of alcohol and a little Jewgold.

[commodious spittoon]

Is jewgold like the Braavosi coin from Game of Thrones? I have to present it to a rabbi and say the Yiddish equivalent of valar morghulis and then I'm inducted into a super-secret assassins guild?

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

'Inducted into' or 'assassinated by'?

[John]

When we bought our house my wife and I painted the living room and a couple of bedrooms and halls. It was so much work. And that was painting it without any furniture to move and not having to worry about the carpet since it was shot and was going to come up after we were done painting anyway. To do that job now with a floor that needed covered and furniture to move would be brutal. No way no how.

[Lee G]

How old are you? Because if you're approaching your forties, it ain't gonna matter much longer.

Just get a good cut-in brush and get it over with.

[Certified Public Asshat]

This brush

[Juice]

There's a type of flat "brush" that is really a flat piece of plastic with bristles that are very short, sort of like the tips of paint brush bristles spread out over a large area. They apply paint over large, flat areas so quickly, thoroughly, and easily I'm surprised that I can't find them anywhere. I painted the interior of an old house with some of those. Another guy and I painted the whole thing in one day. And I can't for the life of me remember what they're called and I can't find any online.

[Juice]

Well, I'll be damned. I found it. They're called paint pads (I don't know if that's their universal name).

http://www.amazon.com/Padco-27.....B005MI3RFU

[But Enough About Me]

Yep. Commonly available at places like Home Depot. Here in Canada, you can also find 'em at RONA stores, and probably Home Hardware as well.

They're okay, but I never found them to be all that "clean" along edges and corners. Mebbe I just wasn't using 'em correctly.

Anyways, I like painting (and I can do a better job than most pros, saving myself a metric shit-ton of money in the process). I hate the prepwork, though.

[Zeb]

You'll never get as good a line with tape on a porous surface as you would carefully brushing.

[UnCivilServant]

The wall was already painted. It's not a porous surface.

[Zeb]

Still most likely textured enough that you get some bleed through under the tape. Unless you have really good tape.
I'm sure it will be an improvement in any case.

[But Enough About Me]

If you're having problems getting an absolutely clean tape line, pre-coat the edge with cheap nail polish, or (if you happen to have some) the colour of the paint that's on the other side of the edge you're painting. Let dry, then paint the edge plus everything else, and remove the tape. Voila!

Or, you could do what graphics artists used to do with things like Letraset ? use a burnisher (or a fingernail) to apply hard pressure to the edge of the tape, forcing the adhesive into the surface.

[Lord Humungus]

It Takes a Parent, Not a Policy

Finally, new research by MIT economist Jonathan Gruber (and colleagues) indicates that one big experiment in expanding child care at the societal level ? Quebec's introduction of universal child care ? did not turn out well. Their study found that "cohorts with increased child care access subsequently had worse health, lower life satisfaction, and higher crime rates later in life," with "impacts on criminal activity . . . concentrated in boys." In contending that Clinton's policy agenda on this front will "make a huge difference to [children's] lives," Krugman seems to do nothing but betray his ignorance or indifference to the state of the science on child care.

Second, let's look at public sentiment.

Most Americans, and most American parents, do not seem to think that a dramatic expansion in publicly funded child care is the best option for today's children and families. Most Americans, and most parents, would prefer to have a parent at home. A recent Pew survey found that 60 percent of Americans thought "children are better off when a parent stays home to focus on the family," a view that was also shared by a majority of mothers (56 percent) and fathers (69 percent) with children at home.

[Longtorso, Johnny]

Odd, Gruber was willing to take one for the team and lie about Obamacare.

[Jordan]

Wow, that fuckstick Gruber did something useful?

[This Machine]

Broken clocks, blind squirrels, etc.

[Haven "Irish" Monahan]

""Their study found that "cohorts with increased child care access subsequently had worse health, lower life satisfaction, and higher crime rates later in life," with "impacts on criminal activity . . . concentrated in boys." In contending that Clinton's policy agenda on this front will "make a huge difference to [children's] lives," Krugman seems to do nothing but betray his ignorance or indifference to the state of the science on child care.""

Given that divorce and single motherhood have major negative impacts on children, it's almost like the primary cause of success is having a stable family with parents who look after you. Leftists don't like that conclusion because it implies power rests with the family and not the state.

[John]

government funded child care and pre K education has been shown time and again to be absolutely worthless. They have been studying those programs since the 1960s and no one has ever found them to have any positive impact on children or be much of anything beyond a jobs program for Democratic voters.

[Jerryskids]

Given that divorce and single motherhood have major negative impacts on children

Especially the 30-year old children who think they're entitled to taxpayer support for themselves, their children and their exes while they take a couple of decades off to go find themselves. Hint: try looking under the stack of dirty dishes in the sink or the pile of dirty clothes in the bathroom or the month's-worth of unpaid bills on the hall table. I'm sure you're in there somewhere.

[Jordan]

"The Sanders movement has become impervious to reality," suggests The Atlantic's Molly Ball.

Become? Being impervious to reality is a prerequisite for joining the Free Shit Brigade.

[Bee Tagger]

On Twitter, a study says half of all sexist abuse comes from women

Yet they only receive 79 account blocks for every 100 men receive.

[Jordan]

Cuyahoga County, Ohio, has become the first in Ohio and the nation to offer full-time female and male employees six months of paid parental leave.

Well, it's not like they have to worry about silly things like revenue or customer service. Just whip the tax slaves a little harder.

[Agent Cooper]

Glad I don't reside there.

[Lord Humungus]

This lumbersexual stock photo model is man enough for Hillary. Are you?
Twitter Link

[Hamster of Doom]

The rape eyes seal the deal. The neck beard is just gilding the lily.

[Certified Public Asshat]

Hahahahaha:

@instapundit The campaign may not want to embrace this strategy too closely... pic.twitter.com/kWVLhaPuEB

? Christopher McCue (@Nimki2000) May 26, 2016

[Glide]

Holy shit, that's fantastic.

[CatoTheChipper]

What does "man enough to vote for Hillary" even mean?

What was pajama-boy thinking when he came up that for a potential meme?

[Rich]

A woman wearing a "Stop Domestic Violence" t-shirt was arrested on domestic violence charges after firing a gun during an argument with her husband

The System works!

[Agent Cooper]

Well, had she hit her target there would've been a stop to it, correct?

[Lord Humungus]

Yes, Hillary Was an Enabler

Hillary Clinton's self-image as a feminist champion has always been at odds with her political partnership with a serial womanizer whose electoral career has depended on discrediting and smearing the women with whom he's had dalliances. The disconnect is a little as if Jane Sanders were married to Lloyd Blankfein.

Hillary tends to get a pass, because the 1990s were a long time ago, the media often scold anyone who brings up the scandals, and most politicians think it's bad form to talk about someone else's marriage. Unconstrained by all these boundaries, Trump is hitting her with his characteristic abandon.

Hillary's defenders say this is tantamount to blaming her for Bill's infidelities. Of course, she's not responsible for his wanderings. But as a fully vested member of Bill's political operation, Hillary had as much interest in forcefully rebutting all allegations of sexual misconduct as he did.

[Domestic Dissident]

Not "was", is.

[Jerryskids]

And Trump repeatedly gave her money.

[WTF]

Businessmen always pay protection money to the government mafia.

[Jordan]

When Bernie Sanders' wife was in charge of small, private Burlington College in Vermont, it sank into debt.

When Jane Sanders was in charge of a small private college in Vermont for seven years, it sank deep into debt while trying to expand its campus. Many students took out tens of thousands of dollars in loans to attend, but their investment was questionable: Only a third of former Burlington College students earn more than the average person with a high school diploma.

The average Burlington student pays $25,569 per year in tuition after scholarships and student aid, according to the federal Education Department. That's significantly higher than the average for other students at private, nonprofit colleges of $15,000, calculated by the College Board for the 2015 academic year. The college accepts more than four out of five applicants, according to U.S. News and World Report. However, 76 percent of Burlington students failed to graduate in six years or less. But 73 percent are paying down their student loans, a rate that is higher than the national average and an indicator that many students are not in financial trouble, despite low earnings after college.

Burlington College and its students are feeling the Bern, big time.

[Rufus The Monocled Derp Slayer]

Dude. I linked to this , like, in 1999.

/wink.

[waffles]

It must really suck to be less than ten years out from school and still be paying student loans from a school that shuttered due to not being able to pay it's loans.

[John]

http://www.theamericanmirror.c.....more-13830

Someone named Brad Thor goes on Glenn Beck and sets a new bar for Trump pants shitting. I don't recall any of these conservatives who are panicked over Trump being half this panicked or as pointedly critical of Obama. Sure, they don't like Obama but I don't recall any of them saying his presidency was the end of the Republic. Really only a few Libertarians and the real paleo right like Horowitz and Dinesh D'Souza ever really telling the full truth about Obama. The rest of them were plenty critical but never really engaged in full truth telling. It is almost like they are trying to compensate for that failure by pretending that Trump is some kind of monster that they have a moral duty to stop.

[tarran]

It's not that they're compensating for anything.

They are defending their in-group against an interloper who hasn't paid his dues to be in their group.

Obama, being Ivy League educated and having held various jobs in the political/pundit complex is in-group, even if he is part of a political faction that they oppose. Trump could agree with everything they hold dear and they'd still hate his guts.

[John]

It really is that. Think about the reaction to Trump saying he would order the military to water board terrorists. Of course the left media went nuts. That is what they do. But the rightwing media in places like NR and the Wall Street Journal and Weekly Standard, all went into "this man is unfit" full on fainting couch mode.

Think about that. George Bush did exactly what Trump says he would do. And those guys went to mattresses defending ti and called anyone who had a problem with it a secret terrorist sympathizer. It was one of the great WTF moments I have ever seen in politics.

[Haven "Irish" Monahan]

"Sure, they don't like Obama but I don't recall any of them saying his presidency was the end of the Republic"

You don't recall *Glenn Beck* saying that Obama was the end of the Republic? He's called him a mentally ill, delusional Marxist

[John]

I was speaking about Thor. Yeah, Beck went insane sometime during the last decade. I honestly don't know what he said about Obama but I am sure it was plenty crazy whatever it was.

[Drake]

Thor writes books about stopping terrorists that I don't read - I have heard him on other shows.

[Juice]

I don't recall any of them saying his presidency was the end of the Republic.

really? I distinctly remember lots of wingnut types saying exactly that in 2008.

[SugarFree]

John only recalls what it is expedient for John to recall.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

This^^

And John seems to have contracted a full blown case of Trump Derangement Syndrome.

[John]

Juice,

Read my post again. I said there were people who said that. But Thor and Goldberg and the people who are panicked about Trump were not among them.

Is it too much to ask that you guys respond to what I actually say and not what you wish I would say?

[JeremyR]

Maybe because they think Trump is worse?

Whatever you say about Obama, he's not a fascist dictator like Trump wants to be...

[Lord Humungus]

Trump: Romney walks like a penguin

- At a rally in Anaheim, Calif., on May 25, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump said he has "a sore that's worth more money than" Mitt Romney. He also said the 2012 Republican candidate was "stupid," a "choker," and that he walks like a penguin.

[Restoras]

It might be worth voting for him for his candor alone.

[John]

No kidding. Romney is such a loser. His dad was governor of Michigan and CEO of American Motors. Yet everyone is supposed to be impressed that he ended up heading a venture capital firm. I mean its just so hard for idiot sons of governors and CEOs to raise money for their venture capital firms. And then of course he was so worried about being seen as a "good man", he refused to even try to beat Obama. That concern didn't of course stop him from slandering Trump with the old "I know all these bad things but cant' tell you what they are but trust me they are there" slander this spring. What a crap weasel.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

Lifted this comment from another site:

I have often said that if my pet iguana had inherited 300 million dollars worth of New York and New Jersey commercial real-estate... then my pet iguana would be a billionaire today simply from the income and increase in value of those assets. It would remain to be seen whether people would fawn over my iguana and call him a business genius.

[You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)]

But it also means dealing with his constant self-validation and whining.

[Jerryskids]

There's some hard-hitting issues campaigning.

[Haven "Irish" Monahan]

""The Sanders movement has become impervious to reality," suggests The Atlantic's Molly Ball. "

Supporters of a socialist are detached from reality?

This doesn't seem possible

[Enjoy Every Sandwich]

Sexism against women on Twitter is equally perpetuated by men and women, according to a new report from the think tank Demos.

Nobody who has spoken to a woman for more than five minutes would be surprised by that result.

[Lord Humungus]

Nigeria facing 'tomato Armageddon' over crop infestation

"We are facing tomato Armageddon," she told AFP in the Ikoyi district of the city. "I have never seen this situation before in my 36 years in existence."

Tomato prices in Nigeria have been steadily climbing for months, caused by unrest in northern and central states where the crop is grown and this has affected farmers' ability to plant and harvest.

Fuel price increases and a fall in imports due to a foreign exchange shortage have contributed to the scarcity and now a major crop infestation has worsened the already bleak tomato outlook.

The Tuta absoluta moth, dubbed "tomato Ebola" by local farmers, has destroyed more than 80 percent of tomato farms in the northern state of Kaduna, its agriculture commissioner Manzo Daniel said Tuesday.

something something Nigerian Prince bank account

[UnCivilServant]

"Tomato Armageddon" implies something out of "Attack of the Killer Tomatos" not "Supply chain issues"

[Crusty Juggler]

The Life of One of the 20th Century's Most Influential Nude Models

. Munson is unrivaled in these portrayals, appearing in countless early 20th-century statues, from the seated figures that once guarded the Manhattan Bridge and are now installed outside the Brooklyn Museum, to the gilded lady on the top of the Manhattan Municipal Building, to a duo of marble sculptures by Daniel Chester French in the atrium of the Metropolitan Museum of Art

TW: Statue nudity

[Citizen X]

So, you would?

[John]

When she was young? Every day and three or four times on Sunday. She has quite the body going on.

[Citizen X]

I meant the statues. There's a reason Crusty is banned from most of Europe, you know.

[Haven "Irish" Monahan]

"On Twitter, a study says half of all sexist abuse comes from women"

The way they measure 'sexist abuse' is uses of the word 'slut' and 'whore.' That's ridiculous. Who under the age of 30 hasn't called a female friend a slut jokingly? It's like calling a male friend a dick.

I know women who call each other sluts all the time, and trust me, it's not misogynistic abuse

[Haven "Irish" Monahan]

And what if I'm talking about actual prostitutes? Fucking dumb.

[Crusty Juggler]

I know women who call each other sluts all the time, and trust me, it's not misogynistic abuse

The inner workings of the Klan are fascinating.

[Haven "Irish" Monahan]

'Sup slut!

OMG SO MUCH SEXIST ABUSE

[This Machine]

Irish you ignorant slut.

[commodious spittoon]

You bitches are basic af

[waffles]

basic af

Good thing the F-35 is on the way.

[Elspeth Flashman]

My female friends that I used to hang with said "slores" was the more appropriate term. I wish I still could hang with them, but they moved. Sniff. Now the ladies I hang with are too refined for that.

[Agent Cooper]

Do they employ the term "Jezarlot?"

[You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)]

Hello whore.

[Crusty Juggler]

Historians and Hamilton: Founders Chic and the Cult of Personality

Hamilton portrays all of Hamilton's failings as failings of personality or of character. While he is recognized as a divisive figure?after all, what else would provide the dramatic tension??the substantive grounds of disagreement get subsumed by personality clashes. When Hamilton's opponents celebrate the fact "he will never be President now!" it is because of his sexual impropriety, and not the deep national unpopularity of his elitist and crony capitalist economic scheming. Hamilton's contributions to The Federalist are praised not for their quality, but only for their quantity. And in crafting a "scrappy immigrant" story, Miranda makes Hamilton's rough edges those of a pushy up-and-comer, rather than the product of a man who was deeply anti-democratic, and owed most of his political power and prestige to patronage and nepotism rather than the approbation of the public.

[Lee G]

Nailed it.

[Crusty Juggler]

As a result, the difficulties Hamilton faces in the musical's narrative cast revolutionary and early Republic politics in a totally erroneous light. Hamilton was a lightning rod for criticism because he espoused a vision of national development that was in thrall to entrenched special interests. Some of his opponents were defenders of equally entrenched special interests, for sure, but many saw the way that Hamilton repeatedly ran into the protective arms of the merchant elite and the military, and feared what he was up to. When, in attempting to defend the Jay Treaty at a town meeting in New York, he did try and engage with the rough-and-tumble popular politics of the time, he had to leave the stage pursued by a rainstorm of bottles and rocks. In almost all of his other political engagements, he stayed as far away from the ballot box as he could.

[John]

It just shows how ignorant of American history the public has become. The story of the early Republic was Hamilton and those who wanted a strong central government and industry versus Jefferson and those who wanted more or less an agricultural republic with a weak central government. In many ways you can trace every political dispute from the civil war up to today back to that split in vision.

[Restoras]

In many ways you can trace every political dispute from the civil war up to today back to that split in vision.

John, did you ever read The Cousin's Wars?

...close examination of three internecine English-speaking civil wars?the English Civil War, the American Revolution, and the American Civil War. These wars between cousins functioned as crucial anvils on which various religious, ethnic, and political alliances were hammered out between the English-speaking cousin-nations, setting them on a unique two-track path toward world leadership?one aristocratic and aloof to dominate the imperial nineteenth century and the other more egalitarian and democratic to take over in the twentieth century.

It's been a long time since I read it but I remember enjoying it immensely.

[John]

I have not. It is one of those books that has always been on my "I need to read that" list but never quite made it to the top. I need to read it sometime.

[You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)]

Pretty much. The show is great, but it's obviously a white-wash. Which should be obvious going into it. And Jefferson is so much fun in the second act, they have to remind you that he's a slaveholder so you stay on Hamilton's side through the adultery. I think Miranda did a great job twisting things to find a good story, but it is important that people remember it is fiction, not accurate history.

That said, the best number is probably "the room where it happens," which is pretty blatant about how political elites strike deals behind closed doors and according to their own interests. I don't know if Miranda means for it to make Hamilton look bad, or if it's just meant as Burr's twisted view of the political process, but it's the only time in the show where the grumpy libertarian part of my brain wasn't annoyed.

[Lord Humungus]

There's a joke somewhere...

GOP House Codifies Obama's Transgenderism in Dark of Night

Late Wednesday night, Republicans allowed a vote on an amendment from Rep. Sean Maloney, D-N.Y., which codified Obama's executive order 13672 making transgenderism the law of the land. Obama's executive order, promulgated in July 2014, instructed bureaucrats to sever contracts with companies that don't follow the Obama-mandated sexual identity agenda. This could include companies that don't allow men into women's bathrooms in their private corporate offices. The Maloney amendment to the $37.4 billion FY 2017 Energy & Water Appropriations Bill (H.R. 5055) codified that unilateral act into law.

The amendment passed 223-195 with 43 Republicans supporting it. The GOP House just supported arguably the most radical Democrat agenda item in the dead of night.

[Lee G]

Paul Ryan, GOP Saviour

about that.....

[straffinrun]

The Energy and Water Appropriations Bill doesn't seem to understand plumbing.

[Jerryskids]

They had to pass the amendment to see what was in it. But really, aren't we all Democrats now? I thought we were going to stop pretending there was any such thing as "conservative principles" - but we're still going to bitch about people being hypocrits and betraying principles? Look, the amendment passed - isn't that "winning" and isn't that all that matters?

[Free Society]

Facebook apologizes for banning an ad with a size 22 model for being an "undesirable" depiction

Facebook has found itself in a bit of a situation. The company has apologized after banning an ad from a Melbourne-based feminist talkshow, Cherchez la Femme, claiming it violated a policy blocking ads that make people feel badly about their bodies. The ad features Tess Holliday, a well-known model who is a size 22, promoting an upcoming show about body positivity and "fat acceptance."
Cherchez la Femme was trying to boost its event page for the show, which includes a banner image showing Holliday in a bikini. The group claims Facebook wouldn't allow the ad, saying it "depicts a body or body parts in an undesirable manner."

It posted an image it says is the letter it received from Facebook, addressed to the group's co-producer, Jessamy Gleeson, stating ads "may not depict a state of health or body weight as being perfect or extremely undesirable." It followed with a list of imagery that was not acceptable, including "Close-ups of 'muffin tops' where the overhanging fat is visible" and "People pinching their fat/cellulite."

[Haven "Irish" Monahan]

Wait, Facebook has a policy that you aren't allowed to portray *eating disorders* in a negative light because it's a 'human medical condition?' What the fuck?

[Rhywun]

I'm confused. Why is it anybody's business what ads Facebook chooses to display?

[Drake]

The Austrian election is looking really fishy. Looks they pulled a Washington state - 147% voter turnout in some places and a massive majority of absentee ballots for the leftists.

http://www.americanthinker.com.....ction.html

[Restoras]

Great. I'm going to be there in September.

[John]

If you have never been there, Austrian women are spectacular. Everyone talks about how beautiful the women in Prague are, and they certainly are. For my money, however, I think they are even more beautiful in Vienna. They have this endless supply of beautiful blonds with all kinds of athletic curves. Austrian women look like what you would imagine German women look like. I love Vienna for that reason.

[Restoras]

I was in Kitzbuhel this past winter and yes, the I agree with your assessment. Though, I did meet a group of Finnish women while there and that, um, sparked my interest in going to Helsinki.

For this trip I am going for 12 days, Vienna, Salzburg, Kitzbuhel and Innsbruck. Can't wait.

[Jerryskids]

Coming from a long line* of German women, I don't have to imagine what German women look like.

*Not really a "long" line, just a standard line. Two tackles, two guards and a center. But bigger and with thicker mustaches.

[Juice]

Austrian women look like what you would imagine German women look like.

German women can be...different.

[You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)]

Enjoy. Vienna is fantastic, and I can't wait to go back there.

[Citizen X]

You know what other Austrian got elected?

[PBR Streetgang]

Ahnold?

[neoteny]

Kurt Waldheim?

[commodious spittoon]

The Sanders movement has become impervious to reality. Some have even called into question the nature of reality itself: "Bernie Sanders' 'political revolution' is political only inasmuch as thought is political," a self-described "metamodernist creative writer" named Seth Abramson wrote in the Huffington Post a few days ago. "By the very nature of things?we might call it perceptual entropy?the impossible, once perceived, enters a chain of causation whose natural conclusion is realization." By this logic, Abramson reasons, Sanders is actually winning. It's, like, the Matrix, man, or something.

That is some quality gobbledygook.

[Certified Public Asshat]

Bad Facebook Derp:

I am so glad to see this. I mean "Christian Conservative" is such an oxy moron. How can you be anti abortion and pro guns when Jesus said turn the other cheeck, and all the things this list showed?

10 Things You Can't Vote For While Following Jesus

Choice derp from that list:

3) Letting people go hungry.

Gandhi said, "There are people in the world so hungry, that God cannot appear to them except in the form of bread."

[UnCivilServant]

Dear facebook twerp - Which is the more ethical, giving hungry people food you bought yourself, or calling for armed men to steal money to buy food for the hungry people?

[straffinrun]

That's a swell site.

[Haven "Irish" Monahan]

""How can you be anti abortion and pro guns when Jesus said turn the other cheeck, and all the things this list showed?""

Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. - Jesus

Yeah, he totally opposed weapon ownership

[Notorious UGCC]

Remember - these are the people who are comfortable with nuance and complexity, it's the conservatives who come up with simplistic answers to everything.

/sarc

[Haven "Irish" Monahan]

"7) Devaluing education.
We learn in Proverbs that wisdom is something in which God delights daily.
As a matter of fact, according to Proverbs, wisdom is better than gold.
When you look at the percentage of our budget which goes to education and at what little help Congress is giving around student loans, it's pretty clear that delighting in wisdom is something our government no longer does.
To follow Jesus, we need to make education a priority. After all, he was a rabbi ? a teacher."

This is retarded

[Lee G]

Dude, more money to education means more wisdom for everybody. It's totes obvious.

[Haven "Irish" Monahan]

I am not religious, but I clearly understand the Bible better than this idiot.

The entire point of Jesus was that there is a clear bifurcation between Earthly power and divine power. "His kingdom was not of this world" and all that.

Anyone trying to shoehorn Jesus' teachings into an Earthly political ideology completely missed the fucking point.

[John]

That is why Jesus got in so much trouble with the Jews. The Jews wanted a Messiah who would show up and solve their political problems in this world by kicking the Romans out. Old Testament Judaism was about worshiping God and him rewarding the tribe by smiting their enemies. Jesus completely rejected that and said stop worrying about this world and concentrate on the next. Christianity is the opposite of Utopianism. Yet, Utopian socialists are forever trying to corrupt it and use it to justify their Utopian madness.

[bacon-magic]

^spot on

[Renegade Jew]

He was, in the stories, a misguided nutjob who may not even have existed. But if it keeps the goyim in line, I'm all for the myth.

[John]

He totally existed. There is too much evidence of the effect he had for him not to have existed. And yeah, if you don't believe that he was the Messiah, he is a nut. There are few things more idiotic than the liberal "Jesus was just a wise teacher" line of bullshit.

Meanwhile, whatever you think of him, he told you dumb asses that rebelling against Rome was suicide. He also told you your lease as God's chosen people was up if you didn't change your ways. Considering the events of 57 AD, you can't say he didn't have a point. Just saying.

[Renegade Jew]

He totally existed.

Hahahahahaha, those sweet, gullible goyim!

[Renegade Jew]

And they're so gullible, they believe that stories written years after an event which have the character predicting the event show some sort of preternatural abilities and wisdom.

Goddamn, the goyim crack me up. So... cute and naive.

[UnCivilServant]

You're not really a jew, are you?

[John]

Lastly, a whole lot of very smart people in Rome rejected Christianity. And none of them ever argued that Jesus didn't exist. The first known reference of Christ in a Roman text is in Tacitus' Annals of Imperial Rome. Compared to Tacitus, you like one of those chimps they teach sign language to. And Tacitus was an old school Roman pagan. And when talking about Christians dying in the arena, he doesn't say "these idiots worship a made up guy". He says something to the effect of "we killed these morons' leader and yet they still persist in believing". And no that is not some apocryphal addition put in by a monk like the famous reference in Josephus likely is. It read just like Tacitus and says exactly what you would expect him to say.

There are few dumber arguments out there than the "Jesus never existed" bullshit.

[Juice]

Tacitus' Annals of Imperial Rome

Written in AD 116, well after the time period of the story. It also just refers to Christians and says that they follow Christ. It doesn't say anything about Jesus really.

wiki

Tacitus was a patriotic Roman senator.[44][45] His writings shows no sympathy towards Christians, or knowledge of who their leader was.[5][46] His characterization of "Christian abominations" may have been based on the rumors in Rome that during the Eucharist rituals Christians ate the body and drank the blood of their God, interpreting the ritual as cannibalism by Christians.[46][47] Andreas K?stenberger states that the tone of the passage towards Christians is far too negative to have been authored by a Christian scribe.[48] Van Voorst also states that the passage is unlikely to be a Christian forgery because of the pejorative language used to describe Christianity.[42]

[John]

Tacitus was a Pagan. If the Romans thought that Christ had never even existed, Tacitus would have known about it and mentioned it, since he clearly had no use for Christians. The fact that he didn't is very convincing evidence that the Romans in 116 AD, only 75 or so years after Christ's death, did not question his existence. If his entire existence were just made up, it seems very unlikely that people living that close to the events and with every reason to criticize Christians would not have known that.

[John]

He is a Jew. He is just not a very bright one.

[John]

If you don't Jesus existed, you have no understanding of how the ancient world worked or how we know anyone existed. How do we know Alexander the Great existed? We have some coins and a couple of mythical biographies written hundreds of years after his death. So how do we know he existed? We know he existed because there are Greek temples in India with his name on them. We know he existed because of the indirect evidence the effect he had created.

Its the same thing with Jesus. We know Jesus existed because less than a 100 years after his death we have Paul writting letters about him. If we found a letter referenced Paris prince of Troy written a hundred years after the Trojan war, it would end all doubt of Paris' existence. We have like a hundred times that amount of evidence that Jesus existed.

[Juice]

Its the same thing with Jesus. We know Jesus existed because less than a 100 years after his death we have Paul writting letters about him. If we found a letter referenced Paris prince of Troy written a hundred years after the Trojan war, it would end all doubt of Paris' existence. We have like a hundred times that amount of evidence that Jesus existed.

When people first read the first King Arthur legends they assumed that King Arthur was a real person and that this was an accurate history of the Britons.

[John]

When people first read the first King Arthur legends they assumed that King Arthur was a real person and that this was an accurate history of the Britons.

And those texts were written hundreds of years after the fact. If there were texts written in the 4th Century AD, people wouldn't doubt that Arthur existed. Indeed, he likely did in some form or another. Most historians admit that there likely was some historical Arthur who served as the basis for the stories, though he was almost certainly nothing like he is portrayed in the stories.

It completely reasonable to reject the claims that Jesus was divine. To say he never existed in the face of the enormous effect he had and evidence to the contrary is not reasonable. To believe that, you have to believe that the early Christians engaged in a conspiracy so convincing and well executed that no one in ancient Rome saw through it and no one in the conspiracy ever left the conspiracy and told the world the truth. Believing that is about on the level of believing Richard Nixon and the CIA killed Kennedy. The reasonable explanation is that Jesus lived and died and his surviving followers started a religion after his death. How valid their account of his life and their claims about him actually are is an entirely different matter of course. But to claim Jesus never existed is idiotic.

[Juice]

He totally existed. There is too much evidence of the effect he had for him not to have existed.

Actually, outside of the Bible and writings by Christians hundreds of years later there is literally zero evidence that he ever existed.

[John]

Actually, outside of the Bible and writings by Christians hundreds of years later there is literally zero evidence that he ever existed.

Complete and total bullshit. read your own post about Tacitus above. Moreover, even the most skeptical scholars argue the Gospels as we now know them were written in the 2nd Century AD. That would be at most 150 years after the events. And certainly not hundreds. Moreover, the majority view says they were written in the late 1st Century. There is a long list of reasons for this too long for here. But there are features of the language and details mentioned in them that make it very unlikely to have been written in the 2nd Century.

Then there is this completely verified letter from Pliny the Younger written around 110 AD, where he writes Trajan for advice on what to do with these nuts called Christians. I would think if they worshiped someone that was known never to have existed, he would have mentioned it. And if Christ didn't exist, how the hell were there enough Christians running around in 110 to cause such an issue? Jesus existed. There is no reasonable case to be made that he didn't. What you think about him is up to you. But any reasonable person looking at the evidence has to see there was an historic Jesus, whatever you think of him.

[commodious spittoon]

He's not the misguided nutjob who may not even have existed we need, but the misguided nutjob who may not even have existed we deserve.

[John]

He told the truth spittoon. And telling the truth never works out well for anyone. The last thing people want to hear is the truth.

[commodious spittoon]

SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP

[Certified Public Asshat]

When you look at the percentage of our budget which goes to education

And when you do not look at that and instead look at per student spending, the United States is 5th in the world.

[UnCivilServant]

And then you look at the states and realize that places like New York pay twice the national average for medicore results and conclude it's not just about pouring money on the districts.

[Rhywun]

It's almost like the armies of bureaucrats and the six-figure pensions aren't having the desired effect.

[waffles]

Can we really be sure until we give into all of their demands?

[Tornado16nb]

The author of that piece then followed it up asking for money to support his blogging. Heh.

[Glide]

If anyone read to the end, I hope they laughed as hard as I did at "The faith he taught valued free will over compulsion ? because that's how love works," in the context of that list of things that we should forcibly compel people to do 4Jesus.

[Certified Public Asshat]

I only skim bullshit like this list, but great catch!

[Juice]

1) Anti-LGBT laws

Ask yourself: "Who would Jesus discriminate against?"

Um...

Jesus would still consider homosex to be a sin. He'd want you to stop sinning (and stop thinking about sinning) in that way or he'd throw you in hell for all eternity. btw-Jesus is pretty discriminating in who he lets into heaven, don't you know

When people who were sick needed care, Jesus gave it to them.

Yeah, with magic. Now he just lets them all suffer. What a prick.

9) Forcing your religion on others.

One of the strengths of the faith Jesus taught about was its meekness.

The faith he taught valued free will over compulsion ? because that's how love works.

Compelling people to follow any religion, more or less your personal religion, stands over and against the way Jesus practiced his faith.

Except, you know, the punishment for not following his religion.

[waffles]

Do you even Christianity or are you just willfully dense?

[Eternal Blue Sky]

'3) Letting people go hungry.

Gandhi said, "There are people in the world so hungry, that God cannot appear to them except in the form of bread."'

Yes. This Hindu guy knows what the Christian thing to do is!!

Also, funny, I thought the Christian bible MANDATED "letting people go hungry". Pretty sure it calls for fasting.

[Free Society]

Indonesia Approves Castration for Sex Offenders Who Prey on Children

The Indonesian president, Joko Widodo, signed a decree on Wednesday authorizing chemical castration for convicted child sex offenders and requiring those released on parole to wear electronic monitoring devices.

The new punishment comes in response to the brutal gang rape and murder in April of a 14-year-old girl on her way home on the island of Sumatra. Seven teenage boys were each sentenced to 10 years in prison for the crime, which prompted national outrage and revived previous calls for chemical castration as a punishment against child sex offenders.

Mr. Joko told a news conference at the presidential palace in Jakarta, the Indonesian capital, that he had signed a decree amending the country's 2002 law on child protection to enable judges to hand down the punishment at their discretion.

[UnCivilServant]

Why is it always chemical castration? What happened to the scalpel?

[John]

Or is human balls are like cow balls, the big rubber band. I bet castration by rubber band would deter these perverts.

[Injun, as in from India]

Off-topic: Has anyone heard from Almanian, or know him in real life? I wonder how he's doing.

Should we start an online "Get well" card for him?

[Groovus Maximus]

Almanian gave me a nice "Welcome Back, Groovus."

[DOOMco]

He's been in sone late night weekend threads

[straffinrun]

Those electronic monitoring devices are jumper cables.

[Injun, as in from India]

South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley signed into law Wednesday a ban on abortion after 20 weeks.

There goes the woman vote.

[Drake]

So, just like Western Europe?

[Ken Shultz]

"France says there will be "no retreat" from strict new labor regulations."

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

[Crusty Juggler]

University of Oregon frat apologizes for trash left behind at Lake Shasta

Pictures of the destruction went viral on Facebook Sunday, showing dozens of tents, bags of trash, coolers and clothing left behind after a student trip to the national forest.

Frat boys rape nature, too.

[bacon-magic]

Grab Gaia's motherfucking leg! - Phi Alpha Rapa

[Agent Cooper]

"University of Oregon officials have said they are investigating the situation and will "take action as appropriate."

Since Mother Nature is a woman, this is obviously a Title IX investigation.

[Crusty Juggler]

iPhone manufacturer Foxconn is replacing 60,000 workers with robots

Foxconn, the manufacturing company that builds electronic devices for a range of companies including Apple, Samsung and Microsoft, has reportedly replaced 60,000 human workers from one of its factories in China with robots, according to the South China Morning Post.

In an article describing the growth strategies in the country's Kunshan county, Xu Yulian, a department head at Foxconn's factory there, told the paper:

"The Foxconn factory has reduced its employee strength from 110,000 to 50,000, thanks to the introduction of robots. It has tasted success in reduction of labour costs."

[bacon-magic]

They won't threaten suicide either...

[commodious spittoon]

Bring back our jerbs! We should be employing AMERICAN robots to manufacture phones.

[UnCivilServant]

Those american robots are going to be stuck flipping burgers!

[commodious spittoon]

Foxconn has in the past been criticized for the apparently draconian conditions it makes its factory workers live and work in. Multiple suicides have been reported, and the company even installed safety nets, reportedly to prevent workers from jumping to their deaths from factory rooftops.

Not even a hint that the suicide rate among Foxconn employees is lower than the general rate in the US, let alone China's. Yes, maybe that's an apples-to-oranges comparison, but working at Foxconn appears to reduce the willingness to commit suicide.

[Tornado16nb]

So to me progressivism is an ideology attractive to control freaks and those with delusions of grandeur. It is borderline evil imo.

That said, i think most progressives (non politicians) and (non bureaucrats) are not really control freaks, but rather they are in it for the social signaling. Progressivism to them is a positional good on how to let others know their status and how noble they are. My observation is they are very lazy....they want to get credit for being caring yet need/force others to do the leg work.

Thoughts?

[Drake]

In it for the social signaling and the free shit. Do not forget the free shit with those people.

[Injun, as in from India]

I think it's well-intentioned naivete, coupled with a disdain for those who disagree.

My prog neighbors are generally good people, and very helpful.

What they don't get is that vesting more power in the name of doing good ends up causing more trouble than it's worth.

As for the disagreement, they confuse a refusal to go along with do-gooder government policy as a callous disregard for their fellow human beings. That's what it comes down to IMHO.

[Agent Cooper]

They can't understand nor comprehend anything positive being created outside of the state. There's only one true method for solving the world's problems even if statistics prove them woefully wrong.

[Dan S.]

8-inch floppies were created in the 1970s, and phased out for most purposes in the 1980s. Anything to do with nuclear weapons can't really be considered "most purposes". If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[Juvenile Bluster]

Self-proclaimed "Ecosexual" students "marry the sea" in ceremony at Santa Monica College

Some students then made their way down to the water, where they were urged by event organizers to "consummate" the marriage and "make love with the water."

"Stick your toes in the water ? or any part of your body that you want."

The event, according to Professor Katherine, "was funded by a number of campus organizations" with the main sponsor being the University's Public Policy Institute chapter.

One attendee of the event?who identified herself only as "Serenity"?spoke about the importance of gaining consent from the earth before proceeding with a physical relationship.

"Back when I would hug trees in Santa Cruz, I would sort of ask the tree if it was okay if I hugged it and I would feel their spirit or energy or something give a response back, and then proceed accordingly," she told The Corsair. "Consent is definitely important. Do you think the Earth would consent to fracking and pollution? Probably not".

"It was actually our second marriage so it was kind of like renewing my vows for me," added SMC EcoSexual Club president Diego Marquez.

With picture showing said students looking exactly like you'd expect a bunch of "ecosexual" students to look like.

[commodious spittoon]

Bar the one in the lower left-hand corner, I wouldn't touch any of these freaks with Crusty's penis.

[Agent Cooper]

Universities have become state-sponsored cults.

[Free Society]

They're all in a polyamorous committed relationship with the Earth. Just think of all the diseases the Earth has. Ewww.

[Rhywun]

This is almost as WTF as that puppy thing.

[neoteny]

I would sort of ask

Sort of? That's rapesplaining.

[Eternal Blue Sky]

"The Sanders movement has become impervious to reality," suggests The Atlantic's Molly Ball.

It's like we keep making concessions to the guy the longer he stays in the race and for some reason he keeps staying in the race!!

[Ken Shultz]

"How Native Americans in Arizona are fighting for food sovereignty. "

In a related development, Liz Warren has come out against red skin potatoes.

[Stormy Dragon]

I'm reminded of an article discussing how most younger people have no idea what the standardized save icon is supposed to be a picture of because they've never seen a 3.5 inch floppy.

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[lukashik]

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