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Eating Red Meat, Cheese, Butter, Pork and Cream Is Not a Death Sentence After All

Review of saturated fat studies "do not provide support for the traditional diet heart hypothesis."

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The BMJ (fomerly the British Medical Journal) is publishing a terrfic new study that mines 40-year old data about the effects of eating saturated fats on mortality and heart disease rates. The research was a double blinded, parallel group, randomized controlled dietary intervention trial done in Minnesota in the late 1960s and early 1970s in which 9,000 participants were fed either diets that contained saturated fats (meat, milk, cheese) or diets with polyunsaturated fats (corn oil chiefly). The participants were more than 9,000 men and women over age 20 admitted to either a nursing home or  one of six state mental hospitals in Minnesota. The experiment lasted from 41 to 56 months. The researchers were seeking to find out what effects a diet low un saturated fats would have on cholesterol levels, heart disease, and overall mortality.

Eating plant-based oils did reduce cholesterol levels in participants assigned to that diet. While original researchers back in the 1970s did not find any effect on heart disease trends, they believed that had their experiment gone on that the benefits from lowering cholesterol would have eventually emerged. The results of the study were never fully published, although the researchers reported some of their preliminary results at a American Heart Association conference 1975.

So why were the results of a such rigorous study not published widely? The BMJ study also cites biostatistician Steven Broste, who used the Minnesota data in his master's thesis back in 1981, which found no significant difference in mortality rates in the saturated fats versus unsaturated fats cohorts. According to the Washington Post, Broste suggests …

…that at least part of the reason for the incomplete publication of the data might have been human nature. The Minnesota investigators had a theory that they believed in — that reducing blood cholesterol would make people healthier. Indeed, the idea was widespread and would soon be adopted by the federal government in the first dietary recommendations. So when the data they collected from the mental patients conflicted with this theory, the scientists may have been reluctant to believe what their experiment had turned up.

"The results flew in the face of what people believed at the time," said Broste. "Everyone thought cholesterol was the culprit. This theory was so widely held and so firmly believed — and then it wasn't borne out by the data. The question then became: Was it a bad theory? Or was it bad data? … My perception was they were hung up trying to understand the results."

The BMJ data recovery and reanalysis now finds that the vegetable oil diet did lower cholesterol, but did not lower mortality or heart disease rates. In fact, for participants over age 65, lower cholesterol led to higher, rather than lower risks of death. In addition, the BMJ researchers comprehensively reviewed other controlled trials and report that they "do not provide support for the traditional diet heart hypothesis."

The BMJ study is another in a growing line of research* that undermines the "heart-healthy" dietary guidelines from the federal government and that American Heart Association. The AHA still warns:

There's a lot of conflicting information about saturated fats. Should I eat them or not? The American Heart Association recommends limiting saturated fats – which are found in butter, cheese, red meat and other animal-based foods. Decades of sound science has proven it can raise your "bad" cholesterol and put you at higher risk for heart disease.

The more important thing to remember is the overall dietary picture. Saturated fats are just one piece of the puzzle. In general, you can't go wrong eating more fruits, vegetables, whole grains and fewer calories. 

When you hear about the latest "diet of the day" or a new or odd-sounding theory about food, consider the source. The American Heart Association makes dietary recommendations only after carefully considering the latest scientific evidence.

There is less and less conflicting evidence, so perhaps a careful reconsideration is in order. See Reason TV's "How the Government Makes You Fat: Gary Taubes on Obesity, Carbs, and Bad Science."

*See my February 2015 item, "The Red Meat, Eggs, Fat and Salt Diet" for links to several relevant studies.

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  1. Well, good. This confirms my bias that eating meat must be good, so I believe it.

    1. Ron: “Christopher. Got a second?”
      Chris: “Oh, hey Ron.”
      Ron: “Listen, I’ve eaten a commissary hamburger for lunch every day for twelve years. I just wanna make sure this pointless health crusade won’t effect the only part of my job that I like.”
      Chris: “Oh no, those hamburgers are gone. Red meat can cause sluggishness, heart disease, even impotence.”
      Ron: “Has the opposite effect on me.”
      Chris: “You ever tried a turkey burger?”
      Ron: “Is that a fried turkey leg inside a grilled hamburger? If so, yes. Delicious.”
      Chris: “A turkey burger. You take lean ground turkey meat. You make that into a burger instead of red meat.”
      Ron: “Why would anyone do that to themselves?”
      Chris: “What if I told you that I could make a turkey burger that tastes better than any other burger you’ve had.”
      Ron: “Challenge accepted. Cook-off late today in the courtyard. If I win hamburgers remain in the commissary.”
      Chris: “What do I get if I win?”
      Ron: “The rarest jewel of all. Victory over me, Ron Swanson.”

      1. Damn, the end of that series was heartbreaking.

    2. This article is one super nice treatment of these mendacious fucks. A true scientist would throw out his theory in the face of a single, verified, repeated counter example.

      One brown cow damnit. But know, they perpetuate this quackery and have ended up causing an explosion of Type II diabeetus and fat people. They should all be forced to live off of white bread and bran muffins.

      1. Agreed. I just had to get my joke in there.

        1. Ya know, Ron’s Alt Text should be “Throwing red meat to the commentariat.”

          works on so many levels.

    3. Dr. Melik: This morning for breakfast he requested something called “wheat germ, organic honey and tiger’s milk.”
      Dr. Aragon: [chuckling] Oh, yes. Those are the charmed substances that some years ago were thought to contain life-preserving properties.
      Dr. Melik: You mean there was no deep fat? No steak or cream pies or… hot fudge?
      Dr. Aragon: Those were thought to be unhealthy… precisely the opposite of what we now know to be true.
      Dr. Melik: Incredible.

      1. Man, you must be old. I watched this with my nearly 30 year old daughter, and when they showed the pic of Cosell, she had no clue who that was.

        1. Unlike my generation, kids these days have almost no knowledge of anything that’s more than a few years old.

          That movie came out when I was 4 years old but I saw it a bunch of times on TV growing up.

          1. I have a bunch of young (30-ish) degreed scientists working for me. Here’s some things they never heard of:

            George Orwell
            Patty Hearst
            Jimi Hendrix
            Barry Goldwater
            Desi Arnaz.

            When I asked one of them if he knew 1984, he responded, “I wouldn’t know about that, I was born in 1987.”

            1. OK, I can see them not being familiar with the others. But I thought Orwell was still required reading. We are so fucked.

          2. To this point, I think a lot of has to do with the death of re-runs. We have 6 Quintilian channels and Tivo sooo….no reruns unless you are looking for them.

            1. Oh definitely. I didn’t grow up watching Gillgan’s Island by choice.

              1. “Those poor people.”
                – Mathezar

  2. Mmmmm….steak.

    When is steak & cunning linguistics day, anyway?

    1. Cunning linguistics day…thank you for that.

      1. It is impossible not to love Kristen. I am beginning to suspect she may be my wife commenting here without me knowing.

        *I ended up in the dog house once because on our long vacation drive I snacked on salted sunflower seeds the whole way. After three hours of that the end of my tongue was sore as hell and useless for three days. She won’t let me have sunflower seeds anymore.

        1. That’s a good one. I laughed!

    2. As far as I’m concerned, it should be every day, just like Steak and Blowjob day.

      Really, though, you should pick a different meat. We had steak first. Pork ribs is acceptable.

      1. She’s going for no bones.

      2. Really, though, you should pick a different meat. We had steak first.

        Inexpensively opulent, consumable, and targeted to women? I’d go with cunning linguists and a box of wine day.

  3. I’ve been sayin’ this every morning as I consume a plate of bacon and eggs.

    Mmm…bacon.

  4. When saving bacon drippings, it’s important to remember that best practices call for two containers. One to fill, one to use. Inventory rotation, because that’s how we roll.

    Quality practices make quality product.

    1. How do you ever fill 2 containers?

    2. I can’t keep mine. The wife swoops it up immediately and dribbles it over the dogs food.

      Yes, she has created monsters.

      1. Bacon fat is nice but us real men (read Scotsmen) smoke and roast our own pork belly. My dry rub mixture and two hours of pecan + apple wood smoke then 3 hours in the oven (if you have the wood and patience the smoker works too) yields meat the angels would rebel against god over. And it is fucking cheap 2.69 a pound. Take that, cut into cubes, slices, or slabs and put in cast iron skillet…the pork fat from that is orgasmic.

        1. You owe me a new keyboard. This one is suddenly all drooly and stuff.

          1. The real breakthrough was the pecan with the apple wood. I used to just do one type of wood, settled on apple. Then ran out or apple half way though and chose hickory for the rest…this got the old creative juices flowing. Next thing you know I found pecan + apple was DA BOMB!

            Wife makes me smoke like three over a weekend…we have 1/2 of one left by monday.

            (once it rests about 30 minutes my QC test results in half a slab being eaten on the spot)

            1. Hickory is great for pork – especially mocker nut or pig nut – but honest-to-God native pecan is really special. Gives the meat an almost sweet, nutty flavor – most noticeable in the fat.

              I’ve never had any apple wood to use for cooking, though I’ve heard it’s good for fish like salmon. I can imagine it would be fine for pork as well, but both pecan and apple? Couldn’t you just eat the meat with apple sauce or fried apples?

        2. A couple weeks ago I smoked my first pork belly as an experiment in making bacon at home.

          Store bought bacon is now banished from my home. It doesn’t even come close.

          If more people knew how easy it was to make damn good bacon at home, Oscar Mayer would be in trouble.

          1. I don;t cure so mine isnt technically bacon. But yeah…WAY BETTER.

            1. Ya, no pink salt here either.

              Technical or not I’m calling it bacon.

          2. My method was pretty basic.
            Salt, coarse black pepper, Brown sugar rub
            Stash in bags in the fridge flipping the bags once a day for 3-5 days (depending on how salty you like it)
            Rinse, pat dry and stash in the fridge uncovered for ~24 hours
            Smoke at 200 with hickory until it reaches between 150 and 160F.

        3. a) What’s your procedure?

          b) How smoky does it make the kitchen? Will I need to remove the smoke detectors in the rooms next to the kitchen?

          1. Dry Rub (i like a lot of cayenne and I don’t cure so no brown sugar) for up to 6 hours. I usually do it the morning of. MAKE SURE THE SKIN IS SUPER DUPER DRY…I will usually just pour salt on the skin (not the meat, that is the rub) and let it leach out as much water as possible. If skin not dry you get leather. Then get smoker going…no smoking in house. Real smoker. Outside. Pisses off neighbors. Top rack, temp is 225 right under the meat. (I use a neat trick for this. I build a good fire and on the lower rack I put 4-6 chicken thighs. This protects the pork from high heat AND make one hell of a great snack.) Smoke for two hours. Then into 225 oven, on sheet tray with sides or roasting pan (sheet tray is better, we don’t want to steam the meat). let rest 30 min, pour sheet tray drippings through strainer into ramekin. Lick sheet tray. Take off clothes and roll on top of rested pork belly.

            That last part is optional.

      2. The wife swoops it up immediately and dribbles it over the dogs food.

        My husband claims that’s grounds for divorce.

    3. you can clean it up by extracting it against water…. the resulting clean fat still has all the wonderful smell but not as much salt of crud. it’s the perfect grease for every occassion…. excellent handlotion too!

  5. (begins gorging upon platter of petit brie de chevre and charcuterie)

    1. Shut up, Tulpa.

      1. Wait, just because I love triple cream and cured meats I lost Tulpa-tag?

        1. JW says we’re supposed to be using it to check our privilege. Also, you haven’t gotten to play yet and it’d be a shame if we left people out.

          1. I did? [checks notes….]

            Uh, yes? I did….

            1. I might have confused you with someone else, but since we’re all Episiarch, I’ll just buy myself a beer to make amends next time I’m out.

              1. That explains why I was at your mom’s place last night. That had me confused.

                1. Wait, that was Hamster’s mom we were running a train with? You told me it was Epi’s.

                  MONSTER.

                  1. I thought it was my mom we were — oh, gross.

          2. Well, if there ever was such a thing as privilege, the unfettered ability to consume all the delicious meats and cheeses is it.

            (proudly wears Tulpa moniker whilst wiping capicola grease from beard)

            1. I’ll have to settle for the bo ssam currently wafting the aroma of cured, fatty pork through my house.

              Woe!

              Do tell about the charcuterie.

              1. Bring me all your sopressata and prosciutto de parma!

                http://files.shandymedia.com/s…..-cover.jpg

                1. Yeah, I try to hide the greens the same way. “Oh, look, it’s just a delicate sprinkle. See, you’ll hardly even notice it, and doesn’t their healthful green really brighten up the plate?”

                  My kids don’t buy it.

                2. Prosciutto for lunch completely salvaged an otherwise shitty day yesterday.

              1. The beard IS getting rather aggressive.

                I keep telling her it’s just a role and not to take it so personally.

                1. The beard IS getting rather aggressive.

                  *raises eyebrows*

  6. Right on time…70 years fucking late. As usual.

  7. There was an English scientist name John Yudkin who debunked the claims about fat back in the early 1970s. His reward for being right was having his career ruined.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/lif…..sugar.html

    1. The science was settled so he was obviously in the pocket of Big Fat.

      1. It was just a one time thing. It would never happen in other ares of science. Right?

        1. I am constantly assured I should ignore all those years of laboratory training and just believe my betters. I guess I technically do. I believe Nobel laureate Richard Feynman. “In science, we must not fool ourselves, and we are the easiest to fool.”

          Were I to be God Emperor for a year, every college science class down to Rocks for Jocks would begin each semester with a mandatory reading and discussion of the CalTech Commencement Speech “Cargo Cult Science”

          1. My wife works in research. The entire thing is driven by money and almost never subject to real review.

            1. Wasn’t there an article a few months back detailing how little modern research – highly touted at its unveiling (often to support a particular political bent) – could have its results duplicated?

              1. Yes there was. Let me give you an example. My wife works for a dean of research. One of her jobs is to check out the publication records of applicants to the institution. The databases that show a person’s publication record don’t show retractions. So a guy could have had to later retract half his research or all of it and you would never know by looking at the publication databases.

              2. Most of that was in “science” as opposed to science. Social science is a 50% lie just in the name.

      2. For some reason, Big Fat makes me think of a Dick Tracy villain.

        1. It makes me think about my dream girl.

          1. Makes me think about Hawaii Five O.

  8. “Eating Red Meat, Cheese, Butter, Pork and Cream Is Not a Death Sentence After All”

    Science finally caught up with a few millennia of human evolution and experience.

    Yay Science! That’s why #iprocreatinglylovescience.

  9. Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong. Whole grains, light beer and a lot of Diet Coke are how a person stays lean.

    1. Exposed: crusty is actually Nathan Pritikin. It all makes sense.

    2. Whole grains, light beer and a lot of Diet Coke are how a person stays lean.

      Or in my case, whatever I feel like eating.

  10. Seen printed on a stand-up card on a hospital cafeteria table: Studies suggest that consumption of fats may increase the chances of heart disease

    Me – “What a crock of shit that is. Suggest may increase chances. Isnt that the same thing as saying it doesnt ?

    Lunchmate – “Why do you think you know more than doctors?”

    Me – “Enjoy your lunch” *bites into bacon cheese burger*

    1. Considering that organic chemistry is a weed out class for pre-med and a warmup class for my educational track, yes. More seriously, while any doctor can get up to speed much more rapidly than an untrained amateur at metabolism and nutrition doesn’t make them expert in any way at those subjects unless they happen to read current literature in the field regularly. In this particular case, depending on which journals they read, it might make them less well informed.

      1. Possibly less informed than dieticians, which is difficult to accomplish.

        1. Watch it, now. My wife is spending my hard earned money to gain entry to that guild. It only took me two years to convince her that Gary Taubes’ work was a better documented literature search than any of her profs had ever done.

          1. his biblio is impressive…dude likes to read boring shit.

          2. Ask her why so many of her colleagues are obese!

            One of my best friends is an RD (and a fitness fanatic). We generally avoid diet discussions…

    2. I’ve learned its not worth it to get into a discussion of facts or science with feelzy hospital people trying to ban vaping or pushing low-fat diets or whatever.

      This, however, will get a response:

      Lunchmate – “Why do you think you know more than doctors?”

      “Because I know a lot of doctors, and guess what? They are almost like people, with all the virtues and flaws that regular people have.”*

      *This is pretty much a verbatim quote from a conversation I had with our Chief Medical Officer. He laughed.

  11. A chink in the armor of “settled science;” makes me wait in anticipation of the next pillory.

    1. A chink

      Racist.

  12. You know, if I were conspiracy-minded, I might wonder about the whole food pyramid. The entire diet looks increasingly like it is unhealthy – eat lots of starch, sugary fruits and vegetables and consume meat and dairy sparingly – almost the opposite of what it looks like people should do. On the other hand, it’s certainly a cheap way to feed a public on subsistence levels.

    1. Death by Food Pyramid: How Shoddy Science, Sketchy Politics and Shady Special Interests Have Ruined Our Health

      It’s actually worse than you think.

      Terrific book, though – highly recommended.

      1. So, the government has been telling us all how to stay healthy, and yet we have an “obesity epidemic.”

        Funny, that.

        1. The obesity epidemic is a plot by the manufacturers of those electric carts you see at grocery stores.

    2. On the other hand, it’s certainly a cheap way to feed a public on subsistence levels.

      Not even that, because it was adopted at a point in time where worrying about keeping the public fed was fast receding.

      Nope, its straight up cronyism, flogging the economic interest of the corporate-farming interests.

    3. On the other hand, it’s certainly a cheap way to feed a public on subsistence levels.

      Oh, you noticed that, too, did you? Way back in the early 70’s – when the “macro-biotic” diet and vegetarianism, etc. began to be all fashionable among various celebrities in the entertainment industry ( John Lennon and his wife Yoko come immediately to mind,) and others on the left – it occurred to me that maybe someone was working at getting Americans ready to accept the noble starvation diets of various third world peasants. Underfed people seem much easier to rule, keeping in mind the old saw about freedom and rights meaning little to someone with an empty belly.

  13. Shocked, I am!

    Oops…everything we told you is wrong. Double oops…we likely hurt you in the process.

    Fuck these people. May they all rot in hell.

    1. I have this overwhelming urge to ignore any recommendation from Top Men. I can’t explain it.

      The thing is, is that “science” is *supposed* to be wrong, frequently, so we can learn what works and what doesn’t. But, the academic power-hungry and slimy pols subverted that process for their own gains. Whodathunkit?

      1. I’m the same way. Any new fact or finding I hear is immediately suspect. I’ve been lied to so many times that my first question is “who benefits.”

  14. OT: what is with the suspicious lack of witty alt text today? I am on to you people.

  15. So, I don’t have to stop deep frying bacon-wrapped cheese?

    1. You only use lard. Correct?

  16. I don’t believe this anymore than the Heart Association.

    Just about every really old person interviewed gave “everything in moderation” as their lifestyle. I’ll follow their lead. I’m more likely to die in a motorcycle accident than old age anyway. So I’ll eat what I want in moderation until then.

  17. WTF is wrong with you people?!?!? Why am I the first one to post a link to the most germane moment in cinema history to this topic?!?

    Woody Allen’s Sleeper – Health Food in the 22nd century.

    Dr. Melik: This morning for breakfast he requested something called “wheat germ, organic honey and tiger’s milk.”
    Dr. Aragon: [chuckling] Oh, yes. Those are the charmed substances that some years ago were thought to contain life-preserving properties.
    Dr. Melik: You mean there was no deep fat? No steak or cream pies or… hot fudge?
    Dr. Aragon: Those were thought to be unhealthy… precisely the opposite of what we now know to be true.
    Dr. Melik: Incredible.

    1. Its Woody Allen’s world.

    2. But I posted mine higher 😛

    3. GeH4? Is it really even edible?

    4. I shared this article on my Facebook page, and minutes later, one of my FB friends had added a comment saying, simply, “Sleeper.”

  18. The death rate is now, will always be, and ever has been 1:1. You cannot avoid death regardless of your diet you can only trade pleasure now for time at the end.

    I think it is as disingenuous for us to blame bad government science for our bellies as it is for government to blame food processing companies. I personally am fat because I eat too much and exercise too little. I know this because whenever I eat less and exercise more I get less fat. Own your belly!

    1. whenever I eat less and exercise more I get less fat

      I’ll take your word for it.

    2. The death rate is now, will always be, and ever has been 1:1.

      Well, I suppose that is one way to look at it. But not a terribly useful or informative one.

      1. I think it’s about as informative as contradictory and untested assertions about miracle diets.

        1. True. But it’s also completely irrelevant as no diet claims to give you eternal life.

          1. I will try to keep all humor relevant in future. Although this search indicates that some diets seem to be claiming exactly that.

    3. Something like 1 in 15 humans who have ever lived are alive now. That’s 7% of your population the jury is out on.

      1. True, but I am willing to believe that past performance is indicative of future results in this case.

  19. From Woody Allen’s Sleeper:

    Dr. Melik: This morning for breakfast he requested something called “wheat germ, organic honey and tiger’s milk.”
    Dr. Aragon: [chuckling] Oh, yes. Those are the charmed substances that some years ago were thought to contain life-preserving properties.
    Dr. Melik: You mean there was no deep fat? No steak or cream pies or… hot fudge?
    Dr. Aragon: Those were thought to be unhealthy… precisely the opposite of what we now know to be true.
    Dr. Melik: Incredible.

  20. NO FUCKING SHIT

    I eat a half-dozen eggs and I try to get in two pounds of red meat every day. My bloodwork is spectacular. My 150-something cholesterol and negligible triglycerides almost made up for the extra the life insurance charged me for having the BMI of a walking heart attack. Fuck you, #thinprivilege.

    1. Could be worse, my brother-in-law pays an absurd premium for being underweight…

      1. Ugh. I hate Smalls.

        1. I could survive on your carcass for weeks. Just keep that in mind.

          1. Just promise me you’ll pack my legs in salt, raw, and wait a couple years for them to be ready. Jamon wartico is delicious.

            1. How does jamon wartico compare to nicole’s hobosciutto

              That thread was an almost perfect storm of the old ones.

    2. Yeah but how do we know your results translate to our species?

      1. I’ve reproduced with a human female, I’ll have you know. We’ll have to wait a while to see if my offspring is viable, but for now, we can probably assume I fit in the Close Enough category.

        1. Hell, we’ll have to wait to see if your offspring is * human *

          /kidding

          1. Don’t make me spam this place with toddler pictures.

              1. Don’t ruin this for OMWC, CJ.

        2. Horses and mules can reproduce too. Get back to use when we know if your offspring are sterile.

          1. They mature within six weeks I believe. And then consume their host. Then we will know for sure.

          2. Horses and donkeys.

            1. ^ this, mules are sterile.

    3. Have you told your doctor what your diet is? I’d pay to see his reaction.

      1. I haven’t been to a doctor in years, which is something I really ought to fix. You’re right, the reaction should be great.

        1. My doctor would put you on his next book. This is the same doctor who said bacon every day is fine and if you MUST drink then drink vodka.

          1. Would he let me do my best Arnold pose on the cover?

            1. Most Muscular? Sure prolly.

              1. ps. I always hated that pose. But my friend who place in the Northern CO Bodybuilding competition likes it and says it gives the judges the ability to see several muscle groups otherwise obscured.

                Besides, aren’t you a hairy power/weight lifter? You need abs to do a BB pose.

                1. 🙁 🙁 🙁

        2. You’re right, the reaction should be great.

          Assuming you’re not trying to address trauma while he’s trying to address your BMI.

          We aren’t twins by any means, but our BMI and blood chemistry values probably aren’t all that different. I went in to the doctor’s office for a headache issue a while back and pushing past the BMI issue to actually get my headache issue addressed wasn’t… the customer-friendliest. I can only imagine it having been a nightmare if I actually had a more acute problem.

      2. me three.

  21. I always love having my fat in-laws telling me I’m ripe for a heart attack because of all the meat I eat. Meanwhile they are gorging on pasta, bread, and cake. And go back for second helpings every time.

    1. Type II Diabeetus don’t live in carnivores.

  22. I thought the science was settled.

  23. I’ve often wondered if it’s a coincidence that not eating fat and recycling caught on at the same time. Both are essentially religious sacraments with negligible-to-harmful effects on what they’re supposed to be doing. My suspicion is that there is a huge segment of the population that abandoned traditional religion around that time but didn’t at all want to abandon superstition. Asceticism is attractive to a certain mindset.

    1. It certainly explains their joylessness. The new Flagellants.

      1. Exactly. Puritans never stopped being Puritans. They’re just not Congregationalists anymore.

    2. My suspicion is that there is a huge segment of the population that abandoned traditional religion around that time but didn’t at all want to abandon superstition.

      Yes! That’s what a coincidence is! More specifically, what makes that time relevant? You can, throughout history, point to periods where people abandoned a/the formalized religion only to pick up their own new brand of regimented silliness.

      I’d say the not-eating-fat and eating clean/organic movements are much more related and equally fueled by a concept of abandoning religion for science.

      1. That probably describes it pretty well. The problem is that when government decides that some particular science is right, it isn’t very good at correcting later when new evidence comes up. Governmental inertia (and all the special interests that form around suck government policies) probably has a lot to do with how reluctant people are to change their minds about these things in light of good evidence.

    3. It’s like a religion in a lot of ways, but what strikes me is that it’s not just fanatical true believers who recycle and think fat is bad. It very quickly became deeply embedded in the culture and most people barely think about it.

  24. This study does not say eating saturated fat is healthy and good for you. Here’s what they compared the control diet to:

    Liquid corn oil was used in place of the usual hospital cooking fats (including hydrogenated oils) and was also added to numerous food items (for example, salad dressings, filled beef (lean ground beef with added oil), filled milk, and filled cheeses). Soft corn oil polyunsaturated margarine was used in place of butter.

    So it’s basically the same diet except they switched saturated fats with liquid corn oil. They compare two crappy diets and conclude one isn’t better than the other. What a surprise!

    1. It also seems like the people they did the study with were already likely to have problems–especially mental patients. Mental patients probably eat better in the hospital even if they ate nothing but things with saturated fat. We’re talking about a group of people with high rates of substance abuse, too. That such people tend to have higher rates of heart disease shouldn’t surprise anyone.

      At best, spreading them out equally into the vegetable oil group, the fatty oil group, and the control group would probably make everybody look worse than they are. At worst, the mental patients were put into the fatty oil group.

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