Great News! Harriet Tubman Will Replace Andrew Jackson on the Front of the $20 Bill
Alexander Hamilton, meanwhile, will stay on the $10 note.

Remember when Alexander Hamilton's face was going to be taken off of the $10 bill and replaced by a woman? Last summer, that's what Treasury Secretary Jack Lew said was going to happen. But no more!
Instead, Hamilton will stay on the $10 bill, while Andrew Jackson will be replaced on the $20 bill by abolitionist hero Harriet Tubman, according to several reports.
The Treasury Department previewed the move earlier this week without naming Tubman as Jackson's replacement. According to CNN, a government source said that the choice would be to spotlight a woman "representing the struggle for racial equality."
Hamilton, meanwhile, gets to stay, probably thanks in part to the incredible success and popularity of Hamilton, the Pullitzer Prize winning Broadway musical. Just a few weeks ago, the musical's creator, Lin-Manuel Miranda, met with Lew to defend Hamilton's place on U.S. currency.
This seems like a much better outcome than the Hamilton-ouster Treasury toyed with last summer.
Beyond his current musical-theater-based popularity, Hamilton seems uniquely suited to be pictured on currency, given that he was the first Secretary of the Treasury. The slave-owning Jackson, on the other hand, was not only a rather unpleasant president in a lot of ways (his treatment of Native Americans was particularly noteworthy for its awfulness) he actively opposed paper money. It's hard to figure out why someone like this would deserve to be featured on currency, and, indeed, it turns out that Treasury doesn't even have an official explanation for why he was selected to go on the $20 bill in the first place.
In contrast, Harriet Tubman, an abolitionist legend who led hundreds of slaves to freedom over the course of her life, seems like an excellent choice to appear on money.
The changes won't stop with Tubman's replacement of Jackson: According to The New York Times, "Other depictions of women and civil rights leaders will also be part of new currency designs."
Update: Not surprisingly, Reason's Damon Root was way ahead of the curve on this one. He argued for putting Tubman on the $20 bill last year.
Update 2: Tubman will replace Jackson on the front of the $20, but Jackson will remain on the back. And you'll have to wait a while to get your hands on the new bill: The design won't even be released until 2020.
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"Other depictions of women and civil rights leaders will also be part of new currency designs."
Hillary on the $3.14 bill?
An 8 (per) cent coin with Barack's picture on it?
I like it.
Lizzie Warren on the new Indian Head Nickel.
You make'm funny joke. I laugh much
Harriet Tubman will get knocked off her $20-perch just as soon as historians discover that she was (gasp!) a climate-change denialist!!!!
I think Hillary for the new $15 bill. Put a pic of a snuke on the reverse.
Hillary on the reverse of the Tubman Twenty would lower the tone.
that's not going to be a popular flavor of pi.
Who's on the $4.20 bill? Didn't Washington grow pot?
Mint a 77 cent coin to represent the wage gap she stands against.
This is literally the most important event of my lifetime.
Harriet Tubman is a pretty good choice. Some other good choices:
http://studioknow.com/2011/05/.....n-history/
I'm gonna vote for this Sally Salisbury. Sounds like she made a lot of young fellas very happy.
" carrying a drug to use on a baby if its crying might put the fugitives in danger. Tubman even carried a gun which she used to threaten the fugitives if they became too tired or decided to turn back...
On one occasion, she overheard some men reading her wanted poster, which stated that she was illiterate. She promptly pulled out a book and feigned reading it "
What an example to the youth of the nation !
Illiterates can go far. avoid school.
I'm trying to understand why anyone should give any fucks about whose picture is on money.
Tubman is a good choice. Should replace Lincoln on the five though.
Hamilton is the patron saint of big government. Wish he had gotten the axe.
Libertarians should admire Jackson, the last president to balance the budget, and a great opponent of state-affiliated central banking.
I would rephrase that as "Libertarians should admire how Jackson was the last President to balance the budget, and how he was a great opponent of state-affiliated central banking. They should despise Jackson for his abuse of the Cherokees, using his power of the presidency to force them off land the Supreme Court specifically confirmed that they had the right to be on."
Just because a given person has admirable qualities, doesn't mean that he is fully admirable.
he actively opposed paper money.
Worse than that. He shut down the central bank of the time.
His other flaws aside, that should get him some credit from libertarians.
It does. It is about the only thing most Libertarians see as a good thing from his presidency.
And I can tell you why he was chosen for the yuppie food stamp: Because the Fed Res. was sending a big FUCK YOU to the anti-central bank folks of the time (and current time). It is a big joke, a poke in the eye, the only guy to rail against the central bank (Jefferson just didnt renew the carter of the first one) would be put on the 20$ bill to show the richie riches that the fed has all the power now and can destroy your free banking icon with impunity.
p.s. I may be over dramatizing.
he actively opposed paper money. It's hard to figure out why someone like this would deserve to be featured on currency, and, indeed, it turns out that Treasury doesn't even have an official explanation for why he was selected to go on the $20 bill in the first place.
Deserve's got nothing to do with it - it was probably more out of spite. The same way they named the biggest, boondoggliest, bureaucrat-hiviest building in DC after Ronald Reagan. Or like calling a bill authorizing the government to spy on everybody a cybersecurity bill - it's a giant FYTW.
He was the founder of the Democratic Party when the Democratic-Republicans broke apart.
Now replaced by gun-tottin republican who was 'literally' bought and sold with US currency.
So many layers of weird.
I approve of weird.
Jackson also paid off the national debt.
WHITE GENOCIDE!
Already, a keep Jackson movement has begun.
How is this even jermaine to the discussion?
That joke was Dynamite.
I'm not sure how Jermaine is germane to the discussion.
Jackson, Jermaine, joke. Dig?
See, this is what I mean when I say it's tough to tell the difference between sarcasm and legitimate retardation around here.
When in doubt, go with legitimate retardation - it works for me when I'm talking to myself.
good idea!
People still use cash?
Only the smart ones.
Maybe they should put her on a $500 bill then to make it easier to pay for stuff. Carrying around a wheelbarrel of Tubmans when I need to buy bread is going to get old.
Oh don't worry, a comma and some zeroes will take care of the wheel barrow problem.
Maybe they should put her on a $500 bill then to make it easier to pay for stuff.
It's a trade off. It's racist to make the denomination smaller than your average 'old white guy' bill but if you make it too large, only white people will own them and they'll be forced to sit in the back of their wallets.
Excellent idea. No pol would have the guts to support the abolition [sorry] of a bill with a black woman on it.
Druggies, drug dealers, assorted other criminals, kulaks and wreckers...
Escorts and their clients...or so I've heard...
For some reason, strippers get really annoyed when you try to pay them by swiping a credit or debit card.
It's not the swiping, it's the 4-digit PIN you try putting in there.
There's a slot there, so techically... never mind.
Ya but chip readers have now royally screwed everything up
Dark money?
Black market.
Y'all racist.
SHE WASN'T ELECTED PRESIDENT. Presidents only, like we have now. Washington, Lincoln, Jackson, Franklin? All elected president. Tubman? As far as I can tell, she never got a single electoral college.
See, this is what I mean when I say it's tough to tell the difference between sarcasm and legitimate retardation around here.
There really should be a special font.
My brain sees all of Hugh's postings in Comic Sans.
Not Wing Dings?
You really need to update your font book
Good lord that's awful.
For retards? I agree. Fixing it so certain peoples' posts appear like they were written in crayon with a bunch of backwards letters will help us all take them as seriously as they deserve.
Oh, this is delicious.
That would be an upgrade for several posters.
Use this
*flips Sacagawea dollar coin*
Heads it's 'tardedness, Tails its sarcasm.
I'm a big fan of Sacagaweas. Somebody owed me $3 several years ago and paid me in Sacagawea coins. Turned out all three had rotated die errors.
Really, I have a stack of the things from the last time I used a stamp vending machine. Must check...
You can always count on Fist being legitimately retarded?
Benj. Franklin was never president, so there is a precedent.
I'm pretty sure Fist knows that.
You don't get to just DECIDE what Eugene knows. That is not your decision to make. That decision is his and God's.
You're right. I shouldn't have underestimated him.
I'm still waiting for the coin flip.
Looks like sarcasm.....this time.
Although Franklin was instrumental in actually creating the country, so there is that.
Grant, Jackson, and Lincoln weren't instrumental in creating the country either.
They were however Presidents. The issue was why a man (Franklin) who was not a President.
One of the older, bigger denominations had Salmon P. Chase on the front. Who da fuck was THAT guy?
Secretary of the Treasury under Lincoln.
Not to mention Hamilton. But it was definitely a joke.
It might have been a cry for help. You never know.
Sacagawea was a sergeant in the army. Just ask Bill Clinton.
Franklin? You so crazy. I can only assume we have reached full Idiocracy, and that you meant the $1000 Al Franken bill.
$1000 is Grover Cleveland
Finally, listening to the J. Geils Band has paid off.
$1200 is also Grover Cleveland
You're right, she never attended college. I hear she liked collages though.
I still think if they are going to put a woman on paper money, it should be the $14 bill.
Lincoln should be demoted to the $3.
If you're gonna keep Lincoln, at least do it right.
I write "fascist" on all my five dollar bills.
Can you break my $14 bill for me?
I need a $7 bill, a couple of $3's and a Susan B. Anthony coin, plz.
And should be worth 77% of its face value.
Where'd the extra percent come from? PROGRESS!
Jenna Jameson for the $69 bill.
Well, she obviously has a vagina, so that would be sufficient to qualify her for placement on the nation's currency.
Or to hold the presidency.
Or to serve on the Supreme Court.
If we're going to memorialize people, then I definitely prefer to do so for people who weren't politicians. Can we replace Lincoln with Spooner next?
I may be one of the minority of libertarians here who really likes Lincoln, but Lysander Spooner would be great on any denomination. Even better, Spooner stamps!!
I may be one of the minority of libertarians here who really likes Lincoln
GODDAMMIT
Nothing to see here people, no need to rehash the entire Civil War...
"Even better, Spooner stamps!!"
To mock him?
True. Make them the old "must lick" variety. The glue should have the flavor of bitter, bitter irony.
If we're gonna force people to lick stamps, the stamps should have pictures of Anthony Comstock on the front. That's right, lick em nice and hard.
But then would the currency have to be backed by real estate?
Paul Krugman has to die before his visage graces the $ Trillion coin.
No love for Helicopter Ben?
...and in related news, the following bit of vomit just showed up on my derpbook:
Where do you even start with that. It's just feelz all the way down.
What exactly does that person think that a bank account is? A giant safe full of cash?
No, Playa. Everyone knows Social Security is the giant safe full of cash.
A bank account is a giant vault full of gold coins, in which the wealthy engage in their watersports.
God Dammit. Now I have the Ducktails song stuck in my head.
Life is like a hurricane...
I was hoping your link was to that particular mashup, and you did not disappoint.
A DuckTales reboot is coming to Disney next year.
Huey will declare xerself to be transgender.
How do you pronounce that? Cherself, like the last sound in "Loch"? Exerself? Zerself? I'm willing to call people whatever they want, but if they don't provide some guidance here they're just going to have to take what I give them.
+1 number one dime.
At least they're questioning just how much of an honor appearing on currency really is, even if the reason is moronic.
Hey, he saw Harry Potter, he knows what the inside of a bank looks like
I do not actually know the person who posted that, and glad for that. This showed up because a friend "liked" it. Yeah, I know...
Well, let's see.... People who accumulate wealth don't necessarily do so through the slave trade, and when you open a bank account the bank doesn't stack twenties in a dedicated box for you, and... Ah shit, never mind.
All money comes from the slavers yoke!! Yoke all you want, but soon you too will feelz the Bern. Comrade Bernie will free us all. He has personally freed hundreds by sneaking into Wall Street and liberating the oppressed!!
moarz:
It's all about the Tubmans, bra.
What does this mean??
These people are increasingly indistinguishable from parody.
"Where do you even start with that"
Based on her second post, preferably with a grammar lesson
I think it's a guy.
Irish is sexist too.
What's wrong with being sexy?
"Haunt the force of capitalism"? Yeah, because people in chains yearn for the abolition of private property and the inability to make their own choices without the approval of the government.
Only plantation owners use 20's or only they save them in Scrooge McDuck style money bins?
Where do you even start with that.
Let me recommend "unfollow" as a minimum remedy with the possibility of 'unfriend' in your back pocket.
I'd introduce them to the concept of inflation, for one thing. I mean, seriously, $20 gets you a hamburger, a beer, and a tip.
In some situations, just the tip.
I think this is an important message from our beloved government. People, we're going to continue to violate your civil rights and totally rob you blind, but we're going to put some images of colored folk on currency. Now be happy, you ungrateful peasants, before we lower the chocolate rations again!
+10 grams
Dude, the government never decreases the chocalate rations. Why just last week they increased it from 15 grams to 10 grams.
Good god, I hope no one actually gives a shit about this.
Especially when cake and Trump are in the headlines. Priorities, people!
$20 worth?
Oh, they do, Ham, they do. And symbolic gestures like this are ultimately harmless, unlike, say, calls for reparations.
Are you kidding? People are going to act like this is a fucking Major Milestone Game-Changer that justifies every bit of nagging and whining and moaning that the Social Justice types engage in. Even if they never actually advocated for such a thing. I fully expect facebook avatars to now have rainbow Tubmans for the next 3 months.
If it means we can stop talking about who gets to go poo in which bathroom, then I'm all for it.
you underestimate the cleverness of the SJW. The scene will shift to a trans person on some, shall we say, uncommon denomination.
I think Rainbow Tubmans will be my fantasy football team name this year
You mean besides Obama worshipping professional fake libertarians in D.C.?
This is the perfect time to start putting women and small animals (Oh Canada!) on our currency. The fact that the Fed is racing to devalue that currency is proof the patriarchy.
So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. "Give me five bees for a quarter," you'd say.
Never heard of her, but her face rings a bell...
...literally, it would appear.
/sarc
Lady Liberty is good enough for me.
Harriet Tubman was a lady who literally helped liberate people.
She also threatened to kill some if they didn't accept her assistance.
Give you liberty or give you death!
That's what I was going for!
^This. We could do far worse than her. I'd also like to see Crispus Attucks on a banknote.
Without looking it up I'm going to assume that's a wrestler in one of Jesse's Turkish oil wrestling videos.
-1 Boston Massacre...
Wait, "The Boston Massacre" could be a good wrestling nom d' guerre!
Just when I thought it wasn't possible for Hugh to further beclown himself.
Crispus Attucks: First person to be killed in Boston Massacre, probably first US casualty in the American War of Independence. His father was a slave and his mother a native American.
There aren't enough people named Crispus these days.
What about the guy who invented peanut butter? Carver was it?
"What about the guy who invented peanut butter? Carver was it?"
Nah, he was the guy that chopped up George Washington.
Boo!
Jimmy Carver wasn't a very good president.
+1 Patriarchy
She'd be better than any president, if you ask me. But I'd really rather not have any real people on the money. Lady Liberty was perfect.
This. At least then the only controversies would be how much cleavage to show. And her race. And... ah fuckit.
A Lady Liberty for every race! And, sure, every gender. Bearded Lady Liberty on the $50!
Since money isn't printed in full color, you can imagine Lady Liberty as whatever race you want.
I think all images of people on money should be replaced with random geometric shapes
Do like Hong Kong and put pictures of bank buildings on the money.
Lib headsplosions ahoy!
Animals! Only animals on the money!
Lynda Carter was perfecter
An immediate devaluation of the dollar to $0.79.
Winner.
"Other depictions of women and civil rights leaders will also be part of new currency designs."
+ 20 Oppression Dollars.
Since women only make 72 cents on the dollar, doesn't that mean this should be the $14.40 note? Or should it be the $27.78 note?
While Frederick Douglass is a better choice than Tubman, I suppose Tubman checks both the black and women boxes so poor Douglass is ignored.
"While Frederick Douglass is a better choice than Tubman, I suppose Tubman checks both the black and women boxes so poor Douglass is ignored."
Tubman was far more of a badass, if someone has to replace Jackson she'd be the better choice, in my opinion.
In order to be depicted on money, you have to go from being a real American person to being the subject of American fables. So Douglas is out.
The Reason progressives cheer again for Dear Leader Obama and fiat currency. Pathetic what this magazine has become. Jackson was a great President who stood firm for the people against the Bank of the US. Reason loves fiat currency and the wars and welfare state it supports. No wonder they hated Ron Paul.
No, Reason loves BitCoin which exorcises all faces from the currency.
See, this is what I mean when I say it's tough to tell the difference between sarcasm and legitimate retardation around here.
Pretty sure that's Tulpa, so...both?
This is illegitimate retardation.
The offspring of incestuous couplings do tend to be illegitimate.
Broke the three generations rule?
This is like his 50th dumbest post.
But who's keeping track?
Reason has been finding it hard not to jump on every lefty bandwagon that has "diversity" or "inclusion" painted on it.
Yes Reason has been enthusiastically supporting the crusades of college-aged SJWs for years here. Just non-stop praise for their efforts.
Fair point, but even some of their writing on that has been infected with SJW assumptions and shout-outs to the premises of the SJW lunacy.
Honestly, though, I think they are getting better about it.
It is just possible that they decided that it was a good thing all on their own.
Unless of course those people happened to be Indians or own businesses, then instead of standing tall it was more like shiving them in the back
Jackson also adopted an Indian kid, so I'm surprised Reactionary Moment doesn't attack him as a race traitor
The idea that commodity-backed currency would deliver us from evil is laughable. Bonds and taxes have been around a lot longer than fiat currency.
So I take it you didn't actually read Reason any of the three times Ron Paul ran for president?
So now that a woman is on money everything is good and all female issues are resolved right, so now can we get back to real issues like bashing Trump.
I want to see a cannabis leaf on currency. Next, a Gadsen flag. After that, the image of an AR-15, then a monocle, and last but not least, an orphan polishing a monocle. Libertarians, who are a significant minority are being excluded from whining to get our fair share of token gestures. I demand token gestures!
I want to see a cannabis leaf on currency. Next, a Gadsen flag. After that, the image of an AR-15, then a monocle, and last but not least, an orphan polishing a monocle.
So, leaving limited edition Messican-Asssechs dollars up to the Franklin Mint?
Yeah, that's collector edition shit right there.
*stands to applaud*
I liked it better when just men were the faces of our fucked monetary system
Yeah, I like your idea too. Let's get some side boob on the $1 bill.
as if the average dollar bill doesn't have enough body fluids caked on
Cake!
*triggered*
Cake triggers you? What sets it off, the trumpeting or the spoken-word-style rapping?
Cake!
*triggered*
This seems like a cycle that could perpetuate itself...
Don't worry, when the Donald takes office, first thing he's going to do, replace all currency to only picture the Donald. In fact, we're going to change the name of the dollar to 'The Donald'! The Chinese quiver in fear and hide behind the rocks! Make Murika great again!
"For a Fist Full of Donalds"
Also, why are there no gay folk or transgener folk on currency. I won't stand for it! Caitlyn Jenner on a dollar now!
How do we know there aren't.
Rich powerful men being into buggering boys was not exactly uncommon back then nor was it exactly illegal.
There is a difference between child molestation and homosexuality. A big difference. A difference which is well known and which inherently discredits anyone conflating the two.
Ah, outrage.
Except I am not conflating the two at all.
See the very concept of child molestation is an entirely modern one, back in the 1770's having sex with a 13 year old was considered perfectly normal and natural and while homosexual relations were not considered normal and natural they were not legally considered crimes by the governments of the day and among the aristocracy were merely viewed in the same way as we'd view BDSM today, ranging from at worst distasteful and a little off putting to titillating.
Combine that with the cultural expectations on men of power means that gays of the day would still have to marry and have children for dynastic purposes but would be free to pursue dalliances with men on the side as long as they were at least somewhat discreet about it.
I am in no way attempting to conflate homosexuality with child molesters I am merely recognizing the realities of the era we are discussing.
Not to mention those age-old rumors of President Buchanan actually being a closeted ghey.
Are you implying none of the people currently on our currency could identify as another gender if they so choose? Ugh, problematic
The fact is, none have done so. So it doesn't count. We're gonna get all outraged here! And nothing is gonna stop us!
J Edgar Hoover for the $3 bill?
Have you seen the wigs and gaiters that Washington pranced around in?
transgener folk
Call me old-fashioned, but I'll be dead in the cold, cold ground before I use a bill with a mutant's face on it.
Lincoln's on the $5.
[W]hy are there no gay folk or transgen[d]er folk on currency[?]
We actually don't know whether there are any gay people. Homosexuality was defined differently in previous times. There is legitimate question as to whether Lincoln had what would today be considered a gay relationship while in office. President James Buchanan (not on any currency, but could well be) was queer as a three-dollar bill. And there are a lot of people on US banknotes who are today relatively obscure; and that's just notes, not coins.
So, we should put Buchanan on something?
Not neccesarily. But better an actual US president than a bureaucrat like Daniel Manning or John Jay Knox, Jr. And I don't know where you draw the line and start putting heroes like Attucks on the bill ahead of lackluster presidents.
I'm mostly just making lame jokes. I don't really care. Given the choice, I wouldn't put real people on money at all.
No discussion of our currency should omit what has to be the greatest practical joke in history:
http://www.businessinsider.com.....age-2013-3
I'm reminded of how creepy that melon-headed humpback portrait of Hamilton is.
I know I'll break open a cold one in celebration!
You were going to do that anyway, you privileged CIS shitlord!
Damn! Busted again!
Harriet Tubman was a nice lady but she didn't do shit that was significant to the country at large. She rescued a few dozen slaves on the DELMARVA peninsula. That is great and a hell of a lot more good than I will ever do, but they are not putting me on the $20 bill. This is a SJW joke. It is not "good news". It is just another example of bullshit PC ignorance.
If they just have to have a black woman on the $20 bill, pick a black woman who did something of national significance, not some woman who played a small roll in a much larger thing.
Yet we all know her name and continue to honor and praise her.
Think that qualifies as "national significance."
I know what you're trying to do here, John. Aunt Jemima is not a real person, you racist!
SHE ISN'T??!!
Sorry Rufus. I know she's on a lot of your currency (syrup is currency in Canada right?), but it's just not legitimate.
Maple flavored syrup is not the same as maple syrup, eh?
"If they just have to have a black woman on the $20 bill, pick a black woman who did something of national significance, not some woman who played a small roll in a much larger thing."
I don't know if Condoleeza will go over too well.
That would be worth doing for the entertainment and butt hurt alone. And yeah, Rice was the first black woman to hold a cabinet position. That is a big fucking deal whatever you think of Rice.
I would be fine with Barbara Jordan, who I think was the first black woman in Congress being on it.
Neither did Roger Young. Would you be kvetching if they had put him on the bill?
They're going to name a starship after him.
+1 Shines the name
Will it have any troopers?
Aunt Jemimah?
she didn't do shit that was significant to the country at large
I'm not sure why that should be the standard. She's well known and fought against something that everyone can agree about. I think being fairly non-controversial is a good criterion.
If I were in charge, I wouldn't put any real people on any money, so that may skew my opinion in favor of less politically significant people.
If we have to put people on our currency, I would at least change them up more than once every hundred years or so.
Well, a gun-carrying Republican is replacing a slave-owning Democrat, so not sure who the joke's on.
I still say they should reissue the $500 bill, and put Harriet Tubman's portrait on that.
"In my opinion it is a mistake for the government not to issue the larger demoninations ($500, $1,000, $5,000, $10,000) that are authorized by law." - Milton Friedman.
Why do you hate the children?
I have to take the side of the adults those children will grow up to be.
Damn it... but... the irony value of a guy opposed to paper money BEING ON PAPER MONEY!!
Well... at least we still have anti-central bank Jefferson on the $2.
Fuck people. I want currency with pictures of handguns on all denominations.
Hell, make them exclusively federal/state agent issued handguns, so it can have that "things we do together" feel to it.
Tubman is the real deal unlike the bill...
You can take my Jacksons from my cold dead fingers
Done.
Would you prefer I place two bullets in your chest and one in your head or the other way around?
I find myself unable to care.
Pretty much. If it works for buying stuff, it's all good. Just as long as the portrait is better than those awful president dollar coins.
I wasn't allowed to pay my rent in cash at one of my apartments a few years back. I guess 'all debts public and private' is bullshit after all.
Corporation legitimately counter-sues progressive idiot, tide slowly turning on political correctness insanity, meh.
New face on fiat currency to appease progressive whiners, hooray!
Is there some big joke I'm not in on here?
It's called life
What is this referring to?
The "fag" cake thing, I think.
Yep.
Part of it is that Reason writers have their own opinions on various issues and aren't rigidly held to some party line, particularly in blog posts.
Why have people on money anyway?
Just keep it fucking simple. Instead we have to jack it up with all sorts of fallible humans and then spend futile energy wondering and debating who should have been chosen.
F-that.
Put Towelie on it for all I care. At least it'll shot the country has a sense of humor.
show.
Or Fusili Jerry.
Or Bat-Man.
Or an undertaker.
Or Troy McClure.
Or...
The selection of Harriet Tubman isn't great news ... unless you think it-could-be-worse news is great news.
It is ironic that, in the midst of a multi-decade War on Terror against violent religious zealots, the US decides to honor a religious nut who advocated and gave material support to terrorists.
Harriet Tubman was a religious nut who had visions and fits that she believed were her own personal revelations from God Almighty. She also advocated and gave material support to John Brown, who was first and foremost a batshit-crazy terrorist.
The batshit-craziness and terroristic methods of Tubman and Brown are, of course, somewhat offset by the fact that their cause was abolitionism.
That settles it, John Brown for the $1 to replace the awful slaveowner.
Really, history has no place in politics. It's not that shocking.
I don't think any change to the appearance of money could possibly rise to the level of great news. Jackson's been on there a long time (and he was a piece of shit). Might as well change it up. They could put a bucket of manure on there for all I care.
Jackson was a horrible human being. Also, he opposed central banking.
On the plus side, he also enjoyed married women and hated Henry Clay.
Don't we all?
That's why I'm for Attucks. Very little is known about him other than he was killed by the British. But Tubman gets the three-fer: slave, black, woman. Attucks only gets one victim point (black). Unknown if he was a slave or free.
Harriet Tubman was a religious nut who had visions and fits that she believed were her own personal revelations from God Almighty.
Those "fits" were seizures most likely resulting from a documented severe head trauma injury she received as a child. That was probably also responsible for her religious "visions."
Ironic that so many drug transactions are conducted with a $20 bill.
By the time I get done using those 20s she'll be white.
What slang will be used?
I'll give you a Tubs for that?
That pizza costs a fucking Tubby?
Something something euphemisms.
I've got a chubby, I'll give you a tubby for a tuggy.
How many niggars will it be?
What? Was that bad?
Oh, you went there.
I have immunity.
You guys were going there and floating it around so don't get huffy.
Stop being niggardly with your Tubs, Rufus.
You Northerners...
Can't we all just agree to put Donald Trump on all denominations of currency?
Which picture are they going to use? How about they use Rhianna's face but we'll agree that it represents Tubman.
I foresee an article that suggests this is a phyrric victory, because unseating Jackson was "inevitable" and that the real goal was not mere-recognition of some token PoC-female, so much as *undermining the CisHeteroCapitalist Pantheon*, of which Hamilton was a key figure...
IOW, the point is not to "advance the interests of the marginalized" so much as to unseat figures like Hamilton as government role-models - i.e. someone who seemed to actually understand how money worked, and is therefore an enemy.
Well, we have, er...Broadway, of all places...to thank for educating the public on Hamilton, I guess...
I would prefer if we just went back to having pictures of Liberty on our money (ironically, of course) or, failing that, animals of North America.
I nominate the short-tailed weasel.
John is correct: she's simply not important enough to put on a bill. No black woman, or even woman, is. Sorry, but this is all PC revisionist bullshit.
And our money will get uglier. Gee, thanks.
Why is importance so, um, important?
I think they should just select a random person from a photo they find on the internet and put their face on the 20. Or go back to using allegorical representations of liberty on more money.
Yeah, the "importance" argument is just silly. I would prefer if we just put animals and landmarks on the money, but I'll take a woman who freed slaves over a douchebag politician anyday.
The EU put fake/generic landmarks on theirs, to avoid arguments about whose landmark was on what denomination. LOL
Because propaganda is important.
The left understands that, which is why they never miss an opportunity to capture university departments, take over newsrooms, monopolize wikipedia, or do anything else that will further their cause incrementally. How many right-wingers are out there pushing to get Ronald Reagan or TJ on a bank note in common use?
Nobody's stopping anyone from using $2 bills.
A victim of cash register drawers and the failure of $1 coins.
Zeb: I am totally in favor of allegorical portrayals of Liberty. Some of our most beautiful currency and coins had them.
I say we need more weird-ass Masonic symbols and cryptic nonsense that makes conspiracy theorists spend hours analyzing!!
We should probably just be thankful that they're not going with Huey Newton or Elijah Muhammad or Saul Alinsky or Che Guevara or someone of that ilk.
And more expensive. All that extra ink!
/Irish
Tubman is a fine choice. But we are talking money here. The _only_ appropriate choice would be Ayn Rand a socialism abolitionist legend who led hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of thought-slaves to freedom over the course of her life and beyond.
I'm just saying - The Valkyrie of Value, The Capo of Capitalism, The Matron of Money, beeyotches.
They could print the money speech on the back. Parts of it, anyway.
I would still pick Jackson over Tubman in a fight.
In the end, since the money has to be socialized (we can't float our own anymore, has to be backed by government Force and nothing else) there shouldn't be pictures of anybody on it.
I am outraged. Surely there were better choices than a dead cis fundamentalist Christian who, like Edward Snowden, didn't even have a college degree.
Why the disrespect for lesbian agnostic victims of gun violence who represent the struggle for racial equality, fedgov?
Knarf, you are othering the transgendered atheists who have sacrificed so much for climate change as a way to promote racial equality?
Now you're just letting the perfect be the enemy of the good.
I heard Irish is switching to Kruggerands.
Irish will now conduct all of his economic transactions exclusively in two-dollar bills.
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"Also, why are there no gay folk or transgener folk on currency. I won't stand for it! Caitlyn Jenner on a dollar now!"
Are you proposing a $3 bill?
How about a honey badger on the $5 bill?
Oooh, or a beaver!
All of our money should have pictures of beavers!
I'm so over the PC shit, I'd put Robert E. Lee on the $20 bill if I could.
Fuck Harriet Tubman.
You don't get your picture on the money if you lose.
Lee didn't lose. He was just too much of a gentleman to win.
Regardless, maybe they should put some other racist on the 20.
Maybe John Rocker.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Rocker #Controversial_statements
How 'bout that? He's a testament to our tolerance for free speech.
Maybe they should put that asshole, Larry Flynt, on the 20? He must have said something racist at some point.
Except that Burr won...
The new twenty is an example to the youth of the nation :
" carrying a drug to use on a baby if its crying might put the fugitives in danger. Tubman even carried a gun which she used to threaten the fugitives if they became too tired or decided to turn back...
On one occasion, she overheard some men reading her wanted poster, which stated that she was illiterate. She promptly pulled out a book and feigned reading it "
How times have changed. When I was in high school, college and law school, Hamilton was treated as the evil Richard Nixon of the revolutionary era who was in bed with the banks and the Big Corporations. Never mind that Big Corporations did not yet exist. Jackson, on the other hand, was portrayed as the peoples' representative who defended the oppressed against the Evil Wealthy. Arthur Schlesinger described Jackson has a veritable 19th century New Dealer. Now Hamilton is the hero and Jackson is the villain. Maybe if someone wrote a musical about Jackson?
Arthur Schlesinger described Jackson has a veritable 19th century New Dealer. Now ... Jackson is the villain.
Then there's hope that FDR will be recognized for the piece of shit he was.
I'm still for replacing "In God We Trust" with "Fear is the Mind-Killer".
"reality is an illusion "
I've always thought that they should just put large on the currency and leave people off. But Tubman works too.
This seems like a much better outcome than the Hamilton-ouster Treasury toyed with last summer.
Why? Because Hamilton is now a leftie icon (ironic I know) we should ignore if he had any faults too.
Notice, the Obama Administration is piling all the shit it can onto us on their way out the door.
The last few days of the Administration are going to be crap shoot. Remember when Bubba Clinton started pardoning all his important donors on the way out the door?
The closer we get to Obama leaving, the worse it's gonna get. Especially after the election is over. It's gonna be one hell of a progressive December this year!
How come there aren't any Latinos on the money?
And how come none of you gringos thought about that?
I nominate Charo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaWi5iWsysg
Ironic that the 20 dollar federal reserve note had Jackson on it considering one of his many quotes "the bank, Mr Van Buren, is trying to kill me, but I will kill it". And he did but it seems to have risen again. Gives new meaning to the term "zombie banks".
This is the most convoluted story I have ever read...I'll try again when I get more time. I thought Hamilton was the big proponent of a federal bank....so is he on or off the bill? Can't tell.
Dude that makes no sense at all to me man. WOw.
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I fully expect these notes to be fucked up on first issue and still contain the Jackson watermark.
As long as we're messing with the currency, since he's done so much for LGBT rights how about a $3 bill with Obama's portrait?
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"Update 2: Tubman will replace Jackson on the front of the $20, but Jackson will remain on the back."
One could look at this as Tubman owning Jackson on the new bill. Irony.
So it looks like it's not Caitlyn Jenner, then. Who's going on the $21 bill?
Doesn't make the money more valuable. Jack Lew works for the people who depreciate our money. Is this really important. Don't we all want "Franklins" short of having wire transfers to off shore accounts?
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Why not copy Europe in this case and put non human subjects on money? American animals, plants, natural wonders, buildings?
Keep the joke from RC Dean's link above rolling and just go with a thimble, a top hat, a shoe, a wheel barrow, terrier...
Maybe even let the mask slip a little and go with the game pieces from Clue.
Jackson fought against a federally controlled central bank. He and his protege, James Polk, kept our currency honest into the twentieth century when the Federal Reserve Act doomed it. Removing his face from our money reinforces the fact that we no longer have, or care to have, honest currency.
Well said. But fiscal responsibility and economic stability through rule of law have long since been removed from the president's list of duties.
What is more ridiculous about this is that a playwright was able to lobby the treasury secretary to protect her ticket sales. That is some funny shit.
This is yet another pointless accomplishment of that imbecilic Marxists POS that morons elected.
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I think Nathan Hale would be a good choice.
Makes sense,get rid of the guy who killed the Fed keep the guy who demanded it.
Tubman was a gun toting, freedom loving lady. Understood her times and fought hard. Is that still PC? Or PC enough for today's PCers?
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Oh, we already have that. It's Woodrow Wilson, who happens to be on the $100,000 bill. I can't say I've been hoping for the day when we'd be commonly using that bill the way we use $20 bill today, but when that day comes, we'll have the right man for that currency!
(Having said that, we'll need Obama, George W. Bush, Clinton, Carter, and Nixon for larger bills. There's no shortage of politicians who can be this symbol!)