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Is Donald Trump a Threat To the American Way of Life? Or Just the Republican Party?

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Let's cut to the chase: Is the possibility of a President Donald J. Trump really an "extinction-level event" to all that is good and decent about "liberal democracy and constitutional order," as Andrew Sullivan claims in his widely read debut at New York Magazine?

Not even remotely.

Indeed, if anything, the chaos Trump has rained down on the 2016 election may well accelerate the demise of not just the current moribund iteration of the GOP but also drive a stake through the heart of a dead-but-still-with-us Democratic Party. Here's hoping.

After quoting long passages of Plato's Republic (which, he informs us helpfully, he "first read" in "graduate school") and name-checking the truly mediocre Sinclair Lewis's meditation on U.S.-grown fascism, It Can't Happen Here, here's where Sullivan ends up:

Trump is not just a wacky politician of the far right, or a riveting television spectacle, or a Twitter phenom and bizarre working-class hero. He is not just another candidate to be parsed and analyzed by TV pundits in the same breath as all the others. In terms of our liberal democracy and constitutional order, Trump is an extinction-level event. It's long past time we started treating him as such.

I like and respect Andrew Sullivan tremendously, and I consider him a fellow traveler in a (very) broadly defined libertarian movement (indeed, the Christmas party he mentions attending in his story was at Reason's DC HQ). Far more importantly, he's a true pioneer in the world of new media and a thinker who brings an enormous amount of erudition and seriousness to political and cultural discourse (as much as any single individual, he reframed the debate on same-sex couples as one of marriage equality and his anti-drug-war stance nearly makes up for his pro-actual-war stances over the years).

But when it comes to Trump as an existential threat to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, he is not simply wrong, but incredibly wrong.

I say this as someone who is as anti-Trump as his first two ex-wives and Rosie O'Donnell put together. The emergence of Donald Trump as a presidential frontrunner is many, many things and none of them is good. He's an embarrassment to the Republican Party, which is simply reaping the anger, resentment, and stupidity it has sown for years. He's a cause of serious concern for illegal immigrants, especially Mexicans, and all of us who see relatively open borders and free trade as central to any definition of "American exceptionalism" that's worth a damn. And he is a completely unqualified delusioniac whose grand-mal narcissism and radical inconsistency from one minute to the next is tougher to stomach than (I imagine) a Trump steak. But FFS, he in no serious way poses a threat, much less an "extinction-level" one, to liberal democracy, a society of laws-not-men, or limited government. However bad he might be as president, it's unfathomable that he would be worse than his two immediate predecessors when it comes to flouting law and convention (this is especially the case since he would face pushback on every front and has no experience with how to govern).

The most important thing to understand about Trump is that he is not the start of anything new but the culmination of a long degenerative process that has been at work for the entirety of the 21st century. He is a sterile mule in the end, not a jackass who might have hideous offspring. He is the effect, not the cause, of the ways in which the two major parties have destroyed themselves by refusing to take their own rhetoric or govern seriously. The Republican Party said it stood for small government when virtually every major action it has pursued at least since the 9/11 attacks has yielded the opposite result. The Democratic Party, still trying to maintain a disparate collection of special-interest groups that started morphing and changing and expiring by the mid-1960s, lays claim to the mantle of caring about regular Americans even as its last three major presidential candidates (John Kerry, Barack Obama, and Hillary Clinton) long ago achieved escape velocity from caring about anything resembling everyday reality.

And then there is simple fact that politics is less and less engaging to all of us, thank god. Do we need to keep pointing that fewer and fewer of us form our identities, our communities, or our meanings in life via political affiliation? The last time Gallup checked in, just 26 percent of us admitted to being Republicans and just 29 percent to being Democrats, figures that are near and at historic lows for the parties.

Who can blame us? And who can stop us? No one.

Despite serious economic issues (which have been extended and intensified by government interventions when not caused by them in the first place), our lives in the 21st century have been getting better and better thanks to an unstoppable mix of technological innovations, cultural shifts toward pluralism and tolerance, and the decline in all sorts of public and private gatekeeping institutions.

The "libertarian moment" that Matt Welch and I heralded in The Declaration of Independents is real and it continues apace in our personal and commercial lives. If you don't think so, take a few minutes to recall what your life was life back in, say, 2000 or 2001. At every level of American society back then, people had less stuff and less options for life, even though the things we did have were spectacularly better than what we had in 1990 or 1991. I'm no Dr. Pangloss and I don't take material and social progress for granted; it's just that I believe eventually Americans route around political obstacles to achieve a more perfect union. Ask Obama about his shifts toward legalizing pot, embracing gay marriage, and pursuing criminal-justice reform if you don't believe me. He was pulled there by cultural forces that forced his hand politically.

Arguably, the one thing that was indeed better at the start of the 21st century then now was the state of national politics. Due to a set of truly weird, unpredictable, and unrepeatable circumstances, a Democratic president and a Republican Congress that his early incompetence brought to power—unimaginably, at the time—somehow managed to govern semi-competently in a way that didn't completely piss away the "peace dividend" that came with the end of the Cold War. That said, serious discusson of foreign policy went missing and nothing was done to rein in the old-age entitlement spending that is slowly bleeding the federal budget dry. Even back then the rancor and partisanship of that period was seen as historically high at the time, with Bill Clinton being called a serial murderer by characters such as the Rev. Jerry Falwell and Newt Gingrich, Clinton's even-darker twin brother by a different mother, was chased from office for all sorts real and imagined crimes against decency. From the indefensible (and politically stupid to boot) impeachment trial to the eventual elevation of the child-molester Dennis Hastert to Speaker of the House, the negative spiral took over and whatever brief moments of patriotic solidarity emerged in the wake of the 9/11 attacks—there was more bipartisan support for the completely unjustified (and Sullivan-approved) invasion of Iraq in 2003 than in 1991!—dissipated fast enough so that by 2004 the parties were once again at each throats.

This is not a small thing, but we too easily forget how each of the national parties completely betrayed voters in various ways for the past 15-plus years. The century was ushered in under the single-most-contested election in U.S. history, with each party suddenly adopting the other's philosophy in pursuit of victory. The Republicans called it a federal matter while the Dems wholeheartedly embraced state's rights (this switcheroo would repeat itself in the Terri Schiavo affair). The deep-seated recognition by voters that each party is uncommitted to anything approaching its core values is what's driving the 2016 election season. While enjoying complete control of the federal government for years under Bush, the Republican Party didn't just go war-crazy but spending-crazy, regulation-crazy, and entitlement-crazy.

At the same time, the party's leadership lied to the people again and again about how it was prosecuting and succeeding in the "global war on terror" and paraded frauds and incompetents such as Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld in front of us as if they were grand statesmen. Even before he left office, Bush had delivered part of Congress to the Democrats, who immediately failed to follow through on their own promises to restrain government spending and act more forthrightly than the GOP had. When given his own super-majority amidst financial panic in 2008, Barack Obama got everything he wanted, from a useless and oversold stimulus to about the only truly major legislative reform bill passed solely by one party since the Civil War (and even then, Obama had to "sweeten" his health-care-reform offerings to the last Democratic holdouts so much that he damn near gave Sen. Ben Nelson sugar diabetes).

We should not forget how awful Obama was in his first two years—the opposite of the blandly inspirational "Hope and Change" candidate—and the sense of disappointment with him and his party eventually gave rise to yet another shift in power (a "shellacking," Obama dubbed it, but it was really a swift kick in the pants). Like Bush before him, it's not simply that Obama failed to deliver on campaign promises or rosy scenarios that folks hoped for. It's that he openly alienated us by lying through his teeth about civil liberties and higher truths. The proprietor of the "most transparent administration ever" wasn't simply letting his various apparatchiks enter lobbying immediately upon leaving federal service, the guy was running an extra-legal, secret "kill list," for Christ's sake, tripling troops in a losing and "dumb war" in Afghanistan, and actually prosecuting journalists under phony espionage charges. On top of it all, he was sending feds to raid medical marijuana dispensaries in California and deporting immigrants by the boatload.

I reprise a condensed version of the 21st-century parade of horribles not simply to wallow once again in the failures of the Bush and Obama years or to suggest a plague on both houses. We've been so long accustomed to absolute rancor in politics (at least back to the early 1990s) that we've become numb to the fact that both the Republican and Democratic Parties have had chances at governing and have not just done poorly but catastrophically. They refused to ratify budgets, make themselves accountable, and do anything other than bail out Wall Street and car companies and buy votes from this or that group.

That's the landscape into which Donald Trump emerged, and Hillary Clinton too. These two wedding-party pals in no way represent a new turn in American politics but simply the end of the road for, on the one hand, a party that fielded more than a dozen candidates—including senators, governors, and sons and brothers of presidents!—who had so little to say that they withered under a real estate developer's sophomoric put-downs. On the Democrat's side, Clinton was nobody's first choice in 2008 and still isn't. Back then, it only took an anonymous senator with no track record to bump her off. This time, the only difference is that her party is so totally lacking in warm bodies that a 74-year-old socialist who still hasn't processed the collapse of the Soviet Union (much less Chavez's Venezuela) actually made a former First Lady, U.S. Senator, and Secretary of State sweat out her eventual nomination.

In his New York essay, Sullivan likens Trump to Vladimir Putin, thereby appealing to Trump's own vanity while revealing an overdeveloped sense of drama:

Tyrants, like mob bosses, know the value of a smile: Precisely because of the fear he's already generated, you desperately want to believe in his new warmth. It's part of the good-cop-bad-cop routine that will be familiar to anyone who has studied the presidency of Vladimir Putin.

But in fact, unlike Putin (or Bush or Obama or Clinton), Trump hasn't ever killed anyone, whether in a KGB operation or via an execution chamber or a battlefield decision. Trump may win the presidency, but he will face not pliant lackeys but bitter clingers to the shreds of the tattered old Democratic and Republican Parties. Beyond that, as even Sullivan acknowledges, he is already moderating his views on everything from his disgusting plan to deport 12 million illegals to banning abortion to killing the children of terrorists. A reverse Teddy Roosevelt, Trump will speak loudly and carry a little stick everywhere he goes.

That's because for all his bombast, fabulism, and crudeness (making fun of a handicapped reporter, suggesting Ted Cruz's father was friends with Lee Harvey Oswald, any comments regarding Megyn Kelly, pretending to have seen Muslims celebrating 9/11 in New Jersey), Trump is actually not channeling a true tyrannical or fascistic urge among Americans. His signature promise that he "will make America great again" has been widely misunderstood, I think. It's less about dropping bombs and invading foreign countries or poking the Chinese in the eye and more about something far less frightening.

As Peggy Noonan puts it at the Wall Street Journal, Trump stands out in this election season not because he is dangerous but because he is the only candidate who seems to give a shit (my words, not hers) about the lives of regular people. Remember when he thanked the "poorly educated" after winning in Nevada? When's the last time they were even acknowledged as something other than a problem to cured? Noonan observes that where Bush and Obama were all about ideology in one form or another, about pushing grand visions of right and wrong and using regular people as markers in a game of Risk, Trump is either pre- or post-ideological and the only thing he cares about is the country writ large:

You could see this aspect of Trumpism—I'm about America, end of story—in his much-discussed foreign-policy speech this week. I have found pretty much everything said about it to be true. It was long, occasionally awkward-sounding and sometimes contradictory. It was interesting nonetheless. He was trying to blend into a coherent whole what he's previously said when popping off on the hustings. He was trying to establish that there's a theme to the pudding.

She calls what Trump is performing "simple patriotism." It's certainly simple-minded but it's also a revelation at this late date in the American Experiment.

He certainly jumbles up the categories. Bobby Knight, introducing him at a rally in Evansville, Ind., on Thursday, said that Mr. Trump is not a Republican or a Democrat. The crowd seemed to like that a lot.

Those conservative writers and thinkers who have for nine months warned the base that Mr. Trump is not a conservative should consider the idea that a large portion of the Republican base no longer sees itself as conservative, at least as that term has been defined the past 15 years by Washington writers and thinkers.

We can add to this that most Americans are as sick of conservatives who say they want small government while doubling budgets as they are of liberal Democrats who bomb foreign countries and prosecute the drug war and deport immigrants. If Trump was actually channeling something other than the public's disenchantment with two failed parties and with politics itself, it might be worth getting worried about him. But unless you are a Republican who worries that his heading up the ticket will make it hard for your own preferred poseur to win re-election or a Democrat who deep down knows that Hillary Clinton is a terrible person and would be a terrible president, lighten up already. One of these two people, Trump or Clinton, will be president come next year. Either of them will almost certainly be terrible, but that only makes them the latest in a line of terrible presidents who subverted the Constitution and increased the size, spending, and scope of government in ways that are still not yet fully understood.

Trump's victory tonight in Indiana—and likely later in California and Cleveland and maybe even in November—will thus only speed up the evacuation from partisan politics that's been taking place since the 1970s, when far higher percentages of Americans defined themselves as Rs or Ds and dutifully went along with all that entailed. As political consultant and ABC News analyst Matthew Dowd has noted, Trump is not so much a threat to the future as he is the end of line for parties that need to be disbanded or completely transformed. "This cycle," wrote Dowd a couple of months ago, "is likely to be an accelerator for the success of independents locally and at the state level-developments that can only be good for our democracy."

Precisely because he is showing how weak the Republican Party apparatus actually is, Trump may even be the least-bad outcome in November, for his victory will force us finally as a nation to move into the 21st century politically as we have culturally. We have started growing up when it comes to sexual orientation and pot legalization; we're embracing school choice for poor kids as well as rich ones and we're confronting the damage done by locking up entire generations of young men. Most of us (Gallup again) want the government to do less and for individuals and businesses to do more. Politics—the systematic organization of hatreds, as Henry Adams put it—has long gotten in the way. With Trump at the helm (or for that matter), it will be more attractive than ever for us to figuratively leave D.C. behind and get on with our lives out here in the rolling fields of the Republic.

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  1. He’s no more or less of a threat than any of the other presidential candidates. Is he a horrible ignorant buffoon? Yes. Could he be the worst president ever? Sure. Does a Trump presidency have potential to be better than a Sanders, Cruz, or Clinton presidency? Unfortunately, the answer is also yes.

    1. No, no it does not. Cruz and Clinton don’t actually believe in ‘yellow peril’ bullshit. They are also not mentally ill, at least not obviously so.

      1. Cyto, what do you think of the latest Rasmussen poll? Is it predictive?

        1. I think it’s a wild outlier.

          http://www.realclearpolitics.c…..-5491.html

          Do I really have to do everything? Do everyone but me and 12 other people have cunts for brains?

          1. Come on, buddy. Tone it down. Insulting people is a poor argument.

            1. It’s all he has. He got all sore assed when Lindsey Graham had to drop out of the race and now he’s had to lower himself to support the only other hardcore neocon available, Hillary. Like no one could see that coming. He’s reached Shreek level trolldom, only Shreek typically has better manners and social etiquette. Pathetic.

              1. So you’re also down to pasting together a word salad?

                Again: do you ever think? Do you know anything? I guess that would be impossible. What with having only cunt where there should be a brain.

                1. I thought you were a libertarian. The NAP would seem to suggest, to me at least, that you shouldn’t start insulting people who have not been aggressive or impolite to you.

            2. “Insulting people is a poor argument.”

              I love how I get this but no one else does.

          2. That table in the link doesn’t impress me. It looks pretty tight to me, only +6 for Clinton isn’t much 6 months out. The winds they are a changin’.

            And your “cunt for brain” was old the first time you said it.
            You’ve got cunt on the brain, however.

            1. ” only +6 for Clinton isn’t much 6 months out.”

              It is plenty, especially considering that 1) Trump’s negatives are toxic and 2) Polls start becoming predictive mid-April.

              There’s this amazing correlation between being a Trumptard and not knowing anything about anything. I’m sure it’s all a coincidence.

              1. ‘It is plenty,”

                It is paltry.

                Gee, this debate stuff is easy. Oh yeah, I forgot: You have shit for brains (did I do it right?).
                Also, you don’t know anything, because of the shit in your cranium.
                Also, on account of your shit-brain status, I have a low opinion of you.

      2. If Trump wins, is Cytoxic going to move to Canada? Oh, wait…

        1. No, but I’ll be grateful I don’t have to. Good news is immigrating here isn’t that hard.

          1. Well, I’ll keep that in mind. Probably a little too cold for my tastes. But come on guy, just because people disagree with you is no reason to be rude.
            A week ago, we had a nice conversation about dieting and working out. A couple days after, I opined that Trump may actually have a chance at winning POTUS, and you instantly got rude and started insulting me.
            Don’t get defensive, but, if everybody tells you are acting like an asshole, then maybe you should take a look at your actions.

            1. Get a room you two.

              1. Well, I laughed. What in the world is a DERP, though?

            2. Cytotoxic is the sort of fellow who, if you find yourself agreeing with him, makes you wish you hadn’t.

              1. So I’m relatively new ’round these parts. But am I the only one noticing the word toxic in his name? Is that just coincidence? If it squawks like a bird, walks like a bird, etc, etc?

                1. Yeah.
                  I’ve been an asshole in my life, maybe very recently, though I hope not. I’m making an effort to be nice. And Cytoxic and I actually had a nice conversation the other day. But, man, her really turns the asshole dial up to ten.

      3. Cruz and Clinton enjoy the benefit of being beholden to the moderating influence of garden-variety political corruption. But I would say Sanders, being, like Trump, a genuine fanatic would have the potential to be as bad as or worse than him.

  2. Any way you slice it, a Trump/Hillary ballot in November is no win for liberty. At least the journolists and anti-war crowd will suddenly find their voice again.

    1. I can see Trump enacting Bloombergian soda laws.

      1. I can see Hillary enacting party loyalty checks.

    2. It’s historically bad. I’m 50, and I can’t think of a single worse choice in my lifetime. (Okay, maybe Nixon vs. McGovern, but I was far too young to care…)

      That said, maybe the political circus needs to completely implode before libertarianism has a chance to rise from the ashes…

  3. I have nothing particularly constructive to add. Just wanted to say fuck you, Nick.

    1. Yeah, this passage crossed a line:

      But unless you are a Republican who worries that his heading up the ticket will make it hard for your own preferred poseur to win re-election or a Democrat who deep down knows that Hillary Clinton is a terrible person and would be a terrible president, lighten up already. One of these two people, Trump or Clinton, will be president come next year. Either of them will almost certainly be terrible, but that only makes them the latest in a line of terrible presidents who subverted the Constitution and increased the size, spending, and scope of government in ways that are still not yet fully understood.

      1. Which line? The red line?

        1. The line in the commentariat sand?

      2. You seem to think I need a particular reason to hate Nick. I didn’t even read the article.

      3. Don’t you see how hip and Kewl the Nickster is? I mean by gosh if posing as a detached, to kool4skool hipster didn’t do it before, then I guess he’ll just have to make his ENTIRE FUCKING CAREER ABOUT IT.

        1. Just another boomer trying to live vicariously thru his millenial offspring. A socialism-loving younger generation can only be libertarian in the eyes of a lunatic.

          1. They don’t love socialism, but they don’t love capitalism either. I think they’re just confused and shallow. Like Nick.

            1. They do love socialism. Not quite to the level of Chavez, but they do. Some will grow out of it, but the Leftward drift continues (and is what Nick the Moron confuses with a libertarian moment).

              1. In some ways saying the Left loves socialism strikes me as saying the Right loves fascism. Regarding American norms that type of comment is completely banal. There’s historically been a pretty large gap in those types of government and both major US parties.

                However, it does appear that the Left is drifting towards a regulatory socialism-lite model. Whereby, instead of the government directly controlling business, the rules and regulations are so encompassing that the end result is effectively government controlled.

      4. It does seem to be… Ignoring the elephant in the room? He’s saying that, since previous people have already destroyed our country and liberty, there is no reason to worry that the next group will be even worse/do even more damage, because…? Libertarian Moment?

        1. I wonder if they’ll be screaming “Libertarian Moment” when Hillary arrests them for violating campaign finance laws after her SC nominee guts the first amendment…

    2. Nick and his morning urine libation are the very reason that I will not vote for Gary Johnson in November. It’s hard to pick a better anti-spokesman for libertarianism and Nick.

  4. I like and respect Andrew Sullivan tremendously, and I consider him a fellow traveler in a (very) broadly defined libertarian movement (indeed, the Christmas cocktail party he mentions attending in his story was at Reason’s DC HQ).

    fix’d

    1. BUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNN

      1. Weed’s out back. The Cosmo DCHQ is a non-smoking facility.

    2. THAT THERE THEMS FAGS DID DUZ DRANK FAG DRANKS COSMOS

      1. SHUT YER DICK-SMACKER, COLLEGE BOY

    3. “I ch-ch-choose you, Nick! Can you come to my cocktail party? Yours, A.”

  5. What about Hillary? What the fuck is she, our savior?

    1. At this point, kind of.

      1. lololololol

        1. Not the hero we deserve, but the crook we need-and deserve.

          1. Trudeau is your guy. He’s better than Hillary, you better stick with what you already got.

            1. I do remember how back in 2012 Cytotoxic thought he was the great Libertarian Hope.

              Anyway Rachel Notley is his guy,

            2. Trudeau IS better than Hillary.

              1. I don’t know, that’ like saying a stomach flu is better than dysentery.

                1. To clarify, technically it is, but both are still not on the list of things I want.

          2. Not the hero we deserve, but the crook we need-and deserve.

            Interesting coming from the guy who said I should kill myself for not believing in the Libertarian Moment.

            1. He’s a troll, man. Shreek level troll. Obviously the kid hates libertarians.

          3. At least she’ll put all her political enemies in nice cushy fun camps.

  6. “I like and respect Andrew Sullivan tremendously,”

    Good place to stop reading.

    1. That Nick also calls him a ‘fellow traveler’ in any sense goes to show how serious Nick is. ie not in the least.

  7. It took Sully until grad school to read Res Publica? Fuckin’ piker.

    I read it in first-year Uni. Was he too busy drinking bad coffee during his undergrad to bother?

    1. Yeah, well, I read it in high school. By college I was already on Symposium. *takes long puff on oversized pipe*

  8. “However bad he might be as president, it’s unfathomable that he would be worse than his two immediate predecessors when it comes to flouting law and convention ”

    Thank God that was there early so I could skip over Nick’s wall of text. Nick is a shit writer and the more he writes, the shittier it is.

    No Nick, Trump will not drive a stake through the Dem party. That’s just the brain damage from hipster-poisoning giving you dreams. Trump will basically give the Dems a lock on millenials and American politics for a long, long time.

    1. Are you sure you’re Canadian? Because the stupendous Canada I know and that has come back doesn’t recognize such snark.

      1. It’s in a competition with Shreek to lick Hillary’s cankles the most. Yet another millenial who knows everything.

        1. I never asked you to talk. Piss off. You’re not wanted at the adults table.

          1. Lol, I like this guy, he’s a funny guy!

            1. And smart.

      2. “Because the stupendous Canada I know and that has come back doesn’t recognize such snark.”

        Translation?

        1. HELLO. TRUDEAU HAS MADE US MORE RESPECTFUL AND POLITE AND CARING AND SPOONY!

          1. Ahhhh. Yes I remember the day he came before us. A babe born under a new star. Really creepy that his face was the way it is now.

    2. “Trump will basically give the Dems a lock on millenials and American politics for a long, long time.”
      Unfortunately, I think that ship has already sailed halfway around the world by now.

  9. OT: Reason Foundation among those sued by the attorney general of the U.S. Virgin Islands.

    Or maybe it’s not off-topic: Would a Trump appointee do this? I think not. Would a Sanders or Clinton appointee? Oh, you betcha.

    1. “Would a Trump appointee do this?”

      Yes he obviously would, and the only reason you say otherwise is because you’re a partisan idiot.

      1. Well, it wouldn’t be the result of climate denial.

    2. Would a Trump appointee do this? I think not.

      How can you be so sure?

      1. Delusional partisanship.

    3. The acting A.G. in question was appointed by Governor Kenneth Mapp, an ex-Republican and current Independent.

      Neither the Democratic Party nor the office of the U.S. President played any role there.

      1. So Virgin Islanders are just a bunch of dicks then?

    4. Can the H&R commenters claim any credit?

    5. Shit, is there another gag order on Reason for this?

      If there is, you know what these fucking AGs really need…..

  10. Howsabout, he’s not a threat to either?

    Winning, in politics, heals all wounds. And I think he beats Hillary (barring whatever events might pop up to change the dynamic in her favor). So the Repub Party will be fine, and might even be better off for a thorough housecleaning.

    1. I don’t think anyone who thinks Trump stands a chance against Hillary should be talking about…anything, except where he can fill his prescription for anti-psychotics.

      1. I’m no Trump fanboi, but latest “voting intention” polls seem to suggest that Trump and Hillbot are now neck-and-neck. Imagine what it will be like a couple of months from now.

        1. The same or different, but louder?

        2. Yeah, Hillary was up 40 points on all Republicans. Remember that? What happened to that?

        3. Is that the Rasmussen poll? The one that is an outlier to all the other polls?

          1. I believe you mis-spelled “most recent.”

            1. Outlier: http://www.realclearpolitics.c…..-5491.html

              1. We shall see. As my training in Stats taught me, outliers can also be the initial change in the trend-line. The hairs are rising on the back of my neck.

                1. Yeah, 6% points isn’t insurmountable. I’d still give Hillary at least a 70-80% chance of winning. But it’s not as sure a thing as it appeared fairly recently. The American electorate is such a fickle thing. And economic performance and foreign policy/security events can change the landscape drastically.

          2. I wouldn’t consider polls that try to predict election results months and months in advance to be very accurate. Generally, the farther away the election, the less accurate the polls will be. I really don’t know why anyone takes any of these dumb polls seriously, especially this far away from the election.

            I think it’s most likely that Hillary would win against Trump, however.

        4. It’s in Comey’s hands now. And from what I hear he hates Shrillary

          1. Won’t matter. Loretta Lynch wouldn’t proceed, and even if she did, Obama would just pardon her.

            1. And what if some ticked-off FBI agent leaks the results anyway? Not everyone there is a Democratic partisan.

              1. So, what happens? Fox runs a few days worth of stories on it and everyone waves their arms around and does some hand wringing and then literally fuck all will happen.

  11. “With Trump at the helm (or for that matter), it will be more attractive than ever for us to figuratively leave D.C. behind and get on with our lives out here in the rolling fields of the Republic.”

    As someone who want to go back to Virginia, could y’all literally leave D.C. behind as well? Or at least move it to Nebraska or wherever?

    1. Yeah, like the fedgov is in the business of letting people get on with their lives.

      “You may not be interested in the State, but the State is very interested in you.”

  12. I say this as someone who is as anti-Trump as his first two ex-wives and Rosie O’Donnell put together.

    IIRC, Ivanna’s endorsed her ex. Marla hasn’t specifically done so but said he’s more than qualified to be president.

  13. I like and respect Andrew Sullivan tremendously,

    Seriously? After he completely lost his shit over Sarah Palin, how can you respect him?

    1. Trigger is Nick’s child!

  14. “With Trump at the helm (or for that matter), it will be more attractive than ever for us to figuratively leave D.C. behind and get on with our lives out here in the rolling fields of the Republic.”

    WTF planet does Nick live on? Does he actually think we just need to be more repulsed by DC to ‘believe’ it away? Like in Sphere? Why does Reason continue to give space to this moron?

    1. Does he actually think we just need to be more repulsed by DC to ‘believe’ it away?

      Who is “we?” Channel your energy toward whatever goes on in Saskatoon.

      Why does Reason continue to give space to this moron?

      The same reason why they allow you to comment here.

      1. Cyto is Lindsey Graham’s shitty little dildo.

        1. Another typically erudite remark from Reason’s leading candidate for ‘most likely to have never read a book without pictures in it’.

          Again: do you know anything? Do you ever think?

          1. Well, one thing I always think is that you’re an idiot and troll every time you show up here to bloviate on with your neocon bullshit. You’re on the wrong blog, brah. The necon blog is over there with all the other Hillary supporters. But if you want to continue to make a complete fool of yourself, I do respect free speech, carry on.

            1. You don’t know what a neocon is. You should try reading. It might make you smarter, and not a dumbshit.

              1. Yeah and I don’t know what socialism is either. I really love being told these things by snotty nose little losers with no life experience.

          2. Mark Twain said that all writing is an old story told in a new way, or a new story told in an old way. And while there’s definitely something fresh being brought to the table here, the presentation does not overcome the lack of originality. The commentariat can rightly be accused of such a dizzying array of flaws, foibles and felonious intent. “Stupid” as an insult, in this place? No one respects the safety play.

            4/10. Extra point for proper spelling.

            1. …what?

              1. It isn’t funny if I explain it. Figure it out.

              2. What HoD is saying is you only rank a 3/10 on your content.
                Are you stupid?

            2. Well done. Cyto, he said that many people here make many errors, but none are stupid.
              But you, the guy calling everyone stupid, had to have that explained to you.
              So, one last time, try being respectful of others, even if you think they are wrong.

      2. “Who is “we?” ”

        I don’t know. Ask Nick; he’s the one who said “it will be more attractive than ever for us to figuratively leave D.C.”.

        “The same reason why they allow you to comment here.”

        Pretty sure it isn’t. I have a sharp mind. Nick does not.

  15. A Trump victory tonight in Indiana …. will thus only speed up the evacuation from partisan politics

    I am shocked – SHOCKED – that a long screed on Trump was boiled down to inevitable Libertarian Momentism.

    The truth is that “partisan politics” has simply changed character, not dissolved.

    If independents have grown as a category, it only means that the Parties have been too slow to cover their expanding polarization.

    take a few minutes to recall what your life was life back in, say, 2000 or 2001. At every level of American society back then, people had less stuff and less options for life

    Couldn’t disagree more. There was just as much ‘stuff’, more opportunity, a wider range of political thought, and a far-less stifling attitude towards culture. You’d be more likely to find 20 different points of view on a subject than 2. And none of them would be considered “heretical”.

    1. You’re correct unfortunately. There’s a fine line between hopeful optimism and gibbering insanity when it comes to belief in the nonexistent libertarian moment.

    2. far-less stifling attitude towards culture

      Certainly true on college campuses, at least. I wrote an opinion column for the college paper for a semester. I suspect if I tried that today I’d be featured in one of Robby’s stories and banned from campus.

    3. I agree with everything except the last. There was less stuff back then. Internet was worse.

    4. Look, you didn’t have Uber and iCrap (‘cept iMac’s) and THAT is the only stuff that matters. Totally libertarian moment.

    5. For once I agree with cytotoxic. Technological innovation, thanks primarily to the persistence of some semblance of a private sector, takes a lot more than what’s happened the past 15 years to grind to a complete halt; as such. But a fairly trivial point. There was more stuff in Germany in 1940 than in 1930 too.

  16. Trump may even be the least-bad outcome in November

    The #nevertrump RINO cocktail party circuit doesn’t even make D-list now.

    1. You really know how to paste together a word salad.

  17. Didn’t Sullivan make essentially the same claim about Bush, McCain, and Romney? He went full-on “Republicans = teh NATZIS” after W endorsed the anti-gay-marriage amendment.

    Trump might be a threat to America or he might just be another ignorant douchebag politician — but I sure wouldn’t trust Sullivan’s opinion one way or the other.

  18. Didn’t Sullivan make essentially the same claim about Bush, McCain, and Romney? He went full-on “Republicans = teh NATZIS” after W endorsed the anti-gay-marriage amendment.

    Trump might be a threat to America or he might just be another ignorant douchebag politician — but I sure wouldn’t trust Sullivan’s opinion one way or the other.

  19. Oh the horror

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/04…..ium=Social

    1. The parents of a male teen student who endured a 9-hour threesome with a pair of high school English teachers have sued the teachers as well as the deep-pocketed local school board.


      FUCK BITCHES GET PAID

      1. Nine-hour threesome?

        Starting to hate this kid a little.

        /poutyface

        1. I’m pretty sure (*from experience) everything accomplished in the first few hours is simply repeated over and over again.

          Its like, is the entire Lord of the Rings trilogy better *all in one go*? There’s a reason they break it up.

    2. Trauma?

      The only trauma will be when he realizes that nothing will ever live up to that incident. He’ll be comparing everything else to it and nothing will suffice.

    3. Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice

      Seriously. Would. Would. And then again.

    4. 9 hours??

      I blew a load in pants just looking at the photos of those two bitches….

    5. Lol. Eric Owens, the Daily Caller reporter is also thinking “Niiice.” Get a load (ahem) of this sentence:

      The male teen at the center of the lawsuit ? and who was also at the center of the threesome ? is now 18 years old.

      Busted for bragging. Dude, that “gentlemen never tell” rule was invented for a reason. And that reason is “plausible deniability.”

    6. Title IX investigation! Title IX! I demand a Tittie IX investigation!

  20. I’m just worried about the example he’s setting regarding hair replacement.

    1. Hey, a lot of us could use a little help in that regard, y’know.

      (Speaking strictly for my brothers here, of course…)

  21. Just sort of musing out loud: A lot of libertarians (myself included) cheer growing levels of skepticism in government. But we also tend to assume that other institutions or ideals will act to unite Americans as a people, or that we can get along as a society of individuals or loosely affiliated groups without need to share too much in common. That’s probably true of us, but that’s one of the reasons we are libertarians in the first place — we don’t tend to need that communal group experience as much as others, and we tend to be more comfortable with a diverse society. But most people aren’t libertarians, and they need to identify with a strong group. For lots of people, government and nationality fill that role in a unique way. If Trump or Clinton or the general awfulness of the major political parties destroy people’s faith in government, the result might be that people instead find faith in themselves or in non-coercive groups or in the high ideal of liberty. Or they might end up dividing even further along ideological lines and feel like they have even less in common with the other side(s) than they do now, and that could end badly. Maybe the Libertarian Moment is real, but that doesn’t mean everyone is going to react to it the way libertarians will.

    1. I thought libertarianism was just a cover for people who want to avoid diversity!

    2. I want to reply, because I think this is insightful and important, but I don’t know the answer.

  22. OT:
    something going on with the AG of the Virgin Islands. Wants to indict various groups on racketeering charges due to their global warming skepticism.
    Reason was listed as a party of the investigation.
    I’m sure something will be appearing on site in the next day or so.

    1. When do we get our subpoenas?

    2. How many divisions does the AG of the Virgin Islands have?

      1. None, but I see this as a trial balloon (no pun intended).

        No doubt some asshat Democrat AG has gotten this guy to fire the first salvo and see what the reaction is.

  23. Welcome to petty, parochial and punitive Quebec:

    http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/que…..-1.2886231

    “…In 2014, stores including Wal-Mart and Best Buy won a court battle with the province over signs.
    Related Stories

    The OQLF wanted the companies with English trademarks like Canadian Tire to have some sort of descriptor so that people would know what they were selling.

    Two courts ruled in favour of the retailers, saying they were not violating the sign law. The province is now amending the law.

    All businesses ? not just stores, but restaurants, hotels, and companies ? will have to have some type of French descriptor on anywhere the English name can be seen from outside.

    If the English trademark name is illuminated, the French description will also be required to be illuminated.

    The government estimates this will cost companies anywhere from $500 to $9,000.

    Language minister Helene David said it simply makes good business sense to ensure the majority of clients feel welcomed.

    “It’s very important, because we are in Quebec and the people here in Quebec want to see something specific for their own language, so we see Supercentre Wal-Mart, they feel that they are incorrect. They are not in Maine, they are not in the state of New York, so they feel that they are in Quebec, where the French language is the official language,” said David.”

    (cont’d)

    1. Supercentre Wal-Mart…They are not in Maine, they are not in the state of New York

      Well yeah. Even people in Main and upstate New York know how to spell Supercenter, and that qualifiers come before the nouns they modify.

      1. What’s funny is that i initially imagined that in the “Medieval” sense.

        I was like, “Whoa, these legislators must be in the pocket of “Big-Monastic-Scribe

  24. Trump stands out in this election season not because he is dangerous but because he is the only candidate who seems to give a shit (my words, not hers) about the lives of regular people. Remember when he thanked the “poorly educated” after winning in Nevada? When’s the last time they were even acknowledged as something other than a problem [to be] cured?

    Buried in this epistle (seriously, are you paid by the word? infatuated with Dumas?) was this nugget.

    Heart of the piece, right there.

    1. Thanks for fucking up my flow, HoD.

      1. Why, are we syncing? Usually, you have to spend a lot more time around a gal before that happens.

        1. Are you flirting with me?

          1. I’m pretty sure references to ovulation-synchronization aren’t a come-on, Roof.

            1. /dejectedly puts condom in pocket.

    2. “Regular people” are going to bury Trump. But now that it comes up, it’s really not a bad thing that ‘regular people’ are not paid attention too. They’re ignorant. They don’t have anything to contribute.

      1. Yeah, here’s the genius who said Trump could NEVER win the GOP nomination. That’s a hell of a legacy you’re going on there. I agree with what someone else said, you need to lay off the drugs. I mean, I’m all for anyone putting anything in their body they want to, but you’re making a public fool of yourself. Just admit you don’t know American politics. I mean you don’t even know the states. Give it a break and think it over, geez.

        1. “Yeah, here’s the genius who said Trump could NEVER win the GOP nomination. ”

          This does not make me any less than 100% right about his prospects in the general.

          You take a lot of verbiage to not say much. And what you say isn’t even worth being said.

          1. Yes, it does, lol.

            1. The cognitive dissonance is strong in him. Then again, he is a canuck… so it is to be expected.

      2. Speaking of regular people, I hear there’s an irregular volunteer unit forming up to go reinvade Libya; why don’t you put your money where your mouth is and join it and leave the rest of us alone?

    3. And those regular people don’t like free trade an open borders. So about that libertarian moment… Oh, right.

      1. Those people are going to get buried in November.

        1. Probably, but I’m tired of them taking me with them.

  25. The stupid is special with this snazzy one. And then they wonder why Quebec is sinking further down the shitter.

    Notice the paternalistic gibberish about it’s ‘good for business’ and that Quebecers are apparently stupid enough to not have noticed what Canadian Tire fucking sells by now or that they may go into a Krispy Kreme looking to buy paint.

    None of this enhances their ‘joual’ dialect version of French. On the contrary, it demeans it.

    I look forward to the day my daughter leaves this wretched place and we follow.

    Thanks for letting me vent.

    1. I forgot to mention:

      Like Wal-Mart needs her input on what makes for ‘good business’. And further notice, the law was fine and everyone was happy about the ‘balance’ it achieved and then suddenly the assholes in the Liberal party (not the PQ the FUCKING LIBERAL PARTY) decide to go banana republic and change it.

      Fucking jerk offs.

      1. MURICA! = “at least we don’t speak french”

      2. Cheer up, Rufe!

        My uncle recently moved from St. Hilaire to Kanata (Quebec to a suburb of Ottawa, Ontario for those of you who don’t know), and saw his overall yearly household tax bill drop immediately by ten grand. Ontario, for Chrissakes!

        Grass is always greener, and if that’s not far enough away, you can keep going west. We like Easterners out here ? we always think the fact that they moved demonstrates how sensible they are. 😉

        1. We are looking to move. We’ve had it here.

        2. By the way, we have friends that moved to Toronto and lemme tell ya, they’re loving it. They keep asking what I’m waiting for.

          And by the way, your uncle has ONE tax agency to report to. It’s nuts Quebec has this power.

          It’s literally irrational to stay here just for that reason alone.

          I envy those who have left.

    2. What is it about speaking French that makes people so insecure about their language? It was such a weird thing to see. That’s definitely something I don’t miss.

      But can you imagine how much worse it would be if the PQ stayed in power?

      1. I’m not sure it’s the French language per se that makes Francophones insecure. I have a hard time putting my finger on the problem ? my French rellies in Normandy, Paris and Switzerland quite happily mix up French with other languages, many of them English (“le sweater,” “le weekend,” etc.). Mind you, they also think most Quebecers are a bit bonkers, when they’re not disparaging them as hayseeds from the wilds of Canada…

        1. Well, they play the part when they obsess like this over nonsense.

    3. or that they may go into a Krispy Kreme looking to buy paint.

      Everybody knows you go to a Tim Horton’s (with the apostrophe, of course) to buy doughnuts in Canada.

      1. **AHEM**

        Please. Timmy Ho’s, or sometimes just Tim’s. “Tim Horton’s” is for the language purists and tourists.

        1. Please. Timmy Ho’s, or sometimes just Tim’s

          All my homies up in Ottowa want to give a shout-out to Tee-Ho’s, you know how we do, one love. Keep it hot and steamy, y’all.

          1. Tee-Ho’s?

            Too regional, too Outaouais-influenced for a national nickname.

            – 10 points

            (Oh, and it’s “Ottawa,” as my inner pedant tells me…)

            1. And people say Canadians are boring. Crazy talk!

              1. I know, right? 😉

      2. or that you go to Starbucks to report your hate crime to the barista who is now trained to be your social worker.

  26. Excellent job trolling the mongoloids, Nick. Well done.

    1. Not really. Trolling implies there was any intent. Nick lacks the brains, or for that matter, pithiness. Good god what an overwritten pile of crap.

      1. Scanning the comments the only people who got “trolled” in this post are you two

        1. Again, you’re pasting together words you don’t understand.

          Do you know anything? Do you ever think?

          1. Dude, you should cut your Adderall dosage in half.

            1. Okay. Now it’s 0.

          2. And you wonder why you don’t have any friends? Seriously dude. Just because your mommy says that you’re really likeable and it’s not your fault that no one likes you, it doesn’t mean it’s true.

            1. Actually I have plenty of friends. I just like calling out stupid people as stupid.

              1. We don’t want to know about your make believe friends.

  27. Both

    both

  28. Meh. This is just more people arguing over who gets to wild the reins of power. There’s no real discussion of reining the government in because that’s not what the people want. They want their pony and they want to send your pony to the glue factory.

    This whole election is on par with your average school board election. It’s just an argument over trial chieftains.

    1. This whole election is on par with your average school board election.

      Aren’t they all?

  29. hopefully if he is as bad as predicted people will taking voting seriously and maybe the parties will put up real candidates or he will actually fix what he is allowed to fix by the cretins in the Senate and Congress.

    I notice all the dire predictions about what he might do are not much different than the dire predictions made about Reagan. Things worked out pretty well with Reagan compared to every president since Reagan.

    1. Wow that is some fine reasoning there. ‘They said bad thangs bout Raygun too, so whycome Turmp not be a Raygun?’

      If you ever wonder why people like me look down on people like you, this is a good example of why.

    2. Unless you count the exploding debt, amnesty, ratcheting up the war on drug users, imposing a 21 drinking age on the states, and arming Saddam Hussein. But otherwise yeah, he was like awesome and stuff. At least Carter legalized homebrewing and did some serious deregulation. Carter was more libertarian than Reagan.

      1. Reagan, rhetoric over substance, the perfect distillation of the modern GOP

        1. That’s why he is their patron saint. He talked the talk, then turned around and did the exact opposite.

      2. Carter was more libertarian than Reagan.

        Only because Ted Kennedy hated him and stopped the worse elements of his agenda. And he supports socialized medicine too. And wasn’t the deregulation originally initiatives during Nixon’s time?

      3. I’m pretty sure congress did most of those things, FWIW. Yeah, presidents should veto shit. but they don’t unless its something they need for future votes.

      4. That’s absurd (also Amnesty was a good thing). Reagan’s adjustment of tax rates was a huge boon to freedom. He also liberalized trade and kept the government out of the computer biz for the most part.

        Carter did some good stuff, but he also upgraded the Department of Education and imposed a windfall tax on oil companies. He also fumbled away Iran.

        1. Reagan lowered taxes. Reagan lowered taxes. Reagan lowered taxes.

          Yeah, yeah, yeah, Hannity, we know. He lowered taxes. That makes him the best president ever. Because he lowered taxes.

          I’d call you a great American, but I wouldn’t want to insult anyone by comparing you to an American.

          1. Remind me again how many cabinet positions Reagan created again(1). Now Carter(2). Synfuels corp. The first solar boondoggles. Yeah, real libertarian.

      5. Carter = Desert One and 14% inflation. Case closed.

  30. Cruz is suspending his presidential campaign.

  31. Anyone who actually gives half a shit about freedom knows this is a disaster. Trump won’t just lose, he’ll take a bunch of candidates with him, one of which could be Rand Paul. Ticket-splitting is rare and getting rarer (contra Nick’s delusions about a post-partisan world). Rand Paul is one of our few hopes, and the fuckthistles supporting Trump could cause him to lose. I kind of hope these people get infected with a sterilizing pathogen.

    1. Lucky you won’t have to move to Canada.

      1. Where will I go to for decent healthcare?

        1. Sure as Hell not Our Home And Native Land, in my unfortunate experience…

        2. May I recommend the Shady Oaks cemetery, ASAP?

  32. When people genuinely fear a particular individual gaining the power of the presidency, then you know that the office holds too much power.

    1. “Confucius say when you make man big enough, he will step on you.”

      1. “Confucious say she who fly upside down have crack up.”

  33. Cruz suspending campaign.

    1. Fuck, you beat me by a minute.

      1. Grrizzly beat us both.

      2. It’s not like I don’t like most of the stuff Cruz is saying, except for the religious stuff. Wasn’t there a reason we separated church and state? He sounds like a fucking TV evangelist. I mean the melodramatic tone is over the top. It fucking reeks of phony.

        1. You don’t know what “Separation of Church and State” means, do you.

  34. What the fuck is Cruz talking about? It’s all lulz, all the way down. He’s bragging about how great a running mate Carly is. He picked her for some stupid ….

    Cruz just dropped out…

    1. Is she going to have a sex-change and change her name to Richard Schweiker?

  35. If the republican party really is so vile, evil and stupid that it can nominate the trash fire https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw41BDhI_K8 , then I will promptly leave the dead party and join one that’s growing:

    The Gallup Poll has a new estimate of the number of libertarians in the American electorate. In their 2015 Governance survey they find that 27 percent of respondents can be characterized as libertarians, the highest number it has ever found. The latest results also make libertarians the largest group in the electorate, as compared to 26 percent conservative, 23 percent liberal, and 15 percent populist. ( http://www.cato.org/blog/gallu…..electorate )

    Atlas Shrugged was supposed to be a warning, Not A Newspaper!

  36. OK I read this entire article. Oh how I wish Obama could do another term. Trump is horrible. I will vote Libertarian and hope HRC wins. Yet I find this defense of Trump deliciously revealing.

    1. This this this.

      1. Lol. Cytotoxic agrees with Tulpa, only he’s not trolling.

    2. Oh how I wish Obama could do another term….I will vote Libertarian and hope HRC wins.

      Libertarian Moment!

    3. Yeah, I can’t actually believe that I’m going to miss Obama. But I’m going to miss Obama.

  37. The “libertarian moment” that Matt Welch and I heralded in The Declaration of Independents is real and it continues apace in our personal and commercial lives.
    Citation needed.

  38. He’s a slander against hair stylists everywhere.

  39. but also drive a stake through the heart of a dead-but-still-living Democratic Party. Here’s hoping.

    Um how? If Hillary wins then how are the Democrats doomed?

  40. I like and respect Andrew Sullivan tremendously…

    And Gillespie fully trashes his credibility in the fifth paragraph.

    1. But bumps up his Progressitarian cred.

      Life is full of trade offs. He’s made his.

  41. I say this as someone who is as anti-Trump as his first two ex-wives and Rosie O’Donnell put together.

    Gillespie, you do know that both Ivana Trump and Marla Maples endorse Donald for President, right?

    As for O’Donnell, if I had to make a decision based simply on the knowledge of whether or not O’Donnell endorses a choice, I’d pick the opposite of O’Donnell every time.

  42. He’s a cause of serious concern for illegal immigrants, especially Mexicans…

    Tell me more good things about Donald!

    1. Nick says that like it’s a bad thing!

      And what is he thinking with “illegal immigrants”?

      Thoughtcrime! Thoughtcrime! The Ministry of Love will be over shortly to haul Nick and Jacket away. Bye, Nick.

      You know what’s in Room 101 for Nick and Jacket, don’t you? President Trump!

  43. …its last three major presidential candidates (John Kerry, Barack Obama, and Hillary Clinton) long ago achieved escape velocity from caring about anything resembling everyday reality.

    Hey! No fair to leave out Al Gore!

  44. [Obama was] deporting immigrants by the boatload.

    If only.

  45. Let’s cut to the chase: Is the possibility of a President Donald J. Trump really an “extinction-level event” to all that is good and decent about “liberal democracy and constitutional order,” as Andrew Sullivan claims in his widely read debut at New York Magazine? Not even remotely.

    I sure hope it’s an “extinction level event” for Hillary “T. Rex” Clinton, Ted “Panda” Cruz, and Bernie “Dodo” Sanders, plus the entire zoo of Democratic and Republican party functionaries.

  46. The important thing is that Melania Trump will be the hottest first lady ever.

    1. If we’re going to have State royalty, I’ll take the Trumps over the Bushes or Clintons.

      1. Or the Kennedys.

  47. Trump is the last, best hope for victory over the Progressive Theocracy.

    He potentially creates a realignment of the Republican party to an Old Right populism, breathing life into Republican voting demographics.
    He prevents millions more Progressive voters from joining the voting rolls.
    He leads the fight to stick it to Progressive propagandists in media and academia.

    The ever approaching but never arriving “Libertarian Moment” is laughable. The Libertarian Moment in the US, such as it was, was brought to you by an educated elite, with actual scientists, engineers, and inventors (did you know that even George Washington had a patent?). That was a freak moment in human history, never to come again, or at least not as long as there is universal suffrage. There just aren’t enough libertarians.

    Old Right populism is somewhat libertarian. It is possible, and preferable to alternative of the Progressive Theocracy .

    Progressitarians are not an alternative, to the Progressive Theocracy, but just the eager midwives of an eternal one party state Progressive Theocracy, where Open Borders paves the way to democratically insurmountable support for more and more government. Where elitist Republicans can at best be said to retard the speed at which the Progressive Theocracy grows, Progressitarians are intent on feeding the Leviathan with more and more voters.

    Trump is hardly ideal, but he is the first true hope to change direction, instead of merely changing speed.

    1. In terms of our liberal democracy and constitutional order, Trump is an extinction-level event.

      Our democracy is neither liberal nor constitutional. It was replaced by an illiberal, lawless and unconstitutional Progressive Theocracy. Here’s hoping that Trump is an extinction-level event for it.

    2. “Trump is the last, best hope for victory over the Progressive Theocracy.”
      Trump will vindicate progressives like no one before. After 4 years of this prick they’ll be ready to nominate Cornel West for president.

      A historical lesson for you: implementation of one theocracy does not undo the proponents of the prior theocracy, but rather inflames them.

  48. I had read that Sullivan piece. He needs to get a grip. There are plenty of ways in our constitutional government to stop a President from bringing the whole thing down in flames. Sullivan was a guy who thought Bush invading Iraq was going to be the cats meow. Instead, it was the biggest foreign policy disaster in a generation. And coupled with the largest fiscal disaster in a generation he presided over as well, we’ve recovered nicely, thank you very much.

    I’m sure the Republican majority in the House will keep him on line. Right?

    1. There are plenty of ways in our constitutional government

      You think our current government is constitutional?

      1. It’s not? What’s that thing called the Constitution? It keeps guns in your hands, doesn’t it? Someone take your guns away?

        1. Mah GUNNNZZZZZZZZ !

  49. That was a gem of an article for Gillespie. I would agree with over 90 percent of it. Trumpster v Hillbot. Either way it sucks foe liberty, but at least the debates will be highly entertaining.

    1. I for one can’t wait to watch the badlipreading versions of them.

  50. Not only have I enjoyed the establishment sweating it out…but I enjoy the punditry class getting it wrong week after week.

    Seems Trump may not only take down the Washington machine but the fawning sycophantic press apparatus with it.

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  52. Why to Reasonoids respond to CytoShriek?

  53. [I]f anything, the chaos Trump has rained down on the 2016 election may well accelerate the demise of not just the current moribund iteration of the GOP but also drive a stake through the heart of a dead-but-still-with-us Democratic Party. Here’s hoping.

    Be careful what you wish for!

    Modern-day America is good at tearing institutions down (or blowing them up). Unlike its founding fathers, it is less good at building durable ones to replace them.

    Just ask the people of Afghanistan, Iraq, & Libya.

    At best you could wind up merely shuffling deck-chairs. The Establishment types which run things now and which everybody loves to loathe won’t be going anywhere. Nor will the money men who have corrupted the system. The most likely scenario is that the same faces who ran the old institutions will wind up running the new ones, complete with the same kind of rules which benefit Establishment types like the Bushes and the Clintons and disadvantage the non-Establishment sorts. Like Trump, Cruz, and Sanders.

    That isn’t likely to be viewed as an improvement.

  54. Should trump pull off a victory, his tenure will no doubt be brief. Just a matter of time before a whacko assails him or impeachment proceedings commence.

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  56. Years ago many former Democrats left the Party because it had gone too far left. Now that the real Marxist heart of the Party has been exposed by Sanders, and the Party has officially gone over the edge, more are leaving. A friend who just switched Parties explained it this way: Democrats have gone so far to the extreme left that they are running open Marxists for US president! In my lifetime, commie thugs with Sanders ideology vowed to bury us and the US Govt trained us to kill them and sent us overseas to do just that. While Reagan and GHWB were waging a brilliant war to defeat the evil Soviet Union, Sanders took his bride there on their honeymoon! If you thought Howard Dean was crazy – and he is – then Bernie Sanders belongs in a padded cell….along with much of the rest of the Democrat Party! Instead of promising a chicken in every pot….Sanders promise is a crazy comrade in every closet! And Hillary Clinton is so corrupt she makes John Edwards look ethical!

  57. Apathy when paired with politics is a recipe for disaster, and that’s what we have here.

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