How Body Cameras Help Prevent Tragic Police Shootings #DedricColvin

"Everyone behaves better when they're on video."

Fourteen-year-old Dedric Colvin was shot on Wednesday when Baltimore Police mistook his BB gun for a semi-automatic pistol. As Ed Krayewski noted on Hit & Run, 

According to police, cops saw the boy with what looked like a gun and "gave chase," as the Baltimore Sun described it. The police commissioner insists there's "no reason to believe that these officers acted inappropriately in any way," because they didn't know if the gun was real or not. Police also brought in the boy's mother for questioning, and the police commissioner said she said she knew her son had left the home with the "replica."

If the officer involved had been wearing a body camera, might it have prevented this incident? In 2015, Reason's Paul Detrick sat down with former Seattle Police officer Steve Ward to discuss how cameras lead to better policing.

"Everyone behaves better when they're on video," said Ward, who started a body-camera company called Vievu. "I wanted to catch 100 percent of what a cop does."

Click below to watch the video:

Comments

[__Warren__]

You know what would really control cop behavior? Not having cops.

[Hyperion]

Replace them all with robots. It's been shown beyond doubt that humans cannot be trusted with the lives of other humans at stake. Robots should be programmed to neutralize threat, but never kill a human. Fantasy, you say? Do you want this situation fixed or not? You cannot trust most cops any more than you can most politicians, that is to say, not at all.

[commodious spittoon]

It's like you haven't watched a movie in thirty years.

[Hyperion]

Last time I watched a movie was last night. But I do realize that movies are fantasy, whereas I want to discuss reality.

[commodious spittoon]

If Robocop isn't reality, I don't want to discuss fantasy.

[Pompey]

Robocop isn't reality, just a whole lot of good fun.

[GILMORE?]

Replace them all with robots

I'd buy that for a dollar!

[Darth Squirrel]

Can you fly, Bobby?

[Francisco d'Anconia]

You cannot trust most cops any more than you can most politicians, that is to say, not at all.

Can we replace the politicians with robots too?

[Hyperion]

We could start with replacing politicians with people and going from there.

[Old Man With Candy]

We have. (see: Hillary Clinton)

[Deep Lurker]

It could be claimed that we don't have cops anymore. Instead we have the "standing armies" that the founders kept warning about - troops that are badly trained, badly disciplined, and full of arrogance and aristocratic pretensions, set to perform law-enforcement duties that even the best soldiers are... suboptimal for.

So bring back cops. Bring back cops who don't have the special weapons and equipment of an occupying army, but only those things that ordinary citizens can own without a permit. Bring back cops who don't have special legal or quasi-legal (union contract) protections but who are on the same legal footing as the public.

Bring back cops who are only cops, and not warrior-aristocrats fighting against metaphorical enemies and committing acts of war (and war crimes) against the general public.

Body cameras might be useful, but they're still just a band-aid.

[Rod Flash]

Bring back Sheriff Andy!

[Rod Flash]

Bring back Sheriff Andy! And get rid of all the Barneys.

[C. Anacreon]

I was in Chicago this weekend, and the TV news was boasting that the rate of increase in murders in April over the same period in 2015 was less than the increase in murders in March. Yes, they still had more murders than last year, but the percentage of increase was less than the previous month.

And then they were lauding the police chief 's efforts. Really.

Hey, before you start patting yourself on the back, how about having even one murder less than the previous year's record-setting pace?

When you compliment this level of horrible, no wonder people aren't ready to hold parades for your police force. And hey, you damn well better not have any evidence of profiling!

[Hyperion]

The corruption in Baltimore is like a country in Latin America. Seriously. I can't wait until the Freddie Gray trial starts up again. I can tell you now what you probably already know, they will all be acquitted and at least some of them are guilty as hell.

[Rich]

"Everyone behaves better when they're on video."

Are *you* prepared for The Day of Judgment?

[Hyperion]

No one behaves better on video when they're sure there is no accountability for their actions. It may be just the opposite. Anyone ever watched the TV show Cops? To them this thuggish behavior is some type of heroics.

[Gaear Grimsrud]

The popular culture deifies these assholes. Even as they blatantly violate people's rights they're portrayed as somehow our moral superiors. Compare that with the way cops were portrayed in a 1930s Bogart movie; comically inept and obviously corrupt. When Hollywood begins to question the police state we might see political pressure to reign in these thugs. The Wire was an exception to the rule and Making of a Murderer got a lot of attention but it will take a lot more.

[Hyperion]

Unfortunately, at the moment, Hollywood is dominated by leftists,and leftists love the police state.

[GILMORE?]

"Everyone behaves better when they're on video."

[KWlib]

"Everyone behaves better when they're on video," says the guy selling cameras.

[Trigger Hippie]

Wasn't 3/4 of all content on Chat Roulette videos of a guy jerking off?

[__Warren__]

That's one busy guy.

[Trigger Hippie]

You should see my forearms, wait,...drat!

[DenverJ]

Everyone behaves better when they're on video

Just ask Melissa Click.

[The Hyperbole]

Police also brought in the boy's mother for questioning

Perhaps I've seen too many cop shows, and maybe it was more of a -"Come on down to the station and give us a statement at your convenience."- kinda thing, but it sounds like they actually corralled this kids mom downtown to give her the once over because they shoot her kid. I know that I shouldn't be surprised, but that's fucked up.

[DenverJ]

Yes, let's throw the poor woman under the bus "You knew your kid had a toy that looked like a gun, and you let him out of the house? This is your fault."

[sarcasmic]

Well it isn't the fault of the cops. They are the "finest." Must be her fault. She wanted her son to be shot, and the cops were more than happy to oblige. Heck, she should be charged with murder for forcing the cops to kill her son.

[mr simple]

FTA on Ed's piece:She said she was leaving to call the hospital when officers handcuffed her and put her in a police car.

"It was humiliating," she said.

She said she was taken to a police station and asked questions. At one point, she said, she was put in a cell. She said officers told her she was being belligerent.

They had to come up with a good scapegoat right away, no time to let the mother see her child when reporters will be asking questions.

[GILMORE?]

Speaking of "people behaving badly on video"

... The point i found resonated most with me was his point about "Screaming hysterically just makes things worse".

I've seen that happen multiple times. Some people* apparently think 'shrill high-pitched yelling' is supposed to make people STOP being violent, when the actual biological effect is to instantly make everyone angrier, like (as per his example) a dog with a squeaky chew-toy.

(*and it aint just women)

[SIV]

Your link is to April 17 2016 video but the self-defense pipe beatdown was back in 2011. At least it had a happy ending.

[GILMORE?]

I'm not sure it was supposed to be "timely". It was just some bill burr-commentary that popped up on my Youtube feed.

[GILMORE?]

oh, and the "happy ending" is that the BK worker probably went back to jail, but so it goes.

[SIV]

No, the grand jury no billed the charges against the restaurant employee. The bitches got a 3rd degree burglary conviction to go with their pipe beatdown.

[GILMORE?]

Oh, well sweet then. they didn't mention that in the video, but suggested the guy was probably going back up the river.

[Playa Manhattan.]

That makes me hard.

[Hyperion]

What I call that is a well deserved ass beating.

[Derpetologist]

In case you missed it: helmet cam footage of bumbling ISIS fighter. It has a happy ending- they get blown up by a Peshmerga rocket.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM3ElTvF52I

And ISIS is now fielding child soldiers who sing creepy songs: https://videopress.com/v/rq7qvWwg

[Crusty Juggler]

So that is where Daniel Simpson Day ended up.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

+1 dead horse

[Rich]

God is Great.

[__Warren__]

That suicide bomber at the beginning of the video probably outlived those idiots.

And what was their plan once they got to that hill? Those few vehicles they were in did not look like they carried enough troops to storm the position, plus the closer they got the easier it would be for the defenders to fire down into the open tops and wipe out the fighters.

[Soave the Last Dance for Me]

See, this is why they should admit women and gay men. Organize that shit.

[sarcasmic]

I think this remains to be seen. If cops start getting sent to prison for stuff recorded on body cameras, then yeah their behavior might change. More likely their unions will successfully lobby to either hide the video from the public, or ban the cameras altogether. After all, the public trust is at stake here. Can't let something silly like the truth jeopardize something as important as the public trust.

[Crusty Juggler]

I agree with you in the short term, but I think they lose the body camera issue in the court of public opinion in the long run, so I have hopes for the future.

Then again I do try to be a Positive Pete with this kind of stuff.

[Crusty Juggler]

I don't know, I've done some pretty strange stuff on video.

[The Hyperbole]

Pics or it didn't happen.

[Crusty Juggler]

Not without the durian's consent.

[Peachy rex]

A durian? You *are* freaky.

[__Warren__]

He loves him some stank.

[pan fried wylie]

It's actually about the feel of the spiky exterior.

[Derpetologist]

Spot the Not: Phyllis Schafly

1. Sex education classes are like in-home sales parties for abortions.

2. My ears are not garbage cans. Obscenity laws ought to be enforced vigorously.

3. Sexual harassment on the job is not a problem for virtuous women.

4. The worst censors are those prohibiting criticism of the theory of evolution in the classroom.

5. It is long overdue for parents to realize they have the right and duty to protect our children against the intolerant evolutionists.

6. What I am defending is the real rights of women. A woman should have the right to be in the home as a wife and mother.

[GILMORE?]

I'm going with "3" now based on nothing except my attempt to discern a pattern within your "Not" arrangements.

[Jerryskids]

I assume Phyllis meant it's not a problem for virtuous women because virtuous women are at home in the kitchen where they belong, not hanging around in the workplace where the men are.

[pan fried wylie]

Standardized testing pays off.

[Notorious UGCC]

Here's another quote from Phyllis Schlafly:

"...In other countries and in other eras, it was truly said that "Man may work from sun to sun, but woman's work is never done." Other women have labored every waking hour? preparing food on wood-burning stoves, making flour, baking bread in stone ovens, spinning yarn, making clothes, making soap, doing the laundry by hand, heating irons, making candles for light and fires for warmth, and trying to nurse their babies through illnesses without medical care.

"The real liberation of women from the backbreaking drudgery of centuries is the American free enterprise system which stimulated inventive geniuses to pursue their talents?and we all reap the profits. The great heroes of women's liberation are not the straggly-haired women on television talk shows and picket lines, but Thomas Edison who brought the miracle of electricity to our homes to give light and to run all those labor- saving devices?the equivalent, perhaps, of a half-dozen household servants for every middle-class American woman. Or Elias Howe who gave us the sewing machine which resulted in such an abundance of readymade clothing. Or Clarence Birdseye who invented the process for freezing foods. Or Henry Ford, who mass-produced the automobile so that it is within the price-range of every American, man or woman."

[Notorious UGCC]

"This Amendment will absolutely and positively make women subject to the draft. Why any woman would support such a ridiculous and un-American proposal as this is beyond comprehension. Why any Congressman who had any regard for his wife, sister or daughter would support such a proposition is just as hard to understand. Foxholes are bad enough for men, but they certainly are not the place for women?and we should reject any proposal which would put them there in the name of "equal rights." It is amusing to watch the semantic chicanery of the advocates of the Equal Rights Amendment when confronted with this issue of the draft. They evade, they sidestep, they try to muddy up the issue, but they cannot deny that the Equal Rights Amendment will positively make women subject to the draft. Congresswoman Margaret Heckler's answer to this question was, Don't worry, it will take two years for the Equal Rights Amendment to go into effect, and we can rely on President Nixon to end the Vietnam War before then! Literature distributed by Equal Rights Amendment supporters confirms that "under the Amendment a draft law which applied to men would apply also to women." The Equal Rights literature argues that this would be good for women so they can achieve their "equal rights" in securing veterans' benefits."

[Notorious UGCC]

Referring of course to the Equal Rights Amendment.

[Notorious UGCC]

"Reading the Spring 1972 issue of Ms. [magazine] gives a good understanding of women's lib, and the people who promote it. It is anti-family, anti-children, and pro-abortion. It is a series of sharp-tongued, high-pitched whining complaints by unmarried women."

[Notorious UGCC]

A more recent quote:

"The big majority of students in college today are women rather than men, in contrast with a generation ago. But many of those women will want to choose careers of homemaking rather than 9-to-5 jobs in the workforce, raising the question of whether it was worth it for them to incur debt of $50,000 or more in going to college, debt that they cannot get rid of even by declaring bankruptcy."

[lap83]

deeply un-PC, but she has a point

[__Warren__]

Unpuc! Unpuc!

[Rod Flash]

"The big majority of students in college today are women rather than men"

And sadly, that includes most of the men.

[Notorious UGCC]

Ooh, burn!

[lap83]

I'll go with 2, the rest of the quotes are more old-fashioned than controlling

[Derpetologist]

2 is the Not. I made that up. She said some good things, but all lot of nutty things too. Her with Buckley on the ERA:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWyv5Fw0JSk

[lap83]

It sounds more like what a crazy sjw would say, except they'd call it something like "anti-triggering" laws

[SIV]

5. doesn't sound like Phyllis

[SIV]

I should have read down further

[Deep Lurker]

Half a century ago, a policeman encountered one of my co-workers, who was at the time "a fourteen-year-old boy carrying what looked like a gun." Except that it really was a gun. But the police officer checked out the boy's hunting license and wished him luck.

Body cameras may help, but the real problem is that the police have become a standing army, fighting wars: "War on drugs, war on crime, war on guns..."

[Crusty Juggler]

Bicycle races can be hilariously dangerous.

[Crusty Juggler]

Gerry Adams has finally committed a universal outrage.

[__Warren__]

Stupid Mick.

[Crusty Juggler]

Ban his voice and his Tweets!

[GILMORE?]

UGH BEING A JOURNALIST IS JUST SO HARD THESE DAYS, I MEAN LIKE DO I HAVE TO EXPLAIN EVERYTHING LIKE, I HIGHLIGHTED THE TWEET ALREADY I MEAN WHAT MORE DO YOU IGNORANT RUBES NEED

[Derpetologist]

Later this week, Kinsella will be outraged at Joseph Conrad over his novel The Nigger of Narcissus...until he is informed that Conrad has been dead for 92 years.

[GILMORE?]

I MEAN LIKE DID NO ONE EVEN MAYBE PULL CONRAD ASIDE AND BE LIKE, "DUDE, NOT COOL?"

[Charles Easterly]

He also wrote something about Africans called Heart of Darkness.

NOT OKAY.

[Soave the Last Dance for Me]

I'd personally love to see his article "Why Racism is Racism" but I'm sure it'll comprise entirely of tautologies.

I blame God for racism, for inventing the logos. And racism. EEK WORDS

[Lee G]

It's unfair to make him enact your labor and explain something

[Soave the Last Dance for Me]

"From each according to his ability"

Maybe he CAN'T EVEN

[Notorious UGCC]

"Gerry, I am sorry but you have lost my vote I do not tolerate racism :("

LOL!

[straffinrun]

Worst part is, she was talking to Merkel.

[Notorious UGCC]

This is like nailing Al Capone for tax evasion.

No, it's more like a Twitter storm erupting because Hannibal Lecter used the wrong wine with his meal of human flesh.

[Notorious UGCC]

Wait, I got it, it's like criticizing the Klan for wearing white after Labor Day.

[GILMORE?]

What movie were they talking about again?

[Notorious UGCC]

To be fair, it's different if every white racist who says n_____ ends up getting killed to the cheers of the audience.

[Notorious UGCC]

I understand there's a bit of a debate over whether Adams was actually one of the guys designating victims for the IRA, but he was indisputably in their political wing - he knew what the IRA was doing and he helped them out anyway.

[Lee G]

Hey, according to Peter King, Gerry Adams is just like George Washington

[Lee G]

I find it interesting that Gerry Adams twitters. I thought he sent his greetings in the form of a parcel bomb.

[Crusty Juggler]

His Twitter is a thing people write about.

[Notorious UGCC]

Wow, maybe he's been sniffing too much gelignite or something.

[lap83]

I'm outraged by the author's hair. It's like a coiffed bowl cut

[buybuydandavis]

The police commissioner insists there's "no reason to believe that these officers acted inappropriately in any way," because they didn't know if the gun was real or not.

Apparently shooting people when you're not sure whether they pose any threat at all is "acting appropriately".

[IceTrey]

Not even close to being true.

http://thefreethoughtproject.c.....me-cuffed/

[Soave the Last Dance for Me]

OT.

Look what I just found in the back of the book I've been reading ("Why Does the World Exist?" by Jim Holt):

http://i.imgur.com/gE7pAC9.jpg?1

It's getting harder to ignore this bullshit. Funny, since if they actually read the book, they'd find that, yes, there are many female philosophers, right in the very book you checked out and dismissively reviewed ... on the bio page of the book itself. Does the female gender or sex of such philosophers dispose them to having a better understanding or view of ontology? I'm skeptical, but I'd love to hear the idiot's argument.

UGH.

[Soave the Last Dance for Me]

You guys, I can't even

[straffinrun]

Don't write in your books! Drives me nuts.

[Notorious UGCC]

Nothing drives me nuts, my nuts drive me...

is the sort of joke a classless person might make.

[Soave the Last Dance for Me]

Is that you, Gerry?

[Notorious UGCC]

I've never watched Django Unchained and I've never promoted a group which assassinates civilians.

No, wait, for a brief time in my youth I belonged to the Democratic Party.

[Notorious UGCC]

...waits for Guy Fawkes jokes...

[Joe Pesci]

Getta loada this Fawkin Guy^

[Hyperion]

Why does the world exist? Does he mean why does anything exist at all? If so, this is the ultimate question. Let's talk about simulated realities.

[Soave the Last Dance for Me]

Does he mean why does anything exist at all?

Yeah, the refrain is "Why is there something rather than nothing?" It's really just a well-written philosophical survey? another reason that person's 'review' is insulting. Interest in and exegesis of others' ideas is "mental masturbation"? (Maybe. But is that a bad thing? People love masturbation. Sex with someone they love, right?)

[straffinrun]

Ask yourself, at 1:40 Would?

[Soave the Last Dance for Me]

As a sapiosexual, I'd have to see xer SAT scores first.

[straffinrun]

That is xer sat score.

[Notorious UGCC]

Mmm...blond German women with handcuffs...

I was going to say "but can she cook," but that would just lead to an oven joke.

[Charles Easterly]

I support Free Speech, even when I personally find that it is beyond the pale, Notorious.

[Notorious UGCC]

Well, I support your right to use a phrase which probably originated as a racist insult against the Celtic Irish.

[Notorious UGCC]

Having been duly chastened, I offer this inoffensive video just for you.

(don't watch it at work, the inoffensiveness will just piss everyone off)

[Charles Easterly]

I'll look at it presently. After a search, I found this source which I think may be of interest to you.

Here is a quote: "At that time, 'pale' was a doublet - that is, an etymological twin - of the much earlier word 'pole,' according to the Chambers Dictionary of Etymology.

Both 'pale' and 'pole' once had the same meaning and came from the same source, the Latin word palus."

[Notorious UGCC]

What do you think the Irish Pale of settlement was made out of?

[Charles Easterly]

The "Irish Pale of settlement"?

Either pretend for the purposes of this discussion or accept as a fact that I have had inadequate sleep for the past many days and am even slower of wit than is normal.

Here is a good example of it: Usually I'll scroll through the resource provided to glean what you or someone else provided via a link. This time I scrolled a bit and for reasons which defy normal patterns of behavior I concluded that I had scanned everything when in fact I had only looked at the first third or so. I looked at your reference again after reading your settlement question.

[Notorious UGCC]

No worries, I was simply messing with you, but not in a hostile way, not as such, not really.

[Charles Easterly]

I know.

In keeping with the spirit of that portion of the discussion: Read any good books lately?

[Notorious UGCC]

The best book I read recently was this one.

[Notorious UGCC]

Oops, that *was* a serious question, wasn't it?

[Charles Easterly]

Regarding the book you provided a link to and the internment camps during WWII, it seems to me that there are a great number of our fellow citizens who desperately want to believe that "It can't happen here" despite the available history.

[Soave the Last Dance for Me]

I, for one, will never graduate beyond the pole.

[straffinrun]

And then there's this beautiful scene of a Luddite convention.

[Lee G]

Portugal ain't a model of progress.

[Hyperion]

I love the luddites. Progress!

[straffinrun]

Don't speak Portuguese, but I think I get the gist

[Hyperion]

I actually do speak Portuguese. Brazilian Portuguese. It's like the American version of English, IOW, the right version, ta bom?

[Charles Easterly]

Good, Hyperion.

In that case you won't have to read the subtitles and will be able to enjoy the flow of this comedy bit named Rubber Bullets.

[Soave the Last Dance for Me]

This new Patton Oswalt set is pretty insufferable.

Obsequious comedians are not appealing. "Everything's getting less radical," indeed.

[Lee G]

But the purple and clairvoyant ones are killing it.

/obscure comedy reference

[Charles Easterly]

Patton Oswalt and many other comedians seem to enjoy criticizing things they clearly know nothing about.

[Crusty Juggler]

And to think that stand up special was the last thing his wife saw before she suddenly died.

[Soave the Last Dance for Me]

Holy fucking shit. I didn't know about that. That's depressing.

[Notorious UGCC]

I didn't know either.

[Crusty Juggler]

His wife recently died, so I was making an inappropriate joke about how bad his last special is. As in, his shitty special was so boring that it literally shut down her insides.

Gosh, don't get depressed about that.

[Soave the Last Dance for Me]

It's incredibly sad, though. Young daughter, pretty-decent guy and apparently good father.

Sudden deaths are the worst.

[lap83]

Very sad.

[Notorious UGCC]

So a guy it hitchhiking by the side of the road, and a car pulls up, but as he's about to get in, the driver asks, "what political party are you?"

"Libertarian," he answered. [see, I can adapt jokes to my audience]

"Get lost, you reactionary," said the driver, and drove off, leaving the hitchhiker behind.

The next car that pulls up, the driver does the same routine, refusing to pick up the hitchhiker when he discloses that he's Libertarian.

Now it's starting to rain.

The third car pulls up. The driver asks, "what party are you?"

"Democratic Party," says the hitchhiker, feeling guilty at the deception but not wanting to get drenched by the approaching downpour.

"OK, hop in," says the driver.

And as they're driving, the hitchhiker notices that the driver is a beautiful woman.

They approach a rest stop, and the hitchhiker says, "pull over and let me out!"

"So soon?" asks the driver. "Don't you want me to drive you into the city?"

"I have to get out," says the hitchhiker, "I've only been a Democrat for a few minutes and already I want to screw somebody."

"Democrat," says the

[Notorious UGCC]

Oops, left three superfluous words at the end.

[Soave the Last Dance for Me]

I hope he was taught not to rape.

[straffinrun]

Does he want to screw the driver or the runaway boy loitering at the rest stop?

[Notorious UGCC]

I ruined the delivery, didn't I?

[Soave the Last Dance for Me]

I kind of like the gimmick of incoherently trailing off right after giving the punchline. Very novel!

[straffinrun]

How do you ruin the delivery of joke you've TYPED! SMDH.

[Soave the Last Dance for Me]

Oh, so he wasn't taught not to rape.

[Notorious UGCC]

In case you missed it yesterday...

"Hold my beer and listen to this."

[straffinrun]

Excellent voice. Dancing. Not so much.

[Charles Easterly]

I thought that the performers did an impressive job.

I was embarrassed for a few individuals in the audience.

[GILMORE?]

Connecticut ostentatiously accepts a handful of Syrian emigrees = Kennedy Family* throw Governor a freaking party and give him an award for "Being Racially Cool and Shit and Not Like Those Other Dicks You Know Who We Mean"

(*I assume that term is just a proxy for "New England Democratic Party Elites" or something)

So White of him. Also like how he used the one Syrian family as convenient stage-props, and ensured to make sweeping remarks about America's historical Yokelism.

And he's still taking something like 1/10th the 'refugees' that Salt Lake City takes every year.

For the record, i think the Syrian refugee thing is like "keystone pipeline" in a way = its a political beachball that has little connection to actual US policy vis a vis refugees, etc.

The (sort of) irony is that the last time congress decided to stick their noses into the issue, it was to *speed up* importation of Iraqis who the State Dept had approved for 'asylum' status in return for aid during the invasion.... but got stuck in bureaucratic limbo because, you know, 'the fucking government'... many of whom died before asylum was ever granted.

basically its just an issue they use to pretend to hold the moral high-ground on whenever convenient, but which both sides of the aisle honestly don't give a wet fart about the reality of...

[GILMORE?]

re: Salt Lake = if that struck you as odd... i only learned like a few months ago that Salt Lake City (not Utah - just the city) takes in 1 to 2,000 refugees a year as a matter of course. and has a population of something like 10-15,000 people from all over the Fucked-Up-Parts of the world.

which is still like, less than you find on a corner in NYC on a summer day, but still.... Salt Lake City, man. If there's anyplace in the US that people from Connecticut will go, "Man, those are some White Ass White People", its got to be Utah.

[Crusty Juggler]

Those are icky white people in Salt Lake City. They aren't like the classy whites in West Hartford, or North Haven, or Greenwich, etc.

I did not know that about Salt Lake City. Good for them.

Also, "profiles in courage"? Stop it.

[Soave the Last Dance for Me]

I thought SLC was a hipster yuppie enclave in a conservative state, like Portland or Seattle or Austin.

[Soave the Last Dance for Me]

Or Weed in the state of Jefferson.

[Hyperion]

There isn't a state named Jefferson. Cause he was a white slave owner and therefore anything he ever did or said is irrelevant. Mao didn't own any slaves and he was not a white devil. Therefore communism. Shut up, bagger.

[Soave the Last Dance for Me]

I AM CONTRITE

[GILMORE?]

Also, "profiles in courage"? Stop it.

About the Profiles In Courage Award =

""It is given to individuals (often elected officials) who, by acting in accord with their conscience, risked their careers or lives by pursuing a larger vision of the national, state or local interest in opposition to popular opinion or pressure from constituents or other local interests.

In actual practice, it appears to be something given to loyal Democrat politicians if they've "won enough elections", and given to Republicans when they "buck their party" on some major culture-war issue like Abortion or Climate Change or whatever. The ratio being about 5:1 between the two.

[Soave the Last Dance for Me]

basically its just an issue they use to pretend to hold the moral high-ground on whenever convenient, but which both sides of the aisle honestly don't give a wet fart about the reality of...

I wonder how many political issues don't share this quality.

[GILMORE?]

Don't be silly = Some issues are about sources of political revenue, or constituent power-grabs or power-losses ....and are therefore life-and-death matters.

Keystone or the Migrants, etc. are basically bullshit that make no real difference no matter how they go. they're just symbolic pinatas to distract people from things that they'd rather not have to talk about... like "the budget" etc.

[Notorious UGCC]

And this one is for Charles Easterley:

Straight Outta Compton - the Redneck Version

[Notorious UGCC]

oops, here

[Notorious UGCC]

Celebrating Ireland's Catholic heritage

[Notorious UGCC]

Monty Python contributes to multicultural understanding

(trigger warning - at least rhymes with "trigger warning")

[Notorious UGCC]

Kermit does Nine Inch Nails

[Notorious UGCC]

(Wow, that video is even worse than I thought, watch it in a private place)

[Soave the Last Dance for Me]

You've never saut?ed the sausage to Miss Piggy?

[Notorious UGCC]

I've posted this often enough that it probably qualifies as an oldie.

[__Warren__]

I call it ham bonin'.

[Soave the Last Dance for Me]

Pinkying the pork to the porkette

[__Warren__]

Honey glazin'!

[Butts Wagner]

My go-to masturbation song.

[DenverJ]

That's great

[Charles Easterly]

And this one is for Charles Easterley

As far as I could determine the singer remained true to the original lyrics.

[Notorious UGCC]

OK, good night, guys. If Agile shows up, tel him James Joyce left this message for him:

"And Dub did glow that night. In Fingal of victories. Cann-matha and Cathlin sang together. And the three shouters of glory. ?Yelling halfviewed their harps. Surly Tuhal smiled upon drear Darthoola: and Roscranna's bolgaboyo begirlified the daughter of Cormac. The soul of everyelsesbody rolled into its olesoleself. A doublemonth's licence, lease on mirth, while hooney-moon and her flame went huneysuckling. Holyryssia, what boom of bells! What battle of bragues on Sandgate where met the bobby mobbed his bibby mabbing through the ryce. Even Tombs left doss and dunnage down in Demidoff's tomb and drew on the dournailed clogs that Morty Manning left him and legged in by Ghoststown Gate, like Pompei up to date, with a sprig of White-boys heather on his late Luke Elcock's heirloom. And some say they seen old dummydeaf with a leaf of bronze on his cloak so grey, trooping his colour a pace to the reire. And as owfally posh with his halfcrown jool as if he was the Granjook Meckl or Paster de Grace on the Route de l'Ep?e. It was joobileejeu that All Sorts' Jour. Freestouters and publicranks, hafts on glaives. You could hear them swearing threaties on the Cymylaya Mountains, man. And giving it out to the Ould Fathach and louth-mouthing after the Healy Mealy with an enfysis to bring down the rain of Tarar."

[Derpetologist]

I can't find the quote, but I recall his wife said something like "why can't you write normal things, James?"

[Notorious UGCC]

He did, but it was under the pseudonym "Stephenie Meyer."

And that's...the rest of the story.

[__Warren__]

Why would you write that name?

[Derpetologist]

So there's this poster of the Army fighting Moros on the wall near my room. At the bottom there's a disclaimer which says something like "NOT TO BE DISTRIBUTED IN KOREA". I suppose they're worried that the Chinese or the Norks will get it and use if for propaganda: "Evil Yankee Imperialists Celebrate Slaughter of Helpless Peasants".

http://www.history.army.mil/ht.....usaia.html

[Derpetologist]

oopsy- fixed link to poster: http://www.history.army.mil/im...../Moros.jpg

[pan fried wylie]

Because they can't make their own poster to that effect? "Look at this real poster they make and display" is any more effective propaganda if the poster in question is real or not?

[__Warren__]

You know Lily Tomlin may be an aging lefty but still, she's kinda hot.

[DenverJ]

Um, wot?

[__Warren__]

I'm saying that a person might enjoy conjugal relations with her as long as the pillow talk did not drift into the political realm.

[Charles Easterly]

Have you seen the movie All of Me?

[__Warren__]

Of course. Do you take me for some kind of barbarian!?

[Soave the Last Dance for Me]

Sure. And Ted Bundy, OJ Simpson, Tsarnaev, Richard Ramirez...

Morality and base sexual instinct are mutually exclusive.

[Soave the Last Dance for Me]

Jerry Brown is attractive. Even though he totally saved California.

[Soave the Last Dance for Me]

Teddy Roosevelt and Nixon were studs in their primes.

Give me a moral uggo. Or a cat. Fuggit.

[Butts Wagner]

My go-to masturbation septugenarian

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[Uncle Jay]

RE: How Body Cameras Help Prevent Tragic Police Shootings #DedricColvin
"Everyone behaves better when they're on video."

We simply cannot have body camera on cops.
Otherwise the police will be able to have target practice on live human beings.
Did anyone ever think of this when they employed body cameras on cops?